DANGER...TRAPS!!!

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Aquachigger

Aquachigger

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In this video, I find animal traps that were illegally set and abandoned. One was extremely dangerous and could have killed anyone who may have tried to look in a riverbank hole.
WARNING: Some of the links I provide in the comment section to refute the false statements posted there are of dead or dying cats and dogs in traps.
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@rachelmayes7905
@rachelmayes7905 9 жыл бұрын
I accidentally came across your video by mistake one day. After watching the first minute I completely became intrigued on all your videos. They are so interesting whether you are metal detecting, or showing us animal traps to your gorgeous pets they are brilliant. Please do not ever stop. Many thanks
@ebest8713
@ebest8713 10 жыл бұрын
These traps do not hurt the animals unless they chew their leg off. The conibear does not "crush and slowly kill" it humanly snaps it's neck and kills it instantly. Fur trappers use foothold traps so they are designed to do as little damage as possible, the do not hurt they hold.
@LukeJ084
@LukeJ084 9 жыл бұрын
E best has a point. Beau i strongly agree with him. and whats up with you and conibear dogs? hmm?
@LukeJ084
@LukeJ084 9 жыл бұрын
Beau you claim to be an ex-trapper and you think you know it all... im guessing you never caught much in your traps..
@ebest8713
@ebest8713 9 жыл бұрын
it is true that the conibear traps are inhumane to the wrong sized animal such as a dog but if used for the intended species they are very humane.
@LukeJ084
@LukeJ084 9 жыл бұрын
im well aware. the dog owner should be responsible for his or her pet.
@LukeJ084
@LukeJ084 9 жыл бұрын
you really dont give up... wow. Im going to end this conversation because you obviosuly cannot say anything inteligent.
@ressrieder576
@ressrieder576 9 жыл бұрын
I agree with you beau, I would have done the same as you did. And I'm a trapper myself. Those sets were not properly tagged and not being checked, and I do not believe any fur bearing animals would be in season that time of year. It is not illegal to stop a out law or even worse an un-ethical human or "slob hunter". Everybody is trying to make you out as the bad guy here, I don't see it that way, I see you did the right thing..these ppl should be targeting the slob that has given every outdoorsman a bad name. Just cause there were traps set out along the river, that did not mean a ethical or responsible sportsman set them there. I commend you for putting a stop to the slobs activities before someone got hurt or another graphic picture of a animal got broadcasted. These ppl that are trying to thrash you..they should think before they do anything. We outdoorsmen do not protect those who jeopardize the sport, those slobs need stopped. Thank you beau. I respect and appreciate what you did.
@XxRIVERxMANxX
@XxRIVERxMANxX 11 жыл бұрын
There are so many uneducated people that will view this and now have an extreme hate for trappers and trapping in general. To end my rant, I will thank you for making trappers lives more difficult and hurting others chances to find trapable land and make good relationships with land owners. Best wishes to you
@snyper069
@snyper069 7 жыл бұрын
As a trapper and professional, permitted/ licensed nuisance control business owner you did the right thing. You should turn those traps over to the local wildlife officer so they can try and catch the illegal trapper. Chances are they know who traps that creek and may have had complaints in the past.. That kind of stuff burns me up! Thank you for shining the light on this kind of illegal activity.
@bust3108
@bust3108 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for picking them up
@FaceBook-ek9ds
@FaceBook-ek9ds 10 жыл бұрын
My niece's dog got caught in a coyote trap here in the state of Maine and the trap was right near the ATV trail she was walking the dogs on. Any kid could have gotten caught. Game warden came to them and gave them a ticket charging them with a crime. After a misunderstanding about the owner of the dog, not being able to read the name and address on the trap. Owner took it back to vehicle on the road to see if he could read it. Games Wardens in Maine said that they do not have to be readable. Or clearly labeled. What state is this where Beau Ouimette is.
@jedimann74
@jedimann74 11 жыл бұрын
The foot in the trap was most likely a raccoon. They are the most notorious for chewing their feet off to get out of a trap although others have been known to do so. I know in my state we are required to check our traps every 24 hrs for footholds and in some spots every 48 hours for body grips. I am glad you took that trap. People like that give trappers a very bad rap.
@lukekasten8108
@lukekasten8108 8 жыл бұрын
Any animal that dies in the wild will have a much more painful and slow death than it would if it were hunted or trapped. Fur is a renewable natural resource.
@WayneTheSeine
@WayneTheSeine 6 жыл бұрын
There are slobs in almost every endeavor. As an avid fisherman nothing irks me more than to find trotlines left set and not checked....dead turtles, rotted fish and some with rusty hooks. It is not only illegal it can be dangerous to unsuspecting people. We had a young local boy who drowned after falling in the water. Bad luck would have it he got caught in a submerged trotline and could not surface.....the line had been there for a long long time. Abide by the law or keep your slob ass at home.
@rendezvous5784
@rendezvous5784 8 жыл бұрын
Please do not condemn the trap or Trappers. Traps ethically, legally and properly set are humane and safe. The guy who set those traps is despicable, a criminal and especially despised by all true Trappers.
@colleenposadas8415
@colleenposadas8415 8 жыл бұрын
Tren he SHOULD condemn that trapper, which is what he did.
@102nickplays
@102nickplays 7 жыл бұрын
Rendezvous Explain how trapping an animal is humane? You know what is humane? Leaving it the fuck alone.
@Raine-Cat
@Raine-Cat 8 жыл бұрын
I know this video is 2 years old but thank you for disabling the animal traps and any others you may have encountered. You did a great service to any animals in the area.
@grantwilson8169
@grantwilson8169 7 жыл бұрын
Why did it do the animals any good
@RustyNail5856
@RustyNail5856 9 жыл бұрын
TIM that was very nice of you to remove that trap. I would like to find the person that left that animal trap that were illegally set and abandoned to just kill .a sorry person. thanks again. :)
@bust3108
@bust3108 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for picking the traps
@arisup8668
@arisup8668 8 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you get these traps out of there. I mean if they have tags and its in season whatever, but old still set traps with no tags......ugh. Thanks for your good deeds and for these awesome videos I've been binge watching trying to learn more.
@XxRIVERxMANxX
@XxRIVERxMANxX 11 жыл бұрын
.... the man/woman that set these traps may or may not have forgotten these two particular sets, OR they may have not been able to retrieve them due to weather. That never once crossed your mind. If you were not purposly trying to bash trapping then you would have mentioned this fact. I speak from experience that alot of trappers have more than several dozen sets out at a time. Also from experience, these traps get checked daily and are rarely forgotten.
@OldButStillKicking
@OldButStillKicking 10 ай бұрын
I've walked trap lines with cousins years ago. They would never leave a trap unattended. I didn't always like it when we found something alive, but they would "dispatch" the trapped animal as quickly and humanely as possible. That's the way it was when they were trapping anything that might endanger their farm animals, over 60 yrs ago.
@michaelrunyan1723
@michaelrunyan1723 9 жыл бұрын
As has been said, these traps were left after the season was over. Which is illegal. Most states also have madatory laws that your traps be checked every 24 hours. So, again illegal. And no trap tags, again illegal. So yes, the person who left these was a poacher. Whether it was the person's intent or not, they are a poacher. When you trap outside of the laws set by the DNR in your state, you are a poacher. And yes, it is illegal for you to remove these traps. I understand your desire to make the area safe as well as your treasure hunting. However, it is illegal to remove these traps, tagged or not, out of season or not, regardless of your intenet. Report it to the DNR so they can be alerted to the situation and watch this area. Also, if you know the property owner, they should be informed. There is a reason we have DNR officers, it is their job to handle this situation. I am a trapper. A 4th generation trapper. And I am going to make it clear, a responsible trapper does NOT leave his traps, ever. With blazing (marking) your sets, keeping a detailed journal, and daily checks of your traps, you will not leave them behind.
@markschwartz5614
@markschwartz5614 9 жыл бұрын
This may be kind of late and I am refering to crab traps. When I worked inshore for the oil field in Louisiana the same rules applied. Traps are tagged and if not we would take them out of the water. I am not a tree hugger but there is no reason to leave traps about unmonitored killing animals. If you set the trap it is yours to take care of. Plus look at like this, if you are forgetting your traps this is a waste of a good animal when one is caught. Less for you and less for me. Crab traps are worse as they keep trapping unlike land based traps. My two cents.
@DonWilsondigginTimeUSA
@DonWilsondigginTimeUSA 11 жыл бұрын
Bloopers too, Hey your moving up! Haa haa. Loved the video Beau.
@mikedenton25
@mikedenton25 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks Beau for pulling those illegal traps that is awesome of you. Keep making videos
@popojojo7
@popojojo7 11 жыл бұрын
I think that was a Metal detector trap
@trishascorzelli123
@trishascorzelli123 11 жыл бұрын
I'm not defending the trapper, I'm suggesting neither of us knows the real story behind it. Calling DEC and not assuming is the proper way to go about it period.
@lostfound8112
@lostfound8112 9 жыл бұрын
All those flaming Beau need to learn to brain. I am not anti hunting or anti trapping but it’s simple. Traps were not set within compliance with local laws. No tags, wrong way etc. Beau had two choices, leave them as is or remove them. Since no one was obviously checking them likely another animal would have died for nothing and that’s a massive waste. If he did NOT pick them up then that’s his fault for that. Yes he could report to DNR but in time that takes animal could have been killed. So he removed them, saved an animal and only one who lost anything was the illegal trapper. Also he videoed it and educated several thousand people. Should he have just sprung them and left them? Why would he??? The douchebag was trapping illegally (so a guy robs a store with an illegal gun you should let him have it back? LOL) The trapper forfeited the cost of the traps by acting illegally...did Beaus final act become illegal..depends on local law...but an animal is still alive that didnt need to die for nothing…lol I hope Beau takes the traps and welds them into some form of relic display box ha
@dachip50
@dachip50 9 жыл бұрын
+Rob Fraser He could have sprung the trap and left it there.
@lostfound8112
@lostfound8112 9 жыл бұрын
***** true but wasn't tagged...I'm not Beau but I'd have left a cam in tree or something and give vid to dnr etc to press charges was close to my house
@BCOutdoorwilderness
@BCOutdoorwilderness 8 жыл бұрын
+Rob Fraser actualy i do believe by law he was to report them, taking a trap is theft i believe anywhere. because DNR may be slow doesnt give anyone the right to be above a law
@peterchase5717
@peterchase5717 8 жыл бұрын
that is true a game warden should be contacted before removing a trap if it is not taged nor checked every 24hour. people may feel bad for the animal but it is a means of food and money and still done with as little pain as one can.
@codyhatton6016
@codyhatton6016 8 жыл бұрын
first of all, depending on where you live, a certain size conibear can be out of water. in the state of Indiana the biggest conibear on land is a #220, also in indy #330 conibear has to be under water. in the state of Wisconsin #160 conibear is the biggest land conibear. they are the best and most effective trap. the animals do not die slowly. its the fastest and most human trap out there. the coilspring trap with a muskrat foot in it, it was probably killed by another animal. most water animals kill muskrats.
@walkingtrails7776
@walkingtrails7776 9 жыл бұрын
Wanted to THANK thank THANK thank you!!!!for this video! 2 days after I watched this video the 1st time I went bottle hunting in a small creek close to our house and sure enough there was a trap!!!! I would have never had a clue what one even looked liked if wasn't for watching this!!! you literally saved me an arm or leg ( or fingers or hand or some hurting like heck pain) I was maybe 2 feet away and it was on top of a bunch of other Junk it mixed right in!!!! I did find a few good Bottles though! Your videos are great..we watch them with the kids all the time!!!! Many blessings!
@LycomingWarrior
@LycomingWarrior 11 жыл бұрын
You should have contacted your state Fish and Game about the trap
@MsArminta
@MsArminta 9 жыл бұрын
who the hell abandons traps? I check mine every day they are out and pick them up on the last day.
@LukeJ084
@LukeJ084 9 жыл бұрын
conibear traps do not need to be placed underwater, and no they do not "suffocate" the animal, it breaks their neck and is almost an instantanious kill. i agree he should have tagged his traps, but dont go saying it suffocates the animal.
@LukeJ084
@LukeJ084 9 жыл бұрын
show me as many pictures as you want, ill be trapping and hunting till the day i die, and there is ABSOLTELY nothing that will change that, EVER!
@The20thCenturyLimited
@The20thCenturyLimited 9 жыл бұрын
***** agreed
@LukeJ084
@LukeJ084 9 жыл бұрын
people like you make me sick.
@LukeJ084
@LukeJ084 9 жыл бұрын
ok, you still both make me sick
@The20thCenturyLimited
@The20thCenturyLimited 9 жыл бұрын
Luke Johnson Okay.
@lala6603ify
@lala6603ify 9 жыл бұрын
he's just like yea all sad and he's like YEP ITS SUFFOCATING NOW HAHAHA! JK but he was all happy like dang dude
@11111972cjb
@11111972cjb 10 жыл бұрын
Hey Beau. Glad you are picking up those traps and getting rid of them. What a terribly painful way to die, what sort of people leave them never to return? Anyway they are history thanks to you. Just watched your latest uploads, always enjoyable, thanks so much for posting them. All the best for this year (2014) and stay safe mate. Chris, Perth, Australia.
@THing4CSA
@THing4CSA 11 жыл бұрын
I would throw those traps into my scrap metal bin. Congrats on the many nice finds and for doing the right thing with those traps. I clean up the environment every time I go out. I enjoy your videos so keep them coming. Dave
@rbarbour64
@rbarbour64 11 жыл бұрын
instead of pulling the traps, you should have reported it to the local fish & wildlife. The traps belong to someone legal or not. I would be upset if someone messed with my traps. The trap owner could be in a bug out situation.
@john3Lee
@john3Lee 11 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your videos, especially this one where you decommissioned those traps... Well done.
@Axle1007
@Axle1007 11 жыл бұрын
I am a trapper and I agree with you! My friend is a Missouri Conservation off. so I always let him know when I see illegal traps. I wake up at the crack of dawn to check all of mine.
@parrotbill9072
@parrotbill9072 6 жыл бұрын
it's a fellony to molest traps that don't. belong to you tagged or not. The only legal way to deal with them is to report it to Fish & Game law inforcement and let them deal with it. No excuses, a thief is a thief no matter how you want to spin it!
@johnreynolds6276
@johnreynolds6276 11 жыл бұрын
When are trappers going to realize that defending "slob trappers" hurts trapping? It seems as if some trappers think anti trappers are the real enemy when it's really the slobs out in the woods that are hurting trapping. Last year slob trappers killed at least 20 dogs in MN but we've still got trappers fighting to keep using the sets that killed all those dogs. Anyone who disagrees is automatically labeled an "anti". Wake up MN trappers!
@gabrielhartman118
@gabrielhartman118 10 жыл бұрын
thanks for taking those down
@bobbyreese3420
@bobbyreese3420 11 жыл бұрын
first, if you look at the water line and the mud on the bank and the trap, the trap was under water at one time, so it was legal. Water goes up and down. It appears that the water was so high that the trap could have been lost due to the high water plus tags get torn off, and you are assuming that they broke the law. You also are stealing the trap??? Isn't that wrong too?
@kendaniels7257
@kendaniels7257 8 жыл бұрын
never thought to look out for getting a body part snapped off or broken reaching into the water by a trap.
@melaniexoxo
@melaniexoxo 8 жыл бұрын
Wow I guess this video is a jerk magnet. Thank you for removing those traps. There are actually people that trap for "sport" which I find barbaric.
@ericalonso4936
@ericalonso4936 9 жыл бұрын
I wish someone animals would put human traps so we feel what they feel. When we get caught on one.
@tthompson3063
@tthompson3063 8 жыл бұрын
hey man. my family traps and it has been passed Dee own from generation to generation. my dad gave me a number one long spring ( which I am sure you have no clue what that is Lol) when I turned seven years old first thing I did was snap it on my hand. and throughout the years I have been caught in more traps then you could count. please don't assume that trappers haven't ever been caught in a trap
@tthompson3063
@tthompson3063 8 жыл бұрын
+Beau Ouimette you ever driven seventy miles with a there thirty ( that's a trap Lol) snapped on both hands? no. lol
@whywouldntwe3
@whywouldntwe3 8 жыл бұрын
+Beau Ouimette that sure sounds like an anti trapping statement
@mikeadrover5173
@mikeadrover5173 11 жыл бұрын
As always, thanks’ for taking the time to make this video! And I support this site. ~M~
@MisterTalkingMachine
@MisterTalkingMachine 11 жыл бұрын
Big steel balls are normally used by rock mills in mines, the broken chunks of mineral are thrown on a rotating barrel with these balls and they're reduced to small pieces to extract whatever you're taking out of the rock. Copper mines here where I live use lots of them, you regularly see trucks with tons of these, going to the mine. They come in various sizes, from smaller than a golf ball to bigger than that one you found. Nice vids.
@celsorod
@celsorod 11 жыл бұрын
your my hero today Beau
@quinnhess6199
@quinnhess6199 8 жыл бұрын
hey im just letting you know that Connibear traps don't let the animal suffer by any means it kills instant like a bullet
@digginsouth9259
@digginsouth9259 11 жыл бұрын
Lol..glad to see your doing well sir:) god bless you man..you know I've supported myself this past year with my bounty hunter.been a learning experience for sure. Your videos broke up the grind for me and kept me smiling.HH an GL
@roadkillavenger1325
@roadkillavenger1325 9 жыл бұрын
If one of my dogs got in one of those traps and there was a name tag on the trap.... You figure it out.
@roadkillavenger1325
@roadkillavenger1325 9 жыл бұрын
commissarpistols Simple answer.. Yes.
@commissarpistols606
@commissarpistols606 9 жыл бұрын
Hope you like jail time or worse then. If they are trapping illegally go to the game warden.
@roadkillavenger1325
@roadkillavenger1325 9 жыл бұрын
You're mistaken. Guys like us are the ones that do the curb-stomping, so don't get in the way.
@commissarpistols606
@commissarpistols606 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah, right. What ever. Enjoy getting curb stomped, jailed, lawsuits, and even shot. An idiot like you has it coming.
@roadkillavenger1325
@roadkillavenger1325 9 жыл бұрын
commissarpistols You have no idea.
@andregross7420
@andregross7420 8 жыл бұрын
Those round things are most likely lineshaft pulleys from a machine shop, or similar place such ad a printing factory where multiple machines would need to be run from one 10 horsepower steam engine for instance.
@bigbearhomestead
@bigbearhomestead 10 жыл бұрын
Ok, Sir, First off, The trapper that left those traps was in the wrong, there are bad trappers out there just like there are bad teachers, bad cooks, bad cops and so on. But I would like to request that you do research and learn some facts about the traps that you found. Let me try and help you, the first trap was a 220 conibear trap. It doesn't suffocate the animals. It is an instant kill trap, breaking the animal neck or back. That trap is humane. The second trap you found was a number 1 and 1/2 from the looks in the video could be a number 1. Yes it is a foot hold trap. In my state you have to check your traps every 24 hours. I would like to ask you this, if people didn't hunt and trap how would you control the animal population? Do you know by hunting and trapping it is better for the animals because it helps control their population. If you have an over population the animals food supply will go away, then you will have all kinds of issues, wildlife invading homes, trash cans, pet food. You will also have a rise in disease like rabies, distemper and so on. Your drinking water will become unsafe to drink (beavers). Now I understand that you ran across a bad trapper, a trapper like that also gets a bad name in the trapping community and other trappers will end up turning him in. All I ask is that you don't try and over DRAMATIZE a trap when you find it.
@bigbearhomestead
@bigbearhomestead 10 жыл бұрын
***** I guess you missed the part about leash laws and that there are different size conibear traps for different animals, of course a 110 or a 220 will not kill a large dog instantly but a 330 would. Trapper cannot be held responsible for people who are not responsible for their own animals.
@searose1015
@searose1015 8 жыл бұрын
Conibears break their necks instantly and also it can be above land in some states...
@luisncolon10
@luisncolon10 11 жыл бұрын
which metal detector is better the Garrett AT Pro or the Garrett At Gold?
@njpioneeroutfitters4422
@njpioneeroutfitters4422 8 жыл бұрын
Beau Ouimette you are correct these traps were illegally set but you have broken the law as well by removing these traps. you should have reported your finds to your local game warden department instead of removing them. I am a trapper and I believe that if you are against trapping then fine but you shouldnt steal traps to get them to stop trapping. Just my two bits.
@njpioneeroutfitters4422
@njpioneeroutfitters4422 8 жыл бұрын
may I ask what state this is? seems nice over there
@backyardmeat
@backyardmeat 11 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing we don't agree on trapping, and that's ok. I'm glad you at least pointed out that what you found is illegal, most trappers are very diligent about tending our traps and are more respectful than that.... All differences aside, was the round ball a bocce ball?
@jenngrayy6582
@jenngrayy6582 9 жыл бұрын
What kind of tracks were nearby where you set the steel ball?
@scoobydo1276
@scoobydo1276 11 жыл бұрын
Hi Beau...serious question, but have you ever thought about using one of those neodymium magnets for hunting say off bridges or in deeper water that you cant access with the detector. i noticed that a lot of your finds would be picked up with a large magnet. Theres lot of guys over here in europe hunting for WWII relics such as rifles, bayonets etc in lakes, ponds and well's, and i thought this could be be applied to your sort of finds aswell....anyway, just a thought....si
@normanhirtle3180
@normanhirtle3180 9 жыл бұрын
Simple as this to those dissin' Beau, Check the link he's posted to several commentors already, I did and it sickened me. If you are trapping legally & properly, TY. If you are not following the rules & regulations and I came across your traps, they would be gone.
@dachip50
@dachip50 9 жыл бұрын
+Norman Hirtle And stealing personal property is just as wrong and illegal. If you come across a trap out of season, put a stick in it to spring it, and leave it there.
@trishascorzelli123
@trishascorzelli123 11 жыл бұрын
These traps are absolutely meant to kill instantly..not suffocate slowly. Calling DEC is the proper way to pick up traps, illegal or not. Keep up with your collection hobby but no need to bash trapping while you are at it.
@janporinchak5867
@janporinchak5867 Жыл бұрын
It was certainly set underwater but exposed as the water receded. But, this is set by a poacher, not a trapper. As evidenced by the lack of tag.
@reznecktrapper96
@reznecktrapper96 11 жыл бұрын
you can get in a lot of troble messing with some ones traps next time you should call the game warden
@bradneumann837
@bradneumann837 9 жыл бұрын
I use connie traps all the time from 110 all the way to 330 for raccoons and beavers. when I trap on public land I always put a flag that's trap about a foot away. If someone's dog happens to get caught in one there are signs put up everywhere that's trapping in progress. If your dog happens to get in a one Hey guess what it's your own fault for not paying attention to the signs. and if I ever caught someone stealing or messing around with my traps trust me it's a felony offense! I'm the last person you want to steal from our mess with my hunt!! Now those trappers who do not mark their traps I hate I hate it alot as its is in my opinion lazy and unprofessional and no courtesy for others. But these traps are legal to use just check your state regs before setting these.
@MadisonMainedetecting
@MadisonMainedetecting 11 жыл бұрын
Another nice video keep them coming.
@headrot2443
@headrot2443 11 жыл бұрын
THANKS FOR SHOWING TRAPS ..IVE FOUND 2 OF THOSE SQUARE TRAPS BEFORE IN THE THE WOODS AT DIFFERENT TIMES AND WAS WONDERING WHAT THEY WERE .BOTH LOOKS LIKE THEY WERE SPRUNG''NOW IF I SEE ANY MORE THEY ARE HEADED TO THE METAL RECYCLERS"""
@mandyrooney4978
@mandyrooney4978 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@HighMountainTrapper
@HighMountainTrapper 11 жыл бұрын
Ya i use them too, i put a trail cam up on one and i caught a fox on land it didnt flinch, thats why you use the trap because it is a kill trap, so there is no suffering even in the equation. The only time there is, is when the trapper sets the trap wrong to the point where the trap fires once the target animal is too far into the trap to get a esential neck shot. Im not saying you are wrong but the trap is a kill trap, it may or may not be able to set on land, you just have to check state regs.
@steppnwolf76109
@steppnwolf76109 11 жыл бұрын
I agree there. Do it legally or don't do it at all. That kind of trapper gives all of a bad name
@jimurban7879
@jimurban7879 11 жыл бұрын
interesting video, just a thought, that trapper you are blasting might have had something happen to him that didnt allow him to collect his traps. Its completely possible that he passed away and nobody knew, or likely even thought about, where to retreive them from. or it could be like you said.
@buddykiller
@buddykiller 8 жыл бұрын
i'm very perplexed by trapping and sport hunting. personally, i am very much an advocate for animal rights, but living in west virginia for the majority of my life along with my understanding of ecology has taught me that much like all apex predators we play a role in balancing out the ecosytem so while i would be morally at odds with killing an animal i haven't a problem with controlled culling or hunting for food so long as the person dispatching the animal is proficient enough to dispatch the animal quickly without causing gratuitous suffering (even the most skilled marksman can fuck up). to be perfectly honest i don't even have a problem with small scale poaching for food nor do i have an issue with sport hunting provided the carcass goes to someone that will eat it. i don't think we'd need poaching laws if sport hunting weren't so popular, but that's really neither here nor there. the problem i have with sport hunting and trapping is when they're done solely or profit or trophy, and the degree of suffering trapped animals experience along with the inability the trapper has over what his/her trap catches. i can accept trapping in a homesteading situation as hunting doesn't always yield results, consumes valuable calories, and is very time consuming. we are omnivorous and meat contains essential nutrients you can only find in certain flora so i couldn't justify expecting someone doing so for survival to go hungry just to prevent another animal from suffering. i know this is a lot of exposition here, but surely if you've read this far you'll understand it's necessity. i don't mind and would even welcome having an intellectual argument, but i do not want the people i want to hear from to read this, get defensive, and either dismiss my comment or assume that i'm some crazy peta member wanting to tell them how wrong they are. living in west virginia, i've come to know many outdoorsmen and hunters from all walks of life, but i find the topic to be difficult to broach. i know it's a stereotype in more ways then one, but the majority of people here that hunt tend to either be super religious, leading to a possibly heated argument about god and evolution or a stalemate at "god gave us dominion", or they hunt for food. there's a small problem with trophy poaching (every year there are at least 3 or 4 deer found shot dead and decapitated), but for the most part they either eat their kill or give the meat to someone who will, and, with the exception of a few assholes, do everything they can to ensure a quick clean kill. i'm sure there are trappers in the area but i either do not know them or do not know that they trap. given this channel's content and based on some of the comments, there are a decent amount of outdoorsmen that watch this channels content and this video in particular seems to attract a few looking to defend trapping so i figure i'll eventually get a response. if you trap for profit (can you even hunt for profit?), is it your main way of earning a living, a secondary means of cash flow, or a hobby with a benefit? as far as i'm aware the main draw of trapping is to provide pelts for the fur industry. i'm sorry, but i find the fur industry to be appalling and, barring instances unknown to myself in which natural fur must be used, feel that the practice of selling fur for fashion should be illegal. if we had done this sooner with the ivory trade i don't think we'd currently be at risk of losing the black rhino or african elephant. similarly, i think an exception could be made for furs from animals that have died from natural causes provided there's a way to verify this, otherwise i find it to be incredibly cruel to make an animal suffer just so some snooty bitch can have a pretty coat. if there wasn't any money to be made would you still trap, and if so why? how can you justify killing animals purely for pleasure? every experience you have while trapping, outside of killing and causing the suffering of an animal, can be had with a camera. the only difference being that you don't get a dead animal to take home. practically the same thing can be said of hunting for sport, but at least hunters have "the thrill of the hunt". while i find it to be a poor excuse, trappers can't even use it to excuse their activities. why do trappers use such seemingly primitive traps? i've read a few trappers in the comment claiming that the traps that aren't intended to kill aren't intended to maim either, but that isn't taking into account the mental suffering inflicted upon the animal or any harm it might do to it's self attempting to get free. this also says nothing of the animals that the traps aren't intended for. not only have i had friends who have had dogs severely injured by these devices, but my late wife spent the majority of her free time volunteering for a local animal rescue and i can't even count how many times we had heard of these devices injuring dogs and have seen images of the aftermath as well as photos and videos documenting the recovery of such injuries. i wouldn't have anywhere near the amount of disgust for the practice if it weren't for the traps used. i'd even be willing to bet that this rings true for the majority of animal rights advocates. are cage traps just too unreliable? yes, i know that traditional mouse traps are no less humane and often lead to a fairly agonizing death, but i don't agree with their use either and the chances of things that aren't mice are severely low. i feel that they're for people who want the mice gone but are either too lazy to be death's hand or are afraid they'll feel bad. i'm also aware that nature can be far crueler, but that's the circle of life. those animals hunt at great cost to themselves, especially when you begin talking about large predators, moreover they don't have an alternative and couldn't humanely kill if they wanted to. most importantly, the majority of predators have neither the ability to empathize or a concept of morality. there are some social animals that seem to exhibit these traits, but not even close to the degree that we do. i realize that to a certain degree i am a hypocrite. i eat meat and enjoy it despite knowing the cruelty that a lot of commercially farmed animals endure, and despite knowing that by supporting this industry i cannot morally hold myself above hunters and trappers that kill for fun and pleasure. i do feel that i have a slight advantage as i do so for nourishment and because for the time being the meat industry is a necessary evil (not excusing the horrible shit that happens) but it really is very slight. mostly, i just want to understand why you do what you do, how you feel about it, how you justify it, if you've ever even given it a second thought, and if you've ever put yourself in the place of your fellow animals that you trap and kill. this is NOT an attack, but a call to discussion between two worldviews that really misunderstand and misrepresent one another. hopefully i'll get at least one reply out of this and i haven't wasted an hour typing this out. if your still reading then at the very least i thank you for at least reading the whole thing before completely ignoring me :P
@catmangoes
@catmangoes 6 жыл бұрын
Suicune: *puts paw through* RAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!! *squeal* AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!! *scream*
@kentondvorak2509
@kentondvorak2509 7 жыл бұрын
in some states its legal to trap private property out of season if your the landowner
@outdoordad-xh5xd
@outdoordad-xh5xd 9 жыл бұрын
Depending on the state's regulations, body gripping traps are illegal on land. Some states require that they be partially or fully submerged, some have limits on what size you can use on land or in the water, and depending on the state you are required to check traps every 24 hours. As an ethical trapper, I make an effort to check my traps on a regular basis to prevent the animal from being left for too long, theft, and to make sure that everything is functioning properly. In the state of Alaska, it is written in the regulations that it is against the law to block or restrict a hunter/trapper from pursuing game; which also means tampering or removing traps. There are SO MANY cases where people have interfered with outdoor activities, simply because they either don't believe in hunting or trapping, or because they are concerned about the "poor little animals". Some people don't seem concerned about the "cute little critter", until their cattle are being eaten, there is a wild animal chewing on their pet, or their property is being destroyed by Mother Natures little darlings....
@ryanwilson7993
@ryanwilson7993 11 жыл бұрын
The trap needs to be strong so it kills the animal faster. I am a trapper and believe me trappers don't want the animal to die slowly; not just because it isn't humane but it causes damage to the fur so it isn't worth as much as a regular fur. And most leg hold traps have rubber jaws so it doesn't hurt the animal it just holds it in place
@AkDan76
@AkDan76 10 жыл бұрын
I've addressed name tags and won't disagree it's a petty crime, and easily could have been a simple mistake. We've already have gone rounds on the fact the person could be dead. But if you feel the need to slander this person without knowing anything feel free. And lastly. We've also already established these sets were left for whatever reason. A poacher wouldn't leave these as you've already stayed the cost alone is worth as much or more as your Potomac river fur bearers. We've also easily established your high water mark and the reality that these traps were put out prior likely to a change in water flow the simple fact of stating these traps were placed out of water to begin with would and could easily fall under hunter /trapper harassment laws, illegal or not your online video and following slander of said user is liable in court ! It is also considered slander in a report. (Written ). Along with this being an oral video . A sort of double wammy . I won't stick up for a poacher! But I also know better to point at someone and cry wolf before I have all the details. We can sit and assume until the wolves come home. Innocent until proven guilty is history in this country.
@milasdaughdrill1674
@milasdaughdrill1674 8 жыл бұрын
It deos not suffocate the animal it breaks its spinal cord so instant death but reflexes still kick in.
@jeremyalbert7613
@jeremyalbert7613 11 жыл бұрын
Conibears are not meant to kill dogs, they are meant for smaller animals, fact is that sometimes dogs do get into them but its up to the trapper to make sure that he is setting where people don't have their pets running off a leash/put up signs to let people know that you are trapping an area so they have been warned. When it comes to using conibears to kill beavers/muskrats/otters/minks/WHATEVER, if you are using the proper trap for the targeted animal it is an instant death via broken neck
@ryanburgess8436
@ryanburgess8436 9 жыл бұрын
certain animals in certain states can be trapped year round. i live and trap in idaho and you can trap fox,coyote and badger year round
@11yearoldhomstead26
@11yearoldhomstead26 7 жыл бұрын
Most of your info is wrong about trapping
@stevestucky6319
@stevestucky6319 7 жыл бұрын
All of his information was wrong. This is what happened, the trapper set his traps, that hole was under water and his trap was under water as well. After that the water went up and he could not get his traps because it may have been under several feet of water. Same thing happened with the foot hold trap. The foot, who knows but my guess is he made a catch and the water went up he couldn't get to it. Another critter(s) made a meal out of him and the foot was left behind. Granted the trapper is definitely a lazy bum by not going back to at retrieve his hardware but your interpretation of what trapping is all about is wrong.
@ronschrader6357
@ronschrader6357 8 жыл бұрын
On that video you were talking about they were using a much smaller trap so that's why the dog suffered
@The650twin
@The650twin 11 жыл бұрын
Good job pulling that trap Beau. No tag and way out of season. It should not be there. I trapped for years and there is a responsibility of hunters/trappers to check and pull these. The law states you must check them every calendar day. Maryland is 8 in max opening for Conibear, Virginia is 7.5 in and Delaware is 5in. It's not fun losing a dogs leg to these when you are swimming, think they should all be picked up.
@FaceBook-ek9ds
@FaceBook-ek9ds 10 жыл бұрын
Maine state says, according to the Game Warden's it is illegal to remove a trap. And they say they do not have to be labeled clearly, though the web site says so.
@ryanwilson7993
@ryanwilson7993 11 жыл бұрын
I agree Jesse Hudler trapping,fishing, and hunting is very important to control population
@steppnwolf76109
@steppnwolf76109 11 жыл бұрын
if they were out of season then that's a different ball game.
@jedimann74
@jedimann74 11 жыл бұрын
body traps can be used in most states out of water as long as its not used with bait and or over a certain size.
@jedimann74
@jedimann74 11 жыл бұрын
***** very true
@2coolvlogs178
@2coolvlogs178 9 жыл бұрын
I'm not trying to be offensive to anyone but dogs getting in traps are most likely going to severely wound the dog and possibly kill it but, traps like that aren't intended to be set by off big game animals or dogs more so smaller animals like raccoons beaver opossum so on. But, it was a horrible misuse of trapping to not put a tag on the trap
@forterierocks
@forterierocks 11 жыл бұрын
Cool finds! Sad ppl gotta set traps in the middle of nowhere where a small animal probably wouldn't be a big issue! Question what is pig iron?
@canislatrans8285
@canislatrans8285 7 жыл бұрын
My observations of how a conibear type trap kills. The animal is wacked HARD on the back of the neck or the spine in the chest area. This knocks them unconscious, then they die of asphyxiation or strangulation. I have seen it so many times, the animal doesn't seem to have moved after being caught. The 160 is what the one trap looks to be, and is good for muskrats, mink, and raccoons. It's a rather sloppy blind mink set. I'd have blocking sticks to the sides and the trap closer to the hole- and I'd do it legally. In my state that 160 better be resting on the edge of the water or have a spring seep running right under it. Oh and the season would kinda have to be in too...
@jacobinfante375
@jacobinfante375 7 жыл бұрын
it's Illegal to remove traps that aren't yours. That's stealing
@102nickplays
@102nickplays 7 жыл бұрын
Jacob Infante So.
@GroundBalanced
@GroundBalanced 11 жыл бұрын
The traps are supposed to be completely under water? Have you ever came close to stepping on one in the river? Ever seen one under water still set?
@isaiahshaffer
@isaiahshaffer 11 жыл бұрын
Maybe the guy that set them died and the water might have been higher in trapping season but I know I would never leave my traps out, they are to expensive , great video though
@trappingworld6463
@trappingworld6463 10 жыл бұрын
Hey Beau...just a couple quick comments. First off you are right that those traps should not have been left but really no proper trapper would do that ever. Maybe the guy passed away or what ever but they should not be there. The traps look to me like they were set when the water was much higher so other than the no tag they probably were set legally. The foot in the trap looks to me like a animal that had been drowned and then when the water receded it was eaten by some other critters. You can tell this by how much of the leg bone is sticking out of the trap. Trappers who remember the days before the conibear traps know that when an animal "wrings" off there is only any evidence left on the inside of the jaws. And conibears very rarely kill instantly. They will render the animal unconcious at times instantly but in the testing that was done back in the 1980's by the Canadian association for Humane trapping (an independent testing group) found that an acceptable (sorry can't remember the exact %) number of animals were expired in under 3 minutes. And the traps have been greatly improved since then. For the people who don't think that is good enough well we know that even with 100 % instant kills they still would not be satisfied. But anyway the traps should never be left it is totally unethical but sad to say that if I died in the middle of trapping season there would be some traps left in the bush, although my brother in law would try and find what he could. Thanks.
@trappingworld6463
@trappingworld6463 10 жыл бұрын
I forgot one other thing. The dog issue and I will have to agree with bigbear that the dogs should be kept on a leash. Most public land up here at least is multi use so why should one group have precedence over another.
@trappingworld6463
@trappingworld6463 10 жыл бұрын
Well I do not have the advantage of being there but it looked to me like the foot trap was anchored at a level where the chain could have reached the waters edge, and that would be an acceptable drowning set. But like I said I wasn't there, I can only go by what the video shows.
@ddkoutdoors9957
@ddkoutdoors9957 9 жыл бұрын
It is illegal to tamper with a trappers trap
@BADD1ONE
@BADD1ONE 6 жыл бұрын
Really? Unattended, on public land, not tagged. What would a forest ranger do?
@PhillipChivers
@PhillipChivers 11 жыл бұрын
So what is the steel ball? I have found two of those land surveying and always wondered what they are. I've enjoyed your videos. Have a great day!
@EamonnmacCampbell
@EamonnmacCampbell 11 жыл бұрын
I think the steel ball is for a rock crusher. I have a few about the same size and bigger that I use for Armouring stakes.
@typeo37
@typeo37 8 жыл бұрын
Just other person thought he could lie and get way it. Most trapper pickup their traps and have name tags on them. So educate yourself before you speak so you wont look like idiot!!
@joshellington5727
@joshellington5727 8 жыл бұрын
Hi I'm a professional fur trapper I have had the misfortune of catching dogs in my traps and I know its a little cold but if the owners would take better care or their animals and not just let them run free on everyone's property i wouldn't have so many lost dog signs around me.
@buckwild9116
@buckwild9116 10 жыл бұрын
In some places they can be set on land they dont need to be underwater like for example a mink/marten box is in a tree and they are used and those arnt under water plus if you were on some one elses land you could be stealing
@WildWarriorBill
@WildWarriorBill 11 жыл бұрын
What US state do you live in Beau?
@nathanlivolsi2364
@nathanlivolsi2364 8 жыл бұрын
what did you do with the foothold trap that trap is meant for big animals like raccoon fox coyote and other stuff like that
@dakotasnyder9892
@dakotasnyder9892 7 жыл бұрын
nathan livolsi that was a 1 1/2 foot hold it can be used for raccoons, mink, muskrat and fox
@aaronfromwesternmass4293
@aaronfromwesternmass4293 8 жыл бұрын
Im a hunter, but I do have a bit of a hard spot for traps, they just dont make it a quick, clean kill, I've found animals stuck in traps, and helped them because they were either too big for the trap to do anything accept hold them in place, or they didnt work properly and the animal was suffering and too wounded to live, if you want wild animal meat, its a quick, clean kill with one shot.
@KaBomist
@KaBomist 11 жыл бұрын
The big steel ball may be one of the balls to a big ball bearing, i previously found a similar that weighed about 9 pounds. it belonged to a big ww2 cannon.
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