Dark Souls 2's Story: Explained!

PART 1: Dark Souls 2's Ending: Explained!
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I think the story I've built will be a good framework for future theorycrafting, but even after this, you should still have questions. I only went into storylines related to the ending, but there are definitely unexplained parts of the story that I left out because I can't find definitive answers.
1. The opening cutscene. Where are we in the opening cutscene, with this tree and the kingdom reflected in the water? Also, WHEN are we, if she's referring to Drangleic in the past tense?
2. Who are the giants?
3. What did King Vendrick steal?
4. Why does the giant lord give you the giant's kinship? Why do we need the giant's kinship to open the throne?
5. Why does the emerald herald say we're breaking the shackles of fate, when we're clearly adhering to fate by linking the fire all over again? Is she referring to how we're breaking the shackles of the undead curse?
7. Why does Nashandra just wait at the throne to be challenged over and over again? Nashandra guided you to the throne, presumably so you can open it for her - but it's not like she is capable of taking the giant's kinship from you once you're defeated. Kinship isn't a physical thing. Does she want you to get inside the throne, or not? I can't help but feel like there's something missing here.
8. The Herald seems to be freed of her purpose..but there's a final twist.
She is the one who brought you to Drangleic.
9. As a final note, do you think linking the flame is done at the far fire when you start New Game Plus, or in the kiln?
anyway
I'd love to see these questions explored and answered in some sort of DLC - because I think there's flat out not enough information yet to answer these questions. That said, feel free to theorycraft in the comment section - because I can't do it all alone!

[@bk_wasian]

Plot twist: Nashandra was so easy because she was the one who passed through the fog, and you were the boss

[@vittxrio5198]

Because we really became the boss.

[@NintendoCuckooBird01]

Nice. Imagine if the rest of the game was just fighting her endlessly now

[@jbb1646]

@@NintendoCuckooBird01 eternal damnation but you get infinite souls. Definitely worth

[@brandonhunt107]

@@NintendoCuckooBird01 Everytime you defeat her that's another ng cycle

[@DarthRinzler]

This is a certified plot twist

[@Jazmillenium]

Hearing about Velstadt carrying the king to his tomb is actually rather sad. His most loyal of knights see's his king basically die before him and he carries his husk of a body and gently lays him to rest, then guards him for the rest of his days. Something about that small subtle story really speaks volumes to me. Velstadt must have felt terrible to see the person he dedicated his life to, turn into the very thing he tried so hard to reject.

[@Akard517hell]

That's like a pro euthanasy story

[@ColdFishMus]

Petr Říha you try too hard to appear edgy and cool in an online video platform’s comment section, fuck off.

[@thatlittleweirdkid]

ColdFish Agreed. Imaging thinking fictional stories can’t evoke emotion 😳

[@kane496]

@Petr Říha dude are you ok

[@kane496]

@Petr Říha yeah dude, thats besides the point of you having the immature need to feel superior by invalidating other people's affinity for a story or narrative, no one is forcing you to watch this u know lol

[@breakinginferno6774]

"my king, how do you know that the chosen undead will be able to defeat the queen?" "I have placed in its way obsticles that will grant it a supreme power." "what power?" "the power to... STRAFE LEFT!"

[@DarkNexus530]

Raime: "Shut up Velstadt."

[@centralunit100]

Breaking Inferno I died laughing at this LOL

[@darqfalls849]

Breaking Inferno But...but... the Pursuer taught me to strafe right. I'M CONFUSED

[@Nutt_lemmings]

Talking about killing vendrick

[@bobbywood8322]

the power to...DODGE!!! WHY DIDNT YOU DODGE!!!

[@HalcyonSerenade]

"Ok Velstadt, I'm gonna leave my soul here behind this door, and you gotta carry my hollow body to the tomb. You tracking?" "Yes, your highness. I'm *_always_* tracking."

[@thelegendaryp]

i suppose Nashandra kinda forgot that since the chosen undead is, well, undead, they are quite literally unstoppable. unless she killed them so many times over that they went hollow and gave up. but then again that would only happen if... the player gave up... woah...

[@dadhats]

Mind = blown lol

[@mauvd88]

if the player gives up, he will simply become another wandering undead, giving up on his want, another undead in time will come, slay him and claim his soul for the same purpose.

[@Kreekakon]

This is one of the best things that Vaati has brought up in a previous video, I'll just elbaorate a bit: It is known that undead can prevent themselves from going hollow by keeping themselves motivated for going on, which becomes harder, and harder to do as they die again, and again. It may seem like the chosen undead is immune to this process, because they can keep dying, and the player can just keep on playing. However I believe it is not...because the chosen undead's willpower does not come from the character...it comes from YOU, the player character who is driving him forward. As long as you think the boss, or area that you're stuck at is beatable, and not impossible, the player will keep on going, and trying, because their motivation has not yet dwindled. However, the moment that the player calls OP on the boss, and rage quits to go do something else with his life...that's when the "undead" stops trying, and when he has truly gone hollow, because the driving force (The player) who mas making him go forward is no longer there because they've given up. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This I feel is reflected even more amazingly by the "loss of max HP" mechanic in Dark Souls 2 because it reflects how as an undead dies over, and over again it becomes harder to hold on to their sanity, and not go hollow. The real life version for this is that you get less, and less HP each time making it easier for you to rage quit, and take a break from the game.

[@straikychan]

i think i said this under another of vaati's vidya's (damn i'm punny), but the process of hollowing dark souls and the gradual hollowing in dark souls 2 is only eyecandy, the true hollowing is the gameplay, you get frustrated a lot and are driven to your limits, either giving up completely on the game or overcoming your limits and acquiring victory, removing the curse of the undead of yourself (finally leaving your room again) until a new souls game comes out xDDD

[@thebeyblademaniac]

Kreekakon What about considering your HP as a sanity bar rather than a HP bar?

[@freezezt]

Great, now I feel super bad for killing Vendrick....This guy was a bro. He'll stay alive in NG+

[@LuckeeStrikee]

He's hollow when you meet him, so it doesn't really matter.

[@TheOsirin]

If anything you’re putting him to rest if he can rest so you’re doing him a favour, he also new that a chosen undead would defeat him

[@alexnexyras6622]

@@TheOsirin Actually, undeads appears when the fire is fading, so if u link the flame, all undead should become human until the fire starts to fade again. This technically means that Vendrick will no longer be hollow after u link the flame. I think this is exactly what he planned.

[@davidamajako961]

@@alexnexyras6622 hmm interesting. Is it a fact?

[@alexnexyras6622]

@@davidamajako961 I went through a lot of Dark Souls lore and this is for sure a fact. When u link the first flame, for a short period of time, world of Dark Souls is without undeads and hollows. They won't just dissapear so they have to become humans again. Weaker the fire is, more undeads and hollows appaear, which is also a fact. It also makes sence, because FADING of a first flame makes the age of dark appear, the weaker flame is, the stronger is the dark. If u just relit the fire, the dark is completely suppresed. There's more to it but i would be here forever :D

[@Thugzbunyyy]

"A peace so deep it was like..... the dark" favorite ds2 quote

[@ICanHazRecon911]

I'll admit, I haven't played through the entirety of DS2, but that quote is chilling

[@Kill2switch121]

I have been playing through the game again and love listening to Wellagar and Drummond voice actors

[@BDeerhead]

One detail that I see glossed over, or at least not directly pointed out, is that Vendrick was immortal. He started a war with the giants that lasted multiple generations, and he had a hand in creating the "Ancient" Dragon. He is also said to have defeated the four great kings, the sunken, iron, and ivory kings. We can only assume the fourth was the king of Olaphis, since that's what Straid says Drangleic used to be called. And when we gather the four crowns, we become immune to hollowing, but remain undead. Essentially, immortal. This is what Vendrick achieved himself, yet he chose to give that up. Rather than slay Nashandra himself, he left behind everything he had gained for us to inherit. After all he went through to avoid going hollow, he chose that fate freely. Is this what it means to cast off the shackles of fate? To exist outside the cycle of light and dark. Is this the same fate we resign ourselves to after we defeat Aldia and reject the throne?

[@DoomEngaged]

Don't really have answers to all your questions, but just wanted to correct some things. Multiple generations doesn't imply an inhuman amount of time, 3 generations could take place in under 60 years, and vendrick is certainly not a young man. He did not have any hand in creating an ancient dragon, he 'revived' one, it's ancient because dragons existed before even the first flame, long before vendrick. I've not played the DLC so I have no information about the deal with the crowns so I can't say anything about that, but I just wanted to share what I knew.

[@BDeerhead]

Listen to Wellager's dialogue. He says Vendrick has watched over this land since ages long long ago. Somehow I don't think that's limited to a single Human lifetime.

[@DoomEngaged]

BDeerhead Is Wellager the ghost in the castle? If that's him, you could rationalize that his mind has certainly gone sour, but beyond that I don't really have an argument for that. The idea of him being immortal is certainly interesting, but the fact that he ends up hollowed out does in fact mean he's human, so if he is indeed immortal, I'm not sure if that really has any bearing on anything, at least in the present or future. If he is indeed immortal, and acquired this through the crowns (again I haven't played the DLC so I don't have much info on that) then his influence in the past is also quite limited, as I'm going to assume he acquired these crowns after the undead curse showed up in his land.

[@chriswolfe351]

This is one of those things that I'm not terribly clear on, but there are certain things that suggest that Vendrick was already undead when he started building Drangleic, just like you are. The only thing that doesn't really square with that is when Nashandra talks about how 'when the undead arose'. As for why he cast it all away and chose to go hollow, I think he knew that to sit on the throne, he would have to kill Nashandra, and he couldn't bring himself to do that.

[@saintriot]

AzureLotusGames > the fact that he ends up hollowed out does in fact mean he's human. Not if you consider he freely separated himself from his soul. The curse touches everything (even the skeleton lords) so a Lord is certainly not free from the curse but simply more difficult to hollow as they have lord souls. Vendrick knowingly locked his soul away from Nashandra thus choosing to become hollow. Also, he's big sized and not furtive pygmy descendant sized.

[@OnlyAfro]

Damn this was really well done

[@MrJoelacrasse]

You know, we are all expecting a new video about a guy like Kirk in DS2 from you.

[@matthewnunya6329]

Not to gush but OnlyAfro I just discovered your videos....AWESOME!! Please continue to bring me joy and ideas.

[@TheMediatorOfChaos]

partycakeboy92 no u

[@thecreator625]

Trusty Patches Shut up, Patches. You just don't want him to tell everyone you kicked him down that pit.

[@barrybones3166]

Nurd _+_)(

[@golguin]

I love that you explained why Nashandra was so easy at the very end. Lots of people don't get that she was physically unable (due to all the barriers in her way) to gain the necessary power to beat you. You essentially become her final boss as she enters through the fog gate and tries to steal the thrown away.

[@TheDivineApe]

You need the Giants kinship because Nashandra hated the Giants therefore could never get their kinship, so she could never get the throne

[@theapplemangames6194]

good theory but she couldn't get the kinship because it was lost. that's why you had to go into the giants memories to find it.

[@appaloosahill4499]

When we play DS3 there are still 3 Giants the giant lord ( last giant ) And the two in the gutter meaning the last giant remembers us from crippling him before we actually fought him ?

[@notoriousbig3k]

dark souls 3 is before dark souls 2 and dark souls 1 is before them it is the first and first first was demons souls when u play ringed city u can clearly see that u ended all 3 games that all turned o dust and nothing until a new flame would be born but it wont happen because a painting of blood and dark soul was born a new Ariendal Painting of a deep ocean ... thats Bloodborne wich also was a dyng world in the end it all gets corrupted and dies it just needs a new painter

[@isolated_aeres9473]

No, dark souls2 is before dark souls 3 because of the fact that we could see the dead body of gilligan in dark souls 3. Here from wiki: "Gilligan makes a cameo in Dark Souls III as a corpse that teaches the "Stretch-out" gesture to the player, near the Profaned Capital bonfire."

[@anatsu9805]

@@isolated_aeres9473 i fucking thought that face was familiar

[@NoForksGiven]

OHHH...So THAT'S why Nashandra was so weak. Vendrick was training us by making the game so incredibly hard.And here I thought it was just bad boss design.

[@toastedbagel2756]

or it was bad design and we fans are speculating to reclaim From's honor for them

[@NoForksGiven]

To be fair, From makes us speculate a lot of things in this series. Might as well make us speculate if the game's design is good as well

[@prakrithkeshav9425]

bad boss design? NEVER doubt the creators, feeble cursed one.

[@NoForksGiven]

***** Gwyn was a good and tough as balls fight. I don't appreciate how he can swing a greatsword with the speed of a straight sword or why his fire buff never wears off though. *sigh* I hate it when enemies don't obey the same rules as you do. Almost as bad as Gwyndolin being able to fire multiple spells and arrows at once. This is why occult weapons exist, to punish these cheaters.

[@NoForksGiven]

Easy to parry? I could never get it to work. Probably because I 2h my weapons all day erry day so I'm not used to parrying. I 2h unless the moveset is garbage (looking at you, Butcher's Knife. If you're gonna have downward smash with a long wind up, at least pancake with it. I gave up a running attack for this?)

[@alecrizzle]

Man its crazy/cool to me that people can put all this together. I played the whole game and had no idea what was happening the whole time

[@zaidb4296]

Literally me playing every soulsborne game 😂

[@diediedice]

lmaooo same, but it's really on me as I always forget to read the boss souls and other items... you can put so much pieces of lore together through them

[@MW-qt9ts]

So Nashandra was an easy-ish last boss because it was all according to Vendrick's plan? Well... now I feel powerless.

[@matthew9004]

Lemme get this straight. dark souls one was the first cycle, since it had all the great souls in their pure forms (Gwynn, witch of izaleth etc), and in between one and two, a bunch of kingdoms rose and fell (olaphis) because of the cycle, and in this time, nashandra was gaining strength after splitting off from manus after he was defeated. On the dark souls 2 cycle then, nashandra interrupts the cycle in order to get the power she craves. Vendrick realised this, breaks the cycle by stopping her with roadblocks like the shrine of Amana and the giants kinship. Therefore nashandra tricks you into opening the throne of want for her, and betrays you, only for you to win. Then you have a choice of embracing the throne or not, but regardless, the cycle continues. Right?

[@irisdaniels2318]

yes. though, by collecting the four ancient crowns, the bearer stops hollowing.

[@szymontoropp3046]

P

[@gokublack8342]

Yes only the Ashen one ever truly finds a way to subvert the cycle. (Usurping the fire.) Basically by stealing the fire and not allowing it to fade you have essentially halted the cycle things don't get better but can't get worse. Or another way by getting the Dark Soul from Gael the Painter girl is able to make a new perfect world without the flaws of the prior worlds thanks to her using the Dark Soul

[@gbishop1774]

The cycle continues regardless, it was merely delayed by Vendrick to make sure Nashandra couldn't obtain that power. The fact of the matter is that because of Gwyn the world is now stuck in an eternal loop, the fire fades, an undead with either reignite it or let it fade, the flame is reignited and will eventually fade once more or if the flame fades entirely embers will remain and one day these embers will eventually catch light and begin a new age of fire after an age of dark. This is why Aldia giving us a new choice is so important because before that our choice didn't REALLY matter as the cycle continued. Aldia gave us the choice to simply walk away, not choosing to reignite the flame or to smother it and we would let the world persist in this age of twilight between fire and dark. Maybe one day a new undead would find their way to the throne and become the true monarch, but that undead won't be us. We have the crown we can hold the curse at bay with it and wander etenally in the age of twilight

[@gloomy8795]

Yuh

[@PinkiePieJr]

Wow. This game is so much more depressing after hearing that. Cool story.

[@LePreuxBuisson]

Especially after watching Happy Souls.

[@MrDirtyVirus]

Dark souls in its entirety is depressing. But its such a great story.

[@combustinghandshakes8617]

Coz its easy... and it does a lotta damage

[@LePreuxBuisson]

Tethe​ RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD !

[@combustinghandshakes8617]

Major Buisson I GOT BOSS WEAPONS!

[@rugbyfan0025]

this story reminded me very much of beowulf. beowulf went to a faraway land to find and kill a terrible monster that was plaguing the king and his lands. what he didn't realize was that the current king had done the same thing once, and killed a different monster, only to sleep with the monster's mother to create the monster that eventually plagued his kingdom. then beowulf repeated the same chain of events by killing the new monster and sleeping with its mother. and once beowulf died, it was strongly suggested that his "second in command" would do the same thing as well. just reminds me of dark souls and how no matter what there will rise another king who will inevitably complete the same tasks as the last king, only to be replaced by another one in the future.

[@christianlund9786]

that was the movie beowulf. in the original beowulf kills graendal and his mother (while holding his breath for a few days because she lives underwater) then a dragon happens along (not beowulf's son, just some random dragon) and beowulf dies fighting it. personally i liked the movie better. the original, although a classic, was extremely boring just because of how much of a mary sue beowulf is.

[@rugbyfan0025]

Christian Lund i know, i was making reference to the movie haha but do you see the similarities?

[@WandererNamedGuy]

I very much agree with you (>^^)> the rebirth of kings and all. Haha makes me giggle to think demon's may in some wacky way still be tied in. I mean, we never did get to see the land of the giants hehe :p

[@MultipleRounds]

Nice link

[@traviscraig6055]

I can see the similarities, as long as it's the CGI movie we're talking about.

[@chipslight738]

Discovering how the story of the universe of Dark Souls is the repition of the cycles of Kindling and Darkness, it makes me feel that the Misery of the universe is even stronger than before. The Misery was strong already in DkS1 because NPCs strived to found a goal and to achieve it, albeit in vain. But discovering those cycles just destroy the meaning of every goal : you will built a kingdom but, in the end, it will crumble. You are fighting for others but, in the end, they will become Hollows. Dark Souls 2 makes the entire universe even more dark and sad because it gives a kind of nihilist feeling to the goals of every undead : at the end, nothing mattered, everything will crumble, will rise anew to crumble again. God I fucking love this games.

[@chipslight738]

And I think it's why you can "choose" the end in DkS1 but not DkS2 : it's meaningless now to choose it because it never had any meaning.

[@Requiemrexx]

Isn't the Emerald Herald proof the cycle can be broken? Born of dragon, conceived by human (or should I say hollow as that's the natural state). She doesn't seem to be affected by the curse, or the cycle. Vendrick and Aldia did what no past cycle pawn had done before: the two tried to break the cycle, and in my speculation, they succeeded.

[@GarrethOriley]

Requiemrex Im not sure it is a never ending cycle. The abyss seems to be outside of that cycle and in some way even threatening it. I really hope someone can bring some light in to the dark parts of ds2 lore ;).

[@pimpboythreebillion]

Chips Light i completely agree

[@WAR3600]

Requiemrex Yeah, she is outside the curse, but she can't break the curse. That's why she is a failure to her creators ( Aldia and Vendrick).

[@jjsk8ing]

Man actually understanding the story of this game makes it even more spooky and twisted, this game is truly a work of art

[@davidalvarezosorio2171]

"The queen brought peace to this land and to her king" "A peace so deep it was like...the dark" "Is this some sort of a dream?" I get so many goosebumps every single time I hear to lines

[@FromAgonyToLight]

A hunter’s dream?

[@Kill2switch121]

That line is so good but makes me think about my own death

[@Torruun]

Wow. I took Vendrick as a fool and a coward, but now... Now he seems merely a desperate rebel, who tried to give the next fated ruler what he was denied. A chance to link the fire. I no longer think he denied the first flame but rather, sacrificed himself to keep the last fleeting ember of it safe, so that when it came time to reignite it, it could burn in peace. This reminds me of Ingward, one of the four sealers of New Londo. A large quantity of people sacrificed, and four sentries placed to keep The Dark from destroying a weakened world. The Looking Glass Knight, Velstadt, The Ancient Dragon, and the two who protect the throne itself, along with the Milfanito, and the Fenito. As for Aldia, I took him as something of a mad scientist, and a heretic. A man who wanted answers no matter the cost. Now, I see him in new light as well. Still a mad scientist, but his heresy, and his crimes against nature and life itself, were necessary for nature and life to persist. Pragmatic, much like his brother.

[@Struggler9996]

He's still a coward. Rather than confront Nashandra, he set up barricades so she couldn't easily reach the Throne, and then ran away in fear of her. He wanted someone else to do what he was too weak and/or afraid to do.

[@Torruun]

Woops. Had an unfinished thought in there. I meant to compare the four sealers to the Looking Glass Knight, Velstadt, and the others, but it seems my excitement got the better of me, and I skipped a step.

[@Asgard314]

***** Maybe he loved her? I mean, he lived with her for God knows how long, maybe he felt something for her, but not enough to doom his world?

[@eclipse320]

***** Disagree, he understood the cycle and realized that it was only a matter of time before he would succumb to some form of death. He couldnt stop her by confronted her as her soul would have been disbursed once he was killed(died). So he trapped her instead, until someone strong enough came to stop her.

[@newbcake88]

***** Your name is a Berserk reference, isn't it? Nice.

[@Lordofcookiejars]

I do not believe that the First Flame is an object which is somewhere. I believe that the First Flame is a concept, and that there have been been many First Flames. Basically, it's what happens whenever a Chosen Undead with a godlike soul chooses to link the fire and start a new cycle, sacrificing themselves to birth the flames. The First Flame is literally the first flame in any single cycle. For instance, the Far Fire of Majula is actually what remains of the First Flame from Dark Souls 1. You find the shattered pieces of the Lordvessel in the basement of the mansion, the ruins in the area look quite familiar, and the undead are inexplicably drawn to the place. It's furthermore quite possible that each of the primal bonfires represent another First Flame, each the beginning and end of different cycles. Something very very interesting to note is that Sublime Bone Dust is found very close to every primal bonfire, and also to Majula (with the exception of the one near Freja). Perhaps each Sublime Bone Dust is actually the remains of a Chosen Undead from some distant cycle who started a new cycle by creating a First Flame in the nearby primal bonfires? Perhaps the four great souls of each cycle are inexplicably drawn to places where the fire has been linked, which is why we find them so close by? I believe that King Vendrick peered into the essence of the soul and discovered the truth behind the eternal cycles, and that a new age will not begin until a Chosen Undead sacrifices himself to create a first flame. He likely also discovered that for an Undead to be powerful enough to link the fire, he must possess the four great souls of the previous cycle - like Vendrick himself did. That is why the he had the Throne of Want constructed, which is actually a kiln designed for a Chosen Undead to birth a First Flame and end the curse, however temporarily, by beginning a new cycle. But a First Flame is absurdly powerful, because it will by definition always contain the four great souls of a previous cycle, or at least strength of a comparable level. Vendrick feared that if he linked the fire himself, Nashandra would sweep in and claim the infant First Flame and the four great souls of the new age for herself, dooming the next cycle to being one of darkness. So he set a plan in motion which would ensure that the next Chosen Undead would be powerful enough to face Nashandra before becoming the First Flame. And that is you, the player.

[@robertpaz9321]

It's actually far pire, not fire

[@buraqdicaprio8862]

that was extremely powerfull interpretation, u nailed it bro.

[@evilweener]

Nah because of dark souls 3, the first flame is a solid "one" thing.

[@Anon-qp3kt]

You're almost right. There is only one First Flame, it just needed to be linked to keep it from fading.

[@Stevey2578]

Maybe Vendrick couldn't link the flame because the throne chair was too small for him to sit in?

[@stowej]

"We're strong enough because of the barriers in our way." - That should be on a poster

[@SSJavenger]

The Soul series are the definition of story-telling in video-games and why games shouldn't be trying to be movies. Because movies or books CAN'T make story telling like these games do and i really appreciate this series for this.

[@Nazareadain]

They can; the technique is called distant mountains, though the method is simple insinuation. Imply as opposed be explicit. More specifically, distant mountains refers to mentioning of events occuring or having occured outside the current plot. Sound familiar? I know I'm in the wrong place to hold this opinion, but games aren't as special as most people try to make them. Games use most of the same elements, but have different rules as to their application, like how cinematography has rules as to how and when to cut, in games, you should generally speaking never do it at all, forcing developers to build the sets around the camera instead of placing the camera around the set. Books and movies can, but shouldn't do what these games do. Part of the engagement lies in the interaction, with little else happening on the other (sensory and narrative) layers - removing interaction and keeping the other layers the same wouldn't make any sense

[@Thaibiohazard123]

Dark Souls : There's always a king There's always an undead There're always 4 powerful souls. Bioshock : There's always a man There's always a lighthouse There's always a city. Will the circle be unbroken ?

[@All4Randomness1]

Shut up

[@basiicbid8032]

Those are two completely different themes. One is alternate universes where your choices affect what happens somewhere else and one is an endless cycle where your choices don't really matter because it's going to end the same way anyway. You can't really compare the 2. And the concept of alternate universes was only presented in bioshock infinite anyway. (kinda in the beginning of 1 too but nobody knew that)

[@Thaibiohazard123]

Slightly Leen I'm not comparing. Just trying to point out how romantic both concept are

[@MermDaddy]

+Thaibiohazard123 yeah except infinite's was really poorly handled and doesn't really make that much sense in the scheme of it. not to mention the game itself was kinda meh at best.

[@slightlydisgruntled7438]

+MermDaddy it's supposed to hurt your brain

[@Mankorra_Gomorrah]

Has anyone considered that this cycle is actually fairly realistic? If you take the souls out and skip the fire symbolism it boils down to nations rise and fall and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it. Rome collapsed, the French were bested, China collapsed several times, etc. always a nation, always a leader, time destroys them all. Also this whole cycle thing reminds me of bioshock infinite and a little of mass effect but that's off topic.

[@browntaxi7158]

Then we know what's going to happen to the U.S.. America is in a time of a golden age but every great flame must die out and rekindle, just as Dark Souls have said a lot of times before. America will have a time where our our nation will collapse and we will have to restart just like other great nations

[@iiNeedSkins]

More then just civilisations rising and falling, there are theories that the cosmos itself is on a constant loop of death and rebirth, of light and dark. The fact is life is impossible without death and light without dark.

[@Mankorra_Gomorrah]

+Godo well, darkness is simply the lack of light. Darkness isn't a thing it's the lack of things so it's not exactly a 1-1 parallel

[@iiNeedSkins]

+risker34 I'm aware of that dude, it's a poetic statement...

[@manuelsaavedra8081]

+risker34 well, absolute dark doesn't exist either. When something is absolute, it becomes undefined. Darkness doesn't need light to exist, but to BE darkness

[@kevinforney9054]

Suddenly the super easy Nashandra fight makes total sense! Vendrick wanted Nashandra to be met with resistance all the way to the end. The trials that the Chosen Undead faced prepared her to easily overcome Nashandra's power.

[@johnnycripple1930]

The way this video explains why there are so many armored bosses is so good and that almost every armored/humanoid boss had a task to do against the undead plus the fact that The dragon riders are weak bosses because they were trained with a "dragon" near thier side to fight with this made ds2 the best for me i love this story.

[@mrsausie5124]

I just noticed nashandra has legs under her dress during the fight against her.

[@grfrjiglstan]

So do most women.

[@mrsausie5124]

+grfrjiglstan I meant that I originally thought she slithered around like a slug

[@Rohnon]

+Adamantcobalt and she has a Nito under her Dress aswell

[@terminidwithinternetaccess]

If you look closely at the cutscene at the start of the lost sinner, the bug in her eye is a smaller version of the one in the middle of the bed of chaos in DS1

[@richardmcilwain7125]

This would make an amazing novel.

[@richardmcilwain7125]

Btw, for those of you who felt guilty in killing King Vendrick, you can always look at it as a way of putting his body to rest; afterwards, you may obtain his soul so that he may aid you in killing Nashandra.

[@ceerius3910]

Richard Mcilwain Well put good sir, well put indeed.

[@richardmcilwain7125]

It is truly a brilliant design, when we are able to try to understand each character's backstory and aspirations... even on a character that never even gets one line of speech. Killing Vendrick is also one of the closest things to fighting the hollowed forms of the allies you make in Dark Souls (story-wise), only you never were able to meet him first.

[@richardmcilwain7125]

Ceerius much appreciated, but if only we could be so grossly incandescent...

[@joshuakim5240]

Richard Mcilwain I once killed Vendrick ridiculously early to make the Ruler's Sword and kill Nashandra with it. It just felt so...right. Vendrick, now in the form of his blade (that smashed my ass a few times) could now finally fight the queen he loved but lacked the heart to kill, in the hands of the one who he gambled everything on succeeding.

[@jameschism3764]

this proves that the people that played Dark Souls 1 and 2 are heroes of legend and fate imo

[@ananaithnid7495]

Vendrick starts a war with giants. I mean, despite the fact that he's at least twelve feet tall, and taller than a few of the giants that we have to fight. Could you imagine an audience with him? You'd have a seriously sore neck by the end of it.

[@SCWIC]

Anaithnid001 I hope you're joking, but just in case you're not. Vendrick isn't actually that tall.

[@ananaithnid7495]

I'll be completely honest, I was probably wrong with measurements, as I usually don't use feet, being a Metric person. However, when you fight vendrick, you are roughly at eye level with his knee. i.ytimg.com/vi/uDnhDqyQ2Zk/maxresdefault.jpg i60.tinypic.com/260ad6x.jpg So, even though twelve feet may be an exaggeration, he is still on par with the regular giants you fight.

[@SCWIC]

Anaithnid001 That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that he's not inhumanly tall. Videogame bosses, especially in Dark Souls (and also in WoW) are enlarged to make predicting their next move easier, and to increase the epicness of the fight. So vendrick isn't that tall.

[@ananaithnid7495]

You've seen his throne, right? From a lore perspective, he isn't wholly human. He is joined with the Great Soul. Just like the beings of Dark Souls (Gwyn and his companions), they are all from an age of legends, and heroes in legends are always larger than life.

[@SCWIC]

Anaithnid001 Yeah, of course. However, Dark Souls 2 and the B Team failed with the concept of larger people for better gameplay, as in Dark Souls 1 all furniture etc was human sized, while the inhabitants of it were rather large. And although Vendrick was joined with the great soul, the throne doesn't support the actual size argument, as Dark Souls 2 made all furniture fit to scale with the ingame sizes, not lore sizes. w/e :D

[@rpk321]

Born of dragon? Dragonborn! Dovahkin!

[@yugiohguy]

FUS ROH DAH!

[@obese_nerd4351]

+Juho Pirttilahti hahah

[@mata3574]

LMFAO! your comment made my night bro xD

[@pizzaluvah198]

Donald Trump would be impressed by this wall

[@Artemis_simetrA]

Amethyst Blade aye I used to be an adventurer like you, then i took an arrow in the knee!

[@znightowlz6585]

Ds2 probably had the best story. It was more coherent and poses more questions directly regarding the story and you were more likely to understand what you’re doing bc the game does a good job explaining it to you that you’re cursed and you’ve lost everything and you’re trying to get it back. The opening cutscene shows this and the game tells you a lot and demonstrates it in the games areas

[@A7XKoRnRocks1]

Such a sad and beautiful story.

[@JMWeaver]

Just had a funny series of observations: Hypothetically, let's pretend the Kiln and its ashy arena are the same place Gwyn was fought in DS1. The kiln is far below New Londo, accessible from the Abyss and Firelink, which is above New Londo. While descending into the Throne of Want, a black abyss lies below, but what else is sandwiched, albeit kind of nonsensically, between Drangleic Castle and the kiln? Well, Shrine of Amana, a place that bears a strong resemblance to Firelink. Below that? A crypt submerged in the waters that have almost consumed the shrine. This crypt is a place where no light should be presented, according to Agdayne. New Londo housed the Dark Wraiths and Kaathe and the Abyss. The next logical place to look at is the Undead Parish, built where Drangleic Castle now stands, and here is where I'm surely reading too far into it, but hey, speculation is fun! Traveling away from the Parish, towards Sen's Fortress, there is a dense forest (Shaded Woods), and past that a little ways is Anor Londo, almost precisely where we would expect to find Anor Londo is Heide's Tower of Flame, submerged. Whooooooa.

[@epiclolman57]

And then they built a secret sky castle filled with lava above a windmill

[@discobobo]

Vaati, I doubt you will see this, but I just wanted to say the biggest thank you for all your unbelievably hard work on this channel. Your love for these games, and your tireless work has helped me go from passively interested in the series, to devouring all of your content and constantly being amazed at the depth of the storytelling. Your connection with Angel's Egg was fascinating, I am sure I would never have heard of this movie, and it's absolutely incredible. Again thank you for all you do!

[@tomrock7019]

I think the hate for Dark Souls 2 is so unjustified... It's simply a great game

[@TheVioletBunny]

My favorite game in the entire series

[@vagg7874]

Gameplay is a little floaty, not the best, but we're always comparing it to other souls games, ds2 is better than the average game out there, and the story, lore, characters, voice acting might be second to none in the series

[@badabingbing474]

It's fine but on the bottom of list of souls games

[@Lindokuhle19988Zulu]

Easily

[@user-go2qv7qf9w]

@@badabingbing474 only on the bottom if a brain is absent from your head. gameplay was great imho and people still play it.

[@borbo23]

So basically all of this was cuz Vendrick was thinking with this little scepter when some weird-ass suspicious chick came knocking.

[@davidamajako961]

Yes, On the death of the father of the abyss his soul splintered in fragments and became these fragile female entities. These fragile but powerful entities all have 1 thing in common apart from their personality. They search for powerful men. Its seen in the dlc's where they too were married to the kings.

[@toledochristianmatthew9919]

@@davidamajako961 I also find it intriguing that the women and Nashandra took in the form of Princess Dusk which makes it more epic and sad that Manus essentially kidnapped Dusk to steal her essence and when the Chosen Undead finally killed Manus, the fragments were born out of Dusk's image.

[@FoleyX90]

One theory is that The King's Ring is crafted from The Lordvessel - and works to unlock those doors in a similar fashion to DS1. Perhaps the ring was crafted in the Majula Mansion's basement where you find The Lordvessel remains? If so, what significance could this have and could it mean Cale played a bigger part of the story than a simple cartographer?

[@aaamarco3]

***** It's pretty safe behind Velstadt.

[@NewAgeComix]

I never thought of Velstadt as a sympathetic character but I love that image of him

[@razzakksa]

that character you made is so beautiful!

[@scottyhenderson6238]

Jesus vaati toward the end I had a tear in my eye. really powerful n fucking awesome work bro, makes so much sense now you are simply THE BEST at this. great work

[@StairFacts]

VaatiVidya A mistake I noticed in this video: You accidentally said that Vendrick was responsible for the exile and imprisonment of the undead, but that was actually the Old Iron King who was responsible for those things, not Vendrick. When the curse came, he found the strength to lead his people, according to Nashandra. This means that he realized that no good would come of capturing, exiling, or killing the undead.

[@KazumiKiguma]

I really like how Nashandra has 2 cutscenes before her fight, depending on your actions. If you receive the Giant's Kinship before fighting the Throne Keeper and Defender, she comes through the fog gate. However, if you kill the Defender and Watcher before getting the Giant's Kinship, nothing happens, and you have no choice but to leave and come back once you've obtained it, and when you do...she's standing inside waiting for you. Same speech, just instead of her walking through the gate, she stands there looking at the throne as she speaks before turning to face you.

[@JackTheMimic]

Has any one spoken to her after defeating TW&TD inside Drangleic Castle?

[@zagrebastrophotographer2686]

Souls in DS can be held yes? Does that mean you could physically shit on a boss soul? Or better yet, piss on it to mark your territory?

[@TheBeastr]

Now your saying we Mark the Boss Souls making them eternally ours forever?

[@Anon-qp3kt]

After watching the ending of this series, Vendrick did the right thing. He was letting the fire fade

[@tkong6465]

He chose to not do anything. He knew the fire would be lit the fire will always be lit eventually. He simply gave up before hand. This is why he hid his soul from the queen he didn’t want her ushering in the age of dark he left it up to the chosen undead in a sense to make the decision. Or he gave up hoping the seeker of fire would find a 3rd option. He didn’t necessarily want the fire to fade he was disgusted by his Queen you can tell by his actions. He was just stuck in stasis. Really sad.

[@solairekenway3919]

Wow....from watching this, I realized that skeletons are just really really old hollows and that golems are made of titanite. If you look at their heads, they've got a similar structure to the Titanite Demons from the first game. So im pretty sure Vendrick went to Lordran a.k.a. Land of the Giants. Considering that's what would be left if the gods left and there's no kingdom there to stop hollowing. And the fact that the lordvessel is shattered in Majula.

[@Demmidude]

he took the lord vessel!! FUCK YES!!! that makes sense! didnt think of that

[@solairekenway3919]

yeah look in the basement of the mansion in Majula, and in the room where the skeletons are, in the corner, are shards of the lordvessel. I saw a video comparing the shards to the Lordvessel in Dks1. Exact match.

[@solairekenway3919]

***** good point.... I never thought about the warping..... I actually have no idea. Maybe someone tried to replicate it?

[@Demmidude]

***** tbh i think that one doesnt really matter, it was just to make the dlc more attractive to potential customers

[@solairekenway3919]

***** and that's only if you got a special edition of the game.

[@MatchXbox360]

Hey vaati is it possible that the Giant Lord is the Last Giant Boss? I mean the size would fit and the Lord is the only Giant who uses a sword so it would kinda explain why the Last Giant would rip off his arm to use it as a weapon

[@saintsundere]

Man this video was so satisfyingly edited and written, esp the way you cut in the voices. There is something really haunting and compelling in the characterizations of DS2 that I didn’t get the same feels from in DS3. Like, just with the Emerald Herald alone. You’re the main reason I continued on with downloading and playing DS2 and now DS1; was almost content to finish after Bloodborne but your vids really intrigued me. Glad I ended up playing the other two in series! Thank you VaatiVidya!

[@ryangeorge-mcdowall2497]

Fantastic video - I had just finished watching a playthrough of this game and your video clarified so many things. Superb editing and well presented. Thank you!

[@Tehdeemu]

Does anyone else find Vaati's voice very calming and just simply nice to listen?

[@francisgriffiths1990]

The video editing for this is amazing...great video, as usual!

[@jerrym1218]

I love Dark Souls 2, the tragedy of King Vendreck is a rather depressing and yet noble one.

[@doravouth9266]

Really nice explanation and video! When I saw Vendrick I thought that gradually seeing the curse spreading across his body he begun losing his mind and tearing his clothes to see how much time he still had because of his fear of eventually turning hollow.

[@cheesdog]

I find it interesting that, for the very last boss fight of the game, Nashandra must enter the mist to get to us. Almost as if we are the final boss and she is the one challenging.

[@wicket316]

Dude, your voice is amazing! You make everything sound so epic. You could read the ingredients off the back of cereal box and make it sound amazing. Thanks for the video!

[@RoweEncoder]

I appreciate all the work you put into these two video. You did a great job at telling the story.

[@ericstevens9651]

Thank you for all the work you put into this. This is an amazing interpretation of the dark souls story and I feel enlightened on the story now. This was probably the only 20 minute long KZbin video were I was still interested in the subject afterwards. Thank you.

[@xenaioaks5363]

This is why I love Dark Souls 2, like I can understand Dark Souls and Dark Souls 3. But Dark Souls 2 is conflicting that they tempt you to keep the world going, or end it but it's all pointless because their's only one end

[@JA-kr1lz]

I hope in dark souls 3 you go back in time before the dragons were slain so you had to kill the 4 great souls again to stop the cycle from even existing. It would be so awesome seeing the 4 great knights (ornstein, artorias, ciaran and gough) take down some dragons, then you had to fight all of them. That would be awesome!

[@innuendomaker]

Kudos, both for the depth of the research and the overall very high quality (the clarity and tone of your voice-over, the editing etc.) of the video. now the game makes MUCH more sense. thank you.

[@Chester3989]

VaatiVidya, thank you so much for making this video and explaining the almost unexplainable. It makes so much clear to me now. The timing and the making of the video are so remarkable I was bound to listen every word you say. I enjoyed watching your video and you have a good voice to listen to.

[@ryanpercival7220]

What sepearated DS 2 from others is that in this specific cycle, the king realizes before his cycle is over that the cycle exists, and tries everything to defy the cycle, not like Gwyn, out of arrogance, but because he knows the workings of his world, and wants to break the rules for his kingdoms benefit. I feel like Nashandra is too weak to reach the throne without your help. I dont think she has a choice but to use the undead and then kill them. Thats probably why she tries to curse you. She wants you to hollow out as fast as possible when she fights you.

[@Kucoz]

Its so sad you never really finished the dark souls 2 series. I get it bloodborne and shit. But man I really loved dark souls 2

[@TotalWar01]

I have to congratulate you on these vids VaatiVidya. Well documented and researched and you have opened my mind to what really happened. I had an inkling when I played and completed Dark Souls 1 and 2 but I always enjoy your vids on the lore and explanations. You always point out things I didn't know. Keep this kind of stuff up! :)

[@levraininjaneer]

Thanks for making this - I could pick up on some of this as I played through the game, but you really put the pieces together and I appreciate that a lot!

[@Darkholow]

I would listen to you talk about Dark Souls lore all day...very interesting stuff.

[@TheKaelisOnline]

Oddly, one of the first thing I think I understood about DS2 lore when I played it was the fact that hollows are emprisoned underground because they cannot be killed. I'm convinced all those human shaped "totems" you see in Black Gulch and near the pit at Majula are hollows. There are structures to get them down the pit and stock them, "prisoners" to take care of the job, and "The Rotten embraces all, in the sanctuary for all things unwanted or tossed away.". Hollows are treated like nuclear waste!

[@mightyminotaur5056]

This is a beautiful video. Everything in this game has so much more meaning when you understand what you're doing.

[@decinator252]

And now my small contribution to lore analysis. The Last Giant and Giant Lord are the same being. No time paradox's come from killing the giant lord because you kill him in a MEMORY not in the PAST. There is a difference.

[@VaatiVidya]

Thank you Tywin be nice to tyrion pls

[@decinator252]

No promises.

[@AzikuraProductions]

This was brilliantly made good job

[@coolbrando1]

I just love your videos! You never cease to deliver more depth to an already deep and complex storyline that is Dark Souls...keep it up! :D

[@Kaiser68]

I love your videos and your calm voice. I had forgotten questions from playing the game that you explain so well. Thank you for your hard work!

[@biplav32]

I should have finished this game before watching this.

[@micab7660]

Have you finished the game yet?

[@darukan]

@@micab7660 bruh

[@darukan]

@@micab7660 4 years ago

[@piyush6631]

So did you finished the game

[@biplav32]

@@piyush6631 yes

[@Vicioussama]

To hopefully answer some of your questions, I think what Vendrick stole from the giants was the lord vessel with the old souls within it as well as the kiln of the first flame itself. Using their power he learned more about the soul arts and how to manipulate the soul. I also imagined he took the 4 great ones souls that were Nito, Seethe, the witch of izalith, and gwyn's and split them among his comrades. We know the Old Iron King and Vendrick were comrades iirc, though, after Vendrick conquered the Old Iron King and his realm (taking some of his army for his own, why we find the same soldiers from the old iron king to his own castle). When they talk about Vendrick subduing or mastering the 4 old ones, I think it means he mastered their great souls from the lord's vessel/kiln of the first flame, not that he actually killed them as we the player do in both DkS1 and DkS2. However, the power of the souls were too great for the people he gave it to (or the saint he gave it to died anyways and the soul lost in the bottom of the abyss) and they went mad and became corrupted and then fused with the souls and became something more and no longer in control of themselves. Thus, we have the 4 great ones we're tasked to kill. Now, the giants he stole it from, I believe, were from what was once Lordran and had made use of the lord vessel. Either they were the old gods related to Gwyn and Gwynevere and Gwyndolin and their sorts and some how twisted or changed, or perhaps they came after the fact. The reason I think Nashandra was trying to kill you for the Giant's Favor is the same reason you get it from the Giant's Lord (much as you get his soul) when you kill him. That upon killing the one who has it grants it to the killer. And, as you pointed out, you can't get to the Kiln without the Giant's favor. To go back to Vendrick stealing the kiln, I think Nashandra used him to steal it because she wasn't strong enough to beat the giants herself (being only a weaker part of Manus and such) and so she had Vendrick do the deed. She tricked him into believing the giants were planning something bad for Vendrick's people and his realm, but instead used him for her own purposes. The kiln, perhaps then, is what Vendrick used to create the golems in the first place. After all, there are many golems around the kiln that move once you approach having killed Nashandra. There are still some questions with my theory, but ya, that's what I gathered about DkS2.

[@arterialshadow]

It's more likely that Drangleic was built upon the land of Lordran, as ENB seems to think (and he worked on the guide book). This is evidenced by the Duke Tseldora's Archives near the crystalline structures and the birth of the Smelter Demon from the lava around Iron Keep (perhaps it sank into Lost Izalith?) Just food for thought.

[@Vicioussama]

Roodoe Eh, there's evidence to hint that it's Lordran, but it's not very conclusive. Especially when you take into account that there's evidence for the place being Astora and Vinheim as well. For example "The original Dark Souls' lingering dragoncrest ring description reads as follows: 'A special ring granted to only the most accomplished sorcerers at Vinheim Dragon School. The ring is engraved with a lingering dragon, and boosts the length of the effects of sorceries.' Compare that to Dark Souls 2's lingering dragoncrest ring description: 'A ring used long, long ago in a land that existed where Drangleic does now.'" Now, that doesn't prove it's Vinheim either cause we know that the accomplished sorcerers (like Big Hat Logan) moved abouts from vinheim and brought their rings with them and the DkS2 ring says it was "used" long ago. As for possible being Astora "The Elite Knight Set was a famous armor set from Astora which was said to be in the south of Lordran. Drangleic is now famous for making that set out of bradden steel. This correlates well to the relative positions and the plot of the game. It could also explain why there is a sunbro shrine in Drangleic if you follow the line of thought that Solaire of Astora is the first born son of Gwyn."

[@lBlackSasuke]

The God Emperor Chancellor Wellagor says that Vendrick VANQUISHED the 4 old ones and built this land upon their souls. Stealing and vanquishing are two very different things. Drangleic was built on the same land as Lordran just further along the cycle.

[@Vicioussama]

lBlackSasuke I could still see vanquishing working here. I said he stole the lord vessel from the giants and the kiln of the first flame and then he vanquished the great souls within. That is, perhaps the souls themselves no others could defeat/master, but Vendrick was the only one skilled/strong enough to.

[@lBlackSasuke]

So by vanquishing you mean he absorbed them? In a similar way that the player character absorbs souls?

[@michael510D]

I Love Your Work. Thanks for all your Dedication & Time spent researching and making these Dark Souls(1,2,3) & Bloodborne Videos.

[@velstorios9473]

Man , thanks a lot for these 2 videos , it really took me deeper into the lore of the game and made me love the game even more ^^

[@Wildcat144]

Can you make a video explaining both Dark Souls 1 and 2's story line together, now that we know new things about both? I think it'll be a really good video to do and help a lot of story driven fans.

[@VVeltanschauung187]

What makes Dark Souls compelling is that it’s basically a Spenglerian fantasy epic set in the twilight of a civilization. The first flame is a pretty clear analogy for the animating metaphysical principle of a civilization, for example. The whole game is just example after example of the faded glory of a once-great age. Even themes of historical cycles in it. Not sure if it’s intentional or if it simply speaks to the same truths that Oswald Spengler articulated on its own but I like it either way.

[@ManOnTheMoon921]

Nice research made by you. Keep up the good work. The Dark Souls Storyline is both frightening and amazing at the same time.

[@colorays]

Thank you for this. This helped a lot. Playing through the first time I was quite confused and a bit annoyed, but as with the first game, once the explanation for the events becomes clear, I find myself loving the game even more.

[@degesofication]

Brilliant work. Keep it up.

[@ChronoBaw]

Vaati, do you plan on doing any more of the dark sousl 2 story mode in the future? there are several areas taht you didn't explore and would be amazing to see

[@maltsutty]

VaatVidya I just want to say thank you for making these videos. I try my best to read everything and listen carefully in the game but you always confirm my beliefs or tell me what actually happened. The way you tell the stories is great too, anyone who can tell me exactly what happened in Bloodborne deserves more than a like! seriously, of all youtube personalities you are the best. Plus this seemed like a LOT of work so again from some random internet stranger I sincerely thank you

[@johnathanonie8816]

Your lore videos are great. Very entertaining and they really make alot of sense. Bravissimo!

[@chopstikz127]

Dark Souls 2 is my favorite of the series.

[@Chimken_nunget]

Right? A lot of people complain about a lot of the enemies being knights but I think it works given the context of the story and environments.

[@z-virus8433]

If nashandra wanted to be so powerful why was she so weak that i face rolled her?

[@grfrjiglstan]

Because you became strong from the barriers set in your way before.

[@z-virus8433]

***** But but but.... I was level one....

[@grfrjiglstan]

Z-Virus Then you got gud.

[@z-virus8433]

***** That was my first play through i'm playing NG+ and i'm just destroying the bosses no problem.

[@metalwater81]

+grfrjiglstan she is kinda weaker than a lot of the barriers put in our way especially if you take away her curse balls then she might as well be a boss found near the beginning.

[@jacobiztight]

Dude i enjoyed this video so much! and your other one. it cleared up dark souls 2 so much, thank you. 10/10 would watch again.

[@raddomcfatto115]

10:00 Jesus how? You cut all of them perfectly together. This is so well made for a 21 min video, you put everything into this 10/10.

[@mgsRyder]

I feel like there needs to be a Dark Souls School, i've watched over 10 videos some over 20 minutes like this one and while i do get some of the things, its just too many names and places and items to get it all straight.

[@davidamajako961]

Repeat and repeat

[@JohnnyOrgan]

Well put together. Bravo.

[@djash1]

That was really well made vaati I really enjoyed this and appreciate your hard work keep it up!

[@LyraXS]

Best Lore Video I've ever seen! Vaatividya your Legend! Goosebumps more than one time...

[@5haun298]

Dude your videos are hardcore man. Really appreciate it, I have seen the Dark!

[@OneColdtruth]

***** true,he's legit as gold.

[@arphel5439]

Everytime I watch 2:33 - 3:58 I always get the feeling and cry a bit. I'm not ashamed to share this. It's sad and beautiful at the same time.

[@xVmbra]

Congratulations on this video man, you did it a long time ago but I just recently watched it 'cause I just beat Dark Souls 2 for the first time and I needed some answers. Thanks, very entertaining aswell!

[@isiahflores6275]

Good job putting all of the pieces together. It all makes sense now.

[@grimer1011]

i believe aldia transformed himself into the dragon and thats why they call it an imposter also when the dragon speaks he speck using we almost like there are more than one being in the same mind

[@marukarumu13]

or giants are a hive mind and that's why they could track vendrick because he stole their power's like mind talking

[@grimer1011]

that dosnt explain how the golems function which is what he stole from them

[@easy8077]

And otherwise you cant explain how aldia disappeared + there are these big malformed half dragon half human creatures and if becoming an acient dragon is the "cure" its obvious that aldia would have been the first one transforming into a dragon when he found out how to do that...

[@grimer1011]

so i think it is aldia and a giant whom talk to you and the bones where just used to take the appearance of a dragon

[@marukarumu13]

makes sense usually the answer with the most proof wins lol