The Swedish Submarine that Sank a US Aircraft Carrier

Brand-new, nuclear powered, capable of carrying twice as many aircraft as most competing foreign carriers, and protected by an entire task force... the $6.2 billion USS Ronald Reagan seemed invincible leading up to an international war game exercise in 2005. It was a stunning blow then, and a complete shock, when - against all odds - a super stealth submarine from Sweden snuck past the USS Ronald Regan’s defenses and scored enough mock torpedo hits to sink it during multiple attack runs. The Americans never saw it coming… and never saw it leave…
- As images and footage of actual events are not always available, Dark Docs sometimes utilizes similar historical images and footage for dramatic effect. All content on Dark Docs is researched, produced, and presented in historical context for educational purposes. -

[@challenger3]

"The Americans never saw it coming, and never saw it leave" sounds badass

[@harry_2047]

Tartan holy I read this comment as it was said in the video

[@mohdridzuanisa2373]

not if it actually executes an attack. it would lose it's stealth very quickly because everybody would actually be looking harder.

[@kaptein1247]

@@mohdridzuanisa2373 no

[@rogrock9509]

Kaptein yes actually when tornados are fired they produce a bubble trail and the detonation of a torpedo would expose the submarine even more

[@andyduhamel1925]

@@rogrock9509 yet stealth torpedoes are being developed by the Russians ? Germany has apparently helped China do the same if Germany has a hand in it then its serious.

[@phishphood423]

That's one sneaky meatball.

[@indoctfool9412]

Falukorv..

[@Joel_B07]

Troll Berg haha

[@Horible4]

It is, but let's not get carried away. The facts here are that the Gotland Class submarine uses an ultra silent propulsion method to avoid cavitation in comparison to other diesel submarines. It's a fun story to think about how a smaller nation like Sweden could sink the mighty nuclear carriers of the United States. But that's all it is. The war game that's talked about was when a Swedish carrier was put in the perfect situation to attack the Reagan: - It had predetermined knowledge of where the carrier would be operating - It was able to attack a ship that was not traveling at its top speed, and therefore was able to keep pace - War games do not take into account countermeasures or weapon system failures The entire point of this story is to foolishly undermine the US Navy. In reality, the Swedish submarine would have no idea where the Reagan is. It doesn't have fuel to be wandering around the oceans for weeks hunting for it. And United States Carriers rarely travel at speeds with which the Gotland can match speed without cavitation occurring. None of these factors mean anything anyways because Sweden is an ally to the United States, no other country has such capable submarines besides the United States and their Seawolf class submarines. Let me ask you something: If it were as easy to sink American Carriers by just making stealthy submarines, why hasn't China kicked the United States out of the Pacific by now? Why does Russia refuse to challenge the United States for the seas? It's because it's not that simple. United States nuclear carriers are the most powerful and well protected weapons of war in the world, and every single Admiral, General and defense member would not argue that. It's an interesting story though, nonetheless. I've just seen it dozens of times now because it's easy to get views with making videos on this topic.

[@gamingchair2700]

Horrible4 nah us navy dogshit

[@gamingchair2700]

Stickey Sickness us navy dogshit

[@xXBL4CKGHO5TXx]

I can't find the instructions for this Submarine on the IKEA website, any help?

[@hinsh]

ask the Dutch, IKEA belongs to them now

[@bendover2461]

Hinsh shhhh, Swedes know more about ikea thank anyone inte the world...

[@ludvigs2389]

@@hinsh What a funny joke

[@failsbradley6464]

You can’t because it’s not real an aircraft carrier never got sunk since World War II

[@failsbradley6464]

Do you know we can blow up Sweden

[@1985Viggen]

US: We have the best navy in the world Sweden: Hold my Norrlands Guld

[@knibbeman]

Haha 👍

[@parabellum4224]

😂

[@arnebarne3522]

Klockrent!!

[@alvarburstrom702]

Legend

[@BoxWille]

haha😂😂

[@brtmeatburl6298]

Shortly after this, Sweden was banned from wargames for lag-switching

[@ludvighp6235]

Sir Drabbe that wasn’t a good 1

[@ddgaxelnilsson7855]

HACCCC HASHKS

[@kweeliso3601]

So true!! French Rafale beat a F22 raptor during a dogfight at the REDFLAG 2009....It was a humiliation for the US airforce. Since then France is no more invited to this event

[@BlackKnight-ll8qh]

😂

[@tntfreddan3138]

Outmatches everyone in Red Flag and Loyal Arrow air force wargames and now we have the best equipped sea vessels to take out the largest navy on the planet.

[@daniellimach5787]

Sweden: *im gonna do what's called a pro gamer move* USA : *you weren't supposed to do that*

[@theflanman1986]

Hey, you cheated

[@donnebes9421]

theflanman86 all is fair in love and WAR.

[@reggiep75]

Not GG.

[@RomantikongGinoo]

Crap is crap no matter how expenssive it is 🤣🤣

[@B3ni4mjn]

Limach evreone like that

[@jlc5148]

Everybody Gangsta Until The Ocean Speaks Swedish

[@tedde9995]

Ja jag brukar prata med havet då och då

[@phoz6504]

TDor jag med

[@leonpeonleon]

havet pratar svenska nu

[@Telruin]

Some hear waves. Swedes hear whispering.

[@Zerocarknowledge]

Jo men asså, man pratar ju med havet då och då.

[@davidvasquez08]

The Swedish take their “don’t get me involved in a war policy” pretty damn serious Post edit after 7months: I never expected this to the most commented and liked comment I ever did

[@rykerrobinson8275]

David Vasquez Swedes have some surprisingly good war equipment but not the military budget to mass produce

[@generalss3461]

David Vasquez nah they wouldn’t be able to hold an invasion

[@ericp758]

TheCamoTrooper 450 Sweden is one of the richest countries though? Do you mean not the money to mass produce or that they don’t prioritize to mass produce?

[@davidvasquez08]

Eric Petit they only make to defend the homeland mainly

[@generalss3461]

David Vasquez yes but even if they tried against China or the us they would lose

[@reswandance7993]

Who would win A whole task force w a Carrier Or 1 stealthy boi

[@anonymous-iu4th]

The stealthy boi

[@emiliospowerballer1441]

who would win: usa air force of 5000 aircraft strength with 400 ICBMs Or the country of sweden

[@intjin2658]

Emilios Powerballer some1 got offended...

[@rrmc_rex]

One aqua viking

[@jakob2049]

* one stealthy Swedish boi

[@zildjiandrummer1]

I don't usually comment on stuff, but you've been doing work on this channel: so consistent, high quality, well researched. Keep it up man.

[@johnnyyen4910]

Agreed! Him and mark Felton consistently put out great history videos.

[@TheblueTraxxasRustler]

Definitely

[@DumbledoreMcCracken]

@@johnnyyen4910 (He and Mark ...). When the pronoun is in the subject of the sentence, use he.

[@johnnyyen4910]

Apologies. I shall endeavour to use correct grammar in future youtube comments.

[@DumbledoreMcCracken]

@@johnnyyen4910 I just want you to project yourself in a better light. No apologies necessary.

[@ratrix9160]

USA: you can’t defeat me Sweden: haha submarine go shh

[@RENO_K]

Haha submarie-

[@ollelundin3701]

@@Justineexy its a joke. Take it

[@totifaddye6587]

It can't

[@unfathomablyunfathomable]

​​@@Justineexy"Finding a carrier is difficult" yeah since you totally can't SEE THEM FROM SPACE. Besides, the submarines are built to move in the Baltic Sea, where they're virtually undetectable. The Aircraft Carrier wouldn't have gotten away at that range.

[@richardmayes8797]

There are two kinds of warships: Submarines, and targets.

[@timtemple5218]

The biggest deterrant is Corona virus. It is a stealth killer. The Roosevelt carrier has been taken out by the virus. The Chinese is being degraded by the stealth virus

[@El_Presidente_5337]

@@timtemple5218 You sound like a internet philospher

[@theduder7709]

Go away POG.

[@richardmayes8797]

@@theduder7709 No Officer. I won't. Who do you think you are?

[@Lynch30]

A submarine is the most valuable asset of any navy

[@Meganonr1]

This is how the swedes won: Swedes Submarine: We'll give 5 boxes of Toblerone if you surrender. US aircraft: We surrender. Swedes: Gives 5 boxes of Marabou chocolate. US: This is not Toblerone. Swedes: We are not Switzerland.

[@charbelabboud1759]

Meganonr1 this has to be the best comment i’ve seen in a while 😂😂💀💀

[@plabaa1889]

I can't stop laughing 😂 😂

[@obosebbe6444]

Stolen

[@nikkogorne7202]

TF is that profile pic! Hahahaha!

[@pose.2592]

LOL!!! this is the best comment😂

[@Sir_LaggyMcGee]

US Navy: *Has some of the best warfare technology* Sweden: Ha Ha Submarine go 😶

[@jackswed584]

LaggyMcGee it go 😶 real guud

[@jackswed584]

LaggyMcGee it go 😶 real guud

[@jackswed584]

LaggyMcGee it go 😶 real guud

[@asgeiriversen3864]

Is that a bandit on your profile picture?

[@grekz2253]

i think that the swedish submarine is one of the best submarine in the world bc it dont make any sound

[@General-ws3xx]

America: lets invest millions of dollars to create giant aircraft carriers Sweden: Lets build a cheap submarine thats stealthy

[@americantacos7618]

*billions

[@darugdawg2453]

id rather have the carrier than a sub if im a general

[@americantacos7618]

@@darugdawg2453 It really depends who you're an admiral for if I were the admiral of the Swedish navy I'd prefer the subs because they can silently defend the coast against a larger navy and their range isn't an issue since they'll never leave the baltic, but if I were a US admiral I'd rather have the carrier battle group because the US will have to go longer ranges and the US naval producing infrastructure is good enough to replace ships in case of them being lost.

[@augustus4711]

America: Lets pretend spending $70,000 on haircuts and deduct it from tax.

[@americantacos7618]

@@augustus4711 more like United States: Letting all politicians go on multimillion dollar trips mostly foe the hell of it. *uses the taxpayers money like a boss*

[@ColonizedEthan]

This man's talking speed rivals Eminem

[@MorningNapalm]

Yeah, annoying. I tried 0,75x playback for a while, but I think it needs 80-85%.

[@steelisthemeal]

Morning Napalm what about m&m?😮

[@skittlesbutwithchocolatein2274]

Ignorant Ethan what

[@Azrazel_qwp]

I think its because he speaks so cut off. So like 2 words, pause, 3 words, pause, 1 word, end of sentence. Its just annoying

[@ItzZak178]

I was looking for a comment mentioning this lol

[@burd5475]

Usa: no you can't just sink our carrier Sweden: haha submarine go shh

[@spetsnatzlegion3366]

Bet the captain was laughing his ass off when the US ships radioed in at the end of the games to ask wtf happened

[@maxkol4380]

USA: Okay now we're going to have to destroy your whole country with one ICBM and salt the earth afterward. Sweden: Oh crap

[@Karl-Benny]

Now imagine a North korean sub with nuclear bomb set of right under a carrier group

[@___Me_]

Yes Bjørn,...Kabøøm! :)

[@joshstock6591]

@@Karl-Benny imagine 18 trident tipped nuclear missiles turning North Korea into a parking lot. We have submarines that are tracking the submarines that track our submarines lol.

[@Jodonho]

Imagine if the Vikings had submarines.

[@donmckeoun7990]

Swen put your viking helmet on and get up front we are going to ram big metal ship

[@feelx92ger]

@@donmckeoun7990 Venezuela: *starts sweating* See the recent RCGS Resolute incident.

[@donmckeoun7990]

@@feelx92ger what's next kamikaze Vikings on surf boards

[@williamkillingsworth2619]

What interest would a football team have in boats?

[@isaacschmitt4803]

I mean, there's the USS Minnesota. . .

[@TM-bn8pv]

I'm Swedish, and while this is a pride if mine, I'm still glad the US is on our side! 🇺🇲🇸🇪

[@thedieselguy4733]

Idek you could sink them big ass things

[@breadbug6101]

jerry Kinsey especially considering they never sail alone, usually with other support ships

[@iamasmurf1122]

ChonkBoi idiot it was a full battle simulation and they got through if it was real the aircraft carrier would have been destroyed and these war exercises are with a full complement of tech and support ships

[@siegfred4868]

@@thedieselguy4733 every aircraft carrier has a group of ships to protect it and one sub around it. it never go alone in the battlefield.

[@otto35vhcwhy77]

Im also Swedish!!! Hej!

[@isaacdoukaskomnenos8013]

Swedish navy: sends close up photo of aircraft carrier USA: uh I'm kinda getting bored maybe we should play another game now

[@flixy7242]

your name is screwed😂🤣😂

[@O5-15.]

Felix Grøn No.

[@augustus4711]

If I was the commander of the swedish sub i would have stuffed the torpedo tubes with surströmming cans and fired them at the us carrier. That would have teached them a lesson...

[@williamwildsjo1443]

@@augustus4711 too evil

[@ar12.]

Putin Bowling with nukes yeah Australia did the same thing but it was a us destroyer.

[@gatoradethe27th44]

*China be like:* *Feng Feng!... Write this down!!.*

[@jordanelder321]

Erik Johnson no

[@aycc-nbh7289]

Erik Johnson The US leased that submarine for two more years following this. If there were still any problems, they would have probably leased it for longer. In addition, these subs are 16+ years old and don’t have the technology modern subs have. Although they have noise suppression that was good by 2004 standards, they are no longer as quiet as US vessels.

[@Durnelis8148]

@@aycc-nbh7289 "UsA USA uSa usA USA"

[@simonkarlsson2252]

@@aycc-nbh7289 True, the swedish kockums have released new subs which are way better. Will be interesting to see how long it takes before US lease one of them and how many years they need in order to find it.

[@phoenixfire9176]

In a real life conflict half the task force would be blaring away with active sonar, being quiet does fuck all

[@Shadowfax-1980]

One of the goals of a war game is identify weaknesses of your own forces and tactics. Better to learn in a training environment then in actual combat!

[@parkerknowlton8909]

This is the point of a WarGame isn't it? It's meant to test and improve the tactics and technologies used.

[@DurzoBlunts]

Problem is any time we've intentionally tried to sink a carrier ourselves it has been much harder than expected. So a wargame "Kill shot" is much different than a real life shot from a sub.

[@Ubersnuber]

No shit, Sherlock

[@_kenny_7463]

@@Ubersnuber Chill mate

[@KuraIthys]

@@DurzoBlunts well, inevitably, the methods used to 'simulate' attacks don't account for all variables. for instance, air-to-air missiles in real conflict have a pretty poor track record, but how do you accurately simulate how the real weapons and defenses function in a wargame where actually firing at the target is off limits? There's limits and factors that cannot be accounted for by any test that doesn't follow through on the actual attack. You can of course, try computer simulations, but that presents a different variation of the same problem - the simulation is only as accurate as the data it's based on, and almost never perfectly reflects reality...

[@MrNewcaledonia]

I remember that we were told one thing while I was in the Navy, "It doesn't matter how many defenses you have, if the enemy launches enough missiles or torpedoes, a few are bound to go through". That's not what happened here of course, this was a precision attack, but it's just a saying to show us that nothing is invincible and that assumptions and cockiness cost lives and ships.

[@fulldangle]

They do these exercises to find weaknesses. The US has already fixed this weakness.

[@pieterveenders9793]

@@fulldangle Sure buddy... Like other countries don't adept their strategies and techniques, let alone give them all away to foreign countries such as the US....

[@cricketnerdnz3588]

@@pieterveenders9793you sound like a knob ... Yeah backward stuff like thats happening no shit.. you literally just admitted they have to copy AMERICA and act as of AMERICA isn't capable of doing the same... Or developing new strategies.

[@snuffle2269]

There are so many places, so many situations where this submarine would be perfect AND it has been improved since then. " One size fits all" seems pig-headed and a foolish. I think about the Danish Straits, Gibraltar, the strait between Yemen and Eritrea, Strait of Hormuz, and the Singapore Strait all of which have huge ship movements of importance.

[@dannygjk]

@@fulldangle Huh? Well of course.

[@Uchiha409]

“technically IKEA maker slipped thru the Carrier Battle Groups defenses”

[@rb3425]

I wonder how many screws came in that kit?

[@NewEnglandViews]

R B And did it come with that shitty little wrench 🔧 😤

[@kennetkarlsson4834]

IKEA VS WALMART Carrier .

[@tobiasjansson2912]

We have it here in ikea😂

[@zoolkhan]

carrier made by same people that build cities of paperhouses beeing wiped away each year when the hurricanes come.

[@scrambledeggy]

USA and Russia: We have the best military! Sweden: Starts WW3 and takes over the world Edit: Wow! My most liked comment ever! I just wished I had this many subs.

[@MichaelBylehn]

The only way they'll achieve that is through their Trojan horse bases scattered all around the world, codenamed IKEA.

[@AggeNoob]

Sweden have no Money but they have brainsss :D ( Swedish) vi har inga pengar med vi har hjärnor. :D

[@MaskinJunior]

No, we let the super powers fight it out, and we gladly sell them the arms to do so.

[@robban2252]

Agge Noob sweden has no money?? what are u talking about, we have great economy here lol

[@MaskinJunior]

@@robban2252 To be fair, we are a small country by absolute numbers, we are only wealthy if you start to calculate wealth per capita.

[@ItsSt3lth]

USA: Our biggest and strongest aircraft carrier will bring wins to the USA! Sweden: *litterally right next to the carrier* what does this button do?

[@anhnguyen-vs7fh]

you forgot to open the tube and heat the torp

[@vascodallama8735]

* Torpedo launching infesties *

[@Bitchslapper316]

Nuclear submarines can't be detected either, it's been that way for decades. I'm sure this video makes all this technology seem new and cutting edge but stealth submarines aren't new. The thing that makes this submarine design unique is that it's not nuclear powered and can be produced cheap in comparison to nuclear subs.

[@arjentromp12]

@@Bitchslapper316 nuclear subs are always more loud than diesel electric boats, the only class that sort of circumvented the problem is the russian Typhoon class, only one of which is operational at this moment. they used a naturally circulating water system for their powerplant, meaning that most of the pumps could be shut-down at low speeds, meaning you only hear the screw blades and the electric engines.

[@Bitchslapper316]

@@arjentromp12 The typhoon class is 45 years old and was the largest submarine class ever built, modern submarines have adapted similar technologies. Modern nuclear submarines are as undetectable as the AIP submarines like the one highlighted in this video. The cost of development and resources is what sets them apart.

[@LiquidGirlfriendFreeBoy]

Everybody gangsta until a submarine full of Swedish people taking a sauna pull a World Of Warcraft rogue ability

[@thisismyname3928]

[@Pastor24u]

Sauna is Finnish... it's like saying an American always go "Ello chaps, want some crumpets?".

[@unfortunateonblitz4984]

England and US and Russia competing each other on naval power Sweden shows up and sinks US carrier and just leaves US: Houston, we've got a problem

[@larryyeadeke2953]

Make believe, nothing more.

[@MichaelMulin]

@Trell Brown 🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀

[@congratsyoufoundmychannel1098]

*When the quiet kid stands up to the teacher in class:*

[@texan6673]

It was a war game, not a belligerent teacher classroom situation.

[@themax2848]

Texas Hunter sorry dad

[@MrJjppff]

Texas Hunter sorry dad

[@cavemanlovesmoke4394]

@@texan6673 sorry dad

[@sensei_monke798]

Texas Hunter sorry dad

[@briangreen1781]

"A super stealth sub from Sweden", try saying that five times fast.

[@stephenle-surf9893]

Keep taking a whiskey in between, it's the only way I'm going to get through the lock down with some of my sanity

[@saltyoddball550]

He only speaks at super-fast speed already

[@nommadd5758]

"Swedenastan"

[@arturs2436]

Portuguese sub"Barracuda" did similar to "USS Eisenower" during an mid 80s NATO exercise.

[@pauljohansson363kagy5]

@@nommadd5758 Wanker

[@bremo2059]

USA: *We have the strongest navy in the world* Sweden: *HA, Torpedo go boom!*

[@skittlesbutwithchocolatein2274]

BRemO usa has all the money but 3 subs is impressive

[@fogbank99]

Pro tip: Army = soldiers on land, tanks, etc. Navy = sailors on ships

[@rogrock9509]

I mean there is a reason why battle ships were decommissioned due to its size leaving it vulnerable, super carriers are just like that just more defended

[@EZLN]

Wow did you think of that all by yourself

[@ChinHobbyToys]

How can an army be torpedoed? I guess the torpedo have to fly and detonate n a dry land..😅😅😅😅

[@alextirendi5412]

in real life, swedish submarine kills US Aircraft Carrier, 1 hour later swedish capital city has the shape of a mushroom cloud.

[@vegetalimatoa5706]

True lol

[@russianarmy-rh2wi]

LOL I GET IT

[@gregchristopher2638]

I think the point might be we need to do a better job with carrier contingents lol. Because we should be worried about bigger adversaries than sweden.

[@simontili3374]

"The Americans never saw it coming, and never saw it leave" who they will bomb?

[@franklinkokong3598]

Hahahahahahahhaa

[@edgarmelendez6345]

I’m thinking it’s best to have your vulnerabilities exposed early so you learn to defend them - I'm sure this is a good thing in the long run (thank goodness we have friends like Sweden as well!)

[@andersgrassman6583]

Well, it work's both ways. :-D Sweden can not single handed fight Russia. We also need friends.

[@aug5925]

Just like when Swedish Gripen Fighter-Planes beat the Americans in 3 war games without losing a single round

[@TheHelghast1138]

Indeed! Sweden has some of the best arms manufacturing on the globe, absolutely world class military hardware... it is genuinely unfortunate that their government sucks so much.

[@cgustafson240]

While the Gripen is without a doubt an excellent platform. Especially for a nation like Sweden where their roles are defensive rather than offensive. I would really like to see the study that you were talking about. Any idea as to the name of it or a link to it?

[@BatMan-oe2gh]

@@cgustafson240 theaviationgeekclub.com/former-swedish-air-force-flight-engineer-explains-how-the-saab-gripen-can-dogfight-and-win-against-almost-any-dissimilar-aircraft/

[@jontee3437]

The three rounds you were talking about were against Norwegian pilots. Now lets be fair. The Gripen A version which was what the article was talking about, is even with some and better than most of the fighters of its era. Meaning these were planes with 80s and 90s tech. The Gripen E is comparable to the F35 and Sweden themselves say it possibly isn't quite as good, most of which has to do with the stealth technology that the F35 and F22 have which the Gripen does not have.

[@swedfilms]

And not a single time has the US Abrams been able to take out the Swedish modified Leopard 2.. Or any other country using a variant of the Leo for that matter.

[@gonun69]

3:17 that looks like a horrible touchscreen, if you have to press it three times to register

[@zipp4everyone263]

Yeah, imagine using that in a ready environment... "So, why did we loose all of our subs?" *Awkward silence "You know that touch screen?"

[@jesusvazquez326]

Lol

[@ampeg187]

Windows Vista

[@peterg.8941]

@@ampeg187 🤦‍♂️

[@mjfan653]

maybe its a rocket go boom button, needs an extra "do you really want to kill em all?" layer to it

[@theimperiumofman102]

Who would win. A top of the line navy technology and an entire escort group. One Ikea Sub.

[@justinpohl8986]

The Imperium of man, under the leadership of the God-Emperror.

[@hahathatsucks8019]

Underrated

[@MrStelmacki]

The top of the line technology. Which wasn’t allowed to be used during this war game.

[@robert4you]

Never underestimate IKEA 🤣

[@EATMEGUD]

America: "super stealth submarine from Sweden" Sweden: Wait "super stealth" you guys dont have good submarines?

[@karrskarr]

Sub standard! :P

[@kaalisurfer600]

They think that have the most advanced weapons lol

[@konzetsu6068]

Pumping money into the military was the only way for the us not to be classed as a third world country....oh wait...

[@the-blues-three]

@Rory Spoons Also the people are suffering because the healthcare system is failing 😒

[@maxfuentes496]

Wudi ' we aren’t suffering. We’re actually quite fine. I’ll live in New York, the epicenter of the corona virus in the US, and things aren’t as bad as they say on the news. The news always portrays things worse than they really are. So no people are not suffering as much as you think. Some may be suffering but it certainty isn’t everyone

[@sensory_deprivation4126]

"Hmm, yes, please continue" -- Vladimir Putin (jotting notes down)

[@TheHelghast1138]

Haha! So true!

[@andreworiez8920]

Until he tries it and his Kilo gets blasted before getting into position....why? Because we TRAINED against a more proficient crew with better technology

[@andreworiez8920]

@Rae West Accidents happen... And. Sure the boats maybe quite... But Russian training? Basic sonar capabilities?... Those still lag behind the West to the point where coastal ops are their only chance against the US Navy... Fortunately allied navies have exposed that issue with our training....

[@thebritace9351]

Andrew Oriez the smaller the army the more well trained it needs to be, that’s why Russia and the US don’t train to the same level as the European powers, they don’t need to.

[@andreworiez8920]

@@thebritace9351 I beg to differ.... The United States trains hard and it's excellence is only matched by the other NATO members.... Our personal are among the best out there, and we strive to raise the bar for our allies just as they raise the bar for us..... Our training is just as good as our European Allies.... And vice versa.....

[@KongoInSweden]

USA: Nobody can touch our aircraftcarriers! Sweden: Hold my beer!

[@KnallenN]

*hold my snus

[@rasmusjuhlin2171]

hold my snaps

[@leoklintman2889]

More like "Hold my Norrlands Guld" or "Hold my Pripps blå"

[@cypherdk85]

Swedes dont need anyone to hold the beer, they are very capable of drinking them while running their subs.

[@midget_spinner8449]

Original joke

[@chuckfinley7940]

Sweden: sinks US aircraft carrier Sweden: He was like father to me

[@Malsum]

This vessel is actually a good example of the Swedish way of doing things. We are a small nation in size, so we compensate lack of numbers with very high levels of technology and science. We dont build ten things, we build one that does the job of ten.

Do they service the whole sub with one wrench???

[@Marcusianery]

@ Yes, blessed by Saint Kamprad of Ikea himself.

[@NUMMEHARBEN]

@@Marcusianery LOL

[@Malsum]

Jokes aside, maintenance and durability is so to speak "scienced the shit out of", and that gives Swedish equipment cheap and long usage. The Swedish SAAB 39 Gripen fighter jet cost about 4800$ per flight hour, while only the fuel costs of the eurofighter Tycoon is about 18K. And American planes are ranging from 11-35K in maintenance

[@carlcollins3705]

You might want to actually listen to the vid and try to think a little. These subs have very limited capabilities. Then again, the Sweds don't need much.

[@anumeon]

And the americans where so impressed that they leased the submarine with crew for a whole year afterwards. So that they could analyze and develop tactics.. :) Proud to be a swede

[@cassu6]

I wouldn’t be proud that my government gave away military secrets to another country.

[@anumeon]

@@cassu6 They didn't. Tactics sure. Technology. No way

[@PJ-kj3ef]

US also leased the sweedish stealth frigate, as they couldn't get a reliable radarsignature on it. It did really resemble a much smaller fishingwessel, and would be devastating as an opponent without direct line of seight and visible confirmation.

[@Riddle6EOS]

Ye well but I doubt umerika would be rdy to conquer a land like Sweden. As far i know usa never fought a winter war in the Mountains. Swedens military is no joke on their home front.

[@Riddle6EOS]

@Rory Spoons lol its Funny you even mention it. Well ofc not the only rival to us, is russia. All im saying is. If America had to Conquer Sweden for some far future reason. I dont think it would be as easy as it might seem.

[@johanlundstrom1561]

And this is in blue waters. Now imagine it in the uneven Baltic, where we've spent the better part of a century mapping and practicing...

[@projekktmonarch5766]

who cares about submarins , take a 5k bomb put it 5-10 miles from the coast and sweden ,finnland and norway are gone

[@villager1831]

@@projekktmonarch5766 And the US too. Ever familiarised yourself with the concept of DEFCON?

[@owo1744]

@@villager1831 The US has defence systems capable of taking out whatever missile Russia has, and over 90% of their (Russias) nuclear bombs are dumb bombs dropped from planes.

[@villager1831]

@@owo1744 If you seriously believe that USA would survive a nuclear war situation, you either don’t know what it is or you’re delusional. USA’s best protection is the fact that they are also in possession of said weapons. ICBM’s have the highest chance of being stopped while they’re being launched, after that it’s dependent on a lot of factors, but USA would definitely not go unscathed in any form or shape.

[@larryyeadeke2953]

@@villager1831 If it weren't for their space ships.

[@coolspike7869]

USA:we have a entire carrier fleet Sweden’s sub: what carrier fleet I don’t see it?

[@faisalrafiq6183]

Swedish army : FLOOR GANG! Swedish navy : UNDER WATER GANG!

[@christiangustavsson7400]

Under water floor gang?? 😁

[@bremo2059]

*underwater ceiling gang*

[@te0nani]

Swedish Air Force: Ceiling Gang! Navi/Army: SMALL PEEPEE

[@prodnikolaii2841]

drain gang

[@kasra5061]

Peanut butter jelly time

[@mohammadfaiezi3339]

Another popular thought is: *is the gripen good? Ans: ask the typhoon pilot. They know about it

[@vidarrehnstrom5091]

And they will say it is good

[@johanlassen6448]

@@vidarrehnstrom5091 Its decent.

[@Idahoguy10157]

As a former submariner ( USS Flasher SSN613, 1977-81 ) I’m not surprised a modern Swedish submarine can ambush a carrier. We’d get very close to aircraft carriers. Non-nuclear submarines are more quiet than the boat I served on.

[@lostinspacestudio]

Why is that you would think that nuclear would be quieter?

[@shinjithenegotiator2795]

@@lostinspacestudio non-nuclear subs don't have a turbine in them but nuclear have an infinite range comparatively well only limited by human consumables

[@Idahoguy10157]

Christian Hogue ... Diesel Electric non-nuc boats are quieter when operating on batteries. Nuc boats as I was on had steam turbines and seawater pumps operating. Electric motor propulsion operating off off a battery are quiet in comparison. However nuc boats have much greater endurance over diesel-electric boats. I left submarines before the newer AIP boats were operating. I can’t speak on those.

[@SammywiseG]

@@lostinspacestudio Nuclear subs and ships have machinery that has to continuously run because of the reactor. Diesel subs can shut everything off to become noiseless. When I was a sonar operator in the Royal Canadian Navy (HMCS Regina) I always found it easier to find and track nuclear subs because of this.

[@Idahoguy10157]

@@SammywiseG ….The trade off is operational range. A nuclear boat can swiftly cross the Pacific from the west coast or rapidly transit towards from the east coast too the the Mediterranean or northern waters. I’m not saying this to disparage non-nuclear submarines.

[@Ex-it]

America has been training with these quiet subs for some years now. I'm sure it's helped improve technology and given all countries involved treasured experience.

[@kokonana4086]

When you realize that the IKEA approved submarines are sinking your entire fleet of aircraft carriers....

[@billcallahan9303]

The best training exercise for us was this one where that Swedish sub handed us our ass on a platter. We learned, or rather, I hope we learned.

[@bonedoc4556]

@Joakim von Anka Exactly. Always training and working your own weaknesses. Don't and you die.

[@PepRex]

Didn't learn from the Australian subs before hand obviously. What makes you think they'll learn now?

[@cgustafson240]

@@PepRex from some stuff I was recently reading, about the newest Australian Subs in the pipeline. It appears that some very political decisions were made over the military brass. In buying some extremely expensive French equipment with a lot of shortcomings and cost overruns. It sounded like you guys kinda got the shaft on that one. So I would like to hear your opinion on it?

[@PepRex]

@@cgustafson240 I don't know I'm not Australian, I just know they sunk a carrier in exercises.

[@JustifyJustin]

@Joakim von Anka Out of interest, has Russia ever occupied Sweden or made moves against her in recent times? From what I gather, Russia's military is geared for defence, similar to Sweden's. The US is one of the few nations with an occupation and projection military. Anyhow, emotions aside, I'd be more concerned about your government's open door policy to (radical) refugees leading to previously unheard of scenarios as in Malmo. You may well find your nation will be taken from within, not from a neighbouring nation...

[@drained1177]

Expensive bigmac boi ship with airplanes or A viking boi.

[@novitec729]

Everybody gangsta until we know Pewdiepie is driving that submarine

[@laruspener3409]

That's weak Like shit

[@MrLarsgren]

it that fool was commanding that sub entire world would be shelling it just to stop his crappy content,

[@TheDinosaur900]

Sabaton: *[nervous sweating]*

[@raycowplayzyt29]

*insert Carolus Rex*

[@heneraldodzz4978]

Eating meatballs patriotically

[@heckleypanes4988]

Dominum Maris Baltici

[@ryanhopf8324]

I was gonna post this

[@zoom5024]

@@heneraldodzz4978 In IKEA

[@rexwa633]

I can't wait for the day when they make USS Donald Trump

[@jl.7739]

ReXwa sir we detected a US supercarrier.... oh wait no, the radar sais it’s fake news. Never mind.

[@kevinmauri6365]

The USS Donald trump is just gunna be the largest McDonalds in the U.S.

[@kellerweskier7214]

Like Trump, itd try to call in bone spurs so it didnt have to fight. itd sit around the dock all day. judging others. and lie about what its done, even say its done things that other carriers have done. Then itll get slat armor skirts around its hull and say its keeping out all the foreign navys. Then itll try to commission the first spacecraft to launch off its deck, only to flop. like the Space Force. Itd go out and do alot of War Games instead of actually doing its fucking job to protect the citizens of the US. even when a hurricane runs through Florida and Porto Rico. Then will hold back all aid and medical supplies when those US citizens need them, saying that the surplus stockpile on the ship is only for the crewmen.

[@alwaysdisputin9930]

i think it will happen because: 3 of USA's aircraft carriers are named after Republicans who led USA into a recession = Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford, George H W Bush Trump is also a Republican who has led USA into a recession 1 carrier's named after John C. Stennis = a senator "a zealous supporter of racial segregation" Trump's similar in that he wants a wall + he told some Americans of colour to go back to the "rat-infested countries that they came from" 1 carrier's named after Carl Vinson = a congressman "influential in the 20th century expansion of the US Navy" Trump pledged that he would expand the navy too but " The Pentagon on Thursday slashed billions of dollars in funding for 17 Navy and Air Force aircraft and other military programs to free up money for the construction of President Donald Trump’s long-sought U.S.-Mexico border wall, angering not just Democrats but also GOP defense hawks." 5 are named after historic Presidents: associated with WW2 = Eisenhower, Truman on Mount Rushmore = Theodore Roosevelt, Lincoln, Washington

[@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial]

@Craig Hondo his name is carlos so ofc hes gonna be mad...

[@scheimong]

People often dismiss diesel-electric subs as some WW2 relic. That couldn't be farther from the truth. The reason nuclear subs are generally 'better' is mostly due to the fact that they tend to have newer components. A well designed diesel-electric sub with the newest technology is just as good as a nuclear-powered one. In fact, since a nuclear reactor cannot be easily shut down, modern diesel-electrics are actually significantly quieter than nuclear subs. So if you only want to use your subs defensively, diesel-electric is very much the better choice. Add in the fact that a nuclear sub still has to replenish supplies for the crew on a regular basis, which significantly negates its main strength of infinite range, it's very reasonable that everyone is investing in diesel-electrics again.

[@DurzoBlunts]

For a blue water centered navy (USN) nuclear is the way to go. Supplies can be replenished at sea, in a small port overseas or large port at home. The gotland excels at defending its nations home watets, what it was designed for. Nuclear subs are for long extended duration missions. They'll stay under the waves longer than a diesel can for air before needing supplies only. 111 days is a long time without needing to surface. Nuclear reactors dont need to be shut down for very quiet running... They shut down cooling pumps under no speed or very slow speed and let natural convection current of water cool the reactor. Thus allowing them to disappear into the noise of the ocean.

[@Rullstolsboken]

@@DurzoBlunts the Gotland class sub use liquid oxygen so it cam stay underwater for it's whole mission

[@bonedoc4556]

@@Rullstolsboken If thier whole mission is 2 weeks then yeah. It's right tool for the job in coastal defence.

[@shepardpolska]

@@DurzoBlunts I thought that even with no pumps working, nuclear reactors will vibrate unless shut down completely, and as such still be more noisy then a non-nuclear submarine can be. I heard it on Jive Turkey channel. I think he said he served on a nuclear sub, but I heard all that long ago so I don't want to say that as a fact.

[@TheAtomicSpoon]

@@shepardpolska Jive was a sonar man iirc.

[@infoscholar5221]

When we all realize that all ships are still steam ships.

[@iafozzac]

No, only nuclear ones. Most ships use diesel or diesel-electric

[@duffman5z]

German U 24 'sunk' USS Enterprise during JTFEX 01-2. HNLMS Walrus of the dutch navy also penetrated the carrier group around USS Theodore Roosevelt. Sadly for the US Navy, this is not a unique event.

[@pieterveenders9793]

Walrus has the biggest wargame kill score of any Navy ever, absolutely slaughtering the US Navy. Not just an US aircraft carrier like half a dozen countries have scored a kill against. No, the Walrus scored a kill against the Roosevelt, along with it's command ship, 7 destroyers and frigates, and to top it all of a US Navy nuclear attack submarine. All of that and managing to remain undetected and unharmed while getting away scott free. Brutal....

[@skyhiker9669]

Humility is a good thing.

[@RevenantCheetosx]

Murica used this to lure Russia to attack!

[@skyhiker9669]

RevenantCheetosx not familiar. Do explain plz. Very curious.

[@growingsubstostartacommuni3822]

How is this good

[@skyhiker9669]

I have A life “humility is the path to all success. Pride is the downfall of the successful.” -George Washington.

[@veryoriginalname3823]

@@growingsubstostartacommuni3822 If we just shook it off, and said it was a stroke of luck then we'd have our carriers get sunk in an actual war. No military is perfect so naturally someone bested us in something, but now we can adjust so Chinese, and Russian diesel subs won't be a threat. Not only that but now we've let the Swedes know they have very effective submarines, and should continue perfecting them.

[@JC130676]

It's hardly shocking. The Swedes did it but so did the French, Germans, Dutch and possibly even the Inuit. Despite all the technological advances of the last years, submarines are almost impossible to detect. That's why they say that there's only two types of ships: submarines and targets.

[@JC130676]

@@markj2093 Yes, pumps can be loud but not always. Even a passively cooled reactor can create noise from bubbles or flow through the coolant lines. I was mostly thinking of (diesel) electric subs. The latest generation can use hydrogen fuel cells to generate electricity and the electric motors are coupled directly to the prop shaft. So, no pumps or gearboxes at all. The easiest way to find those subs might be to look for the "black hole" in the sea where absolutely no noise is coming from...

[@coledavis5212]

JC130676 Hold up. The Inuit? Can you explain?

[@JC130676]

@@coledavis5212 No. It was a highly classified operation so if you want to know, you'll have to go there and ask them yourself. ;-)

[@lappietova6277]

Deepest secrecy by Jaime Karremann is a good book about 6 Dutch submarines operations. Gathering intelligence about Soviet Navy during the cold war..

[@30AndHatingIt]

"submarines are almost impossible to detect" Germany's Uboats were devastating convoys at the beginning of WW2, but by the end were routinely detected and sunk at alarming rates.

[@mdsfhs]

“Stirling engine” is just a fancy way to say Sven was sitting in the back of the submarine with a pedal and some Norrlands Guld

[@daffadappoy2057]

"I'm about to end this man's whole carrier"

[@midget_spinner8449]

How original

[@razor1uk610]

..I read what'yer did thar... ;) :P

[@DarkSpice84]

I thought my playback speed was messed up at first..

[@djl8841]

Put a hole new meaning on "swedish fish". 🤣

[@StarCraftBoy100]

this goes to tells that there are only two types of ships in the ocean, Subs and targets.

[@lex1945]

Zr Ms Walrus, a submarine of the Dutch navy did something similar back in 1999. It 'sunk' Aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt and 8 escort ships during exercise JTFEX 99-1

[@Jesse-qq2uh]

Alex Postma correct.

[@MrKillroy26]

Well done Sweden. There always room for improvement.

[@stewartpoulnott2367]

Did this man seriously just say “unfortunately didn’t result in any financial or human life” 😬

[@ottopantzar4533]

Fortunately

[@spyweb314]

And fortunately

[@razor1uk610]

...he did, but put it in a respective context, ..it seems the USN outwardly/publicly learned little since it didn't cost lives or money that would force a more visible change or adoptment of certain technicalities. ..Likely the US has some semi-burried greyer than black program spawned from this. That is not saying it should have or didn't. The sub was loaned with an additional 12 month extension, thats going to have cost something somehow, somewhere from the US to Sweden, and or with a reduction or write off of WW2 or Coldwar debt, or someother exigence of classified deal to do so.

[@S-Asker]

No worries, it only would have been Americans, no losses either way.

[@Johnny-sj9sj]

Adrian Klein - Thank you Xbox warrior!

[@kentwilliams4152]

The Swedish sub as most likely a diesel electric submarine that can indeed be very stealthy. I was stationed aboard the USS HADDO SSN604 and the only time we were ever detected when stalking a CVN was when we were spotted by a helicopter due to the extremely clear water in the Caribbean. Exercises such as the one high lighted in this video are extremely valuable in the development of both technology and ASW tactics. One possible correction to the video is that surface craft use ACTIVE sonar, that is the rely on the sonar “returns” or pings to echo locate an intruding submarine. The efficiency of active sonar is somewhat mitigated by “Own Ship’s Noise” which is proportional to the speed of that ship. However, my information is somewhat dated and I suspect that sonar technology has changed in the intervening years.

[@spookerredmenace3950]

this is why you never trust the Sweds :P they are silent and deadly :P love this channel!

[@jonjames4281]

Yeah, those damn neutrals, you can't tell which side they're on...

[@spookerredmenace3950]

@@jonjames4281 hahaha chaotic neutral :P

[@erikmajestic8044]

many of my Swedish friends from the internet told me the women over there are hoes, so I want me a Swedish hoe

[@midgetman4206]

@@jonjames4281 there's always that "what if", what if they are secretly not a neutral

[@scepticalwalker3984]

Sweden hasn’t been neutral in 25-30 years. It is still non-aligned but knows/shows clearly who’s a friend and who’s not. Despite its official neutrality during the Cold War, Sweden and the US have worked very, very closely militarily since the end of WW2

[@soobaroo8253]

The crew must've felt so tense as it snuck through and then super pimps after doing what they just did

[@JohnSmith-ts8xp]

Australian, British and French submarines have also all successfully “sunk” US aircraft carriers during war games.

[@bsc4344]

John Smith oh yeah? Well the Canadian submarines do even better, they sink themselves before they get very far outta port! Thats a libtard govt "derelict Brit sub purchase" outcome for ya. But that gives us a 100% success rating....

[@JohnSmith-ts8xp]

@@bsc4344 I mean that was because the Canadians crewing the vessel back to Canada left both the bridge chamber hatches open and flooded the sub with over 2,000 litres of sea water, which subsequently started a fire. The sub was also running on the surface in seas rough enough to damage the Irish Destroyer responding to its mayday call.

[@JohnSmith-ts8xp]

@Till This Day They actually often come out and describe the findings of these sorts of games. In 2012 an Astute under trial went head to head against the USS New Mexico during the Fellowship exercise, her commanding officer described the crew of the New Mexico as being "taken aback, blown away with what they were seeing" by Astute's capabilities. "Our sonar is fantastic and I have never before experienced holding a submarine at the range we were holding USS New Mexico."

[@BicMac18]

The german u24 did it to

[@bbkknn333]

Friendly fire! friendly fire! 😂

[@robcemento9605]

yo

[@ericcornish1983]

Hehehe lol serves the US right, for thinking they're so high and mighty and have the best of the best, well guess what don't mess with Sweden!

[@peterson7082]

I don't think you understand the purpose of that exercise.

[@laurencehirst7814]

This has been repeated a few times by Australian subs! At low speed, 4-6 even up to 8-10 knots they make no noise at all! Suggest you youtube HMS Rankin to see how, using really dirty, low down, sneaky tricks, this is done!

[@zlaughter4035]

”Russia, America’s eternal advercery has ordered two diesel electric attack submarines, scheduled for completion by 2022” 😳😬

[@frankhoy6666]

Some other folks have commented on wargames vs real life, so that's a dead horse. But here's another: The white "low-side" AAR will reflect what the US Navy wants to release. In this case, a sub penetrated our picket and sank our carrier. This can be done as impetus to tighten up SOPs TTPs etc. Or nefariously, try and convince Congress that more money is needed to secure the fleet. The black "high-side" AAR reflects a total different result and data set. You (KZbinrs and this Channel) will never know if the task force spotted it or not. The absolute margins of capabilities are closely held state secrets. Similar to the actual top speed of the SR-71 which is still classified decades after its decommissioning. So take whatever you read about these claims with a grain of salt. It is in no one's best interest, if they work for the US Navy, DOD, or US R&D to EVER tell you what they can and can't detect, and what they can and can't do.

[@saikaveti]

Exactly what I was thinking ... We don't know many things here to make a conclusion

[@samini123]

As a son of a man who have been on submarines for years as a profession in Sweden.. Yeah they don't get spotted. Check the games with the Russians as well for answers.

[@natskivna]

Imagine how destabilizing this is if true. Yeah, your 13 billion dollar floating airfield is obsolete..... Something tells me that if true, then new anti sub tactics have been figured out by now. Or maybe it was all one big false flag in an attempt to convince our adversary's to pursue this sub's technology to their detriment. Who knows?

[@Comment957]

Frank Hoy, i'm with you on this. If the U.S. Navy is leaking the tactical capabilities and weaknesses of its primary platform for projecting power, it has much bigger issues than losing a war game with Sweden. Your suggestion regarding budgetary increases is very plausible, but I also see a possibility that a video like this is part of a global disinformation campaign, a "false flag" sort of thing.

[@pieterveenders9793]

@@natskivna Oh it is true, in the open seas and oceans diesel-electric subs are fairly useless against even conventional powered aircraft carriers, let alone nuclear ones. However in the coastal areas for which they were meant, diesel electrics pretty much rule supreme, and especially those build by Japan, Sweden, Denmark, the Netherlands and Germany. At least half a dozen navies have scored hits during wargames against the US navy, including their carriers, that's nothing new. What a lot of people seem to forget is that it isn't just the qualities of the subs which make them so stealthy and efficient, but that the superior tactics used by their captains is what really turns them into such incredibly powerfull naval weapons.

[@thorshammer7883]

Can you do a video on Operation Highjump in 1946 and the USS Liberty incident of 1967?

[@TheScienceguy77]

He should definitely cover the USS Liberty incident.

[@KMcNally117]

There's a highly controversial subject. Tread lightly

[@RJM1011]

@@KMcNally117 LOL !

[@monkeyton5]

Based

[@ktap11thregion]

Ah yes the Swedes and their invention innovation. Small doesn't mean weak and easy target. Who says war is a fair game.

[@NCFREEMAN]

The classic biblical tail of David vs Goliath. Well done Sweden 🇸🇪. God bless America 🇺🇸 and Long Live The Republic!

[@tntfreddan3138]

"super stealth" = A normal, less complicated, diesel engine submarine built in the 90s.

[@Hey_MikeZeroEcho22P]

I was in US Navy, I actually exercised with this boat.....Very Tough, Very Maneuverable, GOAT boat, Gotland!!

[@stefanhaglund1665]

More like Goth boat.

[@Ackalan]

@@stefanhaglund1665 No no, Gutarna (people from Gotland) ain´t Götar (Goths, who lives in Östra and Västra Götaland). The pun is that Gotlands (the island the sub is named after) is that the goat is the island's coat of arms.

[@cobbomusic]

My country finally did something cool

[@bikerd8497]

Abba

[@tommytesticles8105]

Idk rally is cool

[@melle2357]

Vad menar du

[@melle2357]

Kolla Sverige under kalla kriget

[@bryankeithguillory1355]

I love Volvos! I have owned 2 of them. Too bad they stopped making the inline T6 engine my S60 has. Volvo also makes the best seats in the industry. Great cars, Erik, be very proud!

[@ddddjnntnfn6910]

Sweden: decides to sink a aircraft carrier America: how do you like the sound of a nuclear siren

[@illuminatiaqi6130]

@Steve Smith lol didnt you know this is fake

[@DambergStudios]

@@illuminatiaqi6130 Whats fake?

[@nospoilers7144]

@@illuminatiaqi6130 no it was not

[@user-dz2jv4in5z]

Is this some kind of weird joke or are you serious?

[@Alex-ft9jy]

@Steve Smith 1) the guy is ironic 2) It was a simulation...the Uss Ronald Reagan is still in active service today and is one of the biggest aircraft carriers on earth

[@poxyyclaps9338]

my brother showed me this video without watching the whole thing and thought that Sweden and the US were actually at war and I've already seen this video and told him ww3 has started, that was 2 hours ago and he's still looking for information bout it, he's also 12

[@none941]

I served in the U.S. Navy as a Sonarman 3rd class on the U.S.S. Greenling, SSN-614. She was a formidable ship, but the Gotland class could have killed her without beaking a sweat as she is that quiet. Trust me. You don't want to go up against one of these Swedish boats.

[@CastleAirsoft]

10:45 Area 51 Lizard Man confirmed.

[@IRiFTzHD]

HAAHAHAH nearly choked on my tea

[@Chuck_Hooks]

Old news

[@ryanb2764]

Mike Pence doesn't count

[@lonewolffullmoon]

🤣🤣😎✌️

[@raymondlewis1149]

Ryan B d

[@Matze239]

Seems like the us carrier strike groups aren't as invincible as they think lmao. A german submarine managed to get a torpedo on CVN-65 and made a nice picture during JTFEX 01-2. The Americans were shocked when the sub emerged right next to them. The American admiral is said to have been absolutely furious lmao Edit: They did the same thing in 2007 again Edit 2: Another class 206 submarine circled an american Los Angeles class hunter submarine several times at a short distance without them noticing.

[@armageddonarmada6869]

When a silent hunter veteran player gets his hands on Swedish submarine

[@Leonidae]

*Cold waters

[@mmabri]

This is why war games are held. To discover weaknesses and learn from them.

[@rodneypayne4827]

Surprising?No! During war games an Australian Oberon class sub penetrated a carrier battle group,(simulated) sunk the Carrier,resupply ship, 3 destroyers. The only reason that the US Navy knew that losses had been taken was that after every shot a flare had to be launched by the sub. This was back in the early 90s.

[@aerodynamicist4]

US Navy: Come at me bro Swedish Navy: *Activates ghost organization*

[@insertnamehere8]

HAHAHAHAHA

[@petter5721]

And the a Visby Corvette disappears into ghost mode as well 😀

[@Happy-nc9zf]

U play gta online ryt😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@larslansink5759]

OMG I Love Sweden 😂🇸🇪

[@johnraina4828]

*Swedistan

[@charlienahls8464]

@The Antarctic Pingvin sweden is the middle east

[@fishmas]

@@charlienahls8464 sweden is in the north not Middle east

[@charlienahls8464]

@@fishmas that wasnt my point, i meant that sweden is not sweden anymore. There is too many people from the middle east who just destroys sweden right now. Sweden is the new middle east.

[@adam632]

@@charlienahls8464 exakt.

[@dictatoribenevolo8394]

12 seconds after pubblish lol. i have nothing better to do i guess

[@Dorkwing]

"*WE*" have nothing better to do

[@MrTryAnotherOne]

The german navy managed to do that in 2001 in an exercise in the Carribean. They penetrated the surrounding defensive screen and surfaced next to carrier.

[@theflanman1986]

I bet some admirals were really fucking pissed haha. Someone probably lost their career over that embarrassment.

[@zurus172]

Where can i find info on this? Don't see anything on google.

[@MrTryAnotherOne]

@@zurus172 Use google translate www.abendblatt.de/politik/ausland/article107314674/Das-Zielfoto-das-einen-US-Admiral-wuetend-machte.html

[@morganmadison366]

We must be careful of those Vikings.

[@softballm1991]

Thank you Sweden, and I meant it. Showing your ally a major flaw in their detection system.

[@henrilopes7337]

Ah Swedes!!! Great fighter planes, great subs and OPETH!!! Thank you Sweden

[@macjonte]

In two years the next generation of this Swedish submarine is delivered to Swedish deference. The Saab A26 is something extra. Very cheap for a sub, much longer distance and even more quiet. Connected with the fighter jets and surveillance system also made by the same company. US military is one of the largest customers, and only country in war that Sweden sells this technology to.

[@jimjackle6282]

John - It's as if Sweden is selling them to Sweden, because in the 1800's, 1/2 of the population of Sweden came to the US. That's when my Swedish ancestors immigrated here. Times were hard in Sweden and rich oligarchs owned most of the land, and most people were like slaves to them. At that time, the US government wanted to settle the midwestern US land, so they gave the railroad millions of acres to develop the land. The railroads went to Sweden and offered people land that the railroad financed with no money down. The poor people in Sweden moved to the US and had large farms in the midwest.

[@macjonte]

Jim Jackle Yes, very fascinating. I’ve been to Ellie’s island where all the Swedes (and all other Europeans) disembarked. Many heartbreaking stories on the walls. There are movies and books about the families that made the journey over the sea, what they left behind and what they got when arrived. Can’t imagine it’s so much easier today, just jump in an airplane and fly back a few days later. The first 50 years of 1900 was really a raise in standard for Sweden, coming from a poor country with not much food, to one of the highest standard in the world. Of course much thanks to the politicians that managed to stay “neutral” during both world wars. But as late as 1970 there were still used outhouses in central Stockholm capital and houses without running water. A weird thought. An apartment in the same house today costs 20 years of salary.

[@jimjackle6282]

John Eriksson - Thank you for the information. Like the old saying goes, we learn something new everyday.

[@zoom5024]

And unlike the Gotland who can only be underwater for about 7 days like most diesel-electric subs of it's time, The A26 will be able to be underwater for 18 days. And there is an option to add a tomahawk module.

[@macjonte]

Mr. Hemlig Extra tomahawk module, is that another 18 days submerged?

[@briangarrison1323]

Sometimes the simplest shit is the deadliest.

[@BusterBuizel]

Last time I saw a submarine launched cliff hanger was at the end of Ace Combat 5

[@nuclearTANK]

You obviously haven't got the DLC for the Ace combat with the submarine Alicorn

[@BusterBuizel]

@@nuclearTANK I have, but there was no cliffhanger since I sunk it. Besides Alicorn never sunk a carrier, just yeeted a nuclear shell at Hoffnug

[@nuclearTANK]

@@BusterBuizel exactly it yeeted a nuke

[@BusterBuizel]

@@nuclearTANK But, it's not a cliffhanger since the story got wrapped up.

[@thomasmarren2354]

You mean Scinfaxi aircraft carrier sub?