Dark Souls PvP: 10 Tips For Beginners

there is the list of poise breaks.
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[@arnavkalgutkar6169]

In b4 the remaster drops

[@connorsucksatgames2263]

"Remaster"

[@torpid]

@@connorsucksatgames2263 reeeemaster

[@torpid]

Eeee

[@ThisGoose]

I thought I was getting good at this game. Then I tried PvP.

[@AS7up]

you're just like me I mean you just feel like you're shit again

[@AcasualGamer1]

You will get there inevitably if you don't rage quit. Then, the game will be really awesome. Keep at it.

[@AS7up]

+A casual Gamer yep I tried and made another character and got good at pvp man I feel awesome again 😂

[@AcasualGamer1]

+AhmadDodgeball Good. Keep it up cause that will keep the multiplayer alive for longer

[@UrbanCohort]

I like PVP but I'm too much of a Sunbro build to actually engage in it :x And I'm too 'honorabru' to ever 2v1 someone.

[@j.k.59]

"The important thing is having fun, so just relax!" [stabs a guy through the heart]

[@hugofontes5708]

just tried PvP for fun as a forest hunter guy walks _through_ me and backstabs then smashes my spine with Havel's club. lots of fun, do want to try again but with a more _solid_ character

[@VermillionMonk]

These are all useful tips if you don't play in Australia and don't have to simultaneously predict your opponents moves 2 seconds into the future as well worrying about getting backstabbed where you were standing 4 seconds ago.

[@MrThebronymaster]

So excited for DS:R just for the PvP and community to be back again

[@Ropewatch]

Turkey Warrior i have a question! Can people with the old dark Souls play with the new ones?

[@MrThebronymaster]

If you are talking about people with the original to the remaster then no. But if you're talking about if you played 1 you could jump into 3, might take a while to get used to it

[@riccardoocchipinti1080]

Dude I moved from Rome to Perth and everytime I get invaded I'm fucking monkaS. It's impossible to play online here ... And I even have a good connection for Australian standards

[@ethanbethan6151]

Some guy on PvP kicked my ass. He then joined my game and beat Ornstein and Smough for me. Well, jokes on me because I learned nothing and now I have to kill them on NG+ without Xbox Live.

[@SuperSecretAgentNein]

You might've figured this one out already but you can still occasionally summon npc blue phantoms, in this case Solaire. He's helpful if only for keeping one of those two assholes occupied.

[@Stryfe52]

SeraWasNever Damn, for me Solaire fucking died to Ornstein and I had to face buffed Ornstein by myself

[@lightbrand_]

yeah I think summoning is too powerful in dark souls, just as an example bell gargoyles get obliterated by solaire, while on my first playthrough where I never summoned anyone I was the one getting obliterated, as they proceeded to be the hardest boss in my entire playthrough

[@CynfarLP]

MMO Combat should be more like this, instead of stupid ability spamming and winning through the better build, instead of Skill

[@UrbanCohort]

Depends on the game and the end-user :) I enjoy games like DS and Chivalry as much as, say...WoW or SWTOR.

[@blackdragonkalameet3844]

Cynfar lag won't allow for it

[@jacob.g.l1592]

Urban Cohort Like DS and Chivalry can be compared.

[@jayydudley5897]

Thats what i always say but people never give ds a chance because they dont wanna learn techs

[@FurthestBen]

One piece of advise i have: Learn to wake-up parry, I've gotten so many people with this that try to wake-up hit me with a weapon. Wake-up parry is basically when you get hit on the floor by a large weapon, parry or backstab...but instead of rolling away as soon as you get back up, look at them and hit parry as soon as you get up. You'd be surprised how many people you'll parry with this. I've won fights that I should of lost this way because someone tried to wake-up hit me. (If they bring out a pyro-flame, catalyst or talisman though....roll away!)

[@feuggstrix]

What if you wanna heal doe

[@FurthestBen]

um...if you are on low health in a duel, don't heal at all. If you are in a normal invasion, make sure it's safe to heal before doing so.

[@sagoo1346]

FurthestBen I always jump attack to wake-up hit people. If your opponent is smart, that's what they'll do.

[@FurthestBen]

stereotypicalpenguin Most ain't so I do it anyway.

[@ch33zyburrito36]

How come you always get put against people with low armor? Every time I get invaded its some dude with all Havels and a katana of some sort.

[@JUIIICED.]

Not in the township. Where do you pvp, and what system?

[@JaggerIsBurritos]

+Supah I actually ran into a havel chest, dusk crown, dwgr, dark magic spamming sorcerer before in the township, which is by far my worst township encounter.

[@cynical8330]

HammerMC Chris O'neil 4/20

[@simple_most788]

i found my worst encounter like today he was a havelmage that would point down at me every time, almost killed him and he used a divine blessing (and then pointed down) and then he started black crystalinv away?????? (obvs japanese)

[@irocc]

Elite Knight armor, grass crest, baller swag sword, and a lightning washing pole r1 spammer is nothing less than a bucket of disease.

[@videogamefreak429]

thanks for making this video so i can watch it 5 years later as a noob for the remaster

[@austriab1]

8:37 If I didn't know any better, I could swear this was a shadow of Yharnam cosplay. I hope they had a fun time when Bloodborne came out.

[@cdurkinz]

+Hollow Marthon Well the video was published in 2013 quite a bit before we saw all of the mobs for BB.... I've seen so many fashion souls' builds that I would say it's probably just a coincidence. Bloodborne is good fun though, haha.

[@bubbajoe117]

PVP is a waste of time until you have beaten the game 10 fucking times and have everything thats worth having. otherwise its just a annoying way to serve as someones soul cash . . .

[@MrIwont4get]

PvP is never a waste of time, in fact I prefer it to the PvE and consider that more of a waste of time more than the PvP is. But of course that is my opinion, just as your comment was your opinion. That being said, you could be a little more polite about it considering this is a PvP focused channel.

[@bubbajoe117]

MrIwont4get i didnt mean it in any offense to the content creator or any of the PVP audiance. im just saying that i havent had any decent PvP experiance so far whats so ever. and everytime i come to something trying to find help/stratagies its always someone with a outragously long health bar and insanely powerful weapons and armor thats loaded with humanities and souls.

[@MrIwont4get]

bubbajoe117 Really you will have a really difficult time finding any good PvP now due to the fact DkS2 is out. The pvp meta for this game was SL 125, and the average health is actually around 1700-1800 for most people. I only have 1500. My armor gives defenses in the 300s across the boards, so it isnt great but I like the way it looks. As far as the humanity and souls are concerned, those are just proof I pvp a lot and somewhat know what I'm talking about. Also what would you consider an "insanely powerful weapon"? I find that most weapons in this game were pretty well balanced and the varied movesets are really nice.

[@bubbajoe117]

MrIwont4get my max HP is 862 and for the most part i still have the default theif armor for the most part as my best armor.im lvl 43 and my best weapon is a Drake sword +2 . . .

[@MrIwont4get]

bubbajoe117 You're still pretty new to the game, in time you will be able to handle invasions better. Look into the other weapons in the game. The drakesword is ok for getting started in the game but you will need to switch weapons soon. It you would be surprised how quickly your build will become more powerful, it just takes a bit of time.

[@xryeau_1760]

instead of using the same character with different weapons, i literally just make a new character with a new set-up for a weapon i want to use. i do this A LOT too. as for parry-specific items (buckler, target shield, parrying dagger), i personally don't like using those, the animation simply doesn't feel right to use for me. and as for playing with 0 poise, i do a lot of glass cannon characters so i've adapted to having little-no poise/defense, however recently i made a build meant for being fast with heavier armor. as for parrying people myself? i've wanted to start doing that but... no one's around to fight me to help me get good with parrying anyway!

[@sinjinvancleef2708]

Wow its not like this is what almost everyone does

[@sethb023ify]

Used your video for the first time in almost 5 years as a refresher for the remaster

[@lockeddownboxing9904]

I’ve been playing this game since its release back in 2011. I’ve just had an idea of searching KZbin for newcomer guides to see what’s going on that plane so I’ve watched your video and I must admit that its a classic within classics. I want you to be aware of it.

[@MrIwont4get]

Thanks, that means a lot!

[@PedroJPedro]

Poise break points: Ultra great sword, Greataxes, and Great Hammers 1handed 51, 2handed 76. Great swords, Curved great swords, Axes and Hammers 1handed 36, 2 handed 53. Straight swords, Curved swords, Katanas, Halberds, Whips, spears, Fist 1handed 21, and 2handed 36. Pierce Swords and Daggers 6, 1handed and 8 two handed. Other notables: Black Knight Great Axe 1handed 40, and 2handed 60 Black Knight Halberd 1handed 31, two handed 45 Running Greatsword 1handed 41, 2handed 56 poise

[@hamptonbishop132]

For anyone who doesn't know , you can get the red sign soapstone in painted world of ariamis where the giant man birds are up the staircase.

[@Shot1608]

more of an advanced tip but for example if you notice your opponent is using pyromancies you can quick switch to a black knight shield. If he is using magic try switching to a crest shield or a spell stoneplate ring

[@Grushvak]

#1 tip for newbies who are too lazy to git gud but still want to win fights: be the guy at 10:50

[@PadFeiLong]

Great Video and great job on all the weapon showcases. You have been a huge help to those who want to be more creative with their PvP builds.

[@TheRagefires]

You forgot the most important rule, HAVE GOOD INTERNET. I have at&t and PvP is not fair at all, I mean I'll go on tears some days and get 10 kills without dying, but most of the time people will be 5 feet in front of me and I get back stabbed, take no damage, and when I'm getting up from the imaginary back stab, I'll actually get back stabbed and die.

[@marfmellow4413]

laggsouls pvp

[@DKUmaro]

One last advanced technique to mention would be Dead angling. EWGF got a good guide for that.

[@MrIwont4get]

the gold tracer can only be roll buffed, and unless you are on pc then there is no hack for being able to simply buff a gold tracer.

[@OffhandZweihander]

It definitely works vs. low poise builds because that combo is basically a stunlock and most people really don't expect that. Throw in the fact that you can dead angle the offhander slap and you got yourself quite a nifty trick :3

[@OffhandZweihander]

truer words were never spoken

[@LordOuro]

I spoil the ending of star wars to those who invade and kill me....

[@yakuzashibe]

Good lad :3

[@knightsofdiscountalot5306]

Ouro Noice

[@wesley3421]

The salt pleases me

[@TurtleDiezel]

Let the salt flow through you

[@Yougobyebyenow]

31 poise is a good number, it lets you withstand a hit from 2h katanas, curved swords and most stun-locky weapons. If you're not good at parrying/dealing with greatswords and other heavy weapons, then you may want to go with 53.

[@OffhandZweihander]

I didn't "knock it" because most of the time dual wielding is about the only thing you'll see me do

[@iduncan5424]

I respect the fact that you just wave instead of doing that douchey "Well what is it?" emote. proper etiquette seems so rare in online communities.

[@ShadeofBlack1199]

I love using the offhand greatsword, that swing has such a wide angle, its phantom is great for interrupting back stabs or dead angling thorugh sheilds

[@vincienco]

The list of poise breaks is a huge help

[@MrIwont4get]

no problem!

[@Nicksta2017]

Yeah, I became a Darkmoon Blade directly as the antithesis to the only ones I've fought against.

[@kizilable]

An excellent thing to do with ultra greatsword wielders for a free hit (most of the time), it to tap roll to leap backwards the light attack. Its good because its fast and most of the time if they charge in you land the hit when they miss their strike.

[@TheDarkLinkofDeath97]

OMFG a Darkmoon blade that doesn't 1 shot you with Power within, DMB, SLB, TWOP, and WOTG as backup. Finally...

[@Pumpkxnhead]

I want to share that for a low level class you will want to care more for poise than for armor rating, i wear barely anything, but in conjuction with the wolf ring i can make up for a bad roll

[@MrIwont4get]

i am on xbox, but i have played on ps3. the suggestion i gave does apply to both.

[@randomdude36547]

the estoc dark moon blade is a beast

[@kettlemagic]

Fast roll I-framing through Wrath of the Gods at point-blank range disappoints me so much from a balance perspective.

[@MrIwont4get]

Back in the day I could do it while fat rolling too. Same goes against dark bead. It's just a timing thing really.

[@MrIwont4get]

i think the best description for a quality build is one with at least lvl 27 strength and 30 dexterity. the majority are between those levels and lvl 40 in each. a lot of people use 27/40, or 40/40. i personally use 40/35 due to the fact i use strength weapons more often

[@pinkiepie6443]

I kinda found that a good way to counter Sunlight blades and Darkmoon blades would be to use the Effigy shield, (16 faith IS needed, but 90 phys and 90 lght resistance is worth it) and the Crest shield... Just turtle carefully, and outlast their buff and they are completely powerless.

[@phantomninja01]

Tried PvP for the first time today as a Forest Protector, got pulled into a world where I was immediately ganked and killed. My next 3 invasions were against the same guy who wasted my with a katana.

[@kevgmei]

Princess' Guard, Painted World, Kiln, challenge a friend and set rules. My best PvP tips.

[@SuperDynakin]

Tip 10 is the best IMO.

[@didhedied666]

i would be VERy interrested in the poise breaks.

[@corkey29]

i mainly follow the last rule, i'm terrible at this game, but I always have fun!

[@69reno69]

I've found that gravelord's sword is awesome in pvp for the entirety of it's move-set if nothing else. Note that for such a high phys dmg weapon it's easy to poise-break someone and stagger them purely from an R1 spam if they're too close in during poise-break. I've killed many player by simply R1 spamming their health down and right as the fight draws to a close and stamina is down to last hit range I toss in an R2 for good measure and even if they go to backpeddle the reach from this lunging stab finish usually does the trick. It's a mean weapon to use on someone who likes to overuse their acrobatics in hopes of avoiding hits, and outlasting your stamina bar.

[@iTzJakedood]

Anyone else getting ready for that remastered pvp?

[@MrIwont4get]

not even close...if it was then why would i also wave before a match? it is a simple "hello, lets have a good match" and "bye, thanks for the match" if i wanted to do something equal to what you were saying i would spam well what is it or prostration to make it look like i'm tea bagging them. waving before and after is being friendly like bowing, without risk of people thinking you want to have a 100% honorable duel.

[@MrIwont4get]

the standard level for pvp is between 100 and 130. there is a pretty good chance of getting invaded, unless you remain in hollow form. if you do there is no chance

[@DARKHELLSTORM]

does anyone still play this on PC?

[@jadengrattan3225]

I've found it to be very active at SL125, not quite as much at lower levels though.

[@underwaterhobo5247]

+Jaden Grattan do you have mods to find players of something i can never find anybody.

[@shahabazkhan1]

So late, but you can install a small program to get you more players, if you're on PC. It works for me very well. Search for Wulf's Connectivity mod. And no, you can't get banned.

[@AltarOfPlagues92]

Best Tip: Increase your stats as much as possible, don't be a fatty/tank, make sure you can roll as fast as you can. Fat rolls: easy backstabs

[@JUIIICED.]

Nah leveling is for casuls

[@AltarOfPlagues92]

Souls...you either waste them on leveling up or on tons of items...best to waste them anyway than let your oponent have them...Dark Souls is fascism, the strong do what they want and the weaker suffer all they must! No mercy! No souls for other player *evil grin*

[@JUIIICED.]

I dont know if you're trolling or whatever, but people dont get your actual souls. They get souls depending on your soul level. If you're level 125, as an invader you drop 45900, and as a host somewhere around 9000. It doesn't matter how many souls you have in your bar, its determined by your level

[@AltarOfPlagues92]

"LEVEL UP IS FOR CASULS" yeah...so just don't level up, leave your health at 500 and die with one invader attack, and dexterity at 15 so you can't use weapons, and inteligence/faith at 12 so you can't use ANY DAMN THING! :D fuck off kid. Dark Souls is fascism level up till you can't anymore

[@JUIIICED.]

I was joking at first, chill out lol. Anyways, people do just fine at 125. Leveling past there isn't really necessary but no ones stopping you, people do it just to challenge themselves a bit and find more pvp

[@iSuicyde]

Typically a quality build is either 27/40 or 40/40 (Str/Dex). Its based off weapons scaling off of both.

[@downsjmmyjones101]

First time killing an invader today. Was super nervous. Managed to dispatch pretty easily which has pushed me to level up in the Gravelord Servant Covenant. Gravelord Greatsword Dance, here I come!

[@shindig9000]

What is defined as a quality build

[@OffhandZweihander]

Sometimes, yes. Try it out with a BSS mainhand, so you can combo the offhander slap into 2 Balder stabs - but sadly a lot of people stack a lot of poise so that strategy doesn't always work out :(

[@dvont1383]

Last tip was def the most important!

[@OffhandZweihander]

quality build master race

[@LukeSparrow221]

Thanks for the tips man, I can use them. Still wrapping my head around this games pvp.

[@TheDarkLinkofDeath97]

Do what I do, greatshield and Dragonslayer spear. Most players who spam WOTG are wearing lighter armor and you can break their poise with one blow (usually) and if your shield has high magic and physical defense, you can sit there, turtle up, and watch the dumbass spam... then poke him

[@SovereignOfNight]

thanks for the tips, question, have u faced anyone who was using the Giant Dad build, or a player who's gamertag is Velkaa??

[@MrIwont4get]

try kicking them, then circle around for a backstab. chances are they will expect an attack after the kick so they will parry, opening themselves up for the free backstab.

[@SoulEater1471]

love that strategy of throwing a bomb so they roll the other way

[@MrBrokewilly]

Excellent vid.All of ur points r right on the money especially the last one - just have fun with the game - take chances and no fear of losing.Keep on dropping the knowledge.

[@trenbolone007]

Hey there MrIwont4get. Just saw your clip which I found it very informative and useful. Especially the last advise you give: It is a game and we should all enjoy it and have fun with it. I look forward to seeing you one day on a PvP match. Thank you once again.

[@MrIwont4get]

stop by the stream sometime, it's easier to run into me than you'd think ;)

[@TheGreasyGremlins]

Don't knock it, commonly the offhand has a very fast attack I.E a dagger. This can be used to quick-hit and roll out for free damage during a slow swing.

[@JaggerIsBurritos]

5:04 first person I've ever seen to actually use the demon machete two handed r2.

[@MrIwont4get]

breaking the lock on would fall under the part where i mentioned playing unlocked, and i talked about poise.

[@darkwzrd4]

I'd love to use these strategies if my opponents gave me a chance. But I always seem to be matched up with trolls that either backstab me as soon as I spawn in their world, or they summon someone and the two of them gangbang me to death.

[@nirorit]

I think you're missing the most important things that beginners get frustrated from. (I'm a beginner too, and just recently learned them through watching many of your and others' pvp battles) Like when your opponent goes for a back stab release the lock on and attack directly backwards, or if you want to break your opponent's poise before he breaks your make sure you deal the first hit, or never attack twice against people who love parrying.

[@boogit9979]

I tried getting into DS1 PVP early this year for DS3... oh my god I hate it so much. So many twinkers, flippers, hornet ring users, weller of what is its, darkmoon bladers, bs fishers, chain stabbers, etc.

[@thepeanutter9972]

+Isaiah Ziegler When ds3 comes out be the early bird and get good

[@linx7668]

+Isaiah Ziegler its dead now...

[@c0nqu3r3rlol]

what's your opinion on people that absolutely MUST roll bs every single one of your attacks and never attack normally once?

[@GandizzleTheWizzle]

While watching a little fight club in the kiln I saw a guy do an about face while being chased and parry a zweihander 2h r2 it was pretty impressive

[@williamhoward3995]

Glad to see we can all still learn from each other while simultaneously murdering each other Lol

[@5150JamesA]

I love that idea! I dont think anyone has done something like that yet despite it being the bane of a lot of players

[@XenuBaby420]

"Remember, it's just a game. As long as you're having fun than you're doing what you should." Proceeds to TWoP Dark Bead Havel Mom Gold Tracer Crystal Great Club Hornet Ring an invader then use Well, What Is It? and then Look Skyward. As long as you're having fun (just poking fun, I love this game).

[@BachikoiBabi]

Okay, what do I do about people that do NOTHING but backstab farm? Especially when I'm nowhere near them, or not even facing away from them and they still lock me into backstab. Recently the big thing I've seen is I'll backroll (with darkwood grain ring) away from them, and they still manage to backstab without even moving. Is it just lag or something?

[@MrIwont4get]

play unlocked, when you start to swing just turn around and smack them in the face. i recommend 2handing a zweihander for that btw

[@OffhandZweihander]

also, dual wielding most funnestest playstyle IMO

[@TheGreasyGremlins]

I can see it working on low-poise builds especially the BSS which has a very fast strike. I have a pure STR character using a full Smough build and it's hilarious. Sometimes I lose but its so much fun so mash people as Smough. I'm currently doing a pure VIT build on a Dragon Covenant. 50 VIT 25 END and nothing else. SL60-70 range for invading.

[@nirorit]

Me too, but I like it, why don't you like it? I mean, you must get indicted because they liked battling you, because if you lost to someone good, than indicting him will help him to have more PVP.

[@thepeanutter9972]

Who’s waiting for the remaster?

[@sephimaru2198]

The more difficult thing for me is rather finding an opponent in the first place.

[@blakeneely9971]

I know right

[@mAnIaCoOkIeS]

What armor set should i wear if i really want to light roll but still have enough poise to not get stunned every friggen hit?

[@MrIwont4get]

i used a dagger and a bastard sword in my left hand. if you're interested in it check out my "dual wielding, variety is key" video for more info :)

[@MrIwont4get]

my build is a quality build, it lets me use pretty much any weapon in the game and a lot of combinations

[@nirorit]

True, I am, and that's why I didn't try to start any, really, if I said something that sounds bad, than I didn't mean it that way. And thanks for the calm response :) Buffing a Gold tracer isn't hacking, it's abusing OP glitch which's called the tumble buff (I think). Are you playing DaS on the computer? Heard that there are many hackers there. I played on PS3, a lot, and luckily I didn't meet any hackers. yeah played... Currently moved to Injustice, which is a great game btw :0

[@blackopschild]

since when is backstab fishing pro the only players that backstab fish are the ones that are skilled enough to actually win a fight fairly

[@ArchetypeGotoh]

Good tips, but what if you’re constantly drowning in lag and backstabbed from the front by twinks? Edit: but on a serious note, you don’t need vitality for PvE, but low HP in PvP means constant death, so what’s the goal for leveling your stats? My PvE strategy has almost always been boosting endurance and dex, two handing your weapon, using Int for the useful area navigation spells, and entirely ignoring vitality until the other stats hit 40. Help me?

[@MrIwont4get]

crystalline helm, hollow thief top, iron bracelets, wanderers boots

[@rewe97]

pvp is getting kinda sad and your tip of just having fun reminded me of one of the only fun matches i had. it was a guy cosplaying gough and instead of just rushing him and r1 spamming him to death i had two fun matches with him, just him using his greatbow and me using a composite bow i wish more people would just have fun, instead of being total scrubs. good video :)

[@MrIwont4get]

added a link to the bands youtube channel in the description

[@EivindDahl]

This is a really sweet video. Good information density, and very informative indeed! I want to PvP now.

[@blkfish92]

I play on ps3 and have A LOT of pvp experience and beating a roll backstab isn't very difficult if you're aware enough.

[@MrIwont4get]

that would be the sage robe, from big hat logans set

[@partizan7329]

All hail master parry king.

[@curtishaley3606]

aaaaaah the good ol days when you could take a hit to the face and not flail about at the slightest damage. r.i.p. poise

[@TheBr0seph]

I always assumed waving meant "hello" or "goodbye". I had no idea it meant "lol noob I killed you". I'll think twice before I ever wave to someone again.

[@Thiemann1966]

The problem with PS3 are the other players, two out of three duels will be against a darkwood grain ring hornet ring japanese bs fisher. The bad connection makes it even more frustrating.

[@yaboyswiggity]

How to you deal with players that are turtling behind high stability shields? all I run into when invading are new players that turtle and hackers...

[@LukeSparrow221]

You can easily roll through WOTG spam and go for a backstab.