Keep in mind, Peterson is a clinical pyschologist. He is not talking about the fiscal or career side per se. He is talking about the mental anxiety that some people have from taking risks. This is the mental and Peterson is arguing the fact that mental anxiety come with risk It is better for that person to take the risk ti do something different than risk to stay where you are which you already miserable
@nedyarb72152 ай бұрын
But what Dave is saying is, getting another job is not a risk.
@montyharder3663Ай бұрын
@@nedyarb7215 But it is a risk. You never know for sure that the new job will actually be better than the one you give up.
@hlj65172 жыл бұрын
"We must all suffer from one of two pains: the pain of discipline or the pain of regret. The difference is discipline weighs ounces and regret weighs tons." - Jim Rohn
@drumyogi92812 жыл бұрын
Jim Rohn is one of my favorite speakers and authors. Simply one of the bests!
@PatriceM142 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing that quote.
@bigpumpfitness37342 жыл бұрын
Jim Rohn
@ds56512 жыл бұрын
I am a disciple of Jim Rohn.
@scholaroftheworldalternatehist2 жыл бұрын
No matter what you do in life you will have regrets. The consequences of dying involuntarily
@youngmystery84172 жыл бұрын
I agree with Jordan Peterson. They didn’t understand the context. It’s not about the money is about your mental health in a job you hate
@chulo65612 жыл бұрын
I think he might have had a lot more said there but he may have been cut off or the clip was shorter than what was really there. Or he is just giving a small idea when there is a lot more to it.
@mosesking29232 жыл бұрын
It’s a cute soundbite but nonetheless false. The real world doesn’t guarantee happiness nor is life about you. Especially if you have a family to provide for, your primary obligation is to get over yourself and provide for your family and yourself. Happiness is a choice you make every morning, not a job that you can obtain. Happiness is not important. Responsibility and duty are.
@ilai78932 жыл бұрын
@@mosesking2923 that's part of the American dream
@aolvaar87922 жыл бұрын
I worked 16 hours/day for 45 days, no days off, sleep, eat, shower, dress at work for a lousy $960/day 45 days off, repeat Full RV hook ups at work, no cost
@turtleville2882 жыл бұрын
Right. They don’t understand what he’s saying.
@jesshatchette2 жыл бұрын
I thought I hated my career until I found a great company with excellent people, and now I know that career was always perfect for me. It was never the career. It was always the company. It was the culture of the company and the people I was surrounded by. Now that I'm out of the toxicity, I can love my career.
@TheEllaTB2 жыл бұрын
Great observation 👍
@KhmerH202 жыл бұрын
how did you find a great company? what were the signs you were looking for?
@Tousanx2 жыл бұрын
Similar experience. Personnel where I work move around a lot. Some departments can have be totally toxic and the next year same company different crew and it’s wonderful.
@Coffeendonuts2 жыл бұрын
Toxicity lol gen z favorite cry baby war cry
@jesshatchette2 жыл бұрын
@@Coffeendonuts I’m Gen X.
@aj95862 жыл бұрын
As Peterson said himself “watch more”…..he certainly does not advocate dropping a job with no plan.
@traceyreed91672 жыл бұрын
👍
@davidnofsinger34272 жыл бұрын
Too true! I really hate all of the editing on Jordan Peterson's clip.
@bt84692 жыл бұрын
Exactly, that. I had forgotten about that response he gave in a previous interview. If I had, I could have saved myself a paragraph of writing in a separate comment about how far off they missed JP's point.
@AnthonyAlvarado782 жыл бұрын
Tik tok does a good job of complicating things.
@tommyjohn3122 жыл бұрын
Typical, cutting Jordan’s lengthy conversations short and just pulling certain parts out. Would love to see him on this show however.
@referee48082 жыл бұрын
Peterson is right, there's a ton of risk in getting a new job. There are new coworkers, bosses, pay structure, office politics, and things can always be worse. But Peterson goes on to say in that clip that you are stronger than you are and face making a decision with high risk.
@James_362 жыл бұрын
i thought i hated my job until i realised i probably will hate every other job way more and completely lost sight of my perks and benefits. Your list there just made me realise the risk of leaving my current Company is just far too great for me. I also have plenty of work to do on increasing my wealth by not spending and wasting as much. Peterson was so right
@TheEllaTB2 жыл бұрын
Context helps, right 🙂
@arturotorres64372 жыл бұрын
@@James_36 I can relate to this too. The only thing I dislike about my job is the take home pay but as for the perks+benefits, it's pretty good. Still can't get too comfortable and feel I have to keep on growing & earning more...
@mmp4952 жыл бұрын
The grass isn't always greener but it may be worth looking. 😊
@melanieannette37812 жыл бұрын
The fact they acted like they can’t see the risk shows they missed the point. Even if you mitigate financial risk by getting hired at a new company prior to quitting, first of all that’s not even always possible. In addition, that doesn’t eliminate all the risks involved. What if you have to move? What if you don’t know what you’re walking into? What if the discontentment goes deeper and isn’t even about your job at all after all? Peterson is a psychologist so I’m sure he was speaking of more than mere financial risk.
@dtbfit28362 жыл бұрын
We need a Ramsey/Peterson podcast yesterday! Seriously why hasn’t this happened yet? Would love to hear both talk about finance, ethics, God and the impact that independent individuals with integrity have on their families, communities and state
@sconnell17912 жыл бұрын
@Prey R Huh? What's wrong with Mikhaila?
@melissadarche65482 жыл бұрын
@Prey R how so?
@apophispnw57172 жыл бұрын
Nobody really needs to hear anything more from Dave. He doesn’t really have anything more to offer it’s all out there. It’s the same 10 things repeated over and over.
@murderofcrows77382 жыл бұрын
Peterson is a toxic misogynist beta. I’m shocked Dave agrees with him on most things tbh.
@priscillalongworth17202 жыл бұрын
@Prey R What? Mikhaila is awesome!
@kevinjackson80112 жыл бұрын
Great dialogue, but I would love to have heard Ken’s response without interruption
@girlygirl18902 жыл бұрын
Aaaaabsolutely! I was thinking (and no offense to Dave) "Dave will you shutttt up?????" Ken handled Dave with so much respect though. Did better than I would have (lol).
@jeshuasosa74612 жыл бұрын
Dave's seem he doesn't have ken's voice loud enough in his headphones. Talking over each other is annoying
@mynameis......232 жыл бұрын
No
@frankfigueroa85912 жыл бұрын
Dave needs to let Ken speak without interrupting him. That is why I do not watch his live shows anymore. He does that with all of his co-host.
@Future_looksbright2 жыл бұрын
The sound of Kens voice makes me want to beat my head on a wall. Good insight, but you almost can’t even enjoy it good lord everything he said was pure promo for sales 🙄
@spencer.evans222 жыл бұрын
We need a Jordan Peterson and Dave Ramsey podcast episode!!!
@Water4Mart2 жыл бұрын
Grant Cardone and Dave Ramsey would be much more interesting.
@jarrodvsinclair2 жыл бұрын
@@Water4Mart would never happen but yeah that would be funny. What would be funnier is that guy on Tiktake that does real estate flipping and is always calling out Dave but I would not want him to get a larger stage.
@Water4Mart2 жыл бұрын
@@jarrodvsinclair never say never, it could happen
@blackworldtraveler37112 жыл бұрын
My parents were enough.
@Water4Mart2 жыл бұрын
I actually believe in debt now, the only way to beat inflation is having debt and owning assets that pay you monthly.
@milkcowx2 жыл бұрын
Worth watching that entire interview. Peterson always lays it down straight.
@veronicaguerrero58272 жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson and Dave Ramsey have been two father figures for me and have helped me improve my life Tremendously!! Two Giants can inspire many of the small 💕
@jimmyewald2 жыл бұрын
Same, but I'm also a Theo Von fan, so bonus points for me!
@MikeyDiL2 жыл бұрын
Great comment!
@veronicaguerrero58272 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyewald been a Theo Von fan, I especially love his joke about Eddie Bravo.
@veronicaguerrero58272 жыл бұрын
@@MikeyDiL thanks 😊
@Maria-oh1nq2 жыл бұрын
Thats sad you dont have a father?
@luvmysuperduty2 жыл бұрын
I owned and ran a small electronics company with my wife for 24 years. After years of customers slow and no pay, ever growing supplier incompetence, and shrinking profits we all but closed down. I took the pandemic shutdowns and obtained my OSHA 30 certification also obtained my CDL-A. Now I drive heavy haul (my dream) in northern Michigan! I get paid every week, I have health insurance for the first time in my adult life, I have a 401K started, and other benefits (to many to list)! I spend most days with scenery out my windshield like a painting! I still have bad days but more days than not it feels like my feet don’t touch the ground! Keep digging there is a good fit for everyone somewhere!!
@tarahart8122 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to let Ken speak without interruption! He did deal with it well.
@walkercig2 жыл бұрын
OMG THIS
@bhallais12 жыл бұрын
Yup. Made the video unwatchable! Dave, let the man speak!
@tcgtpl2 жыл бұрын
@@bhallais1 Mr Ramsey only allows the women on his show speak without interruption.
@JamesSmith-cm7sg2 жыл бұрын
I know so frustrating. Ken is super knowledgeable about this subject but keeps getting cut off. Does Dave do this at the doctor's office too? Pathetic
@aida0872 жыл бұрын
This is why I go directly to "Ken's" channel to listen to him because I get to listen to him without anyone interrupting him!! It irks me when people interrupt others!
@roadracing32 жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson is spot on. And he played devil's advocate on both options in a more simple way that Dave and the other guy does.
@jmossbernee10452 жыл бұрын
Bet Ken is looking for another job where he can finish his thought when asked a question
@richthepup2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@damarcusbeendidit2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@jrwntctv80912 жыл бұрын
It exists. It's called "The Ken Coleman show"
@joshrowe22752 жыл бұрын
I read this comment and sipped my coffee and Dave cut him off, I then proceeded to choke on my coffee😂
@Matt-gf4gd2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@troisquarts36592 жыл бұрын
My two favourite grumpy old guys who actually tell the truth. This should be a teaser for when Dave and Jordan have a real, two-hour discussion together.
@jakebormann8102 жыл бұрын
This should happen!
@chrisyoung55752 жыл бұрын
I’d pay to see/hear that convo
@JS-sv4ol2 жыл бұрын
YES PLEASE
@ThatBinghamHikes2 жыл бұрын
Please God let this happen. I want Dave to rant on Jordan SO bad.
@CurSwag2 жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson is not grumpy 😂
@henrylondon63082 жыл бұрын
Dave's gotta stop interrupting Ken, it''s becoming a meme at this point 😂
@truegrizzlesfan22922 жыл бұрын
Yes, I said something like that as well. It's really tiresome.
@LittleMopeHead2 жыл бұрын
I agree. But it's also interesting seeing the reaction on his face sometimes.
@rachelgee78942 жыл бұрын
It's just rude. He doesn't even go back and let him finish his point after the interruption.
@tcgtpl2 жыл бұрын
Mr Ramsey only allows the women cohosts to speak without interruption.
@blackworldtraveler37112 жыл бұрын
Dave is the boss and TV star.
@Cobra-vq6qr Жыл бұрын
Dr. Peterson is spot on. They are doing EXACTLY what media outlets do and have taken him out of context.
@kwasg3 Жыл бұрын
yup
@shyshka_ Жыл бұрын
holy shit, relax kiddo, zip up the pants when you're done too
@Spectre949512 жыл бұрын
There seems to be more agreement here than they think. But they should ABSOLUTELY have Peterson on if possible.
@Juhiss932 жыл бұрын
Absolutely since it is just a short clip from longer discussion. Whole point that JP was making is that there is allways risk, no matter what, but staying in the job you hate have much much greatter risk than seeking something else.
@joseph9062 жыл бұрын
Yeah. And he wasn't saying "quit your job" irresponsibly. He's a psychologist. He's thinking of the risk of a person becoming bitter and resentful as they stay in the job they hate. And much morr than that.
@travisledo2 жыл бұрын
Ken: Starts to talk... Dave: Let me finish your thought for you cause I am smart.
@girlygirl18902 жыл бұрын
Travis Ledo...and Ken's response should be "yes, I know you are smart...and I'm right up there with you buddy." : )
@BrotherhoodWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
"So the debt is the snake, and we have a primal instinct to run from it. It embodies what is truly satanic in all of us. And what you're saying is to shoulder the responsibility, to embody the Christ figure and crush the head of that snake. And the credits cards? Well that's easy. That's the apple that promises all the things we haven't earned." - not Jordan Peterson.
@ericbrown76282 жыл бұрын
Love this haha!!
@VincesInHocSigno2 жыл бұрын
Haha It is the woman who shall crush the head of the snake 👌 Gen. 3:15
@Musicalogist2 жыл бұрын
Very good
@Water4Mart2 жыл бұрын
@@VincesInHocSigno women crush the head of someone's snake everyday 🤣
@lauromartinez89482 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@bretclaar16632 жыл бұрын
These guys take things so literal. I work very long hours, it’s not easy. That said, my job allows me to impact lives in a big way. It doesn’t feel like work in the traditional sense. It feels like helping people & getting paid
@AdamB50002 жыл бұрын
I love Jordan Peterson. He is an inspiration of truth and honesty.
@francosadventures2 жыл бұрын
Ken gives the strongest feeling I've ever had of "making it up as you're going along".
@scratch578 ай бұрын
He has less personality than his rear-facing comb over.
@Mitzi732 жыл бұрын
Let him talk, Dave! He is smart that’s why you hired him. 😆
@Primitive_Code2 жыл бұрын
I agree that Ken is smart but sometimes he runs on a matter or offers senseless advice like I'm so and so and I'm doing this type of work because of x, y, z. Or when he questions the callers about the 'why'. Sometimes your hands are tied and you are working a certain type of work because you have to provide, it's not always about passion or career advancement.
@CaptainSleep2 жыл бұрын
He interrupts a lot. You can tell that Ken gets annoyed.
@tjmcavoy-jensen8712 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainSleep at first I kinda blew it off that Dave interrupts Ken... as the more I listen though its quite blatant now that he cuts him off all the time... its quite distracting tbh
@Btone10182 жыл бұрын
@Prey R what examples of John are you talking about? I’ve listened to him and there are a few times where I’ve questioned his advice but never thought it was disgusting.
@Btone10182 жыл бұрын
@Prey R no he does a good job of stating “I’m not telling you to get a divorce”. He constantly says he does not advocate for people to get a divorce if the issue can be resolved. And often if he does tell them they deserve better, it’s because the situation definitely calls for a divorce.
@ParkDari2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad we followed your advice back in 1999. We now have a paid for rental and a paid for home , daughter in private school, fully funded emergency account with a years worth of wages, paid for cars always, zero debt always. And retirement is always fully funded. Thank you so much.
@keziahthomas25262 жыл бұрын
How long have you been in BS7?
@essme2878 Жыл бұрын
This actual video combined with God and prayer actually pushed me into a company that needed a financial coach when they required a degree from me I didn't have one but I had evidence that I taught people, loved them and showed them a new path. I got the career!!! I'm now a financial coach and I'm so happy and excited I love my life and every day!!! God is great! Proud Salvadorian Latina thank you Dave and Jordan P
@ghfan20112 жыл бұрын
I love the advice my dad use to give: If you hate your job, every day will feel like work. If you’re passionate about what you do, only some days will. I’ve always loved my career, but that advice has helped me so much during the days that do feel like work.
@JustATotalNerd2 жыл бұрын
I can't. If I'm passionate about something, doing it for work will only kill my passion for it. My job brings me satisfaction since I get to help people and that does bring me joy, but I would never in a million years do my job for free. I just found the work that feels like work, but doesn't bring me any bitterness
@ghfan20112 жыл бұрын
@@JustATotalNerd I see where you’re coming from, but being passionate about something doesn’t have to mean you’d do it for free. It just means you enjoy doing it and/or you believe in the mission behind what you do. As an example, I’m a software engineer for a defense contractor. I enjoy designing and writing software, and I believe in our mission to help our military more effectively defend the country. However, I’d never in a million years do my work for free. It can be mentally draining. I’d rather spend that unpaid time with my family.
@firefly98382 жыл бұрын
@@JustATotalNerd agreed
@BbB-vr9uh2 жыл бұрын
Dave is like “I wanna hear your response” and then talks over the other guy the whole time.
@Joefest992 жыл бұрын
🤦♂️ If you listen to his “UNEDITED LECTURE” on this topic which he has given NUMEROUS TIMES, he repeatedly says “Do not quit your current job without having something else lined up.” He even goes as far as to say to have an alternative job offer EVEN if you are just going to negotiate a higher salary! For Goodness’ sake, do your research people!
@newagain99642 жыл бұрын
What does “lined up” mean? As in a job offer is forthcoming? Or you have multiple interviews scheduled with hope one will lead to an offer?
@tylerwirtz1243 ай бұрын
I think he meant offer @newagain9964
@canadiankid422 жыл бұрын
JP is a true leader. He'd make a great PM. Canada is lucky to have him. Get him on the show!
@M.....................2 жыл бұрын
... maybe check his recent thoughts about racialized people in academia. I love democracy smh
@STOPPEDINCOLORADO2 жыл бұрын
@@M..................... What does "racialized people" even mean, my guy.
@caseywhite31502 жыл бұрын
The cabal would never allow it
@suekennedy15952 жыл бұрын
So wrong
@Mr_Fairdale2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a lot of different jobs before I settled into my career. Most of the time, when a job was miserable it was the people I worked with who made it miserable. I worked a warehouse in college. The job itself was fine. I actually liked driving a forklift around and didn’t mind being cold lol. I just hated the whining, complaining losers that I worked with. They acted like the sky was falling every time we had a problem or lots of work to do. Similar experiences elsewhere I worked. I kinda miss the summer nights with the bay doors open and country music on the little radio haha.
@Gh0stInTheMachines812 жыл бұрын
Same problem I've been having. It's never the job itself, but the people that always ruin it for me.
@taylorjeffords17192 жыл бұрын
Dave for the pocketbook, Peterson for the spirit.
@BandasPalette2 жыл бұрын
Amen, and if Dave and Ken both actually listened to JP, they would understand that JP actually says the same thing they say, just gives deep references to the origins of their meanings.
@dashjustice1148 Жыл бұрын
@@BandasPalette And Dr. Peterson says it in far fewer words
@rakeau2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see JP as a guest. Definitely make it happen!
@Force5_Eye_Dev2 жыл бұрын
Peterson is speaking to the psychology and analysis of taking the leap to get out of a dead end job. These two are talking about the rational logic movement to the next step. It’s a bit like two different discussions.
@brianparrett1142 жыл бұрын
Every life is a dead end so why does it matter if our jobs are too?
@Force5_Eye_Dev2 жыл бұрын
I personally don’t think there is such thing as a dead end job (so much as that job earns money or skills). I’m typing this in passing on my way out the door so apologies if there isn’t a follow up reply. Have a good one.
@melanieb21322 жыл бұрын
@@brianparrett114 that's hyperindividualism to a fault and terrible nihilism. My life is not a dead end, because the circle of life continues through my children and others to whom I showed love, wisdom, and skills. Change your life philosophy, man.. it sucks.
@bt84692 жыл бұрын
@@brianparrett114 Just because you CAN think up a frame of reference through which you can come to conclusion that life doesn't matter, that doesn't mean that you are using a proper frame of reference. If we use the ability to think up a frame of reference that dwarfs the importance of anything, then we can effectively minimize the importance of everything, and that is a mode of existence that terminates in chaos. Just because life seems to be a dead end, doesn't mean that your life doesn't matter. Who are you and I to say that life is a dead end anyway? Just because you can't conceive the idea of continued existence beyond the here and now, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, and I would caution us to be careful about assuming it doesn't.
@d.minaru77072 жыл бұрын
@@melanieb2132 Maybe some people don't have what you have, ever thought about that? Change your mind and open it up.
@desmondmontgomery674010 ай бұрын
Jordan Peterson speaks from the perspective of the people he is helping, the ones who deal with these fears every day. He's helping them be brave by understanding that there is just as much risk in not taking the leap of faith, so they might as well go for it.
@lynnebucher65372 жыл бұрын
Remember, you were looking for a job when you found the job you currently have. So as long as you quietly job search while keeping the current job, you are only risking rejection and risking that the new job won't live up to what you expected. It's not fatal. That said, if you're 60+ you should strongly consider staying put until retirement.
@littleripper3122 жыл бұрын
Also getting rejected from jobs while currently employed isn't anywhere near as bad as being rejected when you're unemployed. Looking for jobs when it's not an emergency really isn't that bad and has the potential to drastically improve your life. Even if someone isn't miserable in their job it's not bad to keep an eye out and look for better opportunities.
@Cecibug12 жыл бұрын
Judging by the comments we all love Dave and Jordan. Let's make an episode happen please 🙏 both these men have changed my life.
@brandont45032 жыл бұрын
Dave needs to be quiet sometimes and let the cohost fully explain their thoughts
@Culture-and2 жыл бұрын
This is the problem when you only watch a clip and don't have the full context of the conversation. Would love to see this collab!
@Krisbcream12 жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson should come on the Ramsay show
@veronicawilliams32982 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen Dave cut anyone off as many times as he just did in this video lol
@vikaschmidt18392 жыл бұрын
cause ken got in. attitude mode with him when he said I dont think you see the context and perspective Peterson is coming from so Ken Got egotistical and seen the way his voice, tone changed and Dave had mean mug face on him after he had his flare of disconnect but I agree with Dave and Peterson its better for your mental health to get a job you Can peace of mind about in morals and honor and all virtuous principles that gives you peace of mind .
@adamseidel97802 жыл бұрын
This is a good example of why you listen to multiple people with different perspectives and different expertises and then learn good judgement to make a decision. Ramsey is an expert at a type of financial management with a focus on very low-risk strategies. Peterson is an expert on psychology with a focus on creating personal fulfillment and peace through responsibility and self cultivation. They are even discussing exactly the same thing. Listen to both, and many more, and learn to use good judgement to make a decision based on all that input.
@cybertrk2 жыл бұрын
You missed the point Peterson is saying the risk is rejection on looking for new career. Not saying it’s not a risk worth taking… it’s absolutely worth taking is what he’s saying… he’s just talking to the point that fear of risk of rejection is normal and to use that knowledge to leap over it and go for that new opportunity.
@seanhensley41412 жыл бұрын
I enjoy what Dave and Jordan said as two separate ideas. I equate what Jordan was saying about the gap between the known and the unknown. You can be miserable in your current position but at least you know what to expect. Or you can take a gamble and hope that where you move to is better.
@mycaddigo2 жыл бұрын
Jordans Petersons point was simply that even if it’s really hard to find the next job, it’s still worth it ….
@ClaxtonBay1232 жыл бұрын
Out of all the Ramsey personalities Dave and Ken just don't seem to mix at all. 😂
@David-wo9un2 жыл бұрын
George kisses up to him so they get along fine; I guess George knows who butters his bread.😂😂
@ElainesDomain2 жыл бұрын
@Prey R Nope
@dariusd10902 жыл бұрын
I really needed to hear this today. I need to change my mindset of what I really should be afraid of... Staying in a job I don't love. Time to continue the grind.
@absw61292 жыл бұрын
I think one can also learn to love their job. I work in a warehouse, and my job involves a lot of heavy lifting. Living in Sweden, I also do a lot of work in cold weather. I didn't like it at first, but over time, I started enjoying the fact that I get to move around a lot, I'm almost never bored because there's always stuff to do, I can eat what I want because I burn so many calories (got in shape after being overweight most of my life), and there's a ton of variety on top of that. It's pretty awesome.
@awf26662 жыл бұрын
As much as I like both Ramsey and Peterson, I hope this show doesn’t turn into a regular “Dave reacts to” kind of channel.
@domainationteam2 жыл бұрын
i know!!!
@jrwntctv80912 жыл бұрын
We're talking about five minutes of a daily two hour show. Only about 15% of the content (the highlights) makes it to this channel
@willyisaac39552 жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to hear a conversation between Dave and Jordan 😂😂 omg that would be to die for. Great minds both of them.
@Kaktus9652 жыл бұрын
Listen to Peterson on the Sunday Special with Ben Shapiro. Also very good 👍
@PassRush492 жыл бұрын
Ramsey is no match for Jordan's wit.
@candacemitchell67732 жыл бұрын
We love Jordan Petterson! He is a great mind! we have listened to him a lot .
@777gooseful2 жыл бұрын
Jp and Dave have helped out with so many life lessons.
@nedbymicklemarket73702 жыл бұрын
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@senseofstile2 жыл бұрын
I am retired now but, I worked as an RN. I switched jobs several times during my career. The two factors involved were work load and money. If management decided to put too much of a work load, this can be dangerous. You can always get another job but, you can never get another license. The money situation is obvious. One job switch, I got a lower work load with a 20% pay increase.
@botticelli7282 жыл бұрын
All these abilities in terms of getting and keeping jobs and climbing the ladder/developing a career are skills that need to be taught beginning in middle school at the latest. A lot of kids are expected to just know this stuff and to know how to study and learn, and it's not necessarily innate.
@greyhigg73002 жыл бұрын
I greatly disagree. The ones who belong at the top will figure out how to get there. The ones who don’t won’t. Getting to the top is not something that everyone should be able to achieve, it would then no longer be the top. Those who put the time in on their own and develop skills to increase their value are the ones who we should want at the top.
@botticelli7282 жыл бұрын
@@greyhigg7300 That's nuts! That's like saying to Dave Ramsey, "Don't bother to teach financial skills to people; if they can't figure it out on their own, then they deserve to be poor." People can choose to take career-building advice or not, but if they're not exposed to these concepts at all, they're at a disadvantage.
@MichaelReginald2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you.
@greyhigg73002 жыл бұрын
@@botticelli728 It is not nuts and your analogy doesn't accurately represent the scenario at all.
@sidneybristow8152 жыл бұрын
Jordan is keen on the saying, “Don’t throw your pearls before swine”. He tells people to focus on a goal, but it won’t be a straight path to success. You miss or adjust and goals shift, but keep moving towards it. Bad jobs can kill your body and spirit. You must treat yourself like someone you care about so you can keep growing. “There are two major reasons for resentment: being taken advantage of (or allowing yourself to be taken advantage of), or whiny refusal to adopt responsibility and grow up.” - Jordan Peterson. You must find some responsibility to bear in order for life to have meaning. If you can’t make a situation at work better, it may be risky to get out, but staying it worse.
@jmossbernee10452 жыл бұрын
Lol dave doesn't let anyone finish a thought.
@mysticsmoothie5302 жыл бұрын
Ong
@shakimaesprit26412 жыл бұрын
He can't complete a full thought without Dave interrupting him.
@Mosesusorer2 жыл бұрын
True haha! Dave is high on caffeine today 😂😂
@ci91302 жыл бұрын
Irritating hearing Dave rudely, rudely interrupting! 🙄
@cutenobi2 жыл бұрын
OMG. Dave was on another level with interrupting on this segment.
@itsmi93522 жыл бұрын
the other guy got defensive real quick, whitou even having to, guess he thought JP was telling people to not change jobs.
@luv2trvl627 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad they finally addressed the issue of having a job you love that doesn't feel like a job because you love it so much. I love what I do, and still get tired at the end of the day, there are still stressful days, etc.
@collinmorelock49112 жыл бұрын
Oh my god worlds colliding. Next thing I know we're gonna get Dave on JRE, or vice versa🤣
@fauxbro19832 жыл бұрын
Never question the algorithm
@Lindsay_Lexus2 жыл бұрын
I want more of this! Can Dave react to Jordan Peterson more??? 😂 I may have enjoyed this way too much!
@b.sharp.2 жыл бұрын
That wasn't Paterson's opinion. He was trying to use people's excuses against them. He was just trying to prove that even though one thing is hard, the alternative is still much worse.
@josephduncan4356 Жыл бұрын
One thing to remember for me at least is that starting a new job creates a ton of stress in learning new stuff, working with new colleagues, and re-proving myself. Not a reason to stay in a bad spot but something to remember before leaving.
@javierhuizar42072 жыл бұрын
Ken: "I love a good argument" Dave: Constanly interrupts Ken. Ken:
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@gonnahavemesomefun2 ай бұрын
Funnily it was a combination of JP and Dave that helped me sort my finances. JP said "face up to your fear, you know what it is" I had to literally look in the mirror and simultaneously ask and tell myself that my fear was my finances. In facing up to them during my search I found Dave and he said "get the hell out of debt and stop buying stuff you don't need and can't afford". So I did that. Three years ago. Now I have gone from a negative net worth to $580k and a house that will be paid of in 2.5 years. Thank you Dave, and JP.
@JJamesV22 жыл бұрын
Wow you guys missed the mark entirely
@andrewy35972 жыл бұрын
Dave/Ken is my least favorite host combination. Dave constantly interrupts Ken. It’s uncomfortable to watch and listen to
@JordanJimmyDavison2 жыл бұрын
Peterson is a gift from God
@stevensmith47062 жыл бұрын
He's getting there. Ever hear of C.S. Lewis?
@ricoender80202 жыл бұрын
@Prey R I concur with Steven Smith. Peterson is reaching a tipping point. With his daughter now believing and his wife having been an influence his entire life it's close.
@christinebutler76302 жыл бұрын
It's just too bad he's such a misogynist.
@JordanJimmyDavison2 жыл бұрын
@@christinebutler7630 he is not. Not sure if your being intentionally misleading or your just misinformed.
@christinebutler76302 жыл бұрын
@Jordan Dynamite I've read plenty of his stuff, including things he's published in the psych world, not just the media. If I had had to have a guy like him as a professor I'd have had a hard time finishing, because he doesn't think women deserve higher education. He'd have us all back in the kitchen.
@Dixielinemuzik Жыл бұрын
Your peace of mind is more important than any job you have at the moment. A year ago, I quit a job that I had worked at for about 5 years. The pay was great, but the people werent, and my mental was diclining. I didnt have a plan when I quit, all I had was 2600 in savings, some assets, no credit, and lived in a cheap rental. Took me 3 monthes to find another job. I changed trades, took atleast a $10k-$15k/yr pay cut. But now, a year later, Im well into my new job, love it, make as much as I did at my old job, great credit, have $20k liquid (saved every dollar I could, and sold off a chunk of my assets), and am now looking to buy my first home. Sometimes, quitting is a good thing!
@christophersmithey14902 жыл бұрын
Did yall listen to the whole interview? Peterson followed that up by saying "There's no secure path...there are risks." It's not doom and gloom, it's saying if you are expecting a risk free path forward, there's not one.
@sn4rl277 Жыл бұрын
Best part of this video is Dave saying he would like to have Jordan on the show. Lets GO!!!!
@TedFarabee2 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty easy. Avoid debt, save and the risk to change jobs is minimal. Make sure a job is not a dead end before you take on a mortgage. Work hard. If you become wealthy-goody- but don’t pursue wealth. It’s a trap. Material is mortal error. Never expect an inheritance. Let your kid’s use wisdom and make their own darn money. Where is the terrifying risk?
@jledesma1175 Жыл бұрын
Damn… You guys dropped the ball on this one. Hey , nobody’s perfect! lol Still love you guys
@justen79942 жыл бұрын
Dave is great, and their advice and message here are correct. However, it's a small section of a conversation, and with peterson you have to listen to it all and this was just a small part of it.
@BillSmith-xm2tl Жыл бұрын
When I was 14 I was given the opportunity to sell product door to door. I was (& still am) afraid of dogs. I made excellent money for a 14 YO at the time. One weekend i 'fretted' about the dogs i would encounter the next week but the supervisor assured me and I continued. The following weekend, I lost sleep worrying. I went in Monday morning and quit. At 14 I resolved that if I hated going to work 2 Mondays in a row - I would quit on that second Monday. I had a LOT of jobs in my life and the only one I kept where I worked multiple Mondays in a row and hated my work was when I worked for myself doing really boring consulting. I was my own boss - and wouldn't accept my own resignation!! (humor) The only thing I didn't do well, was plan for retirement. If I had perhaps run across Dave Ramsey early enough, I would be in a better position today. My brother worked at a job for 25 years and probably 'hated' it (maybe a bit strong) for almost 20 of those years. But in the end - he had 6 weeks paid vacation and retired early with a pension. I envy him. Word of advice to the young... listen to Dave and team, but find a job that makes Monday something to look forward to, almost as much as Friday.
@urielreyes18442 жыл бұрын
As a huge fan of Theo von and Dave Ramsey, it’s crazy seeing them both on the same screen lol GANG GANG
@reaccionapr4 ай бұрын
1:57 “I’d love to argue with him” Easy little man 😂
@jorgeortega46752 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see this
@joshuatalksmoney2 жыл бұрын
I think the key is to be intentional and take calculated risks. If you’re underpaid or undervalued at a job and miserable, you should be proactive to improve your situation and create a plan to do so all while mitigating risk.
@takeitback-financial28082 жыл бұрын
There’s a balance. If you’re struggling. Make a plan. Be logical and don’t let your current emotions create additional future issues.
@AtotheZ72 жыл бұрын
Dave! Let Ken get one full sentence in, please! Lay off the caffeine. Ken was saying some great stuff that got interrupted. "When we see a desired future, we will endure pain.". That is amazing line from Ken
@Mosesusorer2 жыл бұрын
Ken: “When we see a desired future, we w--“ Dave: “so Ken, what is the difference between blah blah…” Fixed it for you
@shaylaahava64132 жыл бұрын
🤣😂
@sconnell17912 жыл бұрын
More context is needed. He doesn't advocate just jumping ship without a plan. He has done this type of thing with his clinical psychology clients for many years. TikTok is not necessarily the best medium for showing the full context of what a long-form discussion is entailing and that's what JP does.
@ericcriteser40012 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you need to shove it down, smile and get it done. Not forever, but if you have goals, you can tolerate a lot for the sake of the mission. If I knew as a 20 year old what I know as a 45 year old, I would be much farther ahead, but that's the point. Work hard and learn while you're young so you don't have to work as hard when you're old.
@Danieleleonhdz2 жыл бұрын
You should invite him over to the show for a productive conversation. You both could learn a lot from each other.
@phi-net2437 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave, keeping me motivated. First job out of college and I'm at the rock bottom of a global company. Back breaking work, with hopes to move up.
@grantonclem5992 жыл бұрын
They judged a short video and came to insane conclusions that are addressed in the full interview. Do your research Ramsey Team
@archellebranch8517 Жыл бұрын
"settling for suck" lol 😂😂. Using that in my next debate
@dieterich65332 жыл бұрын
It’s just my opinion, but money management is usually the cause of unhappiness. Sometimes it’s the environment, but it’s the labor without getting a result in the future that effects most people. Conversely speaking, Mission is definitely important, imagine the great pyramids were built with mission in mind, not necessarily money. Either case a future result is important.
@malcolmturner1102 жыл бұрын
Facts cuz idk what there saying
@beachbum51189 ай бұрын
years and years ago I worked for the post office. A friend of mine hated his job at the PO and I said what do you want to work at. He said I want to work in the film industry but they won't pay me hardly anything. I said "oh you're making so much here I feel for you. Why aren't you somewhere where they make movies instead of whining here. A couple of days later he came into the office and said I'm quitting today and moving to LA. He came back two years later to thank me and told me "I'm still not making a lot of money but I love my work and I meeting people who have the same love of what we're all doing and I can see a great future just doing the work I'm loving to do. I always hope he succeeded but happy he didn't have to work his life at the PO.
@unsuckified31922 жыл бұрын
You miss one important thing. Some jobs will find a way to FIRE YOU if they find you are looking for another job! New jobs like to investigate your current work whether they do that above board or not. ALSO, getting a good job search and interviews in without interfering with common work hours at your current job can also be difficult. They seem to miss the real world application of job change.
@blackworldtraveler37112 жыл бұрын
Something you need to workout for yourself. You want detailed and personalized real world advice it has to be more than a 5-10 minute phone call from KZbin video snips aimed at the masses for profit.
@whbgegs55712 жыл бұрын
Use a head hunter or agency and you will be anonymous.
@unsuckified31922 жыл бұрын
@@whbgegs5571 I was just speaking in the general sense. It isn't so cut and dried to do it the right way. Also, I'm in Law Enforcement and there is no anonymous situation. For certain the worst career for gossip and everyone knowing your biz.
@ladyvignette2 жыл бұрын
Their focus is earning money and frugality. Jordan's focus is your mental health, as a psychologist.
@Alex12344962 жыл бұрын
Dave let the man talk mate!
@NukaRibeyeC12s2 жыл бұрын
This is the best video you guys have done in a while
@gavinv48072 жыл бұрын
Kenneth, like you, I appreciate a good collar. Sorry, Mr. Bossman keeps interrupting you. You're increasing your risk by staying there.
@EmmaElYe2 жыл бұрын
I needed this. Thanks!
@jasersaleh14502 жыл бұрын
I’d pay top dollar to hear a 2hr session with Peterson and Dave.
@grammarhammer38172 жыл бұрын
Peterson-Ramsey Show = RATINGS THROUGH THE ROOF!! America’s & Canada’s Dads unite 🤗
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@frobeck14872 жыл бұрын
I’m sure Dave would love Theo Von.
@vanesslifeygo2 жыл бұрын
I say take the plunge when you can. It can change you -- if you are the kind of person that wants to change in getting out of the job they don't want. You have another option too - make a connection to distract you from work.