Legion Go S - This Is BUILT For Steam!

[@Dave2D]

steamOS is king

[@t.7527]

Nah man Windows 12 will be.

[@allanz977]

SteamOS compatibility is still a big issue for me. You have to run through so many hoops to get some games working.

[@Rau-Le-Creuset]

Linux Gaming UP

[@TheCristo1996]

Can't Wait For the future "Steam Console" or "Steam OS" which one will come first will change the gaming standard

[@pejiSLB]

Christ is King

[@2failepic]

Crazy how many Dave2D videos we will be getting the next few days.

[@markaznar1979]

Now we’re taking! SteamOS variant = day 1 purchase

[@Unicornpirate]

Ltt, Gamers Nexus, Hardware Unboxed, Hardware Canucks, HDTVtest... we're getting good stuff in the next few days for sure

[@McMaxW]

Its called ads

[@EmuQuest]

W pfp

[@Quizack]

@@McMaxWDave is a liar. He’s probably not even 2D I bet.

[@DynamicPhil84]

This is a landmark moment for the world of gaming! Once SteamOS starts landing on more powerful handhelds and devices with bigger batteries, we are really in for the holy grail of gaming the likes we haven't seen since the 90s and early 2000s!

[@sophieedel6324]

Yeah, being locked into Steam's monopoly where the OS dictates which store you can use is so great /s. Getting Epic, GOG, Blizzard, Ubisoft, EA or anything else working on SteamOS is either a massive pita, or plain impossible. A locked down babysitting OS like SteamOS might work for illiterate computer users, most people want to use an OS that can actually do other stuff than gaming.

[@Broodjemetbeleg]

@@sophieedel6324 lol its not, heroic launcher works perfectly. you sound like a noob lol. might want to google some tutorials because even my little sister managed to install it herself

[@sophieedel6324]

@@Broodjemetbeleg SteamOS is the biggest "noob OS" out there, if you are that bent on using an alternative to Windows, and all you realy care about is gaming (what are you even doing on a PC if all you do is game, but whatever), at least use a Linux distro that doesn't lock you down like you're a 5-year-old. SteamOS is a locked down OS just like ChromeOS, with just one goal, locking people into Steam.

[@vvvvvvvvvwv]

@@sophieedel6324You want to do other stuff than gaming on your purpose built gaming console?

[@sophieedel6324]

@@vvvvvvvvvwv Valve has tried to lock down the PC gaming space with Steam Machines before. Billionaire Gabe Newell went on a tirade against Windows back then, we know Valve's goals, locking PC users into SteamOS with their store, this is not limited to handhelds. And yes, most PC users want the freedom to use any store and program they want, most PC users do not want a walled garden like ChromeOS or SteamOS.

[@GingerBradMan21]

Missed opportunity for lenovo to put the red nipple from the think pad as the track pad.

[@tabahghifary8744]

I'd love to have that since I use Thinkpad X1 Carbon as my daily driver. But Lenovo's THINK product line was never meant for gamers anyway.

[@VastoRogis]

yes yes yes yes trackpoint from thinkpads

[@gmoddude12]

fuck yes XD i dont care if i would actually use it its so iconic they should have done it to really show its a lenovo device

[@vncube1]

Wait what the heck, that would be perfect for a handheld!!

[@_purge9488]

Anytime I see that it just screams “cheap highschool e-waste”

[@SuperFME87]

After dual booting Bazzite on my Ally for a few months, I completely nuked Windows and reinstalled Bazzite on the entire volume. SteamOS/Bazzite really is that much better. The fact I can properly suspend the device, even while playing a game, made it a game changer for me. Not to mention my kids can easily pick it up and start playing. 10/10, would ditch Windows again.

[@fightnight14]

After using my Ally X with Windows only I'm ready to ditch it as soon as the official SteamOS comes out for it. It's irritating when games don't launch properly and have to do some gymnastics to have it work.

[@joncruz]

Just hope they fix the Anti-Cheat issue.

[@bonepileofficial]

Bazite is pure awesome on rog ally

[@hornantuutti5157]

Antichest is only issue because devs wont do anything about it. Valve has done most of the work for them but some still refuse to use recourses to ad linux support. I gues it is because linux still has pretty low market share.. I still have high hopes that this will change in the coming few years. And most important thing is that anticheat issues only affect feww games out there. Almost every game works just fine. i see simulator / sim controller issues as a issue tho. Then again sims are niche.

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

Why tf would you get something called a handheld pc If you wanted a console experience? I will never understand

[@Liatin1]

meanwhile, microsoft just sitting there going “this is fine”

[@kalpamonx]

an xbox handheld that can play the library (and maybe even widows games if they really want to be nice) would be such a market stealer

[@ShaneTN]

They never had a home on a handheld gaming device anyway, and Linux is still very far away from actually being comparable on pc so what are they worried about exactly?

[@Fran-kc2gu]

tbf windows it's a huge mess since has been around for a lot of years and it would be complicated to make some breaking changes

[@aquariuskudo]

Not really. Port Xbox UI to a handheld and let it run steam. Simple.​@@Fran-kc2gu

[@derekfurst6233]

@@ShaneTN How do you mean far away from being comparable on pc. Features? Or market share

[@Aldrnari956]

Starts at $500? Sold. That’s much more competitive than Acer’s announcement

[@EmuQuest]

Its the SteamOS version coming in may, the windows one ($739)will come in jan

[@duuke4618]

Battery is too small, not worth it

[@Aldrnari956]

@ the Steam Deck OLED has a 50WH battery. The Legion Go S has a 55.5WH battery. I get that bigger devices have 70-80WH, but for the size it should work.

[@shahtayyib]

​@@Aldrnari956Not just the size but the OS!

[@danr8267]

Sure but this legion go has 120hz 1200p display which will suck juice regardless compared to the steam deck ​@@Aldrnari956

[@dashonly]

A less than 10 min vid. Covering everything i need to know with research to back it up. KZbinr like Dave2d is a dying breed

[@Deep_Side_Sleep]

Yeh cause it's his side gig

[@dashonly]

@ i know, still kudos to him for not being a sellout

[@syedfaizan92]

@@Deep_Side_Sleep whats his main gig?

[@Deep_Side_Sleep]

@syedfaizan92 he works in Corporate/has a day job

[@themac1400]

Wow 499 yeah what was MSI thinking with 899 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

Well, they forgot to mention that, the $499 handheld will get the older Z1 chip instead if Z2, it will only have 16GB RAM instead of 32GB RAM etc.. so of course it's cheaper if it's also lower speced and use 2 years ago parts instead of newer/more powerfull and expensive parts.. but keep in mind, the already 2 years old chip will also be weak 2 years sooner to get the newer updates or run the newest games.. so you need to consider is that wort it, if you can't get anything just after 2 years, or you can use it freely for about 4 years (so that 2 years longer because of the newer/stronger CPU/GPU and because of the doubled amount of RAM..)

[@EeveeEuphoria]

the trackpad, even though it's... incredibly small, is still no doubt gonna be useful i'm just glad we're finally getting more steamOS devices. in my opinion it's trivial to install bazzite, but some people understandably don't wanna fuss with all that, and just want an out-of-the-box experience. i'm really hoping this catches on and more companies start shipping steamOS

[@Penofhell]

Come on. It's useless for anything else than moving the mouse on the desktop, which SteamOS is specifically designed for you not to ever need to do that (you can, but you don't need to). You're not going to game on that trackpad, which is the one application that makes the trackpads on the Deck useful despite being barely big enough (it's much better on the Steam Controller).

[@okashiromi5541]

‏‪5:08‬‏ while valve is very likely subsiding this, there is a very good chance it's not as big a cut as you'd think. A windows 11 copy from MCRSFT is 199 for personal use. Let's say that the bulk/indestry discount for lenovo is 50%, that's still a 100 bucks mark up that trickles down to the consumer. Meanwhile I can get steamos online and slap it on whatever device I want (whatever it'll support it well is a different question lol) so this might just be lenovo pricing their stuff fairly.

[@sergeykish]

Microsoft got percents from each sale on Windows Store. Windows version costs $100 more and includes bigger NVMe. So its price is beyond $100.

[@okashiromi5541]

@@sergeykish ain't surprised. The numbers I gave were just quick and dirty stuff I found online to show the point. The actual price for WIN11 Per console is likely north of a 100.

[@livesportster]

​​@@okashiromi5541 100 more for windows and 500gb more storage, so windows licence for oem less than 50usd 130 usd more price just for 16gb more ram , for 32gb version

[@themalcore_]

4:41 You said it uses a short SSD, but it looks like that metal brace is intended to be removed for longer SSDs, is it not?

[@dominikbessler2507]

I'm pretty sure it is one of those. I have seen the same brackets used in Lenovo laptops

[@ridge_r4cer]

Engadget says that it can also accommodate a full sized nvme also 👍🏾

[@seanweber4252]

Cheers Dave we all appreciate you man

[@jackjmaheriii]

If you would have asked me 10 years ago, that the “real steam machine” was going to be a handheld, I would’ve laughed in your face.

[@Duskull666]

This is the best looking handheld pc in my opinion, i only wish the white one would come with SteamOS and for it to be with more premium components..

[@ianism3]

yeah I came here to complain about that. we need more white devices ahha

[@boney-jonie]

@@ianism3 white is arguably the most popular color for handheld pcs

[@Kiaulen]

I do have to wonder: is the hardware going to be different between the two? Seems like you'd be able to install steamOS on the white one unless Lenovo is stupid and locks it down.

[@inigosusaetaherrera4230]

@@Kiaulen yes, different hardware, old hardware on the cheaper device, still good for the price tho.

[@Adios1012]

@@inigosusaetaherrera4230can we install steam os in windows version ?

[@SkylerFuhrman]

Amazing transitions, so clean and smooth. I love when your videos come up on my feed for things I’m interested in.

[@Evteboda]

no need to rush, better to wait for production model with the OS.

[@nugzmedallion8929]

Holy shit $499 is actually an OUTRAGEOUSLY good price for this device... but then all my dreams got destroyed when you said how bad the d-pad was, which was the primary reason I didn't like the Steam Deck and ROG Ally, both of which I've owned and since sold. I've been WAITING for a device with a good d-pad (like the one on the GPD Win 4,) hall effect sticks, competent hardware (I'm very excited for upcoming testing for the Z2 Extreme and whatever terribly-named replacement for the 8840U will be,) and ideally a keyboard but if it's coming loaded with SteamOS then that's not as necessary to me. I personally don't mind using Windows on handhelds either. Also ideally would be if it's a device I don't have to go on IndieGogo to buy which will also come without a warranty lol

[@AiraBai]

And why can't have we c and z buttons?

[@NightElveee]

still a factory version though, maybe it'll be fixed..

[@nugzmedallion8929]

@@NightElveee Thats highly unlikely. Yeah, this may be a pre-production unit, but I have a hard time believing that they haven't entered the production phase already, and usually (not always tbf) things like the physical inputs don't typically change too drastically between these review models and the end user product. I could very well be wrong, and I'd be happy to be, but I'm just going off of what I've seen in the past.

[@dzibanart8521]

There is the Zotac Zone it has a pretty good dpad.. but I think it costs more.

[@LidenAdam]

What is wrong with d-pad on steam deck? I have no issue with it!

[@cameronbosch1213]

Now if they'd release it before May with Steam OS and add bigger touchpads...

[@edwindungdung1998]

Insert wait who are you meme

[@ja195]

You still wasn't gonna buy it

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@ja195 I might have.

[@Bebou.1]

@@ja195i love you ja

[@HiTechLoLife]

I will say, Bazzite is ALWAYS an option for these PC handhelds and outside of official SteamOS support, it's probably the next best thing.

[@emlyndewar]

I've found it to be a bit of a hassle in my location, unable to update/install some things. I could just find a decent Linux VPN, but really can't be bothered with that on my handheld. Hoping to see Lenovo get an "official" image out for the previous Legion Go.

[@Quizack]

I’m super happy that it’s priced competitively, has great specs, and comes with Steam OS. But I’m even more happy that Bazzite gives us another option. We really are in the renaissance of handheld gaming devices.

[@r1fle101]

@@emlyndewar bet linux vpn is proton in my opinion

[@Bebou.1]

Bazzite is based on SteamOS ?

[@r1fle101]

@@Bebou.1 no its like steamos but it isn't. bazzite is fedora based and steamos is arch based

[@Fazeshyft]

I'm eager to see how SteamOS matures. I have an original Legion Go and I'm curious to see how the firmware changes. If I can migrate over to SteamOS, I'll seriously consider it. GOG MUST release a Linux native version of their service with Proton capability. It's a big ask, but it would keep them seriously competitive.

[@H8RMAKR_]

As a Legion Go owner, this is interesting to me. I might even pick one up to test drive side by side. The Legion Go is an incredible machine and with all the updates Lenovo has made to it with the feedback they got I really want to support their efforts in this market

[@989howard]

maybe steam is doing this because steam not sold in every country because steam dont have distribution channel for example in india its not available and rog ally sold 80000 units in india people want to buy steam deck in india but cant buy directly so this is a solution

[@toxicturkeyy]

It's moreso because valve is fundamentally a software company. The more devices come with Steam installed the more money goes to Valve.

[@allenqueen]

MX2games and local stores in metros have Steam Deck

[@Bebou.1]

Im from france i bought the steam deck directly from steam web site

[@6igPP]

0:11 oh boy that handheld looks beautiful 😭🔥

[@akapeegly6463]

i need a black one thoooo😭

[@6igPP]

@ me too cos I be eating a lot while gaming 😭

[@allanz977]

First gen Legion Go user here. Waiting for the supposed legion go 2 with Z2 extreme chip to be announced this year. Hopefully they'll put larger battery inside. 8 inch option would be interesting too. Current 8.8 inch I find it a bit too big.

[@DS-pk4eh]

Its coming for sure. For me trouble is, I got mine Legion Go just several months ago, so not even played so much with it. Though I did the upgrade to M2.2280 2Tb SSD

[@allanz977]

@@DS-pk4eh tbh, I doubt the performance gain would be big enough for a upgrade yet. Though if it's at least 30% gain and battery life is improved to Ally X level then I think I'll have to upgrade 😁

[@DS-pk4eh]

@@allanz977 Yeah, battery is the biggest let down. But that means I would need to sell the one I have and then buy new one losing probably 2-400 bucks in the process (since I got mine for 500, and can sell for 350 maybe)

[@jesusbarrera6916]

​@@allanz977you are going to be disappointed

[@maak4733]

Love how you uploaded a couple of videos together back to back

[@rometherevenant8749]

Reminds me a bit of the Logitech G Cloud. I mean it looks fine, but one thing that made the Legion Go special was the Switch like detachable controls. I'll just get the successor of that with hopefully improved controls and ergonomics.

[@flirtypie]

I think think Lenovo try’s to compete with availability. They get their stuff in the stores all around the globe the competition meanwhile is often sold out or not available at all. I also think they can build a whole ecosystem around their products and refresh the products more often.

[@DS-pk4eh]

Their high end model will have that kind of design I think. I have Legion Go, and I only once tried it with detachable mode. So, not sure how important it is. WHat i wold like to see is maybe SteamOS comes to Legion Go 1, it would be great.

[@PhilfreezeCH]

@@DS-pk4ehI use my Switch in the train and almost always just put the display in front of me and remove the controllers because its just way more comfortable.

[@corombb]

@@DS-pk4eh I doubt they'll "backport" an OS like that, but Bazzite officially supports the LeGo1 and works great

[@ianism3]

yeah the proper Legion Go Gen 2 (or whatever they ultimately call it) will have detatchable controls and an 8.8-inch screen like the original. a prototype was shown off at CES this week, but there are no release details yet and nobody actually got their hands on it

[@Nooptema]

I have both an og Steam Deck and a Legion Go. Love both of the devices. Now I can support both companies again when the SteamOS version of the Legion Go S comes out.

[@BenyaminLorit]

5:35 - Oh, Steam Machines are definitely going to make a comeback down the line. In fact, the LTT video from a couple of days ago (the one where they loaded SteamOS on a desktop and it ran pretty much without a hitch) is the perfect preview for what that experience might look like. I'd love to see you do a video of you making a personal project akin to that, as a matter of fact.

[@heatguy100]

Let’s go! I was waiting for something like this to jump into the steam handheld..I was about to bite the bullet for a steam deck but so glad I saw this video!! Hype!

[@arthuraguiar5382]

3:20 that's what she said...

[@thefilthiness]

5:40 "Steam Cube"... This sounds like a throw back to Valve's "Steam Machines", which never really took off from what I remember. But today's landscape is very different!

[@TheGreyOx]

I am most eager for the Go 2, hopefully they give us a release date soon.

[@Anchor_Makes]

Hey Dave! @4:44 when you have the back cover off, it looks to me like the m.2 is mounted in a slot that can fit a 2280, and they used a spacer for the 2230 (or 2242?) that they're shipping it with. Can you take a closer look? If so you could fit an 8TB SSD in this, plus a 2TB microSD for a total of 10TB of onboard storage. FINALLY a game system that can hold a substantial portion of my game library. $600 for an 8TB SSD + $500 for the legion go s (SteamOS version) = $1100 (+tax), and you'll have a spare SSD you could sell. Not even that insane to consider.

[@vikramdesh1]

5:32 Did the homeboy forget about Steam Machines?

[@skit2012]

Steam machines are turning 10 years old this year, crazy. didn't work out so well back then but I hope they reuse the name if they do happen again.

[@Jet-Jots]

Love the daily 2D. Any idea how its performance compares to the Ally X? Hope to get more in depth review and comparisons from you!

[@K3nnyBTV]

04:12 - **sigh** I should call her.

[@bomzky8406]

😂😂😂

[@somerandomguy001]

Lmao

[@godspeedsr1471]

you feel more real out of all the tech-tubers I watch, which is why I still get excited like a new subscriber ... keep it real ...

[@kishantakoordyal]

wow, everyone is uploading at once

[@VioletViolent]

Bro just discovered the concept of review embargo

[@Lead_Foot]

It's almost as if there's some kind of consumer electronics show going on right now and creators want views.

[@mehmetalieser3789]

They time it so they can release the video as soon as they are allowed

[@atiq8987]

Wow​@@VioletViolent

[@cornerfiller]

yeah, paid

[@grasshopper92308]

I have been doing a lot of researches on a handheld and I think I'm waiting for this one to come out in the steamos version at that price point I don't think it can be beat

[@chavsny1578]

Ohhh I'm so in for the Steam version!

[@armandovalmont9762]

Dave is the kind of guy who somehow defies time and keeps looking better every year. Like Whisky

[@SurealG]

Microsoft really should hurry up and make a good os for the handheld cause bazzite and steam OS are so much better on a handheld

[@vsz-z2428]

no they shouldn’t tf we don’t want copilot and ads in the interface …… OEMS need to pre-install bazzite/steamOS or do a custom OS if anything

[@Vegan_Lifting]

Windows wth Xbox Game Pass and Xbox Play Anywhere is perfect.

[@pixels_per_minute]

According to Valve, through an announcement on the Steam client, they'll be releasing a more generalised version of SteamOS to the public shortly before the Steam version of the Legion Go S is released. They pointed more to it being used for other handhelds, but in a PC World interview, Pierre-Loup stated that all the work they've been doing on the back end is to make it easier for people to just install it on a desktop and have it work out of the box. They even discussed the possibility of it being pre-installed on gaming laptops and a shared interest between the interviewer and Pierre-Loup for a Steam set top box.

[@mick6384]

Being thicker might be more comfortable for those with bigger hands, the Steam Deck hurts my wrists after awhile and the Switch even with the HORI joycons is even worse

[@derekfurst6233]

The steam deck hurts your hands? Damn

[@mick6384]

@@derekfurst6233unfortunately, returned both the Deck and the Switch cause there’s no point in playing if I’m going to get carpal tunnel lol Stuck with PC until a good handset (or case accessory) is made Usually the issue are the fingers not in use circled around the back, normally start to lose feeling in my pinky on both the Deck and on Switch I can feel the wrist joint pain along with the pins and needles in my pinky

[@classyorb]

You're on fire man. Keep the videos coming

[@M.S.GundamMeister-h6d]

As a Mac user, this is what I need when I want to game.

[@alphacompton]

Looks great. I'm happy it's much more well received than the original Legion Go. I'm excited for Steam OS but as someone who owned a Steam Deck for a while and also used Bazzite comfortably on my Aya Neo 2, I doubt I'd main a SteamOS only handheld for now but I'm curious enough to give it a try again on more supported hardware. Personally it was the lack of Manufacturer tools/software that made me reinstall Windows over Bazzite but if they can put that in there for SteamOS, that might be a game changer.

[@bnbronstein]

This is a really interesting development. Am I the only one waiting for the return of steam machines? My steam deck 99% exists plugged into my TV via dock, I'd love something a little more powerful for playing on my 4k tv.

[@SyRose901]

I'm thinking: How about just planting a PC and connecting it to a TV? I tried this with my old 2015 laptop, since I'm too poor to really have anything else. Fedora Linux. Pressing the PlayStation button(DualShock 3) opens Steam, and pressing it again while Steam is open enters Big Picture Mode. From there, it's basically SteamOS. Plays my games just fine on TV with a controller. Even completed most of Celeste with it. Controller settings, Steam Input, it even can suspend my laptop from Big Picture, hot damn! My friend had a PC that's small enough to be convenient for this purpose. I don't remember the case, though it had an R5 3600, and a 6500 XT, and that played Elden Ring just fine. I imagine a small-form-factor PC like that would be your ideal Steam Machine.

[@hornantuutti5157]

4k would cost alot. 1080p would be cheap to make tho.

[@bnbronstein]

@@SyRose901 exactly right, something smaller form factor that fits into a tv cabinet, steamOS no windows, no concern over battery is the dream

[@bobbyn946]

i just cant understand it, if the argument is performance, i would get it, but why dont you just install steam on the win handheld? i mean why would anyone want the os where less games run? how is win hard to use? the legion go has its software on autostart and theres a button on the device to open it and steam is automatically in autostart all you need is to press that icon lol

[@Hubwood]

I'd prefer a windows decive over STEAM OS anytime. I just want full flexibility and also be able to use it as a full fleged PC when needed 🤷‍♂ That's what actually got me hyped about Ally, Legion GO & the likes... I get that people would prefer STEAM OS though... So it's good that customers can now choose...

[@CRan-ei6co]

But can't you use the full desktop mode on the steamos when needed if you want the PC experience and flexibility (I'm not entirely sure what you're referring too about this tho) but I can understand if Linux may not be for you

[@Hubwood]

@@CRan-ei6co I meant I prefer windows to be more flexible in general. I also use game pass, GoG, epic and battle net a lot. And I want to use it for windows stuff as well...

[@guser7137]

The thing that kills Windows on handhelds is how MS basically broke sleep functionality. Windows is otherwise fine with a front-end like Playnite.

[@Yagami2027]

Microsoft and Windows on a handheld is a huge no go for me. Also the fact that the Linux Desktop environment does 90% of all the things I could ask for is what sets the deal for me. SteamOS for the win!!!

[@ceremus]

Bazzite has instructions for installing dual boot between their native Linux distro and a Windows partition so you can enjoy all the benefit of SteamOS's streamlined interface and also boot into Windows if you really need it for something that's not available in Linux. Although for most people who have configured their devices this way, they use the Bazzite partition >90% of the time.

[@asherplease1957]

Valve has been trying to see this dream come true for so long they really decided to do it themselves, *JUST* to show the rest of the industry how it's done. I was an owner of the alienware steam machine and had a ton of fun with steam in big picture back in the day. I have the Asus ROG Ally right now and am super excited to see new hardware dropping. All the games I love to play are available on the Ally and all the games marked as "Great on Deck" in the Steam store are even cleaner on the Ally (compared my performance to steam deck game benchmarks).

[@ElisLawel]

Dave.... You know you can install bazzite os on any handheld, right?

[@Kiaulen]

Yeah, but there's a huge difference between a community project and Valve themselves supporting it. I'm not running bazzite or Nobara or similar on my desktop specifically because I don't trust them to be well supported. I will happily put steamOS on it once that comes out for general use.

[@pixels_per_minute]

Having a trusted, capable, and well funded company behind something as integral as an operating system is something a lot of people value.

[@danielhulan3058]

Is it going to outperform the og legion go? I haven't looked at the specs yet.

[@marcelosoares7148]

No, this one is made to be cheap as possible. You want the Legion Go 2 for a superior device.

[@jesusbarrera6916]

10% weaker than OG go

[@bengovrik]

Hardly any improvement over steam deck oled performance, and steam deck is OLED..... I just don't see the purpose unless it came with the Z2 extreme chip. Kinda pointless.

[@jesusbarrera6916]

This is more poeerful than ths deck, Legion go 2 has oled

[@MacClaus13]

It’s Z2 Go I don’t see any reason to Get this over SD

[@CFWhitman]

The pointing device is technically not a trackpad, but an optical pointing device (sometimes referred to as an optical mouse). It works on a different principle. It looked in one picture that I saw like the Steam OS version of the device might have a trackpad instead of the optical pointer (that is, it appeared to have a bigger square). Edit: I thought about this, and I think it is likely that the picture I saw actually showed only the white Windows model of the S and showed a black/charcoal non-S in the same picture rather than a Steam powered S.

[@jwash87]

No oled? Not interested

[@DrakonR]

Good, no babysitting the screen.

[@jwash87]

@DrakonR do you babysit your cellphone?

[@DrakonR]

@@jwash87 I did until one day it stayed on overnight and now it has horrible burn in. People are so stubborn until it happens to them. You know what doesn't require babysitting and still looks great today? All the retro handheld consoles that don't use OLED.

[@jwash87]

@@DrakonR burn in rarely happens now days

[@DrakonR]

@@jwash87 that is 100% untrue. Any more claims to make?

[@Quizack]

Finally yes! I’ve been so excited to see more Steam OS devices, and this is right up my alley! You’ve pretty much sold it to me Dave. If this can match, or even come close to the efficiency of the Steam Deck, then I’m buying it 100%. It’s great that it should outperform the Steam Deck as you said, but if it does it at 80w (hyperbole) then that’s not impressive to me. Can you give us a rough estimate of what you expect in terms of efficiency, from your educated opinion? Please.

[@SinaMorovati]

The price seems very bad if you think for 50 more you can get Ally X, no? This doesn't have a "new" CPU. Z2Go is just zen3 with rdna2. Z2 is just Z1 extreme and z2 extreme is a new cpu.

[@EmuQuest]

What?? AllyX is NOT $550

[@Maltder]

Yeah, Ally X is nearly double the price ​@@EmuQuest

[@thomasK411]

So can you use game pass on the legion go s like the regular version ?

[@MyReviews_karkan]

I can't believe they still have the joystick under the buttons. Why? It's the most awkward and most uncomfortable position for your fingers. It's physically painful. Valve basically has the best device on the market no matter how "old" it is.

[@oo--7714]

Nah I prefer it like this

[@MrSeanroberts1969]

It’s so they can have a bigger screen and not have it too wide. The steam deck got it right first time as it was developed by gamers.

[@MyReviews_karkan]

@@oo--7714 I hate it with a passion. I have the onexplayer and I hardly ever use it because of this awkward layout. I always use the deck even though onexplayerone has double the resolution and looks gorgeous

[@MyReviews_karkan]

@@MrSeanroberts1969 I don't really care how small the device is, this layout needs to go

[@F1ugPlatzz]

I'd definitely miss the full dual trackpads. I use them all the time for mouse control. They work really well too for additional functionality when gaming. Steam Deck 2 is the only one I'm waiting for at this point.

[@heroninja1125]

Yea the trackpads are amazing especially in games like dota 2, where you need a lot of buttons mapped to a touch surface to make up for the smaller number of buttons on a handheld.

[@fightnight14]

RIP Steam Deck. Most PC handhelds will get SteamOS now and no more reason to get Steam's underpowered handheld.

[@SyRose901]

Oh, it's not like SteamOS is the Steam Deck's selling point, it's all about the near-perfect ergonomics and control scheme.

[@omegadomega]

​@@SyRose901This. Steam Deck controls are perfect. Tried an ROG Ally and Legion Go in a store and both felt terrible.

[@hornantuutti5157]

Sure sure. Meanwhile deck still gets the job done. Only an idiot would buy new handheld atm if he has deck. Nothing offers enough bumb in performanse so better simply wait. im not saying i could not buy aything but deck2 but so far no one has offered anything that beats how deck fits in my hands. It is hood start they make steam os products but they need to fix the controlls.

[@MacClaus13]

@omegadomega 100% Agree with you so far nothing impressive. The whole point of this is to simply Enjoy your games and SD is the best for it

[@SneakyCaleb]

Between this and the Rog ally X aren’t they the same performance wise? The price is cheaper here with a bigger screen…

[@gcforreal]

I don't get how everyone acts like they don't know how to use windows when we all grew up with it . Use big picture mode its the dame interface..yes the suspect resume is better on steam but windows can be PROPERLY setup up to be a console experience. Also if youre like me you have pc game pass which you cannot install native game pass games in steam . Windows isn't the prettiest for a handheld but i think the issue is way way overblown

[@video0dotmov]

SteamOS won't bother you about setting up OneDrive out of nowhere by default. SteamOS won't try to get you to use Copilot by default. The experience is tuned to be perfect for the product's intended use case by default. It doesn't matter if a console-like experience is just a few settings or commands away in Windows, the consumer wants their device to just work. If you need an example of this to understand - would you use Linux on your desktop if I told you that a Windows-like experience is just a few clicks and commands away, or would you rather get a Windows-like experience by just using Windows?

[@3Konaa]

I would love if more of these handheld consoles took the steamdeck layout with the sticks on top, and stretched out the body to have the d-pad and face buttons beside the sticks.

[@HarshitAneja]

Not a gamer but it's just so astonishing to me to hear someone talk about preferring gaming on linux than windows! I didn't expect this day to come so soon.

[@simplylmao]

A confusion regarding steam os, does it support epic games library and ubisoft one?

[@stevenchilders4481]

will the steam version be available for purchase through steam?

[@sirzulfadhli]

So can we just get the steamos version and do dualboot windows?

[@ChristianCabrera-yx1kr]

I have so many questions. But if you got Lenovo legion go s Steam Would it be easier to do boot?

[@deevad8119]

I don't know much about SteamOS. Is there a way to play games on other launchers ? (I have Blizzard and GOG in mind)

[@MCVAMP666]

oled screen??? and what's the price tag for 32gb ram and 2tb???

[@tpf92]

How sure are we that it's 100% using the same APU? I bring this up because of the recent announcement of the Z2 Go with just 4 CPU cores and a lot less cache.

[@greenmushroom4258]

What handheld can run space marine 2 like a boss?

[@adamheath2533]

I pre-ordered the white Windows version. I like the white color better on this and I don’t want to wait until May for the Steam OS version release to get it. I’m going to put Bazzite on it right away though lol. Maybe try out the official Steam OS release on it in May.

[@XBX4LFE]

5:35 it already did happen in 2015 with steam machines and the steam controller. Why it failed? Steam OS wasn't ment for everyday use and steam link was competing with itself. Now with the small form factors, tech and now a working steam os. I am sure steam will have a much better chance at entering the living room.

[@smashpro1]

And the fact that Linux gaming was nowhere near as good as it is now. Proton wasn't A Thing, so you were stuck with the handful of native ports, or manually configuring Wine.

[@DoubleAgent25]

6:00 This point right here is why I’ve been primarily a PC gamer for half of my life: no obsolescence. While I used to love romanticizing console generations, it just doesn’t make sense to me anymore.

[@RenzoMorini_857]

where can i get that wallpaper dave?

[@Kevin-jp4rb]

No capacitive touch on the joystick and gyro?

[@regis_red]

When does it come out?

[@Vastad]

The idea of a "Steam Cube" that is basically following the Mac Mini form factor sounds like a sure thing. The main downside that I can foresee is if it is exclusively Steam OS, then I lose access to mods unless the game happens to support Workshop or has a built-in mod experience like Baldur's Gate 3.

[@alexrushes]

Dave, you just pitched Steamboxes at the end aha. Funny how this comes back around.

[@Gamingxoxo-mv5pi]

Are they Thunderbolt or usb 4 ports?

[@Linden_Johnson]

Im thinking about getting a handheld.. and steamdeck is top of my list, but hearing this, I may go Lenovo eventually.

[@mortimizer232]

Do you guys think it would be feasible to buy the SteamOS version and install windows on it to save the extra 240$?

[@matthewwilson3673]

Video quality and color grading, great quality video

[@Albertmars32]

Hows the input lag in games running on SteamOS compared to windows

[@DanBottiglieri]

I'm pretty disappointed that they didn't retain the clip out controllers with the mouse functionality, as that was the most appealing facet of the original Legion Go. Still, I'm glad this thing exists looking forward to more SteamOS devices as I love the UI. What I would like to see is a smaller SteamOS device (doesn't even have to be particularly powerful), something I can pop in my bag and have available for indie games, similar form factor to the Switch Lite. Not sure if I'm asking too much for a pocketable PC. The GPD Win Mini has my eye, if it ran SteamOS. I actually find myself gaming on Steam Indie games lately mainly on my 14 inch 3 year old Chromebook, it's just such a shame bluetooth controllers don't work for Linux containers.

[@icerew]

My only problem with steamOS is that you cant run AntiCheat games eg: fifa COD etc. could we see this OS taking on native support for these games?

[@gjalc-63]

Quick question, what are the advantages of SteamOs vs running Steam Big Picture mode on windows handhelds?

[@robertomarks72]

only the standby a big negativ is anticheat for linux .... fortnite gta battlefield games fc25 and many others dont work .....

[@JanstonCordell]

Windows takes up more system resources than SteamOS

[@Kinos141]

Cool. I might check it out in May. That's around my birthday.

[@pantsgaming759]

the right hand touch pad is so important because its good for first person shooters, takes abit to get use to but its almost as good as a mouse once you get use to it. i hope the steam deck 2 has it.

[@snipeyboi186]

could I ask where to get that wallpaper?

[@Nor-tc8vz]

So is this Lenovo's equivalent to the Switch Lite, with the standard Go being the equivalent to the standard Switch?

[@TheSaadoun13]

What is the best handheld for fighting games? it's really important to me !

[@st.altair4936]

Hope SteamOS being more popular forces game companies to support Linux. The few games that don't run these days are multiplayer ones with anticheat that flag and ban Linux devices.

[@unkletiny]

"There's going to be desktop Steam consoles" Foreshadowing to Steam Machines 2.0

[@creiGnn]

Lenovo allowing you to show benchmark numbers on a pre-production sample bodes well for the device I'd say. Looking forward to the SteamOS version.

[@robertosutrisno8604]

They ditched the removable controller?