RX4R ACCESS with Frsky X-Lite Pro.

[@MrNams]

Which receiver to use for "FrSky Taranis Q X7 ACCESS"?

[@TweetFPV]

R-xsr is my go to receiver

[@TweetFPV]

Eventually frsky will release thier archer m receiver. That will be a access native 2.4ghz rx. I've had mine preoreded for about 6 months now.

[@MrNams]

@@TweetFPV I am looking for 900Mhz receiver

[@TweetFPV]

Ok, so you already have a r9m2019 module? If so then the r9mm Ota is the one to get.

[@MrNams]

@@TweetFPV Thanks, and I need to buy SBUS to PWM converter too, to use channels to control camera gimbal, servo etc right?

[@spiderspock]

The R-XSR ist now also available

[@lanetteself4176]

Thank you for this video i watched it a few times. I was wondering how many telemetry options you were able to see?. i can only see 4. i am using the same radio and receiver.

[@locomotive282]

Thanks for the info. I really want this radio but I don’t want to be a beta tester.

[@tomsop]

I was hoping to see you acually use ACCESS and fly with it to give impressions - is it any good? To be honest I quickly scrolled to see because I do not care how it gets installed or what to hook up in betaflight if it is not any better than my old gear. It's not your faults - I am waiting for that video to explain why we need this. The marketing from Taranis is horrible.

[@TweetFPV]

I'm still testing the gear. so far i'm about 20 packs in and here is what i think: The range on this receiver is better than any 2.4g rx I've ever used. I can't attribute that to the ACCESS because I don't have much experience with the RX in the ACCST form. I have had no drop outs, or random connection issues. I am no expert pilot but the latency feels very low, but without the proper equipment i have no tangible way to measure this other than by how it feels. Do you NEED this.... Hell NO! In the future the only real advantages i can see with this ACCESS protocol is that you will have the ability to share your model with another person using a ACCESS transmitter with out needing to bind to their gear. Basically you can share your There will be OTA (over the air) updating of receiver settings and firmware from the transmitter. IMO this is the biggest advantage of the ACCESS protocol that i can see. Then there is latency. Frsky has a 9ms latency setting in the firmware but it is only if you use up to 8 channels. For most people flying FPV this is plenty. just for comparison crossfire is about 13-14ms (not my data). Again i have no way to prove that these numbers are real and not marketing wank. The downside of all this is ACCESS and ACCST can not exist at the same time and ACCESS is not backwards compatible. So this means that off brand receiver like the ones in the crazybee boards and the emax stuff for example will probably never have the ability to communicate with a ACCESS transmitter so the need for a multi protocol module will probably be a needed accessory for anyone who has a newer radio that has the ISRM transmitter module. I hope this was useful. If i missed anything please let me know and i'll try and answer.

[@tomsop]

@@TweetFPV Thanks a lot - now I am intrigued. I may have to get this after all.

[@BornIIfly]

Hi TweetFPV, you really need to do a new analyse on this controller. I have it too & flying it with a XM+ receiver. As for the moduls, you could fit different types ; ). But what I haven't managed to do is run it on D8. There is supposed to be a way to do it & actually hoped you would've/could've done it. So I could learn from you to so it myself. Great review & take care.

[@TweetFPV]

Unfortunately there is no way to run the new access radios on d8 without using an external xjt module. You can however run a lot of the spi micros on d16 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nobTi5d_dsifhac

[@BornIIfly]

TweetFPV ahh ok, thought so, thnx for the reply & take care.

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic, man. Thanks a lot! 😊 But now I'm thinking... Do H7s support software inversion? 🤔

[@TweetFPV]

Last thing I heard about f7 is that they do. Not too sure what is the difference between f7 and H7

[@MCsCreations]

@@TweetFPV Yeah, F7s do. H7 I really don't know...

[@andreweberhardt3500]

THANK YOU THANK YOU

[@robmalan7137]

The important info to me is how the new protocol works in comparison to the old in terms of latency, range, and consistency, any thoughts after flying with it?

[@TweetFPV]

After flying it the range seams better even with the antennas in a less that optimal orientation. Rssi seams to be spot on with it being built into ch16. Latency I can't tell. I don't have the equipment to test that. I'm sure drone mesh will eventually do it. He is really good about that stuff but things don't make it to him very quickly. So far I really don't see much of a bennifit of the access protocol. But there may be bigger things going on down the road that need this communication standard.

[@robmalan7137]

TweetFPV thanks for your input, I appreciate it!

[@hallzy426]

Could you mention where you got all the sd card content you have for your xlite pro?? The firmware isn’t even out yet so I’m not sure how you got the sound pack and all that loaded already or I’m just missing something???? Any help would be amazing.

[@TweetFPV]

I typically post little updates to my community posts. You need to be a subscriber to see those. You can find the SD card contents here: www.frsky-rc.com/taranis-x-lite-pro/

[@LeoBNR32]

Great video, looking forward to more X-Lite Pro updates on your channel :) I'm currently waiting on mine to arrive, just hoping FrSky will offer some updates soon. Do you know if with the current firmware multiprotocol modules like Vantac MPM Lite will work?

[@TweetFPV]

I don't know for sure. In my chats with a service rep from frsky he made it sound like no, but I have the vantrch mpm on the way and it should be here by the weekend. I'll be covering that subject for sure.

[@LeoBNR32]

@@TweetFPV Awesome, looking forward to that tho :) Already have the Vantac MPM lite at home, was hoping after hearing there's no update yet for R-XSR I could at least start up my TinyWhoop with the MTM once I got my X-Lite.

[@TweetFPV]

I got my Vantac MPM and I'm sorry to say that it doesn't work. There is no option for "mult" for external rf even with today's fw update. Hopefully they will have the option soon. If I figure it out I will certainly have a update about it.

[@TweetFPV]

But there is a fw for the rxsr now and that does work so there's a little bit of good news!

[@LeoBNR32]

@@TweetFPV Bummer for the MPM at the moment but glad they sorted out the R-XSR. Another thing that came into my mind is the XSR-Sim dongle, any chance you tested that too with the X-Lite Pro?

[@billybbob18]

FR sky pissed me off with what they did with ACCESS. Does anyone actually notice an improvement with the obsolescence protocol?

[@TweetFPV]

I have been running access since day one and it does typically out perform older d16 recievers. Why does it make you mad that they are creating new tech? No one is forcing you to use it, and all your old gear still works just the same as it ever did. The only thing that I don't like about the new breed of radios is the lack of d8 support.

[@hallzy426]

Excellent video. I have the same receiver I bought to use with my lite pro. I’m still having trouble with my SD card data and getting it installed. Don’t really know what I’m doing there and there’s literally NO info out on this thing other then your videos. It’s very frustrating.

[@TweetFPV]

There is a lot about this hobby that is fustrating. I can help you with the process. You can get the SD card contents here: www.frsky-rc.com/taranis-x-lite-pro/ obviously you are going to need a sd card too.

[@hallzy426]

TweetFPV awesome. I did get the content downloaded and I moved it to the sd card with the card in a usb reader. But I still don’t have sounds on the radio but I think I need to follow your setup where you went into the sd card menu and opened the firmware file. Cause when I turn in the xlite it says sd card warning even tho it’s installed and loaded with the FireWire.

[@TweetFPV]

Something sounds wrong. You shouldn't be getting a sd card error. What does the error say?

[@hallzy426]

tweetFVP so it says ( " SD Card Warning" expected ver:2.3v0019 press any key) it looks exactly like the throttle warning startup page but says all that. but the fireware in the menu says the correct version. ican access the sd card content thru the xlite menu and all the contents are in there but I have no sounds on startup or any and I get that warning message on start up

[@TweetFPV]

You must be missing some part of the SD card contents. I would format the card again, re download everything and put it all in the root of the SD card. Also I'm not sure if it will make a difference or not but make sure you can see hidden files.

[@SAIFYALVARO]

can xlite pro be installed with a multiprotocol module? so that it can be used for the bayang protocol

[@TweetFPV]

As of right now it can not use a multi protocol module. I will get that functionality eventually.

[@SAIFYALVARO]

@@TweetFPV thank you the answer, luckily i haven't bought it hehe

[@HDgodfrey]

They have access firmware for rxsr on their website. Does it not work?

[@TweetFPV]

The didn't have fw for the r-xsr when this video was recorded. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6qqh4Okir6ii6s

[@muesame]

Hi, I have a Taranis X9 Lite, there is no "ISRM" mode to select, only Access and ACCST D16. Is it even possible to use this transmitter with the RX4R? Thanks!

[@TweetFPV]

Isrm mode is access. Yes you can use it with the rx4r in either accst d16 mode or access. It all depends on which fw you have flashed to the receiver.

[@muesame]

@@TweetFPV I did like in your video, flashed the newest software. But it wont connect with either access or accst d16 mode

[@TweetFPV]

Its only going to work on one mode or the other depending on the fw. Which fw did you flash? Also the fw on the radio also needs to be updated to match.

[@muesame]

@@TweetFPV I flashed "FW-ACCESS-RX4R-v2.1.0" - the newest. Thanks a lot for your help.

[@TweetFPV]

Ok then you also need to flash the isrm fw for your radio of the same version

[@cieku32]

Is there support for installing the TBS Crossfire module?

[@TweetFPV]

In the latest nightly builds of opentx there is a option for crossfire. I have no way of confirming if this actually works or not. External modules like the Vantac mpm do work. They aren't super reliable yet but they do work. Nightly builds are very buggy and should only be used for testing and development purposes.

[@blackmennewstyle]

I'm honestly not convinced by this new process of register and then binding, for me binding should be able to allow to register at the same time and saved you some time. But i like the idea of being able to rename the receiver :) Inverted/uninverted smartport is not a big deal, just remap and use softserial on your FC and you will be able to inverted/uninverted using the CLI command tlm_inverted Have a great week and keep it up the great job!

[@TweetFPV]

Yea, I'm not too sure what the point is of this new process. But I guess there has to be some way to trigger the rx to associate with a TX. I can't wait to see what frsky has up thier sleeve for this stuff.

[@brandonwoodford579]

Rx4r is my favorite 2.4ghz. Even better than the r9mm imo

[@TweetFPV]

Why do you like it so much?

[@whiffles]

Can you register without pressing the bind button or does the ACCESS auto bind only work once the receiver has been registered to the radio?

[@TweetFPV]

You need to push the button to register the rx. Once that is done the bind can be done without pushing the buttons.

[@whiffles]

@@TweetFPV Bummer, I was hoping we wouldn't have to use the bind buttons anymore.

[@TweetFPV]

Yea, me too. Not sure what the advantage of the access stuff is. I'm hoping this is going to be a way forward for frsky to do Ota firmware and settings changes.

[@whiffles]

@@TweetFPV OTA firmware updates would be great. They seem to say this will be possible, so I guess we'll just have to see.

[@danlatu209]

www.frsky-rc.com/wp-content/uploads/Downloads/Firmware/R-XSR/FW-RXSR_ACCESS_v1.1.1.zip Have you tried Fport? If so how does access compare?

[@TweetFPV]

I have used f-port before but i have not used it with ACCESS yet. Its on my list of things to do for sure!

[@ktmjay9920]

What. Never even heard of new firmware. Hopefully it will be good, seems to change really fast . Makes me like crossfire more and more.

[@TweetFPV]

crossfire is good but you still need a radio to make crossfire work. Hopefully this will give people more options to fit their flying style and had shape.

[@ktmjay9920]

Need to improve updating firmware.

[@CharlesLittleChad]

The size of the RX4R is not as bad as it looks in this video...The version of the RX4R you show here has a lot of unnecessary x/tra stuff on it as it is the "with pins" version. I sell the bare-bones/un-pinned version of the RX4R here at Boulder MultiRotor LLC / bouldermultirotor.com which you can find for sale here: bouldermultirotor.com/product/frsky-rx4r-recei…els-without-pins/ and it's actually much smaller than you might think!...the reason for this is that you don't need the pins, the smartport harness/connector, the foam pad, or the cardboard/paper input/output labels cover. All you need is the RX4R directly soldered and maybe a little thin piece of clear heatshrink. Anyway, I thought this might be important to mention since for most FPV pilots, size does matter :) Also, one other thing...the video mentions that the R9M-Lite module will eventually work with the X-Lite Pro but I don't believe this is correct. Especially since Frsky just released a new version of external module for the X-Lite Pro called the "R9M Lite Pro" with the following description: "The R9M Lite Pro is the upgraded 900MHz Lite module. It has a high-speed digital interface, supports up to 1W RF power, and is fully encased in a CNC aluminum protective shell which also aids in heat dissipation when using high RF power. Designed with the new ACCESS firmware, it also supports spectrum analyzer functions. The module is perfectly compatible with FrSky new ACCESS radios like Taranis X-Lite PRO and X9 Lite." Here is a link to their website for this new product: www.frsky-rc.com/product/r9m-lite-pro/?.com&EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_02_12_COPY_01&mc_cid=c00c2dffc0&mc_eid=ac2057c26e Frsky does currently have new ACCESS firmware for the RX4R, RX6R, G-RX6, and G-RX8 and they will eventually release new ACCESS compatible firmware for the following older receivers: RXSR, XM, XM Plus, RX8R Pro, plus I imagine a whole new line of ACCESS compatible receivers will be created since this is the direction they are headed. I'm glad they are finally jumping onboard with great features (that the TBS Crossfire already has) like OTA (Over The Air updates/firmware) and digital interface! Anyway, great video! Thanks for providing mostly accurate information (I do realize that some of the updated info I mentioned came out after the release of your video) and great step-by-step instructions for updating the RX4R to be compatible with the new X-Lite Pro!

[@ob1_kb]

you need to make some "clickbait" type of title about this i bet it would get plenty of views!!!! Idk soimething like FRSKY XLITE PRO NOT READY FOR PRIMETIME??

[@TweetFPV]

Yea I though about that, but when I see other you tubers do that I always think "that's a stupid clickbait title" I just don't want to be "that guy"

[@ob1_kb]

I understand but your only THAT guy if you do it ALL of the time for EVERY video. It's ok to do it now and then and just preface the video with a quick confession of the clickbait but then proceed to tell the audience why you thought this was important to get out to everyone.