Sonic X Shadow Generations References

[@BirdieSenpai]

As an ancient Sonic fan, I grinned so hard at the Time Stones reference.

[@RedPineap]

they should give the time stones an actual use, like a form or a way to time travel

[@Elitze_Real]

same lol

[@DirtyDeeDavid]

Fr, hearing that gave me the biggest smile ever

[@DaSecondchannelofTitanzDaName]

I'm 14 and I know Sonic facts but I am dumb as hell in Math

[@bluephoenix_z3364]

I hoping we'll see them again eventually. Imagine a Time Sonic form and after transforming back into base Sonic again he'll gain a new time related ability due to interacting with their energy.

[@Sonic_memer10]

I must say that was an impressive speed run of the Sonic CD special stage

[@classiff1ed]

2:37. All I’m saying is a movie crowd would erupt if we get this shot in the third Sonic movie

[@ccelite3782]

I legitimately would scream

[@blue-flare7060]

@@ccelite3782same

[@NeoNovastar]

I DIDNT EVEN THINK OF THE POSSIBILITY BUT YOU'RE SO RIGHT

[@VasishthaSookraj]

I legit thought the exact same thing. And they haven’t show that shot in any trailer yet either (at least as of me writing this comment). I can actually see people making noise when that happens. And just to be clear, there is absolutely no way they’re not doing that shot. If there’s any Sonic and Shadow pose they would do in a Sonic movie, it’s that one 100%.

[@unnamed9482]

@@ccelite3782same but without the s

[@merimkastrat5846]

Shadow also does a back pose in the result screen, just like he did in Sonic 06.

[@gameomer1855]

• 1:03 The pose that Sonic makes is a reference to Sonic's continue animation from Sonic Mania • While Sonic and Shadow fight we can see those anti-gravity block platforms which can only be found in Crazy Gadget from Sonic Adventure 2 • Fly in the Freedom plays after Sonic "defeats" Shadow and when Rouge finds him

[@Sholver]

Same for Mephiles saying « you don’t remember Shadow? » because the flame was lit off

[@baconjester7077]

7:46 bro that line is legendary after so many years the time stones and thust little planet are finally mentioned in modern sonic

[@CrystalGreymon]

Metal Sonic was fought on Stardust Speedway Bad Future in Generations and if you take it further, Episode Metal of Sonic 4 features Metal's defeated body being fixed up by Eggman.

[@baconjester7077]

@ I know, I know but still it’s not implied, like with stardust speedway and classic metal sonic, they straight up out and say the time stones, which no matter how many times we see Stardust speedway will never compare with the stones being actually mentioned for the first time sense sonic cd or origins if you really want to be technical

[@MicklePickle]

bro sonic doesn’t travel with those stones the line feels unnatural and makes no sense because that’s not something that’d be on sonics mind cause he can time travel without them and generally alter time with stuff like chaos control

[@baconjester7077]

@MicklePickle I wouldn’t say feels unnatural and the times stones do play a part in it sure the past and future post is how sonic time travel in the game but that is the time stones power

[@TL1882]

little planet got mentioned in sa1

[@pirajacinto4]

I appreciate you mostly focused on the new stuff from Sonic X Generations, saving for the Genie and Park references being in the original game too. Though I also kind of wanted you to show the SA2 pose reference and set up also being a reference to Sonic Generations as well XD But the pull from Route 99 is AWESOME!

[@bellarosa_]

Missed one from Shadow Generations: When Shadow talks to Black Doom for the first time (after defeating Biolizard), Shadow turns and walks away before Doom's Eye appears and makes him turn back around. The movements are the exact same as the Shadow 2005 CGI before entering Westopolis.

[@RobertTheFoxxo]

I never noticed the doom wing had that special jump animation, but the instant that squash and mostly stretch appeared here, I knew exactly where that came from. What a fun reference!

[@noahlawlor808]

0:26 those are exact same words he said when sonic and shadow first met in sonic adventure 2 from 2001

[@TheUItimateLifeform]

He said I found you FAKER, not Shadow

[@peppermint_animation]

​@@TheUItimateLifeformI think he meant Shadow only

[@TheUItimateLifeform]

@@peppermint_animation he still said different words

[@eggynuts7735]

2nd time actually

[@soniccavinthehedgehogfast6823]

Because sonic didn't even know shadows name at the time in sa2 so basically still a reference

[@SmilingMountainLandscape-gh6oh]

Since in that game “he says the rules seem different this time around “ referencing secret rings

[@joshuaehizokhale9622]

7:45 bro went to revisit sonic CD special stages to complete the story of sonic generations☠️💀

[@CoolCJGamer]

TRUE

[@RobertTheFoxxo]

Dude had a whole flashback

[@xBlaster]

That was a good transition too

[@tailsfrontiers1224]

5:00 the moment I seen this jump in the game I instantly got nostalgic and remembered where this jump came from lol that was a great callback imo

[@Plurbi]

you forgot one. i’m pretty sure that character sonic is from the hit game sonic the hedgehog from 1991. fact check me if im wrong

[@SonicXShadowGensHype]

nope! rad mobile 1990!

[@Plurbi]

@@SonicXShadowGensHype the joke: you: 🧍‍♂️

[@SonicXShadowGensHype]

@@Plurbi yes

[@susanbrown188]

Yep

[@stfu_b4and0n]

@@SonicXShadowGensHype😂😂

[@doctorawesomeness6922]

0:27 You know Sonic's name, Shadow.

[@TimurSokol]

He probably made this joke because they travel trough past so it's ironic

[@Supersonic-ll1ie]

Clearly he doesn’t understand sonic and shadow lol

[@Sholver]

That blue haired liberal… of all places

[@noahlawlor808]

@@doctorawesomeness6922 of course they met ever since sonic adventure 2 from 2001

[@SmilingMountainLandscape-gh6oh]

That makes black knight canon

[@Sonikkuben]

But Black Knight is canon, Sonic mentions the storybook series in original generations

[@moonlightact1792]

@@Sonikkuben there's also the argument he made all that up so he had an excuse to be late at amy's date

[@Legendary_Fard1247]

⁠@@moonlightact1792what date? Weren’t they at Sonic’s birthday? And plus, they were trapped in white space (yes that’s what I’m gonna call it) when he said that.

[@reylimichel8023]

@@Legendary_Fard1247in the final scene of black knight, Sonic is telling the game’s story and just wasted time to avoid a date with Amy

[@Legendary_Fard1247]

@@reylimichel8023 Oooh, they meant in black knight, whoops I thought they meant generations lol

[@jaysykes2590]

This reference is pretty subtle but when Amy reminded Shadow of Maria’s real final wish in SA2, a tear fell from Shadow’s left eye and now all these years later when he said goodbye to Maria and Gerald again, a tear fell from the same eye and falls on Rouge’s face.

[@RobertTheFoxxo]

That transition between the Generations cutscene and the special stage was extremely clever

[@Shadowofzero]

Man, Sonic used to be SO COOL. And effortlessly so. I’m glad they’re moving back in that direction

[@Sonic_Boom_Channle]

Nice Video Thanks❤

[@VasishthaSookraj]

Awesome video bro! For as long as I played the game, I didn’t even pay attention to the jump animation with the Doom Wings, but the second you showed it off, I recognized the animation reference immediately and I was shocked. Sort of on the same topic, but it’s kinda interesting how they referenced Shadow the Hedgehog (The Game) so much in Gens but they never took a stage from there. Seeing the work they did on something like Kingdom Valley, I’d loved to have seen a Shadow the Hedgehog (The Game) stage given the same treatment. No clue what they would’ve replaced to get it in there. Maybe Chaos Island but what stage would work there? Or maybe they could’ve swapped out Radical Highway for Westopolis (they’re roughly the same vibes), but idk. 😅

[@Sonic10Forces]

Sega really like to keep on giving that SA2 shot of Sonic and Shadow. First SA2 battle, Sonic Generations, SXSG (Shadow Generations) and even the movie part in Sonic Central

[@RONALDOFANKK]

Man sonic adventure 2 battle Intro is Unforgotabble

[@Zomboy4313]

I like Sonic and Shadows poses in Shadow Generations since Sonic actually looks like he’s running instead of both of them putting their hands up like some sort of dog

[@ParsaAbouata-gj3qx]

Title:sonic x sonic generations😅😅

[@SatryoBayu-t8m]

More like Sonadow Generations

[@Cxlzu]

@@SatryoBayu-t8mjump.

[@Boykeeplays]

​@@SatryoBayu-t8mGET OUT

[@ryannathaniel9296]

Sonic-cest Generations

[@Bubzee11_Editz]

@@CxlzuREAL

[@ssmarticlesx]

i ran out of my bf’s room screaming in joy seeing the sonic adventure 2 pose, the child in me was alive again

[@Shiro-pm8uv]

When they cross paths in the older game, for some reason, it just looks better, more expressive 💙🖤

[@hoplabobla]

Cool 😁

[@vickybruh7412]

Seeing the comparison with the animation. Its so hard to even think about people being ok with the poopy animation if the old games

[@Abandoned2377]

Ian flynn bless you and youre good writing

[@BigDnotimpressed]

Also the cutscene with Black Doom after defeating Biolizard had borrowed animations from his first scene in Shadow the Hedgehog. Also some tracks were reused from that and it worked beautifully.

[@lilsoonerfaninmo]

All this does is just make me ask 2 questions How does Sonic just not see what Shadows up to if its just a hop and a skip away between the two White Spaces? And what has Silver been doing, since this carries the implications that Rival Bosses aren't just sitting on their hands

[@damacattack8434]

Ian Flynn understood the assignment.

[@jaydenwilliams7868]

Doom wings are is like a super form for shadow in a way

[@Fantastical_Stop_Motions]

Shadow has a super form

[@carhidu_8905]

Yeah but how it works in the game, i would say doom wings are equally as powerful as Super Shadow or maybe it's less weaker to it super form

[@GenerationZ313]

It does suck we don't get to see Super Shadow since we haven't seen that form since 2005 but then again the Sonic Storybook games didn't have Super Sonic in favor of alternative forms so I guess it's not unprecedented.

[@merimkastrat5846]

Super form without a Super form.

[@Fantastical_Stop_Motions]

@@GenerationZ313 yeah

[@LucarioShirona]

I have notice people say about how the Fake Chaos Emerald is still around despite apparently to have exploded. I guess Ian Flynn applied the “Never found the body” to the fake emerald since we never actually see it blew up on screen in SA2.

[@BiolizardthePrototype]

I’m pretty sure the entire game is references

[@protokiri9571]

6:40 THEY DID NOT JUST PUT AN OVA REFERENCE OUT OF NOWHERE WITH "South Island"

[@TL1882]

nah thats where sonic 1 is set

[@imshxded]

7:48 bro speedran that special stage

[@johnvicaireiii5537]

I think it's weird that in the game the two sonics are interpteted as older and younger, yes there's a modern and classic, but in actuality, it's two difference sonics, and there supposed to be roughly the same age. Although you could say modern sonic has aged more as more games featuring the modern version came out. I like to think of them as alternate universes.

[@matthewisguy7336]

8:38 Dang! The sonic origin blue sphere sprite?

[@DanielDX]

That's right 😉

[@matthewisguy7336]

@ Lol!

[@SpecialFunWorld]

Awesome video! :D ✨

[@nichesmith4349]

1:45 HEY that’s my line! AHHHHHHUGHHHHHHAHAHAHA!!!

[@garydj27]

1:54 There many references here. Sonic vs Shadow Battle in ARK Runway. And even Sonic Generations. Sonic vs Shadow Boss Battle. Not just that wonderful opening.

[@liamphibia]

We love some sweet callbacks.

[@Richmykal1212]

6:54 This is Also a Remix Of Sonic Theme Song from Adventure 1

[@TheKingOfLoveOfficial]

In the generations remaster, they could have gave sonic a boost similar to his boost in the shadow generations part. And his most current model too

[@TL1882]

or given shadow his new boost in the rival fight and kept sonic's original boost in the cutscene in shadow generations

[@DarkJstrike57]

I don't know if it's just me but I feel as if the music in the White Void Open hub world in Shadow's Campaign is a more slow, eerie and dark toned version of "All hail shadow" basically Shadow's Hero Theme from Shadow the Hedgehog and well a song from Shadow's Campaign as well

[@LorcanGallagher-q2v]

6:34 so what ive noticed is that the mouth movements no longer match the dialogue so that confirms that they were lazy to change the animation

[@AAlex-wg8ml]

No, the cutscenes were pre rendered. Therefore, they couldn't change the animation without putting in lots of effort. Remember this game has around 2 years in development, so Id rather they put that effort into Shadow Generations

[@LorcanGallagher-q2v]

@@AAlex-wg8ml oh i didnt know that so thank you for telling me

[@WindyREDPanda]

Play the game in Japanese and its syncs better

[@deadturret4049]

​@@AAlex-wg8mlexcept for all the cutscenes they did change. Some of remake shots have totally new camera angles.

[@AAlex-wg8ml]

@@deadturret4049 I mean, you're not wrong But all they had to do was shift the camera. The animations, minus the mouth movements, are still the same It is still the same cutscenes, cut a different view

[@susiehaltmann3342]

6:09 So we just not gonna question why the actual Nintendo DS startup sound is randomly in this game? (This was in the original as well btw)

[@Sholver]

THANK YOU SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED

[@CrystalGreymon]

It's not the DS startup sound. It may sound similar but that little beep is in all of the Classic games and is used to denote an extended period of time underwater. It's basically a gentle warning that you're running out of air.

[@Naito9874]

​@@CrystalGreymon in a bunch of modern games too iirc

[@CrystalGreymon]

@@Naito9874 Yeah, Generations has it more prominently than the classics do for example.

[@Sonicspeed4126]

Wow😮😮😮

[@Donatas-rp5yf]

More sonic reference😊

[@vasyangamer2232]

Hidden chao was appeared in Sonic rivals series too

[@TheShiningEnergy]

0:24 if only they got Ryan Drummond to voice that line. that would have been awesome. Alas, Sega had to do him dirty after Sonic Heroes

[@TesioMuka]

OHMY GOD

[@TL1882]

the only one i missed was the jump animation

[@switchaccount2308]

I kinda like the old delivery of tails' lines better. The voice actress kinda sounds a bit tired.

[@weridguy61]

Sonic on the shadow part look like Sonkc forntier model

[@Kojin1104]

Unpopular opinion maybe but I like the darker shade of blue on Sonic.

[@highcaliburx3751]

I was honestly hoping for a boss fight with Sonic

[@Coolio_Ash]

I wish he said "i found you faker" and also "ill make you eat those words" but hey cant win em all

[@yamandoesstuff]

call ians writing trash all you want, i think the references here are sprinkled in nicely.

[@ethansully]

He’s a good storyteller but the references just don’t feel like natural responses. “How did this happen?” is a much more natural response than “without the time stones?”

[@cool_guy_1.e4071]

His quills was longer

[@JaxsonRives-g9j]

Same references

[@notaadamritm]

Times Stones geçişi biraz komikti

[@GenesisAdhyan671]

Cool

[@danielgamer4life]

you forgot to include "south island" from sonic OVA

[@AquelePequenoNiVy]

Nah, south island is where Green Hill is, it's in every game that has Green Hill in It.

[@fatimarizvi3564]

what happened to the death egg robot music its from sonic 2 classic death egg zone

[@willberto6969]

I miss when references didn’t feel so forced

[@WindyREDPanda]

Not reference its History.

[@Negawisp]

Indeed they are! Information from most of the refferences in redone sonic generations dialogues is absolutely irrelevant. And the pretence of some kind of continuety between games feels SO forced as well

[@jaecasino7048]

Ahhh yes. Hating references in the *looks at script" updates port of the 20th anniversary game whose plot is explicitly about revisiting the past of the franchisr

[@Sholver]

Tbh this game is fanservice so yea

[@CrystalGreymon]

Referencing literally of the pre-battle Dialogue between Sonic and Shadow in one cutscene almost entirely verbatim? Yeah, definitely forced. The Time Stones bit felt a little forced but most others are far better handled.

[@XaraHollowKnight]

1:19 No Tails, that's Shadow.

[@sfm23-23]

you forgot the sonic adventure 2 city escape reference

[@NasimHassani]

I just noticed,sonics model is sonic frontiers model Couldn't they use the original generations model?

[@Gdz_ru233]

Sonic x sonic generations

[@Pau31076]

Arent the lost chao a reference to those sa2 missions?

[@MichaelSerrano-sk1vq]

They're also a reference to that, but the multiple chao throughout the stage is a reference to a requirement to the true ending of Sonic advance 3 (Also known as the key to the special stage in that game)

[@Xxblade17]

Yessir

[@crimsonhunterzero3174]

6:39: Hearing Tails mention South Island both surprised and confused me for the simple fact that Tails never been to South Island, which is where the first Sonic Game takes place on. Having Tails say "Not to me" in the original script when Sonic asked him did the place look awfully familiar made more sense because as stated before, Tails has never gone to South Island let alone was involved in the events.

[@CrystalGreymon]

Okay, but the Classic characters are their younger selves and Mania happened to the Classic characters.

[@bellarosa_]

Green Hill is on South Island, and Tails has been to Green Hill before.

[@crimsonhunterzero3174]

@@CrystalGreymon Generations came out before Mania not the other way around

[@crimsonhunterzero3174]

@@bellarosa_ if you're referring to Mania and Forces, Generations came out before those games did.

[@bellarosa_]

​@@crimsonhunterzero3174 Sonic Chaos is when Tails visited a roboticized version of Green Hill, Sonic Drift uses Green Hill as a racetrack, Tails visits Green Hill in Sonic Jam (although that's a compilation game so it could be considered non-canon), Green Hill is a stage in Sonic Battle (as a bonus for beating the game, potentially non-canon), and Classic Tails is literally there in the Generations plot to see Green Hill. So, Tails has been to Green Hill before.

[@God-ob8pe]

Title: sonic x sonic generations💀

[@GamingKingdom91]

Terios..isnt a reference...hes shadows beta design.. I gues..maybe..you could say hes a referance..but imho hes really not :T

[@GuilherminaDacosta-k4w]

Musica legal

[@CarlosBwalya-v3h]

Sonic X sonic

[@audriella222]

SHE IS NO LONGER MOTHER

[@tollz7194]

I lowkey hate Sonic’s new character model

[@josuecolinanco1746]

I found You FAKER 👹

[@GamingKingdom91]

That blue hedgehog again,of all places...