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[@DAngeloWallace]

yeah it takes a lot at this point for family channels to surprise me but they somehow managed that anyway i recorded this video a while back, hence the BOTW cosplay LOL if you want to be in my next video, come join tomorrow's stream: twitch.tv/dangelno

[@hadley20]

you are so cool

[@ez1zzy988]

#ily

[@nowah6183]

ty for uploading :)

[@kentocrush]

Cull

[@amazingamer360]

somehow the BOTW cosplay doesn’t get old

[@jennifer540]

“I couldn’t shove a camera in the child’s face. So I decided to simply not adopt them”

[@Kaybye555]

At least they even have the chance to take the kid back

[@nimeryaspawnbrd1049]

honestly, given the way they dealt with the family dog once he became too much effort, that kid dodged a massive bullet... 😒 and I genuinely pity their natural child. people like those two shouldn't be allowed near kids nor animals. also, screw the "no offense" that became mandatory after this kind of comment, I mean every word I wrote in the most harsh and offensive way possible

[@ac6155]

In a way, I’m glad they didn’t adopt because they just wanted them for clicks and profit off of “I-am-a-good-person” points

[@augustaseptemberova5664]

"I couldn't capitalize on the adoption (forget the kid). So I decided to not adopt."

[@jennifer540]

Look mom my comment went viral, I’m practically an influencer

[@imagitext1342]

"Then this is not what God wants for us." So it's more believable for you that God wants you to vlog your child than to adopt at the first opportunity possible?

[@Window4503]

God was definitely looking out for the Thai kid they were going to exploit. May he also protect the Korean kid!

[@MoahGentle]

If there was a God, hopefully his plan is to never allow these folks to have children, in any way.

[@lemonblesssed3753]

Right? And this girl has a tattoo of James 1:27 which talks about taking care of the orphans. I must have missed the part of the verse that says “unless you can’t vlog and exploit them to make money”

[@kcat44]

Christians like them use their belief in God to excuse all their terrible actions 🙄

[@JaneDoe-po4gu]

" God wants us to exploit vulnerable children for money "

[@cristian_i350]

As an adopted person, I would disgusted if someone just wanted to adopt me for views. And the fact that they didn't want to agree to a simple rule for a year is disturbing. The world is already messed up enough, no need to make it even more worse.

[@AngeliqueElijah]

They were literally like, "Oh I can't post our kid on social media for 1 year? F that orphan, we're influencers!"

[@Sakine-animate]

I think another reason they would have that year long rule would be from cases where adoptive babies are returned or harmed after the initial "reveal" of their adoption. Regardless if it was for views or not, keeping them out of social media for a year discourages fame grabbers from using them as a potential prop so only serious families will adopt, similar to buying a puppy for christmas then returning it when it gets big. Myka Stauffer (returned their special needs Chinese baby because he was too much of a challenge even though that's the adoption route she looked into) and baby Jung In (appeared on a tv show with her adopted parents, who then abused her for 10 months until she died).

[@GriffinZambia]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ7TYoVtm9eLjdk ...

[@talkingraccoon525]

another reason could be so that the biological family doesnt try and stalk them

[@MoahGentle]

@@talkingraccoon525 This

[@digitusmedius8258]

5:08 This screenshot sums up their entire marriage.

[@sarahhudson7108]

Hi there, someone who has seen the adoption process first hand! Not taking a pic of the kid is actually a pretty common rule. Also the process takes YEARS and is EXTREMELY expensive (however, money cannot go directly to the family giving up the child or it is considered trafficking/illegal). It is unfortunately very much a thing of privilege, but usually the wait is so that the agency can do background checks on the family, do surprise check-ins on the home, get recommendations for the adoptive family from friends/loved ones. One would hope the long process would lead to idiots like these guys getting booted, but with some agencies you never know. If you do it right, it is an arduous process that is so worth the wait and any necessary sacrifices. My little sister is my world and I can’t imagine my life without her. Shoutout Barker Adoption Agency:)

[@dena81]

I think it's the best common sense rule kind of wish all hospitals in the maternity war right away said nope no social media for any kids until they are old enough to decide for themselves

[@Themoment888]

Yeah I had family friends who were adopting 2 kids they had fostered for 5 years. They were reaching middle school age and I was getting nervous they wouldn't be able to keep them since they were technically only their foster parents. They had my parents speak on their behalf with some other friends and they were able to adopt them. It's been great ever since!

[@keesalemon]

How long does it take and how much does it cost? Did you adopt in the USA? Congratulations on your successful adoption 🥰

[@sarahhudson7108]

@@keesalemon thank you! And truly depends on each situation/country/family. We adopted from Central America, and the process took 3-ish years. Idk our adoption costs but the process can cost anywhere from $40,000-$60,000

[@dogearflopper7011]

D'Angelo out here dressed like the valedictorian of the Hylian Academy of Postal Workers

[@jadacoutee3779]

idk if u know this but your face and your videos brings me immense happiness 🙂

[@charlene9489]

The Dad Challenge Podcast does some great videos about the toxicity of family channels and the exploitation of children on YT. If that interests you, check out his channel! I'm glad other people like D'Angelo are also bringing attention to this.

[@jav8094]

Holy crap they really said “if we can’t profit off our adopted baby then we don’t want one ☺️”

[@keisha_james]

"exploiting our kids but putting an IG filter over it so it looks cute not illegal" THE ACCURACY.

[@GriffinZambia]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ7TYoVtm9eLjdk .

[@kelsynicole9135]

It’s technically not illegal on social media but it should be!! There are laws for child actors, there should be laws for kids on social media (even tho kids shouldn’t be on social media in the first place)

[@anoblesteed5685]

@@kelsynicole9135 I feel like KZbin should shut down family channels because filming kids 24/7 and exploiting them is unethical

[@kelsynicole9135]

@@anoblesteed5685 they won’t tho bc family channels are “ad friendly” 🙃

[@DropAndTop]

LOL THE VIDEO GOT SPONSORED BY MEEE

[@milorodriguez3739]

they talk like they're shopping for an exotic pet

[@slojoe6704]

ikr 🤢

[@calumbasilva868]

Mhmm

[@aliceanimals3768]

I wouldn't even talk about a pet like that

[@sushichomper]

Typical white savior complex, gross

[@soybeanjas]

EXACTLY!

[@Kakorrhaphiophobe]

That literally needs to be a law EVERYWHERE, if not being able to profit off of your adopted child is a deal-breaker for you... maybe you don’t deserve kids

[@angelabaird7135]

EXACTLY!! That rule is both genius and common sense. It showed it’s absolute effectiveness by ruling out these parents and preventing another Myka And James Stauffer incident. The fact that they did not adopt for that reason shows how prevalent it is for these family channels to do that. The rule worked perfectly and should be implemented in EVERY country!

[@seekittycat]

@Chocolate Stars Hell just make it so you have to tag everytime a child appears in a video and those videos get no ad revenue. Also it can't exceed a certain amount of time. So like casual videos of a kid on his b-day for relatives is fine. A daily video where parents force their kid to be actors for their parents profits can go hang.

[@Rain-np7tk]

@Chocolate Stars fair. If they cant watch normal youtube they shouldn't be filmed and monetized for youtube content

[@kjlandon9140]

@@angelabaird7135 reminds me of the horrific Hart family murders

[@interndoug2750]

Even if this does get passed you heard foster care they will just use that to profit

[@Whatlander]

Makes me think of how Grace and Ryosuke from "Texan in Tokyo" straight up left KZbin when they were about to have a child. It's been four years, and they haven't posted a thing since their goodbye videos explaining how they refuse to vlog with kids until they're old enough to give consent.

[@lizd.2343]

Honestly king vibes there

[@gateauxq4604]

Damn. Good for them, I hope they’re doing well.

[@sukiBambina]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 we need more of this energy

[@OguriShunLuver248]

Yes, and I loved them lol

[@OguriShunLuver248]

Something my Korean husband should have done lol

[@weeginboots9970]

That year long rule from Thailand is GENIUS, and needs to be rule/law everywhere... But also, how crazy is it that enough people over there recognized this would deter a certain type of person from adopting for the wrong reason.

[@heidibangbang]

Thailand's always had pretty serious child endangerment issues, so maybe their laws are finally starting to catch up.

[@sera6593]

Absolutely.

[@kale3504]

The way they talk about adopting a human child is like a kid trying to pick a toy that has the coolest look

[@GriffinZambia]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ7TYoVtm9eLjdk ...

[@samkeiser9776]

“Yeah, we aren’t adopting children from Thailand anymore.” “We would’ve *adopted a child* from Thailand but it’s too inconvenient for our vlog”

[@bioticjedi3864]

Probably because that's how they view him

[@kat74055]

the kid wanting a random cleaning supply because it’s purple and shiny

[@parkthepenguin6344]

@@GriffinZambia G o h o m e

[@LC-fh3ui]

Reminds me of the mommy vlogger that “rehomed” her “adopted son” (never just son) from China because he wasn’t the “quiet, sweet, shy” stereotype she wanted.

[@AmyAberrant]

These adoption agencies need a better vetting process. They can’t just be giving kids to people who discard them like last year’s fashion whenever they get bored.

[@riles3045]

myka stauffer i think?

[@OguriShunLuver248]

Yes and the agency lied about the problems he had and they weren’t ready for that

[@Mari-cb9tz]

Yep, I’m pretty sure she adopted a special needs’ child and people warned her about the difficulties she may face. So appalling

[@kc-eq4tk]

And bc they thought his autism would be easy to deal with

[@iwantpastries5649]

Can you imagine the audacity of being like "Hey guyssssss, we're not adopting a kid from Thailand because we can't film them for a year, soooo. NOPE!" Like God dang

[@samkeiser9776]

I mean, no need to imagine it.

[@Rayglisse]

the worst thing is, they did it 🤡

[@MoahGentle]

Shows their priorities, clearly.

[@JBC352]

And that wasn’t what cancelled them. Insane. I’m with D’Angelo, this couple is literally the best example of the hopelessness of humanity.

[@samkeiser9776]

@@JBC352 I feel like cancelation is so fickle, like there are so many people who deserve high scrutiny, but cancel culture really only ever goes after people who do something to set it off.

[@par9968]

As an adopted kid, I would’ve been so unbelievably upset that the people that were gonna adopt me decided to not because they wanted to exploit 6 year old me (that’s when I was adopted) but couldn’t. Absolutely disgusting

[@SpookyMingo]

that's a very reasonable response! i'm shocked they don't see that automatically. I'm so glad they have that rule to stop people like that, yikes!!!!

[@michaw.2168]

I wonder if they implemented this rule because off the stauffer's horror show... i got so angry seeing this. It's true people that are horrible to animals dont treat people right either. How can they think that's a way to treat a baby...

[@m.j.mbrooks1859]

I was adopted when I was almost two from Guatemala and was at the developmental stage of a six month old. Like the immense physical and emotional challenges that me and my family underwent, not to mention extensive physical and psychological therapy that I underwent for years post adoption to catch up to other children was beyond challenging. Like I would never want anyone to film the times where I would scream incessantly for hours on end if I was left alone in a room for half a second. My dad, no exaggeration, had to sleep on the floor next to my crib every night for over a year, holding my hand through the bars so that the rest of the household could get some sleep. And I have no memories of anything before adoption. Like there are pictures of me at the orphanage. But I don’t remember anything. I can’t even imagine the struggles a six year old that can remember things before adoption would go through to adjust to a completely new family. Or that there are people out there that would exploit those struggles for clout. It’s repulsive.

[@meowmeow3156]

I almost got adopted into a white savior family, I ended up getting kicked out after 3 years. My brothers weren't as lucky. Now they are looking for a young black boy to replace me.

[@monkiram]

Well if it's any consolation, it wouldn't have been a six-year-old because they said they only wanted a baby. That's another thing they made a big fuss about. After cycling through a bunch of countries, none of which worked out, they decided to switch to domestic adoption, which they realized was too expensive, and then to fostering because they were hoping to game the system and adopt that way. But the foster agency told them no because they can't guarantee they'd only get babies which they then made another angry video about, accusing the agency of lying to them

[@ritasprinkle5098]

Honestly, the dad is a creep. The way he stands there. The way that adopting from Korea "excites" him. Like... what is actually going on with him? I just kinda get the feeling it is more than a white savior complex.

[@nettoyagedelamaison9557]

He really is gross

[@Anon00113]

Watch he’s gonna wanna adopt a girl

[@Dani_1012]

@@Anon00113 Good god that better NOT happen

[@djsuperqueen1248]

He’s the one that was like well we will put down the dog like in that movie

[@ritasprinkle5098]

@@maydayjanette226 it wouldnt surprise me. But either way, it is not okay. No child should be in the same vincinity as him.

[@Emily-ui3sc]

they make the child sound so expendable. like, they dropped the kid as soon as they heard they couldn't film them. like, i'd think if you wanted to adopt a child you'd love them enough not to put them on the internet for a year. them not going through with it just proves they didn't adopt the child because they wanted another and loved them, they just wanted views

[@GlamGoddes101]

It’s insane when you think about it, they don’t want the baby enough to follow the law. It’s like for them the baby is just an asset to their KZbin channel/business

[@geolex4560]

LITERALLY like... obviously, i don't think family channels should exist PERIOD but wouldn't decent parents want to let their adopted child adjust to life with them before holding a camera in their face 24/7? like regardless of the law? one year is such a short amount of time in the grand scheme of things, but they literally only see dollar signs and want to parade their new kid around asap. it's 100% gross and wrong

[@emmainkeri7497]

exactly. this also comes off as so disrespectful to people who can't have kids or want to adopt but end up waiting years for their child but these people are ready to not have that kid because they can't get money off of it... And even if we preted filming your child online is okay, a year isn't even that long? unless you ofc wanted them for views in the first place...

[@morley364]

Also the fact they begged the government to allow them to film the kid when that rule is clearly set up TO PROTECT THE CHILD. It's like going to the government and begging to be allowed an exception to having to buckle in your kid or something! It just really highlights who they care about here.

[@v.958]

Hmm just like that poor dog was expendable

[@Moxilock]

Whenever chat hears "Being held hostage" they just start freaking out and that's fantastic. Let them suffer

[@GriffinZambia]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ7TYoVtm9eLjdk .

[@donteclarke9955]

@ARIANA'S NEIGHBOUR shut up bot

[@redvelvet1552]

@ARIANA'S NEIGHBOUR I’m just going to keep replying to these bots 🤖✨

[@koronteh807]

@ARIANA'S NEIGHBOUR shut up bitch

[@Qo0_0]

Summon

[@piper_says]

"it" is bad enough, but saying that "it" "wouldn't be theirs" for a year is REALLY telling, if you were serious about adoption that child would be YOUR child before you even bring them home

[@piper_says]

also why are they, like, country shopping when they could adopt a kid here

[@cinderellaskeleton6720]

I’m gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and say they meant it because they hadn’t decided what gender they wanted it to be yet. Just saying it is a lot easier than saying she/him all the time.

[@kai_fatallysapphic]

@@cinderellaskeleton6720 I mean, singular they/them pronouns exist.. there's really no need to use "it".

[@cinderellaskeleton6720]

@@kai_fatallysapphic that person is probably the kinda person who thinks they then pronouns are plural.

[@kai_fatallysapphic]

@@cinderellaskeleton6720 yeah, those two seem like the type :/

[@pyromaniacalmagpie3198]

I hope the kid they would have adopted is living a happy life with parents that really genuinely love them, with *privacy* and *autonomy* and *respect*

[@jamarsh09]

I hope the other adoption agency sees this and rejects them. No child should have to deal with this

[@christianmiguel6731]

Same

[@helloworld2784]

Yes.

[@OtterMunchy]

Kind thoughts, well said.

[@OtterMunchy]

@@jamarsh09 agreed

[@starilvara]

Them/the adoption agency: "Can you make an exception because their whole lives are online, it's their business?" The Thai government: "Okay but that's worse... You do get how that's worse, right?"

[@gandalfthegrey]

The US prevents foster parents from posting about their foster kids too. I only know this because my neighbors adopted a bunch of kids and couldn't post about any of them until they were officially adopted. Maybe I'm wrong but Thailand isn't alone in this rule.

[@nataliersutton]

You're totally right about that, at least in some states (might vary I'm not sure). I watched a few videos from a foster mother who specfically did not film, say the names of, or give info about her foster children. Only her biological and adopted children would appear in the videos. Once the foster children went throught the entire legal adoption process and it was finalized only then were the children introduced / names, etc.

[@green_goose1]

yep! at least with foster kids, if pictures are ever posted of them, they need to have a sticker/emoji/blur etc over their face for privacy concerns!

[@hamianagrande]

My brother

[@Komaedasympathizer]

Yep! As someone who was in foster care I wasn’t allowed to be posted about. I was in that foster home for two years.

[@m.j.mbrooks1859]

There are different levels of the openness of adoption too. It depends on the agency. My older brother’s birth mother was not allowed to contact him before he was 18. I think there was an obligation on our parents part to give her a photo update of what he looked like every couple of years, but she herself could not email him or call him on the phone, or post pictures of him online (although social media wasn’t hardly around back then) until he was 18. Our parents are very private people who have no social media’s to this day anyways, so it’s a non issue for them, but I think in part it has to do with what the openness of that adoption are. My adoption was international. But my birth mother chose not to leave her name, photo, letter, nothing. All I know is that she was 16, and that I was born three months early, and that there was a lot of blood. Nothing more, nothing less.

[@robinmitchells]

IMO, if you “accidentally” Snapchat while signing an NDA, that’s social media addiction at that point and you need an intervention stat.

[@blueismylove3128]

I've chosen to go full days without my phone, but these people can't sign an NDA without pulling up Snapchat? Wtf is this world? Is this who we've become?

[@angelabaird7135]

Exactly! They are both grade A douche bags and I’m so glad they were prevented from adopting so we don’t have another Myka Stauffer incident. All countries should have that rule to prevent those who are adopting for the purpose of exploiting the child.

[@vubzs]

Exactly. That's a straight up social media addiction... I go days without going to Instagram, if ur doing something important why would you go on your phone LMFAO???

[@Nuti196]

I would feel SO GOOD walking up to her and her husband, taking their phones, smashing them on the ground and watching them suffer... I guess I would get arrested for that but totally worth it

[@avocado3-in-182]

@@blueismylove3128 i can’t live without my phone but I am not this stupid enough to pull out my phone and take a picture of confidential documents. That woman is a crazy Karen.

[@kalaturru]

watching this made me realize that in 20 years there could be a whole lot of people suing their "parents" for exploitation because of these family channels

[@GotInterest]

probably a lot sooner than that. Family vlogging started being a thing in the early 2010's. Some of the kids from those early family vloggers are teens now and will be adults in a few years. I've already seen articles written about tween and teen children begging their parents to stop putting their whole business online.

[@GummyDinosaursify]

Good. I hope they get every penny.

[@galaxyocicat5660]

Thought unfortunately that would mean the harm has been already done, at least they get to sue them as adults.

[@studybuddy.]

Can’t wait for the groundbreaking first case

[@SaphireXari]

I wonder if there is already some precedence for this, such as a child actor whose parents pushed them into the industry and took advantage of them and their finances.

[@easternflower6476]

As someone with adopted sisters from Guangzhou China, this is so hurtful to me- the country of origin is such an important part of an adopted child’s identity. I could never imagine discounting any country or any child for SOCIAL MEDIA REASONS. My sisters are my sisters, I could not imagine life without them for any reason, let alone something as dumb as that.

[@Ilikefrogs..]

Just curious, are your sisters twins? Or did your parents adopt them separately?

[@easternflower6476]

They are twins- they were born during the 1 child policy, and their birth mother (we refer to their birth parents as their angels) couldn’t bear to separate them, so she left them where somebody would see them and put them up for adoption. They are the best sisters anyone could ask for, smart and kind

[@beccag2758]

Also Chinese adoptee and same. Even the thought of adopting for social media presence has never crossed my mind. Honestly typing “adopting for social media presence” makes me feel gross

[@easternflower6476]

Right?? So gross that these people see children as influencer boosters rather than actual humans. Such a crazy idea that I cannot wrap my brain around.

[@parkthepenguin6344]

Ok this is heart warming. I hope my siblings have the same mindset as you :)

[@Sydney_head]

The cosplay fund was one of the best things to ever happen

[@GriffinZambia]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ7TYoVtm9eLjdk .

[@redvelvet1552]

@ARIANA'S NEIGHBOUR damn I wonder how many times you’ve commented this lmao 💀

[@GriffinZambia]

@@redvelvet1552 baby

[@Sigmaskycasino]

@@redvelvet1552 Same lmao💀

[@Sigmaskycasino]

@ARIANA'S NEIGHBOUR Girl-💀

[@kt_jpg]

As an adopted child from China this is so disgusting. They are acting like they are adopting a puppy that can be pranced around on their channel for clicks and ignored when its not making them money Edit: Not advocating for maltreatment of animals whatsoever but ppl on the internet always assume the worst of everything

[@tired690]

@@rosalinahope9752 I'm also an adopted asian from china and I'm furious at these people. They're vile and why I've started to advocate for no international adoptions of asian children tbh

[@josselinsalgado2951]

What that’s not ok to do to puppies either.

[@lj9392]

@@josselinsalgado2951 they killed their dog, they're kinda past that point

[@wmdkitty]

As an adoptee (white, American), I don't have words for the emotion I'm feeling rn. It's like a combination of anger, confusion, and horror.

[@feelingevaporated2912]

@@josselinsalgado2951 it’s a lot better than doing it to a human…

[@melwarat5766]

The minute she realizes she can't exploit her kid for views and money, she decides she doesn't want them. It's disgusting. Kids aren't accessories or business assets, they're people with feelings

[@BeanKally]

As a kid, I can confirm we are are actually sentient Shocking, ik

[@cap4life1]

*she and he. They both were going to exploit the child.

[@moneekaayrenae]

“This is not what God has for us”... is that what she said? Oooof. No. This is not what the law has for you. They literally just want things in life they can exploit.

[@mammoneymelon]

i don't think God would be a fan of them exploiting children and the entire adoption system but?? they can go off ig

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

I don't pretend to be a Bible or theology expert, but I don't remember exploiting your kid for fame being part of God's message.

[@Noumm]

Yes implying religion for your bad behaviour LMAO

[@notthatcreativewithnames]

Here's a fact, not sure if it adds anything, the major religion in Thailand is Buddhism, which is less theistic than Christianity or Islam.

[@Moszan]

That sounds about right. If anyone reads the Bible, there's a ton of horrific shit done to children in the name of God.

[@MiaFa_x]

As an international trans-racial adoptee (east Asian in a white family), the fact she couldn't document and exploit the adoptive process was *such* a deal breaker, to me just screams white saviour complex and ignorance. My personal viewpoint as an adoptee is that people like them should not be able to adopt, and her video about it honestly hurt to watch.

[@nalad9387]

its funny because she could have still exploited the process. there's a ton of videos she could've made w/o showing her baby for a year, and then she could've did a big reveal after a year's worth of build up. they just feel so entitled to being able to do whatever they want

[@KateGrealy1]

100%

[@amyg8176]

They didn’t just want an Asian child, either!! They wanted a child with special needs!!!

[@amy_kunoichi]

the moment when these people can adopt but me a transbian can not

[@magice3494]

@@amy_kunoichi much sadge, transbians poggers (if by that you mean trans lesbians, never heard of the term like that but still pog as a trans person myself)

[@AdubsVA]

Aww shit D’Angelo is talking about whatever he wants

[@AammaK]

boost

[@AdubsVA]

@ARIANA'S NEIGHBOUR aye lemme boost this then fr. I hope you get your mic ❤️

[@GriffinZambia]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ7TYoVtm9eLjdk .

[@GriffinZambia]

@@AdubsVA lol no

[@sludgebones]

@AdubsVA its a comment bot, don't sub

[@cedarmay4245]

I've said this before but I'm worried for when their child doesn't want to be filmed anymore and also the mental toll of having your entire life on the internet. The lack of privacy is sad and dangerous and they did that to him.

[@angelabaird7135]

I hope one of these family vloggers children grow up and sue the parents claiming punitive damages and maybe lost job opportunities or something if they are declined any position for having their whole life public without permission. And I hope they sue them for millions of dollars and it makes these exploitive families think twice. If KZbin and the law itself isn’t gonna put a stop to it,then that sort of thing is the only kind of justice or chance to slow or stop these things.

[@bwicket]

I watched a video once where one of the stories discussed was of a girl who bought herself a hoodie that she printed "I do not consent to being photographed" and "I do not consent to being videod" all over it so her blogging mom couldn't use any of the content she wore it in. Brilliant, but also pretty sad. At some point most kids don't want it.

[@Noumm]

Yeeaah I did say in my comment that this process already happen is some social medias, the poor future child that did not have a righ to say "no I don't or yes I want".

[@PlasticDoll.]

@@angelabaird7135 I could see it happen sometime in the future, eventually. After all there has to be a reaction somewhere out of all this..

[@crazyowlgirlcncowner]

@@bwicket I saw that one in one of SimplyNailogial's podcasts. It's so sad that the girl even had to do that.

[@CarpeDM27]

I am predicting if they do adopt from Korea, the kid will have the same name as somebody from BTS. "Korea excited me" yeah, I'll bet it did, you vulture.

[@Hip.Username]

Honestly those Thai babies dodged a bullet here. They would be dealing with transratial struggles being raised by parents from a completely different culture anyway, but on top of that being a hot topic on KZbin, and possibly being rehomed like a pet like that other blogger family did to their adopted child with autism. Thank you Thailand for protecting the children from people like this

[@GriffinZambia]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ7TYoVtm9eLjdk ...

[@samkeiser9776]

I Guess Thailand’s policy is doing what it’s supposed to.

[@frida507]

Most of all they were saved from these idiots.

[@anshi5098]

god bless Thailand for this rule.

[@isaiahchang2295]

Ok but the transracial thing? 100 thousand percent true. I was adopted into a white/asian family and growing up here was hell.

[@daviedarling]

adoptive parents can be extremely extremely toxic and abusive to their kids, almost fetishizing their ability to "save" someone and/or their child's ethnicity or country of origin like the husband here and it doesn't get talked about enough!!

[@cdevine9459]

The fact that loser parents like this couple are able to adopt when so many couples are out there trying to adopt a child because they literally are unable to have children.

[@frankie9772]

I think we can all agree that children’s privacy is incredibly neglected on social media at this moment.

[@seiiiiiirrrrrrr]

Children have no rights 😓

[@soupcorvus7451]

as a korean kid, them going “and we found out we could get a baby from korea that’s so exciting!!” made me just about throw up in my mouth, we are not some sort of decorations for white people to feature in their lives just because they think we’re all a certain way, that’s so gross

[@nono-hl2hi]

it's genuinely kinda scary how much poc are commodified, objectified and dehumanised by most white people,,,, they don't see us as humans

[@rainbowrose2048]

there is a huge difference between “we just found out we could adopt a baby!” and “we just found out we could adopt a baby from *insert place*!”

[@Bottomsupyours]

Yeah, that legit was the grossest part of the video. It had "I'm adding a Korean to my baby collection" vibes.

[@Anna-zx9xj]

The idea of picking a country where you want to get your baby from is just kind of gross in general. It's very tokenizing.

[@beaniepanini]

I don't even understand the mental process behind these people at all. Its just absolutely idiotic they treat a child like this.

[@hanna-ep2lb]

they treated their poor potential child as a business asset. i'm genuinely disgusted. i really hope they won't ever be able to adopt any child because no child should go through this :(

[@PumaArg]

Nope...they had one of their own, which might be even worse

[@hb7580]

It has very much child trafficking vibes. A LOT of these agencies and organizations need to be investigated.

[@parkthepenguin6344]

@@PumaArg Lowkey glad they didn’t adopt. Being treated like shit by two families messes you up. :|

[@AmyAberrant]

That child dodged a bullet

[@alexia3552]

The look on his face when he was like "we'll have a child in our house for a whole year and it's not even our child" like... holy shit? you're THAT disgusted at the thought of taking care of another human being? Please do not adopt, I hope they get blocked

[@leighallison4297]

The government: “So we like to give the children who are adopted privacy” These people: 👁👄👁

[@blueismylove3128]

Privacy? Never heard of her....

[@badlilthang2]

@@blueismylove3128 must be a soap brand or some shit

[@blueismylove3128]

@@badlilthang2 I think you might be right.

[@leighallison4297]

@@badlilthang2 That’s probably why they have never heard of it.

[@shalomakolatse537]

@@leighallison4297 DAAANG

[@uhh9919]

adopting a korean kid isnt weird obviously but being excited thinking “i want to adopt a kid from korea SPECIFICALLY” is ... uh .... not the best look. its like they just want their family to look more ethnic or use them as an aesthetic lmao

[@cdevine9459]

They act like they’re picking out a breed of puppy. Disgusting.

[@tiggzr9744]

Are you going to do a video denouncing Shannon creepshow

[@senselesslibraa]

the fact that their reaction wasn’t ‘okay that’s fine my child deserves privacy’ is so scary

[@chrissy3875]

like they realise they could still have a channel and just not create content w the baby.... its to messed up. they only had to wait a year

[@ritasprinkle5098]

Yeah, it is scary. And really sad.

[@nicolemeneses3323]

People who actually want kids, who wanna care for them and help them, would do whatever it takes to be with them. I've seen people wait up to 3 years until the adoption is finalized, without complaining and with hope to have the kids

[@blondesense1708]

In my country there is an 11 year waiting list to adopt and I have seen friends do the wait. My Auntie and her wife did end of life foster care - which is exactly what it sounds like, fostering terminally ill kids in foster care because they were so dedicated to their work. Over the years they had several children pass away in their care. That is true desire to be a parent.

[@nicolemeneses3323]

@@blondesense1708 Your auntie and her wife sound like amazing people, i hope they have a great life 🥺

[@unerevuese]

This is why Thailand has these types of laws protecting adoptees because of these people!

[@chantalkellyman2187]

She takes white privilege to a whole other level. Like "Oh government with your laws can you make an exception for me, I mean I really want to do this unnecessary thing"

[@lachlanmclennan2188]

Wouldn't it be a privilege if she got what she wanted

[@madhusree1472]

@@lachlanmclennan2188 the fact that she feels entitled is 💀💀

[@lachlanmclennan2188]

@@madhusree1472 fair enough

[@FortuitousOwl]

“We decided to cancel an adoption because we won’t be able to monetize it and that’s clearly the only reason we are adopting” also…there are SO MANY kids in America that need adopting. It seems like they are shopping for a cute foreign kid rather than actually looking for a child.

[@Purpleturtlehurtler]

Right? My fiancee and I don't want to have our own biological children, but the idea of adoption when we have a house and are married has been floated, but we self-doubt about our qualifications for being parents. We both had pretty shitty upbringings and we don't want to project the kinds of things our parents put on us onto our own future kids.

[@frida507]

Exactly. Shopping for a kid to make content. They should be blacklisted at all adoption agencies.

[@bioticjedi3864]

Ikr, they act like domestic adoption isn't a thing and here are tons of non-white kids in the US that need a home, it would probably be better on the child cuz the culture and language shock is minimized

[@Rayglisse]

great translation. this is ridiculous

[@PumaArg]

and the fact that they proceeded to have one of their own only makes you think that more...

[@beccag2758]

Chinese adoptee here. If you’re reading this, please know that basically all normal people do NOT adopt out of a desire for followers, but an actual desire for children. Also *PLEASE* be careful throwing around the white savior label when discussing adoption. While there are rare cases where this is applicable, this is just not true for an overwhelming majority of adoptee parents so please do not make this the new negative stereotype. For years I’ve seen many people treat adoption as like, a gross failure of parenthood, we do not need another fake and negative stereotype that keeps potential parents from considering adopting and plants worry and doubt into adopted kids’ heads.

[@1ceapaire990]

Hey! I recognize you from the Blimey Cow comments section!

[@cinderellaskeleton6720]

@i did you just gloss over that POC will bully other POC if they don’t share the same culture as they do

[@m.j.mbrooks1859]

@i which is really sad, because my parents always made sure that I learn anything and everything about Guatemala, I mean I had all sorts of books, they kept all my outfits, I mean I still have a doll that my mom got that had my same skin and hair color, (which I mean, back then I didn’t think anything of the time) but you know the fact that they didn’t just “white wash” me and just give me a blonde haired blue eyed baby doll means a lot. Like they made sure I grew up aware, and proud of being from Guatemala, but I also never felt self conscious being the only Latina in a whole family of white people. Like I was Maria their daughter, cousin, granddaughter. Like the color of my skin did not make me any less nor was it something to be ashamed of. God knows being adopted didn’t get me special treatment 🤣 like “Yes you are adopted. You still have to eat your vegetables and finish your homework.” Like questions from non adopted children were interesting.

[@apocalypseready6256]

They literally say “it’s going to be living in our house for a year.” Not just the “it” part unsettles me, but they act like the child is a roommate or a freeloader and not, y’know, their _child_ Like the 6-year-old would have to earn their wages to live in these generous people’s house. They distinctly said “our” house, like they’re already distancing themselves from being the parents of this adopted kid. Not “our kid is going to live with us a year early!! Yay!” Is that not the most messed up, unsettling thing you’ve ever heard? Ugh.

[@sweethysteria8737]

well... my dad says that kids basically are freeloaders and that if kids could work they should. My dad says kids are basically property and they should do whatever they want with their kid.

[@taiy5296]

@@sweethysteria8737 sweetheart are you okay? 😦

[@GreySeashell-j3m]

@@sweethysteria8737 that's not a dad

[@tolslog6101]

They're literally the worst kind of stupid family setup

[@sweethysteria8737]

@@rahulpaul4355 uh... The USA

[@NiteLights]

As an adopted kid, this makes me very happy to see that they were stopped/deterred by this. I couldn't imagine my entire life just put out on the internet for everyone to see. This case reminds me of the Myka Stauffer one with the kid she had to "re-home."

[@i.am.heather]

Look up “crazy pieces” and “crazy middles” .... almost all adopted kids, parents exploiting their adoptive children’s stories. It’s disgusting.

[@GriffinZambia]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ7TYoVtm9eLjdk ...

[@man-wv8xj]

i can’t imagine being an orphaned child and when someone finally gives me a new family is a vlogging family. that sounds like the cruelest fate

[@isaiahchang2295]

Agreed (also adopted)

[@ttjust2011]

As a person who was born and raised in Thailand, that Thai law is the best law ever that I heard from the Thai government.

[@moniqueloomis9772]

Amen.

[@calielizabeth4714]

Nikki put out a video where she was talking about covid 19 and literally said “people who supposedly died” and talked about not trusting science so...that’s the kind of person she is.

[@samkeiser9776]

Privilege is one hell of a drug.

[@nafeesahtynetta]

🤢

[@galaxyocicat5660]

Gross

[@me9981]

Lmao he really wants to SAVE a kid from Korea... He should travel more. He should visit South Korea and see that South Korea isn't the same country it was 60 years ago. Dude, there are so many kids in the US that are waiting for adoption, but people like these are going to Asia or Africa for some reason to be some kind of saviors... Give me a break.

[@jamesmason7979]

"No one should be allowed to put their child in a vlog ever." Amen!

[@KateGrealy1]

Absolutely

[@pinkqueenscookie]

Why? We tell our kids what to eat, how to dress, when to sleep, where they live, everything. Filming is up to the parent. But they should keep in mind not filming their child upset, that’s not right or children who are saying no about the camera. But again their choice. Children don’t have many choices until 18.

[@lazyperfectionist3978]

@@pinkqueenscookie - because the stuff you listed is expected of you as a parent and not doing so is considered neglect. Filming your kid to put online publically for 'cute content' and basically money as youtube family vlogs are basically employment for some families is child exploitation

[@pinkqueenscookie]

@@lazyperfectionist3978 Yes but they don’t get to choose. That’s my point. Your parents can force you to be vegan, carnivore. You can hate green and that’s what you wear. I get what you’re saying, I don’t really watch those family channels but that money is benefiting their kid too 🤷🏽‍♀️ Is it child exploitation to put your kid in ballet in hopes they’ll be a professional? Pageant kids can be scary too.... I don’t think it’s a big deal if they are treating their child with respect. And if a child ever doesn’t want to be filmed they don’t. But just my opinion.

[@asmi14]

@@pinkqueenscookie because they are exploiting their child for money

[@mamafett6320]

They were like: "OH NO! MY CLOUT!!!!" Then they were like "It's not in god's will" over it 😂😂😂 "We wanted a non-white kid for views" 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺👉👈

[@AmelieAnthrax]

Asian kids are in this season 🥺🥺🥺✨✨✨❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@khaki9337]

are you gonna say anything abut the creepshow art allegations?

[@user-vy3rj9vc4q]

i hope he does

[@Fancy-e4z]

He said he doesn't want to.

[@user-vy3rj9vc4q]

@@Fancy-e4z oh my bad, i didn't know, thanks !

[@khaki9337]

@@Fancy-e4z Oh okay.

[@corvideer1738]

The year-long social media delay was policy for my little adopted brother, and my parents literally had no issue outside of having to remind his daycare provider not to post a picture of him. Once the year period was over, we had a celebration and took some nice photos with him and made a social media announcement. They could take as many pics and vids as they want, just not post them on social media. It's literally that easy

[@lemonblesssed3753]

It’s soooo easy to abide by unless you’re literally trying to exploit them. I’m a foster and adoptive mom and I cannot post them while in care but I rarely post them after adoption either because I feel like it’s not right to without their consent.

[@averyeml]

I’m assuming this is why so many people I know who foster and adopt or the charities I follow on Facebook about fostering and adopting cover the children’s faces in 90% of the pictures. That plus the whole “we’re fostering a kid who may have family that shouldn’t know where they are” kind of thing. It isn’t hard. Even if they did post pictures of something in the house where the kid happens to be in the background, they just stick an emoji over the kid or something.

[@aaaallleex]

“Oh my gosh! We could adopt a K-Pop baby!”

[@grethi8110]

lmao😭

[@galaxyocicat5660]

This made me laugh and feel sad at the same time

[@catherinemenardmonast8970]

Don't give ideas to Koreaboos and Loli LongDumb

[@ladytopaz6358]

@@catherinemenardmonast8970 what the hell is a Loli LongDumb?!

[@erikapavedtheway]

@@ladytopaz6358 Oli London sjshjs

[@aspendraws6173]

Shannon situation?

[@nicoanderson428]

i was adopted through Holt International, and I am also from South Korea. This couple makes me feel sick, I too was adopted into an all white family, and my biggest fear is that the only reason I was adopted was for the "aesthetic" of having a mixed family. They should 1. understand there are more reasons behind why the child cannot be filmed 2. simply respect that guideline for one year and 3. stop acting as if them adopting ONE international child is saving them all. Theres hundreds of thousands Domestic Adoption agencies available.

[@thepeacefulbuddah]

Nico, What makes you think that you were adopted only for your race, How did that thought arise? Did your parents do anything to make you feel that way

[@ladycaticorn2950]

I'm so sorry if your adoptive family has made you feel tokenized in any way. I cannot speak for them, but as someone who wants to adopt (either domestically or internationally), I value giving a home to a child in need regardless of race. If I happen to have a transracial family, awesome. I think some people go into adoption with selfish intentions but many adopters are not like the Phillipis and just want to give a home to a child(ren) in need.

[@paradox9369]

Watch out, don't let that fear turn into resentment for people who have given you a home. Talk to them

[@saraa1741]

I hope that your family treats you well, and you feel loved. Don't let these fools make you feel that all families are like them. Sending you much love.

[@beccag2758]

I’m truly sorry you have that fear. Personally I’ve never felt that way (I was adopted from China) so I can’t imagine how hard it must be to have that worry in the back of your mind. I would encourage trying to talk to someone about this. It doesn’t have to be your parents if you don’t feel comfortable with asking them about it yet, but please talk with someone so you don’t have to deal with this anxiety alone.

[@keeweebir]

Family channels seem so detrimental to children. Like, so many of the kids on family channels are so young, they can’t consent to having recordings of themselves posted on the internet and their parents can blab about their kids’ feelings, thoughts, etc that they trust them with- just so many violations of privacy.

[@seekittycat]

Honestly I get chills to thinking of those kids in middle school. Just hours and hours of embarrassing footage online. Everyone in school who knows their name can find it with a click of a button.

[@NoName-dx1no]

Even child actors and actresses have to have regulations but KZbin? The kid is shown to millions on a daily basis and there’s no limit on age or how much money they should be getting. Not that being a child actor is the safest thing to do but at least they have some regulations

[@hamishstewart5324]

I would rather be the offspring of a Komodo dragon than the child of a family vlogger.

[@aeriellee3067]

WHEN THAT MAN SAID "Korea excited me the most" I REALIZED THE REASON WHY, IS BECAUSE OF THE UPTICK IN POPULARITY OF KPOP IN THE US, AND THEY WERE GONNA MARKET THAT BABY'S ETHNICITY AS BEING COOL AND HIP, FOR THEIR FUCKIN VIEWERRRSSS

[@GriffinZambia]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ7TYoVtm9eLjdk ...

[@arriibacon531]

Damnnn exploiting her child even more and just because the baby is Korean 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

[@kimwhitehead9096]

Korea excited them because it has far less restrictive adoption laws.

[@aeriellee3067]

@@kimwhitehead9096 oooooh, damn that HORRIBLE

[@aeriellee3067]

@@GriffinZambia hey, this is good!

[@floofzykitty5072]

This has major Myka Stauffer vibes with how she adopted a special needs child then sent them away because she didn't realise that special needs children actually have special needs.

[@peyton1817]

They actually have some ties & have met up (since they’ make the same “genre” of video). I remember Nikki posting a video about the Stauffer family adoption situation, trying to separate herself. Disgusting behavior.

[@PumaArg]

I remember watching that and finding it very...remarkable how they thought "what if he hurts my children?" about the adopted child in a way that made it seem like they thought he was an intruder and not one of their own children. I personally think no one, NO ONE, who doesn't view their adopted child as if they had come out of their own fucking womb should adopt

[@hannahcroft3630]

when they forget that the “clout” also comes with a fuckton of dedication/responsibility

[@LolitaAngel6]

Not to mention Myka expected that poor kid to die in a few years so she and her awful husband would just get pity and not have to take care of the child anymore.

[@fiat5242]

I'm so mad, as an asian i just wanna say that asian people aren't decorations for them to display and adopt just for "aesthetic" purposes

[@nimbusstormysheep9553]

As a white American I completely agree. It's disgusting how people treat each other like objects just for being different.

[@burn3627]

As a white European, we know. Literally everyone knows this. You don’t need to explain that or disclaim your ethnicity. This is some random foreign family in the US, most US people know this is weird too. There’s stupid people in every country and region. Including your own.

[@lillyofthenorth8798]

"I hate that we can't share the adoption on social media.. We are just...SOOOOO uninteresting on our own, I mean, what else are we supposed to talk about?!"

[@GriffinZambia]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ7TYoVtm9eLjdk ...

[@boppop8703]

There’s drama in the art community again 🤡!!! Look up ‘creepshow art drama’ its abt a bully stalking their victim for like a decade

[@piguu7226]

And apparently D'Angelo is friends with Shannon. Big yikes, hope he's not biased this time unlike the previous situation involving Peaches.

[@piguu7226]

@@bpbeep6526 Yea I think they were sort of "creator friends" back when the drama happened. He's still a featured creator on CSA's channel. D'Angelo probably has distanced himself overtime.

[@swagatthedisco1789]

This child most likely needed a home, and they refused to take the kid in just because they couldn't post about it. These people suck.

[@GriffinZambia]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ7TYoVtm9eLjdk .

[@blueismylove3128]

I mean, it's not "most likely" if they are up for adoption, but do we really want these people having more kids anyway?

[@vubzs]

Its so gross thinking about it. Yes I grew up in an era where social media wasn't really a thing for my mom, but I couldn't imagine having a camera shoved in my face when I was a child and having me be online everywhere as a child. Its gross that they cant even go without a year of not posting their kid on social media.

[@jollybear_wastaken]

I really hope that kid was given a home. Every child deserves a home but not every home deserves a child

[@you_when_u_eat_paint_dust4428]

Atleast the kid didn’t end up with them. They don’t deserve children.

[@compassionate234]

make a vid about creepshow art plssss

[@Floviah]

So this family would rather shove a camera in their child’s face regardless of their mental health, than (God forbid) adopt a child in need. All I see is selfishness smh 🤦‍♀️

[@madhusree1472]

Getting excited about a Korean child is like one of those people who get excited about adopting a certain breed of animal.....only a hundred times worse

[@samkeiser9776]

It’s like they think the children will stay babies forever. Like they seems like they have no recognition that they are signing up to raise another human person.

[@shimmi285]

I hate people who adopt children to 'save' them, you adopt because you *want* children, not because you want to 'save' them.

[@celester.812]

Plus they said “make an exception” because it’s “their business” soooo… they want their adopted child to work for them ??? The second they adopt them????

[@CJMGalaxy]

Yeah, the Thai government was probably like "of course we won't make an exception, this rule applies doubly for you". If the reason you ask for an exception is "but our business model is child exploitation!", how do you think they're gonna ok that?

[@keesalemon]

This comment needs more upvotes, you are 100% correct, its awful

[@one_smol_duck]

I get that these parents are stupid, but it really concerns me that the adoption agency thought it was appropriate to ask for an exception like that. I'm kind of hoping that they actually lied to the parents about asking for an exception, just to placate them....

[@aestheticcc]

These white Americans literally think the world revolves around them and their needs 😂

[@queenannesrevenge1437]

The absolute audacity! Like could you change your NATIONAL LEGISLATION for me? 🙄🥴

[@DarkShadic9632]

This implies that there’s a *best* children’s KZbin channel.

[@Bast-hs5sz]

i mean... statistically, there has to be one

[@DarkShadic9632]

Bast6415 *I refuse that truth*

[@syd_barrett_lmfao]

D’Angelo is the best family channel

[@DanTheHuman]

Yeah it's so weird to see my cousins watching these people

[@GriffinZambia]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ7TYoVtm9eLjdk .

[@masterfulmoonlighter5402]

Can you please talk about Creepshow Art? She's done some shitty things and you were/are acquainted with her

[@gofarbehappy]

*they are/were acquainted with each other. we don't know anything about their friendship status, and it's important to make that distinction for the sake of accuracy and sensitivity, as she targeted him as well as others.

[@masterfulmoonlighter5402]

@@gofarbehappy You're right, thank you for correcting me!

[@PV-wi5jq]

What happened

[@dawncrime3121]

Im so happy this rule exist to protect adopted children from parents who just want to exploit them. Like any kind hearted person doing it for the right reasons understands and would agree with these rules. It should be hard to adopt a child. Its a human being, not an animal.

[@mohammedal-barkawi4200]

Are you gonna make a video about the creep show art situation

[@Ihavepinkeye]

Why does this remind me of when Michael Scott wanted to adopt a baby and found out there was a wait list and said what if I don’t want a baby by then

[@Anr1231]

😂

[@qualek7862]

Thats exactly the right comparaison

[@angelinemaria4936]

Wait what- I didn't know that...

[@cmk1295]

They’re just as stupid as Michael Scott but they have no soul or compassion so they’re worse.

[@niftythegoblin]

@@cmk1295 and also they're real people. At least Michael Scott is a fictional character.

[@roseta5017]

When they said the child won’t even be theirs since it takes a year for the adoption to be finalized....... you can tell they won’t ever truly love any child. You don’t need official papers to love a child as your own 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@lelaweber47]

And this ladies and gentlemen is what we call: the white savior complex (Adoption edition)!

[@israelmills7442]

And this ladies and gentlemen is what we call Race baiting ( American edition ) Because it literally only happens in America

[@lelaweber47]

@@israelmills7442 explain

[@phoebejanemiller1671]

Nikki: "I guess it just wasn't God's plan for us to adopt a kid we couldn't exploit" God: "Don't bring ME into this smh"

[@bicxhjohnson4425]

Another thing too like I’ve grown up with adopted siblings and like when they were younger NOTHING was allowed on social media or even websites with their pictures all due to the fact that a lot of kids that are in these adoption centres come from families where the parents are obsessive and will try to track down the kids or pick them up from school if they find out their location. Scary stuff but like all things considered like how is this a surprise for them??

[@GotInterest]

It actually deeply concerns me that there are that many children up for adoption whose bio parents actually wanted to raise them? Just knowing the history of how child protective services in many countries have a bias against lower class people and racial minorities. I've heard too many horror stories of children being taken from loving homes and adopted out because CPS found arbitrary reasons to take kids away. It's a big problem currently in the US with US born children of undocumented immigrants, for example. In Canada, First Nations people also have their children taken away from them at a disproportionate rate as another example. I mean sure, some of those parents probably did need to have their children taken away from them, but I wouldn't be shocked if a decent amount of them were "obsessed" with getting their children back because they loved their kids and had their family unfairly separated.

[@madisonwillis9591]

@@GotInterest usually, from what I've seen all my life in the rural south-eastern US, the parents feel they did nothing wrong by shooting up heroin around their 2, 6, and 12 year old and want them back despite not fixing their own issues, or it's a control thing. My friend in HS in foster care had a mom who wanted them back to further abuse and was actively trying to get them back to do that.

[@GummyDinosaursify]

@@GotInterest Maybe in other countries but US laws are so garbage when it comes to the protection of the child. CPS loves to just show up and be like "Everything seems fine here" while there's a loaded gun on the table next to a bowl of pills. But at the same time, they will question a parent if a child breaks their arm bike riding. They're not exactly the best agency in the US.

[@saltydinonuggies1841]

@@GummyDinosaursify yep. I was just about to add that. Cps doesnt do shit when the kids are actually in danger but take them from loving homes for stupid reasons

[@plaguedoctorpal]

@@madisonwillis9591 I work for a company that helps people with developmental and mental disabilities and I cannot agree with you more. CPS in America doesn't do ANYTHING to help kids in need. We have constant reports of children/adults being horribly mistreated by their guardians. My supervisor has to BEG CPS to even look at the paperwork and most of the time, CPS won't do anything. I've heard horror stories of CPS walking into the living room, saying it looks fine and leaving yet one room over would have literally been all the evidence they needed.

[@thecloverpatch631]

The hubris of these people is stunning. Actually thinking that the Thai government would make an exception for their youtube channel?? That's the epitome of entitled.

[@Samson16436]

Delusional

[@DropAndTop]

SPONSORED BY MY CHANNEL , DROP LOL

[@ac6155]

Basically “well we have a followers on KZbin and i need this child to make more money, can you make an exception for me? 😋✌️ “

[@GriffinZambia]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ7TYoVtm9eLjdk ...

[@barbexotic8585]

Hey D’Angelo will you address the Creepshow situation?

[@MayaBlevins]

As an adoptee, if I'm in a group conversation or about to hear someone talk about adoption, I bite my tongue preemptively. People don't know how to think about, or talk about adoption. I've heard some pretty cringey things said, like, 'as a social worker, I know that if you adopt a child, you have to get a specialized therapy program from the beginning, those kids come with so much trauma and if they don't get the help they need they will end up really, really damaged.' This was at a dinner party. More than anything, it is painful to watch how some people are attracted to the idea of adoption for meaningless reasons without any regard to the actual responsibility and meaning of adopting a child. To be honest, the fact any human can raise a child at all is astonishing.

[@averyeml]

Any time I’ve brought up my potential interest in adopting and/or fostering in my future my mom never ceases to talk about how scary that is because “every single one of those kids could be messed up and you never know” because she knows someone who was nearly stabbed to death by the 6 year old they adopted but happened to wake up as he walked in the bedroom to do it. She mentions it every time no matter who we are around or where we are and I just... can’t.

[@TheLastHylianTitan]

How would YOU want people to talk about adoption? Like, what would you want people to know or be more aware of or sensitive to?

[@MayaBlevins]

​@@TheLastHylianTitan This is a great question. For starters, I think adoption deserves to be destigmatized and regarded with more respect. To ever say another person is, or will be, 'damaged' is just wrong. Bottom line. It's socially irresponsible to frame an actionable challenge (which we all have. And for the most part, we are discouraged from viewing ourselves as Damaged) as some implicit disability. I have a lot of friends who were adopted, and they come from strong and healthy families. The level of risk increases under the same conditions as typical childhood. When the prospective parents lack self awareness, or have unresolved issues that will be aggravated by the stress of parenthood. I have no issue with strict policies and am happy that these people aren't allowed to monetize the adoption. The birth parents have surrendered their rights to decide what's best for the child, and that is a serious level of responsibility with consequences that ripple into the overall population of our generation. However, I don't fault their ignorance given the current image of adoption and adopted individuals. I think it would behoove people to exercise more restraint and critical thinking when it comes to questioning these heady topics so they don't end up being crucified on the internet for being actual 'well-meaning' idiots. I don't know much about the organization they were working with, but I wonder how their tone would be affected if they had to speak one-on-one with the birth parents about their monetization strategies.

[@enbeast8350]

Fellow adoptee, adopted from China at 16 months old to a white family. Lemme tell you, it's pretty wild being raised by a different race that has literally no interest in your own. I've got zero connection to my Asian roots, and it really saddens me. I'm so disconnected I don't even know where to begin trying to connect with my heritage. I was also told from near day one how I was adopted and how my parents "flew half way around the world" to get me. Very white-savior complex-y if you ask me. I'm glad they couldn't adopt from Thailand because that kid would certainly be going through worse things than I did. Not only having a camera shoved in their face, but these people seem like the type to go on an on about "how hard it was for us to adopt". Personally, I don't know when the right time is to tell someone they're adopted, but I know for damn sure that you shouldn't shove adoption in their face all the time. It makes us feel like we need to be grateful for being adopted and also deepens that insecurity of feeling unwanted by our biological parents. But I'm one person, so other adoptees may feel differently.

[@hotpotatohal]

@@enbeast8350 I’m a transracial adoptee as well. I’m black and was adopted into an all white family. I hate how a lot of adoptees, especially POC adoptees are treated like trophies and people expect to get some sort of pat on the back. Defs very white saviour-y. Being adopted is already enough to have to navigate and process in your life, when people like this adopt for very obviously the wrong reasons it makes it 10 times worse. I’m currently living where I was born trying to find my roots and understand my culture/ancestry. I wish you all the best in discovering your own culture and identity. Sending love from another transracial adoptee.

[@g.j.9515]

i love how cute this community is... seeing the twitch chat all like "HI KZbin!!" and "Heyooo" and "hello fans from the other side" and "help we are being held hostage" is literally so cute stop being adorable yall

[@DisturbingRainbow]

Please cover the Emily Artful x Creepshow art situation

[@farhatlamisa4451]

Every country should have that sort of adoption law to discourage these family vloggers from adopting a child for clout and then later discarding them once they've milked enough content out of these poor children.

[@xyanl4889]

The fact that they said "not our kid" for a year bc it isn't finalized for a year just shows how emotionally detached they are. Adoption is more than paperwork. If they want to build a real family, the connection would be enough to make the child "their kid" even without the papers.

[@idkyolo988]

So about Creepshow art… I don’t even know where to begin

[@robsands6656]

Oh no. An adoption agency wants to make sure they're putting an adopted child in a safe home?! They don't want people monetizing their adopted child??

[@ashtheintroverted7204]

What’s horrible is that it’s not even the agency 💀 it’s the Thailand government

[@rochelle1192]

I respect Thailand for protecting their children in this way. I'm not Thai but this protocol seems like a good thing.

[@beepatpen]

I know a lot of foster families and I am pretty sure there are laws surrounding showing your foster kid online, but I think it may be based on the agency and not state of even just US government

[@TargetJovian]

Hey deangalo. I don't wanna rush you or anything, but I know you used to have a lot of contact and friendship with Creepshowart, aka Shannon And a lot of really nasty information about her has just came out, most of which going on when you two were friends. Please address this. Of all people, I trust your voice the most. No rush or anything like that, but it's extremely important that it's talked about.

[@_la__arts_]

**rumour about holding people hostage** D'Angelo: "it has absolutely no weight to it" **muffled screaming intensifies**

[@GriffinZambia]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ7TYoVtm9eLjdk .