Dave Courtney’s Final Interview with Carlton Leach

Dave Courtney and Carlton Leach’s paths crossed many times throughout their years in the London criminal underworld. They have a shared history in the rave scene, old school security, and the inevitable drugs business that came with it.
Dodge has brought them together to discuss everything from building their firms, gangland rivalries, their most dangerous moments, and the toughest brawlers they knew from an era of very handy doormen.
Delving into the duo's biggest regrets and their thoughts on the state of crime as we know it today.
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[@DodgeWoodall]

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[@scottwilson1510]

This would’ve been much better if Dave let Carlton speak from time to time 😂

[@vincentberkhout3713]

Can you imagine how fffin annoyed he must get. Especially when they did that after dinner malarkey. Can't shut the man up.

[@scottwilson1510]

@@vincentberkhout3713 think that’s why Carlton does his own stuff now that would do my nut in ffs

[@scottwilson1510]

@@vincentberkhout3713 this carlton has the headphones on for peace 😂

[@vincentberkhout3713]

@@scottwilson1510 exactly mate.jesus.

[@vincentberkhout3713]

@@scottwilson1510 could you do a night with dave Courtney, Jesus it would be me,me,me,me,me.ffs please dave no more .. Best do your own shows ,I think. You can see he gets a little pissed off over it.

[@tommyhassan3545]

When I found out Dave used to come to South Wales in the 1984 miners strike with vans full of food and bring a few boys down and stood on the picket lines with the miners he gets my utmost respect for that

[@MusicEnthuZone]

Massive respect on that.

[@rub1tan679]

I Met Dave Courtney a few times back in the 90’s .. absolute Gentleman, genuine, generous, very characteristic.. did not give it the “large “at all .. yes there was a undercurrent of menace but that’s the game he was in 🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@mikeb2575]

"They pulled one out of my arse" - "What a driving license?" - absolutely cracked me up, both very funny men 🤣🤣🤣

[@ryanmccarthy1215]

These 2 together really bring each other out! Such a shame we won't get another double interview with them. Some of the things theyve done might be questionable but absolute legends in their own right

[@stevendodd1987]

Love the fact Dodge just comes across like one of the boys getting involved in the talk. Great interviewer, asks the right questions at the same time and just gets involved in the general chat. Brilliant again mate, also Carlton and Dave are top boys the banter is hilarious 👏

[@DodgeWoodall]

Kind words Steven and it’s great you are enjoying the channel 😊👍🏼

[@danielreynolds9940]

I think Dodge was one of the boys getting involved when these 2 were at, as were 10’s of thousands of others….. what a time to be alive that was

[@Daz955i]

Funny as f**k! Laughed all the way through, brilliant!

[@scottiewaters7684]

Yeah they used to turn the cold water off in the toilets so there was only warm water coming out so you had to buy at the bars!

[@dannowestiedanflarty6990]

Nice of dave to let carlton sit in on his interview ....I'd love to see dave and Marvin Herbert on stimulants trying to get a word in edge ways 😂

[@PatronSaintPatTate]

Steven "yea right" French has entered the chat

[@pauljones8218]

@@PatronSaintPatTate oh has he yeah yeah right

[@stevebaker6711]

What a down to earth couple of geezers.. Nice one Dodge.

[@ZenaZee]

What a fabulous interview, was crying with laughter at their raving stories / memories, I was 17 at that time but went to lots of the raves they are mentioning including Genesis, remember the big Genesis on the hill where it poured down and we ended up making a camp underneath the speaker covers 😂, such great times! Thank you, thoroughly enjoyed this! ❤

[@charliewalford3372]

Brilliant. People will look back on interviews like this in 15/20yrs and not understand these sort of men.

[@andylowe4983]

"I MOON WALKED FORWARD"!! 🤣🤣🤣 Used to go raving in Sheffield late ninetys absolutely loved it, tripping on E's wow good old days

[@kai_johnsonn]

In 50 years time we will be looking back on these stories as a relic in history. These guys were adults in the 70s, 80s and 90s, and it's clear that they were one of the last generations before the world went mad with modern technology. Please keep podcasts like this coming for the sake of everyone interested in history in the future

[@DodgeWoodall]

True words Kai 🔥

[@HGee420]

Why? In their day and in their world they were just another face. Nothing to write home about!

[@zerokhaoz4063]

I won't ill be dead lol

[@patkearney9320]

You want history check out a warzone I'd give the same advice to them two relics, if they were decades younger.

[@carson3811]

No there were plenty of real gangsters very dangerous men.. that back then used to do turns .. post offices warehouse's.. importing cars .. then ran security firms went legit made millions.. have property in Spain England Scotland.. but weren't on TV talking about being a gangsters .. every pub had there fruit machines .. guys like Dave or Carlton would have got abit of work of guy's below them collecting debts Mickey mouse stuff.. they were on a different level very intelligent business minded . Were putting money into guys bringing back shipments of drugs . Had contacts in Holland and cartel .. but didn't touch the drugs didn't see the drugs but there names were the reason the guys could meet top guys .. they weren't on TV writing books about themselves.. they were on a different level and invested money to lots of legit things .. and had guys run it sell it make 8 million then make that grow.. totally different level.. publicity is bad for business they made there name were very dangerous made money.. then put it in legit things property lots of different things by the time there in there late 30s they were multimillionaires ..and guys like a Lenny McLean work for them .. they were the guys that write books about themselves sell abit of coke local gangsters so called hard men worked for them.. and you won't see them on podcasts there now living in the sunshine 60 with a 29yr old stunner with property in Dubai Marbella .. not famous for collecting money or doing the funeral for the krays funeral.. or taking coke being a ex football hooligan with a coke habit on steroids and there mates who were causing to much drama got taken away and shot and make move's about it .. there the guys that could make a call get the guys shot taken out .. and not get caught for it they had that power .. legit gangster's that were smart a level above and there drug was making money.. Dave and Carlton aren't that level that's why for the last 30 plus years there income has been talking about being a gangster on TV .. that's not too level gangsters.. especially when in the 80s if you were smart you could make millions then invest that and make it grow .. and Don't go on TV talking about how there gangsters

[@MM-zk7sc]

“Everyone wants to be a dave courtney or carlton leach”… 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@stefzhups-jm8pj]

This podcasts was amazing to see them both together. Top guys both of them and with their honesty loved every second of the podcasts. A big thank you again and hope to see more of them together again,

[@PrinceBhalla-Mavro]

Dodge, another very professional yet much appreciated casual pod you've delivered. The manner in which CL and DC are allowed to feel fully comfortable and confident across the table translates to the honesty of their stories, memories and the protocol they lead and have led their lives by. Great job!! Thank you 😁

[@DodgeWoodall]

Good man Prince and thanks for your feedback 🙏

[@rick063092]

Dave- “It became a number one best seller, which surprised my English teacher” .. ha!! Great line..

[@po3ticjusticemusic381]

A few weeks ago I went to Dave’s place to audition to play the younger version of him. What a great experience 🙏

[@gordongrant894]

Great podcast Dodge , Dave and Carlton are good value and you bring the very best out of them , Thanks bud

[@theunemployedtrucker]

Respect dodge you are brilliant at making your guests feel comfortable and just talk and Dave and Carlton are legends, I have huge amounts of respect for all 3 of you. Please keep up these awesome interviews, respect dodge .

[@robbiehodson1191]

Love the questions you ask here Dodge, they are the simpler ones we all want the answers for. Watched all your interviews mate and they get better all the time. Always leave me wanting a bit more Keep smashing it mate

[@DodgeWoodall]

Really appreciate the kind words fella and lots more to come in 2023. Good man :-)

[@DARRENTRANCE]

I watch alot of different shows on KZbin but gotta say this is becoming my favourite one to watch 👍. Dodge knows how to get the best out of his guest. Even let's them answer and not always interrupting them compared to alot of other shows. Good quality production. Would be interesting to flip it around and get Dodge on the other side of the Mike and here more on his adventures as I bet his got a few funny stories to tell. Not sure who would be best to interview him though. Keep up the great work and keep the shows coming 👍

[@DodgeWoodall]

What a lovely compliment mate and much appreciated about our production which we take huge pride in 🔥 Myself and my team are really enjoying this whole KZbin journey so far. I’ll make sure I’m on the other side of the mic one day 🎙😉

[@mrkipling2201]

​@@DodgeWoodallbecoming my favourite podcast channel on KZbin. You have a great interview technique. You ask a question and then let your guest answer. Without butting in every 5 seconds. I know it's very simple, but so many people that interview other people on KZbin or other platforms don't seem to be able to do that. You do the simple things very well and that's a big reason why this channel is so bloody good.

[@juliasage7923]

C'mon Dodge I'd love to listen to you being interviewed 🙏

[@NorthernMigrationTravel]

I’m slowly warming to Courtney… he’s a good guy with a big heart

[@Tor010]

big arse n belly too, wanker

[@NorthernMigrationTravel]

@@Tor010 He seems like a good guy to me

[@markw6872]

He also goes by the name Tommy Mack. The police give all informants a false name

[@wc2270]

Hes a 🤡

[@patterdale4332]

Your right Thieves and drug dealers are the best

[@kyliebaby1391]

I love hearing stories of the start of the rave scene and how things changed. I missed out (because i was too young)on the start of the rave scene, my late partner (a lot older than me) had similar stories to these guys and in 2000s introduced me to Mitzies, talk about best first experience. I was sold. There was one club left that opened at 11pm until 7am no alcohol, just the best feeling in the world. The whole town still mourns the loss of that club, never any trouble or egos, the doorman were good as gold. I have no idea to this day how I got to work on a Sunday and would have to ask collegues if I’d turned up!!! I wouldn’t change a thing. The pressures of uni study all week then the love of the rave scene at the weekend. Part of the fun was getting the outfits and uv piercings. Unfortunately the pills got bad and ruined the scene. Sad times. Born in the wrong time!!!

[@michaelkelly3638]

Best podcast involving the two I’ve seen. I remember the abuse Dave used to get for being the original celeb gangster. I worked with Terry stone and Dave in club UN and he’s correct. Stone was a self serving pretend gangsta while Dave was humorous and never took himself seriously.

[@oldskoolpaul89]

Painted under the arches black with glow in the dark paint ball spots and the bloody paint melted 9 hours rave heat . My days couldnt stop laughing. Sums some of that era up right up. Great times .. 🕉️

[@robertmarland4696]

Love this podcast. You’re doing a brilliant job. Keep em coming 👍👍

[@DodgeWoodall]

Good man Robert 👍🏼👍🏼

[@juliasage7923]

Another great interview Dodge👌could have listened to it all day.

[@vercetti1753]

I surprisingly really enjoyed this one, wish it was longer

[@HulkHulkster]

I can't dance, i'm shy. Well take a £15 pill. And your not shy anymore. lol

[@dodgerD.....789]

Another classic dodge, you ask some brilliant questions, you get the stories we ain't heard before 👍

[@DodgeWoodall]

Good man 😊

[@mctavish4496]

This video was so enjoyable. I know that not everyone likes these 2 blokes and that's fine, that's their opinion. Personally, I think they're good blokes, who talk a lot of sense. They've been there, done it, worn the t shirt and come out the other side relatively unscathed. I wonder if the youngsters nowadays listen to these blokes?? They could do a lot worse than listening to them and learning some of the lessons of life. Real life. Great video and one of the best on this channel.

[@danielhogg8305]

Never laughed so hard in all my life!😂😂😂😂😂 thanks boys 👏👏👏🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@antonb28]

90s was the last great decade nothing will come close

[@StarBoyyX]

Would love to hear their views on society today and what’s gone wrong and general views on club scene culture etc , great podcast mate

[@PurpleMetro33]

They gave it in this podcast

[@20covo]

Great listening to them well done dodge 👏 another great podcast

[@lewisdowsett8390]

I had no idea at the time that I was raving at events organised by these 2 and Terry turbo at one nation back in the day

[@conradseccombe9635]

Great interview, bring them back for a Part 2

[@DodgeWoodall]

Part 2 ✅

[@imnotavingthat6813]

Theyve been there and bought the T Shirt, could listen to tales like this all day, Long Live Dodgy Dave and Carlton, well done again Dodge. Cheers

[@DodgeWoodall]

They’ve certainly lived Eventful Lives and glad you enjoyed it 🔥👌🏼

[@Bobbibouchersmumwasright]

The whizz will do that. Lol

[@imnotavingthat6813]

@@Bobbibouchersmumwasright can you still get that these days, proper old school party powder🤣😂

[@markysmashup5712]

@@imnotavingthat6813anan

[@andrewmcintosh6398]

Great hearing these 2 sages again

[@mrtoast4740]

Lots of people hate on Courtney but the more I listen to him the more he I think becomes someone who has been there and done it all and had his fingers in a lot of things we certainly won't know about. Seems likeable in all truth, someone who just speaks it how it is! And always liked carlton as well! I imagine there is still so many stories all untold!

[@patricklynch8719]

I thought that was terry Tibbs on the marching powder 😂

[@DJ-Brownie-UK]

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Broken 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@darrenmustin441]

Absolute quality, pisser Lads took me back 🤣🤣🤣

[@Dannydawson537]

You know the more I watch Dave the more I kinda warmed to him

[@Anth93]

Dave is so funny I’m crying at the phone ringing 😂😂

[@leedstown]

Been looking forward to this

[@Jo-jo162]

Another brilliant podcast. 👍

[@nonleagueawaydays]

Could listen to these all days good laugh and good podcast .

[@jerseybeefjerseyci896]

Nice to see When was this filmed ? Not released Keep up the great vids Thank you

[@beverleydowney5183]

There lives are unreal and there storys are hysterical 😅😂

[@dannyshaw9239]

Yes dodge triple whammy here boys..Another top podcast my man well done.Dave and Carlton top blokes crack me up..come on west ham ! Come on west ham!

[@DodgeWoodall]

Glad you are enjoying Danny ⚒👍🏼

[@adamblackburnblacky6493]

This is the best one yet!! I'm from up north and love these guys real recognise real ❤

[@GVGames1986]

That staying awake schedule was fascinating. I guess drugs helped but even so!

[@bretj4878]

Brilliant😂. Another great listen👏👍

[@ian4536]

Yo these pods are soon gna blow up . Straight up 🔥

[@DodgeWoodall]

Thanks Ian 🙏💥

[@GXDmusic]

Quality Episode ! So funny 😂

[@DodgeWoodall]

Yeah some proper funny stories 😊

[@seanb3204]

You're an excellent interviewer Dodge. Loved this

[@DodgeWoodall]

Nice one Sean 🙏

[@robertwalters9652]

@@DodgeWoodalltry and get jack wholmes on here lol

[@StarBoyyX]

Great podcast Dodge , would love a part 2 of the second half’s content and the bit where you ask there best decades and reflections onto themselves and why and the cultures and funny story’s they have in the scenes, they probably have a part 47 atleast in story’s 😂

[@darrensharpe2319]

Dave came down to Pompey years back done a show we went to a after party with him that was a experience I won’t forget…he had two of the biggest geezers I have ever seen and a bloke that looked like jaws

[@peterrose5322]

Paradise next to pyramids circa 2000? I remember “Jaws” on stage with him, but was never sure if it was actually Richard Kiel! Give Dave his due, it was like watching stand up fucking hilarious 👍🏻

[@matthewwlnoronha777]

Love this channel !!!

[@DodgeWoodall]

Nice one Matt 😊

[@zamiadams4343]

Superb interviews!

[@craig0101]

Another good one Dodge, Can honestly see you going far with the podcast game. Be lucky pal 👍

[@DodgeWoodall]

Cheers Craig 🔥👍🏼

[@jasonantigua6825]

Another good one Dodge! Would love to hear your own story sometime!

[@Barberdon2022]

Enjoyed this one 👍

[@adriantowe278]

I have am loving the stories its takes me back to the 90s

[@StefnRose]

Just found this channel was 50 minutes through the Carlton podcast but it’s saying it’s been taking down due to copy right absolutely gutted was getting right into it

[@simetime6045]

Love your work Dodge u do a great job. Regards from Simon in Australia 🇦🇺🇦🇺👍🏻👍🏻

[@DodgeWoodall]

Good man 🇦🇺 🍺

[@henryclarke5363]

great stuff

[@karlwinter6843]

Absolute belter this brilliant craic 💯👍

[@andrewmarr8279]

Stunning content

[@leeparker5827]

RIP DAVE FROM A LEEDS FAN RESPECT

[@treds75]

Great Podcast

[@Arsenallozz1886]

Loving this channel dodge. Also would be interested to know what Carlton thinks of the arsenal lot back in the 80’s. Have many friends down the Arsenal now that speak highly Of West Ham back in the day

[@zerokhaoz4063]

Dodge has absolutely become my fave podcast interviewer I like one at end Dodge said is there anything I can do to help you great way to end the show if I ever seen Dodge in Scarborough for sure I'd buy him the best fry up in town 😊

[@DodgeWoodall]

Nice one fella 👍🏼👍🏼

[@ipanemakid3058]

Fuck the fry up how about some pie n mash 😂COYI

[@joejinnymarks8189]

I love the old rave storys i was 10 yrs too young i hit the pills in 2000 love hearing about them brilliant

[@Dazlad100.]

Chalk and cheese!!! But the same at the same time 👌👌👌 love the respect with the old boys 👌👍👍👍 Awkward at times aswell 😅😅👍

[@charleswilson9885]

Good stuff again, Dodge really enjoyed listening to 2 legends.

[@DodgeWoodall]

Yeah I enjoyed it too Charles 💥👍🏼

[@stevebaker6711]

They did used to turn the taps off in the toilets so you had to buy water at inflated prices though.

[@Scatman1776]

I wish I’d been born earlier than 1993 so I could’ve experienced that era!

[@Trailhiker1]

Word on the cobbles is Carlton used to cut Tucker's hair 💈

[@lifestyleschannel8508]

I know Dave (a true Gentleman and I don’t know Carl but did meet him once through a friend) but I do genuinely love both and Dodge mate you’ve got to do more videos it’s compulsive viewing best channel on KZbin

[@DodgeWoodall]

Will do buddy 👍🏼👍🏼

[@jonathan2755]

He's the biggest waffler ever.

[@mattmorgan4083]

This is great !

[@sajaad3843]

Great podcast

[@strictlyyoutube6881]

Good podcast. Dave is the real deal. My dad was a cab driver in Bermondsey in the 90s and Dave was around those times and he was running things. People think he talks crap but I remember him and his name before the internet because my dad would mention him. He had fingers in many pies.

[@bobbyuk5866]

Nobody in Bermondsey knew who Dave Courtney was.

[@strictlyyoutube6881]

@@bobbyuk5866the average Joe in Bermondsey didn’t know who he was that’s correct. However, my dad was a cab driver, in rotherhithe/Bermondsey. Sometimes people wouldn’t pay debts. In those days as a cab driver you had to rent the walkie-talkie machine and sometimes you could rent cars. In addition to that sometimes cab drivers were used as couriers. Also many times cab drivers were used to take people to night clubs, bouncers and other types of people. So in that line of work you recognised who was who very quickly. They wanted my dad to be part of their naughty world but he told them he wasn’t made for that. My dad introduced me to many brutes as a child. There were muscle for the cab firms. I think in those days you needed muscle at the cab firm to ensure you don’t get raided, because they held a lot of cash. For context we are talking 1990 - 1997

[@anthonymitchell8893]

hairy.minge pie ?

[@ipanemakid3058]

What cab office in bermondsey?

[@bobbyuk5866]

@@strictlyyoutube6881 Nobody knew who he was. He's an actor.

[@mrman9574]

I'd like to listen to Carlton more, Dave jumped on him every time

[@robertjohnston3603]

Well that was a good dave Courtney interview.....

[@boldoniononion1904]

You would never of believed Dave's drug of choice was whizz would ya 🤗🤗👀👀

[@jameslovesbutter2314]

😂😂

[@jshaw4757]

I think Carlton leach is on the next interview...🤣🤣 joking

[@robertjohnston3603]

@@jshaw4757 exactly 😂😂

[@bringriffiths1]

Good watch

[@118dan247]

Nice 1 Dodge keep em coming..loved this..late 80s early 90s great times

[@DodgeWoodall]

Good man Danny 😊

[@mblondon1000]

Great podcast my man. It’s an absolute reassuring that life on the right side of the law works out so much better

[@ChattinBoxingWYB]

Two of a Kind!!!

[@Doublebubble677]

A very interesting podcast this one 👍

[@iainstreeter484]

Another belter Dodge mate 👍

[@DodgeWoodall]

Thanks Iain 👌🏼

[@johnybrett]

Some funny stories again,thankyou

[@sikhboxingsikh3477]

Two top guys that have seen it done it.

[@airforceones679]

Loved it two diamond geezers the old school remember echo's at now flyover DJ tony Wilson paradise club at Angel iremember that warehouse just past bow flyover marshgate lane telepathy had raves in that warehouse I grew up in bow in the 80s imoved away 25yrs ago the east end not the same now everyone moved out it's totally different now...

[@paulb8603]

I remember as a 15 year old going to a field somewhere and dancing all night , the dogs scared me but the door staff we’re actually ok , it’s a summer I’ll never forget, also I wonder who run the door at Berwick manor in rainham Essex

[@jasonantigua6825]

I think it was Joe Stratford!

[@paulb8603]

@@jasonantigua6825 who is joe Stratford ? Does not ring a bell

[@waynegrow]

They looked like doorman you wouldn't fk around with.

[@jasonantigua6825]

@@paulb8603 I think there will be people in here who knows/knew them

[@zamiadams4343]

My mate Paul Rip ran the first parties at Clink St, 1986, house and techno.

[@andrewwalton1427]

Real ly looking forward to watching this later, quality guests again 👌

[@paulwilkins7748]

Legends