I think I prefer the Bleeding thing as opposed to the synthetic crystals. It makes it more of a right of passage for a sith, much like how finding a crystal and constructing a lightsaber is a right of passage for a jedi.
@leecason45827 жыл бұрын
323starlight except Darth mauls crystals were forged by hand and force over 4 days in a furnace and he endured the process. That's cooler to me
@exilestudios95467 жыл бұрын
+Lee Cason that sounds like a bad fan fiction
@SpikeTheWolf5 жыл бұрын
So they use synthetic crystal whats about the Jedi?
@redandbluesteelstudiosoffi57974 жыл бұрын
@@SpikeTheWolf Jedi imbue their force energy into the crystal giving it, it's coloration
@brendanobrien81987 жыл бұрын
I love this story. Stupendouswave did a great job telling this too. I would love to see this animated.
@joshshiemke41537 жыл бұрын
I like the new origin. It gives meaning to the saber and shows how truly powerful and ruthless Vader and the sith can be to be able to kill a Jedi and corrupt a kyber crystal.
@trebot92922667 жыл бұрын
"What happens if there are no more Jedi to be found? Do new sith just not a get a light saber?" this is a question some else asked, but i am now asking you.
@joshshiemke41537 жыл бұрын
GoAwayGoogle you know, that is a good question and I’m not entirely sure. But the sith have always been resourceful so I’m sure they’d find a way. Perhaps they take them from Jedi that have been already killed or they forge their new sabers as the Jedi do.
@chancekarr87514 жыл бұрын
@@joshshiemke4153 ik you might not read this since its 2 years ago but i think if there was no jedi there will be no sith since they really work together as good and evil no good means just evil but since the sith need the jedi for somethings then they will go away but in future generations the force would come back splitting people as good and bad again
@sharilshahed61067 жыл бұрын
Alex and Benny cooperating? This day just got better.
@layl0w_rv7 жыл бұрын
Sharil Shahed ikr
@LJOlhms7 жыл бұрын
I actually like both. Making a saber is cool, forcing a crystal to bleed is vicious! It gives the sith a choice... make one or break take and corrupt one.
@lukeskywalkerthe2nd7737 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you did a colab with Explained Comicstorian this video was so awesome!!!!! :)
@fatleg10007 жыл бұрын
The Kylo Ren response to "you are a monster" takes on a whole new level. His response is the same as Vader's, "Yes I am".
@omega50407 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man, I see Darth Vader and a click
@godofhyperdeath37667 жыл бұрын
omega5040 me to.
@theDeVastator5557 жыл бұрын
And I am a simple dogo, I see Darth Vader and I place my paw on it a couple times until it clicks
@CT-nb5lm6 жыл бұрын
I remember when I used to be like that..before the Disney/JJ/Kathleen hatred
@chrisatherton78407 жыл бұрын
The force is strong with this one.
@tdude40207 жыл бұрын
I like the new origin of the sith lightsabers makes them more badass.
@rendarspire7 жыл бұрын
Love your Star Wars videos! It was so cool that you teamed up with StarWarsExplained.
@cwxgames4687 жыл бұрын
I think it should be a mix or red crystals being very rear so they made synthetic ones at the height of the Sith. But after the Jedi "wiped them out" and took control of how the crystals are mined/made the Sith resorted to the bleeding process.
@fwjessicaandrews63377 жыл бұрын
Wow vader without saber is like magneto
@dakotahensley41947 жыл бұрын
i like what the new story has done with the crystals because it makes them far more significant. they arent just rocks but actual living being with a connection to the force.
@TheJazzyOtaku7 жыл бұрын
The bleeding process sounds more like what a Sith would do. They prove themselves worthy to the dark side and in doing so show that they are stronger than the Jedi.
@Raximus30007 жыл бұрын
TEAMBLUESPARTAN True but if there are no Jedi left how can a sith make one??
@mariquisflora35517 жыл бұрын
Raximus3000 Only two Sith exist and because they follow the rules of two no other Sith have to exist
@Mariusweeddeath7 жыл бұрын
+Mariquis Flora I know that this is knew Lore but weren't there more Sith before this? Before Palpatine? Does the new canon not have stories about before the prequel trilogy or is Disney only covering where the movies work in?
@mariquisflora35517 жыл бұрын
Mariusweeddeath Yes but the old republic war happening so jedi died all the time and after that the war between jedi and Sith continues after the rule of two. Bleeding still makes sense. Even post original trilogy a new jedi order was formed in legends and Canon. Sith have always had jedi to steal crystals from. Even after the purge only palpatine and Vader exist and palpatine already had one. So Vader just needed one jedi
@ethanlewis57507 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of the "bleeding" it is more ceremonious and in a way mocks all the ceremony that the jedi have in their training
@tae16947 жыл бұрын
The art is amazing!!
@TheBogdanTV7 жыл бұрын
i like the new origin more, it gives them more meaning
@crackills17 жыл бұрын
I like the new story how they have to steal one rather than create a synthetic version.
@octoberrain35137 жыл бұрын
Thank you love your star wars videos
@FrostiOrca7 жыл бұрын
I like the idea that synthetic crystals were the ones used during the old republic while later they learned that bleeding would make them "stronger" so they later went to that
@cyrus6497 жыл бұрын
The original version... the bleeding is cool but at some point could be harder to find and bleed them... while the original, anybody could make them
@notsmrt45217 жыл бұрын
cyrus649 I would assume the Sith would simply excavate a normal crystal if finding a jedi saber is impossible.
@blazesaber59917 жыл бұрын
The comic specifically says it has to be a jedi crystal so they can turn it. If they could just grab any crystal there wouldn’t really be a purpose for the new method besides being edgy.
@paperbackwriter11117 жыл бұрын
The bleeding process is cooler because it reinforces how Sith need to,commit to the dark side and to control the force, but the old one had a better thematic connection with the whole "nature vs tech"theme of the series. Hard to say.
@aguyontheinternet90957 жыл бұрын
The sith had to commit plenty to the dark side because ya know "non-commital" sith were at best ignored (something that usually pisses off a sith who's not actively trying to hide), at worst promptly murdered by the nearest jedi at the first sign of justification.
@xindeal9827 жыл бұрын
personally i prefer the legends origin. it was simple, but it did its job. the new origin just seems impractical. What we need for this new origin is a source (movie, book, etc.) to set up why it is like this in a more proper way. What sith started this, why didn't they just use synthetic crystals, and in the case of special lightsaber(s) how was that handled. Darth Maul and Count Dooku have very unique lightsabers, identical twin curved hilt blades in Dooku's case. How were those cases handled, they obviously didn't just steal another jedi's lightsaber as they needed 2 crystals a piece. Tl;DR the new origin impractical and produces too many oddities, if not holes, in canon star wars lore. The Legends origin, although simple, does the job with out producing any oddities or holes.
@TheTsugnawmi20107 жыл бұрын
I can see why the origin was changed. Vader just... building a new one is mundane and boring. The idea of Sith having to hunt down and pop their "Dead Jedi" cherry is much more interesting. It also means that for every armed Sith we see, that means there's definitely one less Jedi in the galaxy which calls the balance of the Force into question
@aguyontheinternet90957 жыл бұрын
Honestly it just seems like it's for the sake of edge. With the original universe sith used artificial crystals simply they because they made for more intense lightsaber beams than the usual jedi fare. Saying "oh he has to pour his hate, his ANGER into a jedi's crystal" ignores WHY would he have to take said crystal from a jedi? Both jedi and and sith sync their "force" with their crystal, this new origin is just for the sake of portraying the antagonists pissing on graves really >_>.
@aguyontheinternet90957 жыл бұрын
Survival of the fittest, dominance in both might and cunning, might makes right, I'd say I understand the sith well enough.
@Mariusweeddeath7 жыл бұрын
The idea is cooler sure but the practicality of doing this is not. Does that mean every time I break a lightsaber as a Sith, I have to hunt down another Jedi, kill him and forcefully turn his crystal? It probably won't happen often but I don't doubt its happens. I also have to get pretty lucky and find a Jedi who isn't attached by the hip to his partner and then proceed to kill him without a lightsaber. Kill the guy with a glowing energy sword that slices through metal like a hot knife through butter with my bare hands and the force (which he can use just as well). See the problem.
@TheTsugnawmi20107 жыл бұрын
Sith walk around with their Masters so the numbers are even. Plus, Star Wars is all about balance with the Force so I imagine the number of Sith and Jedi (and consequently the amount of Light and Dark side) balances out despite this system. For example, one way might be that very few Jedi a) fall to the Dark Side in the first place, b) succeed in killing a Jedi or c) fully go through with corrupting the crystal (Vader was pushed back)
@Mariusweeddeath7 жыл бұрын
Except three words; Rule of Two. I don't know if they still keep this rule in the new EU but the rule is essentially; there is only ever One Master and One Student. Never shall there be more than that. When the Student Surpasses the Master, he will take the Masters place and continue the Line. We can assume that they are still holding it to some degree in the comics because we still only every see Darth and Palp but I don't know if they kept it. Also, there was no 'balance' between the literal forces (as in ground troops) the Light and the DarkSide in this era of Star Wars. Its the reason why the Jedi are so skeptical of the Sith's return in the prequels, because they were (as they believed) wiped out.
@fabioquigua29237 жыл бұрын
Can u do Darth maul Legacy origin
@coreym27587 жыл бұрын
Can this be the plot for eventual the Darth Vader movie?
@rancorpit50097 жыл бұрын
please do star wars Sunday
@kevgue0017 жыл бұрын
Do more videos about this comic line. It’s very interesting and I’ve read some but I haven’t been keeping up.
@chriscunningham64017 жыл бұрын
9:33 Holy... Jedi guy has two right hands lol
@night-x67937 жыл бұрын
The original red crystal story is more understandable because it would be easy to change the color if the crystals are more artificial as well change the crystal power output.
@flammingmess8747 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas comicstorian
@Ralloris7 жыл бұрын
Personally, I really like the new kyber crystal lore. It makes a lot more sense to me that the colour is caused by the user than their "role" in the Jedi Order or even making synthetic ones that somehow match perfectly with organic kyber crystals save for their connection to the dark side.
@doinstuffwithjames35467 жыл бұрын
So then what’s the cannon origin for darth mauls lightsaber I know origanally he meditates for over a month to create them but I can’t find a new canon explanation for it
@notsmrt45217 жыл бұрын
Do'in Stuff With James I would assume maul had his lightsaber constructed like any other jedi saber do to the fact that it would be extremely impractical to kill a jedi while he is supposed to be in hiding.
@sharilshahed61067 жыл бұрын
The process is for Sith lords, Maul was only led to believe he was one. But he was only a Sith assassin.
@doinstuffwithjames35467 жыл бұрын
Mauls crystals were synthetic and now that isn’t cannon anymore now that the crystals have “feelings”
@boblovepotato11387 жыл бұрын
You should make a video explaining why beast has so many mutations and the other X-men only have one!
@trebot92922667 жыл бұрын
Beast tried to cure his mutation and it caused him to mutate more. Beast has a natural mutation and an unnatural mutation. Emma Frost has a secondary mutation, she would be the better person to use as an example for your question.
@boblovepotato11387 жыл бұрын
GoAwayGoogle wow thanks for telling me! I wouldn’t want to try to cure it he looks like a really cool flesh colored hulk. Thanks for sharing the info!
@trebot92922667 жыл бұрын
Originally he was not blue and furry. I think he just had big feet, though he could move kind of like he does now.
@boblovepotato11387 жыл бұрын
GoAwayGoogle so pretty much he made himself even more beast instead of back to human?
@DesertRock_Gaming7 жыл бұрын
The bleed way sounds like the sith way then making a crystal.
@callumleask43677 жыл бұрын
Michael Boone I agree
@karlfrank43465 жыл бұрын
I'm fan of both because in legends Vaders lightsaber is skimmed over but the saber origins in legends is actually really cool.
@tuviejalaloca7 жыл бұрын
After watching *THE LAST JEDI* ...Im not really in the mood for more star wars, I feel sad, really *sad*
@exilestudios95467 жыл бұрын
let me guess you had your widdle fweeing hurt that all your ridiculous fan theories meant nothing well to bad snow flake this was the best star wars movie since empire
@zandyzain62417 жыл бұрын
7:40 this Jedi hair style seems similar with Rey's in The Last Jedi.
@luisrpachecojr7 жыл бұрын
I would have told him his ship was illegally parked and he has to pay 20,000 credits to get his vehicle back and to pay for damages. We accept visa and master card.
@dannysvetlick62917 жыл бұрын
See THIS is the kind of young Darth Vader that I wanted to see. not pod racing, not "I hate sand", this.
@jordensantiago56015 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making these, you're the man!!
@skywolfbat7 жыл бұрын
While bleeding the crystal is more badass, yes, I prefer the idea of synthetic crystals. It just makes things easier if you ask me. Plus, in my opinion, it gives the idea that you can force a color on the crystal.
@sv320997 жыл бұрын
I think the new one is a little better since closer to a coming of age thing where once the sith apprentice is ready to be taught in the powers of the dark side they must first destroy a light side showing that the darkness will always overcome the jedi
@trebot92922667 жыл бұрын
ehh, just seems like an easy way for a sith to get caught. Sith were always about betrayal and sneaking around. Killing a jedi just to prove one self seems way too out of place for such a secretive group.
@sv320997 жыл бұрын
GoAwayGoogle true that is a flaw of it but I just think its cool
@trebot92922667 жыл бұрын
It makes sense if it were some sort of personal ritual for a specific dark jedi. Darth Maul for example would be a fitting character for this sort of special Light Saber.
@BrazenSal7 жыл бұрын
I like synthetic crystals
@oakskid017 жыл бұрын
I prefer the original origin, because it allows sith to operate in a gray area rather than a solid black.
@trebot92922667 жыл бұрын
except for the parts where the sith are a solid black. They might not be out to destroy the force, but that is only because they are force users,
@DaveMCGaming7 жыл бұрын
Please tell me I'm not only one who heard maybe about 1:00 in he said banner instead of vader
@andresjuancho50627 жыл бұрын
Yup fat deadpool said banner
@MrKeepit20007 жыл бұрын
beautiful
@Mtrix33457 жыл бұрын
Its so cool. I want more Star Wars especially around Christmas :3
@darrenfromwales79787 жыл бұрын
So I assume maul had to kill a jedi too. Why did they not know of him. I know retcon.
@exilestudios95467 жыл бұрын
oh no he had is crystals given to him but sideous but out of sheer pride he hunted down and killed a padawan that was kidnapped by slavers and no one was the wiser because he killed the slavers too
@gxxlee1237 жыл бұрын
In some cases yes a forged cyztal works but i like the darker kill a jedi one better because they are always talking about the balance of the force which with jedi dieing it unbalances the force.
@triforceofcourage1007 жыл бұрын
Yeah artificial crystals vs the idea that they have to be taken and force-fully corrupting it while killing the previous wielder in essence enslaving and constantly harming the crystals yeah that's far better
@PlusUltraMan7 жыл бұрын
I love the new one to be fair I think it serves to further pronounce the training of a Sith.
@federicoascencio95607 жыл бұрын
4:23 Stormtroopers? There were bloody Clone Troopers
@TevyaSmolka7 жыл бұрын
I personally thought this origin story was unnecessary but I gotta admit this story was really fun and interesting
@b3rz3rk3r96 жыл бұрын
I think the original line best suits their care for killing, as it revokes any spiritual influence. Though, I like the new one more, since it shows their spiritual corruption.
@MiketehTV7 жыл бұрын
I honestly like the new cannon on Kyber crystals, with the bleeding process, but they didn't discuss that the bleeding process can be reversed and produces a white lightsaber. Ahsoka Tano dual wielded white lightsabers that she purified.
@MOWBOZIA6665 жыл бұрын
*New way is better. Provides more interesting story material*
@SteeIdancer7 жыл бұрын
STAR WARS EXPLAINED CROSSING OVER WITH COMICSTORIAN? MY LIFE IS COMPLETTEEEEE
@TheLightSideReactions6 жыл бұрын
I like your videos. If you can, please continue to do a video for each Star Wars TPB that is released.
@aidanlavin82117 жыл бұрын
Hey comicstorian, will you do the legends Star Wars comics series?
@ginew077 жыл бұрын
I hope they keep Leia’s unforgiving attitude towards a “redeemed” Anakin, “Just because you had a few moments of clarity doesn’t excuse a lifetime of terror, and destruction, and death.
@mongolchiuud89317 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you can smoke kyber crystals.
@thirdplanet44717 жыл бұрын
How many jedi died so a sith could get a red lightsaber? And what happens if the bleeding process fails?
@mr.palpatine52487 жыл бұрын
Not enough
@sharilshahed61067 жыл бұрын
#savethejedi
@lossypooh7 жыл бұрын
#jedilivesmatter
@itz_polmathecreature95297 жыл бұрын
Reverse Dipper Pines it will turn purple
@nieznajomy43987 жыл бұрын
you can see in vision of alternative version what can happen. So basically Sith become a good guy. :)
@callumleask43677 жыл бұрын
The light of a Saber needs to be in pain. Like life force in change to death force.
@johnnyworks287 жыл бұрын
I like the new story on how it's made
@splatoonistproductions53457 жыл бұрын
I love the new one, it makes more sense
@KookieXDough7 жыл бұрын
starwars Sunday!
@TevyaSmolka7 жыл бұрын
I am more of a fan of the original origin story for the Sith lightsaber
@KRGHST7 жыл бұрын
Where is the ghost rider storylines
@mikegrady56697 жыл бұрын
Great story
@craigharvey-gurr3377 жыл бұрын
I like this bleeding effect better.
@betterlatethannever45297 жыл бұрын
The legends way made more sense
@AyELTee887 жыл бұрын
3:22 was that a Wilhelm scream I heard?
@TheChubbyGeneralist7 жыл бұрын
I actually got a starwars ad at the start of the video😂
@danielbollergrimm70597 жыл бұрын
good, a RetCon for Ep. III final
@KeijiMaeda866 жыл бұрын
ahhhhh Benny always washes over details and I can't help but feel some crucial details were ignored. Because technically from what was said in the video, Vader just needs to "bleed" his own personal pain into the crystal. So he could technically acquire a normal crystal, make his own lightsaber, and bleed his pain into the crystal to make it red. In this way the lightsaber isn't "given" but it is not "taken" either. And the whole pain and bleeding theme is still there. I'm guessing that crystals for lightsabers are rare and with the destruction of the jedi order, crystal became hard to find as well. So it was easier to find and kill a remaining Jedi than it was to go excavating for a crystal.
@mattterrell43047 жыл бұрын
The new process is more interesting, but the old one makes more sense
@MrCaptnrex7 жыл бұрын
to me its not that sith have to take a crystal and can't just use any crystal, its just more of a ceremony or what not to affirm their following the dark side, but I can still see them using artificial crystals cause eventually someone going to the dark side isn't going to know of the old traditions
@aaronwilder27757 жыл бұрын
I like the new origin of Vader's saber more
@nataliekennedy46467 жыл бұрын
hey benny i have been watching your videos for some time know and i was wondering if you could cover the cancer verse thanks benny
@themilkman9107 жыл бұрын
If someone spoils the new starwars, report them as spam.
@starkillerren4427 жыл бұрын
jon peiter why can tho
@dustincote39577 жыл бұрын
jon peiter Chewbacca gets eaten
@G33st-gh0st7 жыл бұрын
I think the new way is better
@notrelikk4 жыл бұрын
You should continue this story
@rossobrien3317 жыл бұрын
Yah star wars time you the best comicstorian
@hagenvolta8517 жыл бұрын
Good job, Greetings from Mexico city.
@cdnjustin72277 жыл бұрын
please do more star wars
@trevortwigg13847 жыл бұрын
The bleeding process is perfectly brutal.
@cmccuehwt2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! Only question is are these troopers or clones?
@futuremlbplayer107 жыл бұрын
Legends makes more sense. I mean, your telling me that every sith had to kill a jedi to get a crystal, that makes no sense for any of the movies.
@TrajGreekFire7 жыл бұрын
Dooku had his own lightsaber and probably he collected some of them which he later gave to Ventress and Savage. Ben Solo killed like half of his fellow students, but as for Maul and Sidious - well we should assume that they had ,,pure" or ,,used" kyber crystals from the black market. Rebels Maul - he probably killed an inquisitor and inquisitors were former padawans and low level jedi knights.
@mini22397 жыл бұрын
Palpatine and Maul probably killed some random jedi master and padawan somewhere and framed it as an accident.
@TrajGreekFire7 жыл бұрын
Palpatine was rich, so black market
@mini22397 жыл бұрын
It would probably be seen as either cheating, or weak for the sith to just buy a kyber crystal. I doubt sidious would do that. It wouldn't be hard, find some jedi in the outrim and frame some pirates. There are more jedi than sith after all
@TrajGreekFire7 жыл бұрын
Maul's first Jedi kill happened when he already had his saberstaff. Since he was such a hateful, aggressive beast we can assume Palp didn't wanted him to run around killing Jedi. Or maybe Palpatine killed few Jedi's in his youth, or maybe even Plagueis had a collection.
@tylernack19337 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@SpikeTheWolf5 жыл бұрын
So what happen with Kenobi?? What did he do
@Firestar40416 жыл бұрын
I do like the concept of the crystals being alive, and Sith just essentially make them bleed for their red lightsaber. But them going out killing Jedi, stealing their sabers; contradicts the whole "We must stay hidden" thing. And I also, just really like Legends: "Just use synthetic crystals, christ! Stop being so dramatic Jedis . . ." take on the thing.
@brucemoore49267 жыл бұрын
I like the original a lot more. What happens if there are no more Jedi to be found? Do new sith just not a get a light saber?
@mariquisflora35517 жыл бұрын
Bruce Moore Rule of two only palpatine and Vader. What other Sith?
@LadyLunarSatine7 жыл бұрын
Dooku, Maul and Ventress come to mind.
@AWMK1017 жыл бұрын
No it’s implying that you don’t need to steal the crystal to bleed it, it’s just the sith way. I’m sure if they had no more Jedi they would just make their own.
@IHopegood3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the act of killing a Jedi and forcing the crystal to bleed as opposed to the synthetic process
@TheREALHugo47 жыл бұрын
Officially, Rob is a jedituber
@HazzaJ947 жыл бұрын
Dude please do some of the Star Wars legends comics
@benzx15687 жыл бұрын
MAJOR SPOILERS do not scroll down
@123807387 жыл бұрын
sith having to kill a jedi and corrupt there lightsaber is cooler by far
@DGenHero7 жыл бұрын
ItsDemolisha Meh. Kinda stupid.
@TheNova5297 жыл бұрын
I liked the original version of how the Sith made their sabers. It made more sense with history of the Sith lore.
@KeijiMaeda866 жыл бұрын
Yeah.... all that lore? Disney said fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck that. This is the new lore.