Improving Model Railway Rolling Stock 2019 | Dean Park 217

[@trainmanbob]

Just what I needed Dave!!!! I bought, some years back, an expensive compressor and spray gun and I am about to set up a spray booth to do a vast amount of stock work. I could not have asked for a better explanatory video, and my low confidence level has risen dramatically, and just at the right time too. What I particularly like about your "tutorial" videos is that they are presented in such a simple manner that all is thoroughly explained and presented in a friendly as opposed to dictatorial way. Thanks Dave. Very much appreciated. Cheers, Bob

[@DeanPark]

trainmanbob cheers bob. I was a bit nervous about doing this to rand new coaches, but I am so glad I did! :-) go for it! Cheers. Dave

[@trainmanbob]

@@DeanPark Will, do

[@roberttemple8462]

That's better! Great job Dave. As you said, it's great to be involved in a hobby where the objective is to improve by sharing knowledge and not trying to outdo each other. Regards Bobby 'T'.

[@DeanPark]

Robert Temple hi Bobby! I’m chuffed with my product, it makes such a massive difference. As for the sharing of info etc, that’s why I started my channel. To share and document my progress. Sadly there may be some who see this is a competition and thinks subs mean king!... how wrong they are. There are better modellers than I who have a fraction of the subs. Some may chase ‘fame’ at expense of their modelling skills. I do my thing and hope people enjoy it. Cheers. Dave

[@robmasterman]

Once again Dave, a Master Class in a re-painting project, the results were stunning. You've even built a booth for the spraying...amazing to watch as always...Many thanks...Bob

[@DeanPark]

Robert Masterman hi Bob, thanks. I am (unashamedly) proud of myself with what I achieved here. It was a lot of work, but boy, it’s been so rewarding. Cheers. Dave

[@EverardJunction]

Wow those decals came off easily, I've have some that can take 10 minutes or so. Good to see you getting into repaints too, you've made a massive improvement to the rake and they now look right instead of wrong. Spay booth is a worthwhile investment, looks the same as mine. Even has the sticker on the top that says 'enjoy the fresh air'. See you tomorrow, cheers.

[@DeanPark]

Yeah the finish I achieved on these is amazing. I have 7 swallow ones and 8 other scotrail ones to change now.... but maybe next year! Lol Enjoy the fresh air... lol, can’t say the same where I am just now. On a Virgin Pendilino bear a man who seems to think bathing is a past time for the minority!!! Lol. Oh bring back first class... all is forgiven :-)

[@eddiebcfc1140]

Hi Dave, just wanted to say it was a pleasure meeting you at the open day, I was the one who said I was interested in trains in Miami and it was fun talking to you (I will keep that raffle ticket trick in mind for later 😀) and I hope you enjoyed the competition. Eddie

[@DeanPark]

HO scale Miami Switching layout hi. It was really cool chatting with you and thanks for saying hello. Your Miami theme sound great. As I said, if you could do something a bit different to the usual layouts it will attract interest. By the way, We didn’t win the competition (the steam era one did!), but it turned out really cool in the end. Our layout did however raise the most for charity, at £55. It was bought by Andy York, of BRM magazine who’s going to use it in publications. Good luck with your modelling and I look forward to hearing from you again in the future. Cheers. Dave

[@eddiebcfc1140]

@@DeanPark thank you!

[@BritishRail60062]

Hi Dave. Another great review from you there buddy. I have a project going on at the moment as I am rewiring my Hornby Class 60 as the lights stopped working and after doing some checks with my Multimeter. I am suspecting that there is a broken wire because the cab unit lights work fine so that will save me the hassle of buying new ones. As for your Mk3's here and the other videos. Your modelling projects are inspirational and very useful. Not sure if I told you about this before but I add Kato drivers into my model trains that lack drivers which is most of the Hornby stuff and I am looking into replacing the plastic handrails on the Hornby Class 60 models I have with metal ones that I am going to make using 0.45mm brass wire because I am not happy with the "buckled" look that has occurred with some plastic handrails and they are a pain to fit back on when they come off. So I will use a pin vice and some araldite to hold the new ones in place. I avoid anything glue-wise from poundland because that UHU glue is just crap and the parts don't hold into place and it leaves a horrible grey fog on the surface. I like to share my experiences with other modellers to help them avoid making the same mistakes as I have done :). In September, I will be starting work on Bloomfield Lea Road that is a fictional TMD based from 2000 to present day using British and Irish model trains. In the real world, this would never be the case but in the world of model railways. I believe is "what you fancy - does you good" and if they ever build a rail link between Scotland and Northern Ireland. Perhaps Scotrail could use HST's from Edinburgh to Belfast and Belfast to Glasgow workings and maybe NI Railways could buy some HST's for those workings as well. Anyways, I have the plan of Bloomfield Lea Road on my channel's community page if you wanted to see the plan mate and the first video will up around August/September once I have the two baseboards. All the best Ash.

[@WaltononTrent]

Hi Dave. Literally just unmasked my first resprayed coach of what will be three named WCML InterCity Pullmans, and the transformation is really remarkable! I'm far from expert at this but the smooth shell of a Mk3 seems easy to mask properly, with almost no lumps, ridges, etc. I've even resprayed the upper dark grey. Chuffed with the result, and makes up for me cocking up an attempt at aluminium window frames earlier!! Just 33 more to do...! Cheers Rich

[@7APT7]

Hi Dave, Great blog, and always valuable information on how to take apart some of the more modern stock by new manufacturers, as the last thing you want is something to ping off unexpectedly, so a really worth while blog on How-To. Lovely coaches the Oxford Models to. No doubt this will be a second or even third viewing again at some point in the future. Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow in Oldbury Warley MRC. 👍Thumbs Up👍

[@DeanPark]

Jamie Smith hi, thanks. I’m blown away by the results :-) see you at the show. Cheers. Dave

[@7APT7]

Hi Dave, I was so pleased I got to speak to you and meet you in person, made my day with great banter between all, loved your bag pipes jingle to win hearts of the layout 😂 made us all laugh in the room. My Question regards the Spraying technique in this blog, i noticed while you were spraying you had a face mask on, but what are the reference numbers to cartridges that you used/whore in the face mask to prevent harmful paint vapours being breather in while you pray...? I have a Goggle and two cartridges (L/R) as a single mask set by 3M. Can I put any other type of cartridges in the mask other than 3M...? or do they have to be 3M as it’s a 3M mask, i’m also guessing 3M are the leaders in Protection over perhaps other cheaper brands. Hope you enjoyed you extra few days after the show.

[@TheDaf95xf]

Nice job Dave 47 😀 This is why Dean Park is so good to watch is it's attention to detail 👍🏻 Thanks Stevie 😎

[@DeanPark]

TheDaf95xf Hi thank you. Attention to detail is my thing lol. Cheers. Dave

[@kevvynolan8753]

Dave, your video has inspired me to do this. Oxfordrail executive light grey is so wrong! Your coaches are a massive improvement and make what is already a decent coach, a quality model. Now to make a start with my LSL push pull set...

[@Cheadleridgelanetmd]

Watching this has given me some confidence to find an old coach & give respraying a go cheers Dave

[@DeanPark]

Hi, thanks, go for it! If you need any advice get in touch. Cheers. Dave

[@mamodsteamreturns5492]

love it !! just like everard junction with his wagon projects step by step how to ..spot on !!

[@DeanPark]

mamodsteam returns hi. Thanks. :-) Dave

[@AndyHudson-ModelRailwayBuilds]

excellent tutorial, really helpful, need to do my own if I ever get round to it, thanks for the mention always happy to help Andy

[@GalgormHall]

There’s no doubt the time and effort involved has enhanced the look of the coaches no end, particularly when hooked up with the correctly finished DBSO. You’ll sleep easier in your bed now knowing that that little aspect has been put to rights. Paul

[@DeanPark]

Galgorm Hall hi definitely! I’m so pleased with the result. :-) Dave

[@JPoulAndersson]

Lovely work as always Dave Thanks!Joachim

[@DeanPark]

JPoulAndersson Hi, cheers. Dave.

[@craigymac5386]

Well done Dave, you've done an excellent job there.👍

[@DeanPark]

Craig MacFarlane hi Craig, thanks. I’m really proud of my efforts. Dave

[@philiplettley]

On my birthday in 1992, I had the ray off, and I went to the Carmichael bankruptcy auction. Their paint shop sold for £1,000 with everything included, lights, spray guns etc. Not quite big enough for a coach, but certainly the size for airport fire tenders. Carmichael are specialist builders of fire engines, quite a few of the fire engines you see running round are built by Carmichael still, as they were bought out by Dennis. Great work on the coaches, they look a lot betted

[@DeanPark]

Philip Lettley hi thanks :-)

[@C-MAGs]

A damn fine job Dave. Those were the colours that I worked on in my Scotrail days and I would have had to change it too but you did a really great job there. Well done!!!

[@DeanPark]

Rolica Hi, Thanks. They look the business! Bit annoying that I had to do it in the first place!! I’ve got another 15+ oxford mk3 to correct.. but I think I’ll leave it for now lol. Cheers. Dave

[@paularmstrong4546]

Nailed it Dave, The 2 coaches look like night and day vast improvement. Job well done.

[@DeanPark]

Paul Armstrong thanks. Dave

[@cedarcam]

The end result is excellent Dave. Well worth the time it took. If I get round to painting mine I know where to find a very well presented step by step. Thanks for that

[@DeanPark]

cedarcam hi, glad you found it useful. :-) Dave

[@Kevin-mm5ix4dc7y]

Very informative thank you. I’m sure you’ve increased the value of those coaches.

[@ralphwest8156]

Amazing job' brilliant video' ...love the 'multi million pound Dean Park Paintshop' - Genius'

[@DeanPark]

Ralph West lol thanks. Dave

[@diesel1395]

Enjoyed the video .Always enjoy seeing the trains running

[@DeanPark]

diesel 13 13 Hi thanks. So glad you enjoyed it too. Cheers. Dave

[@Jonsie66]

Fantastic job David, they look incredible! I'll send some Intercity ones your way to do next! haha

[@DeanPark]

James Jones yeah let’s just say £50 a coach.... to help pay for hair dye to cover the grey hairs it will cause me!! Lol

[@NewJunction]

That was a tense bit of KZbin Telly watching you steadily apply those transphers!

[@DeanPark]

New Junction bafta nominated for the ‘best moment on tv 2019’!! I’m up against a murder scene from eastenders... so I fancy my chances!!

[@onnomulder9775]

Awesome job Dave!!! You are an artist!!! Cheers Onno.

[@DeanPark]

Onno Mulder hi thank you Onno. I do try my best! I may be the best, attract the most views, or chase the limelight like some, but one thing you will get at Dean Park is a willingness to try and succeed! When I set my mind to something and go for it! That’s what makes this project so rewarding. Cheers. Dave.

[@wheezypalacemodels7726]

Nice work Dave, very fiddly but very rewarding... great job, cheers, Chris

[@DeanPark]

Wheezy Palace N gauge hi cheers. I was blown away by the results I achieved. :-) extremely rewarding. Cheers. Dave

[@paulbaker916]

You've definitely nailed that. Well done.

[@DeanPark]

Paul Baker Cheers. If only oxford had listened to us I wouldn’t have had to do it. :-(

[@Culreoch]

Hi Dave Great video and it was great having a chat at Perth (on steps to car park and talked about respraying the coaches). Makes a big difference and worth the effort. By the way, you must be delighted with the new Heljan announcement regarding the upgraded 47!! What next? A new class 37?? Best regards John

[@DeanPark]

Culreoch hi yeah lol. The places people end up chatting! I’m blown away by how good these have turned out! U said you used a fine liner for the black details such as the handrails... can you give me more details about what you used? :-) cheers. Dave.

[@Culreoch]

DaveClass47 Hi Dave You have a good memory! For the handrails, I used a 6” steel rule with a strip of cork on the back, so as not to damage any paintwork, and the black was done with a Staedtler permanent Lumocolor with a fine tip. I also use this on my resprays when a fine black line required around window frames. Used it on 56103 which Steve showed on His Instagram advert. Best regards John

[@brucewelsh1969]

I thought at the beginning of the video when you run the rake into shed it would come out the other side painted. 😁

[@DeanPark]

Bruce Welsh lol. I thought about that. Cheers. Dave

[@timsytanker]

Quality work from a top KZbinr. Always look forward to the next video.

[@DeanPark]

timsytanker hi thanks! :-) so glad you like what I did, I’m really pleased with. T results. Cheers. Dave

[@paulb7200]

Looks much improved mate but does beg the question of why a company can’t get the colour match correct in the first instance?! Yours look much better and actually resemble the real version. All the best mate, Paul

[@DeanPark]

Hi, thanks :-) I’m extremely pleased by the improvement. It you’re right, in this day of digital paint matching it seems beyond comprehension that a new company would be so dogmatic and believe their one is correct, even when it’s wrong!! All they had to do was Colour match Bachmann or Hornby and they would have been highly praised! Sadly their attitude of ‘push ahead regardless’ was a poor decision! Cheers Dave

[@paulb7200]

Thanks Dave, yes didn’t think of that but yes that would make sense and should be relatively straightforward you would think. Excellent layout by the way and thanks for uploading all the detailed videos. As someone who used to be into the hobby many years ago I can’t get over the level of detail and realism that you and others are able to achieve compared to from what I remember of layouts in the past. Seriously considering getting bank into it but that said can’t believe how much the prices have gone up too!! Years ago had a 00 loft layout and then went to N but think if I take it up again would probably go back to 00. Thanks again. Paul

[@markosolowey5887]

Excellent video thanks for sharing.

[@DeanPark]

Grandad Choo choo Hi, no problem, so glad you enjoyed it. Dave

[@nigelcarter9503]

Good video, Dave.

[@DeanPark]

Nigel Carter hi thanks. I’m really pleased with it. :-)

[@bjoe385]

Wow, I never knew they had little bathrooms fitted.

[@pentop63]

Excellent video Dave 👍👍 Are you planning to do a video going through the kit used in the paint shop ?

[@DeanPark]

Andrew Sefton thanks. If I remember I’ll take a wee look at the paint shop in future. But other than the extractor there’s not much else loll

[@mytinplaterailway]

Brave - and skilled.

[@DeanPark]

Ian B Hi, thanks. I try my best :-) Cheers. Dave

[@fatwalletboy2]

Probably the most vital part is the mixture of paint and your airbrush air pressure setting.

[@DeanPark]

fatwalletboy2 yup. Just thinned enough and a 20-25PSI pressure. Cheers. Dave

[@ewoodrailway]

Another great tutorial, thanks for sharing

[@DeanPark]

Hi, thanks, glad you enjoyed it.

[@marksinthehouse1968]

How on earth did you get two thumbs down mate ,great post Dave 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@DeanPark]

1968concorde hi! Thanks. You can’t please everyone! Cheers. Dave

[@frozenmarauder2747]

Well done Dave! They now look just as they should! I may have made a brew while watching your video, but how long do you think the whole process took you? All the best... You have a very attractive rake there now : )

[@DeanPark]

Frozen Marauder oh now... each coach 20min to mask. Masked them about 3ish times!... so there’s 160minutes lol painting, varnish etc about 5 hours. Then transfers another 2 hours!.... fine detail painting etc... another 2-3hours. Dismantling and putting coach together, another 1 hour. Plus all paint prep, cleaning airbrushes etc etc.... I’d say about 15 hours plus, for 4 coaches. I wondered if I’d get there. But so glad I did. Cheers Dave

[@frozenmarauder2747]

DaveClass47 Thanks Dave, I was just wondering how much it would cost me for you to do mine, that’s all. ; ) Ha! Only joking buddy, I don’t know how you fit your own modelling in! Especially with as you mentioned in another one of your videos, a young family and all the other trappings of life. Honestly Dave though... Without a doubt, I don’t think you could have done a better job on those coaches and your layout continues to blow me away! We model the exact same era and region, so as you can imagine, your videos have been without doubt a literal God send! Thanks Dave, looking forward to the next video... Best Wishes...

[@ModelTrainOutsider]

Master class! 😎👍

[@DeanPark]

Anthony Dodge The Model Train Outsider Thank you sir. :-)

[@westcoastmodels]

There you go Dave, easy peasy. They look a lot better now. Well done sir.

[@DeanPark]

Anthony Sutton easy peasy but lots of Timey lol

[@TanVasinTrains]

When is Oxford rail going to produce the Intercity and scotrail versions again with the silver lining and the beige grey sort of color?

[@DeanPark]

I don’t think you’ll see Oxford do the mk3 coaches again! For one main reason: hornby bought them over and are now doing brand new mk3 coaches of their own! This is a shame in some ways, as the interiors of the Oxford mk3 are excellent. As are the Gangway end details. Which still look to be better than the new hornby version. However, the Oxford coach is not with out it’s issues. For example the coupler is awful. It sags and falls apart too easily. Then the shape of the underframe is not right…it still looks good on the model but it’s not accurate. The livery colours Oxford used were all wrong! I’ve repainted the bottom and top band of my scotrail and INTERCITY coaches and now they look great. Oxford said people wanted ‘accurate colours’ so they claimed to have listened and given us accurate colours. But they didn’t! So in short, I don’t think you will see another run of these coaches. Despite them being the only MK3A (hornby only do the HST versions with no buffers) on the market.

[@TanVasinTrains]

@@DeanPark Maybe Lima is the only other one that makes these types of cars. And they actually got it right? Oxford rail is a meh.

[@jerryallen34]

I enjoyed watching this Dave and although I would never attempt this myself I do like the Scot Rail livery, did they ever travel south of the boarder? I have ordered a BR one for Kampala Rd to see what they are like. Cheers Jerry.

[@DeanPark]

Jerry Allen thanks now I they did see use south of border after being released by scotrail in 1990. So they would have still run in that livery until being repainted. Cheers Dave

[@roberthill6216]

The 47/7's were all used by Network southeast. I have seen videos of 47701 in Scotrail livery on west of england duties before painting into NSE livery. 47706 kept its Scotrail livery until scrapping in 1996. I have seen videos of this on west of England workings and a parcels train at kings cross. Soi Buakkhou has some videos of them. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5Kskqp8ZppomK8 47706 at king's cross. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKm7hp6QetCZos0 47706 at Salisbury. Hope that helps.

[@geordielad9636]

Hello again Dave we spoke a while ago about manufactures getting colours incorrect, they go to great lengths to get models as accurate as possible then get the colours wrong. You have done a terrific job on the Mk3s and now all loco and coaches match, you will be well chuffed. I also have a large loft layout and it gets up to almost 100 degrees in summer, I bring ALL my 60+ locos and countless wagons and coaches downstairs (into the house) to prevent them being damaged from the heat. I am approaching 75 years old and it is getting too much for me (going up and down on loft ladder), my question to you is:- am I being overcautious? do you leave all your rolling stock in your loft over the summer and if so has any damage been done to locos/rolling stock?. I hope you don't mind my asking you this. Cheers Dave from one Watson (Bill) to another.

[@DeanPark]

William G. Watson hi. Thanks for getting in touch. I bring my locos downstairs in summer to prevent the mechanisms from getting dry in heat. I also bring my coaches down but leave my wagons. Cheers. Dave

[@geordielad9636]

@@DeanPark Thanks Dave for the info, Bill.

[@kevinmottram9491]

Super job Dave, those coaches are transformed. Did you think about adding passengers and/or interior coach lighting whilst you had them all apart like that?

[@DeanPark]

Kevin Mottram hi thanks. Not yet, but I said I’d never paint the coaches and did. So maybe one day!!

[@stmichaelshill7421]

Great work - really makes all the difference! Really nice and clear instructional video! Just a shame you have to do it in the first place!!!

[@DeanPark]

St Michael's Hill hi, thanks. Yeah it’s not ideal when you have to go to these lengths to get it correct... if Oxford had listened to customers concerns following the initial batch of Swallow livery ones this could have all been avoided. :-( But I really got a bit of pride from doing this. Cheers Dave

[@greghale9972]

Hi Dave, what a very interesting video. Approximately how long did it take to repaint each coach. Congratulations on a brilliant job. Cheers Greg

[@DeanPark]

Greg Hale hi! Thanks Greg. All in all for the lot.. about 15-20 hours. Worth it I think :-) Dave

[@gazclass58]

Excellent video dave they look so much better and they match the 47👍

[@DeanPark]

Leicester tmd yeah, they look great with the Bachmann stock. :-) Dave

[@TrevorLedgeway]

Not into model trains Dave but watched this and really enjoyed it.Also i know what you look like now.....Regards...Trevor.''

[@DeanPark]

Trevor Ledgeway hi Trevor. Thanks. Dave

[@JamesPetts]

I am not sure which is more correct - but they certainly match better now. I do like the ScotRail livery.

[@DeanPark]

James Petts to get them matching Bachmann was a major reason I did it. They look so much better now. Cheers. Dave

[@jamesmartin3431]

That's Great well done!

[@DeanPark]

James Martin cheers. Mega happy with this!

[@alexhill9169]

Excellent stuff dave, loved it, Brave man going straight onto new stock like that, you'll be buying stuff and respraying soon and then you'll have more locos and stock than you know what to do with. How long did it take do do all of the coaches you had? from start to finish?

[@DeanPark]

Alex Hill Hi, thanks. Many many hours of work in these 4 coaches. :-) glad i did it now. Dave

[@julianoallard8398]

Excellent work with the coaches Dave it really does make a big difference to the overall look👍 Just a quick question but where did you get the spray booth/extractor fan thanks

[@DeanPark]

Juliano Allard Hi thanks. Search for ‘portable spray booth’. I got it from eBay, £60-65.

[@edwardmcdermott2672]

Excellent job dave! think you could respray my 43s for me huh? Lol

[@DeanPark]

Edward McDermott cheers. 43’s?

[@edwardmcdermott2672]

@@DeanPark HST or 125s which ever you choose too call them

[@soundseeker63]

I've thought about doing this on their IC liveried coaches. It is annoying to have to repaint a new model to make it look right though. Even ones in the £30-35 bracket. That said, I think they did a better job than Hornby did (they obviously took the nick name "raspberry ripple a bit too literally!). Bachmann seem to have got it about right but nowadays they are charging nearly twice that price for their coaches and for me that is just not affordable :-/ You made the job look surprsingly easy here and the result was very satisfactory. Maybe this is the best/only way to get a properly matching Mk2/3+DVT set (and we all know about the paint finish issues on the DVTs!)

[@DeanPark]

I did the intercity ones too. They now look so much better. :-)

[@esd9782]

Great vid Hopefully you still have your Video for Perth Model Rail show because my phone reset so I lost everthing :(

[@DeanPark]

ESD oh that’s not good. :-(

[@upwellonwards7373]

hey Dave beautiful video mate the repaint did make a impressive difference but mind if i ask if you could would you ever have a steam rail tour on your layout?? massive cheers Aaron

[@DeanPark]

Upwell & Onwards hi! Thanks. Yeah I do have a couple of steam locos, which I sometimes do a rail tour. I’ll see what I can do in my future videos :-) Dave

[@IZZYINN2]

Hi Dave, " Questions please, Whats the spray booth called & where id you get it from ?. & the price as well please. all the best from Appleby Linc's.

[@DeanPark]

Michael Tuffs hi, I got it from eBay, search for ‘portable spray booth’. Cost me £60-65.

[@IZZYINN2]

Many thanks Dave.

[@davidstrains4910]

Great video your have done a great job on them

[@DeanPark]

Hi, thanks. Dave

[@thescrapline4905]

Nice informative video Dave. Re-paints is something I've not really done so I'm lacking in the confidence there especially knowing I'll be using an airbrush 😅 I'm really keen to have a bash at re-paints and having a rake of nse coaches all in the wrong shade of blue is a project I'll be doing fairly soon.. likewise I'm a solvent paint lover and only just started using acrylic - with good results on layering and creating effects etc. That said I'm more confident now using acrylic than solvents.. lol. But knowing the solvent paints leave a better finish I'll be doing my nse coaches in solvent paint and I've never done it!. Was the railmatch paints you used solvent based and did you thin down to any ratio before airbrushing?

[@DeanPark]

The Scrap Line Hi mate. Thanks. Go on get yer airbrush on the go! Lol I thin almost 50/50 but you’ll get away with a wee bit thicker, depending on air pressure. I used about 25 psi for this mix with the coaches. If you do it, hell I might get rusting some wagons lol!! Cheers Dave

[@thescrapline4905]

@@DeanPark lol. The world's supply of masking tape is in the basket waiting.. Now if this goes wrong then I've always got my pots of Rust it to put it right 😆

[@scam009]

Love the Irish accent

[@kingorry7223]

Would this technique work for any loco / coach?

[@DeanPark]

King Orry yeah! :-)

[@TanVasinTrains]

Oh and maybe the reason why it could be wrong is because they might have used the photos which have the bottom grey.

[@DavidAmmerlaan]

So many ads now in youtube :(

[@robertme9080]

Good work, but why should you have to do this in this day and age on a new model ! 'OxRa' can't even get something simple as colour right :-0

[@DeanPark]

Robert Me tell me about it!!! They were told time and time again by everyone from the modelling magazines, media and modellers! They ignored everyone and press ahead arrogantly! It’s put me off buying oxford rail stuff in the future!

[@robertme9080]

@@DeanPark I know some detailed things about 'OxRa', but I'll not go into any detail about how I know, but what you say is correct and it runs VERY deep!!

[@jesuslandaeta9819]

me gusta

[@stephenriley9084]

Meticulous! Regards Stephen.

[@DeanPark]

Stephen Riley thanks Stephen