Destiny: House of Wolves Exotic Weapon Tier List Update

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@deesharmon14
@deesharmon14 9 жыл бұрын
Autorifle:Suros Pulserifle:Red death Scoutrifle:Mida multi tool Handcannon:Hawkmoon Shotgun:Lord of wolfs Sniper:Ice breaker Fusion rifle:Vex mythoclast Sidearm:Dregs promise Machine gun:Thunderlord Rocket:Ghallajorn
@batman-if7yl
@batman-if7yl 9 жыл бұрын
Necrochasm is actually better than Suros right now, as it kills faster. Suros is ruined by its own perk. In pvp Necrochasm is actually one of the best guns out there, but people are too busy bitching about it instead of mastering the recoil.
@sparklez63368
@sparklez63368 9 жыл бұрын
dees harmon i don't think that putting vex mytho in the fusion slot is a good idea seeing as it basically fires like an AR and sits in the primary slot. if it were me I would put plan c in that spot.
@Purpletrident
@Purpletrident 9 жыл бұрын
TheHappyCrafter That's not much different than saying No Land Beyond isn't a sniper since it has no scope and it's a primary. Either way Mytho is still a fusion rifle.
@blidgu
@blidgu 9 жыл бұрын
obvious picks are obvious
@blidgu
@blidgu 9 жыл бұрын
really U put mida and dregs promise in? there are no other types of those weapons so it should be clear xD
@specktech314
@specktech314 9 жыл бұрын
If you get the fire rate going on thunderlord, you can kill people extremely quick. If you can survive the grenades and horseshoes right after heavy spawns, you can pretty much 3v1 if you play your cards right. It's also very accurate over distances too, unlike other machine guns, so I can spray about 1/6 of the clip and get a kill at a distance Jolder's Hammer wouldn't be able too. I'd argue that there's not enough love for the T-Lord. It's definitely got some of the best range and accuracy of a machine gun.
@EnigmacTheFirst
@EnigmacTheFirst 9 жыл бұрын
But in order to get to that high fire rate to take people out fast you need to waste ammo, which isn't preferable.
@specktech314
@specktech314 9 жыл бұрын
I wasted none. Fired at one person, then another, then the third died as soon as I pointed at him.
@devlinsheehan9665
@devlinsheehan9665 9 жыл бұрын
HELL YEAH THUNDERLORD IS ONE OF THE BEST, THIS GUYS IS AWESOME!
@theLoveRocketjr
@theLoveRocketjr 9 жыл бұрын
Christopher C Still waiting to fix mine up. Busy fixing up my Ghorn. When thats done, I'll get to work on fixing that gun up right away. Got it from the Nightfall the same day that Xur was selling it. Good thing that I didn't buy it first.
@lp.shakur
@lp.shakur 9 жыл бұрын
Get a kill at a distance jolders couldnt? Are u kidding me dude, my jolders snips over the whole map, when theres heavy I atleast always get a 5 streak. I am not able to do this with my thunderlord. Still love both, but jolders is far more powerful in pvp.
@vexshinji8369
@vexshinji8369 3 жыл бұрын
At 0:36 you were fighting the imperial army and the fleet army.
@Friggazee
@Friggazee 9 жыл бұрын
I do like that you reevaluated the other Exotics as well as the new ones. It puts all the reviews in one convenient place. Thank you.
@pewihelion
@pewihelion 9 жыл бұрын
Short, sweet, and to the point. Very thorough review, love it. Great video Datto!
@samfisher6668
@samfisher6668 9 жыл бұрын
Can you do a tier list for the armor?
@SoulofStalker
@SoulofStalker 9 жыл бұрын
Gjallarhorn should be S++
@ElitGaming117
@ElitGaming117 9 жыл бұрын
I'd say at least an 'A' for the bow in pvp
@actionpacked5825
@actionpacked5825 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Now can you do new exotic armor tier ranks? Love your content datto and thank you!
@JSSTJRodriguez2010
@JSSTJRodriguez2010 9 жыл бұрын
Great vid Datto. Very concise with excellent explanations.
@nukeurcola
@nukeurcola 9 жыл бұрын
.universal remote is an absolute beast in trials datto, me and my friends ran universal remote and a sniper of your choice. It surprised many people on how effective it actually was and no one changed their tactics accordingly
@maddhatter6551
@maddhatter6551 9 жыл бұрын
I've actually been seeing a lot more people use and crush with the No Land Beyond in PvP. I know a few people that use it in Trails every week and go flawless using it. It is a great weapon if the person using it knows how to use it. I would like to see Bungie do something so shotguns and hand cannon don't rule over PvP. I really miss playing PvP and see people using all different kinds of weapons. Some people using hand cannons which have always been my weapon of choice others using auto rifles some using shotguns and others using fusion rifles. I was in the fusion rifle camp. I just was never a huge shotgun PvP person. I didn't get a fusion rifle from playing PvP with a pretty fast charge along with replenish and hot swap. Hot swap is actually a pretty cool perk that has a counter so you can see when it runs out. Shotguns still rule though. I just want to see more variety in PvP and not only hand cannons and shotguns and sometimes sniper rifles.
@sQueezedhe
@sQueezedhe 9 жыл бұрын
Split shifter pro with accelerated coils and hip fire is super deadly at just-outside-shotgun range.
@maddhatter6551
@maddhatter6551 9 жыл бұрын
I got acc coils replenish and hot swap on mine hot swap seems like a really good PvP perk for fusion rifles.
@EpicLegendzz
@EpicLegendzz 9 жыл бұрын
Madd Hatter I use NLB a lot (not in ToO though because my team just rejects my for this) and some people greatly underestimate you when taking it in. It requires super good aim though, sort of like a finesse weapon, which is I guess why I like it.
@maddhatter6551
@maddhatter6551 9 жыл бұрын
That's why my friend uses it in ToO cause people think they can run him over until he crushes there team. I haven't been able to find a team to run ToO with since week one when I got my ass kicked. People on LFG want money to cause they guarantee a flawless run or people only want people with more than one flawless run which I don't even have one. I would love to get one of the cool adept weapons or even the rocket launcher and some cool armor
@EpicLegendzz
@EpicLegendzz 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah I gave up on ToO 2 weeks ago. I like to think myself as competitive but some games I just can't play competitively (like Destiny) and just for fun. I wish you luck on finding a team but unfortunately I can't help you on that :/
@theoldheartburn5219
@theoldheartburn5219 9 жыл бұрын
I find that super good advice is good for pvp because if you are careful and you don't die you can save a lot of ammo and still have heavy ammo when the next heavy ammo comes up.
@nsrw7829
@nsrw7829 9 жыл бұрын
*Queenbreaker's bow can 1-shot in pvp with weapons of light* do with that as you will
@izorsky
@izorsky 9 жыл бұрын
A Condescending Archen any sniper with ok impact can One-Shot with weapons of light, it's not exclusive to the bow.
@abdullzubair
@abdullzubair 9 жыл бұрын
A Condescending Archen That's not anything special. All mid to high impact snipers are one shot kills with weapons on light in pvp. That means LDR, Longbow Synthesis, Efrideets spear, Her Benevolene, Icebreaker, Black hammer, Shadow of veils, and Supremacy are all better options in pvp that do the exact same thing
@devlinsheehan9665
@devlinsheehan9665 9 жыл бұрын
That's what I use when using qqb
@robertfouch3296
@robertfouch3296 9 жыл бұрын
So can the ldr 5001 really any sniper with good impact.
@deargdyavol1822
@deargdyavol1822 9 жыл бұрын
DattoDoesDestiny I know you probably get this a lot but I have a cool idea for an exotic rocket launcher. It's called Jack-in-the-Box and it's default perk is that it deals a random elemental damage type. (One shot could be void and the next solar or arc.) It has max velocity, decent blast radius, low rate of fire, stability, and reload. It holds 2 rockets and the first perk would be the tracking perk. The exotic perk would be titled jack-In-The-box that upon reloading the magazine has a random chance to hold 4 rockets instead of 2 and rockets explode a second time at the point of detonation for about 1/3 of the rockets damage.
@johnc6497
@johnc6497 9 жыл бұрын
I feel like U. Remote is more of a C-range weapon than a B. Esp. for PvE because it takes up the coveted Exotic/elemental primary slot
@pzeise
@pzeise 9 жыл бұрын
Good list! Thanks for the run down Datto :)
@XxDEDEYExX
@XxDEDEYExX 9 жыл бұрын
super good advice is great for the oracles in VoG because killing oracles doesn't count as a hit so you effectively have infinite ammo.
@BasileBeaty
@BasileBeaty 9 жыл бұрын
Datto, this is great for new and vet players. Good job.
@Richtastic1983
@Richtastic1983 9 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I cant argue with your grading other than that original B+ to NLB, oh Datto you kidder lol. Can you believe I have had this game since Day 1 and there are still exotics I dont have, like 4th Horseman. ugh. Anyway I dont really have anything to debate on as I pretty much agree with everything you said. Thank you for the amazing content. I hope one day Autos get some love again, Suros was my first exotic and does hold a special place in me heart lol.
@JMD1337
@JMD1337 9 жыл бұрын
I love my bad juju. It's pretty good in prison of elders especially in the have area. The automatic reload when you get kills helps whip out the annoying thralls and acolytes pretty quickly
@draven_sword7092
@draven_sword7092 9 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear your opinions, and while I feel slllliiiiightly different about a couple of your decisions, I can say with 100% certainty that Thunderlord's recoil should be buffed ;P If you're not using Ext. Mags, you're doing it wrong. The recoil, however, makes it nearly impossible to aim at a boss's crit for the whole 60 round mag. I guess I have a soft spot for it because it was my first exotic ;D All the ogling from my friends because I was one of the only guys to have an exotic :'D (that wasn't sold by Xur) lol, good times
@dreyreleford6640
@dreyreleford6640 9 жыл бұрын
I learned that the Queenbreakers bow is a lot better than you think lol
@EnigmacTheFirst
@EnigmacTheFirst 9 жыл бұрын
I think people over value it too much. It's in the same boat as NLB; a great weapon if you know how to use it. Statistically you're putting yourself at a disadvantage with it because using any other sniper allows you to do the exact same thing but better, being able to kill people instantly as opposed to having to wait for a charge time. Don't get me wrong, it's a good gun, but that's really only if you're up against crap enemies. I can do with the QBB what I can do better with the NLB
@dreyreleford6640
@dreyreleford6640 9 жыл бұрын
People are using it like a sniper, you shouldn't use this gun like a sniper because most of the time you'll lose. Use it like a fusion rifle, it has good hip fire accuracy and you can one shot people to the head with it. You're not getting anywhere using it like a sniper. I'm not over valuing it at all, people should just use it correct. Act like its a railgun or something
@mohammedjawahri5726
@mohammedjawahri5726 9 жыл бұрын
***** the thing is,it's not very reliable..what if u miss that close range hipfire headshot ?,u're dead
@jacobgolder6
@jacobgolder6 9 жыл бұрын
It's a close to mid range sniper, which people don't understand. Close enough that a sniper has a hard time looking down his scope, but far enough that a regular fusion rifle can't kill you.
@MrCJ1988
@MrCJ1988 9 жыл бұрын
Mohammed jawahri ya 7lu, wsh tswi hena?
@LtSprinkulz
@LtSprinkulz 9 жыл бұрын
Dregs is actually really good in PvP. If the whole burst crits then it one shots. Combine that with Grave Robber, Field Scout, and the special ammo situation? A melee build suddenly sounds kick ass. Skullfort, shoulder charge, Dregs Promise and a steady hand = fun.
@alexanderjosmith
@alexanderjosmith 9 жыл бұрын
SUPER helpful, thank you so much for making this!
@theorginalweirdo9191
@theorginalweirdo9191 9 жыл бұрын
I actually like the sarcastic pop in with the text. its very you
@eilrahcr7173
@eilrahcr7173 9 жыл бұрын
Great vid datto, can you do an armor tier list for each class? Im intrested how you think something like perigrine greaves go up against armamentarium. Thanks
@nikoathanites9151
@nikoathanites9151 9 жыл бұрын
I think universal remote should be A+ or S for PvP once you get used to how it works you can dominate on certain maps. On twilight gap I got an 8900+ point game without blink (I was on gunslinger), throwing knife is a dangerous combo with it
@Designation6
@Designation6 9 жыл бұрын
When the Icebreaker footage was shown, you had a Stat Boost in the bottom left. It happens on my warlock as well and I'm wondering what it's about.
@coreymartin4875
@coreymartin4875 9 жыл бұрын
I use Suros Regime on my warlock in PvP and it is so overpowered! It is a definite kill if you hit all your shots or if the enemy doesnt expect you you can get a solid two kills at once!
@Soggybread1502
@Soggybread1502 9 жыл бұрын
why did bungie do with Fate of all Fools and that vesta dynasty scout rifle?
@BlinkLegendz
@BlinkLegendz 9 жыл бұрын
Nothing they were never meant to be in the game
@Ruair0992
@Ruair0992 9 жыл бұрын
They were never put in the game, they were data mined so it was all speculation, at least that's what bungie says
@noluckniko8088
@noluckniko8088 9 жыл бұрын
No one knows. Only one player has FoaF because Bungie is very nice. They might've taken out of the game so it holds significance.
@vishnusaravanakumar1623
@vishnusaravanakumar1623 9 жыл бұрын
They said it was there for no reason and they were just toying with the idea of new weapons Luke smith revealed this in the eurogamer review
@TheHarsh264
@TheHarsh264 9 жыл бұрын
Apocalypse99 That dude luke Smith told Eurogamer that they haven't introduced it in how.
@Chrishdez1
@Chrishdez1 9 жыл бұрын
I got Thunderlord today and I'm so happy!
@Spatan295
@Spatan295 9 жыл бұрын
I gotta agree with Bad Juju being much better than it was before. It's good for mid-range engagements, but it's almost as good as any scout rifle on the big maps because of it's really great stability. What do you think of it on the larger maps?
@Sylar18
@Sylar18 9 жыл бұрын
The suros depends on who uses it with pvp with all other weapons, as I use the suros and still manage to outgun the hand cannons in trials
@xxzeta
@xxzeta 9 жыл бұрын
Do u know if auto rifles are now the non used weapons??? Like is it true?
@blazeentertainmen100
@blazeentertainmen100 9 жыл бұрын
Im guessing you bought destiny late... Its true, I don't know the exact stats but u can find it online
@DafyddWillz
@DafyddWillz 9 жыл бұрын
If you look at the stats, ARs are still used more than PRs and SRs. I have no idea why they're used more than PRs which are much better than them in almost every situation right now, and some SRs can be considered to be better versions of ARs (Deadshot Luna SR1, NL Shadow 701X etc). It's silly, but they're still used more.
@Primizzle
@Primizzle 9 жыл бұрын
David.la.trolla Unfortunately they are.. and that's Bungie's fault when they nerfed it to the ground. Auto Rifles need a buff to increase their usability, especially the ones with high RoF and low impact.
@LyfjaSSB
@LyfjaSSB 9 жыл бұрын
David.la.trolla AR's were completely killed. They got nerfed so hard that the class lost it's throne of most weapon kills in PvP.
@LyfjaSSB
@LyfjaSSB 9 жыл бұрын
Alfredo Fatale This is pretty much an accurate description on how worthless they are now.
@majentmusic
@majentmusic 9 жыл бұрын
idk why, but that nice shot made me laugh soooo much
@TheSurefireGamer
@TheSurefireGamer 9 жыл бұрын
I say Truth deserves to be S+ Tier in PVP. That aggressive tracking and blast radius was a huge help in my Thorn Bounty, and honestly can change the pace of a match with a key lock-on.
@ShiningNova1
@ShiningNova1 9 жыл бұрын
The SureFire Gamer But you could have thorn or the last word equipped... And you can only use it when heavy is available... scrub
@TheSurefireGamer
@TheSurefireGamer 9 жыл бұрын
Shining Nova I'm called a scrub when you're advocating the use of Thorn? Funny guy. BTW, Red Death says hello.
@ShiningNova1
@ShiningNova1 9 жыл бұрын
Red Death is good, but not good enough.
@firestar4886
@firestar4886 9 жыл бұрын
Shining Nova same could be said for thorn and last word in pve. Gjallarhorn and Truth are miles ahead of both.
@ShiningNova1
@ShiningNova1 9 жыл бұрын
Meowdude23 Which is why Datto gave different tier rankings for PvE and PvP...
@whosZazzy
@whosZazzy 9 жыл бұрын
Datto even though you said that Universal you would not hear arguments but in PvP with a warlock or hunter (mainly fast twitch hungering blade) it can be used to and extremely consistent and good level if you just go for melee afterwords I suggest trying it
@joelmpott
@joelmpott 9 жыл бұрын
Mostly agree. I didn't believe this until I tried doing a trials. Thorns are literally everywhere. As a casual player, this puts me at a serious disadvantage to the point of where I am not even able to compete. Yes, exotics should allow the wielder a unique skillset to use that they wouldn't have otherwise, and that players should be rewarded for their dedication in obtaining an exotic, but please offer an avenue to counter those exotic weapons with other exotic items. Basically, provide check and balance system for each exotic weapon using either another exotic weapon, or armor.
@fj7509
@fj7509 9 жыл бұрын
When will the armor tier be coming out?
@lashi5526
@lashi5526 9 жыл бұрын
Het Datto! You should make video about good legendary weapons, because you know, you can only use one exotic gun. Just couple primary, special and heavy weapons, and why them are better than others.
@robclower9606
@robclower9606 9 жыл бұрын
Pretty spot on, 100% agree on these.
@Dunespire
@Dunespire 9 жыл бұрын
Great video Datto, Thanks.
@thisisnteric976
@thisisnteric976 9 жыл бұрын
TBH I believe that Ice Breaker will become a thing of the past due to the fact that with the new patch that will increase the time each bullet takes to regenerate from a bullet every 5 seconds to one every 8 seconds.
@Dragarius
@Dragarius 9 жыл бұрын
I know universal remote is not a great shotgun but it lets you use shotty snipe combo. Thats awesome!
@nathanredmond4305
@nathanredmond4305 9 жыл бұрын
I'd like to say that your list was really great and I would agree with everything, but actually, I find No Land Beyond to be alright in PvP if you are a good sniper. For me, sniping is my strong suit, so I can pretty much guarantee a headshot in a 1 on 1 encounter 80% of the time. Although the perks are (I have to admit) pretty lame, it is arguably an ok weapon for crucible. Although, the fact that it takes up an exotic spot is completely ludicrous. Especially when that exotic spot could be filled with weapons such as Red Death, Last Word, or Thorn. But still, if you are a good sniper and really just want to have some fun in PvP the No Land Beyond is a fun way to do this.
@niklasvilkko9990
@niklasvilkko9990 9 жыл бұрын
Just got my first Gjallarhorn! Im so happy!
@chriswnek8485
@chriswnek8485 9 жыл бұрын
It should be said that SGA is A-S in the niche role of Oracle killer. Fun to use for the Atheon fight.
@TheOfficialShelby
@TheOfficialShelby 9 жыл бұрын
Just noticed you were playing vs Tefty in PVP lol nice !
@Oscar-hv5lx
@Oscar-hv5lx 9 жыл бұрын
Amazing job. Thank you for take. You time and make this video
@ahhhhh151
@ahhhhh151 9 жыл бұрын
Universal Remote should be at the very least a B+ if not more, its an absolute beast in PVP and a decent shotty in PVE as well!
@bonefat21
@bonefat21 9 жыл бұрын
I miss my Vex. The only time I really use the top tier of weapons in crucible trials, or maybe some small team stuff when the enemies are using thorn TLW etc., but I never use Vex because TLW does what it does but better. The only advantages Vex has is the magazine size and crowd control. And while one kill will allow you to absolutely destroy the second and third players on a small team, I rarely find myself shooting at more than one person despite how grouped up teams tend to be. If you want to try and out-range TLW with Vex you have to use send it over extended magazine, but then you're giving up it's only real benefit. It's like Thunderlord to me: it's pretty decent, but for the times when you would use it, there are other options that are just simply better. And for solar burn in PVE, let's be honest, my exotic there is Gjallarhorn.
@todijj
@todijj 9 жыл бұрын
Hey, are you going to make a taken king exotic tier ranking list? Just wondering, because I was t to see how all of those fit in.
@catalystGenome
@catalystGenome 9 жыл бұрын
It's good to see someone prevalent in the community finally acknowledge how broken handcannons are currently. Here's to hoping it won't be another 4 months before Bungie decides to fix them.
@hezzr3
@hezzr3 9 жыл бұрын
QBB should be A-A+. Certainly not S-tier, but you can wreck if you learn it and it is quick and easy to learn
@studxmuffin5641
@studxmuffin5641 9 жыл бұрын
I would consider The Lord of elves to be a higher PvP ranking. I beleive and A could be given due to its ability to control an area. In trials this past week for black sheild there were numerous times where my teammate would completely lock down a choke point with the heavy damage spray from lord of wolves resulting in myself and the other teammate to regen if needed or wrap for a pinch
@Watchman.kIvory
@Watchman.kIvory 9 жыл бұрын
I agreed with every evaluation in there... that was great! I do hope they buff auto rifles and give no land beyond SOME kind of use in PvE. Like give it a damage buff like the shotguns.
@blidgu
@blidgu 9 жыл бұрын
no it would be also just fine more zoom and oncrease the ammo to 100 maybe
@8shard
@8shard 9 жыл бұрын
Please do one for The Taken King PLEASE
@MultiLko123
@MultiLko123 9 жыл бұрын
4th horsman should be s-tier in pve, mainly because of poe and ability to kill all tier 2 enemies in one magazine
@UberDragon99
@UberDragon99 9 жыл бұрын
I love how SUROS has a slower kill time than literally the first weapon you touch in the game.
@Badimic11
@Badimic11 9 жыл бұрын
The list is spot on except maybe move necrochasm up a rank because it is an elemental primary making it more valuable than Monte Carlo or hard light
@PraetorianTitus
@PraetorianTitus 9 жыл бұрын
Datto, think you could update the Information text to include a text version of your run-down?
@TestingTesting1
@TestingTesting1 9 жыл бұрын
Great vid - spot on
@louisrhodes5241
@louisrhodes5241 9 жыл бұрын
Disagree with queen breakers bow. Apart from sniper battles, it wins everything. I am insane with this thing and - in trials last week- I got 3 kills per round with this beast. It is really good if you know when to use it and how (not trying to get snipers and poking out while charging)
@GiftedBuddist69
@GiftedBuddist69 9 жыл бұрын
Louis Rhodes no it just doesnt. you must've been playing nooobs
@louisrhodes5241
@louisrhodes5241 9 жыл бұрын
I played about 8 games of trials with it, and 10 games of regular crucible and it only let me down via its flinch, and other snipers. I could outgun thorn in many cases, provided I get the headshot (which is pretty easy)
@devlinsheehan9665
@devlinsheehan9665 9 жыл бұрын
THUNDERLORD is high on your list but maybe A+? S for me for sure, because it's range, stability, damage, and aesthetics are amazing, plus it 4 shots in PvP anywhere on the body (4 body or 4 head no matter what), so if you use every shot and never miss one bullet, get all 3 heavy ammo drops, that's 63 kills, or 42 if it's only two heavy drops I forgot, on top of your super, grenade, primary, melee, and special, THATS A LOT OF KILLS. but this is a very exaggerated situation and this is if your using field scout on it and no weapons of light or anything (although the kill count would be higher)
@Thegamerguy123tv
@Thegamerguy123tv 9 жыл бұрын
Universal Remote is B or B- (PVE) and A (PVP) imo. I wreck with that in Trials and I can use a sniper so I have a shotgun/sniper.
@Sam-gk6kb
@Sam-gk6kb 9 жыл бұрын
Just a few notes: - It was stated in the video that Invective has a slow reload, which is completely untrue. - You said that Universal Remote is "really bad" yet you still gave it a B in both, which isn't a bad grade. - I think you were too generous with The Fourth Horseman in PvP. It lacks range which is essential in a PvP shotgun. Also its inefficiency is awful. - Pocket Infinity - too generous PvP, too harsh PvE. It can spray down some pretty high-health enemies. Can't do much in crucible. - Too harsh on Queenbreaker's Bow in PvE. Definitely at least a B. Also it's good for trials. - Thunderlord deserves A in both. Aim assist stat makes it amazing in PvP. And it's prolonged fire and damage makes it good for bosses in PvE. Apart from that I agree with everything.
@kamranbhattacharya4191
@kamranbhattacharya4191 9 жыл бұрын
Will you be doing an exotic armor tier list anytime soon?
@StefromBurnley
@StefromBurnley 9 жыл бұрын
Having used Lord of Wolves quite a lot in the last few weeks, I definitely think it's an S class PvE weapon. It absolutely decimates everything up close. This week's Nightfall was easy mode with that equipped. If you haven't picked it up yet, then do.
@Miniman05550
@Miniman05550 9 жыл бұрын
i think you might be undervaluing queen breakers bow for pvp
@kaels4643
@kaels4643 9 жыл бұрын
Love it, very accurate to what I believe
@JacksonPRONNESS99
@JacksonPRONNESS99 9 жыл бұрын
Fusion Rifles need to be changed back to the way they were before patch 1.1.1
@xSlySniipzx
@xSlySniipzx 9 жыл бұрын
***** They were made less accurate by making the spread of the burst larger.
@futomon7310
@futomon7310 9 жыл бұрын
Jackson the Pro and Badass why they are fine the way they are now
@JacksonPRONNESS99
@JacksonPRONNESS99 9 жыл бұрын
Futo mon Me, and Datto, beg to differ.
@kittynaptune3461
@kittynaptune3461 9 жыл бұрын
***** No, they were. They changed the firing pattern of the fusion rifle's beams, which where placed based on the "first beam"(yest, they appear too fire all shots at the same time, but there still is a first round). Stability basically meant accuracy as it reduced the spread of the weapon, meaning you could get some mid-distance kills with it, sometimes at hand canon distances even. After the patch, they made the spread on FRs in a way "fan out", similar to how the shotguns pellets are spread out (unless you have shot package). So their range got nerfed indirectly, putting them into the unfavorable situation of being just slightly above Felwinter Range. In the PvE department, this didn't change much at all, though Shotguns with the DMG boost just outclass them nowadays, since FR cannot get critical hits (or h reduced head shot damage, e.g. the Queenbreakers)
@brandoncurry1896
@brandoncurry1896 9 жыл бұрын
Yes they were Bungie increased the spread of the projectiles in the crucible
@cameronszymanski4051
@cameronszymanski4051 9 жыл бұрын
Should this happen...I don't have PoE but I did the nightfall (phogoth) and got the nothin manicals so did I glitch the game or is that possible (I can use them) Please answer Datto
@Qiksterman1
@Qiksterman1 9 жыл бұрын
I would def bumb up thunderlord to an S-tier or at least an A-tier for PvP as it just absolutely shreds much faster than any legendary machine gun and it has virtually no drawbacks
@Amethyst_Spark
@Amethyst_Spark 9 жыл бұрын
A heavy impact machine gun like Thunderlord should be A in pvp at the least, not to mention the accuracy with perfect balance and 60 shots is the mag with field scout. Also built in persistence. Whatchu talkin bout Datto.
@teganwood3311
@teganwood3311 9 жыл бұрын
I think your have a very good point there!
@megaepic3000
@megaepic3000 9 жыл бұрын
My Top 5 Guns Overall Are 1. Hawkmoon 2. Gjallahorn 3. Vex Mythoclast 4. Icebreaker 5. Thorn
@misbehaven1237
@misbehaven1237 9 жыл бұрын
You'll need to redo this list after this new gun update.
@wyboycowboy
@wyboycowboy 9 жыл бұрын
You know, you made a remark about Invective's reload, but it's really not that bad to be honest.
@jpawelcz
@jpawelcz 9 жыл бұрын
I am just wondering what is the S tear mean? Super?
@j05hb3an7
@j05hb3an7 9 жыл бұрын
I only have one question... What happened to Fate of all Fools?
@okaytyranitar6547
@okaytyranitar6547 9 жыл бұрын
I hate how people hate on the no land beyond i love using that gun in pvp i win all the time in rumble
@SMNSWPS
@SMNSWPS 9 жыл бұрын
Dat clip when the Last Word killed in two shots.... No explanation needed...
@dud3rocker17studios
@dud3rocker17studios 9 жыл бұрын
How long does it usually take to do editing, thumbnail, description, ETC if you don't mind me asking
@AzoaR
@AzoaR 9 жыл бұрын
In PvP I say No Land Beyond could be a B or B+, even an A in the right hands. I am pretty proficient with the weapon myself, and although it does take some getting used to, the iron sights make it not half bad, albeit its exotic perk being basically useless. I have faced up against some incredible people in Trials who used No Land Beyond. That weapon is a monster with a bit of skill and practice, but I suppose if you used any weapon for long enough you could probably figure out a play style that made the weapon seem better than it is. I think you might find many more people trying this weapon out, if Exotic Handcannons weren't a thing. Maybe we will get lucky and see their inevitable nerf with the launch of TTK
@solofunk
@solofunk 9 жыл бұрын
Is an armor update coming as well
@maddhatter6551
@maddhatter6551 9 жыл бұрын
I have been trying to use sniper rifles more in pvp. I use P. Revenge a lot but did just get Violator XII with agile scope a perk that gives me a lot more stability and it has Hidden Hand and Performance Bonus which seem like look PvP perks for a sniper rifle. I don't really know how good Hidden Hand works though. I don't notice any change when looking at enemies down the scope.
@sQueezedhe
@sQueezedhe 9 жыл бұрын
Hidden hand makes your gun site "stick" to the target more than without it.
@superavatar2202
@superavatar2202 9 жыл бұрын
Your sniper is fantastic. Keep it
@maddhatter6551
@maddhatter6551 9 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely gonna keep it. I guess I'll just have to use it more to see if I can notice the hidden hand perk at all. So far I can't but I've been playing skirmish on smaller maps so I can ADS for long
@jarodmiller8264
@jarodmiller8264 9 жыл бұрын
Madd Hatter Dude, love the violator, hidden hand doesn't make it 'stick' it (for non-snipers) increases the aim assist so your bullets will kind of magnetize to you enemy as long as you cross-hair is relatively close. With snipers it makes the hit box bigger so you in shots where you barely miss you might hit now.
@maddhatter6551
@maddhatter6551 9 жыл бұрын
Ohhh nice cause I usually miss my sniper shots when I do miss by just a little bit. I can believe I got that sniper with the prefect perks and I didn't even have to reforge it. I do still wanna reforge my old E. spear I got from Iron Banner cause the perks on it suck but I'll definitely be using the violator a lot more.
@celticbhoysmith
@celticbhoysmith 9 жыл бұрын
if you don't mind me asking , was that all in one take? or edited together?
@DattoDoesDestiny
@DattoDoesDestiny 9 жыл бұрын
Jamie Smith Edited together, I wish I had that level of composure.
@celticbhoysmith
@celticbhoysmith 9 жыл бұрын
Very well edited then , thought was done in one go haha!
@MakErbot11
@MakErbot11 9 жыл бұрын
Can you make a chart with all the rankings? DattoDoesDestiny
@ying2837
@ying2837 9 жыл бұрын
I think in its current position Suros is better unupgraded without focused fire. Also auto rifles need a buff. I love my Shadow Price and it still absolutely wrecks in pvp but it is so much worse than it used to be.
@nightwing7233
@nightwing7233 9 жыл бұрын
I'm in top 1percent PvP I use it all the time and get so many kills with it, you need to be good at using it just cause people struggle to use it doesn't mean it's bad it means it for good players
@epicpinoy1
@epicpinoy1 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Datto, when is there gonna be a H.O.W exotic armour tier list
@darthmarr8487
@darthmarr8487 9 жыл бұрын
I stopped playing destiny around April, I was a level 31, and was too bored to grind for Upgrade Items. Is it too late to get back into it?
@jayj5154
@jayj5154 9 жыл бұрын
Why does the forth horseman five bullets? Why not four?
@Rocky4719
@Rocky4719 9 жыл бұрын
WHERES THE MIDA?! my favorite exotic primary doesn't get its chance in the spotlight. I'm kinda bummed
@briandionne7485
@briandionne7485 9 жыл бұрын
If you don't mind me asking, what is "S" tier? super?
@liamdolan14
@liamdolan14 9 жыл бұрын
Do a new class specific armor tier list
@orangegaming3063
@orangegaming3063 9 жыл бұрын
The people who are good with the universal remote in pvp can be extremely lethal it all depends on who is using it
@PantsuTaigas
@PantsuTaigas 9 жыл бұрын
Ever taken a TLord in an Arc Burn? It wrecks face. A at least
@joakoze6383
@joakoze6383 9 жыл бұрын
Exotic primaries should get elemental damage
@mhathable
@mhathable 9 жыл бұрын
Vex Mythoclast
@ying2837
@ying2837 9 жыл бұрын
SOLAR THORN!!!
@PrimeGamerReal
@PrimeGamerReal 9 жыл бұрын
Kegan Ramsey-Hess I think void better fits it
@megaepic3000
@megaepic3000 9 жыл бұрын
That should make a new elemental damage for thorn called poisom
@hartianx1698
@hartianx1698 9 жыл бұрын
Dylan Scott Should Necrochasm/Eidolon Ally/ Husk of the Pit have it as well?
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