Dark Night of the Soul.

[@TheDiamondNet]

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[@vaibhavdimble9419]

This video was most needed for me at given time. Wold of psychosychacity has open up for me.. Thank you...

[@vaibhavdimble9419]

One of most favorite KZbinr who is showing strength of feminine psyche. Maybe this is what feminisms should be like..

[@CarterSams]

Hey there. I just want to say over the years, when I am in some of my darkest depths and grasping for health or healing - you have slid in with such useful information. Thank you.

[@TheDiamondNet]

You're welcome! Thank you for letting me know. :)

[@Starstorm111]

This is terrifying ... everything falling down.. conflicts arising cause im finally able to speak up my mind, my family is almost non existent, my childhood was filled of trauma and I was adopted after and grew up with so much terror, fear, false identity... I feel completely alone in a city I came at 18 and I don't even know what im doing here... I feel all my friends are not my friends... I feel like an island.. I don't know where to go, I don't trust anyone almost.. I don't know with who I can talk.. I don't feel I have strength to be around anyone and im so tired of being alone all the time at the same time... all traumas rising to consciousness... I've been on survival mode all this time, all defenses falling down, I don't even have a mother or father to who I can talk to.. feels like madness

[@jogomofo223]

u ok?

[@Starstorm111]

@@jogomofo223 stiil here.. facing too much alone.. thanks for asking. there are very dark days, painful.. other days im better... its like a deep deep grieving. thanks for asking

[@TheoDoor412]

In a similar boat. Sending love.

[@hab0272]

Many people probably dont think of themselves as "having a paradigm". I think its a useful word, that creates some distance between a person and their believes. Now it becomes this "thing" that they can observe, customize and expand.

[@TheDiamondNet]

I definitely notice that many people aren’t aware that they have a paradigm. They mostly just think it’s simply the way things are. But once that awareness exists, it can be examined and expanded.

[@S.G.W.Verbeek]

These "sharing my personal story" video's are comfortable to hear. They are very relateable.

[@yvonnesmith6152]

“Beware of undeserved wisdom” Carl Jung on psychedelics

[@xdinoify]

this is highly relevant on all levels right now globally, thank you,.,

[@TheDiamondNet]

Thank you for watching!

[@erica2105]

I love the clarity of these presentations and all the examples provided

[@Angell_Lee]

Hello Emerald, I keep smiling listing to your wisdom and how much of a gift you have to explain those deep concept in words easy to understanding. May the universe keep blessing you with all the best, you are so amazing. Thank you so much ❤

[@TheDiamondNet]

Thank you! And you're welcome!

[@franciscoramirezespanagarc7974]

The same thing that happened to you is happening to me. Now I understand that accomplishing things and making money are neither the only thing nor the most important thing, yet they are necessary in this 3D reality. Now I’m trying to connect with them from a higher perspective.

[@ehlergoat]

Yes! Be gentle. A very powerful truth right there. Faith. Be gentle with yourself.

[@JasonPruett]

i was climbing a mountain that has no summit. so what is the point what to climb forever? " took my love, took it down I climbed a mountain and I turned around And I saw my reflection in the snow-covered hills 'Til the landslide brought me down Oh, mirror in the sky What is love? Can the child within my heart rise above? Can I sail through the changin' ocean tides? Can I handle the seasons of my life? Hmm-hmm, hmm-hmm"

[@kozmicblues7758]

Emerald is a truly gifted, yet self made person.

[@MichelleBateman-ze9ib]

This was very helpful as I am in the midst of another dark night and this one is much deeper and harder and what you said about what you believe about yourself, your relationships and the world get shaken and pulled out from underneath you. 🙏🏼

[@llll2071]

Polish Psychologist Kazimierz Dąbrowski's theory of "Positive Disintegration" has been extremely valuable for me on my journey. I felt like sharing that because I remember in the past I used to describe what I was going through as a "Dark Night of the Soul". Sometimes I forget how traumatic and miserable certain periods were, not knowing at all who or what I was. Nowadays I find myself much more accepting of other people's opinions and the way they describe their experiences, like I can 'read between the lines' and not take the words too literally. Admittedly in the past I would be guilty of dogmatically trying to argue my position over others, or be convinced that what worked for me would work for everyone and I would be so preachy, it's funny looking back - and I'd prefer to laugh at my own sillyness than cringe or embarass myself excessively. If anyone else feels like sharing stuff that's been helpful on their journey I'd be interested in your input too!

[@TheDiamondNet]

Thank you for sharing the book recommendation! With the Dark Night of the Soul, the juice is definitely worth the squeeze... at least in my experience. But it was very depressing at times.

[@GQElvie]

i love what you have to say. You say it with clarity, and I think you are great... smiling and acting a little cheerier would take you even further. jmho.....

[@ПетърСтойков-р8т]

Okay, this kind-of answers my previous question. And it's valuable far beyond that.

[@joshuadiliberto1103]

You are getting more articulate and confident in your speech. I really like the continuous flow; long takes of flow consciousness in your personal story.

[@TheDiamondNet]

Thank you! I’ve been writing less on my scripts to give more of an opportunity for continuous flow. And it is my goal to be more transparent and authentic by sharing the experiences that I’ve had in order to come across these insights.

[@FrancisD-mp9wb]

Joseph Campbell used to say "life has no meaning- whats the meaning of a flower?" and that what people are looking for is not meaning in life but rather "an experience of life". I usually resonate with his insights but have had trouble assimilating the life has no meaning thing. For some reason, I keep coming back to this point in hopes of reconciling with some kind of perspective......

[@Indefinite3Point14]

Call it what you will. Great descriptive breakdown as always. You are incredibly mature and wise for your age.

[@TheDiamondNet]

Thank you!

[@MicEBeats]

Thank you for your work. It has helped me tremendously. I feel like there's been five of me always at odds with one another and now, finally, after close to two months of personal work using your materials, we start to get along. It's been the most transformative period of my life and I would never have thought that chaos can be a perfect background for change. Tonight I'm choosing a life path for the next years of my life, for better or worse. Wish me luck and God bless.

[@KreatywnyKajetan]

Paradoxes - YES. ( 30:21 ) I've noticed in my own journey that grasping those contradictions in reality by non-dual perspective and accepting of them *massively* helps to navigate through the dark nights of the soul and expand consciousness. Thank you for pointing that out. BTW, when you had brought the example of you being a pharaoh, I've immediately imagined Cleopatra, but then... I thought 'Hey, why diminish yourself? When your name's actually Emerald, then being just a pharaoh would not serve so much justice as being the carrier of Thoth's wisdom in itself...' Yeeet, may be that I've read too much on egyptian esoteric stuff and now I just can't easily focus on some simple parables. Many thanks for your wisdom, Emerald.

[@voosha93]

You’ve been able to articulate quite well what I’ve been experiencing. Thank you!

[@arabastra12]

Thank you for this, Emerald! I can remember my experience with the Dark Night very vividly. You described it brilliantly. I thought it would never end, yet it did. I do agree that it makes you a more integrated human being if you manage to pass through. I think it's ultimately an exercise in humbleness, groundedness, not taking off on some high horse and not developing an inflated ego around certain ideas of what it's like to be "a spiritual person". Hence the depression... You want to move on to the "higher" realm so desperately, yet what happens is that you dive straight down to hell. Isn't there a Jungian saying that goes something like this: "For your branches to reach the sky, your roots must reach deep down into the ground." I feel like this encompasses what the Dark Night is there to teach us.

[@TheDiamondNet]

It is definitely a humbling experience. All of my life before then was about trying to avoid my shame by building all sorts of identities and worldviews to do so. And when it all crashed down, it brought me right into the shame that I had been trying to get away from for years. So, it very much is about facing with what it is that the worldview and identity have been insulating us from.

[@arabastra12]

I can relate to what you said there about shame. I think, for me, experiencing the Dark Night made me fall back into my default mode functions and riding them out until I no longer could and was forced into a psychological reset. Very unpleasant while I was in the midst of it, but ultimately, it had to happen. Sometimes I wish there had been a gentler, less challenging way for me. I wonder if there is a specific set of personality types which this experience tends to happen to.@@TheDiamondNet

[@drop_messages6226]

thank you for making these videos. I got into Jungian psychology through podcasts like this one. These videos are a great companion to Jung's books.

[@JasonPruett]

I'm only happy when it rains I'm only happy when it's complicated And though I know you can't appreciate it I'm only happy when it rains You know I love it when the news is bad And why it feels so good to feel so sad I'm only happy when it rains" "(Hey God!) I really don't know what you mean (don't know what you mean) Seems like salvation comes only in our dreams I feel my hatred grow all the more extreme (hatred grow all the more extreme) (Hey God!) Can this world really be as sad as it seems?"

[@jaimEE-Eros]

I appreciate this a lot thank you❤

[@daniel4647]

This is very interesting, I guess this is what I'm experiencing after all. I always thought the ego death and the one with the universe thing came after the dark night, not before, so I always just ignored the idea of a dark night of the soul thinking I'd already been trough it. I was never like you, I never cared about climbing any mountain, the social ladder, I already felt like life was meaningless and identity was an illusion when I had the experience. I actually learned the value of society and climbing the mountain and social competition from having that experience, before I couldn't understand it at all. I was atheist and science oriented like you though, I think that's why it's a lot easier for me to relate to these videos than to the more "spiritual" channels with the crystals and all that. The idea about the two parts fighting is a lot like what I'm going trough right now, and it's been about five years now. Right after the experience I was fully committed to the new perspective though, I was glad to be rid of the old me, I didn't really like myself anyway, so for the first few years everything was great. Wasn't until my old self started gradually reemerging that things got progressively "darker", and now we're here. This really helped shed light on some things, thank you for explaining and sharing. It's interesting, because my old identity and your old identity would have been mortal enemies, I vividly remember wanting to burn society to the ground and string the capitalists up by their necks. And now I'm here learning from you, strange world.

[@TheDiamondNet]

One thing I would say is that I didn’t care consciously about the social ladder. In fact, I identified myself as being outside of the social ladder and in a class of my own. So, there was a sense of superiority that I felt over people who were trying to climb the social ladder. I viewed myself as a minority of one. Interestingly enough, I felt like the universe itself would abhor me if I wasn’t living up to my principles of having a strong work ethic and being successful. And my life would lose all meaning and value if I wasn’t Emerald the principled successful hard worker. Other people didn’t need to do this to be valuable. They could just be. But I saw myself as being in a class of my own… and so I perceived myself as having more responsibilities to live up to these principles… and success at my endeavors was the litmus test for if I was remaining principled. It wasn’t about being successful in the eyes of others or making money. It was about living up to moral principles around competence and work ethic… which I believed I needed to embody to be valid in my own eyes and the eyes of reality itself. In fact, being poor and struggling but having the grit and resolve to work my way through was what I scaffolded my identity upon. My identity was about being the one who’s always able to be disciplined and stick to their moral principles and succeed despite the financial obstacles and other obstacles that arose. So, financial struggle and being the poor person who shows their worth by overcoming the odds was part and parcel to my identity. And there was lots of strong judgments towards the wealthy because I saw them as spoiled because they hadn’t had their willpower tested enough by hardship. But the viewpoint was very Capitalistic in nature despite identifying with financial struggle. I was basically trying to be underdog in the movie who overcomes the odds by proving their moral fortitude. It’s like Charlie Bucket in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. But I do know a lot of people who orient to a similar identity… only minus the attachment to struggle. So, there tends to be a desire to rise to the top and climb the social ladder. There are similar attachments there to the ones that I had before my dark night.

[@hippieinatent]

This started for me when I realized that I'm not my thoughts. Thoughts seemingly control everything. A thought originated and now here I am typing this message. Once I realized the voice in my head wasn't "me", I began to feel that we are all robots. Nothing matters. Extreme nihilism set in. How can someone get over this? There's no difference between a negative thought and a positive thought. Even the thought "I see a pretty flower" is just a random programed voice in my head. I no longer see the beauty in anything. It sucked everything out of being alive. How do you find anything positive in this?

[@TheDiamondNet]

Nihilism is not the truth… it’s just the human calculator error that the mind does when it can’t find objective meaning in reality… and then unconscious projects the meaning that “things are meaningless.” The reality is that all things in reality matter beyond the concept of mattering. I recommend you check out my video about Existential Crises that I did about 6 or 7 years ago.

[@hippieinatent]

Thanks! I'll watch. Existential Crisis is a good way to put it. It's like I don't know how to be a person anymore. Been a tough ride, but hopefully I'll find clarity in the future.@@TheDiamondNet

[@JilliansNL]

i had those deep fears of nihilism as well in the beginning of my dark night as well. I thought they would never leave, but they do. Im still not through but I remember what that felt like and how painful it was but it truly subsides and you won't remember those feelings, they'll vanish.

[@scottstormcarter9603]

Thanks for trying, I am lost at a lower level. I wish I could be more positive, but If I don't speak out, I will simply die alone. Maybe I have been at the 'dark night of the soul" for 4 years. But I am stuck in a location with no way to move forward. I have been at this location almost 9 years.

[@Sharkuterie327]

I find being the type of person who can hold space for paradoxes may be able to reconcile internal experience and meaning in life, but it becomes harder to navigate the external world where those truths are not readily accepted and one paradigm must “rule” in a certain sphere. Even if one grows to see the unity in seemingly contradictory worldviews, most of society is still operating on a principle of division. Perhaps a neat follow-up topic might be “re-integrating” and establishing new boundaries for engaging the world after a dark night of the soul. (There are so many fascinating things about this… I’m thinking about the Ouroboros, for example, and Jung’s interpretation of that symbol as the unconscious/conscious dynamic and unity…) This is a difficult and complex topic, and you articulate it so well. Thank you, Emerald! ❤

[@TheDiamondNet]

Thank you! Yes, that can be challenging. To live functionally in a variety of different contexts, it’s very important not to mince paradigms. That means only one paradigmatic lens at a time and to be very aware when you switch lenses. So when practicing law, only look from the perspective of the law. When you’re doing math, only look from the perspective of math, etc.

[@Sharkuterie327]

@@TheDiamondNet Hmm… like being conscious of the boundaries that already exist between paradigms and “holding” multiple lens for them? Paradigm shifts occur when something new can be integrated… when boundaries blur for a moment to let something else in. Not that shifts would be inherently positive, but generally that might be considered growth. Like you say, it would need to be conscious. Maybe someone considers acting outside the law but they’re conscious of what rules that breaks and what paradigms they are addressing, and are going about it in order to pursue a change in thinking and behavior. They see a new or better path from their insight during the “dark night” that previously went unnoticed. The difference between paradox and contradiction seems important. A true paradox means there is inherent validity in both/all perspectives. A contradiction means one or more competing perspectives can be invalidated. Lens shifts are necessary to spot the invalid premises for a contradiction, but lens shifting for a paradox instead reveals the intertwined nature of the paradoxical perspectives. So maybe it depends on whether the “dispute” between worldviews one adopts is a paradox or a contradiction. The worldviews you gave about pursuing achievements in a meritocracy and pursuing connection and wholeness I would consider a true paradox. Formation (building one’s individuality) and dissolution (recognizing we’re already “one”). A paradox can never be resolved, but it can be accepted meaningfully. Maybe that is where I get hung up. I think about these things too much, so don’t mind me… Thank you for the discussion. 😅

[@paulsteinph.d.8869]

Brilliant..!

[@abelkeinz7028]

Nine Inch Nails’s song Everyday is exactly the same and The Wretched can be be seen as songs about dark night of the soul

[@nykterion7]

You’re the best!

[@MultipleGrievance]

Some of us live in the dark night of the soul. I first discovered meaningless when I was a kid. I've been trying to find a solution to that my entire life. I'm now 48! I envy those of you who go through a relatively short period time and come out of the darkness. I still go back in regularly. I know that there is no pain I could experience that I haven't already. The darkest point in your life is probably my tuesday. FYI ; If you don't come out the other side as a changed person, If you don't have a new paradigm & Your perspective hasn't changed significantly... . It's a good bet you didn't go through a dark night of the soul. You just went through some pain. The entire idea behind this IS transformation. That's why there was darkness in the first place, Because your world view was shattered. You lost your footing.

[@moxieamber]

This is an excellent video. I related to many of the experiences you provided as examples. Do you have videos about people waking up from cults?

[@TheDiamondNet]

I don't have any videos on the topic. But certainly, the dynamics that happen from within a cult really set someone up for a major Dark Night of the Soul. In a cult, the perspective is intentionally made narrow for the express purpose of controlling people. And there are negative social consequences (like ostracism) for people who don't adopt the narrow mindset. So if a person is raised in a cult and gets out, that would certainly evoke a huge "rug pull" of their foundations of knowledge and belonging. And it can be difficult to find their bearings.

[@moxieamber]

@@TheDiamondNet exactly yes. I born into a cult. While my heart didn’t believe & subscribe for many years, my mind was conditioned & controlled for most of my life. After several layers of awakening, I fully woke in 2015. I lost my familial ties and my community all at once. Shunned. It’s been really wild discovering who I am now and also healing my mind & retraining my brain. Lots of baby steps, highs and lows. It has felt like many dark nights. So much healing abundance growth, but I am still finding myself in patterns I do not enjoy, and grieving the time I lost. It’s not that easy to snap out of it and just think the new thoughts and have the new free life. I am free, and I celebrate that. I just do not find myself passionate about life like I used to. I keep trying new things and creating new hobbies but nothing lights me up anymore. Prior to my awakening I owned a business that I was super passionate about. I couldn’t run it while I was in a deep healing space and I wasn’t able to begin again with the same passion for it. So, I’m still discovering what’s next at 45. ❤️

[@Nakiayanatural]

Why do I feel like my entire life is a constant dark night 😅

[@TheDiamondNet]

I can definitely relate to that.

[@ChiDante]

It's because you're vegan in a world of devouring, and like any addiction the dynamic itself will fight you for getting out. The sooner you accept that life is war the sooner you will learn to fight for peace...like realizing that the path of least resistance lies in mastering inner discipline. Taking the shackles of conditioning into your own hand. Sounds hard?feels hard..but, it's actually simple - just be your true self. So listen to me when i say: don't listen to me. Now go be happy and do what everyone wants you to do!

[@TheDiamondNet]

Not so sure that being Vegan has much to do with struggling with the Dark Night of the Soul. The Dark Night of the Soul is about the loss of meaning… not about struggling with valuing mercy in a world of suffering.

[@ChiDante]

@@TheDiamondNet 😅 mean...

[@TheDiamondNet]

I'm not trying to be mean. I just disagreed with your post.

[@krobbins8395]

The book you was talking about I understand as the Akashic record and yes for teaching purposes you can get access to it about others and yourself at times. It sounds like your process is going awesome...cause it is a process one that's for your entire life. It's seems your always leveling up and gaining higher and higher perspectives. I have been on this process for a long time way before KZbin existed and depending on your level and pace of growth you can have multiple dark nights but it isn't a race. I do understand the struggle to live in both the experiences of say science and spirituality at the same time but it does work. We are not supposed to have one or the other but both and that is the jump humanity is going through that why the idea of destroying the 3d and going to 5d is a flawed idea to me since we are multi dimensional beings lol.

[@TheDiamondNet]

Do you mean the book I was talking about that showed up in my journey that I mentioned in my Christ Consciousness video? It had occurred to me that perhaps it was a representation of the Akashic Record. It's interesting that I had always imagined the Akashic Record to be like a giant hall of oracles and reference materials... like a big library. But it also makes sense that it could be something that fits comfortably in your lap. And I totally agree about the idea of going from 3D to 5D being a flawed idea. It sends that message that there is something lesser about the 3D... or that we always have to be leveling up in some way. But my experiences have indicated to me that no hierarchy exists between the spiritual and material. One is not greater than the other. And in fact, there is not other... they are one.

[@krobbins8395]

@@TheDiamondNet yes Indeed.

[@krobbins8395]

@@TheDiamondNet giggles, wait until you gain access to your past lives in your own. Thats a real ball of yarn. ♥️

[@Zajcooo]

I'm stuck at being able to switch from spiritual paradigm to a more secular one and vice versa. How the hell do I deal with paradoxes? Sure, I can look at things from different perspectives, depending on the situation, but which one ULTIMATELY is it? There has to be THE absolute truth in the end, even if outside of my reach. This has been killing me for more than half of my life at this point. Just had my 30th birthday and I feel just as lost as I was entering puberty around 13, getting bombarded with secular culture (thanks, internet) outside my very fundamentally Christian household.

[@TheDiamondNet]

When it comes to dealing with paradoxes, it's recognizing that there are things that are true from certain vantage point and untrue from others... and to hold space for all perspectives. And the absolute truth is the conglomeration of all perspectives in existence... which of course no one has access to. What might be helpful is for you to check out my video titled "The Antidote to Self-Doubt." There I talk about the distinction between objective truth and subjective truth. This might create a firmer foundation from which to reconcile the perspectives you're attempting to reconcile.

[@Zajcooo]

See, that's the thing. Things fall down when they're thrown up just like 2 + 2 equals 4. Arguing against that is at best just mental gymnastics for useless thought experiments (or mental masturbation at worst). All I'm left with after getting good at juggling different perspectives is having nothing concrete to hold onto to guide me, other than those empty, soulless, empirical, often deterministic, almost fatalistic truths. It's as if once I lost my faith, I can't believe anymore, only speculate or pretend. And it's absolutely awful. Sometimes it feels like the belief and truth are just barely out of my reach, like I played some sort of cruel joke on my future self in pursuit of the ultimate truth. Yeah, I'm a Magician. Thanks for your input though, I'll definitely check that other video... getting desperate before bed, what better place to vent your existential dread than YT comment section, right?

[@vaibhavdimble9419]

In Hindu philosophy their are lavel of existence. And on ultimate lavel their are contradiction in existence and their are absolute Truth. Ex god is infinite but still is finite and can take a birth as vishnu. Sometimes we need to more less philosophical and more about accepting things with lvel of contradictions..

[@morominaolenmina]

Hello! Do you remember The Guy name Raul WHO was on your videos? What IS her youtube channel name? He IS also spiritual seeker😊

[@TheDiamondNet]

Do you mean Rali from Naked Reality? If so, I haven't heard from him in a very long time. I know he ended up going through quite a lot and stopped posting on his channel years ago. But I haven't personally been in touch with him.

[@95TurboSol]

I'm glad you didn't walk into traffic either, your intrusive thoughts are dangerous!

[@paulebozymowski6570]

Watched. be conscious of your use of the word basically

[@ogyanabear]

i meant to leave a comment the first time i viewed this ! this is by far my favorite video on , & the best ( most clear & straightforward ) explanation of , the DNOS that ive seen . i hope you know how gifted you are ♡ your intelligence & wisdom is extremely soothing to me , though ofc underrated . alot of people in the community , even teachers i love ! can sometimes seem to copy & paste when it comes to their ideas on certain topics ; its like a big game of telephone , where it seems like everyone is solely regurgitating information thats been circling the community , as opposed to including their own unique experience & mind & heart as it relates to said information , & thus even offering a fresh , new perspective &/or gems to potentially add to an already existing ideology ( you question whether they even fully grasp & understand what theyre talking about before simply repeating it ) .. sharing the details of your personal experience was especially helpful b|c its so easy to see things with a different kind of clarity when looking from the outside in , at another persons experience .. but not so much when youre in the eye of the storm yourself 🥲 im typically good at integrating what seem to be opposing ideas , so when it came to your experience , the first thing i thought of was ( though id personally say one idea may be a higher truth compared to the other ) , in a way , its both . its almost like having a very slim piece of the pie that is reality or life , & the universe expands your consciousness & gives you another , bigger piece or element of the pie ( still not the full pie ) to help you on your journey here . its enough to make someone crazy , but its also cool when you think about it , to expand your consciousness in this way - with more & more integrated povs 🧩 , we get closer to God perspective 🌐 . they say objective perspective is the culmination & integration of every singular perspective . humbling . i cant wait to re - watch .. & to be OUT of this experience myself tbh . this is helping me to turn this experience into a " want " - a positive , expansive , challenge ( of surrender 👐🏽 ) as opposed to a " dont want " - something im constantly & desperately resisting & pushing against 🕸️😖

[@ordinaryvalley]

The truth was a mirror in the hands of God. It fell, and broke into pieces. Everybody took a piece of it, and they looked at it and thought they had the truth.

[@somethingyousaid5059]

The deeper the insight, the closer the suicide.

[@TheDiamondNet]

Not necessarily. Nihilism tends to happen in a more of the middling phase of awareness. It’s where a person has gained enough awareness to get out of blissful ignorance… but has not yet experienced that which matters beyond all conceptions of mattering. But that middle phase of awareness is very difficult… which is what the Dark Night of the Soul is part of. It gets a lot darker before it gets light again.

[@somethingyousaid5059]

Once upon a time I had hope. Unfortunately, I no longer have that. It's been thoroughly undermined by an ever-worsening perception that I have. A perception of what's actually the case.

[@hab0272]

If it hurts its probably a splinter of an even deeper insight

[@TheDiamondNet]

If you that’s what you’re experiencing, then your awareness is probably in that middling phase of awareness. I recommend exploring deeper. Also I’ll share this, just in case it’s helpful. There is a pattern that I notice with people who are in the middling phase of awareness. They look around themselves and see others who aren’t as aware as they are. And those people seem happier because they are blissfully unaware to a point where they never question the point of existence. So, there is no opportunity for the blissfully unaware person to slip into Nihilism. But those of middling awareness are more aware. And they start questioning the meaning of existence and they risk slipping into more Nihilistic perceptions. Now, these Nihilistic perceptions also stem from inadequate awareness. But because the person of middling awareness tends to be surrounded by the blissfully unaware, they create a duality in their mind that doesn’t actually exist. They start to believe, “You can either be aware and miserable… or you can be unaware and happy.” And there can be a feeling of superiority attached to this perception of being the “one who is aware of the bleakness of reality.” But this is just more illusion. If you relinquish that identity, there are deeper layers of reality still to experience and explore. And the darkness you experience now is only a testament to the incompleteness of your current viewpoint. Nihilism is nothing more than a human calculator error.

[@somethingyousaid5059]

It's in a world like this that HOPE is at a premium. That is to say, it's (relatively) scarce. But the more crucial insight about hope is that it _isn't_ a choice: indeed, it's a luxury. - To be more specific about it, it's not _you_ that determines whether or not you have hope at a particular moment of your life. Instead, it's what's beyond your control that determines whether or not you have it at that moment. - All powerful forces (be they natural or otherwise): they will have had the final say as to what was possible and not possible for you at all points along the course of your life on earth. - And that demonstrates just _some_ of the distressing insight that's pushing me toward the unthinkable. - I'm not able to _unsee_ what I've already seen you know. No doubt it would make all the difference for me if I _could_ unsee it. -

[@ducanridesintobattlewearin4350]

You have a lot of good things to say, but you have a lot of filler phrases that you could drop to really clean up your oration. Not trying to be mean here but it is one area that you could get pretty instantaneous results from. Thank you kindly for putting the effort into learning about these topics so that the rest of us don't have to pour through Jung's CWs. You really know your stuff.

[@TheDiamondNet]

Thank you! It's always something that I'm battling with, as most of my issues deal with the Throat Chakra because I hold a lot of unprocessed terror in that area of my body. So, I do a lot of automatic filtering of what I say and it leads me to doing a lot of filler words. I only once dropped down through the terror and experienced my true voice, and it was very different from how I normally express myself.

[@ducanridesintobattlewearin4350]

All the best to you!@@TheDiamondNet

[@Kar-Kan]

But what if the caterpillar is better, or as you say, higher order then a butterfly? Think in "golden age" paradigma.

[@S.G.W.Verbeek]

Being a caterpillar is fine if you like to be one. Matthew 18:3-4 "³ Then he said, “I tell you the truth, unless you turn from your sins and become like little children, you will never get into the Kingdom of Heaven. ⁴ So anyone who becomes as humble as this little child is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven.

[@BrianSullivanopus125]

I am curious whether you have read anything by Mirabai Starr? After being sexually abused underage by a 'guru, she studied Spanish, travelled to Europe and translated St John of the Cross Dark Night of the Soul Her adopted daughter died at the time of its publication making the lesson of the dark night of the sense and the dark night of the spirit very personal an real.

[@AWAKEninConsciousness]

❤❤✨✨

[@selmathornton5489]

Not for me. Your experience sounds beautiful. Mine was WAY different.

[@GokuTheSuperSaiyan1]

Seems youtube has shadow banned my comment, sad

[@TheDiamondNet]

I see this comment. It didn’t hit the filter.

[@GokuTheSuperSaiyan1]

Okay I'll try again, using more censors

[@GokuTheSuperSaiyan1]

Maybe KZbin thinks that my long messages are spam or written by a bot

[@GokuTheSuperSaiyan1]

Ight I've posted the message now

[@slimdusty6328]

I'm agnostic. However, i don't see that atheism necessarily leads to nihilism, or a meaningless world. Because atheists still have children what they'll "naturally" love. They'll also still see things within their existence on earth and the universe, with a sense of awe and wonder as well. And being as they'll mostly innately naturally love their children, unless they'd have some personality disorder, then they'd also still have a bases to "see something what's far bigger" in life, than life merely being something what's only ever all about themselves, as well. Even to be able to see valid reason for conservation, and for concern for environmental issues and so forth, in relation to all living beings' option for continued survival, it's still something easily able to relate to atheism. So, perhaps atheist are not necessarily always unspiritual beings. However, this is off topic, as perhaps it's not directly related to dark night of the soul. Although i guess it could still be, like if there was some atheist who'd be busily stressing and tearing themselves apart inside while feeling bad about themselves, due to the widespread commonplace conclusion that atheism is directly related to nihilism. I speak up about this because i sometimes feel that perhaps such beliefs might have often been subconsciously used as a subtle form of character assassination. Even be it mostly being done unintentionally. And sadly, it's also another way to create the "us versus them" paradigm which powers that be, totally enjoy utilizing, gleefully, being as it's long been one excellent way to help to "divide us" people apart (ie: used as a type of apartheid), as well

[@TheDiamondNet]

I agree with that. I don't think that Atheism leads to Nihilism. Many of my friends are Atheists and they are all people who have a deeply held sense of meaning. And funny enough, when I was Agnostic leaning heavily Atheist, I was still very connected to the source. I just hadn't thought of it in that light. It just didn't feel right to join a religion because I just didn't know and religious people tended to wig me out. And nothing I had experienced prior to then indicated to me the existence of a God-like being. So, when I first had an experience of the source in my first plant-medicine experience it was like "Ohhhh! That's what it is!" And I had to laugh because I had been in deep prayer every single day of my life. I just hadn't realized it.

[@slimdusty6328]

@@TheDiamondNet i have never had any experience of specialized plant-medicine. Only a few youthful experiences with spur of the moment cactus-based extraction. I'm not sure what to think. I feel as if i've somehow grown to be intuitive. And i've had a feeling back when i'd been still a baby within a pram, as if i might have just arrived here on earth from somewhere else, whether id been having memories of another previous life, or what, i really don't know for certain. And then more recently i've wondered if i had been visited by a friend who'd only passed away in days just before this experience. Another time one early morning i had rolled over in bed and felt i had clearly seen with my own eyes the head and neck of a well-known dead philosopher, floating midair beside my bed, which to me at that moment didn't feel at all like there was any sense of threatening nature to it, at all and so i had rolled back over and promptly went back to sleep again. I had rationalized this experience, net day, by considering that i had been busy in study and research of this philosophers' theories and ideas a lot at that time. So, i remain agnostic. But i now attempt to remain more open to what might be. As well as what might not be. But i mainly right now feel motivated to do my best to attempt "to help" to bring more understanding of the nature of interconnectivity, i feel i can see, between humans and all living beings. If God might exist, and if all that is around us would be a "part of Gods work", and if God might not desire for beings' egos to take over, then perhaps God might not be so dogmatic about worship of himself but may be more interested in the loving care of the work involved in the wonders and awe of life. But i still have no way in which to feel im absolutely sure about it all. Other than to see very clearly that what we have been doing, with our destructive ways, has no long-term plan in mind

[@Gameking92888]

So it's meaningless

[@moes.d6548]

you are so cute