Tried my best to discuss the most frequently asked questions in the comments of my Dark season 3 videos. Hope this is helpful, let me know what you think.
@RohitSharma-bo5ex4 жыл бұрын
Can u explain how Charlotte named handy clock travelled in this series.......
@x-phoenixknight16234 жыл бұрын
Really helpful video! :) I have doubt that I asked previously but didn't found logically convincing answer. It would be great if you could help me out. If in the end, Adam's aim was to kill alternate Martha then why sent her to save Jonas during Apocalypse and have baby with younger alt-Martha? Why not kill her before that? Why even send her to save Jonas? Adam's aim was to break the knot, then he should have killed alt-Martha rather than sending her to save Jonas during apocalypse. Him sending alt-Martha to save Jonas was the reason of Unknown being born.
@MrOverhaul4 жыл бұрын
X-Phoenix Knight My take on that was, that Adam needed to convince Alt Martha that he is on her side, wants to help save her world. So he prolly made up some BS story that she needed to save Jonas from the apocalypse by taking him to her world etc. So that later on he can betray her and kill her, thus destroying the “Origin”
@saikatmajumder32844 жыл бұрын
I have one thing that I want an answer of. If Old Claudia used the Apocalypse time glitch to send herself on a different path to Adam, then why does she then goes to Adult Claudia and tell her that everything is finally going to end? And thereafter she supposedly goes back to 1954 to tell Egon that she's sorry and gets killed. Am I missing something here?
@melbtrip4 жыл бұрын
You have not talk about problem it called the grandfather paradox. It when you go back in time and kill you grandfather for example. Because of you actions, you do not existed and so for you do not kill you grandfather. Because you grandfather is live and you're born and then later you kill you grandfather. By killing you grandfather, you do not exist by doing this makes the Godfather paradox. Couple and child had car accident and dies Father builds time machine martha and jonas goes back in time and save couple and child by stopping them Couple and child are live and father does not builds time machine martha and jonas does not existed because of this can't go back in time to save couple with kid Because of this couple and kid dies from car accident. Father builds time machine and now martha and jonas does exist and keeps on going around
@rogermazuca45824 жыл бұрын
Poor Bartosz. Seeing his reaction when his baby is born and then when Silja names him Hanno. He knew right there it was all setup. And then to be killed by his own son.
@rinmartell26784 жыл бұрын
He didn't know that Noah would kill him.
@michaela99674 жыл бұрын
@@rinmartell2678 nobody said he did know
@YumiSumire4 жыл бұрын
Hanno is an anagram for Noah. An interesting detail.
@RB-bm7cl4 жыл бұрын
@@YumiSumire It's not Nnoah.. so it's not an anagram. An anagram will have the exact same letters and the same number of times.
@YumiSumire4 жыл бұрын
@@RB-bm7cl yes, not exactly.
@SimoneAkkari4 жыл бұрын
Claudia couldn't interfere in the origin world because there's a version of her there! If she had tried to change things there, she may have created more loops. She decides to try sending jonas and Martha there and it works because they don't exist in that world. I do think they are a shadow of taunhaus kid and his wife, which is also pretty cool. I love the ending!
@kdreamscosmos42794 жыл бұрын
Good one, it makes sense
@TheAndroidBishop4 жыл бұрын
This checks out
@YumiSumire4 жыл бұрын
I also think that's how Claudia knew about the original world. Because Claudia WAS in the original world, unlike Adam and Eva. They were stuck forever in a loop, while Claudia was able to learn more and more knowledge when each loop ended.
@sumedhsukhdeve91173 жыл бұрын
@Account99 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@rithistewartx59083 жыл бұрын
@Account99 😂🤣
@cgreen63694 жыл бұрын
I've now spent more time watching KZbin videos explaining Dark than I did watching all 3 seasons!
@PetePeppers14 жыл бұрын
Haha. I wouldn't be able to calculate the ratio of the time watching to time reading/discussing.
@paulestaras72372 жыл бұрын
Hahaha same
@1ndr4n4th Жыл бұрын
Aha
@Skater711 Жыл бұрын
You say that like you only watched the show all the way through one time
@rimpri Жыл бұрын
Maybe if you had watched Dark more you did not have to look for explanation videos.
@marioalbertofloresjr.52154 жыл бұрын
The only bad thing about dark is that now I expect every show to be just as good
@saisamarth75814 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@joelacosta8894 жыл бұрын
I've had the same feelings over other shows but not this, I think dark is overrated I mean I liked it, but I have seen much better shows, with much better elaborated plots, including anime, If you think that this is a good show, it is because you do not know other series apart from those of Netflix, as I say, there are even anime that are considered bad, that have a better plot than dark, dark is overrated by people who don't even watch series casually
@marioalbertofloresjr.52154 жыл бұрын
@@joelacosta889 I mean, I don't dedicate my life to watch series, but if you do and find other shows better that is ok.
@isaacmunoz21814 жыл бұрын
The haunting of hill house it's pretty good man, not close enough to dark but good Not me, but I've heard that Breaking Bad it's equally good
@user-uy2zy8lh7y4 жыл бұрын
Joel Acosta okay i respect your opinion but like, dark is the most complicated series i have ever seen, have you ever watched something that hard to understand?
@kpmuad4 жыл бұрын
Imagine Jonas and Marta getting to the origin world, then being selfish and running off to live a normal life...
@MrTeok14 жыл бұрын
They should have done that, they deserved to live a normal life
@marioalbertofloresjr.52154 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought they were going to kill tannaus or whatever his name is
@fairfight98574 жыл бұрын
The Unknown will be born & the loop will be starting all over again...
@leafasleep4 жыл бұрын
what if it actually exists? in a different world/timeline 😁
@Savoy114 жыл бұрын
@@marioalbertofloresjr.5215 Tannhaus
@Spooky_Sunday4 жыл бұрын
The moral of Dark: Don't ever invent a time machine. Because if you do, you end up doing it not.
@Nnnmmmkkk4 жыл бұрын
"Neither ever, nor never"
@priyansusingh12724 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Mskhrisberrio3 жыл бұрын
I think the real moral is: Don't fuck your aunt.
@jansojele2892 жыл бұрын
@@Nnnmmmkkk bruh
@DefenestrateYourself Жыл бұрын
No the moral is the opposite: create a time machine to save your family. Tannhaus succeeded in saving his family (with the help of Jonas and Marta)
@Luca-bj3cq4 жыл бұрын
Imagine applying this ending to the real world. Time travel could have been invented in our world an infinite number of times, always giving rise to timeloops, that eventually destroy themselves before we ever know they existed.
@nouvelune4 жыл бұрын
🤯🤯🤯
@gravendanger4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if we’ve all gone through some world ending trauma but time travel was created and reversed this so we then never lived through that trauma
@ssanas14 жыл бұрын
Immense possibilities..immense multiverses..endless loops reality related to references
@orlandoalessandrini25054 жыл бұрын
Creation and existence are a bootstrap paradox itself.
@SirWeibrot4 жыл бұрын
@@gravendanger Maybe Corona ís the next world ending event and were currently living through it until time travel gets invented and it never happens
@khomu6044 жыл бұрын
I honestly think it was the perfect ending
@littlebirdstitcher92874 жыл бұрын
Never believe anything else.
@agneldmello89304 жыл бұрын
But with a lot of questions
@pairot014 жыл бұрын
@Chinh Nguyen Don't you dare compare this brilliant show to Lost!
@MixtapeMessiah924 жыл бұрын
@Chinh Nguyen Dark: 3 brilliant seasons, perfect ending. Lost: 4 good seasons, 2 shitty ones and one of the worst last episodes I have ever watched.
@shadytoast55652 жыл бұрын
@@MixtapeMessiah92 am I the only one that likes the ending of lost lol
@leftyknox724 жыл бұрын
Noahs time machine was built to send helge back to his time, so that he could grow up to become adult helge that helps build the same time-machine. Another loop in the story.
@anasarracena4 жыл бұрын
But couldn't Helge be sent back to 1953 through the cave?
@samstagszocker4 жыл бұрын
@@anasarracena The Stranger closed it at the end of season 1
@danzputra3454 жыл бұрын
@@anasarracena Noah sent Helge to 1954. One year after incident 1953. Ulrich hit Helge's Face. And put him into bunker. And then somehow, portal between timeline created. He see Jonas. Helge sent to 1987, Jonas Sent 2053. Sorry my bad english.
@imalwayssleepy79974 жыл бұрын
Danz Putra When Helge and Jonas see each other in the bunker, portal was created when the Stranger destroyed the passage in the cave. Jonas sent to 2053, Helge to 1954, not 1987 as mentioned at the end. Now, question is why didn’t they end up in the same place as Charlotte and Elizabeth did?🤔
@deepas20764 жыл бұрын
@@imalwayssleepy7997 Helge is sent to 1987 then with the chair back to 1954, but I also have the last question.
@FathimaMuafiqa4 жыл бұрын
Respect Martha for having bangs all her life.😧
@matcanary4 жыл бұрын
I WAS ALWAYS BOTHERED BY THAT!!
@crackills14 жыл бұрын
😂 😂 😂
@DieAlteistwiederda4 жыл бұрын
I had them all my life too so far so I didn't see anything weird about that.
@FathimaMuafiqa4 жыл бұрын
@@DieAlteistwiederda how old are u? She had them when she was a child till she was very very old.
@jannat-ulfirdausanwesha67314 жыл бұрын
LMAO! 😂
@janechoy20734 жыл бұрын
Adam = oldest man; clueless Eve/Eve = oldest woman; clueless Claudia = snake = holder of all knowledge Apple that changed the world = pokeball time machine that changed the worlds
@belaud3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been asking myself all this time “who is the snake” in the picture of Adam&Eve. 🤯🤯🤯
@ashoksrinivasan19053 жыл бұрын
H. G Tanause = God; created both of the worlds
@christianeokelly76684 жыл бұрын
I don't remember watching a show as satisfying as Dark ever. I am still bemused by the sheer amount of detail and work that has gone into making this masterpiece. And now... What else can I watch?
@debbielynn62914 жыл бұрын
Peaky Blinders. Get past 3rd epi...for some ...and you are good. Totally diff and entertaining.
@janechoy20734 жыл бұрын
The Leftovers on HBO, Westworld (season 1 only) also on HBO, and Devs on FX.
@kirangeorge84 жыл бұрын
Stein's gate
@christianeokelly76684 жыл бұрын
@@debbielynn6291 thanks Debbie. I loved them too and I can't wait to the next season.... 😊
@christianeokelly76684 жыл бұрын
@@janechoy2073 thanks will check them out
@himmatsinghpandor9504 жыл бұрын
Imagine a strong love that creates two worlds Jonas was his anger of tanhaus losing his child and Martha of alt world was his love and affection towards his child
@Akideoni4 жыл бұрын
reminds me quarks have moods and flavors
@garden62054 жыл бұрын
Great theory !
@Musaafir-ln6feet9 ай бұрын
I woild say the tanhaus son and son's wife were like Jonas and Martha. And there child being with blue eyes the son of them you can see that in the original world also. Jonas angers represents Tanhaus son and Martha like his wife as she loves the child. A wild guess
@KentoSky4 жыл бұрын
Dark should sell the Triqueta book.
@aparnajyothisuresh6324 жыл бұрын
Yes
@brontelee67264 жыл бұрын
I want that pendant too
@Vaatda4 жыл бұрын
Scene in "corridor" when they see each other is to prove, that it was all meant to happen. Martha says "so it wasn't a dream" - so she remembers this. It means they don't break the cycle, but just follow steps, they were supposed to.
@annmary13554 жыл бұрын
That's what I don't understand...will u please explain??
@Aye_ohhh4 жыл бұрын
I agree. I think at least everything up to that point was supposed to happen as it always has. Somewhere after is where they break the loop
@Vaatda4 жыл бұрын
@@Aye_ohhh yes, but I think that there was no "the loop" at the end. There were small loops, which made Adam think there is, but there was no older Adam. it was like with sending satelites into space, they go around Earth to gain momentum and at some point goes out. Same here - Adam was spinning all the loops to go out of orbit.
@eaglegadget32564 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think it was meant to happen, they needed the loop to exist, and they needed the bridge to escape the loop. A crazy theory is that maybe Tannhaus from the original world knew all along that the only way to change the past without creating a loop was if someone that didn't exist in that world changed it. Pretty much 7:43.
@michaljanco32404 жыл бұрын
I believe that that moment wasn’t part of the loop but just happend across all the times the loop existed. When they are in the “tunnel” they are theorethicaly outside of time and loop therefore this doesn’t have to repeat like everything other in the show. It happened just once but was “broadcasted” to the loop every time Marta opened the cupboard and Jonas opened the door.
@milton77634 жыл бұрын
I must say that the last scene of season 2 really had me dreading a crappy ending to the show. Bringing in alternate realities seemed like it was bound to take all bets off the table and just break all the logic the show had so carefully built up. But they did an excellent job with it! I was very happy to see they didn’t go with infinite realities. And with the storyline of Tannhaus’s experiment ripping time in two we had a fine explanation of why only two realities (though later they add (at least?) two more).
@EssenceOfTrance4 жыл бұрын
I agree. I thought the show went too far with all the timelines and then the other world. I thought '53, '86 and '19 was enough complexity as is. I still think Dark could have been just as amazing with just those 3 timelines. But boy, did they deliver and created arguably the most complex series and finished in a grand fashion.
@maryianna9124 жыл бұрын
i was so devastated by that! i even didnt get the first scene of the 3rd season where there are a lot of people in 1880s clothes - i thought writers got mad and made a third reality where all the characters live in the past. im pretty happy with the ending but first 2 or 3 episodes of 3d season drove me crazy
@ivanhagstrom56014 жыл бұрын
Same! So glad they worked it out so well! I do think they actually mentioned that there were infinite parallel timelines at some point early in s3, though. Like there is Adam's world and Eva's world who share a timeline, but there are infinite versions of that timeline. Martha2 saves Jonas after Martha1 is killed, Martha2 doesn't save Jonas, Bartosz stops Martha2 from saving Jonas, etc.
@IsaPerfectFilm5 ай бұрын
Same!! When The other world Martha appeared and said "it not a question of when but but world" I kinda just rolled my eyes and expected the third season to suck. But oh my goodness was it perfect.
@StepanTrnka4 жыл бұрын
9:29: Someone on Reddit came with this: It had to be Marta and Jonas, who travel to the original world. They're going to save MARek TAnnhaus and SONJA (Marta and Jonas). They are essentialy the same entities (souls, energies, whatever you want). They had to sacrifice their beings so that the original couple could live.
@SilBerKellySA6 ай бұрын
OMG 😮 Martha is written with an H, so in MARek TAnnHaus; Jonas is the anagram of Sonja.
@SilBerKellySA6 ай бұрын
OMG 😮 Martha is written with an H, so in MARek TAnnHaus; Jonas is the anagram of Sonja.
@manikandanm32774 жыл бұрын
The ball time machine is a bootstrap paradox, it has no beginning or ending. In S2 finale the martha that saves jonas is finally captured by adam and she gets killed. Thus adam gets the ball time machine from her and adam sends old magnus franziska with that ball time machine to world 2. They are the ones who will give other world martha the ball time machine in first place to save jonas in S2 finale. And also due to other world martha spilt reality. Eve also has a ball time machine which is used by other world bartoz , other world claudia in many scenes. So it has no origin. It caught up indefinitely in the loop without a creation.
@caretakerrr1234 жыл бұрын
man i never thought about this. I was expecting to be revealed how alt tannhaus made it but this makes more sense
@neoshenlong4 жыл бұрын
I thought the same, but there are multiple of those. At the very least 4 or 5 of those ball time machines being used by Eve's version of the travelers. So Noah, Egon, Bartozs, all of them must have one of their own, aside from Martha's and Claudia's. Both Claudia and Eva have such a better understanding of the loop than Adam, though, that it wouldn't be surprising if actually all of the balls existed due to a bootstrap paradox preserved by Eva (so that she can have all the machines that she need) and Claudia (so that she can steal it from herself and keep researching the cycle).
@balazsadorjani12634 жыл бұрын
It's easy to explain. Traveling through time is risky, see Adam's face. You have to have balls of steel to jump around in time like a maniac.
@jacklarkson45054 жыл бұрын
its called pokemon ball lol.
@halview4 жыл бұрын
Jonas “what’s that ball thingy?” then five minutes later he knows all the settings and times the jump perfectly
@leewhitfield74714 жыл бұрын
Another great video, on first watch of season 3 I was unhappy with all the loose ends, but on second watch, it made sense to me. We ain't ment to be spoon fed everything, this gives the show lastibility. If we know everything we move on and put the show behind us, but the mystery keeps the show alive forever, twin peaks is a great example of this....
@PetePeppers14 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It's definitely a series that continues to deliver on multiple viewings.
@JamieBarrington4 жыл бұрын
My take on Jonas and Martha's separate visions covered in black cesium was that they were manifestations of subconscious memories from being their loops countless times. A form of deja vu.
@Katz19644 жыл бұрын
Pete I’ve really enjoyed listening to you discussing Dark. Gonna miss all of this. Thank you.
@PetePeppers14 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. There is currently a Dark sized hole in things now that the show is over. Hopefully something will show up on the horizon.
@Katz19644 жыл бұрын
Pete Peppers That is for sure! Perhaps there’ll be some other questions and or ideas that may someday/sometime you’ll wanna come back and discuss further.🤞😊
@Katz19644 жыл бұрын
Pete Peppers I also saw on the creator’s Instagram that Netflix has asked them to work on another project. Although different at least we’ll have something else from them to look forward to. 😊
@nicocba20074 жыл бұрын
The scene in the light tunnel means this: even when they are sitting next to each other in the caves waiting for Tannhaus to start the machine, when this happens they are separated and each one start walking through different tunnels, and this because they are from different loops or worlds. So each one is walking through the particles flow at the moment their worlds are being created, and in their way to the central tunnel which leads to the Origin World they find each other's child version. This means that from the very beginning of the creation of their worlds a connection between them was established, a very strong connection indeed, which we can call it an "error", an error in this matrix which will knott both worlds, because this Jonas and this Martha are indeed from different worlds. That leads us to the next answer: because they are the "error" that knotted both worlds, they are the ones who have to untie it.
@raksdachamp55274 жыл бұрын
The time bridge scene indicates that of all the possibilities that were going to happen, this one was bound to happen someday. It was part of their fate.
@milton77634 жыл бұрын
The one concept I may love most about this whole series as it appears to be completely original is that, although it is often alluded in the series that this is an endless cycle, it both is and isn’t. In a sense, the events happen over and over again due to the causality of past and present being broken, on the other hand every time someone dies they actually die and that is the end for them. It’s only through the ‘exogenous’ factor of the journal that any new information can be brought to each new loop and any learning and change can take place
@manishbabu79814 жыл бұрын
Great video! I had a few questions. 1. How do Elisabeth and Charlotte travel from 2041 to 1971 after kidnapping baby Charlotte? 2. How did Adam get to 2053 after killing Martha in 2020 just before the apocalypse? 3. When and how does stranger Jonas learn about the origin/unknown?
@nosound59034 жыл бұрын
For 2 : I'm guessing that Adam used the globe time machine, although that wouldn't explain why he didn't use it to come to 2020 in the first place. 3 : I think the letter Stranger Martha wrote to the Stranger was the start to her sending messages to him in one way or the other. We know from the letter that she was in love with him but then, after finding out that Adam killed Eva, she became all evil out of her hate for what Jonas would become, thus manipulating him which acts like a catalyst in transforming him into Adam. That's just my theory. Just a heads up, I don't believe in Pete's theory of loop... just to let you know where my theory's coming from
@TZeldaOo4 жыл бұрын
1) I'm still lost in this one 2) What would make more sense to me is that he used the time apparat for two reasons: 1- he stayed within the 33-year cycle which was the limitation of this time travel machine; 2- he had one cause Hannah carried it back in time when she went to sic mundus and got murdered. We see a time apparat in the sic mundus building in 1921. 3) I would guess he learns it when he reads the Triquetra Book brought by Noah in 1920. We don't know everything the notebook tells, but since it was written by the Unknown himself there might be something explaining how it came to be in the first place. It is speculation but I think it's the only solid thing we have to try to answer this question with what is shown in the series.
@antoniopaveskovic19904 жыл бұрын
For 1 I think they used the gods particle in the ruined power plant but I am not sure.
@manishbabu79814 жыл бұрын
@@nosound5903 @No Sound For 2: I don't think Adam had a globe time machine at that point. He obtains alt-Martha's globe time machine only after the apocalypse. For 3: Interesting theory, you could be right. Although, I have to say I like @TZeldaOo theory better :P
@manishbabu79814 жыл бұрын
@@TZeldaOo @TZeldaOo @TZeldaOo 2) Don't we see Adam go through the God particle time machine at the end of season 2? 3) Oh yes, triquetra notebook. You may be right. There's a good chance he learns about the origin there.
@pranobt14804 жыл бұрын
The show that cannot be recreated by anyone else.
@odetteathina48114 жыл бұрын
I would like to find a way to unsee it (time travel maybe??!!!!) so that i can watch it again knowing nothing! And start a loop with that for myself 😋🤣
@Akideoni4 жыл бұрын
8:20 its funny how people are still perceiving time is still "in sequence", the bridge itself is technically "point of singularity" where all "point" meets(much alike that "interstellar singularity/tesseract scene"). the show gives reasons to show in first season, "Its not a line but a loop", the second season goes "its not only one loop but a numbers of loops(if connected at all)", in the third season, "the connecting points in between the loops".
@IgorFoukzon4 жыл бұрын
For me, Claudia really manages to break the deterministic loop (likely because she is the only character who does so autonomously, by her own initiative and struggle). The "never lose hope" Claudia kills her evil alter-ego, the "sagacious" Claudia - and becomes freed from any outer agency. Which makes possible for Jonas and Martha to make a genuine sacrifice of their own, and not just to get rid of suffering by a mere suicide. Probably the most surprising and powerful religious metaphor I saw in my entire life.
@pablodelahoz65774 жыл бұрын
Why do you think Claudia’s secretary had to die?
@jaideepkaiwart81264 жыл бұрын
There are so many things that Dark characters do just to confuse people and make the plot intriguing. But the creators don't have any explaination for them.
@theReaperette4 жыл бұрын
I think because she would have called the police to get The Unknown arrested which would have prevented him from causing the malfunction of the power plant which causes the radioactive waste and so the apocalypse and anything else never would have taken place.
@debdriev24794 жыл бұрын
She had the master keys to the plant that they were look for all episode :)
@yeshwanthmuthyala33434 жыл бұрын
Because Alexander tiedamann AKA Boris niewald be the power plant's chair man
@tobiast4714 жыл бұрын
I think everyone who isn't connected to the Loop Always dies in the two mirror worlds
@itschesta4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Not alot of friends have watched this series but I love it very much. And only on your channel and the dark subreddit I can talk about every crazy theory about this awesome series! Thank you!
@PetePeppers14 жыл бұрын
Your welcome!
@amraluiz52104 жыл бұрын
Omg, I know how you feel... They don't know what they're missing.
@unbekannt24803 жыл бұрын
The middle aged Jonas in Real life gives guitar lessons in Lübeck to a friend from me
@TZeldaOo4 жыл бұрын
My Remaining Questions: 1) Triquetra notebook timeline: The book is written by the unknown, -Eva gives the book to Claudia 2 -Claudia 2 gives it to Claudia 1 and Claudia 1 has it for many years (from her perspective) while she is working with Jonas and Noah on the time machine in post-apocalypse (neither of them know that Claudia has the book). Then Claudia rips the last pages and travels back in time and gives the book with pages missing to Peter and Tronte, pre-apocalypse. -Peter has the book post-apocalypse and it ends up with Elizabeth after he is killed, then she ends up with younger Noah. HOWEVER, in season 1 we see adult Jonas arriving in november 2019 from the cave and he has the notebook and I don't see how it fits in this timeline. 2) When does post apocalyptic adult Jonas go back to 2019? Does he have to wait for the creation of the wormhole in 2052 and travel through it? (it makes sense the hole is needed in the future cause young Noah is shown to clear the mess the hole in the cave became after the apocalypse) Does Jonas go back through the dark matter? (it is not told when they make it start functioning, and Jonas could go anywhere, but i guess going to 2019 makes sense - but why arriving in the cave if that's the case?) Does Jonas use the time apparat? (he has an old non functioning apparat in 2019, could he have used it for the last time to arrive then?) ---- It makes sense Jonas manages to go back in 2052 cause Adam says he tried to solve everything through 66 years, so he kinda respects the 33-year cycle. 3) How does adult Jonas gets the old time apparat in the first place? You could say there's any amount of apparats in the world you need to explain what you want, but creating this time apparat seemed like a big deal and there should have been a limited amount, otherwise a lot more people could have been time traveling like crazy. So I guess what I want is a time apparat timeline too: Tannhaus creates the sketch after receiving the blueprint from old Claudia in 1953. Then completes the machine with the help of adult Jonas in 1986. Jonas take this time machine with him to close the wormhole. Hannah takes this time machine with her then end up bringing it back to Adam when she goes to sic mundus. We see this exemplar from the time machine in 1921 in sic mundus and we don't know where it ends up (could it be the old one i'm talking about here?). Parallel to this, there's another time apparat in Claudia's possession that her old version keeps passing to her younger self after burying in the yard in 1953 to be dug up in 1986. Who created this time apparat? And if this is its cycle, why it never gets old and stops functioning like what happened with Jonas' one? 4) Is it just me that find the ball time machine a little to OP for no reason? It seems you can use it to go anytime you want and makes time travel look like a trivial thing. It gets even worse considering we see a lot of copies of it, meaning Eva's friends could do basically anything they'd want in both worlds. To me it removes some of the mystic of time travel and looks like lazy writing and a cheap way out if they messed up something in the story cause with it they can manage to explain basically any event. If we were at least given a reasonable explanation why in this second world they got so advanced in technology that they can create such a powerful tool while in the first world we have much more limitations with the time apparatus and time traveling in general. 5) How Charlotte and Elisabeth travel in time after kidnapping the baby in 2041? They must have gone to 1971 to give the baby to Tannhaus, right? How they could manage that? (I think the only way out is the pokeball, but we don't know how they could have it and still seems a little bit cheap - this thing can explain anyhting you want). 6) How Noah goes from 2041 to 1920 after their daughter is kidnapped. I know it is mentioned in the video, but I'm keeping this question for the record.
@JustinMoralesTheComposer4 жыл бұрын
Claudia has the broken suitcase time machine in the post apocalypse. Jonas brings that broken time machine to tanhaus which is how he’s able to finish building the one that he’s constructing.
@manishbabu79814 жыл бұрын
2) I think in season 3 episode 7 they do mention that Jonas travelled back to the past only in 2052. I assume he takes the broken suitcase time machine, travels to 1986 via the God particle, gives it to Tannhaus for fixing. Then he uses the caves to travel to 2019 and back (hence the reason he's seen by the caves) until Tannhaus fixes the machine. With the fixed machine, he attempts to destroy the wormhole in 2019. 3) I assume the suitcase time machine is left at 1921 and Claudia retrieves it (She has a globe time machine at this point) before the unknown torch the sic Mundus lair. So this is the time machine she gives to her younger self which stops working after the apocalypse in 2020. She has it until 2052 and then stranger Jonas takes it for fixing. Hence there is only one time machine throughout the show. There's no proof for this, just a theory. 5),6) I had the same doubts as well. No idea how they travelled.
@neilchristianauman85084 жыл бұрын
For your question 6: One theory of how Noah returned to 1920 from 2041 is that Claudia, knowing much more than anyone else after killing her alter-world self, sent Noah back without letting stranger Jonas know about it. As some of the dialogues have inferred, alter-world Claudia was trying to stall the progression of time-machine building in Jonas's world, under Eve's orders. So it's possible that the original Claudia already had full access to a completed time-machine in 2041 with god-particle. She used it to send Noah back while lying to Jonas that the machine still needed commissioning, for another decade.
@Katz19644 жыл бұрын
Neil Christian Auman In adding to #6, Noah loved Elizabeth. How could he just leave her what seems like sometime without returning for her?
@neilchristianauman85084 жыл бұрын
@@Katz1964 Honestly, I can't fully answer this question. Noah may have his reasons why he didn't return to Adult Elizabeth yet. Here are my thoughts though, I think that Noah's main goal in going back in the past and following Adam is so that he can find Charlotte. So it is possible that Noah planned to return to Elizabeth after finding Charlotte. But, as shown in season 2, after Noah finally finds Charlotte (adult version), instead of bringing Charlotte with him back to Adult Elizabeth, Noah instead went back to Adam and attempted to kill him. However, he fails and he was then killed by Agnes.
@Firestorm8154 жыл бұрын
I think Adam's and Eva's worlds were erased in one reality, but they still exist in another. Quantum entanglement. The only way Jonas and Martha could've prevented the car accident is if the reality exists where Tannhaus is devastated by the death of his son which pushes him to create the time machine and inadvertently split the world into a triquetra of pain and death. It's sad, but it's the only way to explain what happened while keeping with the logic established by all the events of the show. The existence of these two worlds and the suffering of everyone in them is the sacrifice needed to keep the Tannhauses alive. A reality now exists where Marek and Sonja and the baby never die and Tannhaus is never sad. Another way I like to look at it, is Marek and Sonja and the baby's deaths, and Tannhaus's subsequent experimentation with time travel, created the other worlds as tumors that grew out of each side of Origin World. Two cancerous lesions full of incest and death and nuclear disaster, that exist parallel to an Origin World where the Tannhaus family lives happily ever after. And to the characters in Origin World, as in the final dinner party scene, those worlds exist as mere ideas or dreams or flashes of déjà vu. It's like Schrödinger's cat. Those worlds only truly exist if you go in and look at them. Just like there is an acceptable reality where the cat is alive, there's an acceptable reality where Adam and Eva's worlds don't exist. The show ending with the dinner scene in Origin World is a perfect artistic choice. It ends the shows on a good and hopeful note, instead of showing anything from the other two worlds where the characters are living in dysfunctional realities of pain and death.
@joshithar12584 жыл бұрын
Nice interpretation!
@crystalawen4 жыл бұрын
? Of course they dont exist.. That’s the whole point of the story ; Jonas & Martha sacrificed their love & connection and stopped the building of the time travel machine : therefore ‘stopping’ those 2 hellish realities from unfolding...
@crystalawen4 жыл бұрын
Remember - After the car accident was prevented - the reality where Tannhaus was upset obviously didn’t exist.. so those 2 worlds ceased to exist.
@JustSeiyin4 жыл бұрын
@@crystalawen the point this was is trying to make is how could Jonas and Martha prevent the crash if they never existed
@Firestorm8154 жыл бұрын
@@crystalawen yes but they couldn't have made that sacrifice and prevented the accident unless they exist in the first place. Having said that, I do think that the end was made slightly vague so a bunch of interpretations still stand. Yours is the most obvious interpretation, but if you look deeper you'll see that no reality can exist compelety independently from the other. I think that's what the writers were hinting at with Hannah's déjà vu in the last scene.
@78deathface4 жыл бұрын
I may be a psycho, but I would have LOVED it if Jonas and Martha had caused the accident that led to Tannhauser inventing time travel. It would have just been so perfectly bleak... Edit: also, I’m not sure the ending they showed us is a happy ending after all. There are 3 worlds connected that all loop together. We see that Jonas and Martha are still born and exist in the third/origin world, although with different parents. I think Tannhauser invented time travel anyway, the point where the power goes out and Hana feels Deja Vu happens when this machine is switched on in the third/“origin” world. The final world is not the origin of the loop, it’s just part of the BIGGER loop. If you watch it again and think about it, it makes much more sense thematically with the whole series.
@PetePeppers14 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of people that feel the same. I like the ending they gave us, but wouldn't have been surprised if they went that direction.
@newrick4 жыл бұрын
there wouldnt be any sense in the third season actually
@leewhitfield74714 жыл бұрын
Yeah they played with us on that scene, when the car swerved...
@stonks10324 жыл бұрын
That was possible if we had another season
@kakofps4 жыл бұрын
I totally freaked out in that scene. I was thinking oh god please no no no
@Lougikiro3 жыл бұрын
It's impossible that everything happened this one time, we know this because at the end of the show, all timeline characters are aware of the knot ending as they fade despite not completing their full life cycle. We also know Claudia didn't choose to kill alt Claudia that one time either because she got the answer from Alt Claudia that she had never met her older self (meaning she died every time)
@PhilOrth4 жыл бұрын
I was a little dissatisfied with the ending at first but as I’ve had tome to digest it, I’ve come to appreciate how well they did and really like it.
@milton77634 жыл бұрын
Great work again Pete! After Twin Peaks - The Return this mist have felt like a pretty straightforward narrative 😅
@rzidnee4 жыл бұрын
Pete can you please do a video about Agnes? Her story is still pretty confusing to me.
@hassanalkhalaf11153 жыл бұрын
Yeah right I don't get what's her motivation to follow Adam
@brent41384 жыл бұрын
I also have been thinking that Jonas and Martha were literally angels brought to life by meddling with God/Time and they found the way to be the guardians they were meant to be. Lots of angel wing imagery and Bible verses and references to time being God. Also the way the dissolve is like returning to heaven.
@KainedbutAble1234 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: Pete is actually Baran Bo Odar.
@ayushbhardwaj97334 жыл бұрын
Who is pete? N who is baran bo odar?
@ujjawalprakash32684 жыл бұрын
@@ayushbhardwaj9733 baran bo odar director h iska
@fenstrator59404 жыл бұрын
Ayush Bhardwaj pete is the the youtuber that uploaded this video
@jim225122514 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks for helping us navigate this, Pete
@charlieliu11804 жыл бұрын
One of my theory of how Noah returned to 1920s from 2041 is that Claudia, knowing much more than anyone else after killing her alter-world self, sent him back without letting stranger Jonas know about it. As some of the dialogues have inferred, alter-world Claudia was trying to stall the progression of time-machine building in Jonas's world, under Eve's orders. So it's possible that the original Claudia had already had full access to a completed time-machine in 2041 with god-particle. She used it to send Noah back while lying to Jonas that the machine still needed commissioning, for another decade. P. S. I have also heard people saying Claudia used the golden globe to do so. But I don't think that's the case. It seems she was very careful NOT to show anyone the golden globe that she took from her alter-self after killing her. It only made sense since she had a master-plan to deceive everyone else.
@neilchristianauman85084 жыл бұрын
Great theory! This actually makes sense.
@neilchristianauman85084 жыл бұрын
I also agree that it would be more likely that Claudia used the dark matter time machine to send Noah to the 1920s rather than using the ball time machine..
@M4DS_GAMING4 жыл бұрын
But the god particle hasn't been stabilized in the 2041. Then how Noah travelled from 2041 to 1921(where Adam was waiting for him). The particle got stabilized in 2053(Old Claudia tells Adult Jonas to repeat everything for his younger self) Remember! [Passage, God Particle, Suitcase Time Machine all destroyed in 2020 apocalypse, then how Noah travelled from 2041 to 1921???]
@neilchristianauman85084 жыл бұрын
@@M4DS_GAMING Yup, you are right that it was shown that the god particle was only stabilized in 2053. But also, we know that original Claudia was stalling the completion of god particle stabilization because this is what Eva ordered her to. So there is a "possibility" that Claudia already knows how to stabilize the god particle even at 2041, she just doesn't tell Jonas yet, because as I have mentioned, she purposely stalls its stabilization for Jonas.
@M4DS_GAMING4 жыл бұрын
@@neilchristianauman8508 so you're saying that Adult Claudia helped Noah to reach 1921? They should've atleast added that scene
@martinsoucy11854 жыл бұрын
What I wonder is why H.G. Tannhaus, having a time machine brought to him on a silver plate in the offshoot worlds, wouldn't try to use it to save his son and his family. That makes him drastically different from his origin world self...
@balazsadorjani12634 жыл бұрын
Good point! Maybe he tried. Perhaps he was the truck driver....
@fazalroxx4 жыл бұрын
Now he has a daughter whom he can take care of as replacement. So the daughter is compensating that
@martinsoucy11854 жыл бұрын
@@fazalroxxGood point. Though, I can see how that might prevent him from obsessively designing and building a time machine, but not from using one that was given to him.
@jaredjenkins994 жыл бұрын
This is a great point, can't believe I haven't seen this question somewhere else. They should have given us something to look back at, like a scene where he's looking at one of the time machines with great interest, curiosity and sadness. Then maybe a young Charlotte walks in the room or he looks at a picture of her, and he decides not to. Or something simple like that. Then we could look back after the ending and that scene would make much more sense.
@OneEyedCloud013 жыл бұрын
H.G Tannhaus wouldn't do it because Charlotte exists. He says this when speaking to her as a teen by stating "My place isn't in the past, it's in the present with you."
@LeeLe4124 жыл бұрын
1) I think Agnes went back to the 50's to be with Egon's wife, and that's because she seemed truly happy when Claudia gave her her blessings to the relationship. She had nothing left to do, so why not continue her affair? 2) I think the images of Mikkel and Martha covered in the black matter are images of deja vu. Instead of having a feeling of it like characters usually do in the show, they actually see it. One of the theories I believe in is that all the characters possess memories of all their past lives and cycles which give them that deja vu feeling. They subconsciously know what will happen and Claudia uses that to her advantage. It was said that each cycle has a bit of a change and with so many cycles, there are enough changes to break the cycle. Like in Westworld, due to repeating the same process so many times, the robots start gaining self awareness and are able to change their lives. So Jonas saw his dad covered in the substance that causes time travel, as he will later find out. And Alt Martha saw Martha from the first world in the dress because that was a turning point in her relationship with Jonas, covered in the black goo that will cause all their chaos. 3) There are two pictures of the Kahnwald family, because they probably came from a series of photos that were taken that day and each family member owns a certain picture from that series. Hanna ripped Innes's face off since she doesn't like her. 4) Noah created the time machine for personal purposes: to try and get back Charlotte, most likely by going back in time and making sure she won't be kidnapped. He said that he is trying to save humanity. In his eyes, saving his daughter will change the cycle and in the long run, the boys won't be killed due to the changed loop. The new future will help him and everyone else. So he is sacrificing little boys to experiment now thinking that they will get to live in post-change future cycles. 5) Eve's purpose to keep the loop going is not because she loves her son so much, but because in her eyes, even the short or painful lives the people in Winden had are still worth living. So by making sure the cycle continues, she is making sure that her family and other town people get a chance to live. Alt Martha had a very normal life along her family until a few days before the apocalypse, so those happy moments that people got to live will continue happening if she keeps the loop going. Eve is the side of life and Adam is the side of death, he prefers to kill everything. The good moments in life do not compensate the bad ones in his eyes. Claudia found a third option that includes both world views, killing anyone who was born resulting of time traveling but still making sure some characters get to live.
@jansojele2892 жыл бұрын
I mean alt Martha just wants to keep his son alive, that's why she protects the knot at all costs That's the theme of the whole series, everyone is doing what they're doing because they want to save/protect their children: Ulrich and Katharina, Noah, alt Martha, Claudia (she succeds), tannhaus in the origin world (he also succeds, ironically enough) It's all about their love to their children
@LeeLe4122 жыл бұрын
@@jansojele289 she doesn't seem to love her son so much, but maybe it's part of her motivation🤷 I think it's more to do with letting the people of Winden live their lives over and over again because she thinks it's worth it, even if there are bad moments and experiences, pretty much the opposite to Adam's approach.
@jansojele2892 жыл бұрын
@@LeeLe412 ikr she doesn't, that's what I thought too But like, what you said made less sense to me She really wants to keep all this shit happening an INFINITE numer of times? Just because she had a fine childhood? Also his family dies in the apocalypse, she really wants that to happen repetedly forever?
@jansojele2892 жыл бұрын
@@LeeLe412 the only reason why she does what she does is prorecting her son, everyone is making sacrificies to save their children and she is too
@void31014 жыл бұрын
Noah travelled back in time because the particle stabilized. This is around the same time Jonas transitioned into the stranger and started his events in season 1. They both traveled after Claudia stabilizes the particle.
@your_opponent7 ай бұрын
Makes sense!
@EthanCT3 жыл бұрын
IMHO you really fully understand/appreciate this series after watching these YT videos about it. And I thought Black Mirror was pure writing genius....
@MddMLarisa4 жыл бұрын
You made many great videos about Dark. Just wanted to thank you.
@andrewgarcia864 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Pete - great videos. Can you do a video on the origin and path of the Triquetra notebook? I have some unresolved questions about WHY the Unknown wrote it, how Claudia got it and why the pages were ripped out...what exactly DOES the book say?
@isanagill4 жыл бұрын
For the last question, I feel like they both see the people who are “sacrificed” for everything to unfold. If Mikkel/Michael didn’t die, the cycle wouldn’t begin for Jonas in his world and if Martha didn’t die in Jonas’ world, then alt Martha wouldn’t even come into the picture, and no seed (unKnown/the Origin.)
@tine4424 жыл бұрын
I think so, too. And they're coverd in the black material (which causes time traveling)
@michelesilva94914 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why micheal had to kill himself for mikkle to travel back??
@mikestan10004 жыл бұрын
@@michelesilva9491 because the events wouldn't occur in the same manner if he dint and because of that Jonas wudnt be born... So it had to be done
@sergiosarmiento43714 жыл бұрын
A lot of people died for everything to unfold. Besides, it doesn't make much sense for it to be just a hallucination since that would be the only time in the series that they had hallucinations, so for it to happen at that moment seems random.
@isanagill4 жыл бұрын
Sergio Sarmiento well, I think you aren’t wrong but it also makes sense that the cycle BEGINS with the sacrifice of these two characters
@dantescalona4 жыл бұрын
This is why I think Claudia did not end it all by herself at the end: When Jonas tries to suicide himself, he cannot showing he is deterministically destined to become Adam. When cause and effect are broken, determinism is therefore broken, and that is why Jonas and Martha prevent from becoming Adam and Eve both by exiting their realities (and thus destinies) as well as preventing their creation at its origin.
@ObsidianDoll4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, perfectly detailed. All my questions cleared and some that are open to interpretation as you said. Good job :3
@bioschaf114 жыл бұрын
Why does The Unknown have no name? If Eva's sole purpose is to keep the loop intact for her son why wouldn't she name him?
@nosound59034 жыл бұрын
it could be some emo/goth thing? Idk
@manikandanm32774 жыл бұрын
I think she didn't name her son as already the future self doesn't have a name. This situation is very much similar to jonas can't suicide if adam exists. So if future unknown exists without a name, he can't be named by eve.
@navdeepsengh4 жыл бұрын
To preserve all the paradoxes.
@crystalawen4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the older Martha was a nasty deranged woman, & maybe she thought she’d hide his existence better by not naming him..? She controlled him totally ; He had an unpleasant life really - always wearing drab monotonous clothes, he never looked happy or cheerful, & he was constantly being sent back & forth in time (in his threesome) to kill at crazy evas orders... so I guess not having a name was the least of his problems ..
@archmaesterrenny95694 жыл бұрын
The weird thing is that maybe he doesn’t have a first name, but he does seem to have a last name (surname)-it has to be Nielsen, from Martha Nielsen-because how else would Agnes get the name Nielsen? (Her brother’s name is Hanno Tauber, so her name must have been Agnes Tauber before she married...?)
@user-sr3xs9vu3h4 жыл бұрын
I think you could still do a q&a, i guess it would be more of a discussion with ur viewers
@PetePeppers14 жыл бұрын
I don't have any experience doing live streams, but that would have probably been a good idea.
@kiwturrocky4 жыл бұрын
Watching Dark without watching PETE is Incomplete 😍
@ThisIsFez4 жыл бұрын
word 💯
@EmpiresDawn4 жыл бұрын
8:30: I thought this scene was most of all an homage to "Interstellar".
@kratosnl4 жыл бұрын
Same, it reminded me so much of the bookshelve. Neat little nod.
@saadkah4 жыл бұрын
Same thought!
@krsnabir2 жыл бұрын
Teacher: the question is easy. The question: name all the bootstrap paradoxes in DARK.
@traxx754 жыл бұрын
The main question is...what happened to Wöller's eye?
@sujatanaik24484 жыл бұрын
Profile 🤣🤣🤣
@thekawaiislartibartfast423 жыл бұрын
He was getting a beer from Charlotte's fridge and was impaled by a frozen pigeon.
@agentorange85303 жыл бұрын
a cat scratched it
@134subscribers33 жыл бұрын
And his arm in other world
@wuhanvirus86813 жыл бұрын
It's been 2years when I last watched GOT & it's theory videos. But today when I clicked this video I could recognize this VOICE instantly. Your GOT theory channel I used to watch.
@MrOverhaul4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the amazing Dark videos Pete!
@russh53394 жыл бұрын
I like the illustrated timeline at 7:41, but I'd like to envision it in 3d, so that the knot circle is only observable if you viewed the whole thing from the side; outlined and created from the orange line of causality from the crash. That way from a front view, it would only be a thin sliver, but which ultimately had to happen to splice the continued time together to keep it linear. That infinitely thin eternity is only noticed in the 'real time' as that second of unexplainable deja vu Hannah has
@stan44574 жыл бұрын
Dark series has made me realize that even if humans discover time travel and decide to change their past it's of no use because everything will keep on repeating. A loophole to be specific.
@add34493 жыл бұрын
I don't quite understand why in season one, when older Jonas checks into the hotel, has to write on the newspaper "when is Mikkel." Because in actuality, he knows exactly when he is. He knows everything leading up to the 2050s. My only explanation is for that to be the slight introduction that the show will be about time travel and him writing it is really for the audience.
@milton77634 жыл бұрын
At some level, this show is like Twin Peaks - The Return for people who need more closure 😅
@katzillaaa854 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say that I thoroughly enjoyed these series. Absolutely brilliant, mind bending.
@rolexsir14064 жыл бұрын
i would love if there is another season,only fun everyone should laugh in the origin world
@megclouds4 жыл бұрын
superb explanation , cleared all my doubts about the ending. thanks !
@PetePeppers14 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it.
@blazewarrior87404 жыл бұрын
Winnie the pooh: *Jonas* Tuxedo Winnie the pooh: *Adam*
@TheSebiestor4 жыл бұрын
i found Dark purely by chance and have just finished binge watching all of it ...what a mind bending series ,,it was awesome ...what do you get when you add Twin Peaks + Lost = Dark
@manuelspinellijaschek2894 жыл бұрын
Hey! I was wondering something about the series Dark, during the 50' and 80', the town was in eastern or werstern Germany?
@isenhobbitz4 жыл бұрын
western, based on clothing and music.
@wilbimcs4 жыл бұрын
Great video ! I agree with your view on the spirit of the ending of the show. But I do like the "figuring it out during loops" idea better.
@danzputra3454 жыл бұрын
Dark is about; A World with Adam and Eve, they will never united. Meanwhile in origin world, they are united. Just my opinion.
@brent41384 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete. Love all the vids. I think they saw each other in doorways as children so they had an attachment when older and were always drawn together. I wasn't thrilled with the ending at first, but the more i think about it, and watch your videos, the more i like it
@scmikirtoumov86764 жыл бұрын
What's been on my mind is how in season 1 , Noah is being driven in an expensive car when meeting Bartosh. I know it's probably to add mystery to the character, but just interesting to hear ideas behind that. Is there some money that Sic mundas has that allows for this or what's the deal
@Anatolij864 жыл бұрын
yeah! and who was his driver?! that dude must have heard some weird conversations XD
@michelesilva94914 жыл бұрын
Sic Mundas had money. Adam tells Jonas in 1921 I believe, that he knew all the stock market deals or what ever you would call it. So I’m assuming he made money sent it back in time or went back in time with the info and made money from there. He had to have money to build that elaborate underground bunker, it was bad ass down there.
@adrianp22274 жыл бұрын
Hey Pete! Your vodeos are awesome, would you like to make characters' linear timeline videos? Such as Jonas, Claudia, Noah, those whose timelines leave us stratching our heads : )
@debdriev24794 жыл бұрын
But, once having the knowledge/idea of time travel, (from even before his son died) will Tannhous never explore it further?
@shreyasjejurkar12334 жыл бұрын
What we know about series is just a drop, there are ocean of things yet to discover and understand! 💫
@itschesta4 жыл бұрын
Do you think there's any connection between Martha & Jonas and Marek & Sonja? I read on Reddit that Sonja is an anagram for Jonas and MARek TAnnhaus = MARTHA. And real world Charlotte has blue eyes just like the unknown. Edit: I just finished the video and saw what you said. Fans just wanna keep Martha and Jonas alive in some way. That's what I think and that's why people are making theories about it. In my POV, I love jonas and Martha too much to let them go. So, I'm gonna think that this theory is plausible.
@PetePeppers14 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I get where people are coming from. It didn't strike me when I first heard the theory because of the reasons I mentioned at the end of the video. I also thought Hannah saying she liked the name Jonas gave some hope that they might be connected to the origin world in an interesting way.
@party.poison4 жыл бұрын
I liked how Pete explained that Jonas and Martha were essentially observers just like in Schrodinger's cat experiment but I also like that in laws of physics matter cannot be created out of nothing (total amount of energy in a closed system is the same), and since Jonas and pregnant Martha sacrificed themselves, Sonja, Marek and Charlotte can exist in the origin world.
@FuranTenshiFK4 жыл бұрын
I don't know.. I myself before noticing the fact that their names could be seen as anagrams have noticed some kind of similarities between the personality of Marek and Martha and that of Jonas and Sonja. Marek to me looked much like a male Martha with the classic problems with parents (just like Martha had problems with her parents in prime and alt world) while Sonja looked a lot chiller and calming to Marek, just like Jonas before becoming Adam. And if you notice these parallels/similarities between the two, and think to the fact that prime world and alt world were created and influenced by origin world, then it all makes more sense. This is my take on this theory!
@milton77634 жыл бұрын
I don’t think that the origin world being part of an infinite loop is necessarily what the creators were after, but is definitely one interpretation you could give it. I also _don’t_ think it necessarily breaks linearity in the origin world. To me the interpretation would be a time line going straight (the origin world if time travel is never invented) with a clover leaf (highway) in the middle. The roads on that leaf meeting with each other and the linear timeline at the exact point where time stands still for a fraction of a second. It means split realities where in one or some realities the loop keeps going (triggered by Jonas and Martha actually causing Marek’s accident) while there is at least one reality (the one we saw) where Tannhaus inventing time travel is actually prevented and time keeps moving forward.
@lisasimpson88954 жыл бұрын
honestly, i couldn't care less about that dude's eye. but i like that it became a joke in the end hahah
@Reinhardt19124 жыл бұрын
It was explaine by the actor and creators. Just when they start shooting season 1 he got injured, and the creators decided to add it to the show as an inside joke.
@NRiven4 жыл бұрын
I like to think the scene on the bridge between worlds as a point of no return, they can either return back and continue the loop or the meet the other and go on with the plan
@Narthaus4 жыл бұрын
My intuition tells me that when the time machine was activated from Taunhaus original reality, the millisecond that time stopped was the creation and destruction of the two looped split realities compressed in this exact stopped millisecond. How about that?
@goldestwoninetyfive28764 жыл бұрын
So great. Thanks for this. Now where's our S4 of TP?
@robdenicola94814 жыл бұрын
ok so my question quite frankly is how did Adam know about the second world(eva's world) to begin with????? thanks and cheers!
@fazalroxx4 жыл бұрын
Martha from the other world meets jonas/stranger in the 18th century giving him the cesium
@craigfrancisjohnson4 жыл бұрын
Great sum up of the big questions that can still be debated and investigated 😍
@dearjoan4 жыл бұрын
Anything we cannot explain (yet) will eventually be explained, whether through the show runners or fans finding more puzzle pieces. I honestly believe everything is connected and the creators did not drop the ball on any of it. We just don't fully understand it all at this point.
@neilchristianauman85084 жыл бұрын
If Adam hasn't understood all that has happened even after 66 years, how can we undertand all of it in just a couple of days/weeks? jk hehe
@abhijit_birje4 жыл бұрын
The other people in Sic Mundus were housekeeping staff! 😄
@PetePeppers14 жыл бұрын
It's a big place. Someone has to keep it tidy.
@অহরনিশঅধরা4 жыл бұрын
If adam didn't know about alternate reality or quantum mechanics..then why didnt have any doubt in his mind "how martha can get pregnant because they didn't meet before 1888"
@dannymx94864 жыл бұрын
good point
@sinontherocks4 жыл бұрын
I still don’t get the pregnancy stuff
@ondrejpodhorsky13554 жыл бұрын
Only question for which i cant find any answers.
@danilkadjakonovic34794 жыл бұрын
imo Adam believes he knows it all, but is actually clueless
@caretakerrr1234 жыл бұрын
He’s seen the logo of his own damn organization for decades and he never thought that a triqueta is a reflection of three things not two. My man, adam...
@banalatadas36204 жыл бұрын
Thank You So Much for clearing our doubts❤
@ericrobins51884 жыл бұрын
I like to think about the power of three in the show. Jonas only existed in ONE of the worlds. Marta existed in TWO of the worlds. The white witch existed in all THREE worlds
@jaredjenkins994 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Jonas existed in one of the worlds but there were THREE versions of him from that world. The 1st who was saved by alt-Martha, the 2nd ran into the basement, and the 3rd who was saved by Adam. And I believe there were also three Marthas, the 1st who saved Jonas, the 2nd who was killed by Adam and then finally the 3rd who was taken to the Origin world by 3rd Jonas. And then I don't think the the white witch had any alternates so there was still three of her, one from each world.
@nawshinrumali3 ай бұрын
Elisabeth stabilized the god particles just before the portal was opened during the apocalypse whereas Charlotte on the other side their black matter which came out of the yellow can wasn’t stable that’s why when they touched each other Charlotte was transported but Elisabeth wasn’t!
@kiwturrocky4 жыл бұрын
What happened to the chair time machine through which the child Helge travelled ?? Was it using this machine that Noah went back in time after Charlotte was kidnapped?
@PetePeppers14 жыл бұрын
I don't know what happened to it, but I suspect Noah actually traveled back later than how it looked based on how they cut that scene. The answer may be as simple as he didn't leave until years later.
@shobhitmishra1264 жыл бұрын
@@PetePeppers1 if u see season 1 there you would find that where this chair was there also a television was present.And in that television Hg tannhuass was teaching something
@seetharamram63004 жыл бұрын
I think Noah time travelled to '86 as how Jonas travelled to 1921. I think he's just following what was written in Triquetra book.
@alissoncandatem18964 жыл бұрын
@@shobhitmishra126 And that tannhaus looked liked a alternative version of the Prime world tannhaus. Idk it looks like they were heading into something else with some scenes that in the end it didn't make sense or it was left for an open interpretation.
@GHANIRVANA4 жыл бұрын
1) In the last scene of season 1 Jonas went to 2052 and Helge went to 1986 (November 1986). Helge was missing in 1953, 8 months later in June 1987, Noah sent Helge to June 1954 by using the chair. But I don't know what Helge did in that 8 months. 2) I think Noah didn't travel in time. He was angry and he just promised to Elizabeth that he will find Charlotte. First time they could control Black Natter was November 2052. Claudia went to his younger self, Jonas went to 2019 and tried to turn off caves, Noah went to 1920.
@krsnabir2 жыл бұрын
12:45 Noah didn't travel through time he grew up there with Elizabeth.
@alokupadhyay14704 жыл бұрын
All in all I can say is that 3 seasons were not enough for this masterpiece. We need atleast one more season.
@milton77634 жыл бұрын
WRRRROOONGGG! Typical error with these types of shows is that the studio pushes for more and more seasons until the thing turns to shit. Case in point: Lost
@janechoy20734 жыл бұрын
the showrunners themselves said 3 was all that was planned for and needed, and I personally agree.
@Reinhardt19124 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what makes some shows go out of rails. The american TV mentality. No, the show was conceived to be 3 seasons only, and that fitted perfectly to its narrative.
@forthphoto3 жыл бұрын
I have few things I don't like/understand. 1. Our original Jonas and Martha die. For me there is no food ending. 2. After the time machine accident what are the chances for power plant accident happening first (later they force it to keep everything happening, but if it didn't happen in two alternative world's in first place then they wouldn't be able to go back in time, force it and keeping the loop alive. The time travel wouldn't be possible without Eva using time travel to make time travel possible.
@rolanpaguia95874 жыл бұрын
Martha taller than Jonas Adam taller than Eva ?
@jelynmccann91074 жыл бұрын
When people get older, women are more prone to have their back bented thus making them appear smaller.
@stonks10324 жыл бұрын
They were young enough to grow taller
@jimmyolsenblues Жыл бұрын
season 3 cheapen my feelings for season 1 and 2, I love your work and exploring your older videos
@NassifKazan4 жыл бұрын
The Steinsgate was reached.
@Tschoii904 жыл бұрын
Nassif Kazan el psy congroo
@rafakingston4 жыл бұрын
Finally, some cultured people.
@SoWhosGae4 жыл бұрын
Gotta say this and Steins Gate are the ones who did it best.
@Tschoii904 жыл бұрын
@@SoWhosGae and back to the future
@nicodemasjohn71123 жыл бұрын
12:23 the people in the photo were Adam(sitting on the chair), Noah and Agnes (standing to the right), Magnus and Elisabeth (standing on the left) and Bartosz
@crystalawen4 жыл бұрын
You’re wrong with your Claudia point ; If Claudia always changes things - then she always ‘stops the car accident ‘?? - then No more divergent timelines - so she would have ‘nothing’ to solve again ??? The ‘story showed’ that Claudia realised there was a moment where time stopped, & she said that was when she got herself out for the ‘first’ time to explain things to Adam..... ‘If’ it happened ‘more than once’ / ‘every time’ like you suggest - that means that Jonas and Martha go to the origin world & stop the accident more than once - And that makes no sense at all.?? Plus she tells Adam he’s lived his life an infinite number of times... (and that was also part of the story) If people think the loop continues after Jonas & Martha disappear - they simply didn’t understand the story. The fact the authors wrote ‘it was suicide’ means - it was in their story that the 2 main characters die / or cease to exist at the end... So the end only happened ‘once’... I think they were both covered in the ‘black goo’ - as aspects of their psyche was showing them the problem - the caesium which caused the apocalypse. I think Agnes went back to the 50s & ran off with Doris. The different photos were simply different examples of the various infinite times the loop had happened... As for the bridge between worlds - I think that shows they were outside linear time - and their souls are connected outside of time :-)
@tine4424 жыл бұрын
Right! I think so, too
@neilchristianauman85084 жыл бұрын
Here's one theory of how Noah returned to 1920s from 2041. It may be that Claudia, knowing much more than anyone else after killing her alter-world self, sent Noah back without letting stranger Jonas know about it. As some of the dialogues have inferred, alter-world Claudia was trying to stall the progression of time-machine building in Jonas's world, under Eve's orders. So it's possible that the original Claudia had already had full access to a completed time-machine in 2041 with god-particle. She used it to send Noah back while lying to Jonas that the machine still needed commissioning, for another decade.
@crystalawen4 жыл бұрын
Neil Christian Auman : We werent shown how he got back - but he’d been living in the future with Jonas & Claudia - so it was either with the Tannhaus machine or through the dark matter.. and Noah only went back to look for Charlotte - & thats when Adam coerced him into working for him .
@neilchristianauman85084 жыл бұрын
@@crystalawen Yup, I know it wasn't shown how he traveled from 2041 to 1920s, that's why this is just a theory. I don't think Noah was able to use the tannhaus time machine because that tannhaus time machine that was currently in the future is broken and not working. Another thing is, do you remember when Noah arrived in 1920s and met old Adam for the first time, that was the time that Adam gave Noah the tannhaus time machine. Another thing is, the tannhaus time machine can be used to travel 33 years to the past or to the future right, so there's no way he can use that to travel from 2041 to 1920s. While the dark matter time machine doesn't have a 33-year limitation for a target year to travel. Another possibility though is that Claudia may have used the gold sphere time machine to bring Noah to the 1920s, but I don't think that she really used the gold sphere though because it is better to keep the knowledge about the gold sphere to herself, rather than letting Noah know about the presence of this device.
@milton77634 жыл бұрын
I understand the story just fine, but a loop continuing is a perfectly feasible _theory_: if you consider the bridge to the origin world to also have a junction (it’s actually shown to have a corner) you might end up with two possible realities again, for example one where Jonas and Martha stop the accident (as the version we got to see) and one where they fail to stop or even cause the accident, setting the time split scenario in motion. What this theory _does_ imply is that the reality where the accident is prevented does not loop back. Time continues linearly after that. It would mean time as a straight line with two inter-looping ‘exits’ at a certain point in time
@David-ws3rw4 жыл бұрын
- why is the passage in Eva's world centered in 2019? - why in 1986 in Adam's world the passage is closed, while we see it open in 1953? - the incident in the origin world, caused by Tannhaus, does it happen at the same time as the incidents at the power plant in Eva's and Adam's worlds?