DAVE RAMSEY'S MOST INSANE RANT YET! - MY RESPONSE

[@JoshuaFluke1]

Here's the full video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaq5gHygYq6NqNE AND BE SURE TO DO YOUR WORK UNTO THE LORD!

[@badgerden7080]

I would be more than happy. God is a much better employer than Dave would be.

[@mostHumblePersonAlive]

I clicked on this so fast. I love it when DR gets dragged, it makes me happy.

[@BeranM]

I can't help but laugh when I see how obviously angry, annoyed, and perturbed he is over the "work-from-home" trend. He is a greedy, scummy lunatic who seethes with anger. Dave is a kook nutjob who clearly hates anything which gives the commoner peasant working class laborers even the slightest advantage. Dude is a corporate "christian" who I guarantee would despise Emmanuel if he ever actually met him.

[@BeranM]

lmao he just HAD to trot out those zionist talking points. WORSHIP ISRAEL PRAISE ISRAEL ALL HAIL ISRAEL.

[@Roescoe]

This video pretty much confirms in my mind that Ramsey is what the Bible terms "a wolf in sheep's clothing" I can see why you've pretty much rejected religion based on being surrounded by these liars.

[@joshuacalig3144]

As soon as an employer makes a parent child analogy, I'm outta there.

[@badgerden7080]

Indeed. I would go on my lunch hour and never come back again.

[@liquerinfrnt]

"We're like family here! ... we will abuse you. "

[@monharris28]

@@liquerinfrnt lol facts

[@otrebla8944]

@Michael Bolton cold savage.

[@Roguish_nerd]

@@liquerinfrnt oof

[@westpsmity]

As someone who works 4 days home and 1 day at the office, I can safely say that the one day at the office is the least productive one.

[@westpsmity]

@@FinalStooge lol, okay cheif. Your reading skills could use some brushing up though, I said I'm more productive at home.

[@westpsmity]

@@FinalStoogelol okay chief. Your reading skills could use some brushing up though, I said I'm MORE productive at home and LESS so at the office. The reasons are not personal anyway, it's simply the fact that being surrounded by people who might try to strike up a conversation at any given moment can be distracting and takes up time. Thanks for the heads up on not getting too ingrained in "slave behavior", but I think I'm good, you silly fool

[@kiwirooks7299]

@@FinalStooge learn to read bro.

[@eriknervik9003]

What do you mean is, you are fairly lazy and so to punish your employer for making you come to work just once a week, you are stealing time during the one day you were at the office. 6:22

[@retroblonde8075]

@@eriknervik9003 oh please lol your living in the past

[@daveblackman816]

Dave gives decent advice about getting out of debt. That’s about it. Dude is stuck in 1965. But he has a messiah complex.

[@kaseywahl]

Crazy how many jesus people have a messiah complex haha

[@studygroupl6775]

oh wow, work and pay your bills. Dave have said nothing that is complex or can’t be found on the top of the search in google.

[@daveblackman816]

@@studygroupl6775 true lol. But hence the heavy emphasis on “decent” lol. Besides that, his videos are good to laugh at

[@badgerden7080]

They're not Jesus people. They are a bunch of self-righteous devils who probably don't even believe in God.

[@jerrychicks2420]

1965? Try industrial revolution mindset.

[@kingsargonii6939]

All the work from home did was show us that our employers could have let us work from home years ago, but yet they did not want to. It also showed you how many manager positions are actually useless today.

[@lindseysummers5351]

Many of the managers need people in the office or else need to have the regular (daily?) remote meetings just to justify their existence.

[@eriknervik9003]

Repeated studies have found that people are far less productive at home than they are at the office.

[@neuxell]

Work from home and forced covid vaccinations were insanely eye opening. We are literally just human resources to them.

[@faradaysage15]

companies want people to go back to work in person because they're more productive. If they only cared about money and if people did their jobs at home, everybody would be at home and they wouldn't be paying for an office.

[@Mr.CreamCheese69]

Ramsey doesn't even know what remote work even is lmaoo. I bet he doesn't even know online business is a thing, nor free lance work, sales, marketing, ect. dudes clueless on all sectors

[@princessmarlena1359]

Had an insidious boss such as this. He got on my ass because I have a career in theater. I told him “This job I work for you is just that, ‘a job’. Theater is my career and my passion. If you have a problem with that, it’s a ‘you problem’, I have a life outside of this place.” I was able to quit when one of my auditions landed, never looked back. He actually had the nerve to ask me for tickets to my performance, but I blocked his email and number after that.

[@personnesenki4521]

And of course if you had asked for some freebies from that boss, you'd probably never have heard the end of it. I hope you're doing well with your theater career.

[@princessmarlena1359]

@@personnesenki4521 Absolutely, and thank you! I’m doing fine in my theater career! I have Halloween themed performances lasting all this month!

[@richjohn11]

Well done you!

[@dianaverano7878]

Congrats!

[@Mr.CreamCheese69]

I was once fired from my grocery store job because they found out I had a side business. they told me to completely close down the business, or im fired. they said "you gotta treat this place as your career. most of the people here have been here their entire lives, you should do the same". was a minimum wage dead end produce job. like.....cmon

[@xochblue]

How many times has Dave shamed people by saying they need to work more, and get an extra job or two so they can pay rent? You can't have it both ways Dave.

[@robert8930]

you can, you can have 2 jobs if you work 8 + 8/4 hours each day. it's stealing if you get two 8 hour jobs in a total of 8-10-12 hours.

[@ChonnyD]

@@robert8930 How is it stealing if both employers are getting their tasks they are paying for done by someone in a single workday? Why does it matter as long as the work is being done? If an entrepreneur hustles and juggles multiple tasks and jobs they’re considered a hardworking genius. If a worker does it, it’s considered stealing. See the Hypocrisy?

[@robert8930]

@@ChonnyD if the work is being done in 4 hours, then you get double the work. now, the work is done in 8 hours, and you are paid for 8 hours. perfectly balanced. if you do the job faster, then you're a senior/expert at your job, so you are paid better than others that need 8 hours to complete it. therefore, it doesnt matter if you finish in 4 hours, the problem is that you have the same workload as the rest, when instead you should have more.

[@PenNamed]

@@robert8930 and that is the employee's fault?

[@robert8930]

@@PenNamed why should i hire you if you finish in 4 hours and enjoy your 4 hours left when i can pay someone else less and he finish in 8 hours the same task? i get the same results at the end of the day. you get paid more than others, you must work more than others. you're not getting paid more so you can finish faster and enjoy your day, lol

[@JDiggity12]

As a Christian, the fact that Dave uses scripture to try and justify his nonsense makes him and his company next level cringe.

[@kathy3178]

Apparently, he missed the verses on loving your neighbor as yourself and do unto as you would have them do unto you. He also missed the one in Proverbs 16:18 Pride goes before the destruction and arrongance before failure.

[@davestorm6718]

@@kathy3178 He's a CINO. Christian In Name Only. Or, what I call a Fauxian (Faux Christian).

[@AdrenResi]

@@kathy3178 he doesn't love himself haha

[@randomuserame]

"Even demons know scriptures and can use them for their dark purposes" -Somewhere in the bible I forgot.

[@donalny]

Do you ever think he gets to the part about a camel through the eye of a needle?

[@cuterobots1733]

"I love my team" "I'll shut this place down if you try and unionize" feels like love over here 😂😂😂

[@monharris28]

seriosuly lol

[@nervotica7991]

How about: It sounds like HONESTY?

[@Joe-fj6dj]

Unions aren’t always good actually

[@nervotica7991]

@@Joe-fj6dj - almost never, but they'll take all the credit for natural progression.

[@cuterobots1733]

@@Joe-fj6dj You are lucky to have the 40 hour work week due to the history of unions

[@bradchellingworth5973]

My first job, there was a reporting process that took about 1 week per month, compiling various data and creating reports etc. I took this process and automated it (mostly because I hated doing it). So now instead of it taking 5 days a month, it was literally a case of pressing a button. I never told my employer because I knew if I did, I would just be given something else to do, so I just spent that week teaching myself new skills and reading stuff on the internet :) If they had employed me to automate the process, that would be different, but they didn't, they employed me to do the process and the process was being done, also since now it was automated, there was much less margin for human error, so the reports were more accurate.

[@Alex-dt3nx]

Fantastic 😂

[@kylereyes2337]

Teach me, master

[@grasshoppertown]

You get paid for what you know not what you do! If you're intelligent, you understand and realize this and you don't let a holes like Dave Ramsey, pave your life's path for you!

[@brianjenkins2247]

Did this myself at a job my managers were spending 4-5 hours a day on excel reports that took me 5 mins to run with macros. When they fired me due to covid deleted my macro on the way out.

[@brianjenkins2247]

@Ed Smith 100% man.

[@TheLyingFigure]

The only job I've ever been fired from was a restaurant job that paid me a whopping 7.25$ an hour. I was fired because the owner found out that I was working a second job at a fast food place down the road working 10pm to 6am while this restaurant opened at 9am and closed at 9pm every day so my schedules never had a chance of overlapping but he thought working two jobs would make me less dependable. I think the cherry on top was that he tried to make it seem like working for minimum wage AND tips should have given me enough money to live off of. He got arrested later on, the restaurant shut down, and i got a job making more than both those jobs combined a few months later so happy ending at least.

[@dianaverano7878]

Clearly that owner is bad person. Congrats from getting out of that boss. Once your shift is done for the day, the owner of the company should not judge you for having a 2nd job.

[@TheLyingFigure]

@@MrWtfiretruck for 3 days out of the week where my schedules overlapped yeah and i'd sleep in my car between jobs. It only lasted for like 3ish weeks though.

[@OnkelAdiSuperstar]

What a piece of shit owner, lol. God blesses you, friend.

[@wendwllhickey6426]

They don't pay shit that's why they have work 2 jobs

[@supergoodadvice853]

This is the best feeling. I was working a job in a warehouse, the best worker. Up for promotion, and the ass kissing dude got it. Guess what? I quit, and I make more money than the person who promoted them.

[@StarHelix-]

Amazing how this guy used to tell people to work 3 different jobs to get out of debt, now apparently working 3 different jobs is stealing. This really shows that he isn't concerned with helping people, he just wants as many viewers/listeners that he can by throwing out buzzwords of the week.

[@reiniergarcia]

Not overlapping jobs. 3 jobs in a different schedule.

[@hayuseen6683]

Companies should pay you for each job you do rather than expect you to do three jobs and be paid for one. You want me to do web dev? Cool. You want me to do database management? Fine. You want me to be on the phone for customer service? Alright. Pay me 50k+85k+30k for my services. Let's bundle these and give a discount of 5% and say 156K/yr. Companies will nickel and dime consumers for each service but heaven forbid employees get fair pay for all the work they do, that's socialism.

[@TehFlush]

It's only okay with companies that aren't like his, apparently. Only allowed to do it for pennies at pizza hut, not for an actually transformative amount at an office job

[@Syntax-Savvy]

@@hayuseen6683 that's insanely low ball numbers you gave there. Following your model. I need 130k front, 150k mid and 130k database. Then I'm always being given random tech that's not in job description those are 20k a pop. Full stack developers was for sure a scummy way to pay one salary for tons of jobs.

[@joseZudaire]

@@reiniergarcia he's an idiot then. 3 different jobs is the fastest way to an early death

[@Bella.Parabellum]

- You're not entitled to a life outside of work and self-interest. - You're not entitled to breaks at work or weekends. - You're not entitled to working just 40 hours a week. - You're not entitled to overtime pay. - You're not entitled to work from home and save some time. - You're not entitled to side hustles. - You're not entitled to negotiating better working conditions. - You're not entitled to quitting whenever you want. Please tell me, how is this "capitalism", and not an attempt to resurrect feudalism and serfdom?

[@TheCarnivoreSoprano]

Exactly. People do not even know what capitalism is. It's been gone a long time.

[@davestorm6718]

Feudalism. That's the word I was looking for earlier! Thanks!

[@armandosanchez4978]

@@davestorm6718 In Feudalism you only worked half the year, don't compare those two.

[@davestorm6718]

@@armandosanchez4978 - They worked all year long. The off season, they were shipping parts of their harvest and products of the harvest (grain, flour, beer, wine, mead, cheese, wood, etc) to the king's collectors.

[@awesomeness24158]

Capitalism and Feudalism are both permutations of the same free market based system. All extremely destructive both mentally, and ecologically.

[@ussenterprise3156]

This type of “stop complaining, work harder” talk is common in Asia. It’s sad, and I am glad I got out.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

It's a part of US culture too, lots of people work away their lives to buy people like Daddy Ramsey another yacht

[@otakunemesis34]

It's going to kill entertainment culture and the west is high fiving each other over it as they jump ship from American media.

[@erubin100]

@@marcogenovesi8570 you're not wrong, but in countries like China and Japan, it's up to eleven.

[@patcoleman8606]

Asians are so immersed in it that they wish to be run over by a truck and reincarnate to Middle Ages than continue working for those corporations. Let that sink.

[@johnmcnamara8741]

To be fair it’s sometimes valid. The issue is people use the saying to deflect from criticism from shitty work environments

[@briannerk3373]

I AM GLAD that people are finally starting to see the shadow side of Dave Ramsay. His talk of "following scripture" and "being strong and responsible" is mainly used and twisted into being a cover for his infantile greed and narcissism. Dave has been living as a multi-millionaire for decades so it's not surprising that he is out of touch and that the more selfish side of his human nature has been given the ability to be let loose. In Many ways, Dave is proving himself NOT to be a Christian. HE needs to take his own medicine and talk to a pastor.

[@lanzelet7386]

"They don't pay enough!" "Then don't work there??" That's easy to fucking say for a millionaire. Tell that to my old coworker at Subway. She was an 18 year old single mom who was trying to go to school and take care of a two year old. Subway exploited the *hell* out of us and paid us dirt, but she couldn't just *quit.* We honestly should've reported them to OSHA for some of that shit but no one was willing to risk their job because anyone who could afford to quit did so within a few months. Such a privileged mentality.

[@scarysunburns7733]

>18 year single mom Well well. If it isn’t the consequences of her own actions

[@Bruh-ye7dg]

“18 year old single mom” and the kids two!? Skill issue.

[@mercuryfillings8576]

True, but she was living the consequences. She wasn't avoiding it. She just needed to do that to make ends meet. It wouldn't be her fault that the employers were pos. Or you can think of any other example where on top of that it also isn't there fault. Like parents leaving, health issues etc

[@NagoBust]

you should've waited for kids *Skill issue*

[@99allthetime]

ALWAYS SNITCH TO OSHA. You get 1/2 the leveed fine (I made money for a Summer doing just that on Construction sites back in 2018)

[@polyticks04]

The idea that working multiple jobs is "stealing" could be correct, but only if we also recognize it on the side of workers being expected to cover multiple roles in the same company. However, I'm sure he wouldn't see it that way.

[@SuprousOxide]

Only if you acknowledge that you have NO idea what an employee does or how productive they are.

[@ENFPerspectives]

True works you like a slave

[@Bella.Parabellum]

Yup. If an employee is expected to do the work of several departments, especially if it is for the price of flipping burgers at McDonald's, that employer is stealing from his employee.

[@wwShadow7]

Or expected to work harder and faster because someone called out, or they're under staffed. For the same wage. And when they get hurt working harder, it's the injured one who was in the wrong.

[@mrshmuga9]

If you can work multiple jobs at the same time that means one of two things… 1) the individual jobs require very little work to do (and probably pays very little for someone to work multiple jobs) 2) there’s no manager or the deadlines are too generous/non-existent that you end up with large gaps of free time

[@kiseitai2]

The irony is that having multiple jobs is the most capitalist thing to do. This yapping coming from an employer is akin to, dare I say, whining.

[@melissachartres3219]

Come on! Don't you really mean... hwining?

[@AlxndrHQ]

Classic *do as I say, not as I do*

[@puffy_jr7521]

Depends on your pay. If you're not getting paid much then investing won't do much for you unless you hit gold and get a big ROI. Having multiple jobs is one of the most capitalist things to do because in this system having more money gives you more power (use investing as a example)

[@shaunleusby1991]

Dave's point is simple. If you had a 40 hour a week job that went to a stay at home job after covid, you are stealing if you don't work 40 hours at home. You cant do that if you are working multiple jobs. There is nothing wrong with a second job, there is a lot wrong with not working the hours you are supposed to.

[@scholaroftheworldalternatehist]

@@shaunleusby1991 This isn't high school you should be measured by the work you produce for salary work not the precise time it takes

[@craigtheng]

If you get your work done, and then ask for MORE work, your management will realize how good you are at working and block any attempts you make for promotions or other career-advancing moves within the company. They wont want to lose such a great worker. It will hurt your career.

[@99allthetime]

"too valuable to production"

[@kiknchiknstudios8901]

@@RandomKZbin123 You wasn't the best worker

[@whitemakesright2177]

This wouldn't be a problem, might even be a good thing, if they would increase your pay in proportion to your productivity. But they don't, the vast majority of companies tie pay increases to promotions/ job title changes.

[@patrickmcdaniel8123]

This happened to me. Found out after I quit that my boss told the general manager if they ever promoted me he would quit, my work made his job easy. Conclusion = I never got promoted but I always got raises.

[@leekh-a3933]

This is a prime example of my older coworker in my law enforcement career 🗣 I’m a deputy and a lot of old deputies go on rant about us younger deputies want everything handed to us 🤡😂 meanwhile I’m doing the same job at their age but they got to buy a 75k house and I got to live home with my mom bc the housing market is 500k . It’s crazy bc they’re literally lazy and miserable . They literally sit around and cry about life, politics , how bad the jobs is , 2 divorces in 😂😭🤯 if Ramsey had to go to a 9 to 5 regular job , he’ll be the one hiding fr

[@Omniseed]

There's a reason, well more like a thousand reasons, why your occupation has always had a serious public image problem. They're not the only loser boomers/ early gen X who need to shut up and enjoy their unearned privileges if they can't be bothered to help correct the mess their generations have wholeheartedly endorsed over the last few decades.

[@zeroplague]

Sgt here. I see you younger guys coming in doing the work with more calls and less deputies. I do my best to handle the minor calls in between my supervisor duties.

[@Awaken_To_0]

Be careful whenever someone loves to talk about your divine obligation to them and never about their obligation to you.

[@aureyd2515]

Yes, you'll never hear them address any of the details of what the biblical "Jubilee" actually entailed.

[@99allthetime]

This is why they love the Jews and (like the Jews) use only the parts of the Christian Bible that benefit themselves

[@birdjericho]

He'll sing all day about the worker being a child, but never about how their position as an employer should resemble a responsible parent in ANY way. Except for "loving" their children as they kick them to the curb when they complain, I suppose.

[@erin-shhmerin3704]

Yup. You can't get mad and tell people "well, don't go work there", then get mad when people quit and "don't go work" there anymore. He contradicted himself.

[@katwilliams2950]

This! He does this often. My thing is that if the amount of work you give me is done in less time where they can work elsewhere obviously that means you could increase production. That's on you for not giving enough to fill that person's time. Work smarter not harder

[@Seattle-2017]

The guy write a financial help book, but then gets upset when people help themselves financially by taking two jobs.

[@mrshmuga9]

It sounds manipulative. Like he’s calling their bluff “go work somewhere else”, hoping/thinking they won’t actually leave so they’re stuck living under those tyrannical rules. But when they do/can actually leave, then weak, pathetic, or whatever other insult because now he has to find and possibly train a new employee. Because quitting is much more of an issue for the employer than the employee.

[@erin-shhmerin3704]

@@mrshmuga9 Yes. It’s kinda like how’s that “right to work” mind set working out for ya?! They don’t seem to realize it goes both ways.

[@WillmobilePlus]

Did he "get mad"? Nooooooooooooooooo.

[@ellvtv2314]

If an employer makes me complete tasks that would usually take 3 people to complete without the equivalent salary of 3 people, it's stealing in my book.

[@richhornie7000]

If you produce 1 million dollars of excess profit for the company and only get paid 100k, that's stealing in my book

[@taia-b8f]

You know you're watching bullshit when you have a show with two hosts and at no point they disagree with each other. That means that they're working as a team to either sell you a product or an idea, or even both.

[@phillumenistfilms]

Yes!

[@greenearthblueskies8556]

@@jg79100 👍🏼💯

[@taia-b8f]

@@jg79100 yeah, fake calls. Like the typical radio show. It’s all pre-planned.

[@harsh3948]

@@jg79100 i wouldn’t go that far, plenty of boomer bosses still think like Dave does. It’s not out of the ordinary that he would be asked questions like these….it’s how he struck gold in the first place

[@guymoe81]

You mean Like CNN,MSNBC🤣

[@Phish620]

Any hard-working employee understands that in the environment as it stands today, you are punished for being good at your job far more than you would be if you were terrible at your job, and just did the bare minimum. It's always clowns like Dave who own businesses who think their employees should view their job the same way they view themselves owning a business. As Josh said, we have ZERO incentive to "get more work", all you get is higher expectations, no reward whatsoever.

[@JoaoBatista-yq4ml]

At some point most companies will have to lay off people to cut costs for one reason or another. Being good at your job makes you less likely to be fired, although there are many cases where it's just based on luck. So there are benefits in being a good employee, it's unrealistic to think it doesn't make any difference how well you do your job

[@Cross_Malaki]

@@JoaoBatista-yq4ml Except that being good at your job means having to do even more work for no reward, and then since you're doing even more work with no increased pay to balance out the increased workload and expectations, you end up doing worse at your job, and then you get fired for not being good at your job.

[@JoaoBatista-yq4ml]

@@Cross_Malaki This is the pessimistic view that if you do a lot of work other people will overwork you. From my experience the people who work really well are usually in control of how much work they can take, but I understand that this may not be the case

[@whitemakesright2177]

Boundaries are incredibly important. Do your work, do it well, but know your worth. Don't ever let an employer put more work on you than he's paying you for.

[@jr6897]

As a Christian and conservative I agree with (almost) everything you said. Very insightful. Good content, you got a new subscriber!!

[@KingBuffo]

Same, also a Christian and conservative, but Ramsey doesn't seem to understand the real world in this situation. Firing someone for sinful relations doesn't seem very loving - especially since its not a religious organization, company, or a church. I'd much rather him step in and talk to her and support her.

[@peterpan4038]

@@KingBuffo Exactly. I have zero respect for christians that pick and choose and/or interpret passages from the bible that fit their agenda, that type of preaching should be exclusive to the church. Meanwhile i have a lot of respect for those Christians that take the spirit of what is written down and apply it in ways that simply help out their community. Ramsey does this, to an extent. But at the end of the day his motivation to "do good" stems from greed. He always wants to sell more books and courses, or at the very least improve his reputation to sell more stuff that way. Helping others isn't complicated, you just need to do it.

[@TheBingLiam]

I'm conservative. I believe in free market. We don't live in a free market.

[@dionbridger5944]

The problem with ideas like that a company is a "family" or that you have to "love" your employees/employer is that it's an attempt to blur the boundaries between the professional and the personal. Skilled, competent professionals want to be valued for their skill and treated with professionalism, not "loved well".

[@German-md1xc]

Families that love you don't do background checks, antidoppings, etc. They also can't fire you... so yeah, never been a true statement.

[@normandy2501]

Not to be team "at the office", but a lot of people get most of their daily social interactions done while at work. Eventually it can become that way between other employees at least (hanging out on the weekends, inside jokes, etc.). Granted, you obviously can't be everybody's friend because at least a few of them really don't care, and may actively even try to professionally screw you over to get a leg up, but that social element is something you'll never escape if we're working 10 to 16 hours a day not including travel time. I barely have time to meet other people outside of work in my current area besides specific meetup groups on days I happen to have off. They're not family by any means, but a lot of these guys have met each other's parents and whatnot.

[@dionbridger5944]

@@normandy2501 American?

[@dianaverano7878]

Family? But they will kick you out about any reason. Lies.

[@johnnyestrada6993]

“I love our team” but if you unionize I will shut this whole thing down 🤣. Dave just sounds like the abuser in an abusive relationship.

[@kaseywahl]

"An unfaithful servant is like smoke to the eyes." The fact that this is Dave's favorite Bible verse just shows that he's the protagonist and everyone else is just living in his gosh dang fairy tale.

[@pelatiah_]

Amen😂😂

[@pablodelsegundo9502]

That's a common thread with patriarchal, self-righteous hogs.

[@feralkid9315]

He doesn’t understand that he is the servant of his employees just as much as they are his servants. Dude has a narcissistic god complex that can’t be overcome with reason.

[@garcjr]

@@feralkid9315 You're exactly right.

[@ghost-facedhindu4275]

“It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.” - Matthew 19:24 is one of my favorites verses.

[@HelloWorld-fg2nm]

You fighting the fight that everyone wants to fight but can't. Thank you Josh.

[@supereee7]

I’ve been on the anti work sub Reddit. It’s mostly people who just want to be treated like human beings at their jobs and to be paid well. The majority of the people on there want to work.

[@Here4TheHeckOfIt]

Yeah - the negative views of work exist because people have been burned. All of those terms like "disengaged", "quiet quitting", etc., are only there so terrible bosses and companies can deflect blame away from themselves. They would have to examine very uncomfortable things they'd rather not, like fairness, ethics, bias, selfishness, power inequity and abuse. The terms are there to make a serious situation more benign. Very similar to using the term "friendly fire" when you shoot an ally.

[@brpadington]

There are some crazy nut jobs on anti-work but for the most part they are hard working people that are advocating for fairness and holding employers accountable.

[@gus8426]

This is the internet You can find nut jobs anywhere And internet is just regular people exoressing themselves without restrains because its mostly anonymous

[@acreativename2781]

I thought the Anti-work subreddit closed down and they made a new one?

[@brpadington]

@@acreativename2781 Yea, they pulled it and recreated a new one.

[@WillmobilePlus]

>There are some crazy nut jobs on anti-work They literally said in the summary of the sub what they were about. It's only when it got exposed did it become "oh those are just some minor crazy people.

[@redfruit1993z]

@@brpadington it went private for a week and reopened to public. it's the same.

[@_baller]

I think Ramsey is so smug, cuz he knows he's millionaire by telling people they're dumb and should save more, he probably laughs how easy and stupid his job is

[@dallysinghson5569]

He's a one trick pony and milking it well XD

[@ChonnyD]

But it’s ok, he says it himself that he’s been DUMB. Since he self depreciates himself it’s ok if he sh!ts on and insults you.

[@abrax.98]

except he lost everything he had prior to getting to where he is.

[@ChonnyD]

@@abrax.98 So it’s ok for him to degrade and insult his callers and be a raging hippocrite? Does that sound very Jesus-like to you?

[@abrax.98]

@@ChonnyD Did I say that? No. I said it hasn't been easy getting to where he's at. Maybe he's intense, but the truth hurts.

[@chronicles6065]

This man is a lunatic. I will never be loyal to company especially when they wouldn't bat an eyelash about firing you or using you just to make money. People work your side jobs and get your money stop caring about these companies and as long as your not violating your contract or compete clause then your cool. I had a teacher who used to teach during the day and work as a bartender at night. That is disturbing that he calls workers "servants" that let us know already what type of boss he is and how he treats his workers.

[@mrshmuga9]

Once companies got rid of pensions, “loyalty” was thrown out the window. There’s no reason for them to stay with the company long-term, so why would they? This isn’t a charity, you’re not owed that particular employee.

[@Kountrykruiser]

But you get fired out of love. That's insanity enough.

[@chronicles6065]

@@Kountrykruiser That was insane for him to say.

[@chronicles6065]

@@mrshmuga9 💯

[@WillmobilePlus]

>This man is a lunatic. Cute. Broke people seem to really have a vicarial reaction to this guy. Sane ones actually manage to get out of debt and not live like a whiny zoomer that thinks that they know better. >People work your side jobs and get your money stop caring about these companies and as long as your not violating your contract or compete clause then your cool. So you actually run a business? No? Well then STFU and stop acting like you make the rules. If you hired someone and they acted like that, you wouldn't be big on it either.

[@NomadicBrian]

In summary. 'If you don't let us control your options and keep you completely dependent on us you are a bad worker.' I think this guy would love to be back in 1915 and running a factory with child labor. The type of guy that would have locked all the doors and had the workers burn up in a fire.

[@vanesslifeygo]

If your workplace is like a family...that means run, families aren't necessarily happy

[@ryanwolf4101]

The arrogance of Dave is stunning to me. "It looks like a trailer park. It's awful." I used to listen to him and read his books, but I finally realized I would be poor and living in a trailer park (it was safe and nice) the rest of my life if I continued to follow him. He is like a cult leader in a way.

[@Cross_Malaki]

Not like, IS. He IS a cult leader. And he needs to be treated like one.

[@DoubleAAmazin]

"He who works all day has no time to make money " - John D. Rockefeller.

[@_baller]

"You suck, save more, next caller.." Dave Ramsey, for every caller

[@flip3d]

Josh, you're a hero of the people.

[@mistyrobbins8193]

Oh, no. You seem to have forgotten to add that not only did he fire a woman for being pregnant, but he ALSO declined to fire someone high up in the company who was cheating on his wife, completely denied it was happening, and dragged the wife through the mud in an effort to discount her testimony. Just a super guy all around.

[@hahamasala]

If an employee working two jobs on salary at the same time is stealing then an employer making one person do the work of two people is also stealing. That happens all the time when they don't backfill open positions or just with headcount reductions.

[@josephj6521]

My employer has had me do work that higher paid employees used to do. I just now work slow and take as much time off I am legally able to. Fek ‘em.

[@Seattle-2017]

Especially with salaried, overtime exempt employees. Literally working for nothing.

[@hahamasala]

@@josephj6521 That's great! I call that "managing upward."

[@mrshmuga9]

It would be fine if it was combined with a significant increase in wage… but it rarely/barely is. I once worked at a grocery store and they asked if I wanted to get my license to sell alcohol. I asked if it came with a pay increase, they said no. So I said no :) I had no interest becoming a bartender so I’d have no other use for it. Joke’s on me though because I ended up getting trained for the self-checkout area (6 tills) and that was incredibly boring and depressing, lol. If I could sell alcohol, they wouldn’t train me there because a lot of employees (teens) couldn’t sell it if they wanted.

[@WillmobilePlus]

>If an employee working two jobs on salary at the same time is stealing then an employer making one person do the work of two people is also stealing Uh, no. Working from home, and using time on the clock to dop work for other people is stealing from the time you are supposed to be on the clock. Having to do more work for the people that are paying you to work is not remotely the same thing.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

The concept of "employee stealing the time" comes from the boomer concept that when you "employ" someone you "own them" for the day so it's literal treason if the employee isn't fully dedicated to you, his "rightful owner". Yes this is valid even for contractors, when you do contract work you have to show that you are fully dedicated to their company or project or whatever or they throw a tantrum

[@martharetallick204]

This boomer never bought into that narrative.

[@drewmandan]

This kind of thing is only possible with large organizations where tracking individual performance isn't as easy and replacing people is a matter of intense bureaucracy. But believe me, if I had an employee and I suspected that someone else would be able to get more work done, I would fire their ass.

[@AnimeBeefRandoms]

Well, to the extent of your job description and working hours agreed, they do own you and you agreed to it.

[@drewmandan]

@@AnimeBeefRandoms Bottom line, it's unethical not to inform your employer that you intend on working other jobs during your work hours.

[@trimwix9944]

Well welcome to the New World Order where that shit doesn't fly.

[@ms_cartographer]

If you are working, getting the work done, and are paid on salary, then how is it stealing? Dave is a quack.

[@inkompetenzkompensationsko4188]

Ironically enough, it could also be called efficient. Simply working efficient. One would think he would like that as a boss lol

[@morganseppy5180]

Because if you're not hanging on Dave's every word and meeting his every need, it's like smoke in your eyes....

[@sunidaze]

"You can choose your employer" If that were true I wouldn't have to fill out a hundred applications only to get a handful of interviews and the possibility of getting one offer.

[@micon9460]

Dave lives in a fantasy world. Literally no one at any place I've ever worked loved one another.

[@harolddoe6453]

I had a boss who tried to convince me not to quit by starting off with, "If I was your father....." In the first place he has no idea what my relationship with my father was so a stupid and risky analogy. Second, I was ten years his senior. Yeah, I didn't stay.

[@Koffeekeyz]

Wow that is the dumbest opening sentence I’ve heard a boss say! Glad you left!

[@communist-hippie]

Ha ha

[@matthewdieter3003]

I'm 36 and have had about 15-20 jobs including the Marine Corps 2005-2009 and I can tell you company loyalty is not a thing. If they don't need you they will get rid of you and your loyalty to the company will not save you......josh is right about everything in all of his videos. He would undoubtedly be the best boss ever lol

[@colto2312]

If I ever get into hiring my opening line will be: the job sucks, I suck, you should look forward to the day you don't need me anymore.

[@zbj4240]

Thank you for your service, Semper Fidelis.

[@yourmom4398]

@@zbj4240 Lmao

[@zbj4240]

@@yourmom4398 lMaO at thanking a vet for his service?

[@yourmom4398]

@@zbj4240 Yes, military worship in the United States is cringe.

[@BenKaminski]

I spent so many years in corporate environments -- my work day consisted of almost 40% socializing, responding to emails, or in meetings. Working from home, I have none of those distractions. I don't get the argument.

[@edwardbrito4010]

Narcissistic bosses want to control & manage & take big ego hit because their job is worthless.

[@BenKaminski]

@@JBS2018 It's not like they understand what I do! I never got that -- the need to look over ones shoulder yet have no clue if they're actually working or not. This was once brought up by me to a "superior" back in my in-office days. It's a total power trip. You need to live in fear of management.

[@Fungigi]

Middle management is starting to become obsolete with work from home.

[@danieldpa8484]

A job is a transaction - if the employer wants more than what was agreed, he needs to pay more. It’s not complicated, while most companies don’t get it and never will.

[@narkfly]

As someone who wrote off r/antiwork because of the name and the interview with the guy who did them no favors - I appreciate some of the nuance and rebuttal.

[@josephj6521]

Years ago my ex employer wanted me to work on weekends without payment. I replied “you won’t walk into a supermarket and take food for free. You don’t have me working for free. You must pay me”.

[@josephj6521]

@eric Spencer they weren’t happy but I resigned 2 years later.

[@calvinvastelli6792]

Also Dave Ramsey - Sells you books and courses telling you to work a 9 to 5 job. Like Bruh, you don't even DO what you PREACH. Dave is a complete tool.

[@DB-rp2gj]

I work from home for customer service. I LOVE being home where I am not on full anxiety mode because of all the people that may sit next to me or my supervisor just breathing down my neck.

[@celestialarmor695]

I wish I could get that type of job can you point me in the write direction

[@matts3729]

@@celestialarmor695 Likewise- I'm looking for a work-from-home job

[@basedblueboy8770]

IT

[@bepositive4494]

Great DB be careful of gaining weight. Remote workers getting morbidly obese from eating and getting high all day but I guess job performance OK. Any body else gain a ton of weight from working on your couch?

[@AaronAlso]

I promise I could end the "anti-work subreddit" in a month..... give all of them a stake in a company. Give them a reason to want to go to work. Give them a say in their working conditions and processes. It is called an "Employee Owned Company" and I hope they become more popular in the coming years with a new generation.

[@amireallythatgrumpy6508]

Unfortunately, they're probably dumb enough to run the company into the ground in a month.

[@LeadRakFPS]

I've worked 4-10's for 15 years. Best work-life balance ever. Employer/owner is happy, work gets done, and I have more time for my family and personal well-being. There's a reason why certain big tech companies are adopting this model.

[@destroyonload3444]

"hey dad, the coal mine is getting unsafe" Ramsey: "keep mining. stop whining"

[@kevalincowri586]

😄😄😄😄

[@Roescoe]

"I have sacrificed for them," is very often uttered by a narcissist.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

Ah yes another classic boomer gaslighting tactic about the "i've sacrificed so much for the company/workers". You are the owner, you invested into your own company. A sacrifice is something that isn't paid back.

[@mrshmuga9]

Even if he did, that’s not the employee’s fault/responsibility. It’s his because that’s part of owning a business, if you want one. Sure, there could be sacrifices for _individual_ employees, but if it affects all or most, then that’s just the cost of running a business. If he doesn’t like it, no one’s forcing him to run/keep the business.

[@Emidretrauqe]

It's so interesting how boomer vocabulary works. "employ" means "own", "sacrifice" means "invest", "hard work" means "dignity"....

[@brandonandrews1194]

I really like your videos. It really got me thinking about how unjust some workplaces and some bosses are in the employment field. I am working in an employment law firm as a law clerk right now, fighting for employee side claims regarding employment and labor disputes, and I have you to thank for helping me get interested in this area. Great job on your channel!

[@mawile3714]

Dave Ramsey is such a great example of Spiritual Abuse. I often use his rants to show people one way that it can happen.

[@SaxaphoneMan42]

I think what you point out at 20:50 is what gets me the most about these types of folks. They hustle and do what people do to get to the top, then they wanna pull the ladder up after them.

[@Leshgetit2025]

This boomer has multiple businesses! Why can’t his employees do the same?

[@heavyassaultmode1503]

One of the few excuses I accepted as a manager when someone was late for work, is, "I'm running late because I got held up at my other job," especially if they called that in before their shift started. I have all the respect in the world for people who hustle and grind to make a better life for themselves and the rest of us.

[@osirisofthesouth2853]

You can do that in low skilled / income environments. That shit ain’t in the office

[@heavyassaultmode1503]

@@osirisofthesouth2853 I currently work in IT for a Fortune 100 corp, where only our remote workers (a few salaried engineers, managers & knowledge workers) can or could double-gig it. A few of them are.

[@prihaps]

@@osirisofthesouth2853 lmao you can do it in tech. As someone who is studying cybersecurity, I’m absolutely going to work 2 jobs at the same time

[@osirisofthesouth2853]

@@prihaps you’re not even qualified to talk

[@osirisofthesouth2853]

@@heavyassaultmode1503 you can’t flim flam me I’m in that world. Infra, Ain’t nobody double gigging.m in serious firms or have the time

[@lazyviolinist3418]

As a Bible reader myself, that's not what that verse means. That's about service to God. Pretty sure that's the same way people tried justifying slavery. I love how he even admitted that he was reading it out of context. It's okay to be pissed off about genuinely unfair / illegal working conditions. That's why I quit my last job.

[@RJ-zm3qk]

It is "funny" that the 6 richest people in the world has more money than the poorest 3 billion. Yet, when we ordinary people trying to have a better life than our parents, we are called the devil, thief, etc....

[@CyborgWolf]

The second I hear child or family from a ceo my brain just checks out

[@zbj4240]

Amen

[@Websitedr]

Dave has become the OK BOOMER meme as this. His advice and books and programs have made him rich (funny how people in debt seem to have money for his stuff) the past few decades. Even his kids are working for him now so it's a family (cult) brand.

[@MichaelCarolina]

"you can choose where you work" As someone who has signed a non-compete contract...As a total fking idoit who would get sued in a heartbeat I would like to disagree.

[@niyablake]

Depends on were you live . My state unless you are partner in a company, non compete is toilet paper here .

[@MichaelCarolina]

@@niyablake Sure you can get out of it, but when the company has deeper pockets than you. You can win but at what cost.

[@tgoods44]

@@niyablake I agree with this. I live in WI and have personally seen about 5 non-competes not work. My old company negotiated some sort of something and it never went to court.

[@niyablake]

@@MichaelCarolina In My state it's already gone up to 9th circuit and won. They could try and litigate but a potato would get it tossed since the law that bars it has already been tested in court.

[@ubcroel4022]

@@niyablake which state?

[@soccersprint]

Ramsey is just identifying his company as a place for people to avoid. We should be thankful that he showed us that he is a bad employer so that all good people can avoid him

[@amireallythatgrumpy6508]

All good people avoid America

[@jimrockford2947]

Imagine needing a paycheck so badly that you'd work for Dbag Dave.

[@GashdakSaghzaar]

"You went on to become the best version of yourself, and we were loving you well when we fired you." Absolute ragebait. Dave Ramsay's arrogance knows no bounds. Taking credit for someone's future success by having fired him. I used to work for a boomer asshole that was exactly like Dave Ramsay, and it sucked shit.

[@LevePalestinaKrossaSionismen]

As a Palestinian, thank you so much for calling out this insanity Josh 🙏🏼

[@BlackRain_]

Ramsey's co-worker looks a little semetic...

[@kennygee2715]

More of us in the US are waking up to the lies we've been told about how everything Israel = good and everything Palestinian = bad. As if things are that simple.

[@dino8970]

Palestinian???

[@kennygee2715]

@@dino8970 Those are the people who lived on the land before it was taken over by the current occupiers.

[@La_Ru-yg8es]

I was honestly shocked that he took a complex situation, one quite fraught, and reduced it to "capitalism vs. communism" argument. Ramsey is either disingenuous or mentally challenged. Antiwork subreddit is excellent. I can spend hours reading on there.

[@farrahupson]

Requiring the whole "yes sir, no sir" nonsense reeks of narcissism and of the assumption that you deserve respect regardless of your actions, instead that you deserve respect because you are above others. I wonder if Dave really accepts that other people are actual living, thinking individuals, not his property, or his lessers.

[@BuiltInBrooklyn]

People don’t understand where these goons get their crony capitalist ideas and notions from. They get them from their faith, a faith that is so far removed from its actual founder that it’s hilarious. They don’t realize that they act more like the Roman emperors than they do Jesus.

[@johnbrewer1430]

I think he meant for children and their elders. I made mine do that when they were young. I do it to people younger than me too because I live in the South and I like to. (I also was in the Army) Try it, you may be surprised at the responses you get. I get it though if you live in Philadelphia, Northern Jersey, or New York City. Very blunt and many are just rude.

[@WillmobilePlus]

>Requiring the whole "yes sir, no sir" nonsense reeks of narcissis Same person: "There is northing wrong with demanding the use of personal pronouns. Its called RESPECTZ!!!!!"

[@OFP_TODAY]

He’s from the south, that’s just good manners from that region

[@BuiltInBrooklyn]

@@OFP_TODAY Good manners is addressing people like that out of respect, voluntarily. Demanding that from others is kinda narcissistic!

[@waitaminute2015]

Just found your channel. I'm likely much older than most of your viewers. You guys give me hope for the country. Keep up the fight!

[@wendykrahn6345]

Spot on! CEOs that have multiple positions, "looks good on the resume", employees that have more than one position, "you're a thief!". Hypocrisy on full display.

[@skyranger1366]

Don't work multiple jobs because you are stealing from the employer. Says the man that sells financial aid courses, owns countless rental properties, and runs a multi million dollar buisness.

[@BlackRain_]

These rules are for thee... not for me....

[@skyranger1366]

@@BlackRain_ If it weren't for double standards Dave Ramsey wouldn't have any standards at all.

[@Fivetimesthree]

Dave's patriarchal comparison to the worker boss relationship is exactly the reason his ilk were sent to the gulliotine. He's so out of touch it's genuinely scary.

[@aureateseigneur5317]

I love how its really just a big explanation of how he would exploit children if he was allowed to but since hes not he'll exploit adults instead, least until they allow him to exploit children.

[@JRPGGUY]

How dare you work multiple jobs instead of one? Because one job can pay all the bills. This guy is out of touch.

[@josephnorris4095]

When I hear that, I clearly can see that they have never been in a toxic work environment nor a toxic relationship. I was in a toxic work environment, left finally, after 11.5 years and was literally yelled all like I was a little child, all over something small but, I did not know realize what I was in until I finally got out. I see no affirmation or encouragement coming for Dave or that other dude, at all.

[@dianaverano7878]

True that. Dave does not mention toxic corporate crap. Favoritism Micromanaging. My first company was like that. But it is the " boss in position" who yell at people. Sad to say, some of my friends remained there, get yelled at because of being absent on saturday or sunday zoom meetings. I am happy every day working in a better company now.

[@soindifferent_]

Man, Daves a real piece of work. Thanks for opening up my eyes to reality!

[@gangsterluvman]

When an boss is quick to say “I’m not your mommy or daddy..” it’s because that’s how they view the relationship. Because of this, they literally create a parent child style dynamic with their behavior. Then they complain that all their employees act like kids! Idiots! Honestly, a huge portion of people in leadership positions should NOT be there. Don’t believe me? Look at the state of the world today.

[@zariaeda007]

He supposedly has a contract where he expects his employees to live a certain lifestyle, otherwise they get fired. It's disgusting if it's true.

[@saltysyracusian]

But if I work two salaried jobs how will I make all of the nonsensical filler meetings that everybody feels the need to fill my time with?!

[@JGComments]

Ironic that guys like Dave always conclude that they can’t work for anyone else in a normal corporate structure. They know it’s a bad deal.

[@FrankDTank16]

When I was in office at my first job, I often asked for more work because I completed my tasks so quick. One reason was because I thought that working hard meant higher raise, boy was I mistaken. Towards the end I stopped asking for more work, and they still didn't want me to leave when I gave my 2 weeks.

[@eleven.22_erica]

Had an interview for a work from home job , the interviewer told me I would have to be videotaped while on the job and that if I spent more than two minutes away from my computer that I could be disciplined for it and they were only paying 16 dollars an hour …. No thanks !

[@celestialarmor695]

Are you serious like they where going to make you set up a camera in your house that's wild they where way to strict glad you turned that down

[@SlickDickAndCarl]

What a joke. Completely ridiculous to think anyone would accept those working conditions for that low of pay. People exploited around every corner

[@WillmobilePlus]

@@SlickDickAndCarl When you are given the privilege of working from home, you either take the trade-off, or find yourself working at the place that hired you. They are paying you for work, not because you are special.

[@davidowens9597]

@@celestialarmor695 I assume they'd require you to have a webcam running on you at all times.

[@gcod3d161]

@@WillmobilePlus ‘when you are given the privilege of being born in and working for China you agree to whatever we tell you to do. If you don’t like it you can always leave the country, it’s really easy when you have no money and can’t afford to.’

[@micahmartin4762]

“Stop comparing parents and children to adult employers and employees.” Amen!

[@metadadda]

DR filed for bankruptcy in 1988. He now preaches to not get into debt, yet he was someone who did...by a large margin. If he had $1.2m in debt in the 80s, can you image that sort of personal debt in today's economy? He's simply a guy who built a platform who now gave his kids their own platform too (look it up). Complaining about work environment today is hypocritical when you created your own nepotistic work environment. Maybe he's just talking to get traction like this too...not out of the question.

[@TehFlush]

While I don't want to defend Dave because he's been acting poorly lately, he specifically mentions that he is against debt partially because of his experience with bankruptcy

[@wanderer5200]

"If he had $1.2m in debt in the 80s, can you image that sort of personal debt in today's economy?" I checked an inflation calculator. It's over four million dollars.

[@swaghauler8334]

@Chosen Remix Yes. Now here's the REAL scoop. He did indeed have to declare bankruptcy in the 80s due to a failed business venture... BUT... and this is the big "but"... he lost a million dollars or so that his FATHER GAVE HIM and he never personally suffered in that bankruptcy. I wish my father had given me a cool mill to blow!

[@jerrychicks2420]

@@swaghauler8334 That's what I was thinking. Wasn't his dad rich?

[@jrwntctv8091]

So Dave learned from the mistakes he made in the 1980s and taught everyone how to avoid those mistakes. And?

[@nurainiarsad7395]

Parents that prevent their kids from growing their potential, just so they can remain comfortable rather than invest in the kids; parents who kick out their kids knowing that this means they might be homeless or devoid of medical care, just so they can save themselves; parents who divest each other or merge, and as a result abandon their unwanted kids; usually society considers these as toxic parents. Not that these are good parallels to employment, but if people are gonna go there, so can I.

[@RickymaRI87]

So a millionaire can own two business, (not stealing) from the economy. However if someone has two jobs they are stealing from the millionaire. Got it.

[@go-aheadbe-offended1767]

Anytime am employer wraps themselves in religion to justify their actions, watch out.

[@badgerden7080]

I agree.

[@emilyswanson8269]

Worst employers I ever worked for had hideous boundaries around religious talk in the workplace .

[@drecksaukerl]

Especially if he doesn't even obey the rules of the religion he claims to follow.

[@mace7754]

That is what the Antichrist does!!!

[@rakeshcristobal8320]

I have a scripture quote for Dave Ramsey. "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

[@smileychess]

Exactly true, as long as your work is not affected. BUT... if your work IS affected by having multiple jobs, then it's your employers responsibility to give feedback and discuss expectations. Not yours.

[@robert8930]

i disagree, the work is affected because you dont get 8 hours worth of work. if you finish in 4 hours, your manager should probably assign twice your workload so you can work 8 hours since you're paid 8 hours. i dont like this concept of finishing a task so im done for the day.

[@smileychess]

​@@robert8930 - Depends on the job. A lot of "knowledge workers" have jobs that are project based. Meaning that once you have the project finished, that completes your task until more work is assigned.

[@aureateseigneur5317]

@@robert8930 Then i better get twice the pay, we agreed on this work load for this pay, me being more efficient then you expected is you lowballing yourself. You wanna double the workload because you where inaccurate at the workload/time then you need to pay me double since I'm doing double the work now. You disliking the concept of work done so I'm done is your problem, no one else's. They have other shit to do, hence why they got that second job to do after they finish your workload. The works done. Im on to something else. Got bills to pay.

[@robert8930]

@@aureateseigneur5317 thats the problem, you are paid for 8 hours you should work for 8 hours. i dont care if you think you have other shit to do, you are supposed to work for your employer 8 hours. i dont care even if you want to do the tasks and then do nothing for the remaining hours, but for the employer, he shouldnt allow you to work for yourself during those 8 hours. he pay 8 hours of your time, you owe him those hours. you do what he says, what he wants. until you move to a project based contract, you are not supposed to work on anything else that's not company related for those 8 hours. you want to stay 3 hours outside and drink coffee and chat, fine by me. but dont use those 3 hours to get more money.

[@deepdivedevs100]

@@robert8930 depends on the job, In software development, it doesn't work like that unless you are working on same product for very long time that everything gets repetitive

[@Jc-lh4mr]

What they want is competent employees, at the lowest pay possible, to overwork themselves and dedicate their lives to making the CEO money. Workers want to afford rent.

[@loganbreau882]

The most fucked up thing about his example of being a dad is that he said his children should say "yes SIR, and no SIR." Imagine having such a distant relationship with your kids that they don't refer to you as mom or dad (depending on gender), but instead, they refer to you as sir like you would to the police. This guy is so disconnected from emotions that even examples to make him look nice just sounds like he's a prison warden.

[@KoyomiMojo]

Patronizing. Talking down to everyone as though they are a child being obstinate. Strange guy, really. Sucks that most head honcho's are like this or worse.

[@davestorm6718]

@@alexcarbery8189 - A lot of that real estate flipping stuff is actually pretty harmful to the market (and people) as a whole. It' starts with Robbing Peter to Pay Paul mentality, but then moves to over selling property via lies. Flippers will low ball on the buying side (why they target people in trouble and the elderly), do the bare minimum to fix the property and obscure anything wrong, then target clueless buyers all the while the property's selling price is greatly inflated (over-valued). Many buyers that buy these properties end up discovering serious problems that the flipper's did not fix or obscured the truth - many are young first-time home buyers (young families) and they're further burdened, cost-wise, via flipper deception (as well as a much higher price). These are the "targets" for the sale of these properties. Perhaps there needs to be more effort in exposing these people for what they are. Rip off the seller, rip off the buyer, and pocket the difference. The mortgage companies/banks can get ripped off as well - when hidden costs are beyond the means of the home buyer, they can get further in debt - may choose to sell at a loss, then the bank get stuck with the deficit (and the buyer gets a nasty credit mark). This is the crap that's been pervading the home after-market for the last couple of decades. This is a technique of "making money" by producing absolutely nothing of value in the long run AND this is what Dave promotes. This is bait and switch for profit.

[@FinalStooge]

@@alexcarbery8189 Bud, he didn't even follow his own advice. Yes, I can agree that he CAN BE a good person to listen to if you're unwilling to do anything financially responsible any other way, but you'd be better off just taking financial responsibility instead. The guy leveraged himself incredibly far into debt buying up slum houses and wasn't out of debt for some 10-15 years, WHILE he was telling people that you shouldn't have any debt! Debt is a TOOL, which is something he doesn't like people to know because if they did they'd all know that ANYONE who timed the market (got lucky asf) like Dave did would be in the same position. Slum houses are inexpensive and specifically with Dave, he chose a lucrative market: near military installations. This way you know EXACTLY how much your clients are being given for rent, and you can charge them roughly that amount (or slightly under if you are desperate for someone to move in) and you can increase the rent every 6 months by about 1-2.5% so that BAH rates go up (the industry standard is 2%, because they expect congress to give mil members 3-4% BAH raises yearly), and if your tenant ever leaves, you can simply drop the rental price back down slightly, have dozens of applicants, and then restart the process.

[@Tnargav]

The idea of an employee having multiple jobs is frightening for such an employer as Dave. People like that hate when they don't have a full control over somebody.

[@volimsir]

If companies can have multiple clients, because having one client is like putting all your eggs into one basket, then why can't employees work for multiple companies?

[@Seattle-2017]

That's about the only way for young people to get ahead these days - by becoming "thieves" instead of OT exempt victims of wage theft.

[@trendster9463]

Just don't sign on such contracts

[@skj9163]

They don't have the control they want. For the majority of companies they want to be number one on your list of priorities. They know that if you have options, then they have to treat you as an equal (at least to some degree).

[@JK-Handyman]

There was a time when employees were rewarded for their loyalty and hard work. Our grandparents, the "greatest generation" had that great life when America was a great country. Our parents worked their asses off and got used. We saw this and swore we wouldn't do the same thing. this is why quiet quitting is so popular. The workers are standing up to the abuse and lack of compensation.