Datto, Aztecross, Byf and Skill Up discuss the future of Bungie and Destiny | Friends Per Second #33

[@SkillUp]

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[@scabby.knees99]

Datto, Aztecross and Byf aren't linked in the description yet

[@burningthumbs]

Yeah, and the complexity of getting into the game. I skipped a few years and coming back was so expensive. Expansions, Seasons, passes, dungeons - so often I wanted to do an activity with a friend and one of us were missing something. I just checked my Steam purchase history - €95 alone on Destiny in 2023. And I already owned the game! It wasn’t cheap to play all their content.

[@user-kr5vm8nk1d]

Actually really nice to have an interview section where everyone has an great mic.

[@Not-Susan]

YES

[@HumanistGordian]

Indeed.

[@Eyro_Elloyn]

Genuinely don't know how these people in the gaming industry so consistently have crap mics.

[@antiimperialista5764]

@@Eyro_Elloyn They don't have friends to talk to, because any serious friend would call you out 🤣

[@willuigi64]

@@Eyro_Elloyn my assumption is it isn't important to their work.

[@kaltask1]

Jirard forgot to complete his donation to dementia foundation for 9 years in a row, the irony 🫣🤐🥸

[@reggietyrone]

They don't care about actual charity, he spent the last decade trying to figure out how they could just keep 100% of the profits like many other KZbinr scammers that use their injured or deceased family members to scam out of their viewers. Shameful.

[@Drarkstar]

I hope they kick this clown out of the podcast, there are so many creators who would be a better fit

[@jhank0cean]

I think Jirard's own dad is the real culprit and he does not want to throw him under the bus. He's talked about in the past how troubling his relationship with his father is. I wouldn't be surprised if he's legitimately afraid of his father.

[@DaCaptainDerpy]

2:28:37-2:29:06 Jirard in his apology: ""I'm disappointed that I was not more straightforward regarding the foundation's timeline for making donations.."

[@matics898]

"I'm sorry I got caught"

[@bobbobson9952]

You know it's serious when the 4 Horsemen gather to sit together in a podcast

[@JohnCaccio]

Neo Liberal company does Neo Liberal tactics, what a surprise! Blame the employees, blame the fans, blame content creators, blame, blame, blame, what a shame. I am a recovering alcoholic, one of the first things I learnt was that I could not afford to blame people, places or things for my life situation. I am responsible for me! Bungie needs to accept responsibility and own their own problems, short-comings and weaknesses. I am tired of the Neo Liberal narrative that's invaded all, and corrupted everything.

[@andrewramirez9727]

fe;t ;ike it was wayy to much to be concerned about thid

[@Malkoburn]

Anyone else just think about a gay cyborg when they read or hear “neo liberal “

[@bunnerkins]

@@JohnCaccio define "neo liberal" for me real quick.

[@JustinZode]

@@bunnerkins”Neoliberalism is contemporarily used to refer to market-oriented reform policies such as "eliminating price controls, deregulating capital markets, lowering trade barriers" and reducing, especially through privatization and austerity, state influence in the economy.” Also associated with favoring Wall Street and the military industrial complex in terms of government policies; and in corporations we see them virtue signaling that they care about women, minorities, LGBT etc but without any material or class based analysis so they use the identity politics for marketing purposes while pushing economic policies that hurt those same groups. The way Bungie talks about caring about those groups and players and employees and then laying off 100 of their most tenured workers in a way that also cuts them off from their stocks since they’re not vested and doesn’t allow them health insurance, etc. is a good example. It also often leads to corporations killing the golden goose like this, sabotaging the long term health of their company chasing short term quarterly profits.

[@mauliksharma]

I think Ralph would be a great Rick Astley for Halloween. He has the perfect look. Just need a duster.

[@RealCtc]

Holy crap he does look like rick astley

[@Obsidian0Sky]

This would be incredible

[@k0ntak]

And he would never give us up! He would never let us down!

[@MajorPhilGraves]

This might be the last onscreen appearance of the Completionist before he's incarcerated for charity fraud

[@xlinnaeus]

100% completion run

[@ShizukiShirano]

@@xlinnaeus The irony

[@spudsbuchlaw]

@@xlinnaeus Hey man, can't blame him. According to Steam, only 3% of players get the The Charity Fraud ending Had to work for it this run

[@clypeusmedia43]

As someone who doesn't play D2 much anymore, seeing four big names in the Destiny community come together like this is insane. Looking forward to seeing your insights.

[@exvex5108]

As someone who doesn't play D2 anymore, i didnt even know they are big names in Destiny.. and no idea why i got it in my recomended.

[@crackwh0re911]

Played d2 a long long time ago.. brought a friend in a few months ago. It's a mobile game now. Just grind. Popups. Dlc. Store. Just even more greed than 8 other greedy companies. And so messy and confusing menu. We Quit after a couple hours and uninstalled..

[@VVVV88-x3u]

glad you broke the cycle of abuse. 👊🏻

[@omegaprime223]

@@exvex5108 It was in my mother's feed, the last video game she played was F-Zero on the N64. I think this is such a high-profile thing it's punched into KZbin's core news algorithm.

[@G_Rad_Ski]

I'd rather have not a big streamer who is way too associated with Bungie talk about it.

[@_Oscartoons]

Hi, Ralph. Longtime fan of the podcast here. I don’t play Destiny, but as someone who was laid off from the entertainment industry this year, I really appreciate your conversation. It helps me feel less alone seeing all of the grievances you guys have with Bungie be discussed, since this is largely the same grievances I have with the companies going through layoffs this year. Thank you!

[@drgonzo123]

Sorry to hear you lost your job to BS like this. I feel nowhere is safe in this current job market anymore. Even government jobs my parents use to tell me were great, ironclad jobs aren’t safe. I always wanted a job in the creative arts community, but after this year especially, my thoughts have changed. Hope you land on your feet man, and know that you are not alone.

[@SQTierHog]

Base closures back in the early '90s, when I had just purchased a new home, destroyed me caused me to go into a whole another line of work (and I ended up retiring with decent benefits and pay from that line of work that I didn't care for). Who who would have thought after finally being employed by the government, that you'd ever lose your job? If that was a concern, I never would have bought a house. Anyhow, good luck to you, You may not like it, but some kind of employment will come around to you, if even temporarily until you can find something you enjoy!

[@speedracer2please]

You're far from alone, I don't think a single one of my friends from entertainment is working right now. I'm fortunate enough, but still making a fraction of what I did in 2019, it's rough out there.

[@averymullen366]

Excited to finally hear skill up freely and honestly talk about D2, especially with all the boys!

[@Reebonics]

All of the supreme shills gathered to suckle upon the teet of Bunghole.

[@Graavigala85]

Shillup and Destiny is like Maga and Trump. Destiny could kills his whole family and shit in his face and still he would be "Oh its not that bad, theres lot of cool there, sure it killed my family but at least it did not shit on the corpses!"

[@gloriouscrocodilerex1454]

@@Graavigala85 What?

[@robdurfee6861]

@@gloriouscrocodilerex1454haters man, they say the craziest shit

[@Graavigala85]

@@gloriouscrocodilerex1454 chicken butt

[@rickyfrancis9711]

What byf said about the ceo of Nintendo is facts our community gaming/development need this

[@user-zx3eo9qr9x]

Lmaooo you're such a tooL

[@DioxideCad]

All companies should do this. The fault of lower sales should fall on the executives, not the devs.

[@DioxideCad]

@@user-zx3eo9qr9xyou don’t think the highest earners should take a wage cut to save dev’s jobs?

[@rickyfrancis9711]

@iiiNFecTEDx 100% they make those crucial decisions they should pay for those not the ppl that don't have a choice

[@williameldridge9382]

@@DioxideCad here's the problem with that logic. It WON'T save their jobs. Bungie was an 1100 employee company at the time this all happened. Even if the executives gave up their entire salary, it would've added up to PENNIES in the pockets of the lower employees. People don't understand how little the executives' salaries impact a company's bottom line. It's a drop in the bucket. That dude at Nintendo didn't save anybody by doing what he did. His thinking was flawed and it was a PR move, pure and simple. A game or company doing badly isn't always due to bad management. In fact, it rarely is. It's usually due to changing economics that can't be overcome. For example, one thing they talked about in here was the revenue loss. The revenue projections have come out and they were VERY reasonable for a company of that size, and still the company missed it. They can't MAKE players buy stuff.

[@ShortThe1st]

Damn that's one hell of a lineup for a non Destiny podcast for all things lol.

[@humanactivated1017]

This is huge , I’ve never seen this many celebrities in once place since academy awards

[@thenedsmmachannel8970]

These are D2 content creator allstars right here lol

[@WilsonTxmp]

The completionist finished his last achievement "get canceled"

[@pwyll63627]

Fym "cancelled". The motherfucker commited a felony specifically Charity Fraud.

[@pseudipto]

lol fake charity

[@blaarfengaar]

His finally got the platinum trophy for being a content creator

[@jibbibious]

If the irs is involved it’s more than getting cancelled. There could be legal problems

[@GeremyG]

How kind of SkillUp to spare the other hosts from the larger D2 talk.

[@parasoft9388]

So true 😂

[@ViewtifulJae]

God bless him

[@VVVV88-x3u]

He knew better. They aren’t masochists.

[@peterhodges3106]

They did talk about it though lol.

[@shujima0666]

I see 5 losers in the comments.

[@crabulonsix9162]

Do you think Jirard was counting the scam charity money before the podcast or after?

[@The.Nasty.]

Lmao

[@veritas4230]

came here looking for comments like this and was not disappointed lol

[@Theinvalidmusic]

How on earth does Byf manage to just sound totally broadcast-worthy even when just talking off-the-cuff? Dude has a voice like silk.

[@ShirleyTimple]

You're just a good little loyalist

[@popcornfilms1]

@@ShirleyTimplehe is. Good little brown noser.

[@BatteredWalrus]

​@ShirleyTimple why do you have to be negative for the sake of negativity let the dude enjoy their thing

[@YourBlackLocal]

@@BatteredWalrusI think they’re joking… I doubt you’d call someone a loyalist if you’re trying to be mean about it.

[@pascalsimioli6777]

Compensation for his looks I guess

[@Raskarkappak_]

Welp that bit about Open Hand aged poorly... Hopefully you guys will do the right thing.

[@starkiller332]

Its such a shame that these 4 legends couldn't meet and collab under different circumstances.

[@rp2974]

3 losers and Ralph?

[@LividCreature]

@@rp2974kiddo, go look at their subscriber count and come back and retake the test.

[@americoechevarria8387]

Legends? They just play video games bud… relax

[@mrblts]

@@americoechevarria8387maybe learn more about byf bud.

[@deusvultpictures6550]

Take a shot every time Byf says 'sit there and say x'

[@Onigure]

Jirard... Really? In your late mother's name? That's a completely new low I couldn't even have imagined could exist.

[@bf2ryan]

This next episode about to be SPICY

[@swilt88]

Can we talk about The Completionist “Charity” next episode and how they haven’t donated a single cent to charity in 10 years despite accruing over 600k? Karl Jobst - This Charity is Lying to You

[@Alesthes]

Not only they must talk about him, he needs to go, full stop. What he did with his "charity" was horrible and dishonest. And to be honest, he was already unsufferable in this podcast anyway...

[@reanimatorpl]

Yeah, just watched a video about it. But the money are there, just not being given to anyone. We deserve at least an explanation.

[@derekrequiem4359]

@@reanimatorpl Correction: the IRS documents *claim* that the money is there, and Jirard *claims* the money is there. We do not have *proof* that this is actually the case. Fortunately, this could be easily remedied, as it would be a super simple* matter of showing a bank statement! * That is, *IF* the money is still there. If not........ hoooooo boy, buckle up everyone. 😅

[@Riskbreaker2009]

He made operating expenses? In what??? He needs to disclose in what every dollar was spent!

[@crypt9412]

Jirard makes me sick. Misleading people in the name of helping people with alzheimers, what a rat.

[@seki1434]

Brace yourself. Comments about Jirard are coming.

[@Zood94]

SkillUp first drama, and it's not even him 🤣🤣

[@zacharia1446]

The Open Hand was caught in the cookie jar

[@mrrandomdude4291]

😂

[@borachon26]

That's funny dude! 😂😂😂

[@Bootlickerkicker]

😂😂😂

[@flavioy2f]

Jirard Khalil everytime he received donation money: "ANOTHER ONE!"

[@dark_winter8238]

I will never watch an episode with the completionist on it again.

[@mihinduwijayaratne5367]

Just a reminders fellas, don't blame Ralph, Lucy or Jake for Jirard's little fuck up.

[@mroutcast8515]

Why not? Podcast author who pals with all sorts of losers without any validation? Why did they even invite this snoozefest prick?

[@kaspian4323]

Completely reasonable not to do a full background check on everyone. They couldnt've known about the scammer. Also completely reasoable to be angry if he is still a part of the podcast in the next episode @@mroutcast8515

[@pseudipto]

not little, guy used his dead mom to scam people out of their money, thats some low shit

[@RobbieB2606]

I wouldn't call $600k of stolen charity money 'little', but I agree with you sentiment. I'm sure they are as shocked as the rest of us.

[@Dogtrio]

​@@RobbieB2606yeah its probably totally gone but if not then i think its probably just severe incompetence

[@dp2791]

We raised $81000 for dementia research. 🤑

[@derekrequiem4359]

pov: you're just here for all the comments about Jirard's drama 🍿

[@Suikojunkie]

Just here for video games. Y’all very sad people who are on the internet to feed off drama. I do hope they let him go and i won’t comment further because it’s simply none of my business.

[@99mage99]

​@@Suikojunkie LMAO 'I do hope they let him go'. You're so soft bro. The guy scammed hundreds of thousands of dollars out of people in the name of charity. You're sad and spineless.

[@peen2804]

@@SuikojunkieI know right. It’s insane lol. Sure get him off the show, great, but outside of that like Jesus just shut up unless you’re someone that actually donated. A person doing a bad thing doesn’t change the fact that all these commenters are insecure losers that need to repeat the same basic ass take as nauseam in an attempt to validate themselves. It’s all just merit-by-comparison BS rather than anyone saying anything meaningful. Yes, person did bad and questionable thing. We know. Like really, we know. I promise. 😂 Apologies for the rant, just don’t see very many reasonable takes that don’t sound like they’re coming from a screeching toddler that just want to be angry because they’re bored.

[@raghuvaidya5485]

The next episode of fps will be quite interesting😂

[@GrimJackal]

I look forward to Aztecross reacting to this Destiny 2 conversation on his channel.

[@daSAUCYj1]

😂😂

[@cryxbaby2250]

He's a sell out

[@thrace_bot1012]

@@cryxbaby2250 username checks out

[@YourBlackLocal]

@@cryxbaby2250sell out to who?

[@RicoRich74]

😂😂😂😂

[@ethanethan9575]

So awesome they were able to raise so much money for dementia! How can I donate??

[@El_duderino87]

Don’t, it’s a scam. Jirarg and his family are banking the money. They haven’t foundet anything in 9years

[@ethanethan9575]

@@El_duderino87 mind = BLOWN 🤯 NO WAY

[@melf_hunter]

It's a joke bud

[@El_duderino87]

just wanted to make sure. Sarcasm is hard ;-)@@melf_hunter

[@melf_hunter]

@@El_duderino87 it's okay 👍 dog bless

[@easygoingdude9990]

Byf is so well spoken bloody hell

[@MrJakeasaur98]

its his job to tell stories so not surprising he is very talented at speaking

[@easygoingdude9990]

@@MrJakeasaur98 was he always like this?

[@ShadowSlayr22]

@@easygoingdude9990I would hope that someone who’s done this for near 10 years is pretty good at language articulation. But he’s been like this for a long while. Just gotten better and better as he’s gone along

[@PulseBladeenjoyer]

How does someone improve at being well spoken?

[@easygoingdude9990]

@@PulseBladeenjoyer well off the top of my head one could work on clarity of thought, having good knowledge of subject matter, improving vocabulary and diction, increasing confidence, practicing vocal delivery and even active listening.

[@SweatyNerdforLife]

Hmmm...i feel for Skillup but I hope he addresses the future of FPS podcast after all those Jirard allegations

[@jakkandjing]

Jirard has already admitted that there is an issue with the charity funds. At this point it's a matter of actually donating the funds to a research facility with receipts or the IRS steps in to audit him and finds the money gone.

[@KusuriyaV]

@@jakkandjing Or find the money still there. There are more possibilities beyond the two.

[@jakkandjing]

@KusuriyaV At this point Jirard and his charity organization have made no public response and an attempt to remove the videos was made by the open hand charity. Also Jirard had a heads up via talking with Mutahar and Karl before the videos went up. It should have been super easy to make a statement saying the funds are still there and will be donated to research immediately, or at least very soon. Yet there is only silence. Hypothetically, even if the money is gone, Jirard should be able to use $650,000 of his own funds and donate to a research as promised. But not even that has happened. I'm willing to bet his family that run the charity stole the money and Jirard is trying to find a way not to be thrown under the bus.

[@SweatyNerdforLife]

@@jakkandjing yeah it's just a strange situation overall without much context to us looking from the outside but hoping some sort of justice is served for the folks who donated & participated in these charity streams who thought it was all going for a good cause.

[@jakerogers8130]

Really heartbroken to hear the news about Jirard. This is my favorite gaming podcast. Y'all need to address this and figure out a solution. I can't keep watching if y'all ignore this going forward.

[@theloanranger2632]

Heartbroken over this? Need to find more important things in life junior.

[@Podcir]

Sam is the absolute GOAT! True to his own visions, realizing all those projects no matter what! This is what this industry needs, this is what pushes this industry forward💚🔥

[@drogozi3308]

The thumbnail is quite ironic all things considered. "Now what?" Must be quite a shock to the rest of the crew.

[@arthurg7894]

Wtf don't put this on Lucy, Jake and Ralph until they respond

[@tomlion0116]

Jirard has to go...

[@PDIcomics]

WHERE'S THE MONEY JIRARD????!!!!!!

[@Jprime777]

So I take we won't be seeing Jirard on the next episode

[@sillylittlesheepjax6009]

we will. they wont leave their friend in need. if they just throw him out it means these ppl are fake that leave friends behinf just for cheap pr.

[@ItsReallyJCole]

@@sillylittlesheepjax6009cheap PR? Bro tarnished his reputation and his own mothers name. FOR 10 YEARS

[@sillylittlesheepjax6009]

@@ItsReallyJCole let him explain his side etc. kicking him out is a cheap move jut to save yourself. shill up is fake anyway with his trump supprters and elon bashing

[@JJJBunney001]

​@@sillylittlesheepjax6009bro theyre two very terrible people. Hes allowed to not like them

[@drogozi3308]

@@JJJBunney001 He's right for it*

[@DarthSpiderMario]

Never in my life did I think I’d see Datto, The Completionist, and Sam Lake in the same video, yet they don’t all interact with each other

[@casey8836]

How much did you pay yourself? How many superchats went to your gaming hobby? How many years were you going to lie before being caught? I don't want to see another appearance until he comes clean.

[@casey8836]

Thank you for listening and giving him distance to address the fraud. I'm still waiting.

[@pdpMASTERP]

For the next podcast you guys should interview Gerard on why his charity has been taking people's money for almost 10 years and hasn't actually donated 1 cent to charity 😂🎉🎉🎉

[@ov3rkill]

I'd love to see them discuss this topic too. Seeing as the completionist is one of them.

[@alejandrogonzalezcastillo2008]

Came here to say exactly this

[@Zood94]

@Bliss_TB He addressed it in the new video, and he handled it very well. I'm kinda surprised, to be honest. I was gonna agree with you he won't bring it up at least a week.

[@The.Nasty.]

@@Zood94I agree, it was handled very well. Ralph’s a class act.

[@mikrobyo1790]

friends per scammer

[@80s_Jacket]

Lightfall really made me accept that the Destiny core experience just isn't fun for me anymore and I haven't looked back since. I know it helps them keep the lights on, but lately it seems Bungie is treating Destiny more like a burden than a project they're passionate about

[@robdurfee6861]

I uninstalled it after Lightfall and haven’t looked back. I literally felt better after I did it,I hope they get their act together, but I’m not holding my breath for it

[@Jamal-mq6xn]

@@robdurfee6861 I did too. My money and time is better spent elsewhere.

[@kumbertjoehl-lee8898]

I log into it from time to time. With all the seasonal stuff it kinda feels overwhelming and i kinda miss just going into strikes and doing that. I liked that gameplay loop way more than seasonal activities. Especially if you have like 5 different things showing up. Other than that Remnant 2, BG3 have been keeping me busy anyway.

[@beng6149]

K bye

[@bigatomicsloth3369]

@@beng6149 okay bye, bung. see you next tuesday, mf'er.

[@Joos2000]

I knew this podcast was going to be good when it started, but I didn’t realise we’d get super dev interviews almost every episode. 🎉

[@koboldbiopellet]

that's a pretty stacked guest cast for a Destiny fan!

[@henkken]

I hope this is Jirard's last podcast.

[@drgonzo123]

Damn I love Sam Lake. He’s such a goofy, fun loving guy. I really enjoy the sense of humor in Alan Wake 2, which surprised me. It has such a good balance of horror and meta humor. I’d really like to see an Alan Wake movie someday, but only if the script is written by Sam Lake himself.

[@Riskbreaker2009]

4:20 wheres the money

[@opts1112]

Damn, not as if Jirard did anything on the podcast but sit around and look angry or sad, but i don't see how this podcast can continue with someone who's been blatantly lying for at least a year (if you believe that he didn't know where the money was going) Talk about a gut punch.

[@8Bit-Tunes]

itll continue probably, they will just cut jirard out

[@kaspian4323]

hopefully. Can't see myself watching it if he is not cut off @@8Bit-Tunes

[@Cobalt059]

2:27:40 Well this aged poorly...

[@ronaldbeamon5564]

Jake is such a good guy the holy spirit came through to him to have him ask that knowing the implications a week later lol

[@angelobronte6029]

This was easily one of the best fps podcasts if you were a destiny fan. All the legends just chatting freely about a game they love and hate.

[@holyelliw]

I feel like "Games as a Service" was able to gain a solid foothold in part thanks to that there weren't any massive year of hit video games releasing. When there's only 1-3 games max that the average gamer is interested in playing per year then it's much easier to spend most of your free time playing your live-service game. But when you get showered in 9/10 and 10/10 games your 5+ year old grindfest game starts looking much grayer.

[@Scizson]

@therotten6152 what a great analogy lol

[@JohnDoe-uf3lj]

Hello again, everyone. This situation is one big YIKES.

[@nathandias6771]

Cross really wanted to talk at times but Skillup jumped to the next questions 😭😭😭😭

[@bluepiggaming204]

Jirard. Wheres the money?

[@jakkandjing]

Where's the money Leboski!

[@bluepiggaming204]

Found it. Its in his pocket after him and his pops played some golf! "F*** no! Not straight. I put sh*t in the way! Like trees and bushes and high grass. So you can lose you f***ing ball. And go hacking away with a f***ing tire iron. Whacking away, and each time you miss you feel like you're going to have a stroke. F*** that's what we'll call it, a stroke, cause each time you miss you feel like you're gonna f***ing die! Oh great, oh and here's the better part. F***, this is brilliant! Right near the end, I'll put a little flat piece with a little flag to give you f***ing hope. But then I'll put a pool and a sand box, to f*** with your ball again. Ay, you'll be there cracking your ass, jacking away in the sand."

[@paladinpaterson5385]

DUUUUUIDE, those new transition videos are SPECTACULAR!

[@saurlex1368]

Can Gerade address/sort out this charity scam stuff? I'm not going to be able to see him in the same light until it's resolved. If y'all sit around like nothing has happened it's guna tilt me.

[@RobbieB2606]

Edit: Happy to hear Skillup confirm that Jirard has been asked to step away from the podcast. I love this podcast, but I will not watch another episode if Jirard stays on as a host.

[@RobbieB2606]

@@robbowski The latest 'This Week in Video Games' video on this channel - he addresses it in the intro

[@El_duderino87]

@@robbowskiralph mentioned it at the beginning of this weeks „this week in videogames“.

[@Yu7Zi]

4:17 ouch

[@claw333]

I bet comments are turned off the next episode lol

[@Xtraworld]

Man...Jirard almost milked this "Timed Hits" pun more than the donators for his "charity"...

[@Exomious]

Wonder how this group is gonna handle Jirard's little fuck up that's just come out

[@thomashart3473]

Ralph, you're gonna have to drop Jirard.

[@itsaUSBline]

Hearing Gerard very carefully enunciating "timed hits" over and over again at the end there was the funniest thing.

[@amber88565]

Absolute legends of the destiny community coming together on this podcast. Good job, Ralph.

[@andvladtheimpaler]

Jirard hasn’t come out and address all of this, besides talking to Mutahar. It’s looking bad for him.

[@seaniverse]

I know he’s a Destiny guy, but it bothers me a lot that Ralph didn’t even mention that Michael Salvatori co-composed ALL of the Halo music! He was there for far longer than just mentioning Destiny implies…

[@stealthhunter6998]

They also fired other ppl from the halo does. One of the artists who designs like logos literally made the Halo CE logo was layed off.

[@AtlyxMusic]

I mean, it bothers me that no one ever mentions Myth. He was there for far longer than even mentioning Halo implies. Mike started working with Bungie in 1997, years before Halo. Mike was the one who wrote The Siege of Madrigal. If you guys like the early Halo music, definitely look up the music from Myth. That aside, yeah, it sucks that a lot of people aren't bringing up Halo. Mike also was the one who specifically wrote Never Forget, which is a piece that transcends Destiny, Halo, and even gaming to a noticeable degree. Edit - to be clear, I wasn't talking about Ralph in this comment, I was talking about the comments I've seen from the random Destiny fans on Twitter and the like.

[@stealthhunter6998]

@therotten6152 What playerbase isnt toxic at this point... :/ AAA gaming has kinda enforced it with terrible busniss practises and bad game design decisions too.

[@seaniverse]

@therotten6152 I’m not a Destiny player for one, but at least mentioning that he worked on Halo: CE gives context that he was there for 30ish years. Only mentioning that he composed Destiny makes it seem like he was there for only 10-12 years. So… yeah… mentioning how long he worked there is very important to show just how bad of a betrayal this was not just to him, but to the rest of Bungie’s laid off staff. It has nothing to do with toxicity, everything to do with context.

[@seaniverse]

@therotten6152 TWIVG isn’t the podcast, so why would you assume I’ve watched it? I did, but you shouldn’t assume. I straight up don’t remember him mentioning a number of years, but I could be wrong so I’ll scrub through it later… but mentioning Halo still isn’t moot because it does have something other than the implication of time: respect. Destiny is troubled overall with some highlights, Bungie’s Halo games at their peak changed FPS’s and console gaming and at their worst we’re still pretty damn good. This wasn’t in my argument before since I want to make sure he mentioned ALL of the accolades that Salvatori had, not just Destiny, but somehow you’ve misconstrued that into hate for Destiny or something. I love all of the man’s works and just don’t want to see his best stuff go completely unmentioned.

[@reza494]

As I was playing Alan Wake 2 I was already excited for the upcoming DLCs and Control 2 and whatever Remedy is gonna make next. What a game, what an experience.

[@dec222]

By The Light I wish this mega-crossover could have happened in better circumstances. Thank you so much for getting the gang together, Ralph. Loved hearing the discussion.

[@isaiahrawlinson4885]

It would be great to see a follow-up with these 4 after The Final Shape releases

[@johnotron604]

Jorts Per Second Podcast. Cool to see the D2 lads together and hear their takes.

[@Phantomdude]

Jirard needs to be kicked off shillup

[@jakkandjing]

Jirard is not a good friend

[@rahmed71]

Good to see Ralph finally being able to nerd out with the Destiny crew 😁

[@rhyknow85191]

Jirard's gotta go. You guys can't associate with a potential fraudster. It's a bad look

[@Exomious]

💯💯💯

[@ClayMann]

if he doesn't go, I'll leave first. No way I'm showing my viewer support for this scammer. And he's a liar too, on record weeks ago naming the charities that have never gotten a single cent of the hundreds of thousands he's got sat in the bank. That's textbook fraud!

[@El_duderino87]

@@ClayMannhe named them in this very episode. How fucked up is that. He admitted that he nows for over a year now, that tha money didn’t get payed out but here he is claiming that the worked with all this organizations, very well knowning that ain‘t true.

[@ClayMann]

exactly and it gets worse by the day. Now he's trying to DMCA take down the videos covering this and has made no statement whatsoever. I fully expect the news he's been arrested any day now@@El_duderino87

[@veritas4230]

agreed. hurts the integrity of the rest of the panel.

[@VidSpot23532]

The way jake smiled when sam said he loved everything everywhere all at once, i felt that

[@titularhero]

What a weird comment section

[@makasete30]

Destiny players….

[@titularhero]

​@@makasete30hehehe

[@Amputechture299]

Jake's nonchalant handling of the cats tail was perfection

[@sapphic_sleeper]

When was that lol I missed it

[@TheLamppost444]

A friend had gifted me Destiny 2 and it's expansions up to...Beyond Light I believe, or The Witch Queen. He was a massive Destiny 2 fan despite its issues, with well over 1000 hours into the game. I did have fun, but the content vaulting, and their monetization practices, really rubbed me the wrong way. So did their treatment of PVP. It really did give me a feeling of distrust from the beginning, and a feeling of being taken advantage of, in a weird way in which few games have done. Fast forward to now. He played Lightfall and hated it. Ongoing issues with the game still aren't addressed. Monetization is still terrible. And now the layoffs of many beloved staff members, despite $1 billion being set aside for "employee retention." He won't buy The Final Shape, or even play the other content anymore. He's done. I really feel like people who love Destiny 2 and Bungie are viewing them through rose-colored glasses. Seeing them in a light that would have made sense several years ago, but does not fit with the Bungie of today. Sure, there are many great people working over there, but Bungie is a very large developer, owned by a very large company. The overall entity is no longer what it was, or how it is remembered or thought of. Once you grow to that size, eventually, the soul tends to get scooped out. You turn into the modern day Blizzard or Bioware. Genuinely think that is what is happening over at Bungie, and the fans are going through the process of wrestling with these changes. Some accepted the changes, and some can't, and think that we will get back good ol' Bungie. I'd love to be wrong, I hope I am, because I know Bungie is special to a lot of people. It's just that I've been gaming for coming up on three decades now since I was little. I've become somewhat pessimistic after all the things I have seen in that time. Edit: I would like to add that being a modern day Blizzard or Bioware does not mean I think they can't make fun games. I am cautiously optimistic Bioware has learned from their shortcomings in recent games and will make a decent game out of Dragon Age: Dreadwolf. And despite every despicable thing Blizzard has done I immensely enjoyed my first playthrough of Diablo 4. And I am very curious to see what Bungie's Marathon will look like. But being the companies they are today, buying and playing their games comes with a whole host of potential risks on our parts, and at a very high asking price too. 2nd Edit: Also regarding Datto's comments on FFXIV. He is right in that it is a very dialogue/cutscene heavy game, and because of that it is not for everyone. That being said, Square Enix has delivered over and over, on both expansions and periodic content releases. Even in the case of Stormblood, the most disliked FFXIV expansion, it could be said that it's only crime was being a 7/10 sandwiched between Heavensward and Shadowbringers. They know how to keep the vast majority of their players happy, Bungie does not.

[@TeamDRKZ]

I feel your friend I’ve bought destiny 2 and all dlc for my friends to get them into the game. But I’ve stopped raiding since Vow. I’ve taken so many 2 season breaks from the game it’s actually tragic I’ve had almost all of my friend group drop the game cause of everything especially when lightfall dropped but I’m with Cross I have to see it thru for my tragic attempt at closure of the game lol but I’ll hope for the best but I’m done throwing money in the game. I went from playing with friends to a solo completionist it is what it is at this point but I just wished they let them do the changes that would’ve brought players back

[@WilliamLucian]

@@TeamDRKZ My brother and his friends have a great group of players in our guild, we also have a discord where we raid every few days. I think you just need the right mindset of players to enjoy destiny raiding content.

[@dankerbell]

i can tell you're not a long time player because bungie absolutely knows what the playerbase likes, they are incredibly in tune with us, but whether or not they have the desire (or more likely, the capability) to meet those expectations is up in the air

[@WizzlyBearW0rms]

ASK THE COMPLETIONIST WHEN HE PLANS TO GIVE THE $600k THEY MADE TO CHARITY?

[@greenman5589]

Plus the interest accumulated from that much money sat in the bank over the years. Would be interesting to know how much it is and where it is.

[@Slintovski]

@@greenman5589 inflation has eaten more than any intrest a bank could have provided over the last 10 years.

[@Dermetsu]

Observe Jirards body language while talking about his scam charity. Its very telling.

[@kenpachi2607]

Byf looks innocent but his voice gives after hours vibes 😂

[@MrTaylork1]

So actually innocent then.

[@conceptcenter4151]

Love this episode! Awesome to have you four united and discussing D2!

[@Atlas-zp9nq]

Removing content from destiny that people spent the hard earned money every season 100% caused its down fall

[@consorte101]

Alan Wake 2 is a fucking masterpiece. There is NO other game like it. Sam Lake has truly impressed me with this one and I CANNOT wait for Control 2 and where they go from here. Seriously have me on the edge of my seat.

[@danlaw1991]

Not going to lie, I skipped the main Destiny discussion to make this episode more manageable. The Sam & Kyle interview was an excellent watch. Love the calibre of guests that you’re consistently getting on the show. Also shoutout to the editors because the new transition is great.

[@Cgibbo84]

81k$?! Let's see it Jirard!

[@holitinne]

The way how his friends supported him. “Go check out Indieland, it’s awesome!” He made them look like idiots! They’ll never forgive him.

[@shinramiddlemanager7949]

Not listening to another second until the scammer is gone.

[@DanteMasaru]

The profound and articulate commentary during the Future of Destiny 2 was pretty engaging. And such discussions are as per usual on the FPS podcast. The three guests that are seen as three of the pillars of the community echoed a lot player sentiment, especially for me, personally. I especially appreciate Byf in all of his insightful takes. Especially one take in particular about how the people that are in the know about what's going on at Bungie presently are in the minority. He's right about such a thing being a shock to people (some still don't believe it) because I've stated that as well and got huge intelligence-insulting pushback from it.

[@Liatin1]

jirard is sus

[@NewMateo]

Man. It must suck realizing one of your friends committed charity fraud.

[@ClayMann]

the real question is do they continue to work with him and put their name in support of a scammer and expect all the viewers to do the same? We'll see, I suspect he's going to prison anyway as fraud is fraud and on that scale that's no fine.

[@blaarfengaar]

Ralph said on his newest video that Jirad has been asked to take an indefinite break from the podcast and I fully expect that to become permanent

[@blueberrydon]

Sam's comment about playtesters leaving the door open when they left the sauna is actually kinda funny because as a finn I almost compulsively closed the door behind me when I was playing myself.

[@coled2424]

byf's voice is fucking magical

[@thehook8921]

There has definitely always been inklings of the divide of actions formed of bungie devs and bungie executives. Searching up the exits many old guard bungie staff took such as industry legends like Joseph Staten and Marty O’ Donnell show the underbelly of bungie decision making. Especially with Marty and his small battles he has with bungie and his own youtube channel. Marty always states as well that the people that made some of the worst decisions during his time at bungie still work there to this day.

[@Retrofire-47]

i can't get over how hilarious it is that Bungie spent half their life under Microsoft's tyrannical grip, waged some kind of guerilla warfare to burn the contract, celebrated their freedom with a literal champagne party, and then sold themselves to the next giant corporation Sony like a cheap whore

[@MylesKillis]

@@Retrofire-47Microsoft to Activision to Sony. All decisions made by the people not celebrating.

[@LieutenantAlaki]

Considering the shit Marty pulls sometimes, I'm perfectly willing to believe that he was more akin to the problem - causing old guard than the little guys getting stomped on. Joe, on the other hand, tried to make a career out of salvaging troubled development cycles, so I'm more willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[@judgementkazzy7172]

​@@LieutenantAlaki The shit he pulls? Really dude? His last tussle with Bungie was just because he dared to have his own music he produced and orchestrated on his KZbin channel. Bungie simps be wildin.

[@discojoe3]

Lmao, Jirard is going to jail! lol!

[@jias333]

Hope you are going to address and clear up all these recent accusations leveled at Jerard regarding his charity and not just sweep it under the rug and allow him to simply remain on the podcast

[@ItsReallyJCole]

Do these people really seem like the types with backbone? But I am genuinely really curious what’ll happen

[@jias333]

@@ItsReallyJCole This podcast is very closely associated with Ralph's channel, I find it hard to believe that he would be willing to risk his brand that he works his ass off to build by associating with Jerard if he is indeed a charity scammer.

[@NinesIng]

@@jias333 We will see

[@BIRDSBIRDSBIRDSBIRDSBIRDS]

You mean levied not leveled, and it's Jirard not Jerard

[@jias333]

@@BIRDSBIRDSBIRDSBIRDSBIRDS I think both are correct but I'll take your word for it

[@michaelpedro2341]

love the new intro and name tags! Stu is killing it and the show gets better and more professional every episode. Thanks for being you Ralph, Jake, Lucy, and Jirard!!!