Dark Souls 2's DLC Ending ► Explained!

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[@gorpo2766]

NO BUT WAIT, has anyone noticed that in the nashandra battle, SHE enters the fog gate to challenge you. Not the other way around. As if you are the boss that she is here to overcome. Through the whole game, it is thought that the player is the traveler who pushes through everyone else in the land...just like they (the other in game bosses) thought they were. We become the next monarch, only to sit at a throne and await future enemies. Essentially, by the end of the game, the player has become one of the bosses.

[@americancheese9103]

O shit

[@silas9673]

Damn son that's mighty fine

[@guywholikesheavymetal8814]

Neato

[@JohnDoe-si3sh]

PRAISE THE SUN

[@BeowulfNorther]

haha ironically you were spot on, since esentially the lords of cinder in 3 are basically old player characters from 2 and onwards, especially the final boss having all our abilities from 1

[@Sizdothyx]

ALL FIREKEEPERS ARE QUEENS IF SHE BREATHES, SHE'S A CHILD OF DARK

[@Melqhii]

🤣

[@ExtraVictory]

Child of the Streets

[@zextax2680]

Hah underrated comment is underrated.

[@MrRemorseless]

"Why are katanas so overpowered?" Katanas are Miyazaki's revenge on Western mythology.

[@Bleh1217]

Eastern bias is best bias.

[@Nutt_lemmings]

MrRemorseless yeah you dafuq are great swords so slow? Has he ever actually seen a great sword in real life?

[@duroorud527]

greatswords remain cooler tho

[@rustyjones7908]

I assumed the power was balanced by how easily they broke. I guess that's less of a problem in PvP. As someone who powerstances claymores when not in need of a specific element I don't think greatswords are slow. I honestly find them average in speed but that could be me..

[@youfailed3089]

@@Nutt_lemmings have you ever weilded a greatsword in real life? Seeing one and using one are two very different things. The start up on the swing is always slow while the rest is carried by momentum

[@dalton411970]

Seek strength, the rest, will follow. Man, that's such a badass quote from Vendrick!

[@RavenWarrior90]

dalton411970 It's not only badass on it's own... it's badass because it applies to real life as well! :D If your life is hard and you wish it to become better, seek strength and the rest will follow.

[@dalton411970]

Aye. I agree. :D

[@alvinlin8140]

RavenWarrior90 question how are u suppose to "seek strength" in real life

[@7fadi77]

@@alvinlin8140 by becoming smarter stronger , a little more famous and of course self respect , first find what to live for and the other's will follow

[@elfboiezu2192]

I also love how it can be directly applied to the Shrine of Winter... if you have gathered enough strength, the path will lie itself out before you

[@PabloTheDolphin]

Vaatividya is basically my entire understanding of dark souls lore. I never would have understood ANYTHING in both games without him.

[@Wittemn]

Thanks to him I went ahead and played the games for myself, his work is amazing.

[@mortarion9813]

Late to the party here but same. Actually bought 3 because of his content.

[@cliftonsargent1572]

Jakir Hussain I feel the same, I’ve watched my friend play it for years and never wanted to play it. I can’t beat FF7 remake on hard so this game is not something I will ever try but watching these videos I absolutely love this game the lore.

[@AwesomeTheAsim]

@@cliftonsargent1572 Comparing those 2 games is weird. FF7 on hard was eay for me. But who knows how many times I died on Dark Souls. You can beat the game as long as you have faith in yourself. If you level up a lot every boss will become easy.

[@idrissawane2059]

Same here!

[@kryskiller666]

"Your character could become a Legend" GIANTDAD CONFIRMED

[@aricvinyard]

Compare the DLC ending from DS1 to DS2. In both cases your temporally fixing the past only to be left with disparity. I can't imagine a permanent solution on how to stop the dark. That's saying if the dark is even meant to be stopped...

[@theman5000]

The legend never dies!

[@kryskiller666]

Edward Shizon WELL, WHAT IS IT

[@Freezaen]

BadassFreeman WAT R U, CASUL?

[@DeadEyeMaverick]

Freezaen WHUT RINGZ U GOT BICHT?

[@supremebuffalo6322]

VaatiVidya should be a voice in a From game. He would fit a Bard/storyteller NPC role quite nicely

[@eden4338]

+Supreme Buffalo where is the dot man... you forgot the dot....

[@supremebuffalo6322]

bob bob The dot! Shame on me. What dot?

[@CarthisMC]

+Supreme Buffalo No dot but hole

[@supremebuffalo6322]

PSpainter Thrust but hole? Amazing chest?

[@theultimateraceofsleepy5254]

Horse but hole?

[@JohrnyReport]

"Why are Katanas still so overpowered?" Supreme Top Kek

[@strange7s545]

You guys that complain just need to get better!

[@MamaAki]

+El capitane Eh no. Unbalanced PVP is something everyone will complain about

[@strange7s545]

Arche-Type Earth if you cant beat katana then you need to get better! just saying

[@MamaAki]

I personally have no problem with the "Katana fags" predictable movesets aside. They do deal a considerable amount of damage even on heavy armoured players. And since most katana users have 99 adp they get really annoying to hit. Just parry them is my advice. I can see why people complain at Katana users. They are quite bullshit. (Add phantom hits in equation)

[@strange7s545]

Arche-Type Earth after hundreds of hours playing i like when its a challenge! i personally dont mind whatever people use! people that cry over everything are just in denial!

[@MichaelTheRead]

"Your character could become the big bad boss..." Looking back, he called it.

[@beruang_xz3512]

oh my become true

[@cleoking6312]

SUNLIGHT SPEAR INTENSIFIES

[@nisi769]

PLIN PLIN PLON

[@sHmAaa]

''Inherit fire and harness the dark.. Such is the calling of a true leader''. I love Vendrick's voice actor, best thing of DS2.

[@TheSuperRatt]

Vendrick just flat out predicts the Dark Lord who usurps the flame in an ending for DS3. Which I consider to be the only 'good' ending in all three of the games, despite Londor being all sketchy.

[@I-Rex232]

16:45 holy shit he predicted the soul of cinder lol

[@afrocrumble8721]

I just thought of that myself!! XD

[@StyleshStorm]

4:45 "Why are katanas still so overpowered?" lol, oh Vaati, it's because japan.

[@thelaughingrouge]

I teared up from laughing at that.

[@muhseenmusthafa3769]

+StyleshStorm LOOOOOOLED SOO HARD AT THIS

[@TheIronBoat]

Try playing against a hex spammer ......yeah

[@wallythunderm5067]

best. just best.

[@BattleSpew]

I kind of laughed at that line, because it isn't really true. In DS2, powerstancing twin maces is one of the most powerful PvE setups I've made. Crushing damage is OP compared to the other types when dealing with most enemies. As for PvP, the sun sword has worked better for me than any other weapon. It's faster than most people seem to realize, and it's got tremendous stat scaling.

[@ryangrey8338]

Wait, so Shannalotte only liked me for my souls? I feel so... used :( she's just a soul-digger

[@NeoNitku2009]

We break her curse and gave her our souls. She showed us the path and now as a monarch we will break her... ( ͡°╭͜ʖ╮͡° )

[@irish_apex1094]

I ain't sayin she a soul digger but she ain't playin with no hallow-lows

[@grandpanoogie2665]

@@irish_apex1094 SHE TAKE MY SOUUULS, WHEN I NEED LEVELS.

[@Yceb0x]

🤣🤣🤣 Dark Souls fans make the best memes. On a different note, Shanalotte’s not taking the souls, she’s using them to power _us._ How else do we get stronger? And all while she gains nothing except for a further hope of finally being free of her curse. Others before us have failed, but we keep going. She’s faced failure so many times and yet still keeps hopeful (as reflected in all her dialogue). She’s placing it all on us, and so she’s giving it all to us.

[@gokublack8342]

​@Yceb0x I mean you aren't wrong but yall be simping too hard 😂

[@MnemonicHack]

I don't care what anyone else says, Dark Souls 2 was a great game. Maybe not better than 1, but it's still a Souls game and that puts it apart from other games.

[@therandompizaguy]

Ik right people always wanna start ganging up on dark souls 2 but it was still good, or at least very unique

[@Joricky12]

***** 'In terms of story telling it was certainly weaker' Ehm.....?

[@theepicguy13]

+Jennifer Winn being restricted to rolling in four directions is no better lol

[@knightofpartyknightofparty5294]

Personally I think the people who hate ds2 and then try to compare them in ways they shouldn't be compared are a bunch of nostalgic butthurt people I think ds2 is on par with ds1

[@mischuwischu4305]

+knightofparty knightofparty Demon Souls was da best! This is nostalgic! :D

[@jaketinsleywbc]

But...there's always NG+ crowns. *bumps into Lucatiel on NG+* h-here...*puts crown on her* all better! *hugs Lucatiel* Lucatiel: ...who the hell are you!? Edit: Lucatiel is one of my favorite souls characters because she embodies the undead curse so completely to the point that it acts like Dementia or Alzheimers. It really got me when she starts talking about her mission after recognizing you and then says "...who are you?" In an unsettled voice like she'd forgotten You were there. My great Gran died of Dementia. This shit hurts.

[@NightDweller]

:( rip

[@mdawni6933]

Sorry to hear about that, my prayers

[@mdawni6933]

@Covid 19 why?

[@jaketinsleywbc]

@topple yea, running thru on ng+ gives u another set of crowns. Right?

[@jaketinsleywbc]

@topple nah, I was just saying I could give the "Cure" to Lucatiel and then get an NG+ crown for myself.

[@TheFaisalano]

Vendrick probably gives the best performance in the entire game tbh.

[@pokotcho1824]

True king unlike the despicable gwinn who doomed humanity

[@porcu12345]

Interesting that you say anything after dark souls 2 should address the fact that there is now someone immune to hollowing who can in theory cure it. In Dark souls 3, hollowing seems to be easily curable. Certain items do it along with people. Could it be that our character in Dark Souls 2 came up with a cure after all?

[@jasonmercado5874]

In DS 3 youre unkindled not undead

[@porcu12345]

jason mercado But you still hollow if you follow a quest chain.

[@adambiewer505]

you are actually undead in ds3. i mean, you can't perma die, right? also, the games appear to be thousands of years apart. for all we know, the crown could've been lost, or perhaps our character has given up on the surface and lives like gollum, waiting for bilbo (you in a later dlc). yoel also had to brand you with the dark sigil to hollow, so maybe that has something to do with it

[@samuelflores7767]

He most like found a treatment, like the crown.

[@HandsomeGamerGuy]

Well the Firekeeper can heal it. So yeah, somehow they have found a way to heal atleast that. Sure you are still Undead, but not curesed with going Hollow. It's like one Character from DS 2 says. Every Hollow was once an Undead. But not every Undead turns Hollow.

[@billveusay9423]

"You are the only sane person in a dying world and everyone you love will fade into insanity" _Walks over to Benhart, Lucatiel and Rosabeth_ "Here, take these three spare crowns"

[@otroweonllamadoseba]

At least we know he found Strenght at the end. Lucatiel's name is still there in Dark Souls 3 and that means that the bearer of the curse found a way though time and maybe that's why in the end only ashes are rising and hollows don't seem to be there as much as it used to be. Maybe he's still out there.

[@TheYondaime008]

"Why are katanas so overpowered" - Vaati 4:46 I guess we'll never know, we'll just never know T^T

[@anothertarnishedone5960]

TheYondaime008 Because katanas are badass

[@flutterbutter2728]

+TheYondaime008 eh at least they don't inherently have bleed in ds2. In ds1 my main weapon is an enchanted katana and it does excellent damage on top of bleed build up.

[@TheYondaime008]

Ergo Sum agreed, i love my dex build in DS2 with the basic uchigatana and later with alonne bewitched sword :D

[@youfailed3089]

@@TheYondaime008 isnt the uchi also the katana from the guy next to the firelink shrine in 3?

[@joshuakim5240]

"Finally, a fate that doesn't end with turning into beef jerky" Idk why, but how serious the tone of this video is and that line made me laugh harder than I should have XD That, and : "And why are katanas still so overpowered?"

[@Tastingo117]

The fourth DLC: "Katana of the Forgotten Ruler" Features all our answers: - Why are Katanas op - Who was the catarina knight, who almost gathered all crowns and left one piece of equipment in every Old Kingdom for future wanderers (and did he know that the cycle could not be broken? Did he succeed in his journey?) - Who broke all the red and blue eye orbs and drove them into extinction? - How does Darkdiver Grandahl teleport between the dark gates? And how did he get up and down all these ledges without a bonfire? - Where is Kirk's armor? (seriously, someone mustve kept this shit, cause it looked AWESOME) - What happened to all the Primordial Serpents? Have they been killed by the person that crushed the Lordvessel? - Is there actually a purpose in lighting the map in Majula? - Did the Rotten actually place all these pesky statues in the Gulch and the Gutter? Did he leave his cave or command some hollows to do it? - WHY IS THERE A RANDOM ANT IN THE GUTTER? These and many more questions shall be answered for another mere 30€

[@globox123456789]

1. One DLC costs 10 bucks. 2. The ant is a discarded creation of Aldia.

[@abbyfromirs]

i can awnser 2 of them katans are op cuz they are fast and deal alot of damage and dosen't take alot of stamina and have a very long range the ant is maybe a refrence to some other game or they said hey lets put something random here so the player can get souls from it and they used all cocain they had and said fuck it lets use an ant with some hollow praising it

[@HandsomeGamerGuy]

Because Time is convoluted i'm late. So yeah, about that part with the Majula Map. It help's the Guy gettin back some of his Memorys, and also he then gives you his stupid Outfit. Oh, and it also shows the entire Map of Drangleic and were you actually went. Kinda nice to know.

[@streetsurf194]

Was this video made before the alternate ending was added? The one where you leave the throne room without taking the throne? Because that's what i though this video was gonna be about when i clicked it.

[@VaatiVidya]

Yeah it was, the most recent is 'the last sin explained"

[@streetsurf194]

VaatiVidya Thanks! Your videos are excellent, btw! The lore is good, but the cinematography and lighting is what really makes them shine so incandecently! \[T]/

[@Game_Light]

+VaatiVidya Now that I know about the first sin, I think this original DLC ending was actually pretty clever on the developers.

[@mattv-m135]

Olve Drageset o

[@asoernipal]

Wait where can I find this vid, a quick youtube/playlist search comes up dry, i know im hella late to the party but im super interested!

[@WyattWeir65]

Funny how you speculate our character might become the boss in DS3 and then we find out about how we became the Soul of Cinder.

[@ashikjaman1940]

tbh the DS2 mc is the least likely character to become a Lord of Sunlight I feel

[@iainkilcar7463]

I think it's someone else's player character that became soul of cinder. Mine would just run off a cliff.

[@windwolf7517]

I think SoC is supposed to be the amalgamation of every creature that was able to link the fire. That's why it changes movesets, not simply just having a huge moveset innately. Man, this series is so cool.

[@Kayem237]

@@windwolf7517 Yes the Soul of Cinder is everyone that succeeded in Linking the Fire, which the SotFS ending does not do. Everything I've seen from DS3 suggests that Miyazaki just pretended like DS2 didn't happen, and only threw ds2 fans a bone in the RInged City because people wanted to see it.

[@pelluski]

@@Kayem237 How do you explain Gilligan, Faraam Set and Fume Knight Sword then?

[@theragedizzy]

So we concluded that by the end of the DLCs, our character can live through the ages, never losing their way. Always returning from the dead, but never going Hollow. At 16:44 Vaati says "(...) your character could become a legend, or something." I suppose that means that... the Legend never dies.

[@Dorumon281]

Just slap an mlg logo on the monarch, and we're good to go

[@noob4liveseverywhere]

RageDizzy im supposed to be playing game of war right now, but this one player keeps kicking my ass...

[@jordancantrell6598]

Ozne is it the Legend OnlyAfro?

[@silas9673]

Giant dad confirmed. If you leveled dec we will hunt you down.

[@travisbewley7084]

Anyone else think that it's part of a greater cycle? Men become dragons, giants become arch-trees and on long fragment carrying all of humanity becomes the progenitor to carry humanity forth into a new age? I think the crown just made us the new Furtive Pigmy.

[@maxmazza2987]

Pretty well-aged idea, considering Ringed City DLC for DS3

[@Soundaholic92]

I was enjoying the pensive tone of your voice when suddenly "beef jerky". DED.

[@Crimson522]

"Or perhaps your character could become a legend or something like that" Or perhaps..."The Legend" *Giant Dad Theme starts playing*

I'm pretty positive that Shanalotte is the reincarnation of King Seeker Frampt. I will provide 3 proofs: 1) They're both imperfect dragons. Frampt is a Primordial Serpent, serpents being, according to Covetous Gold Serpent Ring, "imperfect dragons and symbols of the undead". The Emerald Herald is "born of the dragons, contrived by men". She was a creation of Aldia, but she came out wrong. He was trying to create a dragon firekeeper, one who would cast away the shackles of fate, but "fate could not be bested" and she came out imperfect. 2) Shanalotte, as Frampt, pushes the player to link the fire and to replace the current decrepit monarch. 3) Both are a representation of gluttony. Again using the description of the Covetous Gold Serpent Ring: "Its habit (the serpent's) of devouring prey even larger than itself has led to an association with gluttony." You can feed Frampt with souls and equipment. You "feed" the Herald with Souls, and she keeps telling you to "seek larger and more powerful souls".

[@DanteReaver]

Holy shit. We need to make this cannon.

WHERE'S THE BUTTON THAT DOES THAT?

[@theragedizzy]

That is some really intersting speculation. Hats off to you, sir.

Glad to be of service :3

[@fuckyoutubeforcingyoutomak1743]

But then who is my good old Kaathe? i fucking want my red eye orb!!!

[@sabbywins]

"Your character could become a legend." A legend, or THE Legend? Become. Unstoppable.

[@christianhengehold]

Giant dad

[@christianhengehold]

Christian Hengehold THE LEGEND NEVER DIES

[@lindi1108]

Ttzzz

[@maxinedobbs4360]

“Some argue hollows were the original state of all human beings” This aged incredibly well. Nice work predicting Dark Souls III years ahead!

[@Jakerocksteady]

Absolutely brilliant. I did not realize until just now that I had completely forgotten that in Dark Souls 2, my character had a family and life behind at the prologue of the game, but then as the game went on, not only would we forget, but I also didn't care that I forgot. Until I was just reminded of it, like my previous life had been forgotten and I had gone hollow. *Mind explodes*

[@lyelofallcrest9202]

The Souls Series, and by extension FromSoft, would be nothing without it's KZbin Community and internet forums. Not in a bad way, I love the Souls Series.

[@MRSketch09]

Your right, if it wasn't for VaatiVidya or EpicNameBro, I wouldn't give as much of a damn as I do about the series. Where as I like the combat system, (That's not saying I like the way the enemies respond to said combat system, or that I like the attack power on the weapons).. anyways, now I care more about the world.. although honestly now that its come full circle jerk, um, I'm thinking fromsoftware wasn't thinking as long term as they should have about this series story/world wise.. and painted themselves into a corner to some degree. Like where as if they listened to there American audience more.. they may have pulled off a triple A title game, akin to monster-hunter popularity.. instead there going to do like they did with the armored core series and make a bunch of 'B movie title' games..

[@365DaysOfPureGames]

MRSketch09 You do know, people were interested in Dark Souls and Demon Souls before either of those two, right? Ha ha, you should have actually been there when people said that Demon Souls was the most broken game ever, until you got addicted to it and managed to beat it :P

[@MRSketch09]

***** .. Yes I played Demon Souls long before I heard of epic name bro or Vaati. I never thought the game was broken though.. Except for maybe when I made it to the end boss... His move set, vs my characters move set, drove me bonkers at first.

[@sena167]

maybe that is the problem that those DS "fans" have with DS 2? They are just fans of DS youtubers. But i don't know that.

[@soranaru]

And people say this game has no lore.

[@MistaHahn117]

That's because those people don't like to have to think about it and instead have lore spelled out for them

[@Ireallylikepie22]

Lol look at how many videos he has on Ds1 and then compare them! there is still way more in the previous game, and it's not as much that there is less, it's mostly just that it's worse.

[@Ireallylikepie22]

***** Yeah but even with the DLC lore there is still less, and the entire central point of ds2 is contrary to ds1s in a bad way. I mean i think ds2 is a good game still i just disagree with when this person is saying I am do not like having the lore spelled out for me and honestly its insulting because Ds1 did this better than ds2 in many ways.

[@soranaru]

Zorblec Gee, y'know, that might be because of the fact that *gasp* Dark Souls 1 has been out for much longer!

[@yrazu05]

Zorblec I don't understand. DarkSouls 2 has as much lore as DarkSouls 1. The main difference between the two is that DS1 was a much darker game compared to 2. Both games have interesting lore, unique to their world. Every place in DarkSouls 2 has a lore, a story, and every place in DarkSouls 1 has a lore and story. The same with the bosses. The Huntman's Corpse, Dragon Aerie, etc have their lore just like Brightstone and Ash Lake in DarkSouls 1 have theirs. I just don't understand where this idea of "lack of lore" in DarkSouls 2 comes from. The only difference is that its less "darker" and more focused on humans/kingdoms, rather than the giant Kingdom of Gwyns in DS1.

[@GhalionRabbit]

excellent video. I may not partake in the conversations often but I do like each of these lore series. you put a lot of work into them and it shows.

[@electro9283]

Love all of these videos, give you a deeper understanding that I had no idea existed, and good job to The Devs for webbing this all together

[@quadconjures]

"Why are katanas still so overpowered" WTF I almost choked on my coffee

[@Dahpie]

They still are OP. High range, speed coupled with no poise = 3 hit stunlock.

[@WillNight777]

The answer to that question is easy: because Japanese made ​​this game! And I laughed a lot too.

[@yaboyswiggity]

Don't forget the ridiculous phantom range. "Hey look, I hit you from 20 feet away with an r1! Cool!"

[@skystonejexel2581]

Dahpie Honestly I think people exaggerate how overpowered katanas are. Maybe the chaos blade is, and maybe their counter damage could do with a nerf, but for the most part, I think katanas are pretty balanced. IMO, the most unbalanced things in PvP are Soul Memory and the ridiculous 1-shot critical damage heavy weapons can do. Going past the 150-175 range should never be necessary and only Climax should be able to 1-shot a player with any reasonable amount of health.

[@Dahpie]

Leet Jexel I will did throw some examples of why katanas are broken. Poise being different means katana thrusters can stop your moves 90% of the time. If you roll away from a katana the next hit is guaranteed to hit you. The phantom range is broken. They have insane speed always leading to a 2-3 hit stunlock.

[@Nagrandt]

Im sure there is at least 1 more DLC left. - There is the primordial bonfire of the Last Sinner, left to be "DLC'ed" - Primordial serpents have to appear sometime I guess.

[@zyenda]

"Why are Katanas still so overpowered?" I listen to your videos while playing other games, and this made me laugh so hard when I heard it randomly. XD

[@IRuTReX]

Vaati I just finished watching the entire souls related videos, prepare to cry and explanation , I would like to say Thank you thank you so much for the time and effort you put in these videos and the way you explain things it's fabulous .

[@86Revenant]

Does this mean the true King is Benhart? He never hollowed.

[@Jaimas]

According to the OSG, Benhart isn't even undead. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.

[@Jaimas]

We know Tarkus could use a White sign in Dark Souls 1 despite not being Undead (it's why you find his corpse later), so there is a precedent for it, but the fluff for the Dark Souls 2 White Sign says one needs to be undead. OSG says Benhart's still human. Either the OSG or the Sign fluff is wrong.

[@bulink5087]

Jonah Skiff dude if you find a dead body and said body never moves its dead, but you can also kill any undead NPC in the first game, and they won't come back

[@Doralga]

It must have something to do with that sword he was even alive during the giant's invasion of the forest fort which took place at least a century ago

[@Jaimas]

Archus is right, you know. We've already seen Benhart break the laws of time and space as we know them. He's like a medieval version of Paladin Hoss.

[@TheSeth256]

16:48-"Your character could become a legend or something like that" "A LEGEND" Giantdad confirmed for Dark Souls 3

[@afrocrumble8721]

6 years ago... You basically predicted the "Soul of Cinder"

[@TheSeth256]

@@afrocrumble8721 haha, I didn't even remember this comment.

[@RETROTITANPLAYS]

Theoretically, the crowns being blessed could grant immunity from hollowing to four. Vendrick didn't bless you, he blessed the four crowns, those of the Sunken King, Iron King and Ivory king... and the one which once sat upon his own head. Imagine then if there was an ending in which you decided not to link the fire... and instead granted immunity to yourself and three others. Four great Kingdoms dedicated to destroying the curse, picking up where Vendrick left off. Four powerful warriors, tested as you were... to make sure they were truly worthy of such a power. It would certainly be interesting... and if they were to ever create Dark Souls III, I would love to see this as a basis... especially since it could involve a permanent cure to the Curse, perhaps by entering the underground area where the first flame was born... by stealing yet more power... and giving humanity a permanent solution to their fate.

[@sven3540]

VENOMKYD117 Called the 4 great ones or maybe the 4 kings?

[@RETROTITANPLAYS]

Sven Stoffer Exactly... and if they were using it as a basis, then like the Four Kings of DS1, like all the lords of Lordren and Drangleic, they could completely fuck everything up... and your goal in the third game would be to finish their work, ending the curse once and for all!

[@Guille2033]

VENOMKYD117 maybe having all the power in one person is the best option.Think about the Four Kings in DS1. They were corrupted by power and greed,ending up being demonic beings who threatened everything by extending the Abyss influence. Maybe the fact that the Last Monarch(the protagonist in DS2) has earned this title and power through such a dangerous and difficult quest,making him/her wise and able to resist the corruption such a great power can create in a man's soul... ...or maybe he'll become one of the most dangerous beings in the world,the one we will have to defeat in DS3 if it ever comes to exist...who knows That's one of the greatest points of Souls games: it's all open to interpretation

[@RETROTITANPLAYS]

Guille2033 That is all very true, but I was thinking that the other three kings would need to go through a series of tests, to make sure they were strong enough to resist the chaotic power of both the abyss... and the inner greed of mankind. They'd need to be able to contend with their base urges in order to gain this power... and if they managed it, they would likely be worthy of a crown.

[@kotorfan100]

VENOMKYD117 But is that not repeating history in the same way? The one thing we've learned from Dark Souls is that in the end everyone fails to stop the curse.

[@just70hq]

I was in that 8% who were 13 to 17 year olds when this video came out; I was 16. I still watch every single video of yours to this day! Dark Souls 2 has some of the coolest lore and themes of any fromsoft game, and I would absolutely love more content covering this game and it’s dlcs in the future, as well as dark souls 1 and 3

[@risingbob5230]

I got this nostalgic feeling from this video. It was a lot like Dark Souls Lore videos where. Thanks Vaati, that´s the kind of videos we love so much.

[@mergedpotato]

"Why are katanas so OPed?" Ahh, Vaati, the moments when you drop the serious narrator act suddenly always makes me chuckle.

[@sethhanjora1298]

man Vaati your lores just blow my mind on this game but they put so much more in the game when i play so thank you and keep those videos going.

[@Uvioleyo]

I never regret watching one of your videos, hands down the best dark souls KZbinr I always finish the video understanding so much more and I'll always have a different perspective on the game. thank you for making my dark souls experience so much better

[@WarMomPT]

"Seek Strength. The rest will follow." Well, time to beat NG+7 in Company of Champions at Max SL?

[@Mrgarypurple]

Awesome video lad. Also from the content you put out, you are deserving of higher praise from the amount of work you put into each one. Keep up the awesome work.

[@wompastompa3692]

4:05 But, but I have 4 crowns that stop the curse. Can't I just give one to Lucatiel?

[@Alderwood69]

"The crowns only effect one person." What if I give one to Rosabeth of Melfia? Would she also be immune to Hollowing? And what if I was able to give away the other three? I mean, if I can give gear to one person, it should be safe to assume I could gift these crowns to others. I know the game only allows you to gift equipment to Rosabeth, but from a lore perspective it cant be unlikely

[@MisterBlackroad]

So far every DLC brought a new weapon recolor with it in the Majula Manision chest. Among other still unsued ones, there is also a darkened Rapier in there. So far every weapon reskin pretty much fit the theme of the current DLC. That dark rapier makes me hype for a dark/abyss-based DLC.

[@customercareskeleton]

ENTER THE VOID BECOME WIND

[@ResponsiveHydra]

i dont want a dark/abyss dlc... those are feels i dont need again

[@TheClaiy]

Something Stupid This bald dude was good.

[@TheMorbidHobo]

Immortality truly is a curse...

[@leslielucy5454]

Ikr but you lose all memory when you die..

[@Rav0ria]

Your work adds so much to these games imo

[@thegazellion9920]

This is really interesting to hear. Thanks for posting this and going into such detail about the lore and what may come next.

[@EdwardOskarsson]

"That's Hollow with a captial heych!"

[@diogocerqueira9964]

"Why are katanas still so overpowered?" Beautiful ahahah

[@housekelly1101]

I always like people like this. people that can tell you some of the questions you aways want to hear or to get an idea of it

[@kidando]

This channel is part and parcel of dark souls. I have no freaking idea how u come up with most of everything. But i needed it.

[@KaiserAfini]

Hold on a second there, Vaati. Are you saying what I think you're saying ? 1- "I am immortal, I have in me the blood of kings...." 2- There can be only one 3- When you beat a DLC boss, you take their power Well congratulations, From, you just made Highlander.

[@Neil4257]

i like that you videos are very mature and your not just yelling, or ranting while playing the game and not actually showing or telling us anything. thanks for being one of the few mature channels lol, i believe that deserves a subscriber

[@spynesso]

I just now discovered your channel and I thought your speculation in this video was really interesting. It always makes me happy to find other people who share my love for the Souls games. Demon's Souls single-handedly rekindled my passion for gaming and restored my faith in the game industry.

[@Rewster211]

If there is anymore DLC, I want a memory where we go back and fight Gwyn at the peak of his power before the curse, to cure it.

[@thoz7]

If there is any more DLC, it will just be a rehash of enemies from DLC's 1 to 3 probably and not worth the money. Most items seem to have a "From unknown origins" tag on them anyway, so they may as well just put in the description "We were too lazy to think of some good Lore, so here's your room to think up something for this item"

[@Rewster211]

thoz7 :(

[@tbonevideos23]

His hollowed to crap version of himself had crazy amounts of health and damage He should literally be invincible at peak condition ....... Challenge accepted

[@waj9876]

I'm pretty sure Gwyn isn't the cause of the curse.

[@Rewster211]

***** Gwyn and the others led to the bonfires being created, the bonfires held the curse

[@Kaikozu]

"Your character might become a legend-" So... Giantdad?

[@SilentSpeak]

Vaati, when I watch your videos it feels not like you are talking about a fantasy game but more like you are explaining the history (and sprculating) of a real alien world that was extinct or is to far away. What im saying is, iv never seen story telling done quite as good as yours. Bravo. And yes i am a huge fan of Souls and your channel. Keep doing what you do. You deserve every bit of praise.

[@vikbys]

Love your videos, Vaati. It's so interesting to listen to you. You sound calm, easy to understand, interesting speculations and consistent. I have no idea why I haven't subbed to you earlier, but I am going to rectify that right away

[@Richie_Godsil]

More Dark Souls DLC? YES, MOAR DLC!

[@MrMadness1]

I want From to make one final DLC. A DLC that will shed more light and reveal answers to our speculations. One that will give us a satisfying conclusion. We should be able to take of souls of the queens to resurrect Manus and eliminate him for good. We should also be able to go back in time to see what happened to Lord Aldia. There should also be more boss armors (Pursuer, old dragonslayer). We want an epic finale to Dks2.

[@DatChanimal]

Yes to all of that.

[@Iretm]

Don't you think that lack of answers is one of souls games biggest charms? It leaves us place to speculate, to create lore on our own.

[@MrMadness1]

Iretm There's a line between giving subtle hints that give us information which can lead to the true answer, and then leaving us completely in the dark with only our blind guesses.

[@waytvbe]

Then Emerald Herald gets a haircut and everyone has milkshakes at Gavlan's beach stall.

[@yaboyswiggity]

I want a dlc that fixes SM. I'm tired of Havelmages.

[@gyro136]

You put it so beautifully when you said are fighting to choose a side or are we trying to prove humanity can be the best of both :) touching and well done

[@Ma3str0o0]

Great vid, So interesting and loved the way you linked things together. Makes a ton of sense and even if its not true still fun to imagine!

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

The ironic thing is, most undead go hollow after either losing or fulfilling their purpose. our purpose WAS to find a way to cure the curse, and now that we have, what goals are left?

[@HellsingManiaco]

Well, just like Vaati said :o you don't find a cure for the curse, you just find a way to prevent hollowing after death. To cure the curse would be to become mortal again, and stop feeding on souls. With the power of the Crowns, you just become an undead capable of mantaining his sanity and physical integrity.

[@waj9876]

To do whatever the hell you want, and defend yourself from all of the undead looking to take your cure away from you. You don't really need a purpose anymore, you can't go hollow anymore, and so the only way you'd ever "die" (IE go hollow) would be either losing the crown to someone more powerful, or taking it off because you're tired of remembering everything you've ever lost.

[@thisstatementisfalsenothin5312]

I remember when people still thought dark souls 3 would do anything with 2s lore Good times

[@otroweonllamadoseba]

Lucatiel's name is there. And there's a theory that the unkindled ones are created by the effect of the crowns over the curse.

[@thisstatementisfalsenothin5312]

@@otroweonllamadoseba that’s a theory though

[@otroweonllamadoseba]

@@thisstatementisfalsenothin5312 Pinwheel being a family that got broken is also a theory and yet there it is.

[@thisstatementisfalsenothin5312]

@@otroweonllamadoseba it’s really not a theory if it has enough evidence to back it up

[@otroweonllamadoseba]

@@thisstatementisfalsenothin5312 there's not enough evidence actually. It just makes sence and it's a cool idea for the lore.

[@oliviachierichella1419]

Almost 300,000! Now its up to 991K, congrats Vaati :)

[@FroggyORTIZ]

You should do a complete Dark Souls lore video! 1-3 and the DLC in order. I would watch every single second.

[@lordofudead]

"Why did you come, to Drangleic?" Because The Legend Never Dies......

[@AllrondSoul]

Vaati, I think Dark Souls 2 should have a higher priority than Bloodburne, when it comes to content creation. Most of your fans (including me) doesn't have a PS4 (I don't even have a PS3, thus I'm not able to play what they say the best Soul game of all time).

[@HEARTSRULE4EVA]

I don't want to sound like a dick but that it is generalising to highest extent just because you don't own one does not mean "Most" of his fans don't.

[@AllrondSoul]

Judging by the comments on Vaati's Bloodborne videos, I still believe, that most of his fans don't have a PS4.

[@jessielefey]

Most people don't have it because there's not a good enough reason to yet (plus by now most of us without money to burn know not to pay out the nose for the privilege of being beta testers for the new system). Bloodbourne is coming out late enough for most of the initial kinks in the system to be worked out, and if it's even half as good as it looks can definitely be a system seller. So, since the economy hasn't completely blown up yet, just because you and I are too poor to afford it, doesn't mean they can't make a solid profit off it, because people will buy PS4s when they have a good enough reason to, even if they haven't right now. For me, that system seller might be Silent Hills, but I'm trying not to get my hopes up. Once I've got the damned thing, buying other games is way easier. (I love Dark Souls as a universe. I don't have good enough twitch reflexes to be very good at it, damn being raised in PC adventure game purgatory.)

[@caciowskij768]

David Pagan-Brown Dark souls (1 and 2) are available on 3 different consolles, while bloodborne is only for Ps4, which costs a bunch of money and has been released this year. On top of that there aren't already enough exclusives to make many people buy it, so I' m quite sure that Dark Souls should have a higher priority.

[@rein7046]

To be honest I lost all interest in buying Bloodborne the second I found out it would only be for the PS4. It's not like I hate Sony, but I really hate the concept of game consoles in general. They used to be good, but now that PC gaming exists consoles only serve to divide the community into separate corners and make extra money from people buying multiple copies of the game just to be able to play with their friends. Having a particular game exclusive to one console is really an outdated concept and I think the sales numbers for Bloodborne will prove that. (Not saying the game will be bad, I am sure it will be great, but only 35-55% of the fanbase will be able to play it.) Buying a new console is a very significant investment when for around $400 more you can buy yourself a fairly high end gaming computer that also allows you to do things other than play games and won't be outdated as soon as the next console comes out because you can always buy a new CPU or GPU and put it in your computer for a fraction of the cost of a new console. On the brighter side, if Bloodborne is as good as everyone expects it to be than there are plenty of people who would be willing to work on an unofficial PC crack of the game (Myself included) and we will all have our chance to play it.

[@itsippintimeyo]

Vaati really called out the secret boss and ending for SOTFS 9 whole years ago, that’s amazing

[@tashat7144]

hey Vaati. I usually stay away from KZbin comments but it must said that your story telling has totally opened my eyes and im sure countless others to this story. You should write a book, I'd read it.

[@villelepoaho4105]

When you enter a DLC, you go trough a snake portal. So you travel to the past, just to find answers? Why snakes? Why Black Gulch and Shrine of winter? Did the dragons poison (Sinh, the Slumbering Dragon) effect Black Gulch & Rotten? Does Sinh have something to do with the Slumbering dragon shield? Why is the Old Chaos in Eleum Loyce? Why did the Ivory King have 7 pets? Why did we not see other characters, who had some effect on the game? (Mytha, the Baneful queen before she was a monster, Eygil, Yorgh etc.) What is Yore? If you read all those questions, i would want some answers. You can also tell your own questions :)

[@NemoK]

Why do all DLC's start with an area filled with these weird statues that vaguely resemble Gaints? Why do they also all have messages that read "This message is being channeled from somewhere far away."? Did Vendrick place these here to somehow help him get the other three crowns he needed to overcome the curse?

[@villelepoaho4105]

Nemo_K I just know that you can be summoned in the DLC, when you put your summon sign in the statues

[@artzim9246]

the awnser to all your questions is : because B team

[@villelepoaho4105]

***** But we need answers! For example, why is there another Smelter demon, or is it the same Demon?

[@villelepoaho4105]

***** That makes sense....

[@ItsJustTooRed]

I think the crowns are just one big scheme by Vendrick. You go through all these tests (getting the kinship, the Ashen Mist Heart, the Ring) and kill Nashandra in order to sit upon the Throne of Want, which is said by Shanalotte to be the kiln ("you, who link the fire"). So, you go through all that to prove you have a strong soul, which is what you need to act as fuel for the flame. However, when you go hollow, your soul weakens - Gwynn needed a replacement as he started to hollow and couldn't keep the flame burning eternally. Voila, bring on the crowns. Now you don't hollow, ever. You can sit on that throne and burn for eternity, provided somebody superglue one of the crowns to your skull.

[@sammorin254]

That's a pretty good one, actually. But I always had the notion that if you link the fire, all the souls you've gotten would slowly burn along with it until you're back to soul level 1 and then the fire stops. You know what I mean?

[@SteveJonesGamingGWO]

Unless you refuse to light the fire(something the Herald says is up to you l and become basically like a vampire, ever living but no worry of rotting)

[@TheSeth256]

Sam Morin I linked the flame with SL1 characters many times,what happens then? :D

[@sammorin254]

TheSeth256 From a story standpoint, my suggestion would be that it either burns the souls you have on you, because of some mystical fire shit that just burns every soul it touches, or if you really have absolutely none, you burn for like 1 or 2 hours and everyone gets pissed at you, either way would lead to the same results because of the endless cycle thing. Also, maybe we'll never know for sure. It's just my idea of how it happens that I think makes sense.

[@sammorin254]

Might as well be for all we know.

[@tinykingcontractor1396]

I'm really Glad that I subscribed your channel. Thanks ALOT.

[@orlandosanchez552]

i like this video it really gets me excited on seeing what you are going todo with DS3

[@TheDeliciousMystery]

When i watched this ending a little part of me wondered 'if this is the end of dark souls lore what does vaati make videos of now?' then i remembered bloodborne. Still makes you wonder if there are niche channels that just stop because theres nothing to make videos of anymore.

[@tominns7286]

There is more lore he could cover such as Brightstone or Shaded woods or Wharf- I guess these just aren't as interesting for full videos

[@grfrjiglstan]

He said he was going to make a Story Mode for Tseldora.

[@xLILxNINJAx0]

Re-skin of the red iron twinblade? I want one! Btw I loved the video! I was really looking forward to this video, and as always you delivered :D

[@IraklisInn]

First time I've ever seen it.wondering how to get it...

[@gbishop1774]

Coming back to this video i really hope that if dark souls 4 is ever made then we can really finally see the age of dark. We saw a bit in 3, with the untended graves, a strange look into the future where we could see how the world might look, but that was just a small area. And then the dark lord ending where we can see the sky completely blackened and there is an eclipse or maybe the sun itself has turned dark

[@mefist0875]

these videos are like a torch in total darkness to me...I'm such a casual that I barely finish the game...without really knowing the lore. then my jaw drops over these vids...thanks

[@TheLifeMeaningof]

Snakes...where are those slithering serpents...

[@alexandertrachsell8617]

Nowhere.

[@TheLifeMeaningof]

:'(

[@Marzipan178]

Well they're on the Watchdragon Parma so there IS evidence of them existing still, or at least a memory of them existing.

[@alexandertrachsell8617]

Sylvester Holmes Except that was a winner of the shield design contest. And the description calls the beings represented on it "Serpentine Dragons", which really tells how little B Team cares about the first game.

[@Marzipan178]

They didn't have to include the winners and they didn't for a few. It's in the game so it's part of the lore, stop trying to discount things because you don't like it.

[@TheRagefires]

I always thought, even before Dark Souls 2 came out, that being able to import our character from the first game to fight for the final boss would be amazing. And still... that Dark Lord ending is so badass!

[@gavyndunn4055]

Gonna have to say its probably one of the best ds2 videos I've watched

[@evanf4702]

Just found this channel and I never understood dark souls but loved it and this is shamazingggg I actually have some idea what's going on !

[@retryhikaru184]

I think you failed to emphasize, that there is actually a difference between darkness and void in this series. Darkness does not necesarrily have to be a bad thing. Thus to not link the fire, much like DS3 allows you to do, is probably the best thing to do. For fire here and there is alright as long as there is no single dominant fire attempting at manipulation and destruction (like Manus or Nashandra, but also the 4 dominant souls recycled throughout the series). This then, in principle, is also symbolized through the void and it's black tendrills seeking greed with greed like those who protected the first flame with fear of what happens when it does go out. The DS3 managed to pull of an ending, where it's mentioned that small embers will come regardless of the first flame's disappearence, most likely symbolizing that the biggest misconception of the characters in the series, is that the first flame is the only flame to be had, which seems to not be the case.

[@SnafuFourTwo]

While I don’t completely agree with the first half, you definitely opened my mind up by stating there could be other flames, alluding that “THE” Flame could easily just be one of many. Therefore all that has existed within the souls trilogy is merely the story of all that came about from just one flame in particular.

[@retryhikaru184]

@@SnafuFourTwo yup, I don't really agree with my thoughts from back a year ago either. Thanks for bringing this up.

[@retryhikaru184]

@@SnafuFourTwo I think I was originally trying to say that just because you turn off the lights it doesn't mean dark tendrills will eat you. Or in Souls analogy: just because you embrace the dark, it doesn't have to mean you will have to become eternally hollow or hollow at all (which is what vaati mentions in the video). But I dunno, I enjoy metaphor and logic, it's just after spending some time with the series (especially DS3) I feel like this analogy could be wrong. I do think it was always about tyranny and freedom in one way or another. But this is a theme very common in many good narratives. At any rate, thank you for commenting. I didn't know there were people who even read my comment, let alone someone who cared to respond with a sound judgement.

[@deesevrin8570]

Darkness, void, abyss, the deep...are there any more? Perhaps all of DS2 can just be hemmed off in its own "oblivion", truly the most horrible place to find oneself in the soulsborne cannon.

[@spira4147]

"There was NEATO!"

[@Ar0wally]

amazing background music,sets the mood

[@alexandersviridov2937]

I dont know why i seem to regulary return to vaatis ds2 videos, perhaps because both the atmosphere of both game and videos somhow feels warm and calming.

[@tominns7286]

Vaati you're climbing up the ranks to be my favourite KZbinr....

[@Fo3AR]

14:00 was pretty badass actually...

[@sadgirlhours4088]

MAN these videos make me want to play soulsbourne games so bad but I know that I'm gonna get frustrated and give up. Keep up the good work mate you're videos are interesting and engaging and draw potential newcomers to soulsbourne games.

[@noz2506]

Love your work, thanks!

[@Luis519RS]

Great video. Great theories. I didn't thought of the possibility of more DLC, or the First Flame being reunited with the crowns. I do have some thought to share on the Souls of other humanoid beings though. I kind of have this idea, that all humans, gods, or whatever you called the people of Izalith before they burned and turned into demons, and the followers of Nito that aren't dead yet and so aren't a moving pile of bones, are all humans at least in appearance, and that it's their soul that brands them as hollow, or something else entirely depending on the soul. It's odd how it all connects from there, but I kind of imagined Astora became Forossa, as The son of Gwyn (the God of Battle in their pantheon) may have been Solair, and also in DS1 something made me speculate most of Gwyn children also fled to Astora where most of his clergy resided, and so they could have a history of the God of Battle specially if Solair is that God, and kindling the first flame made his story worth telling again. And as I saw it. Forossan don't seem human like, I mean some do in appearance, but then others do crazy shit like swing massive swords with no effort or light their weapons in magic that looks as fire in a Gwyn like fashion, Ivory king actually reminded me a lot of Gwyn with his burned knights and all. And Vengarl, he died yet didn't became hollow, we really can't explain what he became. It's like a different kind of soul exist in him to me. Maybe another fragment of Gwyn soul passed to his children and follower ended in the body of what looks like common humans. Maybe that even explains the odd ones as the skeleton kings having been also human but later becoming skeletons instead of normal hollows. I imagined all Vessels want to remain filled by a soul and that the DarkSoul seems to be the only one that can take others along without going crazy like Artorias that was poisoned from having the Dark Souls touch his pure Gwyn soul body. That's what I think gave me that notion actually. Elizabeth claims Artorias has not even a murmur of dark or something like that. Making me think all being carry different amounts of the Lord Souls. And that the chosen undead are those that can not only carry all the souls, but that can commune with the Dark Soul and not lose it like other descendant of the pygmy do.