Dark Alliance Miniatures: $10 ENTIRE ARMIES

[@Icthyologist]

These guys used to be called "Caesar Miniatures" and they sold mostly military wargaming miniatures. However, they had a small fantasy line and you could get like forty goblins or dwarfs or whatever for like fifteen dollars. Shit was awesome.

[@harbl99]

Thought I recognized the trade dress. I have a bunch of their Mycenean Greek/Trojan War minis. Good sculpts. Lots of detail for the scale.

[@timmg5711]

No, different brand. I have some of both and Caesar is a better sculpt and mold.

[@ChrisKCook]

Yeah the Local Model Shop had them years Back.

[@noodles2459]

I swear ceaser was a different company

[@timmg5711]

@@noodles2459 They are and I prefer Ceasar, They are hard to find and I have a set of elves that looks like LOTR( elf set 2). The dark alliance has many more sets, like worgs. I love the 1/72 scale, since my first airfix sets in the 70's.

[@DanielCarlsson-ug4pu]

Box art, sprues, everything screams of the eighties. I love it! Even the big numbers on the side of the box tickles my memories. Ive seen these boxes before, as a kid. ^^

[@libertyprime2013]

Those orcs look like they’d be good goblins

[@jinchoung]

the essential difference is that these are the same kind of soft plastic as the green and tan army men you get in buckets from walmart. they are indeed cheap and you can go a long way with these but people should know that this is not in the same league as wargaming minis made with the hard plastic. there's a lot of give to the figures which result in bent swords and spears and such. on the plus-side, they're far less likely to break.

[@domino6434]

Heat them up with warm water and the sword is no longer bent

[@banartul]

I'm constantly surprised 1/72 scale isn't more popular in miniature gaming.

[@MrZauberelefant]

Right, the scale does pretty much cover any and all historical periods, and then some. But 28mm or 32 is nicer to hold and look at. Still a bloody shame

[@solouno2280]

well, it's for risk kind of games

[@Skulliver-t8q]

Same, these look good, the price is right and given the same table size and play area for say War of the Ring, You could really get great looking mass battle forces together quickly and cheaply.

[@PhD777]

1/72nd scale is huge in its own circles. The size was especially popular in the 1960's and 1970's due to Airfix and Atlantic. They are 20mm in size, usually more proportionally true as opposed to the 28-32mm "heroic" miniatures with ridiculously oversized heads, hands, feet and weapons.

[@phelyxz]

i guess that all boiled mostly down to games workshop deciding on 28mm back when they made the two warhammers

[@mikesmith2905]

For sci-fi in 1:72 I use Dark Dream Studio Space Battles Set 1 and 2 as ‘space troops’ and Dark Alliance Stalkers 1 and 2 for ‘space pirates’ with ancients for civilians and assorted ‘ground crew’ as base personnel. Way cheaper than ‘wargamer’ models.

[@Bluecho4]

I think this scale works very well for D&D. Many of the WizKids line and similar lines (like the Pathfinder minis) are on the smaller side, compared to Warhammer models. So a single box of the Orcs will be enough to supply an entire campaign's worth of encounters. (Barring bosses, of course). The Wargs and Trolls, though. Those I can see myself using for wargames. Their scale is ambiguous enough that they could slot into many armies. I could definitely add the Wargs to my Gnoll Beastmen army as chaos hounds.

[@thomaschase7097]

For reviewing the entire line, including zombies, go to Plastic Soldier Review, all one word, dot comm. Also, if memory serves 1 72 depot dot comm. 1/72 is mathematically from bottom of foot to top of head is 25mm. It is called 20mm in the market and conflates 20mm, 1/87, 1/76, 1/72, and 25mm into a group. There are ancients to modern to super natural to samurai to medieval to fantasy available in 1/72 (20mm) scale. HO scale (1/87) Rail road trees and bushes work well. For hard terrain there are some building kits, else 3D printing or MDF. I wargame WW2 and Vietnam all in 1/72.

[@Meyoni]

Ash watching you tear that poor warg off the sprue hurt me. Look in a hardware store for a Micro Flush Cutter they’re a tiny snipping tool perfect for the job and should be less than 5.00 USD

[@sebbonxxsebbon6824]

Check he spent $10 for the whole army, $5 buys half a 2nd army!

[@shamhownow]

Yeah, holy Jesus, I didn't know anyone snapped figures off sprues like that anymore. Good luck getting a night haunt or ad mech model off a sprue without breaking it trying to snap it off by hand with no clippers.

[@Meyoni]

@@sebbonxxsebbon6824 🤣

[@doctoronishispsychosislab1474]

mine cost 2 quid from boyes store in uk

[@Dumnonia]

Clippers make getting them off the sprues very easy. In terms of flash, of the four sets I have, three barely had any, while one set of zombies had quite a bit. Seems like these are a bit hit and miss. The details are excellent for the scale though so don't be deterred. Due to the softness of the plastic, I had to buy new blades for my craft knife because you need something sharp to be able to cut the flash off effectively.

[@B1-997]

had a look, oh boy there are 3-4 boxes for each mini type it seems on their website, choices galore!

[@mikkoleinonen9846]

I've been a fan of 1:72 ever since I bought my 2 whole WOTR armies for like 40EUR. Too bad that Dark Alliance is pretty much the only 1:72 fantasy manufacturer that are easily available for me. There's nothing wrong with them, I love them, but I just wish there were more :) The beauty of 1:72 boxes is that you can get pretty much a whole skirmish game by buying one box of infantry and one box of cavalry for both sides.

[@cactuscoe9096]

Another super cheap source of minis is a failed wargame named "Arcane Legions" with 25mm Bronze Age fantasy units of all kinds (no longer in production but cheap due to being a failure)

[@darthmelkor3099]

Like dice, you can never have enough miniatures

[@Patrick-w7b]

@@darthmelkor3099 i have lot of miniature in différents scale 15 mm 28 mm even 32 which are waiting to ne paient somme of them for 15 years or more and i am still bying figurines

[@Neruomir]

The orcs not being green is kinda obvious if you look at the box art or the trolls. They are not GW green skins they are Tolkin orcs and "inspired" by the PJ movies. The bendy plastic is not an issue to any hobbyist as they all own a flush cutter and a sharp craft knife and if not then they should. I like the bendy stuff as i have lost count on how many GW swords and spears i have broken off. I like my gaming pieces sturdy and most of GW's new oversized stuff needs a bloody pelicase trunk for transport and breaks as soon as you remove them from the display cabinet or look at them.

[@Enders1315]

If only they were 28mm. They look pretty good.

[@jacksonferretti3159]

You could use them for mini agnostic games... maybe use them as enemies for frostgrave

[@ElRojo651]

I wargame in this scale, it's all not that different than 28mm just let's you use more minis per table space. They work well for any game that use 28mm i use them for a system in oathmark

[@roberthartburg266]

There are some big difference between 28mm(1:56) and 20mm(1:72) and that is that painting 20mm miniatures is even more a pain in the ass and less fun than with 28mm. Yes you can put more minis on your table, but you have to paint all those minis and because of that small scale it's all detail painting work. You also have less options when it comes to the miniatures, because kitbashing is also more difficult or depending on the mini's sculp impossible.

[@danmorgan3685]

If they were 28mm they would be priced like 28mm scale miniatures.

[@jimjim292]

@@roberthartburg266 You do realize that the standard wargaming scale is 15mm and that painting 15s is an absolute breeze, right?

[@Skulliver-t8q]

One thing to point out is that while these are a stretch for use in 28mm gaming, They do work quite well for LOTR Strategy Battle Game from GW (aside from those awesome centaurs and mummies) and most of the visual design is (ahem) "inspired" by the Peter Jackson films. Even if you don't use them for that. They could be great in Oathmark, Dragon Rampant or a "multiple figures to a base" game like Hordes of the Things or Mighty Armies.. If you like the models and are already 80 bucks in on them, why not grab an alternate rule set and give it a try. Oathmark is fantastic and Dragon Rampant is as well. They are miniatures agnostic and scale agnostic in as much as it comes down to what you think looks right on the bases. 1/72nd is 20mm for most historical miniatures but can swing to "true 25mm" . GW product, being based on fantasy and sci fi elements became the the king of scale creep and took that to 28mm then "Heroic 28mm" which is more or less 32mm.

[@AshQuest]

Good recommendations, I'll be sure to look into them. Would love to put these guys to use.

[@Skulliver-t8q]

@@AshQuest Dragon Rampant, Oathmark and Hordes of the Things are also good options.

[@agentbrown5542]

Look up Plastic Soldier Review. They do reviews of 1/72 plastics, mainly historical that can fill in the gaps for humans.

[@johnmccann5725]

Hi. Includes a specific review of this range and has links to sellers, where you can get best price rather than E bay

[@jacobe1942]

best resource for doing any kind of historical work!

[@BwfVid]

I love these! I use them with Dragon Rampant!

[@BlackDouglas1000]

These equal 20mm in scale a bit big for my 15mm armies. A lot of people want to get into war games but hit the GDW price wall and complexity barrier. There are many alternatives for rules, One Page Rules is free, Hordes of the Things is low cost, One Hour Wargames, whilst not fantasy can be easily tweaked for fantasy of the LotR variety. There are a lot of inexpensive and free rules options available. If you are building armies or dungeon crawling minis from scratch these are not bad. It will take some trimming, and scrubbing to get them to prime and paint to a table ready standard but that is part of the hobby. Obviously I am trying to encourage folks to look at war gamming from a unabashedly non-GDW perspective and not sweat having to expend huge dollars, thanks for showing these to us.

[@andersand6576]

Do love the Rampant games aswell, Xenos, dragon, lion and so on. For miniature agnostic games

[@Skulliver-t8q]

Good points. You could easily use Neil Thomas' "Wargaming,:An Introduction" by going " Right, these Celts here are Orcs and the Gondorians are Romans, LET"S ROCK.

[@benjamineisenhofer8174]

1/72 is THE BOMB scale, it's sooo much fun to paint and to play with! Also this manufacturer? After I found out about them I may have bought like 40+ different packs in that scale (some from other manufacturers). I played Chainmail with this scale, and it's just awesome!

[@MrHaicken]

There a lot of options for 1/72 scale fantasy and historicals. Zvezda and HaT come to mind.

[@tabletop.will.phillips]

Yeah, I was about to say: it feels like the creator isn't aware that minis come in (lots) of other scales than the 28/32mm scale popularized by Games Workshop and Hasbro, and so didn't realize what the "1/72" meant when he ordered his boxes. Regardless, they look great for that scale - and there are lots and lots of 1/72 scale options that will pair well with these.

[@Patrick-w7b]

Thére is italeri too they match with Zvezda figurines

[@Gingycat100]

Zvezda is a Russian company. These ones are Ukrainian. Your choice to make but one to be aware of.

[@MrHaicken]

@@Gingycat100 Thanks for the extra information. My point was that 1/72nd is a fairly common scale.

[@jacobe1942]

Zvezda historicals are the reason I think I got interested in 1/72 gaming. they are great.

[@ZergSmasher]

Personally I think these might be a good grab for developing your own games. They're cheap enough and generic enough for a lot of potential rulesets. Any game that is miniatures agnostic and approximately the right scale could be played with these. Not gonna lie I'm tempted to grab a few myself just to see.

[@knyght27]

Love seeing these sorts of videos about low-price miniatures

[@thgsMASK]

those trolls look exactly like the Lord of the Rings strategy battle game trolls, almsot seem like scans or recasts that have been reposed or maybe just rescuplted, very interesting.

[@mangoman9290]

The Orcs could be kobolds, the trolls look very similar in style to the LOTR GW Trolls

[@JCPRuckus]

If you look at the rest of the fantasy line most of it is clearly based on the LOTR movies.

[@CBiscuit317]

The artwork on the Orcs box is very obviously a gussied up still from the Two Towers: it’s the orc blowing a horn to open the Black Gate for the Easterlings to come through

[@micahhundley26]

One page rules or warlords of erehwon would love these

[@itsjustgavi]

those trolls are very reminiscent of the GW LOTR mordor trolls! the amour is unmistakable!

[@ZergSmasher]

A lot of the models are direct copies, or at least heavily derived from, LOTR minis. There are some Eastern Tribes guys that are totally not just rebranded Easterlings too.

[@Skulliver-t8q]

@@ZergSmasher Yup, a lot of the style "fell of the back of a truck" . That said, if you wanted to play G'W's LOTR games which are nominally 25mm, not 28mm or 32mm, these seem like a really great option.

[@jasonhall8882]

I've been using Dark Crusade minis for Oathmark and OPR for a few years now, great little minis. You have to wash them really well before priming.

[@fallenswan1670]

170cm is in 1:54 scale 3,15cm so, 28mm*/32mm** is basically 1:54. I do not really know size of "heroic scale", I do not have minies with that size, but I could guess, they may be 1:52, 1:50 or 1:48 or something like that. 170cm in 1:50 is 3,4cm (34mm), and in 1:48 it is 3,54cm. (*=28mm eye level of character, **=32mm top high level of character - I love how so many producers just have their own definition for scale, and no one standard. There is also minies with "28mm scale" where the size means actual hop high level. And my guess is, that "32mm heroic" is where 32mm is eye level? Maybe). Anyway, interesting... I think I may look after these... I could have use of "goblins", "wolves" and ogres/trolls... (in non-heroic, 28mm/32mm, scale)

[@thomaschase7097]

To clean the flashing I use a pin, embedded in putty, heated with a propane flame. The propane flame is sootless. Then run that alo g the flash. Usually still need a knife. To seal the base colors on the minis, and for me, my base washes, I use aryclic floor sealer. It creates a strong, somewhat flexible, coating, that allows for an oil wash, if you like. I also use WWS layering glue on any pointy bits for added strength, before brushed on matte finish. Allow at least 24 hrs for the layering glue to fully cure before any lacquer finish.

[@thomaschase7097]

The WWS layering glue is clear and no shrink.

[@last2nkow]

those orcs are actually really good scale for goblins in DnD. the trolls are just wonderful! definitely grabbing a set of trolls for my high level DnD group

[@Karadek]

They also have modern and sort-of sci-fi minis. I bought boxes of zombies and apocalyptic survivors. They’re good.

[@Karadek]

Also, 1/72 scale is roughly 20mm equivalent. The plastic they are cast in is pretty similar to what most historical games have been cast in.

[@andersand6576]

@@Karadek Do you have access to the old Zombies board game, if so how do they scale?

[@Karadek]

@@andersand6576That’s a good question. I do have it, but it’s at school. I’ll have to check and get back to you.

[@informitas0117]

Stumbled upon this video by chance. Seeing a Hero Quest mini again after all this time almost made me cry.

[@orangedragon4713]

Defiantly can still play OPR with them.

[@andersand6576]

OnePageRules is really growing. Have a lot of their stls, and looking forward to try out the game, but all my friends are playing legion these days.

[@Winter420]

very cool! They are now based in Ukraine. Going to pick up a few boxes today!

[@richardmullens4707]

And being based in Ukraine at the moment is a good thing?!

[@Winter420]

@@richardmullens4707 far better than russia

[@chrisbaker2974]

​@@richardmullens4707yes, the economy and people of Ukraine could do with our support at the moment.

[@richardmullens4707]

​@@Winter420My point was that it's going to mean supply of these miniatures stops because of the war.

[@Winter420]

@@richardmullens4707 hasnt so far

[@Brickerbrack]

For super-cheap fantasy armies, you also have the 28mm dwarves and orcs from em4 Miniatures. The range is limited (3 orc figures with sword, spear or bow, and 3 dwarf figures with axe, spear or crossbow). but you can get 50 of the same figure for either £14.99 or £10.66 (some of them are on sale at the moment). or an assorted pack of 48 (16 of each dwarf, or of each orc), also for £10.66. They also do packs of _slightly_ less cheap, but also pretty cool, sci-fi miniatures; troopers, gangers, Space Rangers and mechs.

[@JamesBrowningII]

I have a bunch of these. I get mine from Michigan Toy Soldier Company. They stock all of these miniatures and they ship fast and are based in Royal Oak, MI. I use mine to practice painting techniques like Slapchop without worrying about messing up my expensive miniatures.

[@elrondorio]

That's where I get mine also

[@anthonyspaltro3643]

1/64 is Matchbox car scale. 1/56 is Bolt Action WW2 size. 1/48 was O railroad scale. 1/87 was HO railroad scale. Sooo back in the old days...wargaming armies were primarily 25mm or 1/72. Metal. A Napoleonic period game could have several hundred figures on each side. WW2 guys could have tanks, artillery and planes in 1/72 as well as plastic soldiers at an affordable price. D&D was played with 25mm because it was based on Chainmail, a fantasy wargames rule set. Citadel and Games Workshop shifted to 28mm and 25mm was sidelined.

[@kurukblackflame]

I've used this sort of figure before (WW2 and Ancient Romans/Celts). These sorts of figures tend to be cheaper and have good detail for their size. One down side to consider is that the paint tends to flake off them more easily than it would on hard plastic or metal. Wash them before you start (like you would with a resin piece) but even then they'll be prone to paint damage-So be careful with them if you paint them.

[@thomaschase7097]

I made a post about how to prevent paint damage.

[@sneakyskunk1]

I honestly did not expect him to stop at five boxes. He just kept pulling out box after box, I half thought he would go until his entire table top was covered by hundreds of boxes of miniatures.

[@manuellaslo1282]

for their price, this minis are very good. and you can use them just fine for fantasy tabletops, like warhammer. if all players use this minis! playing warhammer with scaled down minis can be very fun. and since all of them are so cheap, building an army is easy. you only need to make some bases for the units, to move them more comfortably.

[@manuellaslo1282]

i have taken a look into their whole range. half of their minis are "inspired" by lord of the rings. the other half is inspired by ancient mythologie. they look good so far. i can see them beeing used in a hyborian age themed game. maybe i will get a few boxes to take a look at them.

[@badwrongfun5541]

Honestly I'd consider getting some boxes of these and re-basing them as D&D miniatures. Easier to justify the scale since they could be the only thing at the time, and they have a lot of standard fantasy races and monsters in the line. I'd probably have four times what I'd need, but still might be a good deal.

[@damianarvizu1095]

I can attest to this. They have modern and science fiction themes too. I used the zombies and survivors with gaslands

[@andersand6576]

Same here! Gaslands are awesome!

[@stonehorsegaming]

Those War Trolls are based on the armoured Trolls from the Lors of the Rings films. So, yeah... great design! I can see myself getting a load of those boxes and doing a Troll force for ToW. Thanks for the video!

[@flindude2681]

The biggest problem seems to be scale, the Warhammer scale is kind of standard but nor totaly universial. I remember having the battlemaster set and then getting inerested in warhammer and the size was a bit smaller and the trend seems to be getting larger over time. Centar is the worse one because we know size of horse+man but a small orc can be a goblin, andwargs are totaly right size of a wolf or monster wolf because those can range in all kinds of sizes of realistic smaller then man or bigger then man. If anything uniform sizes for anything is unrealistic, all adults are not same hight and not everything is a mature adult.

[@photonfartsqueeze6694]

Am I a mature adult?

[@attentionspanlabs]

I picked up six boxes on your recommendation, including wargs with riders, two kinds of trolls, Ithilien rangers, and Dol Amroth knights. I am quite impressed with their detail.

[@BX-advocate]

I think these would be great for an old school D&D game. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[@SgtHouse]

As always thank you for another product review! Yes, I believe the trolls can work for HeroQuest, but the rest is questionable as most people are sticklers on miniature sizes.

[@m__y-t-s]

A lot of 1/72 stuff is out of scale, but some stuff can work. Not sure about these ones, but some orcs look like decent goblins, and so on. The Airfix Robin Hood box has been used as halflings for like 50 years at this point.

[@darkjak565]

Did I need a box of the "heavy undead army" guys? Probably not. Could I say no to a $10 price tag for some fun little guys to toss into my Deth Wizards army? ...nope.

[@JackOpulski]

Hey I know this manufacturer, they're INCREDIBLY eclectic. I knew them from their historical catalogue and recently discovered that ancient and Napoleonic sets that to my knowledge, no other manufacturer would do, were only the tip of the iceberg. They may not be of the best quality out there and as you mentioned the sprews are very thick and hard to cut through but still interesting to get if you're looking for rare factions/units for affordable price.

[@crapparc]

What are some of the most niche units/boxes that they did?

[@JackOpulski]

​@@crapparc I don't know all of them by far, I got sets for settings that aren't that common to find, like the Crimean war and Russo-Swedish war; and recently I found some Roman civilian sets on ebay for dirt-cheap. Others aren't that unique but I found them really helpful, such as sets with all figures in marching order instead of what 1:72 fig makers generally do (varieties of poses). Going from my limited experience and recent finds here, but the impression I got, reinforced by that video as it turns out they also do fantasy armies... is that they'll make models about ANYTHING.

[@Father_Wendigo]

Those mummies could be like a little terra cotta army of killer dolls, swarming whoever opens the room

[@AshQuest]

LOL awesome suggestion!

[@nightfire734]

I like how the trolls are straight from Lotr. But the wargs come with no riders?

[@andersand6576]

If i remember right there is a separate box of riders.

[@AshQuest]

Yeah! You can get riders for the wargs (the box also comes with its own wargs) and there are other box sets with riders as well for tons of mounted possibilities!

[@andersand6576]

@@AshQuest cool. Goblin riders could be an interesting enemy for hq, maybe with two life points. When first spend the goblin dies and the stats change - faster but less attack

[@johnmccann5725]

The range has sets of Wargs with goblin riders and with half orcs, so you can get all in one box. Based on LotR films. There are also Elves, Dwarves, Rohan, Gondor, Easterlings, Southrons, Balrogs, goblins etc etc. names slightly changed for legal reasons I guess. Excellent quality.

[@bigdave4859]

Depending on the rest of the range these could be good for small scale Kings of War.

[@DBD-ue5wm]

Been doing this for years, never went back to heroic.

[@helix_shp]

Oh thanks a lot ! Wonderful products. I wish I had med-fan 1/72 little soldiers like that when I was a kid. Well, my WW2, napoleonic and cow boys / indians were cool, but medieval was very very rare unfortunately.

[@KeithCrowe]

I have a set of modern zombies from this manufacturer and really like them. I've considered ordering more directly from Ukraine and the cost looks to be a few $s cheaper than Amazon. I've been thinking that these sets are something you'd have to buy to use for a game and not to add to existing collections (unless they're 1/72). The Cimerian and some of the not-Lord of the Rings minis always catch my eye.

[@andersand6576]

@@KeithCrowe How do they scale with the Zombies! Board game?

[@KeithCrowe]

@@andersand6576 Pretty well. They're slightly smaller than the zombies and human player figures in the game. I actually like that they fit in the tile squares better because they're smaller. They also help add some variety to the game since all the basic zombies look the same in core set. I'm probably going to buy a set of Anti-Zombies at some point to replace the human figures. I think they'll look nice because the sculpts will all be different for the players.

[@andersand6576]

@@KeithCrowe Thanks! Can see some one asked the same on boardgamegeek, could you add an image there?

[@KeithCrowe]

@@andersand6576 Sure thing! I just added a reply with images now :)

[@grebo247365]

Those trolls would still work well in a game of middle earth strategy battle game, smaller than the gw trolls but still much bigger than 28mm humans etc, I've seen pics of them painted up and they look great.

[@tarsinsigmundson2714]

Caesar Miniatures also do a nice range of fantasy in 1/72 I have the orks goblins elves and dwarves would add allot of variance added to the Dark Alliance .

[@domino6434]

Where can i get those? Are they also based in Ukraine?

[@tarsinsigmundson2714]

@@domino6434 I got mine from a store in Australia . They are based in Taiwan from what I can find about them.

[@domino6434]

@@tarsinsigmundson2714 im nervous to try them haven't painted 1/72 yet. Details look great though

[@warbuilderj22]

3:35 might work with arcane legion, also a smaller set. Centaurs looked like ponies next to heroquest.

[@Cameron-up3vp]

I use these for war of the ring board game as they are the same size as the minis used there and also look so much nicer.

[@Jux925]

It is 1/72 scale or 20mm -- best scale :)

[@mid-westmusic3472]

20mm is not too bad for tabletop and grid.

[@Triceratopping]

Just had YT recommend this video, consider me subbed! I really like those Trolls, and I'll definitely be checking out the other stuff in the range.

[@MrBenwaan]

They'd be great for working into a Gaslands crew.

[@DarkEmpireGames]

I'm thinking that we need to bring about a revolution of 1/72nd Wargaming

[@kipkulich6042]

There's a real argument that everyone not doing 20mm is doing it completely wrong. :) I really wish there were more companies like this putting out fantasy 1/72 lines. I've already been 3d printing up a lot of 20mm stuff for the sheer fact I can bring a lot of stuff with for TTRPG play.

[@noodles2459]

the jackals work well for heroic scale

[@antigrav6004]

I grabbed the cimmerians, "modern"/heavy metal amazons and the last box of Vikings. I figure they can at least make a nice tiny scale game or a skirmish. If i like them, I'll grab some of the Egyptian ones.

[@darrelld.paveyjr.1477]

Does this company manufacture any critters in 1\48 Scale?

[@musicismandatory]

So, I've never seen your channel but this video was recommended on YT. As a mini painter, I feel you've just introduced me to a new alleyway filled with beautiful addiction... Those trolls and wargs are great, and I agree that it's unfortunate the orcs aren't larger. Oh also, 28mm is roughly 1:60 scale if I remember.

[@kwest9747]

I think they are called 28mm as they aren’t to a specific scale - some details are overemphasised, others are diminished. Eg on 28mm models heads, hands and equipment are usually very large so it would be wrong to give them a ‘scale’.

[@thomaschase7097]

28mm is 1/64. The math is based on the average male human height of 1800mm. 1800mm / 64 scale, is 28mm. The market place like to create and conflate scales based on a more algorithmic approach for "average height " using a range of averages heights. This is the pretext for including 28mm, with 1/56 and 1/48. Some people do go for larger vehicle scales to offset basing of minis. Personally I do my best to go all 1/72. There are good metal manufacturers that make 1/72 minis too. Then there is 3D printing. The hi res resin printer with new resin formulas are making much more durable products. Future is bright unless only a very small percentage have any disposable income in the future.

[@timsoyer3840]

I wish you would show comparison of these miniatures up against WizKid and reaper miniature. For example, I am wondering if the or you’re showing would be the same size as WizKid goblin? I think they would be a good use if they do. You have an instant goblin army

[@brandonl7759]

Just checked, those Orcs are 16 bucks after shipping for basically 40 badass gnoblars in my Ogre army

[@nmh11]

those 'orcs' sure do look a lot like goblins at that scale...I'm tempted to get them for goblin army fodder! Honestly, the War Trolls could be orc warlords easily at that scale too!

[@AshQuest]

I think both those ideas would work great.

[@ecs05norway64]

28mm is 1:56 scale.

[@craftsmenMC]

Trying to figure out what basing would go well with these scale minis.

[@paulwalker5221]

From memory Dark Alliance does make some other larger monster models the same size as the Trolls.

[@lgiproperties3574]

Isn't heroquest scale 28mm meaning approximately1/48? So you would expect these (which are properly advertised as 1/72} to be quite a bit smaller...

[@adzi6164]

ok, they are on a bit small-ish side... is this the 15mm scale?

[@manjr]

Dragon Rampant would be a great ruleset to use with these guys.

[@andersand6576]

@@manjr Great system. More people should know about it!

[@Yawgmothx]

Bought from the Scotts US store. Hopefully they'll fulfill the order, I have trust issues with ebay.

[@Bukkarooo]

I wish I had a game to use these with because I would love to get that box of mummies

[@spaghettispaghotti]

This would be great for a scaled version of Kings of War.

[@ZergSmasher]

Doesn't even need to be scaled. KoW just requires that the unit footprint be a certain size; it's pretty much up to you how big or how many minis are in that space. KoW is one of the first games I thought of for these minis.

[@mattaffenit9898]

I have one issue with them, from having gotten a couple of the boxes, and it's that they're 1/72 scale. The vast majority of minis I use are 28mm with some 32mm mixed in, which is very noticeably bigger. Otherwise I'd be all over them for just bulking out monster numbers. I want to like them, though.

[@darrelld.paveyjr.1477]

I do play miniature war games that do use 1\72 Scale armies, and willing to purchase yours for balance.

[@CarlosRodriguez-dd4sb]

Those look good for Hordes of the Things

[@peronbot3712]

There is more plastic in the joints than in the miniature itself hahaha

[@gavinadams4572]

Those trolls look really good.

[@natevaughn2307]

I love a good miniature and sometimes, even a bad one. A friend of mine and I are thinking about using my He-Man stash for tabletop RPGs ,I may have to move it to the floor and increase the board size. 😊

[@benfellsfive9664]

Wondering how they scale to GW's LOTR minis. A lot of their orcs/elves/men are looking very similar in aesthetic.

[@ZergSmasher]

Direct ripoffs is more like it (not that I care about such things). I was actually wondering the same thing as this could be a way to get a MESBG army on the cheap.

[@mhovar101]

On Amazon they have 15 sets of this company’s historical line for 100

[@Immortalwah]

Ash, have you seen the minis from Blacklist's Fantasy series? Their Series 1 stretch goals box is LEGIT

[@thomaschase7097]

28mm is 1/64. The math is based on the average male human height of 1800mm. 1800mm / 64 scale, is 28mm. 1/56 = 32mm 1/64 = 28mm 1/72 = 25mm 1/76 = 24mm 1/87 = 21mm The market place likes to create and conflate scales based on a more algorithmic approach for "average height " using a range of averages heights. This is the pretext for including 28mm, with 1/56 and 1/48. The reason 20mm covers 3 scales. Some people do go for larger vehicle scales to offset basing of minis. Personally I do my best to go all 1/72. There are good metal manufacturers that make 1/72 minis too. Then there is 3D printing. The hi res resin printer with new resin formulas are making much more durable products. Future is bright unless only a very small percentage have any disposable income in the future.

[@andersand6576]

Great video, would love to see more like this. Maybe look at some historicals for mercenaries/henchmen? Sure you could find some at victrix/perry minis/wargames atlantic/gripping beast/fireforge or more fantasy like northstar or if you want them really cheap em4 miniatures. Internet friend have made agoblin war band from the orcs, but have not seen them in real life, how do they scale with the hero quest goblins?

[@Deliverygrot]

make more of these type of videos i like cheap miniatures for trying paiting schemes

[@MrBonesSrIII]

Those mummies would be perfect for doing Tomb Kings in 15mm/50-72 scale like WARMASTER! Or, hear me out, Necrons who are doing a trad funeral theme in Epic/15mm 40k or other games like Trilaterum.

[@MrBonesSrIII]

Sorry, I mean 72-100

[@CharlesRichelieu-hv7sn]

Still better quality than anything gw makes.

[@craigleslie2577]

Oh very nice. Those centaurs could be chaotic halfling centaurs. :P overuse of chaotic/dread magic have stilled their growth. However they remain fierce and resilient, magic or ranged weapons is ideal in quickly taking these foe's down while in combat. :) The mummies a little small yeah, i would call them cursed children of the night. Cast away maybe like a version of a spartan warriors. :) The orcs look awesome. Id def buy a few boxes of those. :) Could have a bunch of them on a HQ base as a sort of larger snotlings mob. Little trouble makers. 🤣 The trolls are perfect. Could have a ton of fun homebrewing those. :)

[@AshQuest]

I love all these ideas; I forgot the chaos dwarves had some kind of centaur form ad well, so anything is possible I guess!

[@Weez-2_The-Beez]

For reference: 1/72 = 15-20mm 1/48 = 28mm Not sure what the newest scale difference for most of the miniatures these days which are 32mm Either way cool review for these models, I’ll probably pick up a box or 12 at some point in time lol

[@damianarvizu1095]

1/72 should be true 25mm scale. 20mm should be very close to 1/64 scale

[@declanlee6894]

The orcs could probably pass for hobgoblins

[@wolvermonkey]

Those would be good for mass combat games.