The Biggest SCAM in Pest Control - Termite Bait Stations

[@DanTheBugMan]

Thanks for watching everyone! Let me know your experience with Liquids Vs Baits in the comments down below... I am looking forward to the debates :) Please let me know if you have any questions about what I discussed -Dan

[@jkdm7653]

Dan, how long is ground spray effective for termite control? Is it's effectiveness degraded by weather(rain, snow, etc.)?

[@timhanjian]

​@@jkdm7653the best Liquid treatments are done with NON REPELLENT TERMITICIDES!Most of them should last about 8-12 year depending on the weather and moisture around the areas of treatment!

[@regbrown6389]

Interesting watching from Australia as a licenced technician. Inground bait stations cost way more than liquid treatment here. I would be interested in comparing prices

[@JustinHalliday-p5l]

Have you ever used the termidor wsg? I believe it's granules... Thinking about using for crawl spaces ....

[@JustinHalliday-p5l]

​@@jkdm7653yes sunlight and heavy rain slowly degrade product in topsoil. Should be refreshed ( injected/ trenched every 5 to ten years for proper protection

[@stephannagy657]

Hey Dan---I like your videos and watch them often. I have been in the pest control industry for over 25 years and have owned my own pest control business for over 12 years now. My pest control business specializes in using environmentally safe products like botanical oils (Nature-Cide) combined with other natural derived products (Intice 10 insect granular bait) etc. Termite bait stations are really the only environmentally safe option to customers who wish to continue with "Green Options". I do require using chemical treatments in extreme situations including termite liquid treatments for an active infestation, inner wall injections and other hard to install bait station areas when needed and limited. There is a place for using termite bait stations like properties that have Wells, nearby creeks or natural waterways that the label restricts or limits use of a liquid treatment. Liquid treatments can not be applied in areas where a dog or children dig up soil next to a home or treated area, continued landscaping or planting of flowers that humans can contact the treated soil, areas next to a home that may contain a garden or edible plants/herbs, soil around a home that has barriers to prevent the liquid from working properly, slabs that can not be drilled successfully---drilled holes that will not take liquid treatment---causing damage to slabs/tile/brick that customers get upset about....there are many other reasons why a liquid treatment may not work, are restricted to apply per label. Many customer ask for a environmentally, safer options that termite bait stations can provide in the prevention and elimination of termites without killing off other beneficial insects, human and pet contact with treated soil, contaminating the soil and wells on the property. I have also had, in my experience, many questions about liquid treatments...." Will the chemical leach into the water table as we have a well?"...."If you (the pest control business) claim that your initial termite liquid treatment will last for 5 years plus...., then why do you not guarantee the treatment for 5 years plus instead of me (the customer) having to pay a continued Annual Inspection which extends the guarantee?" "If you did the initial termite liquid treatment successfully, why don't you back it with a guarantee for 5 plus years?" I will say my customers using the termite bait stations that I charge $60 per station to install plus the required Annual Inspection & Service in maintaining the bait stations of $30 per station is very appealing when they see me inspect and monitor for termite activity, remount a station if needed, replace any bait needed (Trelona contains active bait killing termites 24/7) for the annual money they are paying. To them, this looks and sounds better than paying someone who claimed that liquid termite treatments are less expensive to apply initially, will last 5 plus years BUT we only guarantee it for 1 year. with an option of you (the customer) paying us for an annual inspection that extends the guarantee that we won't include in the initial treatment plus all we do is look around to make sure the termite treatment we did is working which it should since you made the claim it would last for many years. That sounds like a SCAM to many customers. Just some FYI to think about. Termite Bait Stations do have their place and customer demand so don't rule out the option in using them as a means to treat for termites besides just liquid treatments.

[@DBFOutdoors]

Company I work for we do both when the client has issues with termites and by itself as a preventative service. I have seen 0 issues with the homes that have these alone as a preventative service.

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

Termites as a whole species are dying because of how effective Termidor is and it’s only been out for 2 decades Bait stations are a revenue maker your customers only need the liquid tbh

[@jonathanhutchinson6669]

@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suitdude. That is actual rubbish.

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

@@jonathanhutchinson6669look up insect populations and their decline if you don’t believe me Termites on the other hand are not public knowledge we use to do 100+ treatments per year now we do a dozen or so per year They’re population is clearly declining atleast in suburban areas

[@DanTheBugMan]

@DBFOutdoors Yea they work over time! I never said they didnt work over time, pest companies just charge sooo much for them and they don't work quickly

[@DBFOutdoors]

@@DanTheBugMan I do agree $200-400 for a one time service a year is a lot

[@jonathanhutchinson6669]

Look at us a bunch of f’kn nerds getting mad over the best way to kill bugs😂 I

[@Thatshorrorible]

hahaha, that's pretty funny.

[@johnyee8800]

I live in Ohio. I nearly got scam by my pest control company that I was with for about 4 years. They wanted to charge me $1500 to install the Sentricon bait stations around my 1250sqft home. This was a "discounted" price also since I was already a customer. Plus $60 per month for 2 years for the warranty ( He did not mentioned this. I just happened to have read it.). They used several scare tactics to get me to sign. Such as "the house down the street needed $30K in termite damage repair". I ended up signing but after thinking about it overnight and doing a little research I canceled the contract the next day ( had a 3 day cancel window). In fact I completely canceled all my pest services from them. I ended up DIYing it with trenching and using a 78oz bottle of Taurus SC for $100. It was back breaking and time consuming but well worth it.

[@TitanRaider23]

Doing the trench now. 3 more sides to more sides to get through

[@DanTheBugMan]

@johnyee8800 $60 per month is so much!! That's great to hear! Thanks for watching

[@michaelmerck7576]

I had a house need 30000 dollar repair due to no termites finding the stations fir 2 years but managed to be under a rock about 3 inches from the garage

[@beth2890]

Exact same spiel from my guy in Virginia. "a "discounted" price also since I was already a customer." $200 off $1,000. Elderly and on a fixed income. SHAME in those guys

[@Nightmare_13]

I was quoted 1700 to start and $62 a month by a major pest control company last Friday

[@gr8fulnbama439]

I cant believe you guys would take his word for it. He has a video on a liquid treatment on a house with active termitres and he doenst drill the patios that are connected to the house. He claimed he followed state laws, I cant think of one state that would allow a company to put a house on contract without a full treatment Most of all Dan is being paid by Control Solutions, thats why he always mentions Taurus and not Termindor SE and you can forget about him talking about Termindor HE, which is a better product because Control Solutions doesn't make it yet

[@seanjants2881]

​@Give_us_the_emo_shit_Jarren it's called auto correct lol . He's kinda right though . Termidor HE is a FAR superior product to taurus sc .

[@seanjants2881]

@Give_us_the_emo_shit_Jarren I didn't know he was sponsored by them . I've stopped using taurus , it makes no sense on termites with better liquid products available. And with ants there is better ,cheaper and less restrictive products on the market

[@gr8fulnbama439]

​@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit 23 years with pest and termite control. Hey Dan is this you?😂

[@DanTheBugMan]

@gr8fulnbama439 Taurus and Termidor are very similar products. Termidor just marks their prices up because they can. Drilling patios is such an old school thing haha! In my opinion, drilling is not necessary. especially if you just treat around the porch. Taurus and Termidor both eliminate the colony so there's no point in drilling everything! I am 100% compliant with state laws. I talk to my Ag inspector every week! :) you know Termidor and Taurus have the exact same active ingredient??

[@freespirit1975]

​@@DanTheBugMan I don't think they have the EXACT same ingredient, but it is close enough that Bayer sued Control Solutions but didn't win the lawsuit. The reason I say this is that 16 years ago, that large company that starts with a "T" trenched my house for termites and I helped the tech. The contract I signed said "Termidor SC". That solution had a sweet, kind of pleasant odor (this is also how it is described on the MSDS for Taurus SC). That solution killed two active termite infestations on my house. It was so non-repellent that the termites brought the mud we treated inside the wall for tube construction and two days later I started smelling the chemical in the bedroom. Two days later the smell went away and they were dead. This past month my son and I finished trenching my house again as a preventative treatment since it had been 16 years and I was sure the chemical was now defunct. So instead of paying the T company over $400 a year again to maintain the contract for a tech to walk around my house once a year and stare at the clouds and ANYTHING else besides look at the ground at the base of my brick fascia where they should (I watched them and complained and they still did a worthless job), I purchased Termidor SC for about the same cost and we did it all ourselves. Here's the thing, the Termidor SC HAS NO ODOR, and it is actually described as "odorless" on the MSDS for Termidor SC. Therefore, I think the "T" company charged me for Termidor SC and gave me cheaper Taurus SC based on the fact that it had that odor. Again, I will say that the Taurus worked so it is an effective chemical. I believe that Taurus and Termidor are SO close to being the same chemical that they may both work equally well, which is probably why the lawsuit happened. I took Organic Chemistry in college and my theory is that Taurus is what chemists call a "stereoisomer" of Termidor. A stereoisomer is the exact same chemical structure but it is a mirror image and can work the same way. Stereoisomers CAN have some unique qualities that its mirror image doesn't have, for example an odor that the other doesn't have. As matter of fact many of the chemicals being sold as generic Viagra are probably mirror image stereoisomers. Finally, I still have bait stations (empty, without bait or wood) around my house from 16 years ago. At that time, I killed an infestation outside another bedroom, but on the other side of my house they were inside the wall of my kitchen BEFORE they finally hit one of my bait stations, and I had even put them FIVE feet apart, twice the 10 foot frequency recommended. So, I don't trust bait stations. I panicked then and called the T company. Trenching and flooding is the way to go, but professional companies don't want to do it anymore because it is BACKBREAKING work hand digging with a mattock and you can't get a powered trencher beside a house's exterior wall. Also, we DIY'rs can NOT get our hands on the injection tool (proprietary?) used for Termidor's new HE version. But, I'm not sure it would be effectively injected in heavy prairie clay like I have anyway.

[@susancadis]

I did my homework before contacting a pest guy. Every one of them tried to sell me the subscription service, AND anything they planned on doing was a poor excuse for proper coverage. I ended up doing it myself, and now I know I am covered. Thanks for confirming the big pest companies are just to take your money.

[@derekmacieski3992]

My mother who is a widow on a very fixed income had termites. I with the help of your video used the Taurus SC. With no skill level or abilities of any kind trenched around the house and eliminated the termites in I swear 3 days they were gone.

[@louchacon9074]

I hope the water well is not inside the house perimeter..!

[@farnoushreshadi6547]

How did you know if they were gone? just curious coz I can't see them but I see their frass

[@Kuuterr]

Termites leaves pheromones. You may have killed the colony this year but, they will be back. A swarm will sense the pheromones and come back in the future.

[@GrimmJaw671]

​@@KuuterrTaurus SC lasts for about 10 years. Longevity degrades in wetter climates but even so, in heavy rain area's you're looking at re-treating every 5 years to be safe. Which is what we recommend in the company I work for given the place I stay...

[@GrimmJaw671]

​@@farnoushreshadi6547If you see frass that means it's drywood termites. Fumigation is the only option if you want to save infested wood items, and if its not done right it'll hurt the wallet to re-treat with an already pricey option. Cheapest option is remove and replace... The exception is if it's valuable/sentimental

[@PrimeSolutionsTX]

You are going to ruffle some feathers with this one. I'll get the popcorn...

[@DanTheBugMan]

🍿 ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED ? 🍿

[@Jane-qp4mo]

Dan, per Florida Statute, if a chemical liquid treatment is used, after refill of the soil, a 6ml plastic covering must be placed over the soil to preserve against rainfall. Is this common?

[@gjnelsonandco]

We have these around our house and have had no issues for 10 years. BUT thanks to this video, I want to buy the stations and replace theirs with mine to save money. We'll still have a termite inspection every year by a professional but I want to maintain the stations myself. Can you advise what to look for each year when I inspect my stations? And can you tell me how often I will have to change the "goo" in the stations? Great video!

[@surinkim11]

I have a rental house which was built in last year. I got a call from a termite company saying they placed termite base stations and now need to have maintenance service for $360 per year. if I choose not to have the service, they said they will remove the base stations. I just wanted to check and research and I come across with your KZbin. And I am glad I checked it Your information was exactly what I wanted to know! Thank you so much!

[@flatbrokegarage]

Great video! We had these when we bought our house. They contacted us and wanted to renew our subscription with them. They were going to cut us a "deal" and only charge us $790 to "update" our stations. Som simple searching on Google tells you the price to fill our traps is $70 from Amazon 😅 I told him he could leave

[@markrivas8258]

Wow. I never knew! Dan, I rent a large home built in the last 4 years. My landlord doesn't provide pest maintenance, I haven't seen any issues. Would you recommend a pest inspection before paying for regular maintenance, or how do I not get ripped off?

[@gregoryalves5436]

No. Dont waste a dime unless you see a problem. Just incase you didnt know too, any ant peoblem is easily fixable w $6 ant baits at publix

[@DanTheBugMan]

Thanks for watching! Your landlord should be responsible for normal pests like ants, mice, spiders, etc.

[@Kuntios]

Hey Dan. I have ants in my basement. I see them coming out from tiny hole and I put a caulking. Can ants destroy house foundations?

[@DanTheBugMan]

Nope!

[@Campbish10]

Man said “reoccurring revenue is the best way to have a successful business” then turned around and said “sentricon is the worst and should be illegal” because they want reoccurring revenue from him…

[@DanTheBugMan]

@Campbish10 Hahaha Shhhhhh they are different!! Sentricon is recurring revenue from minimal service

[@michaelmerck7576]

He is correct on both accounts

[@Rollscabsbreakgamblers]

​@DanTheBugMan but with liquid you still have recurring revenue from the yearly warranty where you only do an inspection vs bait where they do an inspection and check the stations for activity to see if the bait needs to be replaced.

[@pike54545454]

​@@DanTheBugMan if you're claiming Taurus, as yes the label says br will last 10 years, why do most companies do boosters at 5? Or 7 at most? Why do so many professionals not trust the label?

[@christopher-xi2ey]

​@@Rollscabsbreakgamblers and retreat every 10 years

[@R5MindsetWealth]

Thanks... I was just wondering if I need them.

[@Loni-044]

Hi Dan. I live in Australia. What product do we have that is as good as Taurus SC and Borecare? We have products like Termidor. I’m not really sure what to use? What do you recommend? Thanks, Leonie.

[@skyblue1122]

Hello Dan, is it true new construction house already went through termite liquid pretreatment? My house was built in last quarter of 2018 by Taylor Morrison, it came with one year of free bait station which was later removed. Anyway, I sign up with another company 2 years ago, the initial installation is $350 and $75 quarterly for monitoring the bait station. There are 12 bait stations, the house is 3345 sq ft. Technician came yesterday, 5 minutes later he’s done. I have a camera footage of him taking out one of the bait look at it for 1 second then put it right back, I don’t know if he had inspected all the stations. Glad that I come across your video because previous research I have done all suggest bait station is worth it and Atlanta is at higher risk of termite infestation. There is no termite currently in my house, I signed up for the service as preventative measure. I’m thinking about cancel and go with liquid treatment few years down the road.

[@grimeybeast1465]

Full disclosure, according to the department of Ag, a liquid treatment lasts up to 10 years before needing another restorative treatment. Its' still 60-70% cheaper over the course of that ten year period than maintaining a bait system.

[@termitesarenotgoodforhomes]

Yes. As long as you don't have any shrubs growing near the side of your home in the meantime.

[@jimfields9491]

10 years for Termidor or its imitators. Premise 75 and its generics 3-5 years with a good overhang because it will re emulsify in a heavy rain.

[@ExpVladimir]

the longer I'm in pest control the more I learn pest control is a scam. 90% of homeowners have pest because they are to lazy to clean up after themselves.

[@Solidreds]

Depends where you live. I live in florida and If my home isn’t treated I notice 10x the amount of pests.

[@plzifan3773]

what? part of IPM is helping your customers with education and prevention

[@jamesburkhart6809]

That's not the case with drywood termites.....impossible to stop in Hawaii.....only periodic tenting can eradicate

[@michelledowns6718]

Miss information!

[@natorsi]

That or there is uncontrolled water/humidity. Or horrible neighbors.

[@ReadTheBible33]

What's hilarious is I'm looking at the trolona and sentracom stations at a customer's house right this moment. They have both.

[@BrandeeWilder]

Hi! Thank you so much for this awesome video! I recently (2 months ago) decided not to renew my bait station subscription ($389 year) and they did actually come back and get the bait stations now I have holes all around my yard. They were the black bait station you showed. I came here to find out what I should do about the holes and if then being there will actually encourage termite activity and to see what I needed to do instead of the bait stations (I have that answer now because of you). Now I need to know do I buy the stations myself to fill the holes, buy filler dirt or what?

[@lovealwaysjasmine]

what did you end up doing?

[@lilyseestheworld7865]

Thanks so much for your advice. I don't want to troll but I have a legitimate question. Want to keep bees and have a vegetable garden right next to my house. How do I avoid the Fipronil or trenching with soil treatment. As far as I understand bait stations with poison cartridges are the only way for me, right? Cos I did some research the liquid treatment except they are in the wall WILL affect the bees and other beneficial bugs (I cant afford that). I am not even mentioning poison in the soil and hence the food. Please help if you have an idea. I bought the stations already to install them DIY. Thanks in advance.

[@jonathanhutchinson6669]

I understand where you’re coming from…but I do termite inspections for a living and I find a lot more termites in homes with liquid treatment than I do baiting systems. (Personally) Also a lot of professional companies will use an above ground stations for active infestations. I do disagree with this video…but I see where you’re coming from.

[@jonathanhutchinson6669]

@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit A lot of companies don’t use Termidor. Even if they do, there is no guarantee they are going to mix it properly to the right ratio, or apply it properly throughout the entire home. It’s VERY easy to cut corners, and almost impossible for an ignorant customer to detect.

[@jonathanhutchinson6669]

@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit I agree! But, Not everyone hires a mom and Pop,most people don’t know any better. and I’m not talking about them anyway. I’m talking about big companies with huge advertisements that cut corners and lowball. Sadly, where I am, that is the prevailing business practice..with not all, but a lot of termite treatments.

[@DanTheBugMan]

Thanks for your honesty! Yes you have to use an above ground station for fast results. Do you use above ground stations?

[@jonathanhutchinson6669]

@@DanTheBugMan Yeah AG packs are pretty dope, I’ve seen pretty awsome results with them. I agree with your point that pest control companies charge too much for them about 50/50. It really just depends on what kind of warranty the baiting system comes with. If we’re talking unlimited damage repair and free retreats upon new damage…yeah I think it’s worth 1200-1400 depending on the size of the home. If your warranty is crap, really any termite service is a risk. There is never such a thing as 100% risk free from termites in my opinion. Baiting or liquid. You were however wrong about wood being in stations. It’s not wood, but pure cellulose infused with noviflumuron. I’d love to elaborate more on the science on why the are effective, but I’m sure you have done your research and have developed your own opinion based off of that.

[@MacoyCafe]

​@@jonathanhutchinson6669cellulose is wood 👍

[@Armando1228]

Amen brother 18 years here in the industry and bait stations are a complete sham!! Good for you !!

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

10 years here i used to live in a townhome and I found active termites on my neighbors unit 1.5 months after Sentricon was installed by my competitor btw And my dads been doing this 40 years he’s found active termites dozens of times on houses w/ bait stations

[@JohnDarling-sp4mq]

Absolutely loved the video, and have a suggestion about `how to do something no one else is doing I won't post here. one question--iwhen termites find your home--do they just go to your house to eat, and are they not even looking for food anywhere else?

[@JerzeyDude2000]

3 years ago I had termite swarmers around my back patio door and inside my home. The exterminator drill some holes on my concrete patio floor and spray Termidor HE liquid into them. They also treated around my front door patio too. But then they install the Sentricon bait stations. Initial cost was just $830 for the liquid treatment and bait stations. Once a year they will come to check the termite bait stations and charge $330 each time. Each time they didn't replace the bait with new one and didn't find any termite activity. I became skeptical this year on how effective are they checking for termites. They don't go into my basement to check or poke around. They only check the bait stations. So I decided to cancel the protection plan. What's your opinion on Termidor HE liquid? Is it good as Taurus SC you mentioned? I heard both only last 10 years.

[@jonallison69]

You should have kept the bait stations. A recent study showed that a 12 year old sentricon bait successfully eradicated a termite colony. Only $330 for an entire years worth of protection is a good deal. I can’t tell you if that particular pest control company was running any scams or not but sentricon works.

[@justinnewby3834]

They both use the same exact active ingredient. This guy just gets paid to promote, or is very opinionated on his experience. Not every pest situation is the same, and I would agree that bait stations are not for every situation. I would also agree that bait stations are not a stand alone treatment. However, to say that termite bait stations are a scam is ridiculous. 😂 Bravo for making a bold claim and causing ripples for likes. Termidor is a great product. Good luck, Dan the bug man!

[@sherrynowlin7653]

I was quoted yesterday over $1500 for bait station installment with initial spraying and then $300 annually after the first year. Orkin. I will do my own treatment.

[@wandayonder9772]

You make some interesting points. Two that I would add, from a homeowner's perspective: 1. A lot of us don't have a lazy $3000 or more for liquid treatment. So what do we do? 2. I see termite activity in my yard and want to put bait stations myself near those spots to kill off some colonies. No company is ripping me off. Why is that not okay?

[@MMCS87]

There is so much science and studies that back up stations. The problem is the when they aren’t checked correctly. Those stations destroy the entire colony.

[@xkben90]

Just watched the whole video, and from my memory, he never said that the bait stations didn’t work. He was saying that there is no guarantee WHEN THEY will work, In which the official statement said it takes “up to a year” for bait stations versus “up to 30 days” for the liquid method. It seemed he was more against the fact that companies offering the bait stations make you feel as if you must renew the subscription (re bait) in order for you to be free. But even then, he said it’s not a guarantee because of how long it can take to work.

[@gr8fulnbama439]

Exactly, they can also transfer the bait to colony in distances closer to 400 feet. Entomologist believes that nymphs may survive a Termindor treatment even though all the adult termites are dead

[@DanTheBugMan]

@MMCS87 I never said they didn't work... it just takes so long

[@DanTheBugMan]

@MMCS87 Yes I agree! They will destroy the colony when the termites get to them. That's why it's important to come in contact with the colony as quickly as possible. Do you use the above ground bait stations?

[@michaelmerck7576]

Too bad they don't really work .I've seen them fail many times

[@Hitstrekker]

Great Video, definitely worth watching and sharing. Thanks and hi from Australia.

[@josephl8765]

Wouldn't the yearly renewal of the bait stations be worth it for the warranty alone? That was basically the reason I renewed mine, through Terminix, after 1 year on our new-build home. Trying to decide if I should renew again when it comes up in a couple months but the warranty is what gives me piece of mind.

[@Lsutiger225]

Same here warranty out weighs the cost of a termite infestation in my opinion

[@empsol123]

I live on Long Island NY and have been commercial applicator since 2008. Now I have no beef whatsoever with your video. For me personally, I do more servicing of Advance termite bait stations from previous exterminators who no longer do the service for whatever their reason may be. I do more of the Advance termite bait station than chemical barrier treatments. Again, personally I tell my customer the entire shpeel on different ways of managing their termite issue, but more times than not it comes down to dollars and cents with them. I am not a pushy used car salesman, so explaining their options, and allowing them to decide what fits their budget generally works for me, and of course there have been times where I have chosen to walk away from certain situations that were counter-productive to running a legitimate business. I like your videos, keep up the great work.

[@kbdirtleg3862]

Do you go back out and reinstall liquid if they change landscaping and dig up the liquid barrier. How many gallons of chemical do you have to put in the ground on an average house?

[@kbdirtleg3862]

Do you go back out and reinstall liquid if they change landscaping and dig up the liquid barrier.

[@MacoyCafe]

Awesome video brother! Thanks for doing your part in making people's lives better.

[@EricAu-mq7hc]

Dan, I have a termite problem in Hawaii. Any suggestions or, is it possible for myself to treat my property?

[@heitorq7795]

I've been in pest control for 24 years and this video is very accurate. Hire this guy if he is in your town. We need honesty in the industry.

[@thomasmoore2604]

What's your damage warranty that catchy pest provides for your liquid service?

[@Thatshorrorible]

I have some termites eating an old stump in the middle of my lawn. Last, week, two of the larger companies quoted me $2170 and $1295 each for a year service with the Sentricon baiting system, and then the following year was $1200 and $450 and each year afterwards. They check on the stations once a year. I was like, I am paying you that much for you to come out once a year and check on them. I just called a smaller company today that was $800 the first year with the Advanced Baiting System and $200 each year after with a bi-yearly check on the stations. I did inquire if they spray around the foundation as an additional barrier. They said, they do not spray outside anymore and that it was the old way of doing it unless they were in my house then they would drill and spray into the wood. After watching your video, you have me second guessing going this route.

[@sandiegojoey1]

My house is on a raised foundation and the perimeter of my house is all concrete. Seems like my only treatment option is to crawl under the house and use liquid?

[@Blade_625]

So what do you do in the event that concrete is around the perimeter of the home?

[@michaelkayan3856]

Great video, Dan. Very persuasive argument. Keep up the good work!

[@DanTheBugMan]

Thank you!!!

[@karmatologist]

My pest control company was going to charge $300 annually after the $900 initial install. No termites yet but I wanted to do it as a preventative. I canceled and they told me they would be by the house sometime to get the bait stations. What do you recommend as the best line of DIY preventative treatment?

[@notme8121]

Sounds good. I live in FL. Just found drywood termites in my attic. What would u recommend?

[@swaky5138]

Gasoline and matches....

[@1dragonx76]

I have the spectazide stakes. Two popped, after checking I did not see any termites. It looks as if they popped after getting wet and the connector that holds them down deteriorated away for a few months of being in the ground.

[@daniellascaris4533]

Dan, I saw a video of yours you recorded 2 years ago and you said these termite statios works well. Now you said the opposite. I'm really confused for what you said on this video. Thanks

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[@enriqueperezarce5485]

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[@MechInvent]

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[@jonallison69]

Use sentricon, they work. Don’t use other bait stations, they don’t work. Stick with sentricon.

[@FATBOY5539]

Been using sentricon for 10+ years never had an issue. Also the most sustainable systems on the market, but definitely dump 100s of gallons in the soil and it still not be 100% effective.

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

That’s crazy cuz the average Liquid termiticide treatment only takes 25-33 gallons of chemical Not hundreds lol keep guessing tho

[@michaelmerck7576]

​@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit2 gallons per 10 ft says that don't add up

[@jonathanhutchinson6669]

If we do the math let’s say the avg ln ft. Per home is 170 ln feet . Just to be safe we would divide 170 by 10 that gives us 17 then multiply that by 2 that’s 34 gallons. Depending on how many houses you treat that’s. “Hundreds of gallons”

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

@@jonathanhutchinson6669 yea and you can’t control how much chemical The soil will take so you might mix up 33-36 gallons but the soil only accepts 25

[@jonathanhutchinson6669]

@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit Correct.

[@DigitalDubyaa]

Where's your PPE while touching active termite bait stations?

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

He left it with your mother Karen

[@mrcordell865]

The bait is nontoxic, his dirty hands might contaminate the bait if anything

[@DanTheBugMan]

@mrcordell865 Hey my hands are not dirty!!!! HAHAHA

[@michaelmerck7576]

You don't need any .the stations don't have any bait in them until active termites are found eating the wood stakes

[@connielahman5725]

Thanks so much for an awesome video.I don’t think I have termite issues but thought I might get an inspection for peace of mind.I am thinking now I should probably find a company in northern Ca that treats with the Taurus SC and I’m safe and protected for 20 years .would you agree on being proactive in having house sprayed even if no termites for protection?

[@stewartnavarre7545]

Dan, Question - in one of the videos you recommend Termidor. in another you recommend Taurus. Please advise. I am ready to buy and treat. Thanks.

[@chriss5470]

It's the same active chemical. Both are great

[@chrisprice279]

So I have termites on some of my trees and plants on my yard, but no evidence on the house. Would it be a good idea to install my own bait? And just check them every few months?

[@St7ckTheWorld]

If I dont put enough chemical due to measurement error less than 10 lineal feet should I be concerned?

[@SandraBillingsley-bu7dj]

Thank you bc I was xo clisé to do that now we all the inf you put in doing it my self , God Bless you for being truthful w your information 🙏🤩♥️

[@newjerseyray]

Dan, what are your thoughts on 'BIOADVANCED Termite Killer granules'? are they a good yearly treatment alternative to the liquid?

[@FlutersGarage]

Does Tirade Ultra SC work as good as the Taurus Sc? This company that contacted me want to charge me 2000$.

[@fayk.2278]

I got a quote for 1200. I bought a huge Taurus sc and dug around my house myself!!!! 10 years of protection! $100.00 bucks and done

[@haroldrodriguez5952]

Not really.

[@DanTheBugMan]

YES!!! Very Nice. It's not rocket science

[@landysok90]

I work at northwest exterminating and yes, termite stations do work but we just charge an arm and leg because we know you need it and you need it to sell a home here in the south. Then we charge you every 3 months to have someone come "check" on it when we all know it'll last 7 years.

[@nancydrew5]

16:03 is where you hear what is effective and budget friendly for killing termite colonies. Most of the first half of the video is repeated bashing of the tubular termite baits, that termites may or even go for.

[@SonicBoomC98]

A lot of what you pay up front is setup fees and labor. Most people aren't going to do the work of doing their own termite and pest control.

[@jewelbell5]

Thank you, I've been reluctant to renew my yearly termite protection, they use the sentricon stations.

[@cheryl814]

Do termites make a knocking sound inside the walls of a home Thank you

[@Jason-um3tz]

No

[@jordangarber9803]

U had a video about liquid treatment vs bait stations and u said if professionally done right they both work great

[@vekcorpestsolutions853]

you really don't know what your talking about, yes a soil treatment BY far is the best treatment, BUT even if a soil treatment is done 100% correctly it still does NOT 100% protect the home, Bait station are a 2nd line of defense, when a soil treatment is done even using the best product on the market at the highest rate lets say Termidor H.E. or Fuse they break down over time and if your lucky you can only treat about 10% of the home, because THE BEST TREATMENT FOR SUBS IS A PRE-TREATMENT, yes the soil treatment takes care of the current problem most times but still not 100% all the time NOTHING is 100%, but for subterrain termites On average, there could be as many as 13 to 14 termite colonies, one million in each colony, per acre of land.....and there is only 1 colony attacking the structure at that time, so when a home owner owns a home that worth hundreds of thousands of dollars and home owner insurance does not cover termite treatments or damage, most home owner what there investment protected, so by you saying it's scam can't be further from the truth, Like you even said Termite are foraging all the time looking for new food, as I type this in my home there are termite under my home and all around my home and I have been doing pest and termite service since I was 14 years old over 45 years, and have done many thousands of termite treatments, I have treated 2 homes next to each other at the same time using the same product applied at the same rate and 1 home will get hit many more times then the home next door, so once again, for most people there home is there #1 investment and they what all the protection they can get, for you to say bait stations don't work is so far from the truth and your mis-guiding your clients, bait station are only 2nd line of defense, and when they are done correctly and monitored correctly they are a great tool to even further the protection on a customers homes, But the most important part is the customer feels at ease in there home, and that is what your job is to do as a professional is to educate the the ways of protecting there home and letting them know the pro's and con's and let them make that choice, because I will guarantee your not treating every home 100% every time by the book, no company is, and not on purpose is just human error....most people don't know anything about termites all they do know is they DO NOT WANT THEM IN THERE HOME LET ALONE DAMAGING THERE HOME.....Do yourself a favor and listen to the client and fulfill there need so they will put at ease, you should also be doing yearly inspection for them if you really care about your clients, and a 6 to 8 week follow-up inspection after the initial treatment...... and you telling people have there home treated with Taurus that's a generic product cheap, you telling them not to worry about for 10 years are you kidding there are so many factors that play into each and every home, so if a pre-treatment is dome on a home before the foundation is poured and THAT IS THE BEST TREATMENT EVER, WHY DO COMPANIES ONLY GIVE A 3 TO 5 YEAR WARRENTY, you know why because the state requires them to because in not they would only give a 1 year, and do you know how many new homes get termite in the 1st 5 years after the pre-treatment 10 of thousands, so if sciences can't say for sure what works best, do you DAN-THE-BUG-MAN really think you know, do have superman eyes where you see all entry points and cracks under flooring where termites can enter remember termite only need 1/64 on a inch to make there way into a home and do thousands of dollars in damage before detected....termites cause billions of dollars worth of damage in the United States annually. While they primarily feed on wood, they can also damage books, insulation, and even swimming pool liners and filters.

[@garyandjoanrogers9649]

My termite company did the trench years ago and told me I need to renew the chemical treatment. When I mentioned we have an encapsulated crawl space, they said I had to do the bait stations or we would not be warrantied. There was a big push to sign up which made me hit the brakes. Is this true? Is there something about having an encapsulated crawl space that changes things? My husband checks that space routinely. Also, is an annual inspection really needed every year ($155! to walk around). We are in the Charlotte NC area.

[@carolstewart2355]

Hi, what is the name of the Liquid in the white bottle that you showed. And where can I find the container with the long handle that you can push into the ground and spray. Thank you for the video

[@jusskitten9773]

Taurus SC which a cheaper knockoff of Termidor SC after BASF’s patent expired. It works pretty good for termites and ant control like Termidor. Both of which utilize the active ingredient of Fipronil. For subterranean termites I wouldn’t use anything else, not even premise, which utilizes the neonicotinoid (synthetic nicotine) and breaks down in the soil far quicker then Fipronil. As for drywoods it’s always best to tarp the property. That will zap the termites colonies the inspectors detected along with the ones not detected. Local treatment for drywoods is a roll of the dice.

[@jerrywhidby.]

12:18 when we bought our house the previous owner had pest control setup. They started sending me a bill when we didn't have a contract with them. I didn't even know they were coming to our home. I told them not to come onto my property except to remove their bait stations. They did remove most of them.

[@hughesoutdoors5017]

I agree with this 100%. I’ve been back to houses after years of having station service installed to “renew the warranty”. And found many empty pods with active termites crawling all over them. I install bait stations because my company pays me to, but I really don’t think they work very well at all.

[@2sdys]

That’s the point.

[@hughesoutdoors5017]

@@2sdys obviously, that’s why I posted the response.

[@Hoomantavakoly]

Terminix gave me a quote of $1500 to install 12 stations. They said there is a warranty of up to $275 k. They said if there is damage they pay up to 275K to fix the damage . They don't really tell me how that works but when I look at the contract that they want me to sign , there is a lot of fine prints . Im thinking not to sign up and do the preventive treatment myself. Your thoughts ?

[@DanTheBugMan]

Yes the contracts are full of fine print details that 99% of the time gets the pest control company out of having to pay for the damages.

[@Hoomantavakoly]

Do you think it is affective if I do it myself following the instruction? . I have Taurus SC and digging a trench is not a big deal .. what’s really the point of hiring pest control company to do it ? Convenience ?

[@michaelmerck7576]

Avoid that contract ,the fine print exonerated them from all liability

[@jonathanhutchinson6669]

Terminix international?or an independent franchise of Terminix? What state do you live in? Because that IS a rip off 100%

[@Hoomantavakoly]

@@jonathanhutchinson6669 franchise Texas

[@withers1111]

As a pest technician in australia. You always want to put a chemical barrier in place and use the in ground stations as a defence . Fipronil based products, such as termidor and inground stations such as trelona ATBS

[@SavageTec]

Ive used them on active infestations and they usually start working within 3 months. I haven't done thousands of termite jobs but I've done a few.

[@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit]

Termidor works within the first few weeks

[@DanTheBugMan]

3 months aint bad!

[@lovealwaysjasmine]

you used the bait stations or the liquid?

[@xWhiteShad0Wx]

hey quick question, the tarus SC if applied the way shown on this video around the entire house that will be effective for 10 years ? was a little confused on that since Tarus SC says something about applying 4 times a year. also thank you for the video

[@MikePeaslee]

Your 6 years in the pest management industry means you still have a great deal to learn. I've only got 46+ years and I know enough to know that I don't know everything, but one thing I do know is that termite baits eliminate the colonies, not just put down a barrier that hopefully the termites don't penetrate. Baiting for termites is a much better option that liquids and is much more environmentally responsible.

[@buckittz]

Do you know how fipronil works lol? You're wrong

[@chriss5470]

WHAT!?? Please tell me your joking! baiting is better then treating with Termindor!??? You sir are are stuck 46 years back in time .

[@jakemunoz2400]

You are absolutely correct! I have used both liquid and baits and the baits are by far the better treatment.

[@DaveSchultz0407]

Dan, I really appreciate your video on the bait stations and the unethical behavior of some pest control companies. Would like your thoughts on my situation. I have an all-wood tiki hut down in the Florida Keys. Just found some evidence of termites. Local guys typically treat with a tent. Treating the soil is a little tricky as the tiki hut sits on the edge of saltwater on coral stone. no real solid to retain the poison and I am concerned about the poison going into the water. Thoughts?

[@KarlsKronicles]

I appreciate your video. Just found evidence of termites and will have to DYI it. My son and I will have to do the liquid treatment around the house. I am retired and don't have thousands of dollars to throw at this. Thanks for your information

[@JT-on6zo]

Hey Dan great video. I agree with the baiting system not being very effective. However; treating live activity with an above ground bait is 100% the best way to eliminate a termite colony. The reason we use baits is because under a liquid only contract, we are not allowed to treat via above ground baiting- per our department of agriculture. In our state, proper protocol should be Liquid + Bait preventative treatment.

[@Dilian718]

What would you recommend for states like Massachusetts where Fipronil is not allowed?

[@marcusstephans5947]

lol the sentricon system absolutely works. I have gotten rid of many infestations with them. I agree they are overpriced but that’s because you have to sign a contract with company to get them as a pest control company.

[@luupatelier3847]

I wish you would have explained how the liquid treatment kills the colonies

[@IlithiophobiaKiller]

Was there a bet of some sort on how many times you say “bait stations” in the video?😅😅😅

[@CorporalDecay]

Termite Bait Stations are there to monitor activity before they start eating away at the house. I've installed bait stations around my home, and it hasn't taken long for them to find the bait.

[@foamersimpson6690]

12:35 the company I worked for would actually send you out with a pick axe to pull of the sentricon stations. ive probably done it like 25 times in 2 years.

[@7kardia750]

I think the bait stations could be highly effective if placed in spots where there is a high probability termites will be active. I plan to put them in my flower beds where I have bark, and near large trees.

[@BrookeBrowne]

Hope you're one of the lucky ones in Asheville! It looks terrible there :(

[@DanTheBugMan]

Thanks for thinking of me! My family and I are safe and well. My heart breaks for the community

[@nathanskelley6229]

I install, and I have seen them work and eliminate colonies, along with indoor stations or core stations. Every threshold is different and it all depends on a tech doing a check properly in crawls and anywhere you can safely access. The baits I check get checked twice a year and we video our inspections so that we know the tech is actually checking a property correctly.

[@swaroopv2]

Can you let us know how to do a preventative maintenance in attic for drywood termites. That would be a major help for most of us.

[@viaCialdini3]

do you treat in the Cary-Raleigh area?

[@badristraveldairy5362]

Hi Dan, iam planning to do a Taurus SC Liquid termite treatment how many time do i need to apply this across the perimeter is this a one time application or couple of times an year when it says it protects for 5 to 10 years some says do it 2-3 time an year so iam confused how many time do i need to apply to make the house termite safe please advise and also advise if there are any reference material that i know.

[@chriscowally]

What qualifications does someone need to check these stations

[@IsYouDrunk]

@danthebugman Hey, man!! Thank you for the video! My wife and I just found termites inside my home. The peat control company said it will be $1700 to use bait stations and that they have a pheromone in them that attracts them there and kills the colony. Do you know of anything like this being true? I'd like to hire you to do my house with the old school method if you're available.

[@Anticrap-b1e]

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! I can’t afford to get my home tented. I also have carpenter ants . So I found you on YT. Bingo! Will be DIY. Given the opportunity I Would save myself the hassle and hire. That’s not an option. So grateful for your help! Very instructive and easy to understand videos! Wishing you success!

[@nixedd]

There are issues with both liquid and bait but in coastal areas, bait is better just due to sandy soil and heavy storms and rain that degrade the liquid treatment at a much faster pace. No pest company and 100% guarantee that their liquid treatment will create a full barrier around the home due to obstructions in the soil from rocks and things of that nature. I've been in the industry for 11 years now and I think the Sentricon stations have been amazing including with Formosan termites the reason companies normally spray first is because it normally has a faster kill time because the termites are already on the home but I've also seen Sentricon AGs work amazing as well (with a little power-aid)

[@JohnDarling-sp4mq]

I am looking to have a liquid barrier treatment applied around my new home in Little River (myrtle BeACH ARea)-no luck-can anyone point me in the right direstion?

[@jonjohnson422]

If you see active termites, you absolutely should not be setting up a subterranean baiting system. The most effective way at that point is to use a liquid treatment. With the rod method

[@jasonclay6218]

I'm doing a termite treatment tomorrow that has active termites. Those bait stations failed to do the job. Needless to say, the company that put those in will not be returning.

[@DanTheBugMan]

Very Nice!!! :)

[@xstrmzy9846]

bait stations have always been the answer for preventative, we use the termidor he in soil and through wall foam and some form of dust applicant with the growth inhibitor and above ground bait stations to do the job for active infestations. Any company that sells bait stations as a end all be all is a scam.

[@CharleneWiggins-md7vg]

I live in Tampa, FL.I have been seeing a lot of wings in my garage and window sill in the house, I had my pest control people come out and see what was going on. He said termite swarming. He inspected my entire home and up in the attic and found no activity or signs of termite damage. Suggested using the Sentricon system around my home and an outbuilding. My home has a lot of wood inside (floors, walls, etc.) and outside. The price he quoted to me was $3975 for installation and $580 per year for warranty. Being a senior that is a lot of money. But, I do not want my home to be damaged. The only other way he said would be to tent which was a quote of $7000 plus remove my pool screen. So, I'm wondering how you feel about this. I think I should for sure get another company out for a quote but feel pretty sure it would be close to the same as I got from the first guy. Help!!!!!

[@tassopolis1]

Reach out to Florida Pestworx for a MUCH better deal. Check us out on google.

[@TheASG2010]

That is a high quote, shop around. Sentricon is designed for subterranean termites, doesn't stop "drywood" termites. The Sentricon bait contains a chemical that disrupts insect growth hormones. Also, Sentricon is a preventative measure, not useful for active infestation. Sentricons are vulnerable to lawn mower damage

[@ManuelSanchez-po9yq]

That is a lot of money, shop around, do the tent if the price is right and skip the warranty, you will be good for 5 to 6 years before things goes bad again.

[@abeykuriakose1403]

Thanks a lot for the information. Yesterday a pest control company came and gave me an estimate of $800 and a monthly payment of $49 for two years

[@enoughrope1638]

The purpose of termite bait stations is to give the worker something to scan that proves they did their job. Nobody wants a bug guy to kill bugs, they want the bug guy to look busy.

[@uscgamecock87]

Hey Dan! Thanks for this info! Bait stations never made sense to me, I avoid them. Best regards, Katie's dad.

[@DanTheBugMan]

Thanks for watching!

[@eddiefaults]

Dan, noticed you never really drill on patios or walk ways. is that necessary? Great Vids. Thanks

[@DanTheBugMan]

No, it’s not necessary. It’s an archaic practice that still is practiced especially on some commercial accounts. There’s some red tape and the laws need to be changed.

[@ahouston9602]

So is liquid 100 percent effective ?

[@santiagolisboa684]

Just found thermites on my raised garden beds. Is it safe to use Taurus sc near consumer plants (tomatoes, peppers, etc.)?

[@-maccabee]

I have the same question

[@santiagolisboa684]

@@-maccabee I read the datasheet and the 'How to use'. It's not meant to be used for plants that are meant for human consumption.