It should be noted that in the Return of the King, the actual book itself and not the P. Jackson movie, the wild Easterlings were the one group of Pro-Sauron combatants that lasted the longest, so long in-fact that they were the last to yield to the armies of the West under King Elessar aka Aragorn II.
@Baelor-BreakspearАй бұрын
Actually 🤓 🤓 Aragorn Strider wasn’t king Aragorn, he was king Elessar. Aragorn the first wasn’t king just chieftain of the Dúnedain
@SirBogginsАй бұрын
@@Baelor-Breakspear My bad, edited it.
@Baelor-BreakspearАй бұрын
@@SirBoggins I was just goofing around it was totally fine. Sorry to come across as a jerk
@SirBogginsАй бұрын
@@Baelor-Breakspear Nah, it's all good. Based name btw.
@Baelor-BreakspearАй бұрын
@ same to you good sir Boggins
@mdefoe28Ай бұрын
Wonderful video! Today I was casually reading the Unfinished Tales, it's really a gold mine for anyone interested in these topics, especially the chapters about the Druedain and the Gwaithrim
@Baelor-BreakspearАй бұрын
The Druedain had the most sense of any Númenoreans. Every single one left the island before it was destroyed. Smart people those Woses
@dlevi67Ай бұрын
@@Baelor-Breakspear The wise Wose?
@SirBogginsАй бұрын
“We all long for Eden, and we are constantly glimpsing it: our whole nature at its best and least corrupted, its gentlest and most human, is still soaked with the sense of exile.” - J. R. R. Tolkien
@istari0Ай бұрын
Fascinating video! I love these longer form ones that tie together various elements of the Legendarium that are typically scattered throughout the larger work. My thanks to you.
@ESSTrainsАй бұрын
Brilliant video! I love the topic of the different groups of men and seeing how they developed over time
@jamesmarriner9675Ай бұрын
Wow. I'm super early. Awesome idea for a video. I love the different groups of humans in middle earth, so explaining the origins of them is great.
@madeinangbandАй бұрын
Awesome video, thanks for sharing! Particularly loved how you didn't miss that one-off reference in the Grey Annals to those rellies of the Sons of Bor who remained in Eriador. Interested in your take on the etymology of 'Gwathuirim'. My view is that it's derived from the early Numenorean explorers' perspective on where this people lived, ie. on either side of the Gwathlo River, rather than the Numenoreans' perspective of them being a hostile people. Yes, they were (translated literally) 'Shadow-people' but in the sense of those who lived by the 'River of Shadow' (Gwath-hir)) , later the 'shadowy river from the fens' (Gwathlo), as Tolkien put it more poetically. Anyway, that's my 10 castars worth!
@jackOldham-ob3pfАй бұрын
I have been waiting for this video for years, thank you for making it.
@bristleconepine4120Ай бұрын
All of these summary videos are great. I'll ask you to do this for all of the major races!
@lasersailor184Ай бұрын
Great video! One topic I think is brushed over and not really talked about is the presence of Wizards and Sorcerers in Middle Earth. I'm not talking about the Big 5. Basically the Big 5 couldn't operate if people thought they were something new, and something special.
@dansuciu733Ай бұрын
Again, top tier video.
@SirBogginsАй бұрын
I would most certainly love & support some lore-accurate adaptations of Tolkien's world of Middle-Earth that look into the myths, tales, wars and fantastical dynamics of these "Men in Middle-Earth" than what we have now with the Rings of Power by Amazon....
@AchyPartsАй бұрын
If only they decided to go with the early/middle Third Age, it could've been like an anthology series with stories from across the land
@karlvardy7367Ай бұрын
Have to remember that the Tolkien estate are pretty guarded with the IP so ROP only have a tiny amount of source material to draw from
@istari0Ай бұрын
No one should regard anything from RoP as being lore accurate without independently verifying it. And there is a precious little that will pass such scrutiny.
@dlevi67Ай бұрын
@@istari0 The names; in fact, _some_ names. That's about it.
@fgf4973Ай бұрын
Wow! So happy a comment left on a previous video got a video! Great topic to explore!
@AfroChefАй бұрын
Always appreciate your uploads. If you need an idea, Id be curious to hear your take on what you would like from a 3rd Shadows of Mordor game. I joked with my buddy Shadows of Umbar would be fun if it plays like Black Flag for the ship combat
@jamesmarriner9675Ай бұрын
A black flag style game would be epic! I had an idea for a game set in gundabad and or or the misty mountains as a whole fighting goblins. Or a game where you play as a dwarf survivalist trying to not die in moria during the fall of balins colony.
@Ramborg3Ай бұрын
Woohoo new video
@waynemcauliffe-fv5yfАй бұрын
Haleth are my faves and Dunlendings thanks mate
@cavetroll666Ай бұрын
Thanks for the content cheers and I've always wondered what hildorien was like and was there a mountain chain called the mountains of wind?
@alfieingrouille1528Ай бұрын
The biggest tragedy of Tolkien's legendarium is the lack of info on the East & South
@lamedame1213Ай бұрын
I think the video would be better if you could mark the regions on the map of middle earth. Can’t quite figure out where which group is located
@SirBogginsАй бұрын
Last time I was this early, Eru Ilúvatar was yet to bestow his gift upon humanity!
@muenchhausenmusicАй бұрын
"Cheers, farewell, and remember: Farewell, remember, and cheers!"
@mattcarnevaliАй бұрын
For some reason I’m obsessed with Adunaic. Idk why
@АнтонОрлов-я1ъАй бұрын
What about the Men of Tharbad? I think they deserve a mention if not a separate video.
@SvengelskaBlondie18 күн бұрын
Darth Gandalf: Cheers, farewell and remember that if you brought your Iphone to Middle Earth, they would also view it as some kind of "strange magic" 😅
@hermanmelville3368Ай бұрын
Woodmen from Mikrwood.
@ripl3y694Ай бұрын
I would love to see a similar video but for elves and dwarves each having there own individual video
@thejohnson2328Ай бұрын
Hey Darth, can you make a Video about Amandil and what happened to him? Maybe he (and his companions) did reached Valinor and was allowed to stay there like his ancestor Tuor? Would be very interesting since there isn't much Here to find on KZbin🙏🏻
@dlevi67Ай бұрын
There isn't much to find anywhere. As far as I know, Tolkien never wrote more than what is in the Akallabeth.
@thejohnson2328Ай бұрын
@ i sadly think so too :/ maybe Dartg find something or at least good assumptions ;)
@Byenie0912Ай бұрын
A mystery for me is how they managed to survive the hundred years journey from Hildorien to Beleriand? the Edain didn't have any Valar guiding them. there's no immortal body to shield them from hunger and the bitterness of the wilderness.
@istari0Ай бұрын
I'm sure many of them didn't survive.
@АнтонОрлов-я1ъАй бұрын
I think they migrate quite slowly, settling for some time to rest. They were also mostly hunters and shepherds, so migrating from one pasture or hunting ground to another seemed pretty reasonable to them.
@Byenie0912Ай бұрын
@@АнтонОрлов-я1ъ Maybe the rest of middle earth was uninhabited with only animals and trees for the taking. Morgoth focused only in Beleriand. That's why humans managed to migrate all over the continent in just a decades. and maybe the avari and silvan elves taught them basic hunting and gathering
@АнтонОрлов-я1ъАй бұрын
@@Byenie0912 There definitely were some settlements of Avari and Silvan Elves there, as well as Dwarves (who could provide early Men with some metal weapons and tools in exchange for food). There probably were some orcs and other monsters, but since Morgoth was far away they weren't well-organized and well-equipped. However, it seems that those inhabitants weren't numerous and most of Middle Earth was completely uninhabited at that time.
@rogueascendant6611Ай бұрын
I like the variety and diversity of Men and Dwarves than Elves. There's clearly a lot more about the differences of Men across Middle-earth than what others know. Our human species have all sorts of different traits from each region and the next. Easterlings and Haradrim certainly have more than it seems. Heck questions like are there Indians? or Asians featured from Chinese-Korean-Japanese-like? Tolkien seems a bit hypocrite of portraying the Easterlings as nothing barbaric. Like what classic Europe back then thought the people from the east as savages, uncultured, and warlike. It's a bit rich coming from them when they do conflicts and wars all the time. Definitely the picture reading the books are incomplete. This is because no one from the West goes to the East and documents the findings. Not even Saruman who goes there for a decade doing who knows what. When he return westward and establish a position in Orthanc (granted the key to the tower by Gondor). The wizard never written any records. He may have but never mentioned. He may have gone there to contact the Blue Wizards, as well understanding the nature and society built that wasn't affected heavily during the First Age.
@mkh7370Ай бұрын
what background do you use?
@michaelsmyth3935Ай бұрын
Concerning Forodwaith : so what about the Innuit of our time? Perhaps Solutrean Ice Age hunters roaming the Coasts? The extreme Northern settlements of the Scandinavian peoples? Lots of reasons.
@acebotari9Ай бұрын
Thanks
@meduseldtales3383Ай бұрын
For me the house of Beor feels similar to Celtic people, House of Hador to Germanic people and House of Haleth to Slavic people. That's simplification of course, but an easy way to envision them.
@seanyoung7713Ай бұрын
I think you mean Nordic as the third house
@АнтонОрлов-я1ъАй бұрын
I think that House of Haleth is more similar to Celts (at least Tolkien used some Celtic roots for the language of Dunlendings).
@SockenmodulatorАй бұрын
House of Hador (as well as all the Northmen) is clearly Germanic, while there are indications that the House of Haleth has similarities with Celts, at least in terms of language, as АнтонОрлов-я1ъ has already pointed out. The House of Beor is not entirely clear. In terms of culture and appearance, I would also recognize more Celtic similarities, but in terms of language they are closely related to the House of Hador. So I would say that you can only make limited comparisons between the two Houses Haleth/Beor and real peoples. Although Tolkien gave the Dunlendings, who are related to the House of Haleth, Celtic words, these peoples are rather reclusive and wild, whereas the Celts were comparatively civilized and highly developed, almost like the Romans. In terms of higher culture, I therefore see more similarities between the House of Beor and the Celts. Ultimately, you can only ever transfer partial aspects to the real world, which also fits in with the fact that Tolkien didn't want to write allegories, even though he was clearly inspired by European history and mythology. If I remember correctly, it is described that the Houses of Hador and Beor had the same origins, but then settled in different places at a large lake, hence the linguistic affinity. The House of Beor was perhaps on the more southern side and mixed with other people there who had darker hair... As far as Slavic peoples are concerned, I hardly see any equivalents in Middle-earth. To be honest, I would rather assume them to be one of the many peoples of the Easterlings (perhaps the ones with the beards and axes, although that also sounds pretty Nordic or could mean anything). Perhaps also the people of Dorwinion, which would at least fit in terms of the map, because they are the south-eastern neighbors of the people of Dale, who strongly resemble Scandinavians. By the way, there is no real-world equivalent for a well-known wine-growing region so far to the north and east of Europe. All very speculative, but maybe Darth Gandalf can make a video on the subject ;-)
@crowverra5343Ай бұрын
💜💙💚💛🧡❤️
@OldBrensBarnАй бұрын
Quarterpounders
@chables74Ай бұрын
Algormancy!
@grimgrauman7650Ай бұрын
For the algorithm
@Baelor-BreakspearАй бұрын
Dudes name was Ulfang and nobody figured out they were traitors??
@tiltskillet7085Ай бұрын
_"Greetings, Caranthir. My name is Ulfang the Black, also known as the Schemer and the Duplicitous. And this is my son Uldor the Accursed, also known as the Faithless and the False Hearted Double Crosser of Elves. We pledge to you our undying loyalty! "_ Caranthir: _"Sounds good."._ And one of Uldor's brothers' names translates literally as "Ugly Betrayer". :P See also: Theoden appointing somebody named Grima _"Trust me Bro"_ Wormtongue to be his XO.
@211aonscratch4Ай бұрын
@@tiltskillet7085 Okay but bro was named Caranthir the Dark. Probably didn't raise an eyebrow.
@АнтонОрлов-я1ъАй бұрын
@@tiltskillet7085 To be fair, Uldor definitely was called "the Accused" after the betrayal. Also it is possible that all those names are from Sindarin, in which case the interaction probably looked something like that: "Greetings, Caranthir. My name is Shanghvarzhigrung Akhrd-Tw'wurgurugug. I pledge to you my undying loyalty! " "Ahem, I am not going to pronounce that name. I am going to call you Ulfang, is that okay?" "Fine... And what does that name means?" "Ugh... It means Ugly Beard... Because, you know, your beard is really ugly..." Shanghvarzhigrung Akhrd-Tw'wurgurugug begins to plot the betrayal. As for Grima Wormtomgue, in Rohorric Grima means "Visor, face-mask (of a helmet)", and Wormtongue (Wyrmtunge) means "snake-tongued" or "dragon-tongued", suggesting wisdom and not treacherousness. Bot names are quite suitable for king's steward and advisor.
@tiltskillet7085Ай бұрын
@@АнтонОрлов-я1ъ Certainly. But if it wasn't clear, my comment was only meant in fun.
@delphinazizumbo8674Ай бұрын
let's see, there's the Peter Jackson fan boys; the people who prefer the Hobbit animated movie, but not the Ralph Bashki films; the people who don't know there were three Hobbit movies and of course, the Silmarillion snobs
@dlevi67Ай бұрын
It is whispered there are even some that like The Rings of Power.
@PuritanProdcutionsАй бұрын
Of course the white ones are the most chosen
@alfieingrouille1528Ай бұрын
?
@Lucky13RavensАй бұрын
In the European Epic, based in a region that will become Northwest Europe. Also, Dunlandings are white, the hill men are white, didn't mention the evil white men. Why are you so racist?