DATA SCIENCE or SOFTWARE ENGINEERING?? ChatGPT Changed Everything

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[@GregHogg]

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[@waynelast1685]

Interesting video. I think a lot of people needed this. Long story short I am switching careers and going into Data Analysis and Data Science. Trust me, I am very skeptical, and have put a lot of thought into this. I want to make sure I am making the right decision. I have come to basically the same conclusions as you with a few caveats... Data Analysis ( pulling, preparing, some analysis, display of data) will become much more streamlined and require fewer people, and performed faster. But you still NEED to know the core skills, just not be an expert at it. Salaries will go down some, but more applications will be found needing more people so salaries will be somewhat stabilized. ( Microsoft Fabric is one streamlined application but will not be applicable in all situations.) Data Science ( less Data Analysis and more algorithms and machine learning) will be more streamlined also but less so. The people doing Data Analysis will be able to move QUICKER into Machine Learning skills and experience, and companies will like or request it. So higher salaries will be supported somewhat. (Microsoft Fabric again) This is still a high-growth field in terms of applications ( think IOT). That is not going away I think for a long time. If generative AI streamlines work in Data Analysis and Data Science, that leaves much more time to learn new skills like Data Engineering, Software Engineering, Cloud Tech, etc.

[@thetrufh]

Interested in Data Science as well. Are you considering a bootcamp or self-learning?

[@thejsworld4]

@@thetrufhwhich did you choose? I'm considering the boot camp. If you started already, and tips?

[@alananalyst7795]

that was really informative! when I started my journey I knew it's not going to be easy in tech but if I have curiosity and mindset of never stop learning I can achieve anything!

[@RhoChalmers]

Thank you. I'm doing my last year in my degree. I've been playing with machine learning and openai. I was wondering how I might turn this into a career. Great video.

[@user.abuser_]

What do you think will be more relevant and in demand in the next 5-10 years, machine learning engineering or data engineering?

[@GregHogg]

Cool glad to hear it!!

[@di-egohumilde4515]

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[@travistester5232]

another great video Greg, I appreciate your industry insights. I am a newer analyst (2 years in now) and wondering how to stay relevant in the future with the recent shakeups. I think this is valuable information and a roadmap

[@GregHogg]

Definitely try to get in on the ML game! Congrats on your hard work and thanks for the support:)

[@travistester5232]

@@GregHogg appreciate the advice, Greg. I will def begin my journey into ML and start to dabble in software dev afterwards to stay competitive, cheers mate

[@GregHogg]

@@travistester5232 Sounds great - best of luck!!

[@sebastienroux1790]

Too bad chatgpt cant give you the 3-5 years pofessional work paid-for experience you need to get your first job

[@aryansuvarna4923]

great video greg! appreciate the insight

[@GregHogg]

You're very welcome and thanks for the support :)

[@ahmedshehata7783]

Hey Greg, Can you please do a complete roadmap for computer vision like the one you did for data science 🙏

[@GregHogg]

It's super super similar, just focus some computer vision specialist stuff at the end of the data science pathway. But yeah maybe I should make a video on this

[@ahmedshehata7783]

@@GregHogg Thanks really appreciate it ❤

[@wdeath]

ChatGPT can't plan and reason, so it can't be an engineer. Also its not more clever than people, so it can't fully replace jobs. Clever is harder, engineer is easier i think,

[@GregHogg]

This is accurate

[@waynelast1685]

Yeah but in 10 years ( maybe 3 years? LOL) ChatGPT will be able to plan and reason. But it will still need a "conductor" so you still need to learn all the skills.

[@wdeath]

I don't have a clue i don't think scientists know also when this will happen, but AI doesn't scare me , capitalism does, without capitalism we could let AI do only things we cant or don't want to do, but capitalism will push AI everywhere, so we need to stop voting it, and all those worries will go away.

[@waynelast1685]

@@wdeath true. I what you’re saying I think is AI may not be bad, but the way people use AI is bad. There’s a lot of truth in that statement. For example, the people who control the large language models filter out information that they don’t like. So who’s to say what they don’t like or like? For example open AI is controlled by Microsoft, and Microsoft is a liberal minded company, so I know they are filtering out any conservative information that doesn’t agree with their liberal agenda. I can already see it in the type of news stories that show up in Microsoft edge. Definitely, there is a left leaning angle there, and not hardly any conservative minded stories.

[@wayln2591]

​@@waynelast1685sweetie you are delusional if u think conservatives will be censored. They are the ones going after everyone's free speech rights. 🤡🤡

[@smiilisa]

Thank you :) I have to enrol for my master's degree and was unsure between these two.

[@authentic_101]

Sorry, but this wasn't very motivating. The video feels repetitive too. Sorry, but this has been a sensitive topic for many professionals like me, and tihs video didn't really help much.

[@Allohistory]

So do i gain a strong foundation in software engineering before advancing to data science? Is that full proof?

[@Max-vn9mu]

I am a Public Accountant, but I don't live in the United States. I want to change careers and was leaning towards Data Science. However, considering my current decent salary and the option of freelancing for extra income, I am now undecided. I enjoy programming. What are your thoughts on pursuing a career as a Python developer, in Data Science, or in Web development?

[@OO-il6sl]

How about becoming a data analyst? Is it better for beginners to pick a different career path?

[@GregHogg]

Pick which ever career path you'd like!!

[@bigshot_07]

Then what's the point of making this video? If we want to choose whatever we like! 😂 @GregHogg

[@anggadi1564]

The point is you should know what happpens the impact of ChatGPT to your career lol

[@bigshot_07]

@@anggadi1564 haha everyone knows it! I guess you should update yourself ..lmao

[@anggadi1564]

@@bigshot_07 if everyone knows then why you still ask question like foolish person lol 😄

[@pramesh.gurung]

people forget this things are just starting out. just imagine in few years how advanced chatgpt would be.

[@GregHogg]

Exactly

[@hasiiabbasi]

What about data engineer role?

[@GregHogg]

Go for it, they're great!

[@RoYeRLaruku]

Thanks for the info, and the video :D

[@josephdaquila2479]

Wouldn't MLOps be a bit of both? Edit: Nevermind, it sounds like you're saying data science roles require software engineering skills as well.

[@GregHogg]

Yep, that's what I'm saying :)

[@YakoBlast]

hey greg, do you think is more easy to get a Machine Learning Engineer job as a software Engineer or as a data Scientist?

[@GregHogg]

Either one.

[@abdallahtalam1348]

Thank you sir, i tried to follow your ML roadmap but it turns out that the first recommendation (andrew ng coursera) is not free anymore, can please suggest a free alternative for beginners? Thank you

[@hopelesssuprem1867]

U may ask financial help for free.

[@Flavor190]

Why not pay it? If you really want improve your life you’ll have to invest some cash

[@bhaskaruppada7014]

brother i am following that course for free but for no certificate by auditing that course

[@akihiko99]

I have question is it not necessary to learn Software Development before learning Machine Learning? I am from non tech i want to make career as a Machine Learning engineer. So I am confuse should I learn first software development then get job as fresher but companies aren't hiring freshers or laying off freshers Software Development techies Or try path of Data Analyst --> ML engineer?

[@GregHogg]

It could help but isn't strictly necessary

[@maveriks463]

Look at your region- what's really in demand and has openings that you could stretch to.. typically swe demand outstrip DS/MLE so think data analyst step to DS. Or swe Step to DS..

[@akihiko99]

@@maveriks463 thanks i decided to go with business analytics then ml

[@waynelast1685]

@@akihiko99 Business analystics is just Data analysis applied to typical business problems. It's good to learn data analysis in a specialty domain like business but don't get trapped into only knowing a few things . If you want to be a data analyst then know everything which means I would strongly suggest learn other skills.

[@scrotiemcboogerballs2133]

@@akihiko99 how's your current experience in BA?

[@gavinkalaher7314]

this.

[@shantanubharvirkar7759]

Where can i learn more about ML and are there any courses for it on coursera?

[@GregHogg]

Check the video description:)

[@Hello_am_Mr_Jello]

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[@OunMuhammad-w3v]

Why are you so nice

[@GregHogg]

Not sure

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[@SENATOROV]

*you, like me* DS ❤

[@NanduSasikumar-r4q]

Harsh reality.....just analysis on notebooks seems to be coming to an end....the fact about deployment is so true

[@GregHogg]

Yeah exactly!

[@hemanthgupta202]

very informative Greg. you are talking about what is real. How the current market situation and How you should be best of the best. Those are all very good points Greg. I hope you'll keep this going😎. All the very best my man!🤗

[@dtae7855]

Thank you so much for this video. It gave me a lot to think about as I progress thru my undergraduate years.

[@GregHogg]

Best of luck!!

[@user.abuser_]

Hi, Greg. What do you think will be more relevant and in demand in the next 5-10 years, machine learning engineering or data engineering?

[@GregHogg]

I predict both will be necessary jobs. Past that it's tough to say