The New MacBook Pro - M1 Max/Pro

My review of the new 14 and 16" M1 Pro and Max MacBooks are coming soon. Here's are my early thoughts
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[@Dave2D]

i hope apple's charts are wrong

[@ratuldeoun7228]

The performance is going to be off the charts

[@smoche]

No way they pull of THAT on Battery but GG's if they do

[@nobody9706]

I hope not

[@flamingkillermc2806]

bruh

[@yokie8472]

I hope they’re right

[@KevDoy]

We said “too good to be true” about the M1 last year, too. Insane times.

[@kellywu4061]

Imagine M2 maturing the platform

[@Racko.]

Cant imagine anything more powerful than the new M1 Pro and Max, it feels almost surreal that a laptop is capable of such power with all of these features that come with it

[@marcin6386]

yeaaa, but at the end it was coming with huge price tag.

[@RussDnB]

@@marcin6386 Sounds about right to me. If people wanna spend less, they get less.

[@amashaziz2212]

@@Racko. There will most likely be CPUs more powerful than the M1 Max’s CPU by next year, and it’s GPU is already beaten in performance by full-power rtx 3080. The real surreal reality will be if the M1 Max performs as well as apple claims, at only around 60 watts, which is unheard of in the laptop space. That’s the massive deal here. Not the performance.

[@AmaxterPlays]

Not even a minute in and this man gets into GPUs and wattage. This is why we love Dave!

[@elmalloc]

4 million subscribers, how!!! AMazing.

[@conehawk4054]

@@elmalloc he’s good at conveying these ideas to schmucks like me

[@kartikgarasia5685]

I have seen many initial impressions videos but only dave talks about gpu charts in this details

[@neubauerjoseph]

Apple people be like it’s 200x more powerful then a top of the line desktop replacement gaming laptop or workstation.

[@oleksandrbespalov9713]

I'm not sure who cares about comparing a new something processor to old abstract processor. We would see real thing like fps charts in modern games instead of those pretty illustrations. If the new m1 processor is a real thing of course. But now we cannot even be sure it can run at least some of modern games

[@RayMak]

Love how Apple comes in to wake AMD and Intel up from their comfort zone slumber. Things are starting to get very exciting. Hope we have enough chips to go around.

[@fVNzO]

That's not really a fair statement. Amd doesn't have any comfort zone. They're literally fighting for their existence. Don't believe for a second they won't push with everything imaginable. Intel hasn't been in their comfort zone for quite some time now either. They're just far behind in process tech. But believe me, they're scrambling. No ones sitting idle atm. Nvidia are kinda sandbagging though.

[@maadaaraa9344]

@Caskay And how did you see his comments ? Lol

[@Racko.]

AMDs worst nightmare is about to become true

[@goncaloduarte4683]

I don't think so, AMD's current 5800U was already better in MT performance then the M1, Intel's new Alder Lake mobile CPUs should also be better then the CPUs in the M1 Pro and M1 Max in every way. We have to rember that these M1s aren't going to compete with current AMD and Intel CPUs, they are competing with next gen Intel and AMD CPUs and those will be far better then what's currently on the market, Alder Lake U will have 6 performance cores and 8 efficiency cores while AMD's Zen 4 will go up to 16 cores on laptops if rumors are true. In GPUs we will have to see, these charts look like BS, but who knows, but even then the M1 iGPUs lack features like RT acceleration.

[@amashaziz2212]

@@goncaloduarte4683 5800U is impressive. And I love that chip. But u being so over-confident thinking the M1 Max will be beaten so easily by alder lake is quite a poor way to react. By that time apple might already have the M2 closer to release.

[@edren106]

I just love how the performance and efficiency gains are so unbelievable that even Dave is hoping that they are wrong otherwise the competitors will look fucking silly in comparison lol.

[@atishsingh8926]

I actually hope they are right, because this would be the first time I will support Apple regarding their pricing. It will be genuinely justified this time around.

[@revandewaputra4239]

@@atishsingh8926 the current m1 macbooks is reasonably priced imo, definitely way faster than any windows ultrabook counterpart

[@atishsingh8926]

@@revandewaputra4239 now they are, and air is as well but they weren't always especially considering the keyboard issue, ports and other thermal issue. now their prices are justified for their performance

[@lilmoris1]

They already looked silly with the first M1 and it was half-baked, someone call 911, Intel and AMD are getting fucking destroyed

[@official_pol2198]

@@lilmoris1 lmao, soon to be nvidia too.

[@Justin.Franks]

4:16 Regarding the more powerful 140W adaptor on the 16" models versus the 96W one on the 14", remember that in the announcement, Apple claimed fast charging for 30 minutes would give a 50% charge on both models. The 16" has a ~40% larger battery (100Wh vs 70Wh), so it will need ~40% more wattage to obtain this.

[@matthewmanzi9504]

also the larger battery will be able to support a higher charge wattage.

[@MyJohnrox]

Hopefully the wattage difference doesn’t impact performance between the two too much

[@OTechnology]

I mean it makes sense the larger device can also support a higher TDP SOC.

[@ferraribenben2011]

Apple do actually state the 16 inch model is more capable than 14 inch one with the same component. In the "which chip is right for you" section of each model's configuration page, apple claims 5 streams of 8k ProRes 422 for the 14 inch, while 7 streams for the 16 inch.

[@ferraribenben2011]

btw the chart for m1max CPU tops wattage at 30w, and GPU tops at 60w, so combined it's about 100w for the chip alone, which the 96w supply that comes with the 14 inch model can't even match.

[@thedrunknmunky6571]

I wish that more tech KZbinrs talked about performance in engineering apps like CAD or EDA. We’re professionals too.

[@GarrettBroadnax]

Exactly. Unf since most CAD packages can only be run through a VM (hopefully that changes soon) it's hard to offer any substantial metrics. HOWEVER, Apple's website does have comparison graphs for a CFD package, which is nice.

[@innocentiuslacrim2290]

It is really difficult to find benchmarks even on Excel capabilities and it is THE most used business reporting software. Hardware Unboxed had their own "Big number crunch test", but I think thats it. People just run a bunch of synthetic tests that may or may not convert to real life performance.

[@MikeCobweb]

@@GarrettBroadnax That’s my grief with these new machines. They’re powerful, efficient, and amazing but sometimes I need apps that run only on Windows, and since these machines no longer have a native way of switching to windows aka bootcamp it’s hard to buy them. I heard Apple are up to the task but Microsoft are the ones that need to make an ARM version of windows for it to work.

[@TerraPosse]

@@MikeCobweb This! I recently just had to buy a new Windows laptop even though I'd have preferred an M1 Macbook for site work where battery life is really useful. Alas some of the engineering apps I use will only run on Windows (and that barely sometimes). 😒

[@th3o83]

The problem is that most of youtubers/creators are self-referential, so they care only about video and photo editing. It's not so easy to find an opinion with a professional or technical eye.

[@potato7810]

everyone said "too good to be true" about m1 too and it turned out unbelievably good... I think these new chip will also blow everyone's mind

[@wizcombo]

Lol why would they lie. Also from pure engineering standpoint, if you have an architecture where everything is unified and don’t have too many gates to access each part like ram/processor, that is a recipe for success. Also the amount of transistors on that 5nm structure allows them to basically make something like a 32 core gpu small and blazing fast

[@mikezpo]

I bought the M1 macbook air, and I'm absolutely in love with it. The power, battery life, screen resolution. Simply amazing! These new ones are even more jaw dropping

[@KitsGravity]

I know right? The battery is amazing! 16-20 hours! And the screen is 2K which at that price point is unheard of! And M1 is just mwaah! I love my Air. First Mac I ever bought.

[@meco]

I just love how Dave straight up pulled the comparison Laptops out lmao

[@sail4horizon]

He should have laid a current MBP13 on top for comparison since the new 14 is a similar footprint.

[@wanem1622]

You know...! 😂

[@StevenEveral]

I was thinking the same thing when Apple was showing those charts. They were comparing the new Macbook Pro to the MSI GE76 and Razer Blade 17.

[@stare4539]

Eee

[@AlejandroLZuvic]

@@StevenEveral 15*

[@psivewri]

Great to hear your perspective as always Dave!

[@Windows11Pro22]

Hello Nathan

[@tamiwu0346]

nice to see you here mr eucalyptus

[@ratuldeoun7228]

Now can we get your perspective on the new MacBook Pro?

[@StreetSmrtNtrmt]

🤩🤩

[@dinkarfowkar999]

Spray some Eucalyptus oil on these Macs

[@teejmorrison]

Competition like this is always so exciting for the industry. Pumped to see hands-on impressions!

[@jacobcarandang8618]

Crazy that apples ~10 Tflop GPU can outperform or match a 3080 with ~15 tflops GPU. And when both are on battery power it’ll make the 3080 look like a toaster.

[@randompersondfgb]

Are you talking about the RTX3080 mobile? Because that does not seem like it would be 15 Teraflops..

[@antoniojg-b8284]

So does that mean gaming on a MacBook Pro ?

[@Apocalymon]

@@antoniojg-b8284 that's what their new video ads are signaling. The one for M1 Max highlights professional 3D rendering & playing video games. It's so bizarre seeing such an ad from them. I thought it was Razer marketing at first.

[@vivek_v]

You have to be careful with that comparison because not all apps support M1. Blender is a great example, and a 3080 will annihilate the M1 Max (since M1 can only render with CPU). However, that might change in a few years once more apps start supporting M1. However, there are many apps that already support M1.

[@zachpw]

Zhong Ze, Apple actually just joined the Blender development fund the other day! They’ve submitted one commit about Metal support so I imagine it will be compatible soon enough. Very exciting times for Blender folks.

[@funnyizer]

I love how plain simple and direct Dave’s videos are with just a single “A-roll” instead of switching locations and all, could just be me but I like plain and simple and direct videos

[@Austin_Boath]

Small world, wasn’t expecting to see you here!

[@funnyizer]

@Male Sensitivity True

[@funnyizer]

@@Austin_Boath Lmfao Hi Scally, guess we both are geeking out over the new macs

[@smallworld707]

@@Austin_Boath sup!!! 😉

[@amashaziz2212]

@Male Sensitivity mkbhd only reads specs most of the time. Doesn’t really know how to deep dive into the tech inside laptops. Just look at his new macbook pro reaction video. He basically summed up what apple said. Dave went into a bit more detail which I like.

[@nizham12345]

Absolutely loved this impressions vid. I love how u picked out the key bones of contentions and drew out tested comparisons. Ive been waiting to trade in my 2015 pro so thank you for sharing your knowledge !!

[@tonyli1379]

Love your remarks, Dave. They are very candid and useful. Thank you.

[@vanbastel]

It's the first time in history that Apple labeled their charts so it must be true

[@ariesleo7396]

I mean just look at the die size

[@desaturated6049]

remember I used to laugh at the M1 chart with those x3 performances with just a simple line. But after seeing how the M1 mac perform, I no longer laughing at the M1pro/Max chart now.

[@abdurali8855]

It’s really that good?!

[@injecthd5252]

@@abdurali8855 Coming from an M1 user, yes. Seems like an overkill at this point for the average user.

[@abdurali8855]

@@injecthd5252 sheesh, that’s pretty cool

[@LittleMissSmallPaw]

@@injecthd5252 M1 Max just isn't for average users. They are not called MacBook Pro for no reason (at least those new ones) If you are an average user, 13" M1 Pro and Air are absolutely fine. easy as that!

[@august5447]

@@abdurali8855 M1 is really really good for productivity. I'm a windows user but I didn't mind learning MacOS for the battery efficiency of this chip.

[@everjust23]

great review, i like how u discussed the comparison laptops and have experience with them

[@avarillas75]

Dave, thanks for all the useful technical work you put together for us viewers.

[@lostboi2271]

Really appreciate you talking about the laptops that were used in the charts and putting those charts into some actual perspective

[@lenardz]

I really enjoy your perspective. You can really tell the difference with the engineering background, it’s more nuanced and technical instead of just hype. Thank you. Looking forward to your review on the M1 Pro and M1 Max.

[@florianbusch3082]

So Dave. The algorithm send me to your channel and I can’t believe it’s 2021 and I’m still discovering channels with more than 3 million subs just now. But yet I instantly subscribed, because you’re so nice to listen to. The fact that you’re not (obviously) cutting your vids is phenomenal, always great to have someone on KZbin with rhetorical skills. Keep on, I already love this channel and I’m hands down just 3 videos into it. :)

[@distortedpalace]

i’m eagerly waiting for your full review! thanks as always!!

[@alter-ego-]

This is exactly why we love your videos.. true reactions, talking about the things that actually matter to normal users. I was also confused about their choice in wattage. No other reviewers talking about it!

[@kasra7945]

Man that teal case really shines in the background. What a great frame!

[@adigunolamide3230]

I learn about tech every time I watch your videos the detailed explanations, always feels like I'm in class or something thank you.

[@omersubasi7372]

Dave, thanks for these in-depth thoughts! I ordered mine: 14 with 10-core CPU and 14-core GPU.

[@MonicaHolly143]

Pains me to say that Macbook with M1s are actually the best priced laptops out there

[@caesar8875]

They're actually going to make me crawl back to apple and get one huh...

[@chrisak49]

Power/efficiency to price ratio Apple is killing everyone since M1. Add in resale value and seriously idk why Intel exists.

[@andrew-qf4xl]

having no windows might be a big turn off for a lot of students ,me included

[@ACE112ACE112]

We'll see when they are released. The price tag is really high for these

[@jasonlee6707]

@@andrew-qf4xl if you're a student, you probably don't need even need a MacBook tbh

[@Apple_Slices.]

With your new teal build the background looks so clean and nice. The style of your videos is just premium.

[@muckach9872]

Seen ALL the reviews but i was waiting for this !

[@faisalkhan1026]

always a delight to watch your review.

[@badex3301]

Always insightful takes. Right up there as one of my favorite tech channel

[@basitwani44]

3:33 "I kinda hope they are lies, otherwise Windows laptops won't be same to me anymore." True pain!

[@lahmyaj]

4:05 - You’re the first KZbinr I’ve watched talk about the new Macs and to raise the idea that the 16” models might have higher operating power which would indeed make sense 👍🏻

[@Sayin42]

Great review/summary looking forward to the full product review in the future - got yourself a new sub and I’m here for the long haul

[@nathanael27]

That sigh at 3:21 .. I felt that

[@manasdixit]

I love how Dave is trying his best to curb his excitement for these MacBooks. Imagine if these graphs actually turn out to be true. Dave will be jumping with joy!

[@appleztooranges]

His excitement is the same to me when apple showed off their battery with the new iPhone 13s

[@semahj]

Honestly Apple has been pretty truthful in their recent marketing mumbo jumbo

[@MikeCobweb]

@@semahj Although these MacBooks, along side the iPad Mini 6 and the AirPods 3rd gen are the only devices worth purchasing from Apple. Everything else is skippable.

[@thebasketballhistorian3291]

I'd be jumping too. Would be no use for me to buy a PC for high-end stuff except for games and a few random programs. I literally will force myself to get used to Mac OS if these graphs are true.

[@karstdeviz3858]

yeah i feel him, i am a windows fanboy. but these things blow anything windows out of the water. i don't think anyone understands the bittersweetness i feel when looking at these, just imagine if macos had just as many games available as windows. it would be end game laptop material BY A LANDSLIDE.

[@ColeWithAGoal]

Would love to see some gaming benchmarks with the new M1 chips, looking forward to your future vids!

[@TengsWorldOfficial]

Thank you this is very informative. Watching here from Philippines 🇵🇭

[@Vasill.]

great video but side note: The back drop just looks unreal and so clean, LOVE IT

[@circlesarentcool]

This is great progress. It's hard to please everyone, but they have made a laptop that is focused on PRO users again, and that's what matters. This will sell very well and cements Apple's place with high end users.

[@Timeculture]

I never knew they had a place with such users I. The first place.😂 No “high end” user is hangingvtheir cap on Apple, all you favorite KZbinrs have windows machine work flows #facts

[@circlesarentcool]

@@Timeculture Yea I don't think anyone is denying the place of windows work flows. However, lots of users are increasingly streamlining into single ecosystems, for a lot of non-specialized users who still need high end performance, this will suffice. Generally any pressure on competitors is a good thing

[@saikatsaha1907]

That's cap

[@allgoesround]

@@Timeculture Facts? ALL favorites youtubers? You are a disgrace to factual people. If you know anything about facts, you would know not to fuel your statements with emotions and arrogance. Better not use the word if you are going to be petty.

[@saikatsaha1907]

@Kiel Enrique the only thing this macs can do is just graphics editing, and for those you spoke of all have a high end pc alongside mac, none of the KZbinr is dummm-----mbbbbb enough to main a m1 MacBook pro, MacBooks will never come close to windows until they give chance to every software or games available on windows in macOS, otherwise it's just some show off overpriced Chromebook

[@NecolasHamwi]

Simple review in simple terms. Very clear and approachable. Really love your content Dave

[@pandasambit15]

Short, crisp and to the point...as always.... That's why you are the best in Laptop reviews 👍😎

[@ratuldeoun7228]

The GPU on these new Macs are a beast. Imagine if we can game on that, more people would switch from PC to Mac. And it would also help out with the GPU shortage problem.

[@obye]

why would anyone want to game on a macbook? almost all games support windows 10/11

[@aayushgupta2154]

MacOS isn't optimised for gaming, these new chips are going to be extremely powerful in all tasks except gaming

[@ratuldeoun7228]

@@aayushgupta2154 Yea duh. But I was just saying if it was optimized for both professional work related stuff and gaming, they could easily make a lot of money like AMD and Nvidia.

[@obye]

@UC2mtkF938-wFnRYLScyJkvA i’m not being a hater i’m just saying it’s not logical to game on a macbook, macbooks are for photo/video editors and college students. If people wanted a computer to game on they would get a gaming pc.

[@mikexhotmail]

@@obye gaming pc also are very very good at photo/video editors /3d stuff/ VR ?

[@BenjaminRodriguezReyes]

I hope this spurs game developers to actually put work into the MacOS platform. Imagine this hardware with the kind of software support Windows enjoys, it would be enough to tempt a lot of people over to Mac.

[@droste4080]

Yea exactly. What good is all the power of there are no games (would totally widen apples target group) Of course there are also professionals that can use it.

[@Sodium779]

Still no Genshin Impact even though it's already on iOS (at 120fps!) and PC

[@VezWay007]

@@Sodium779 M1 Macs can run iOS apps tho

[@iliamanolov5926]

@@VezWay007 But devs can prevent Mac users from using their apps for "usability reasons" so you can't actually download Genshin Impact on a Mac through the App Store. You have to sideload it through shady means.

[@77dris]

I agree. I play a lot of AAA games on my 2015 iMac and they still run great (games from 2013-2019). Metal has really improved gaming performance and now with this hardware, there is no reason that we can't see even more games. Apple has been hiring and working on expanding their gaming platform this past year. Gaming is a huge money maker, greater than movies or music, so I'm sure Apple knows this.

[@the13thkillzone]

Love your videos man. Really appreciate your view on products.

[@ciaosng]

look forward to your upcoming review!

[@rg975]

Careful with those charts Dave. Whenever a company releases competitor charts, it’s usually in specific workloads that make them look amazing. Wait until you can actually test it. That being said, these new MacBooks look impressive. I’ve never wanted a MacBook before but these new models are compelling.

[@aidankreltszheim3599]

Well they did say the same thing for the regular m1 macs and they ended up being great (even better than claimed in some circumstances). But yeah we can’t know until they are tested so hopefully they live up to the claims

[@thinukawijerathne]

@@aidankreltszheim3599 exactly

[@Austin_Boath]

No, it’s stunning. Nothing anyone says is valid against this MacBook. Literally.

[@NMEofdaST8]

@@aidankreltszheim3599 yep apple knows what they are doing

[@konfusus]

This is the first time ever, that I would consider buying, if I wouldn't have just gotten that thick boy on his table 😄

[@wethepeoplegh]

The excitement in Dave's voice is what brings me to his channel always. ✌️

[@fluffykeebz]

Always appreciate and look forward to your take on this :D

[@arnoldjosephaguila5714]

Excited for your upcoming review! GODDAMN

[@lansoyanthan7652]

Best reaction video so far. Can't wait to see your hands on review.

[@AkshayKumar-qc4rz]

The whole world is waiting for the Dave2D full review man ❤️🔥

[@gsm156]

Excellent content and always informative.

[@daniellowetz5608]

I've ordered my 16" M1 Max. This will be my 3rd MacBook Pro since 2010. I made the switch from PC to mac in 2010 and have never looked back. Even my 2010 MacBook is still working. They are just sooooooo well built and reliable. I am a freelancer on the move who has put these things through quite a beating, and they just keep working.

[@Ethan7s]

Would love to see a collab with Project “we are going to test that” Farm.

[@raymondzrike2085]

Just grabbed the top end 16” (but with 32GB RAM and 1TB). As an owner of the previous M1 pro, it’s served my needs very well, but I have hit the 16GB cap a bunch of times editing video and doing color work. So the 32GB and the new display is a huge huge plus. And bringing back HDMI was such a smart move-I’ve had so many issues getting 4K/60 with adapters.

[@laputin710]

can you run fluid dynamaics, simulations and cad softwares on mac?

[@raymondzrike2085]

@@laputin710 That’s not really my area of expertise, but I think there are a lot of CAD applications that work on MacOS. Does seem like many popular ones have been updated to M1. But many are able to work through Rosetta 2 (like AutoDesk). CAD software tends to be very single-core dependent which the M1 computers excel at, so I wouldn’t be surprised by impressive performance.

[@truthseeker6804]

i use the m1 8gb edit 4k videos and i havent had any issue, maybe you're overexaggerating your issue to justify the new purchase.

[@raymondzrike2085]

@@truthseeker6804 Ok bud. Maybe we do different things with our hardware? Lol. I open Activity Monitor all the time, and I’ve seen my usage get up to 15.5Gb when doing work in Resolve while having Premiere open in the background idling (just so I can keep up with shot continuity). That’s just using 4K raw from a Sony FS5II. I have a project coming up that’s mixing Arriraw and 4K 16mm scans at 4444, so the 32GB will definitely be helpful. Especial if I intend to keep up with 6K/8K. Maybe the better GPU will take some of the load off the RAM, I’m not sure. I’m not quiiite tech savvy enough to understand completely the concept of memory sharing.

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

@@raymondzrike2085 Then you should get the 64GB model .... memory usage at 15.5gb doesn't mean it's having issues. Swapping is normal in modern OS. It's only a problem when you see stutter or visibly slowing in performance.

[@rakeshdhika9494]

Love the way explained the latest tech

[@slayer239]

Dave! Your studio is looking so much better now! All while staying so clean!!

[@Paulie8K]

I recently got a laptop with a 3080 and it's amazing but to see that type of power in a MacBook soc GPU is insane. I don't do creative work and primarily game so it's not for me but I'm very impressed.

[@innocentiuslacrim2290]

Lets see the real tests first.

[@BBQ465]

I am looking forward to see how the MacBook Pro 16 M1 Max GPU competes against the RTX3080 GPU. Unfortunately, Mac OS is not a gaming OS. Waiting to see how Windows OS is coming to MacBooks

[@AustinRoss]

@@innocentiuslacrim2290 In fairness, Apple undersold the M1 and completely overdelivered with benchmarks... so if they're making this claim... I think we're about to be VERY impressed.

[@GeckoClever]

@@AustinRoss They are literally half of a U-series AMD processor in multi-core...

[@dailyclash9624]

I never had any interest or money to buy these gadgets that dave reviews but it just so freaking good that i wait for a new video from him as if its the new Naruto episode

[@bradhaines3142]

boruto is so bad though

[@rando899]

Baryon mode is fire though

[@dailyclash9624]

@@bradhaines3142 haha, it is

[@zima2252]

Come on, no money I get it, but no interest?

[@dailyclash9624]

@@zima2252 yeah i mean i have a like a dell 7505 gaming laptop with intel i5 7th gen with gtx1050 so i get by ok for now.i would like to buy new and better things but its not a need

[@krishnakalavacharla8866]

Love love love this analysis!!

[@kemallast2429]

👍👍 simple and easy. Thank you Dave.

[@prajalrana5499]

0:33 it's 200GB/s and 400GB/s memory bandwidths not MBs

[@EMKWANREVIEWS]

Can't wait to play around with the 16" M1 Max MacBook Pro! Feel these Macs are going to poach a lot of windows users away! Well done Apple.

[@sunburst8810]

Windows users want to play video games so no lol

[@aculturedman.9172]

@@sunburst8810 I've built a PC for that. M1 air for everything else tho...

[@dutchvanderlinde9991]

@@sunburst8810 you would probably build a gaming desktop if you wanted to game. If I had to get a laptop; I would get a Mac.

[@Racko.]

@@sunburst8810 Nah sorry, the M1 generation of Macbooks are truly insane, Windows Desktop for Gaming though, M1 for everything else, including work, to make money

[@GoodlyRogue]

You can always find comparable in Windows for les expensive! It’s the same thing everytime! (Coming from an Apple user)

[@Orlan0_o]

Great quick impressions dave

[@facelen4321]

man this is a good review. First KZbin channel that took seriously this huge step: the chips and not "the ports"

[@conquererme]

These devices are just ssooo goood. The charts literally snatched the floor below my toes. They were so unbelievable.

[@StevieV]

@@hunsinger Not when you live in the basement.

[@cutiepie338]

Another iSheep falling for the dumbest marketing tricks. Have fun spending 2500 $ every 3 years on useless garbage "technology", iDiot

[@bycuritiba]

@@cutiepie338 imagine still saying stuff like this in 2021 go back to fucking 2012

[@sylviam6535]

@@cutiepie338 - Top of the range macs get 7-8 years of OS updates.

[@mushroom6321]

@@cutiepie338 please touch some grass its not that serious 😭

[@iamchoboy636]

Love to see Dave back on his chair finally 😂

[@PetrolHead48]

i CANNOT stop thinking about your question about the cursor interacting with the notch

[@gianpakasa]

Good point you made, about the charge.

[@matttheking1655]

3:02 Hearing Dave saying NO CAP, had me rolling...😆👌

[@NMEofdaST8]

So silly

[@MrRobotoDomo]

The wattage bump on the 16" is really just for the fast charging - since the 16" pro version is the same spec with the 14" except for the screen. Hardware level is just the bigger - juicier battery

[@ruzaroos]

We don’t know that yet. The 14 and 16 can be equipped with the same chip, but they may not run at the same wattage or have comparable cooling. It’s like all those random reviews last year trying to convince people that the 13 Pro was better than the Air because of the fan in the Pro. It’s basically why a RTX 3080 in a laptop doesn’t mean much until you know the wattage, hence the performance disparity of the two PC laptops referenced. We’ll see over the coming weeks the real differences.

[@sNaPiT]

Dave is dope.. genuine review as always 💛

[@FelipeCerdaBarra]

Love to see Dave's comments on this and the comparison with the gaming laptops he's familiar with.

[@zheil9152]

I think you got your units on the memory bandwidth mixed up at 0:33. DRAM is much faster than MBps. Should be 200 and 400GBps respectively

[@Nobody-xp6ip]

Yep

[@jlelelr]

unified spindle drive memory

[@oliverxjsxhjxhs4487]

Looking for this

[@Racko.]

Unified memory indeed

[@amashaziz2212]

Good catch man! I saw the specs during the presentation but still failed to notice the error here.

[@babogam]

Gosh I love Dave, these other guys are talking about ports and stuff

[@ryanbabcock5064]

As far as the battery life segment goes, I'm getting 11-13 hours of screen time with my ROG Flow x-13 (3050ti variant). That usage is web browsing with multiple tabs open while I take notes for my classes and with video time in there for my zoom lectures and recorded classes. The biggest thing for me is being able to get 4-5 hours out of it in performance mode to work on large CAD assemblies and Solidworks. I guess I beat the average windows battery life mark.

[@10secondsrule]

Very good observation regarding the wattage.

[@jooplin]

GPUs are 90% parallel processing. Having 32 cores and an insane memory amount will certainly help the GPU performance

[@zima2252]

A bot copied and pasted your comment, and got more likes lol

[@Nightmare-or2yd]

I don't think each of those "cores" is actually a single core on par with the ones in NVDIDIA and AMD GPUs. My guess is that each one contains a few hundred standard graphics processors, and Apple just simplified it for the layperson.

[@zackpalmer3704]

Yeah probably more on par with AMD compute units which are a collection of resources etc.

[@SimonBauer7]

@@zackpalmer3704 i think that too because with only 32 cores a gpu would be intel hd level of performance my guess is that it is more like a vega compute unit in the vega igpus

[@Sabitar1]

I cannot express enough how much I love watching your videos. You're just so genuine. You care so much about this stuff and it just shows, I cannot wait for you to review these new MacBooks and give your honest opinions. And this is coming from someone who will never buy a Mac or Apple products for that matter.

[@Chanville]

I got the MacBook Air last year with M1 chip and still till this day im impressed how incredible it is my windows work laptop can't compare with this base line MacBook Air and that says a lot can't wait to see the new M1 pro and max chips in action.

[@AyoHues]

Yeah, I think you’re right about the 14”. Between the lower power supply, smaller battery, tighter form factor, smaller fans etc, it’s hard to see how the M1Max would perform as fast in a direct comparison with the same chip in the 16”. But then, the fan less MBAir does an insane job of matching the M1 13” MBP so who knows? We’ll find out next week…

[@prabhuvadapalli9913]

The big compilation maybe alienware x17 because it's now very thin so maybe you compare it with 16inch Mac pro

[@jalalasif3898]

Finally, the one channel I was waiting for :) cheers Dave!

[@syeedmahmudnishat630]

Me also In tech review catagory, dave is the only person i believe.

[@jierenzheng7670]

I had the same guess regarding the power limits too! Let's see how it works out. I am curious about the thermals too.

[@mojtabamousavi6014]

You are surprisingly good at your job. Well done.

[@citruscorps]

The Y-Axis says 'Relative Performance'. According to the show, relative means Performance / Watt. As result you need to multiply with the watts used.

[@zj7396]

in their website notes, they also mentioned the performance metric is done according to industry convention

[@zj7396]

'Performance measured using selected industry‑standard benchmarks. '

[@citruscorps]

It's right there in Dave's video at 3:34.

[@GeckoClever]

@@zj7396 "industry‑standard benchmarks" is an incredibly vague statement that goes from testing upload time to whatever bullshit they made. There is no definition of "industry-standard benchmarks", its extremely vague.

[@gundamovsscalemodel8941]

These new models are quite exciting. Makes me want to purchase a MacBook again. I wonder if the new gpu power can transfer over to parallels to run PC games in a virtual machine smoothly. Fingers crossed.

[@TheVikingquest]

Yes. I also dream of buying a 3k laptop to game on it… virtually… maybe consider one if u want to develop games on it…

[@alii2284]

windows community got destroyed tbw

[@billB101]

@@alii2284 for laptops I'd agree, for desktop and graphics, absolutely not.

[@s.bamahfoodh]

@@billB101 absolutely not YET.. there is a mac pro on the way

[@alii2284]

@@billB101 yea but we are still talking about portable laptops. there's still an iMac and Mac pro on the way!!

[@huntermeyer4972]

I'm excited to see you're take on the pricing as well

[@robings6489]

A little note on the notch: In a recent Monterey update they added the option to display the Status in fullscreen mode. So the statusbar is there without loosing any screen real estate.

[@shivasiddharth9809]

This is like desktop level performance in a laptop form factor. I pushed back my upgrading plans once I saw the leaks. Glad that they have got the ports back. This is going to tick a lot of boxes for many out there.

[@thibaldus3]

Give it back some upgradability and I wouldn't hesitate.

[@MrEnoch-dy4tg]

Desktop performance expect you can’t do anything on it because it’s not a laptop xd Great device for browsing internet,good job apple

[@Chopper153]

@@MrEnoch-dy4tg your post literally makes no sense

[@irfanm5892]

My wallet said no

[@MrEnoch-dy4tg]

@@Chopper153 let’s put this like that - Mac is expensive imitation of a computer. Expensive toy for browsing internet and do some uni work or edit a video.

[@michaeln1712]

You know you love tech .. when you always love Dave's review lol

[@SonyDjuana]

Always tune in to Dave for the laptop review, no one else does better

[@automat8]

Always sober Dave.Thanks!

[@tringuyen7519]

I can’t wait until October 26 when reviewers get the M1 pro and M1 max MacBook Pros. Dave can then verify all of Apple’s charts!

[@RuiPedroLeal]

And also a big congrats to Dave, which was one of the only reviewers to address this notch insanity in a clear way. Most of the other reviews just either ignore it or spew Apple bull**** … thanks for that👌

[@vit.khudenko]

Thank you for the review! Please do a single core performance comparison. As many compare multi-core performance only, but this is not what defines laptop performance for my use cases.

[@paul28177]

considering it will continue to run at full power on battery, then the changer wattage has nothing to do with power to run the machine - it will be more to do with charging the batteries as for the notch...in some apps you have a lot more options that go along the menu bar... already using chrome it and words etc the buttons are very close to where the notch will be