Evolve Hadean - I don't get it.

[@DanielKwan]

Will you get the Evolve Hadean?

[@OliverKempel]

hwellll naw

[@sharky1854]

yeah when i win the lottery and than il buy this maybe or just 3 wowgo at2 or 2 exway atlas 2wd's

[@ye11owb0y21]

fawwwkkkkk noooo

[@mattbaillargeon]

Nope, I’m happy with the lonestar I got. Anyone who gets this is an evolve fanboi

[@mrreddington777]

Hells fucking no. Unless you’re a KZbin influencer and get this board for free, there should be no reason why you’re even reviewing this. Unless your viewers are all rich.

[@ClarkDroneFilms]

I don't think they will be sending you a review unit 😂

[@colealgeo2785]

Yep…

[@ssslade7052]

he could go back and change a lot of peoples mind if its worth it now at this price

[@TheTanelChannel]

@@ssslade7052 Ive ridden the GTR for years and this summer got to test the Hadean... Im getting that shit! The range is insane but the acceleration is just ludicrous.. absolutley bananas on the 97mm street setup... even though the GTR already felt insane.. this thing is like beyond crazy. Very fun board to drive on.

[@Bearforceone]

@@TheTanelChannel Now ride any other brand board at this level and you'll never touch an evolve ever again.

[@TheTanelChannel]

@@Bearforceone I dont see why unless I want to go AT wheels finally and then 50kmh is slowish yes. But Hadean offers pretty much everything you want and has the best remote out of everyone by far, the user experience is nr1. I get if u ride AT then its not as fast but for street setup 40kmh is sketchy as hell and you get to 40kmh in like 1-2 seconds on the Hadean which is insane fun.

[@MentalEdge]

The reason you haven't had to re-calibrate other remotes, is because other remotes re-calibrate themselves EVERY TIME YOU TURN THEM ON! If you hold the control-wheel off-center while you turn a remote on, it will actually tell you to let go. This is because it needs to re-detect center on power-up to make sure acceleration and braking always works correctly. That the evolve remotes don't work this way, and have to be calibrated manually, is beyond me.

[@silvercrypto4284]

Didn't know that but I can see how it makes sense. 👍

[@haku4841]

That’s disgusting

[@rusinsr]

Love hearing your insight! As a DIYer, it blew my mind to learn that Evolve boards before the Hadean used a square wave input to drive the motors (BLDC mode). Like, what?!?? Not what I expected from such a big electric skateboard maker.

[@ArizonaJewell]

Same here for sure. I’m also a DIY guy and I can’t believe that evolve hasn’t been using FOC. Hobbywing ESCs are FOC capable and are dirt cheap. You can buy a hub motor hobbywing ESC from ownboard WITH a remote included for $29. I have no idea why evolve would shoot themselves in the foot by not using a sine wave ESC.

[@rusinsr]

@BigFatCone Yup. Single focbox was the first vesc 4 based esc that could do FOC reliably, and basically every vesc based esc since then (definitely vesc 6 based ones) handle it perfectly. BLDC is loud, and braking can catch you off guard. 99% of people use FOC these days.

[@ArizonaJewell]

@BigFatCone Yeah FOC has become the de facto standard these days. I will say though that I have tried out a couple evolves before and I never would’ve guessed they were running on BLDC mode. It’s a tad jerky, but in lower speed modes it really doesn’t feel like BLDC at all. Still have no clue why evolve didn’t switch to FOC earlier though.

[@DarkBloodyFoxy]

I guess it means that there is no real difference in practical application like esk8 between FOC and BLDC :D

[@jimmysyar889]

Pretty sure it's trapezoidal not square and technically it's not a bldc anymore its a PMSM or permanent magnet synchronous motor.

[@RCSkate]

Everything you outlined is great and 100%. Thanks for sharing. Why did Evolve over price this board? It may be a move to get people talking, but that strategy might not work out in their favor.

[@TLPagut]

The MIL-STD-810G drop test tests the resistance to shock of electrical equipment on surfaces. In total, 26 drops from about 4 feet (phones, laptops) are necessary to perform the complete drop test.

[@DanielKwan]

Thank you

[@charlietube7165]

@@DanielKwan I like the electrical motorbikes from China much cooler

[@AkiraSumida1]

At $3k, may as well go with a Trampa and get 6376 motors with gear drives... Easily leave the Hadean behind like a relic of the past lol

[@AlexKnappy]

Your video was instrumental in my refusing delivery of my ordered Hadean Carbon, and using the money instead towards the Endeavor Pro (of which your video also did well to convince me)! Keep up the great work steering folks in the right direction! :)

[@andrewlloyd-seetim1271]

Purely down to the company ethics and what I perceive (perception based on Evolve's own content) to be the arrogance of the employees, I would never buy an Evolve product. It's a shame, as I quite like the Hadean.

[@Sosh_euc]

2k+ kms on the gtr. That new remote looks sweet! That board is definitely overpriced for what it is

[@maxdagosti94]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHPFmmuLqKiGgNk😂

[@darrenmalone9602]

@@maxdagosti94 Agreed upon...That remote really looks durable...In the end who knows for sure?...All boards kinda have issues of one kind our another...budget or high end need adjustments from time to time. Buy whatsoever pleases you...money permitting this is the most fun a human can have on land...(in the sport or hobby department😝)

[@maxdagosti94]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZ66kqaNrM6Hd8k Honest review of the HADEAN

[@contorta960]

The other advantage of a chassis is it makes it harder for people to upgrade down the line. Can't easily put any other motor controller in there, who knows how the plastic and fibreglass will wear. Stops evolve customers DIY'ing their decks because they're not decks anymore they're a chassis and plastic. One interesting thing is those air vents seem to be purely aesthetics as the bamboo varient has no air vents lol. So it just runs hotter or they're just for show on the carbon? If they've addressed the issues that plagued their previous motor controllers then this board would be sound at the right price point. This board should of been the GTR .. you pay 3k for this thing and next year it's going to be years behind in the industry. Wrong price and wrong year.

[@pjortmaszyna]

the thing is whatever evolve comes up with there'll be people smart enough to make their way to put a proper ESC (VESC obviously) and get rid of their idiotic bms just to make their board usable again after it dies, cause it's crap. even gen 1 carbon got modified so hard evolve can only learn, but hey, it's premium price, so it's got premium service, right? lol, not after guarantee expires, just buy a new, better one. i just hate them so much for trying to be (bad) Apple in this business. it's ridiculous how they brainwash their customers. over 3000 dollars for a board this outdated is a pure joke.

[@ryanberardelli2363]

Personally, I love double trigger remotes. For that price you can build a banging DIY with at least twice the range and performance

[@thetunows]

Asked evolve and still they don't want to tell what battery brand they use

[@yucelsifontes8184]

Great critical review from someone who is incredibly knowledgeable and understands the importance of the board being affordable to the everyday consumer.

[@CraigTaylorYT]

Great to hear your thoughts. 🙏

[@JoeyCbr]

The only advantage, if you bottom it out and damage the under tray, it won’t cost as much compared to replacing the carbon 😂

[@chris_panda]

Hadean vs Exway would be an awesome comparison! 🤟🏻

[@MaVeRiCk77]

Exway gets smoked.

[@darrenmalone9602]

@@MaVeRiCk77 Fair enough ..U speak firmly...like a little (what vs proof do you offer?) im...if have it? A righteous maker of that remark should be helping us to get closer to the truth whatever it may be. I don't sweat either brands as they are kinda strong & weak in various department(s)... Better than the Atlas?...hmmm🤔 $890 dollar (approx.) price difference.

[@kieras255]

Exway all day..

[@darrenmalone9602]

@@kieras255 Yeah...I own 2 X1 Pro Riots..I beat em up & run them all day 365 days a year...they perform well & never gave me problems other than expected...The 🔋 is not ideal...However they sell a really good fast charger. The only way for us to do better is diy one to our liking...otherwise all the other board makers are gaming us with under powered esc's & batteries so we keep coming back. Sooner or later one of two things will happen...DIY gets way less expensive or the big name companies that survive do the right thing & make a board that strong and fairly priced...until then keep your old board & clean it up...fix & upgrade what you can & should. Chances are you knew this already. Note: I made a basic board from 3 leftover boards parts...I runs decently...carves good but needs alittle little more work on the rear suspension control & comfort. (That's where a Exway really shows it's excellence in performance and handling...) first generation Hobbywing ESC -12 miles range runs 24 mph...30° inclines no problem on a WOWGO 2S HUB drive all other components bushings bearings etc have been purchased on sale on eBay...or FB MARKET PLACE. It runs...its not top shelf...it take 2 hours to charge... If you got 3 thousand to spare then buy what you like...if your not holding big money...build a basic commuter board...You will be running while the high priced boards are waiting for parts😒😬😜.

[@patricktrinh9389]

@@MaVeRiCk77 bruh exway atlas pro destroys evolve

[@DarkBloodyFoxy]

Evolve boards are pricey but they have dealers in many countries and very good and fast support. I bought a GTR Bamboo month ago and it’s totally ok for me. I like it’s very flexy deck. I wonder if Hadean bamboo is as flexy as GTR… But selling GTR for Hadean is no-no since terrain is mostly flat in city I live

[@robbieschweigert2700]

Exactly why I bought one. When I got issues with my Chinese boards it was a nightmare to get help. Now I can send my gtr for repairs if needed

[@DarkBloodyFoxy]

@@robbieschweigert2700 lucky you. There will be no Evolve anymore in Russia :-(

[@forrestmondlane6069]

What’re your thoughts on Exway’s battery scandal? Would you still recommend investing in their company after this and what do you want to think Exway should really do to address the issue?

[@DanielKwan]

BUY BACKFIRE

[@apokalypso2163]

The 12 dislike are evolve fan boys for sure ahah

[@maxdagosti94]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHPFmmuLqKiGgNk 😂

[@jl8096]

brace yourself more fanboys coming!

[@maxdagosti94]

@@jl8096 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZ66kqaNrM6Hd8k

[@stephangerz5767]

fyi they most likely drop the remote 26 times at different angles from 1.2 meters, as this is described in mil810* testing procedures. panasonic toughbooks and other rugged electronics also do this. evolve does not mention compliance with mil810* standard, which is probably a bad sign, as in the remote most likely not beeing rugged enough in other areas (humidity,salt fog,temperature,water,...) to actually market it this way.

[@LORFCASTER]

Details like this really need to be noticed and brought up more often

[@WiFeYBurGLeR1]

I hope you go in on Exway like this with the whole battery swap they did to customers that bought boards and waited 2 months to receive them.

[@ElGuapoDeSantoPoco]

Can't wait to see a full report on this !!! Finally we will be freed from the Premium Power joke 😂

[@ryan.2327]

"woow, foc, just like hobbywing" "sign wave, wow, just like pretty much every other motor controller." LMAO diy had foc like forever now. pretty sad chinaboards had foc before this premium company. smoking motors tell me they r going to overheat like last 2 gens. now imagine all the fan boys saying they have foc when everyone else had it for a long time...

[@davidmcgowen9527]

IIt sounds like a POS for the price as the original evolves aren’t that good anyway compared to other products way less of a price

[@darrenmalone9602]

Hey Dave when you have a free moment...would you name what you believe is better...It helps us defy the urge to purchase overpriced boards And that is what EVOLVE is banking on...You may be able to educate & save us $.

[@robras2850]

Acedeck for example out of nowhere better and cheaper, even meepo are better 🤣 and Tynee is awesome

[@speedbagwizard9880]

I just ordered mine anyway , Mr negative pants

[@boneheadnumber1409]

How did it go? Are you still riding it?

[@speedbagwizard9880]

@@boneheadnumber1409 unfortunately I had to move back from new Zealand to UK, so cancelled my order last moment, but I'll be still getting one at some ne point

[@boneheadnumber1409]

@@speedbagwizard9880 consider acedeck. What Daniel said in this video holds true today, really for all of evolves products. Ignorance is bliss tho.

[@KK-ol5ov]

The Evolve shop in london used to be out in Dartford, now it’s in the newly trendy Stratford Olympic park area I guess people living and visiting there just have much more disposable income, so you buying effectively 2 boards (warranty) for the price! I do like the Haeden board but now that I can build my own I would rather just do that.

[@phoenixprimus]

If I hadn’t just bought the GTR a year ago, I would. I understand all the frustration with the pricing but since I’m NOT a manufacturer… I really can’t have an opinion on that. All I know is that when I wanted a electric skateboard, only 1 company had one available within days of me wanting it. I don’t know if that plays into the pricing, but what good a great affordable board that will come to me in months? If you can wait, great. If you have the money and don’t want to, Evolve will get you carving up the street in days.

[@xavierreigneau41]

Can these ride in the rain though?

[@streetscholar1986]

Dan you the man and you crack me up

[@HamishScottWilson]

I just want to see Hadean vs. Atlas 2WD. If atlas wins it will make my year ( waiting for my atlas).

[@peteempiales5812]

Aww lucky bastard haha I’m planning to buy the atlas in the future but the flex is my baby until then🤙🏽

[@hoeliris7984]

I want to see that comparaison too, would be interesting. I hope somebody does it.

[@scottdaviesyoutube]

@@hoeliris7984 I will,

[@MaVeRiCk77]

No way the Atlas wins.

[@maxdagosti94]

@@MaVeRiCk77 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHPFmmuLqKiGgNk

[@MrBunitj]

I was considering getting a Hadaen until in saw the price. I have been looking for a second board and i live in Queensland Australia. My first is a GTR. At about 130kg I have been rather brutal as my commute involves some decent hills. So i am interested in what i should be looking at instead. I enjoyed your break down and am interested on your thoughts. Also I will be subscribing.

[@lukedudgeon8699]

Also interested in alternatives with a higher maximum weight. From memory, atlas was 100kg. I'm at 120kg and looking for my first board. May go down the diy route.

[@MrBunitj]

@@lukedudgeon8699 So i struggled with that as well before i got my first board, eventually I called Evolve and asked them about it. Bear in mind that is what Evolve told me and I can not speak for other brands. So the GTR has a 100kg weight limit but that is a performance limit. This is basically them avoiding being sued for false advertising. The limit is the the weight where you can reach their top speed and range. The GTR with AT wheels is meant to get (from memory) 37km/h and 30km range. I cruise at about 33km/h and my range best range is about 25km. So i figure most boards can take a lot of weight but the businesses just need to put a limit on to protect them self. Also i did get some warranty work done, I came into the store to get it done and they never asked about my weight for it. Maybe they would if you snapped a truck or the deck.

[@lukedudgeon8699]

@@MrBunitj makes some sense. I was also worried more about deck fatigue, or component limitations.

[@MrBunitj]

@@lukedudgeon8699 well I have the GTR bamboo. I commute to work on it every day. I ride to the gym and shopping. It is not unsual for me to run the battery down, come home recharge and run it down again. I live in an area with quite steep hills. And at 130 - 140kg, depending on backpacks and steal cap boots etc, it still just goes. On the big hills it slows to 27km/h. I have had it for a year. The deck shows no sign of fatiguing. I thrash it. I am basically seeing how quickly i can burn the motors out. The belts seem to be holding out. The AT tires need to get swapped out every 4-6 months as they lose tread. My goal was 2years with this board because thats about how long i calculated the cost to bring me out ahead of the cost of driving my car. I did wear out a bearing in a motor, but that appeared to be because dirt got in somehow. Most likely moisture. Not sure. If you are 120km, my personal experance would suggests that the GTR Bamboo will not struggle with your weight.

[@P.Subaeruginosa]

@@lukedudgeon8699 if you're looking at a high performance (1k+ board) you should just go diy, all of these pre made boards have good parts but there's brands out there making better diy parts

[@barelytrine]

Evolve is gonna be the next Boosted, they're going to price themselves outta the market. Go #Meepo!

[@ryanschulz9893]

i hope so. i find it hilarious when people think its worth the price

[@rumihayes6907]

And Go Exway!

[@nycjt6267]

at least boosted wasn't sh1t talkers

[@robbieschweigert2700]

My hub motor literally fell off my Meepo

[@robras2850]

Go Acedeck or TYNEE

[@race512]

Hello Daniel. Thanks for the review, now I want to buy a board with street wheels that do all that this board does for less price. Does it exist? Cause I haven’t found any. Seems like most of the high end brand only worry about the off road tires. Looking forward to the feedback

[@stephen0406]

I got a Backfire G3 with Cloudwheels. Works well and extremely fun.

[@urbanmenace]

I've seen heaps of people have issues with other remotes, quite predominantly recently the Puck remote, including needing calibration.. any info on when Atlas will be shipped? they seem to be playing the same old Exway game of delay after delay. I heard on the vine there were issues with them trying to change to 21700 from the 18650 set up. I've been looking to order but holding off til i confirm this and see boards actually going out.

[@maxdagosti94]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHPFmmuLqKiGgNk😂

[@urbanmenace]

@@maxdagosti94 I don't understand what you're trying to promote? I'm not talking about evolve, I don't care. But I will say the video makes you look like an uneducated troll. Posting random images of issues with old product and relating to brand new equipment. Could do exactly the same with absolutely any brand. It's not informative, it's not relevant. But okay. I also don't get why you used it as a reply. You seem to have a big bee in your bonnet against evolve. I'm not even talking about evolve so I don't know why you posted it to me. I don't care.

[@ElGuapoDeSantoPoco]

@@urbanmenace Max is posting this nonsense on every e-skate channel .... He apparently beyond any reason, thinks it's funny...

[@esk8journey664]

Where did you get the information on the motors? I've been in contact with a few places and it have been informed this isn't the case. looking at the video, they have the whole length of the battery really compact. I guess if you were to have that battery case inside an enclosed deck it would have made it a fair bit bigger. it's also the same length as the GTR by the looks, which is cool

[@DanielKwan]

From e-skate manufacturers in China.

[@ExplorewithZac]

Yeah I travelled to Bali with my GTR... Remote broke over a year ago from a minor accident, haven't ridden it since because they don't ship to Bali.

[@ExplorewithZac]

I will say, I DEFINITELY prefer two triggers... I feel way more confident with two triggers. More range for each trigger means better control.

[@johanmilterjakobsen1627]

Which skateboard is the best for city riding and just overall riding: "Meepo NLS Pro" or "Backfire G3 Plus"?

[@actionyakson]

Really enjoyed this one!

[@thetunows]

Did anyone find out the cells used for the Hadean

[@ajplant96]

40T in the demo units, probably Lishen cells in the production units, all the hadeans I’ve tried out in the wild sag bad after like 70% to where you might as well have bought a gtr bc it’s hardly anymore powerful than that

[@Mobakar]

Can the brakes fail if im going down hill and brake all the way down

[@Adanacon]

Couldn’t agree more …. My TRX 2.0 has the same battery capacity at 1/2the price! ??

[@maxdagosti94]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zmiuln2QhZ6ekMk 😂

[@Pelang8]

I was thinking the same as you about the price and I was thinking on getting one but at almost 3k for a carbon it is too much. I live in NYC in East Harlem I’d rather just get a NYC Kaly board I’d get more for my money and also their shop it’s only a 15 minutes ride from house and Ernesto -the owner- he is a cool guy met him once at Randall’s island, he is always testing his boards there

[@shibadad5891]

How to compare the hadean to the meepo hurricane? The hurricane seems to be the better choice for me, bigger battery, bigger motors, half the price. What do you think?

[@ajplant96]

100% go with the hurricane

[@darthphaser2991]

Hey Daniel. What to do about a dead remote battery? Kinda tricky of Meepo to solder a commonly used battery to the PC board. I refuse to pay $60 for a remote when I can replace a 3.7v 300mAh LiPo battery for 10 bucks. I'm gonna try to do it myself. Your thoughts? Edit- just to clarify , my Meepo Mini 2 ER has 1600 miles on it. Ok then.

[@paulcostache6733]

A bit harsh on Evolve but pretty much spot on. The bamboo Haden is a Wowgo AT2 for 3 times the price.

[@maxdagosti94]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHPFmmuLqKiGgNk😂

[@robm425]

I have an Evolve GTX which does everything I need. Board is still fun when I take out on rides. Finally my Zealot S arrived after 2 months (issues with ordering from companies like Exway and Backfire is the shipping times) and while I enjoy the ride of my Zealot S; I liked my Evolve came within the week I ordered it. Hadean is priced too high for me to stay with Evolve I rather put that amount of money to a Kalyboard

[@leovmajestic4024]

Or save up for a lacroix board!

[@robm425]

@@leovmajestic4024 been reading about issues with Lacroix boards from owners. Haven't heard much from Kaly owners

[@goontheracoon]

they use less in carbon deck than other boards.. thats why.. it doesnt save space, it saves them cash, and it costs 1k more than other boards, has smaler battery pack, same engines and same vesc.. sooo yeah..

[@Taxobell77]

*Dear Daniel, Please tell us the best all terrain travel board that is allowed on airplanes. It will help me cook and feed more families in third world countries and transport the food to them faster especially in villages with little to no roads and you have to walk a lot. I was wondering what the cheapest one is. I bought one for $420 like 5 years ago but it broke down and only worked on streets in the US but feeding the poor here isn't one penny per snack or 8 cents for a full meal like in third world countries where you can feed thousands with less than $100. I was hoping you can find the cheapest, hopefully around $500 and also one thats good for the price hopefully under $1,000. 10+ miles of range 18+mph. Most airplanes dont allow more than 160W :(* And i would love to see you make a DiY one. Maybe one that goes 50-100 miles of range at 30-50mmph. A board that is more elevated so it can hold an enormous battery. Maybe you can build an affordable one to sell around $500 that I can buy lol and travel with. im hoping the yecoo gts 6.6Ah is legal on airplane its $620. but i cant fell.

[@waseqk4703]

I live in Ireland, so I feel like buying belts is going to be expensive. Debating whether to get the zealot or g3 as a 230lbs rider and worried about replacing belts. I was just wondering if 1) if new belts were expensive (including shipping) 2) why I can’t find them on backfires website and 3) how often would they need to be replaced? Also I live in Ireland, it rains 6 months of the year here and snows for 1 month. Should I also consider the exway flex riot as it has the battery storage feature where it protects the battery when not in use for a while as I won’t be riding for half the year?

[@robm425]

Belts are cheap and offer better torque. I would go with belt boards. Replacement belts are cheap and available most everywhere. 1. I buy belts and accessories on Amazon and or outside retailers not the manufacturer. I have over 1200miles on my Evolve switched belts once. My Zelaot S shipped woth an extra set of belts. Do NOT go with Exway Flex, backfire has it beat woth range

[@waseqk4703]

@@robm425 I appreciate the advice my friend

[@sleepami4150]

Got a G3 coming soon but I want Allterrain wheels any hacks?

[@gavinsayer5260]

Glad I clicked on this video made me laugh so much thank u Daniel.

[@tynansander4022]

What wheel size is optimal for speed on electric skateboards?

[@detlyn]

Have you got a link to your Skate Board manufacturing company and your latest boards? It sounds like you’ve got all the answers. I can’t wait to see the board you’ve designed. I’m assuming it’s a game changer in every respect.

[@camomaster6316]

If all those motors come from the same factory would that happen to be the flipsky factory? Always wondered

[@DanielKwan]

Dongxingwei

[@camomaster6316]

@@DanielKwan does this company make the flipsky motors too?

[@J0eMega]

Hot damn, the shade thrown lmao

[@9DmgDone]

I like it lol

[@jamiecarter59]

Savage video , finally an honest person telling the truth about the gtr , my own board beats gtr for half the price and nobody is talking about it except you. Thanks

[@BlankofMaterial]

Evolve appeals to people too afraid to buy direct from China. These people are so insulated from learning about what's available from Chinese companies, they think evolve is leading the pack in tech, when they are in fact trailing by 3 years.

[@Saltinator]

Agreed. Evolve is just an Australian idea. They're manufactured and assembled, aka made in china.

[@MaVeRiCk77]

Some people just don't like Chinese boards.

[@maxdagosti94]

@@Saltinator kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHPFmmuLqKiGgNk

[@dmr3e]

@@MaVeRiCk77 but it is a Chinese board 😂😂 that’s the whole point

[@MaVeRiCk77]

@@dmr3e Yeah I know, my comment includes Evolve boards too.

[@ianthestithead]

Why 26 times on the drop test? Im guessing its because it broke on drop 27

[@lukecheng3819]

can you make a video about rules for estate in different city and if it is not allowed, how you deal with it?

[@jasonzheng5839]

“On a concrete surface with a plywood layer” so on plywood, lol

[@LORFCASTER]

The remote would never be dropped on plywood in a real world scenario, so this was silly. Should of been concrete ( not asphalt since thats softer ). Also, the precise number ? lol...

[@alexlittig7927]

@@LORFCASTER they ran it over with a truck and threw it 25 feet on to asphalt. also they did take away the plywood and dropped it a few times. did you even pay attention?

[@denondebonde]

yea, twice, did u not see the video ?

[@twelvewingproductions7508]

14:50 Does that surprise you? Previously they contracted to make their decks in China and there was a Chinese knockoff of their board on the market before they were even done developing their new remote. So I think it may be time people woke up to what China is doing as far as intellectual property theft. Sure, as you say, it leads to boards that are "comparable" at half the price... but what about the components? I've yet to test a Chinese cell that actually matched what was written on the case. China... needs to get it's shit together and start actually playing by the rules of international commerce. So yeah.. it shouldn't be any surprise to you that they don't ship to China. China... owes them a lot of money... and an apology. My gut tells me that these new boards are made in Australia or some other country that actually honors intellectual property. But I haven't looked into it. It would explain the price hike.

[@TacEsk8]

What if they waiting and they will make another board with bigger motors and replace the GTR?

[@iEkimmu]

I asked Evolve during the premiere of the video about the speed at which the tests were conducted, here is their answer: "Average 22kph on the calm, average 35-45 on the hill one." btw. it's too expensive. I like new bamboo deck shape, but.. I mean, for the cost of one hadean you can buy exway atlas + verreal rs.

[@maxdagosti94]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHPFmmuLqKiGgNk😂

[@BIB87]

Hello. Thank you for the good content) I ask you to give good advice, I weigh 110kg, which electric skateboard (longboard) will really suit me? Thanks.

[@DanielKwan]

What’s your budget?

[@BIB87]

@@DanielKwan It is not the budget that is more important, since this is a one-time purchase and for a long time, but the real range of travel, so that at least 25 km and so that there is no sagging of the board with my weight.

[@DanielKwan]

@@BIB87 If budget is no issue, look into Lacroix, Kaly, Trampa, Bioboards, Metroboard, etc., or build your own. I will be building my own later this month or next month.

[@kevinadvincula6450]

I should have waited this year. I bought my hadean BAMBOO 2n1 [2022] for (2,399) now it is 1,849. I could have bought the CARBON 2n1 this year for [2,149] and still SAVE money. Also. Hadean battery shut off around 30%

[@electromatic6769]

Say what you want about evolve but there customerservice and shipping is spot on. This is coming from someone that’s owned around 30 different electric skateboards in the last nine years . So I’ve dealt with most brands out there from high-quality to mid quality . Evolves our sharp looking and very good carving machines . I’d say their reliability is around the same as most big electric skateboard manufacturers . the difference that sets them apart is there shipping speed .when something goes wrong,It’s very fast..At least in the US. this is why I’ve continuously bought their boards over the years. Though I will 100% admit their pricing is on the high side and I usually find used boards to buy versus paying full retail . Ps I only payed 1200 used for my Haydean. Atlas Pro 1100 for a 4wd

[@ankjaers]

This type of board is still spec’ed like a hot hatch. You pay a bit more because of brand value and in the western countries actually able to get service and warrenty.

[@solomonjenkins9505]

the GTR's acceleration is really good imo it's just the price and build quality that piss me off

[@twelvewingproductions7508]

It was their remote that pissed me off. How is it possible that they made one of the world's best out of the box boards and then coupled it with the industry's worst remote? Unreal.

[@solomonjenkins9505]

@@twelvewingproductions7508 in many ways it is an awesome and innovative remote, they just have a few issues that need fixing. Unfortunately, these issues can be quite dangerous...not sure why they went all blingy and flashy before getting the basics down. And the build quality of both board and remote leave a lot to be desired. The hardware is soft as fuck. The charge port flap is annoying, how hard would it be to have a screw on one? The motors are shite. The esc is shite. A plastic heatsink? Really?

[@twelvewingproductions7508]

@@solomonjenkins9505 Plastic heat sink? On the new one you mean? Mine is aluminum on the early example of the Carbon GT I have. I haven't encountered build quality issues as of yet, but I've seen others where the board de-laminates. The rubber flap cover for the charge port was silly as you pointed out. There are also additional niggles but my main gripe has been with the remote. Even their reworked remote was terrible. Going with a smaller battery? Seriously? And a rounded screen so that now no matter how you hold it you have glare? Just silly choices. And then yes, as you pointed out... the way it did its handshake with the ESC was dangerous. I am actually still using the first generation remote with that board for those very reasons. The "upgraded" remote is actually too dangerous to even use as a back up. I still carry it.. but should I ever have to use it as a back up... I'd not use it to go any faster than 8 miles an hour to get me back to my car or home. I do see that they seem to have fixed the remote on their new board. Perhaps I'll get one of those and do a full on comparison review between the two boards. The focus for my channel and my reviews is on electric mobility... not so much e-skate specifically.

[@waseqk4703]

Dan let me start off by saying that I love your vids and they are super fun and informative at the same time. I mm looking to buy an electric skateboard for the first time and have 0 skating experience. I’m also 115 kgs and was looking at the exway flex riot and the backfire zealot s. I really like the deck on the exway cuz of their look. But the wheels on the backfire are much bigger and the deck is flexier so it’s more safe and comfortable. Will the smaller wheels on the exway flex make it less comfortable/ safe for a noob like me? Also I live in a place with lots of bumps and cracks

[@DanielKwan]

Based on what you’ve shared here, I feel the Backfire would be more appropriate for you.

[@waseqk4703]

@@DanielKwan thanks so much Daniel! Keep up the good work my friend and best of luck

[@anon8079]

Any thoughts on the Halo Board Beast?

[@AGuamsk8er]

I get the feeling that they're trying to squeeze everyone on the first couple batches to recoup development costs and then bring the price down. Not an Evolve fan, but I was kind of looking forward to the Bamboo Hadean. I like the look and was thinking it might cost $2k and be more reliable. Oh well, time to wait on price drop or bamboo Atlas.

[@RSMethodology]

Prices won’t come down until the Hadean 2 drops

[@AGuamsk8er]

@@RSMethodology They dropped the GTR prices in the past due to competition, so it can happen. Either they drop prices or simply fail to compete at $2500-$3000. People with that budget who want performance will opt for a low end Lacroix or a Flux Motion over a Hadean easily. For perspective, a $3000 Flux Motion has 80 miles of range over Hadean's 25 mile range for the same cost, which is shameful. People in the $1500-$2000 range will simply get an Atlas 2wd/Onsra BC2/Eovan etc. Close or better specs for nearly half the cost. Even my Eovan ($1600 board at the time) has an 852Wh battery that exceeds the Hadean significantly, and it has a VESC which is superior for customization.

[@bread12678]

I need you to look at the BKB Duo!!

[@brucexue]

He can't get it…he is living in China it's the pain in the ass to ship anything to China

[@lukedudgeon8699]

They will sell. There are people who are only hobbyist(not enthusiasts) who don't want to build a board. Want more local support and warranty. Just want to show it off. Or other reasons. Se reason people buy a Ferrari. Can build a quicker car cheaper, but people just want to walk in and walk out locally with the product.

[@MaVeRiCk77]

Yeah, nah. That's not the reason someone buys a Ferrari.

[@Siscast]

what are your thoughts on the Miles X Panther?

[@Steven-qm1xo]

I guess you didn't get an offer to review the new Hadean Diablo 😩

[@zerofox641]

2900 is like 4 months rent for me. Hard pass Plenty of more affordable options on the market that are just as good

[@travistravis7190]

Like what?

[@Ian1329]

@@travistravis7190 everything like anything else

[@travistravis7190]

@@Ian1329 to be honest bud, no skateboard should need to go 50kmh. The people that ride these speeds already know its only a matter of time before they are in the hospital ward.

[@robbieschweigert2700]

@@Ian1329 can you send those other boards in for repairs?

[@burned_esc]

did anybody noticed that all the guys from evolve look like crooked cops on a dishonored discharge ? 🤔

[@wilsonmeredith5517]

Review is spot on too many boards out there with similar specs that are way more affordable. I agree with DK, with $3000 I can build a monster DIY or get a KALY NYC.

[@phizicks]

I got an Eovan which is carbon fiber, 6368 3600W motors, 12S4P 21700 panasonic cells and AT and street wheels still, only cost me $2000AUD or around $1600USD

[@antoinepageau8336]

Video suggestion: pick a high end board and price out the individual components as available to you in Shanghai.

[@eboardextrem358]

But yes Evolve comes to Late with this Board and Specs China Brands have this Specs a Long Time.

[@maxdagosti94]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHPFmmuLqKiGgNk😂

[@mrmatistp]

anyone know when can we expect flex 2 ?

[@cuddlestheadorable1153]

i smashed my exway x1 pro remote in a crash. exwash helped me repair it ez. the remote opened up is really simple. i want to invest in a 2wd atlas but i im worried they wont put out a way to upgrade to 4wd for that price just get a entry-level la.Croix, or kaly

[@sharky1854]

nice i have the wave and maybe later il buy the atlas it looks amazing just out of my budget atm

[@cuddlestheadorable1153]

@@sharky1854 i have the for the 2wd rn , just not in a hurry weighing my options.

[@jarydneethling4696]

I think you have a secret man crush on Matty.

[@contorta960]

Not that waste of hair! 😹

[@ramtintashakkor7311]

now THAT"S A REVIEW! great video.

[@dawso2o2]

I’m in Australia if you want help getting one

[@hockingham7160]

Hadean is an awesome board, all you haters need to take one for a ride so you can understand what the deal is, also customer service is the best you are going to get, Period.

[@jamesfarquhar8507]

Come on, Daniel! Whenever you’re ready to take off the kid gloves with hadean I’m here for it.

[@TheLordofdrift]

Looks great! I’ll buy one!

[@artwaresk8electricskateboa575]

Looks like the motor mounts , hangers and baseplates are made of weak casted metal. Is this true ??? If so that is wack @ those price points.

[@tbcreative562]

Are you blocked by a firewall in shanghai? Or do you use a VPN for you youtube channel?

[@brandonbennett9128]

I think the only people who will ever own this board will be the employees of evolve.

[@maxdagosti94]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZ66kqaNrM6Hd8k

[@msulkey]

Dude, you should totally build a version of this board and compare it with this one. Of course cheaper. Perfect video idea. Like you said, you have access to quality parts… Keep up the excellent content!

[@TheTanelChannel]

For me the GTR remote feels the best remote ever made for eskate.. once you get used to it it is so much better then the chinese roll back or fourth remotes. So even if other boards perform a bit better.. a good remote is unbeatable. Also never had any issues with my GTR remote although I do have it in a 3D printed case that makes it a bit bigger and better to hold on to.

[@ALTRON3]

I don’t get it either 😟

[@Pfunkybear]

Do you like it? Will you buy one? Anybody in here have one? I have one in my trolley but haven't clicked buy......due to reviews like this and the £1300 price tag!!

[@vasperknight]

It has some nice specs but the remote is still not ideal. I think you can have all that customization with a phone app. I ordered the 4 wheel drive atlas, so no way I’m jumping for a new board.

[@mechkour36]

Personally, I don’t understand the brand. If it was the same price like the GTR, maybe I got one. But it’s really insane compare to the esk8’s market.. Next, I thought there’ll be more things around that. Like selling more parts for your board or a major’s innovation. Basically they just increase the range, speed, changed the design and the remote. And they are called « Evolve » but I don’t see an evolution at any points and that’s sad. They could have done way more. Chabuduo indeed.

[@maxdagosti94]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHPFmmuLqKiGgNk

[@NatesEscape]

Finally someone that's honest... I can't stand evolve will never buy a board from them after owning a GT with countless problems

[@djstripnyc]

The evolution for any real E-board rider goes like this, 2018 Boosted V2, 2019 Evolve GTR, 2020 KALY/Lacroix. There's no going backwards only looking backwards at guys 10 blocks behind me struggling to keep up when ever I host a group ride still riding slow ass boards with pathetic range!😂

[@EsEm13]

Almost, I went from a GTX to a Boosted V2 and now a Kaly XL50 (with a few others in between) ... and I have kept the Boosted V2, it is still the nicest board I have ever ridden.

[@jlove24]

What’s the best e board in your opinion under 2k