DARTS HINT TIPS AND ADVICE Practice and finishing

[@johnmcdermott6287]

Thanks for the videos Dave, I'm watching them every evening and putting your tips and techniques to good use here in in Australia. Donation sent.

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

Hi John greatly appreciated mate ever penny helps and goes straight back in the channel Thanks D Dave...

[@OlliePUK15924]

Thanks for not being those idiots who instead of being interested in trying to help you, just want to show off their skills, thank you mate. 🙏

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

I have to be honest I do put the odd one of me playing on but that is just to stop the "who do you think you are ive never see you play" clowns but yes I am here to help others and its very slowly Turing into a great channel.

[@OlliePUK15924]

Dynamite Dave Llewellyn: Yeah I understand the odd one so people don’t think you talk all this but you can’t perform. Yes it is turning into a great dart tips channel matey.

[@andrewalexander5345]

I think quite like you on this, bigger the target the better and easier to hit, my routing that I use for practicing finishing is I practice these doubles mainly, which are, double 20,10,5,18,9,16,8,4,12,6,3 and bull, because these are usually the doubles you leave yourselves in a game. And finishing is my strong part of my game by practicing this.

[@davidrobertson4538]

I’m totally convinced DD that I need a wrist mounted dart crossbow to be consistent.

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

If I can do it so can you Dave The difference is I didn't have Dynamite Dave so I had to spend well over two years building and developing the D Dave way and now I offer it you and everyone free to air on my channel so get to that oche and get practicing All the best D Dave...

[@martyndaly1539]

132. If I hit the bullseye I'd go T14 next dart anyway. You can go whichever way you want if you're going to hit it but if you lose because you basically refused a chance at the bullseye (same for your way around 126) you'll get crucified. Double double is fine but for me it's only an option when you've only got 2 darts in hand. An interesting take on finishing though, thanks Dave

[@DJ_Sharpee]

i love finishing a double double where i can. it can get you out of trouble if you hit a single when you need a treble then you just double that same number then on to next double for finish.

[@jonasw123]

The problem is if you play a normal level like avarages from 70-80 you are more confident on the triples .If you have 76 i would go for the triple 20 because you are scoring at the triple 20 the same for triple 19 . I think this method is better for high level dart player. PS: Sry for my bad english im fron Germany.

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

no no this level is logic and good for everyone 72 16s for tops hit single then its another 16 for tops is this not obvious as it is to me.

[@idi0tdetectioninprogress]

Even the pros have less than 50% finishing stats in most matches, proving more doubles are missed than hit. Double double combos have a time and place, with two darts left and opponent on a finish. Personally I've never avoided D9 or D5, but it's great to see the many different ways people count and board manage.

[@adammorgan7089]

Great video. Definitely changed my way of thinking so I'll give it a go. Although, doubles aren't double the size of trebles. They're wider but not as tall. Haven't measured it myself but looked into it online and it seems that doubles are 1.5x the size of trebles

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

Yep your dead right they are not technically twice the size its just a figure of speech to emphasize the fact they are way bigger and therefore easier to hit.

[@eighteenbull6177]

Double double, did this 46 years ago as a rookie D12 D20 Isaw it as logical way in my first ever competition at the age of 18 and won it

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

You must have been on balsa wood darts with lead collars back then i remember them from being a kid. Where i come from it was all log end in them days we didnt see the london board round here till 70s.

[@eighteenbull6177]

Dave no,brass darts, not quite Jim pikes, cost me 50 p used real feathers at some stage, not long after came out copper tungsten and 3 years of riding on a crest of a wave, Boris is just an Alias but my initials are B.B from the County of Shropshire and have played for my home county plus Montgomery and Radnor. Interesting your comments about both eyes vision, I've tried many slight variation of style and was very successful throwing from the side of my head as per you, however, I've just recently gone back "40" years and now aiming with my right eye looking through the gap between thumb and index finger, my left eye is not restricted by my hand, what i see is the board and two out of focus thumbs which disappear once i get into the groove,.

[@DartsReviewChannel]

I have it on good authority that MVG follows your tips Dave, lol :)

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

Cheeky bugger lol i was only at his house the other week honest lol lol

[@DartsReviewChannel]

hahaha I knew it! :D

[@davidrobertson4538]

Darts Review Channel I believe he would benefit by slowing his throw down a little.

[@DJ_Sharpee]

look who it is.

[@DartsReviewChannel]

@@DJ_Sharpee who? :P

[@iraceruk]

I definitely suffer from Ohstuffthisimcrapimgoingitis! Great advice that I'll try - thanks! 👍

[@boheem3451]

My board has 5cm doubles and 3cm trebles, measured on the longest part..

[@mattyswan1]

I like the idea of splitting numbers - not sure about the odd double doubles at my level (intermediate) because of missing outside the double leaves you in the same spot - love the series!

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

I would suggest you use them in your practice routines and build your ability with them I use them myself in open comp play if you go to the end of this video you will see the effect it has on an opponent after I miss herd the ref my opponent was on a one dart out and what I did next his reaction is lets say a common one its at 18 mins 50sec. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4GpnGONmqlkfqs

[@johncapriotti8894]

Thanks Dave

[@larsx311]

132 I would go for T20 and two D18 because you can stay on the same double. Very good video and good advice btw. I will try to play the double double route more often now. Greetings from Germany

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

Hi Lars it's all down to the individual on how you finish but I think it's easier this way and believe me it crushes an opponent if you finish my way. Cheers Dynamite Dave

[@kingdarren819]

Killer killer cool idea... you rock buddy keep up the good ideas..

[@PCG2022]

Good video. I think I learnt the 81 finish from one of your videos? T19 D12, If miss T19 Then T12 D13, If I miss T12 With a S12 Then Bull. I like these! & need more! My maths isn't that great to do it fast enough to keep my natural flow with my arrows:( With the 81 Finish I can now throw at my natural pace which in turn I hit more %. So thank you! If I hit S7 with my first arrow my head turns to mud though!! haha. Any more rotation finishes would be great. A series with 80-90 finishes then 90-100 etc would be amazing!

[@keithcroxford5703]

I struggle hitting d5 lost a few games for county,do i just practice on it ?

[@LOVEALL]

I'll be applying this tactic. Thanks

[@MrJordy56]

There's some good advice in this but I have to disagree with the 126 way of finishing as you only need one treble 19 and a single to leave a shot at the bull

[@clintgalloway617]

Awesome videos Dave theyve really been teaching me alot of what I needed to know on the mental side of darts now that I've been playing competitively for a couple of years it's helped alot.. Do you have any videos that go more in depth with following through to the board and having a consistent release? One of the main thing I've been struggling with quite some time now no matter how much I keep telling myself to do it at the oche it always goes out the window at tournaments lol any help would be highly appreciated, cheers bud

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

Hi Clint Video coming on nerves at a tournament and how to control them. And i will now start to do some on more advanced techniques involving all aspects of the game.

[@davidrobertson4538]

DD that is an impressive looking board and background. Do you have the part numbers for them?

[@ronnyhuybrechts7548]

Dave great videos mate and your an excellent teacher but your logic on these finishes is diabolical.. 126... T20 T20 D3?? If you hit the T20 you wouldnt risk going for another. T16 and if you hit the big number you get a chance at bull. Also mate trust me the pros arent copying you. Master that Burnley B flight first.. Keep it up tho mate. My son loves the videos and your an excellent teacher... respect :)

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

Hi Ronny Mate if your the real one I love watching you and your kid Kim play his flamboyance and your steely determination. My core thinking is doubles are bigger than trebles and therefore easier to hit I do understand obviously that certain finishes mean if you miss a treble you may get a shot at bull. yes I can see t 20 t20 double three is a risk but for me if your there stay there. but by using my method in practice it forces you to use the doubles and as we say its. Its doubles for dough. Also if you build your skill on the doubles to a point you know your going to hit them if you do go D16-D top with three in hand for 72 and do it two or three times. "your opponent will be knocked sideways". I did it last night 132= t20 tops for16s 140= t20- tops for tops put one in and one next to it. you already have the arm speed and pitch distance locked in so why change. and don't forget as I always say this is all subjective have a go if it works for you then fantastic if not the just take the bits that do. Much respect to you to mate if your at the UK open in march let me know and we can have a pint and a chat. I will be doing the qualifiers in 2019 for 2020 if my knees are sorted im way to old but I will give it a go. Cheers D Dave.

[@DartsPlanetTV]

Good video as always

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

Thanks Gav always great to get a thumbs up from the big boys i love your channel and website i will do the other challenges soon buddy

[@finnegan900]

Good video 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@sendbnes]

great video sir, and can you make a video on how to hold/grip a bullet type barrel like Phil Taylor gen 4?

[@gwn860]

Nice one Dave, cheers.

[@dommitchell1050]

Great vid Dave, very helpful

[@magwamagwa45110]

66 42 for 24 or 14 12 tops, I have no problem with double double it is bigger and a shot to win is better than no shot where my game suffers is the transition from like350 down to leave a finish i always seem to get lost in this area I play to a 80 to 85 average just can not seem to get it higher any advice ? love your videos...

[@bobbybranigan9823]

Great video dace very helpful

[@cathalkeenan8]

What if you hit no score when going for double i would rather triples because your not going to miss board

[@wayneflint6836]

If I go inside 18 I go 6 or 10s leave a double done it the pub the looks I got

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

Hi Wayne buddy that's all good and as long as you know where your going and go where you know you will hit way more outs than standing looking confused when your first dart goes in the wrong bed or segment. D Dave...

[@ribletroblet]

66? D15 D18? really? I mean how often do you miss outside the 15? then you get zero darts at a double. At least T10 D18 route when you miss you still get a shot. I don't care if the doubles are bigger target, Im going to Guarantee a dart at a finish when possible.

[@eshka-tv-1]

I agree with you. Anyway when you use d15-d18 you may shoot in wire between big 15 and d15, so this is no problem if you hit big 15, you may than go to 19 and d16. You no need to hit directly d15, because this is not finishing yet, sooo anyway i will try all this by myself. Thanks for video!

[@kieranwoolston9183]

The logic behind it sort of makes sense but the maths behind it does the exact opposite. Which is why pros don’t do this often. If you’re on 80, pros go T20 D10 because if they miss they hit 20 and then can 20 d20. If they miss the d20 once and then go for it again and hit 20 they can’t finish. For most of the finishes you mention it’s better to go the mathematical way. However if a player in a pro game is already on an easy double then this is when the double double comes in as like you said it’s easier to hit logically, but overall it’s better to go for the mathematical way. You still have a great point but not for all the time you should just use it for times when the opponent should finish on the next visit

[@Anvil4581]

Any tips for aiming? I struggle at the top of the board

[@robertlusk9814]

keep your tip up raise your elbow

[@charliethebossgray5379]

Hi David Great Video For That👍

[@jed_91]

Rod harrington was first to go double double

[@erraticleeme6760]

Ya got lots of Subs now DDL! Lots of great info could be the cause? By the way! I’m professional now!!! I won $10 in a tournament!!😂 👍👍👍cheers🍻Mate

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

wow MVG watch out lol thanks Lee mate yes the subs are growing steady now and the message must be good very very few detractors on the channel and I think that's because if a player just take little bits and tries them it makes a difference to there game. The biggest thing of argument is my finishing like in this video but I have found again its working for players the current perception was not the perception in the 70s and todays may not be in the next decade or so I finished about 10 legs in live play yesterday on double double finishes now if I need 132 its sound mad but I go T20 D16 D top I hit a 140 T20 tops tops and its now giving me way more ton plus finishes than ever. im mowed out with coaching vids and advice emails I am like a ping pong ball again but I love it just wish I could monetise it to the point I could do it full time. But good things come to those who wait and I will keep keeping on till that Day all the best lee mate D Dave...

[@marvellousmark1]

The 132 isn't logical though. If you miss the treble you can't go out with remaining two but hit the 25 you can still go out and have a marker in the bull. The 25 is a big target! Well explained though

[@yeotaJMU]

D15 D15 D20 is 100

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

Well spotted i realised when reviewing it i don't do any editing so i do make the odd mistake sorry for that buddy

[@toddockham6209]

i spotted that

[@zzzz-ok7733]

🍺GREETING DYNAMITE DAVE FROM THE MOJAVE DESERT CALIFORNIA!🏜️

[@danielhughes212]

Sorry but when you have 10 left you should go straight for the double as every double is the same size just be confident in hitting you. You are just teaching people to be scared of certain doubles which isn’t a good mind set as sometime you have to go for these doubles also double double is good in some situations like if you have 80 or 72 but not every situation you shouldn’t tell people that’s what they have to go for go for what ever you feel comfortable some people are confident in hitting a treble I have a question Dave if you’re on 92 and your opponent is on 32 how will you go for the 92?

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

Firstly in almost every one of my videos I state my advice is subjective what works for me may not be what you think is right and you are under no obligation to take the advice or even watch the videos. secondly you say I shouldn't tell people the way they should go straight are saying (when you have 10 left you should go straight for the double as every double is the same size). hummmm. thirdly as I have said on so many occasions you go for what you are comfortable with you may be crap and comfortable so you will remain comfortably crap and everyone is happy. and finally 92 for me is T20 if hit 16s -8s ect. if T20 missed and hit single 20 its D16 D top. I personally wouldn't know what an opponent were on if we were playing for money I stand with my back to an them and dont look I dont talk I just play im not one for inflicting pressure on myself.

[@RussCampbell11]

When you explain finishing 90 with two D15 then D20....don't you mean finishing 100 that way?

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

Yep I get things wrong as I have slight number dysphoria and this need for simplicity is what started my way of thinking about finishing 😎😎🎯🎯👍👍

[@RussCampbell11]

I'm also left handed at darts. I know most people struggle to even throw darts with their other hand but I'm kind of ambidextrous. Although when I throw right handed I spin the dart and the 20 looks like it's around at the 12 position. Think it's something in the brain.

[@fallguystester6029]

Pretty simple Dave just don't leave 36

[@robertlusk9814]

90 always bull 1st dart two doubles

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

My favourite way is 3x D15 its just grouping and it crushes an opponent when you hit it. D Dave...

[@robertlusk9814]

never said anything 1st leg 2nd leg or is it 3rd leg. If your opponent can not take out his score. You know your have an extra 3 darts. Just don't miss.

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

Hi Robert as I always say in 99% of my videos its all subjective and I am offering an alternative to the perceived way of doing things and it seems to be working for big number of people so I say practice your doubles like you do your scoring get to a point your as confident of hitting all of them as your T 20 and you wont go wrong dont forget its trebles for show doubles for dough . All the best Dynamite Dave...

[@robertlusk9814]

Best wishes GOOD HUNTING.

[@antmarshall4229]

Absolute legend Dave right in what you say it's all logical thinking not many people think logical because of all the shit we fed on TV

[@aaronwarner1257]

his finishing advice is the opposite of logical , the logical way to go is the one that results most often in getting a shot for the leg , the 126 , T20 T20 D3 for example if you miss the first dart the finish is no longer on , where as the logical way gives you more margin for error and more chances to take out the leg ,

[@lillyandrews3788]

Why would anyone go 126 the 60 route .miss and no finish

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

Ive changed my way of doing this now I go T20 D13 tops and hitting it at 48.2% over twenty attempts instead of 36.7% for the T20 T20 D3 route. cheers D Dave...

[@finnegan900]

Either your very short or the board is very high I’m not sure which

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

Ralph Finnegan I'm short the board is within a 16th on the height and an 8th on oche length buddy. Lol

[@finnegan900]

Just an observation nice video

[@funkyfm9128]

I like the concept of most of them except the 126 just what? Haha but overall real good advice :)

[@golfbettingtipster8798]

I am missing something or was that video just stating the obvious

[@paulgill9989]

Isn't a bull 5'8" christ dude how tall are you?

[@rgpinpool433]

Good Vid, anyone ever tell you, you look like Robert DeNiro?

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

Yes mate you lol Dynamite DeNrio yoo hoo

[@AngloSaxonEnglishman]

Double 15, double 15, double 20 is a silly way to finish, it should be a 2 dart finish (treble 20, double 20) not a 3 dart finish.

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

Do you know the meaning of subjective it's my thinking no one else's and no one sa8d you have to do it. unless I have missed somthing. Cheers D Dave...

[@AngloSaxonEnglishman]

@@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn I agree with you on some double doubles, like double tops double tops as it makes perfect sense to hit the bigger area of the doubles than to hit the smaller trebles area, but I wouldn't finish 100 with d15 d15 d20 but I respect your way of doing it. Nice videos by the way.

[@chrisaphelion]

Had a bloke throw d16 d16 for a 64 out against me.. Cheeky Bastard...

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

Chris Munro you wouldn't l9ke playing me then buddy the idea is to win double double is easier than treble double just logical not cheeky.

[@dartilleur1]

D15 D15 D20 is not 90 its a 100

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

LOL that's old very old yap im human are you ????

[@dartilleur1]

i didint mean it in a bad way

[@DynamiteDaveLlewellyn]

@@dartilleur1 that's what the lol was for buddy I know you weren't being awful just my sense of humour.

[@robertlusk9814]

this guy isn't even 5`6"

[@elliotlovegrove2695]

And? Plank

[@whycomes9562]

Common sense isn't always common. Your logic is unarguable.