Sony a7Sii vs a7Rii Which One I Use Most After 8 Months

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Sony a7Rii vs Sony a7Sii, which one do I use the most?
I know I promised a Sony a7sii review a long time ago, already a lot of video comparisons between these two camera, but I have been using both for over 8 months now so I might have a different take on this and there is one camera I use more than the other, so I thought I would share.
I'm not going to guess what camera you should get based on your shooting style since I am sure most have already decided to own one of them by now.
Comparisons:
Both have IBIS, both have the same weak but tiny battery, very similar color science (not the case for a7s original), both do not overheat now
a7rii has a back-illuminated structure sensor that can only go up to 25k ISO for video mode
The a7Rii works best in cropped mode for video, while the a7Sii works best in FF mode
a7Sii is better in low light, but that is only when you get crazy high ISO like over 12,800
But watch out when the a7s mark III comes out with the back-illuminated structure at 12mp that should be amazing!
a7sii has slog2 and 3, while the a7rii only have slog2
a7Sii has aliasing in full frame mode when shooting in 4k where as 1080/24p doesn't have any aliasing
Slog2 starts at ISO 800 for the a7Rii while the a7Sii starts at ISO 1600
A7Rii has 42MP great for stills like landscapes, a7sii 12MP
a7Rii has much better AF-C since it has phase detection AF
a7Sii has slog assist
a7Sii you can shot for slow motion and playback in camera the slow motion, a7rii can't
a7sii can shoot 120fps at 1080, the a7Rii 120fps at 720
a7rii you can shoot 4k in aps-c mode, the a7sii can't
a7sii it is easier to shoot 4k wider than than the a7rii
both has bad rolling shutter
Since the a7sii works best in FF mode, you will get more shallow DOF for shots like interviews
I use Sony a7rii more for the following reasons:
I have created a Sony a7Rii course and a Sony a7Sii course, both I have pixel peeped a ton because these courses take months to make!
When I don't have control over the lighting and it's a high dynamic scene I shoot in slog2, the other times I am using a more linear creative style like Standard, I typically over expose slog by about 2 stops, well guess what happens, most of the time when I am shooting in Standard creative style with the correct exposure and then switch over to slog, the ISO jumps to 800 and the exposure is right where I need it, two stops too bright. With the a7sii it jumps to 1600 or 3200 and then requires downward exposure change, if you don't run and gun like I do this might not be a problem, but for me having to grab and ND filter when it jumps to 3200 is an issue.
The a7Rii AF is better, I use the a7rii a lot on a gimbal with AF and it works a lot better than the a7sii
I don't have to worry about moire when shooting at 4k.
When I am shooting stills I do enjoy having 42MP for portraits or landscapes
I mostly never shoot above 12,800 ISO both cameras have about the same noise below that.
For interviews I use the a7rii for my wide shot in 4k crop mode and the a7sii for my close up at 1080 full frame mode, the a7rii will give me a nice detailed wide shot while the a7sii will give me nice shallow DOF on the close up.
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[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

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[@TheCameraStoreTV]

Love the spoiler alert!

[@graweddingmovies6020]

Was using the a6300 before I just got a new a7sii, and to be honest like Dave, I find myself opting for the better auto focus over low light performance. I'm now thinking about selling my a7sii buying a 2nd a6300 and have €2,000 to play with!

[@addictedtoart]

thanks for your insight Dave. I'm still hoping for an A7iii hybrid with A7rii AF and A7sii video functions + finally 4k with 50p haha One can still dream, right :D

[@mattcarlson12]

I wish!

[@michaelauknz]

Agree 100% I have the same set up /..A7r M11 brilliant amazing and surprising

[@dimanKu]

is your case of A7Sii, maybe A6300 is better choice

[@Tekgila]

1st!

[@LeonardUlrich]

Dave, I respect your perspective, though my perspective is different. I just sold my A7S to get a second A7Sii, and not the A7Rii. Having two identical cameras is a real plus. I ALWAYS shoot in Log, and decide on log curves based on lighting conditions. SLog 2 expands details in highlights. Slog 3 expands details in shadows.Changing the gamma to Cine1-4 greatly reduces 8 bit banding, and allows the ISO to be dropped to as low as 200. While the A7Rii definitely has auto focusing advantages, it does not have SLog 3, 120 FPS HD, or a gorgeous full frame image. Of the 12 lenses I am fortunate enough to own, 9 of them are manual focus, with 6 being Carl Zeiss ZF.2's.There is nothing like follow focusing with a 7" HDR monitor that has focus peaking. I've never noticed aliasing yet on the A7S ii - knock on wood! My Ronin-M gimbal shots are just fine because the subject is always at the centre of the frame. The 12 MP A7Sii can produce full quality stills up to 11"x17", which is perfect for the Canon Pro 100 printer. I have yet to find a client who wanted larger pictures. Regardless, you have my respect.

[@yazidyusop]

bro your short paragraph if very informative.. thanks for sharing... don't mind asking... I have been having trouble using the slog2 in day time... it seem I have (white) noise in the shadow and highlight.. .. wonder if you have any advice... thanks in advance

[@LeonardUlrich]

Sure! SLog 2 requires that you set your EV at +2 to hide white noise. For SLog 3, set your EV to +1.3, though SLog 3 is noisier in the shadows than Slog 2. Adjusting exposure levels in post helps. The Neat Video denoising tool works great. Type my name into KZbin, then have a look at the detailed notes below the videos by clicking on the "show more" button called "Fisherheart" and "Nutimik Moonlight Sonata".

[@yazidyusop]

thanks for your info Leonard

[@PATWICK55555]

Leonard Ulrich Definitely agree with you! I love my a7Sii. Full frame 4K has been nothing but gorgeous and 120 fps at 1080p is awesome. The stills I'm able to get as well have been fantastic and I'm not blowing up photos bigger than what you mentioned either. I love shooting at night and the low light performance on it is incredible. Would love to pick up an a7Rii though one of these days.

[@lofocky]

Hi, could you recommend any instructive films or articles about how to do professional manual focus in cameras like a7s / ii ? Is that possible to do it one man in case of documentaries, music videos etc? I would appreciate any of your suggestions.

[@CinematographyDatabase]

dat chroma key is on point! This is helpful to me, I honestly don't much about the Sony A7S cameras. Thanks for making this video

[@mondobytes]

I agree the A7RII is way better than the A7SII I've used both and always go back to A7RII. Great video Dave.

[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

Thanks Armando!

[@filofaith]

A7SII collects dust im my bag, Definately love the A7RII way more

[@TMartins379]

Really? A $3000 camera collecting dust? You must be rich, can I get it. Believe me, it won't be collecting dust when I get it bro.

[@fallenentity2]

Unless you want the full frame aesthetic.

[@Daygomadebrian]

Canon T6S or 80d or this sony a7ssi Or a7rii ? wanna be able to be a KZbin blogger , take good pics of cars , nature and people , dealerships. Let me know anyone everyone's feedback is welcome. Armando Ferreira

[@DarrenMiles]

Great Job Dave! I'm still not a huge fan of Sony ergonomics, but man those results!

[@Lauwergames]

put a cage arround it

[@photographerjonathan]

interesting video. now you have me thinking about the A7lll. i hope it has a touch screen. but i wont hold my breath waiting on Sony to give us what we all want. but i am ready to ditch my 5Dlll. and i dont think it will be for a 5D4. always enjoy your videos

[@shaolin95]

OK the main issue with this video. When you say the A7Sii is better in high ISO....you are comparing 42MP vs 12MP. You need to be comparing at the same size for an apples to apples comparison. When you do that, they are comparable up to 51200 ISO which is a LOT higher than I would normally go. There are several tests showing this, for example the one by B&H. Go to 3:30 on this video to see it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGnTnKZ7ramSbJY The only real reason to pick up the A7Sii over the A7Rii is if your absolute goal is to use for Video.

[@elams1894]

Thanks Dave! That was helpful. Perhaps they will morph the two cameras for an a7RS model, now that would be a cool thing.

[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

That would be cool. Add a touch screen and call it good.

[@trevorpinnocky]

A dual sensor camera? That'd be a headache for engineers.

[@rasmusjbank]

I agree a touch screen and a little better battery. Then wishfull thinking takes me to 4K at 60 FPS and 1080 at 120FPS for the A7RIII

[@Azmir]

Hi dave, this video couldnt come at a more appropriate time! Looking to get into the sony system soon!

[@Orf]

Azmir what did you decide on?

[@PrinceWesterburg]

This video convinced me to get the A7Rii and I haven't looked back. Used it for 18 months now and I've never had moire issues. I've used a very wide variety of lenses on it and it works superbly with vintage glass but it lives with the Sony Zeiss 24-70mm which is insanely sharp, clean and auto focusses insanely fast. Just a big thank you, I'm loving this camera. I have yet to edit much as I've been avoiding Premiere but now I have DaVinci Resolve on Mac (it is buggy as hell on Windows) I'm happy as can be! :o)

[@AnthonyRecenello]

Wait a7rii isn't full frame?

[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

It is.

[@MillionaireHoyOriginal]

You're making me want to swap out the A7S II for the A7R II

[@VivaLaDirtLeague]

Love your videos Dave. I highly recommend using KZbin End frames now instead of annotations. They're revolutionised the business end of videos for us :)

[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

Thanks, I need to look into that. I am not sure how to use them.

[@AANasseh]

Thanks Dave. I agree with you as I also use my A7Rii more than my A7s. BTW, I bought your A7Rii course and it was awesome! I learned a lot about the menu settings and particularly the various Picture Profiles. You do great tests to show the capabilities of the camera in different settings and how to optimize it. Great job! :)

[@capster55]

Any ideas of when the A7r iii is gonna be announced?? I'm holding out for that!

[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

+chris price sorry no idea

[@cfidev]

today

[@BasicFilmmaker]

Very nice info Dave. Without this, I would have certainly thought the 7S would be the one to go for. And thanks for the awesome array of courses on your site, covering almost all the canon and now sony cameras.

[@retreatliving]

Thanks for the info! Do you have to put it in crop mode if shooting in 1080 on the a7r ii?

[@wojtekanimations2530]

Do you have any idea , when A7s III will come?

[@addictedtoart]

not so fast, if we get to see an A7iii at Photokina in 2 weeks there won't be another release until April

[@BadmashFactory]

Next year, summer, I'm assuming!

[@slangdoll]

For A7Sii, If all you had was a 90mm 2.8 macro prime, what would be your pick for next lens for video?

[@Lawkodi]

I mostly don't shoot video, and when it comes to photography the A7Rii is MUCH better.

[@BobSmith-ez1mo]

I dont agree with this at all. A7s is very fast to shoot, fast to review, files are gorgeous and post is very fast. Often the a7sii will produce a sharper image because of large pixels= less micro blur.

[@eliasaikaly]

I recently purchased an a7r2 as a 2nd body to match my a7s2. I'm rather disappointed in the grain that the a7r2 produces in comparison. On the a7r2, I'm shooting in HD, (client choice) crop mode at ISO's under 4000 and there is an unacceptable amount of noise in the shadows. The a7s2 is flawless. Not certain what's up with this as everyone seems to claim to get good comparable results between the two and those 'lower' ISO's. Is there a setting I've gotten wrong? Anyone else experience this? I recently shot a for broadcast 2 cam interview set up and even at 1200 ISO the a7r2 was noisy. Anyone have any perspective or advice to offer? I'm going to sell it if I can't get this sorted. I bought it for the ability to shoot stills at 42MP while complimenting my other a cam for video. Appreciate your thoughts.

[@marvinmuendelein567]

@Elia Saikaly Did you find a solution? Maybe you didnt expose +2 EV in SLOG, so the shadows have gone noisy?

[@matthewwilliamsbroll3007]

Mr Philip Bloom ESQ says always turn the sharpness down of A7S to avoid issues... interested if you have tried this to see what effect you get on the moire issue.

[@MaxHuisman]

Dave, what's your opinion on the color science in these cameras? In my experience it's not very accurate and the skin tones are always off or just plain ugly. I use a blackmagic cinema camera 2.5K, which is a lot more gradable. Sony tends to fall apart

[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

+Max Huisman not as good as Canon's colors.

[@AndreyTarakanov]

Thanks for your video!

[@firworks]

Howdy Dave, I just saw that you have a GH4 course. On your store page it says not to buy it if you have a GH3 or older camera, but what about a G7 shooter? Is there enough relevant material to make it worth a purchase? I know it won't apply when it comes to some of the settings like Master Pedestal or V-Log but they are fairly similar cameras.

[@91jeff]

Do you not run into any overheating issues with the A7Rii?

[@Interessante1]

Hi! Does it possible to turn on focus picking output to the external monitor on the A7R II?

[@luisvillagran9520]

Should I wait for the a7r iii?

[@tarunagarwal2293]

luis villagran the a9 is out.

[@dontuseitmuch]

Hey Dave grt video..can u plz recommend best camera under $1500 for kids photography and kids videography....I'll wait for ur word before buying....I m thinking about canon 80d, Sony a 6500 or panasonic...confused..plz help

[@saankritmukharjea3053]

Dave i am in a indecisive fix, help me out- With A7R ii, which lens adapter (Canon to Sony) is best suited specifically for VIDEOGRAPHY purposes? Would Metabones give good results in video too as it is said to give for photographs? And MERRY CHRISTMAS !! many good wishes to you and your family.. Happy Clicking..

[@howardkahn717]

Sony could have built the A mount Series without changing the Mount size. they could have continued with the A mount BECAUSE the weight advantage of the E mount is fast disappearing because of quality lenses weight.......They did not have to screw us A mount users.......adopters for A mount lenses, not for me.......Did you notice the prices Sony wants for E mount lenses!....3rd party lens makers could clean up making A mount lenses, but they are not!.....like whats going on with their thinking?

[@EduarFilms]

Hey Dave, just curious on your opinion on this matter and I don't know if you have address this in another video before: don't you miss the colors that Canon gives vs Sony? I have a 6D and a Sony A6000. I really like the DR that Sony gives, but I keep falling back to the Canon just because I really enjoy the colors I get from it and I'm no colorist so it's not so easy to match Sony's colors to Canon's. I've been considering going FF on Sony but the image from Canon I enjoy it more.. anyway, I really enjoyed your video ;)

[@DaleSavageAttorneyatLaw]

I'm wanting to buy the A7Rii but that's what I have noticed with many still photos is that the color just seems noticeably better with cannon or even Nikon cameras when it comes to stills which has stopped me from making a purchase of either so far but I think I'm leaning to a canon just b/c video is not that important to me, they're basically just my personal family videos.

[@techhealthandfood9952]

If you talk to anybody that is on the industry level in film they will tell you Sony's color science is better than canon. I however think it's subjective

[@town3]

I think you've been looking at the wrong pictures lol DaleSavage i've taken tones of pictures that have blown many of Quote on Quote Canon pros out of the water. I really think its about mastering your gear and your post workflow on that note.

[@nicumarinoiu5358]

sony colors are not the same as canon colors because the sensor 's are made from different materials

[@F1b3r-l4m]

s-Start learning colorgrading and you will forget about the 6D. Shooting in S-Log gives you so much creative freedom and power.

[@gamingkingX]

I think its just a personal thing you use the 7Rii most - because you do a lot of personal photography (which the 7Sii could easily do anyway). The 7Sii is a better videocamera. The S-Gamut3.cine gives much more pleasing colors then the traditional S-Gamut3 of the 7Rii. 7Sii does lovely 120fps in clear 1080p. The 7Rii does ugly 720p = not usable in my mind. Beautiful Fullframe 4K as the only camera on the planet. And if you want more reach just use Clear Image Zoom. The problem with the 7Rii is the crop mode. To effectively use the 7Rii it you have to have two sets of glass: fullframe AND S35/APS-C. With the 7Sii you can invest in all fullframe glass. 12mp is enough for a camera - i do professional photography. Do i want 20mp and have a oversampled image.. Sure! But 42mp. That is too much. I don't need it. I would have to print 10m high image and stand 1m from it to use it fully. So i still think the 7Sii as a videocamera is better. And the 7Rii is a better stillscamera.

[@Australopithec]

Which one is better for Night time lapses, I moved from the Canon80D to Sony A7 (rubbish for the night lapses), and now I cant choose which one is better particular for Milky Way lapses... Before that video I was definitely for a king of low light A7Sii, but now I'm disappointed. Also the price is big deal for me A7sii I can buy slightly used for $2000 AUS, A7Rii -$2500Aus and A7II almost brand new only for $900Aus (I'm from Australia). My lapses are Ok and the lens is Samyang 14/2.8 but still not perfect, lot of noise even on 3200 ISO ((( and I decide to buy A7S ii which could help me with the noise problem.

[@wisclovesdmb]

Currently shooting on the Canon 5dmiii and looking at switching to the A7rii for 4K and photos. I mainly shoot photos, about 85% of the time. Should I get an adapter to use with my 24-105f4L lens and my Tamron 70-200 f2.8 lens or should I just look at completely going to native lenses on the Sony? Thanks for your video. This really helped me lock down the rii vs the sii.

[@danielhorn4647]

Dave! I have done a good deal of searching and can't solve this stupid little problem with my .ARW files. When I shoot stills wether it's in Cine1-4 or PP off the photos always look nice and flat in camera and when I'm looking in mac finder they look exactly how I took them. But when I open in preview or PS or anything they drop like 2 stops darker and significantly more saturated. I'm sure it's a stupid setting I'm messing up cuz I'm new to the cam but what could it be? I have a big shoot coming up and really don't feel like shooting photos 2 stops up just to compensate.

[@slangdoll]

Should I not even consider the A72? I want something for video... I have the original A7 and I find the quality isn't great for video with the old codec and I thought I could turn my 55mm into an 85mm with the APS-C crop-mode but the imperfections are just magnified... I thought the S was the one for video and the R was for photography and now I'm second guessing everything!

[@li-chungchih7494]

Great! I would be very interested in some Resolve courses and how you edit your film! That would be excellent!

[@jamescooper4032]

Dave, what are you using for your background? Are you using a greenscreen and then making it black? or do you have a black backdrop? If so is it paper or cloth and how far away from it are you? Thanks. I love the fact that you are using a black background that blends with the side black bars of KZbin when in Theatre mode. Makes your video look like it's in Super widescreen.

[@SMGLA364]

In other words the A7s is a bullshit camera only for consumer consumption. I was thinking id have to "upgrade" from my beloved a7rii

[@Daygomadebrian]

Canon T6S or 80d or this sony a7ssi Or a7rii ? wanna be able to be a KZbin blogger , take good pics of cars , nature and people , dealerships. Let me know anyone everyone's feedback is welcome.

[@lofocky]

Would apsc lens like 16-50 f 2.8 autofocus work fine with a7rii?

[@jmez927]

sony color sucks 👎the menu system was made by a crackhead and their customer service blows. The only reason i wont throw my a7s2 away is because of the low light and size. it will be the last sony ill buy. waiting for a 4k d750 nikon.

[@FRANKRICECOLD209]

i Know is if They Are Going To Release The Cameras That Are Rumored To Be Coming Out Like The Sony a7Siii - a7Rii and The Sony a9 That is one Step Above The a7 Line ( They Better Get a Bigger Better Battery Life

[@ERP_Klim]

Fantastic Dave. Got the A7RII When it got released and doing both the photo and Video. Sadly those lunatics with their iso 400k dont get that it doesnt make it a better video camera.

[@sanderaits]

The a7s had a big marketing point about full-pixel readout and therefor not creating any moire and aliasing. Based on your experience, the pixel-skipped(binned) a7R is actually better than the a7s in that regard?

[@Pierluca72]

The A7rii in crop mode is not pixel skipped. It does a full readout of about 15 Mp and downscale it to 4k

[@techhealthandfood9952]

The a7rii has a superior image to the a7sii because it shoots a 5k image and scales it down into a 4K image. The a6300 has a superior image to the a7rii because it shoots 6k image and scales it to a 4K image. That being said 4K is 4K and it's ridiculously sharp on any of the three cameras. Each camera put out by Sony has it own unique thing, very clever Sony!

[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

Yes.

[@techhealthandfood9952]

what we need is a a9s @ $5k with all those features combined

[@PaulRamen]

Well, you have to choose between higher sensitivity (a7s) or higher resolution (a7r), you can't have both because of the importance of pixel size

[@emilhenrik-pedersen6487]

Which one I USED* most after 8 months!!! use is present tense, used is past tense, come on this is basic and I'm from Norway!

[@MrPoliteto]

hi, in your video you say you dont have face detection on your a7sii but i do have it on mine specially in 4k but I do lose face detection in 120 fps.

[@microbroadcast]

Very useful comparison. Thanks for posting.

[@tdf488m]

basically sony can make one camera andrade off two . all that difference in 7s2 and 7r2 just software limit :D

[@cashmiller2999]

Hey Dave have you had the chance to compare these to the Fuji xt2 or xpro2 thanks!!

[@Alexander-tj2dn]

Better AF and number of pixels are good reasons for buying A7rll

[@nacarkekia3505]

Hello from georgia, I have a slight problem and hopefully you can help me out with it. I am a film director and was waiting for the new Canon 5D Mark IV to come out. After it was released, I checked the features of the camera and read and watched some reviews, including yours, so I realized it is not exactly what I wanted and expected it to be. Therefore, I decided to buy Sony a7s II, Although I think Sony does not have such a variety of lenses and Zeiss Lens for Sony E Mount cost too expensive. So I decided I will buy the Zeiss Normal Lens for Canon Mount and use it with my Sony. Although the problem is: 1. I Can not find a good adaptor, which in case of using auto focus, will not slow the autofocus. Do you by any chance know, what is the best adaptor I could find for it ? 2. Do you know if the Adaptors leak any light ? 3. I need the nd Fliter while using the s-L- Log , So can you recommend which of these adaptors with a Variable nd Fliter on the following links would be better ? Or is there any, you could recommend? Do you think it is better to buy variable Nd Filter separately and the adaptor Separately ? Adaptor links: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1277008-REG/fotodiox_fusion_ndthrtl_eos_snye_fusion_nd_throttle_auto.html www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1041731-REG/fotodiox_vzlx_thrtl_eos_nex_pro_vizelx_nd_throttle_adpter.html Hope for your help, I really appreciate your time, Thank you in advance

[@nyamaabab3648]

why 7s ii ? 7R ii can't video

[@Anglesandacid]

Hi Dave, I'm wondering why you choose to use the A7RII for your wide shots, and the A7SII for your tight shots for interviews. It seems counter-intuitive to me because of the crop on the R2, vs the full frame on the SII.

[@DaCarnival]

But it makes perfect sense to use your 4K camera for the wide shot (Dave doesn't seem to trust the 4K on the A7Sii) and use the 1080p camera on the close up (where being very sharp can even be detrimental). If you have the right wide angle lens, the crop is no issue.

[@nightdonutstudio]

but a7rII is actually more expensive..

[@TruthSeeker7101]

Nice video dave Thanks ..! will you be doing a video on new 5D MK iv ?

[@genericanduncreative]

Around what quarter will we see the A7mkIII come out?

[@outerheaven9655]

Any idea when will sony update the A7s ii ? Hopefully A7s iii ?

[@danielgebert4556]

someone please make a super cut of Dave saying bye like "bah"

[@Alexander-tj2dn]

Can you tell me what is the best lens set I can buy fo these cameras for a reasonable price?

[@ChadwickFamilyFilms]

This is great. Thanks Dave! Hey I might have missed it - are you ever doing a look at the FS5? Or is it too big for your liking?

[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

I did a video where I used that camera comparing 8bit vs 10bit.

[@ChadwickFamilyFilms]

Oh i've heard you talk about that on a podcast. I'll check it out. Thanks!

[@orangerecords_studio]

dont shoot Slog ! on the a7 s II. use the cine4, they only way.

[@CarFinanceSimplified]

I have an A7S Mark 1 and it has face detection and face registration? Does the A7SII not have this then?

[@Niggalodeon323]

JD it has it...it's just not as good as the face detection in the A7RII

[@BeamingVideo]

Thanks a lot for this video. I was looking to buy either A7R II or A7S II but I wasn't sure which one but moving more towards the A7R II because of the 42MP for stills. About the 4k shooting in Apsc mode, do you mostly record in camera or externally? Do you mostly use Sony lenses of Canon and others via adapters? Thanks.

[@inboxnews]

SUMMARY: For super low-light witchcraft buy the 'S'. Period. Full-stop. Everything else; Panasonic GH5 or the 'R'.

[@dimokirilovmilev2017]

Hi Dave! From your experience is the A7S better for video and the A7R better for photography? Thank you for you videos!!!

[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

Yes, absolutely

[@BarefootMediaTV]

i currently have the gh4 for video and nikon d750 for photos... still debating selling both for the hybrid a7rii... i just hate that you arent supposed to shoot full frame 4k. I dont even know what lenses I would get shooting cropped in

[@ChadWork1]

Nice comparison Dave. I may have to wait for the A7SIII! I just bought the X5 (M4/3) camera for my Inspire 1, as well as the Osmo handle (still waiting), and so far the camera is getting nice footage.

[@itsMeJustin]

could we see a a7s ii vs gh5 comparison once the gh5 is out

[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

I think that will happen.

[@itsMeJustin]

Awesome!!! and thanks for your super quick reply. : ) I cant wait to see it

[@viskerfezer4732]

Got mine on Amazon today has the best price at the moment www.amazon.com/Sony-Full-Framffe-Mirrorless-Interchangeable-ILCE7RM2/dp/B00ZDWGFR2/?tag=techjok-20

[@itsMeJustin]

Cant wait to hear about the reviews

[@BadmashFactory]

GH5 - APRIL 2017

[@RemoFiore]

I hadn't seen any of your vids for a while, no particular reason but that of not having the time, but your quality has definately increased since last year. lovin it. I'm finally thinking of changing up my now very outdated gear, but really don't have the monies to do it, so gonna have to save a lot. hahahaha. I think I'll finally decide to buy a sony A series camera, although I'm coming from Nikon for photo and panasonic Cams for video, I have also begun shooting video with the Nikon (D7000) to be precise and I must admit it's not at all bad, especially using my old manual AE lenses. Love em to bits. But I think it's time to move on for video quality... Panasonic Vcams (AC130 + TM700) just won't cut it any longer. unfortunately. Althoug I'm not complaining, I got a good run for my monies on both cameras. Anyway enough ranting on, back to your vids, Thanks for sharing all of your knowledge and expertise, helps me keep up with what's going on in the world of video and photo. Also for introducing me to Matt's channel, awesome stuff. Gonna be binging on yours and Matt's for a bit. Have a great day

[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

Remo Fiore thanks! Welcome back.

[@Elmercuaton]

So what do you think its better to wait the A7s3?

[@Moedaprince]

what happened to your 5dmiii?

[@lameirasfilms]

Could anyone help me? I'm having a filming problem with sony alpha a7S II. All the vídeos I made have noise... i buy this camera recently, I used to work with canon. There is anyone who could tell me the right configuration to the noise reducion? I'Ve tryed with a lot of different definitions and it's not Going well. I never had this problems with canon before.

[@3DListings]

Slog? If so don't under expose. If you buy my course I talk about this a lot in my slog and CS chapter.

[@SomdahSaysSo]

Great video. I've been researching the A7S/A7R and Canon 70D/80D for a camera upgrade so this video is helpful.

[@chrislongley]

Great video Dave. Sony delivering such good cameras but why can't Sony listen to yourself, TheCameraStoreTV , Northrups and everyone else who complains about the same Sony annoyances - such as the shutter button not starting recording in movie mode. Can you lot join forces and actually get some changes made on behalf of your viewers?

[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

Chris Longley I think Sony enjoys overcoming the largest technical challenges first before they fix the easy stuff.

[@EastyUK]

Great video mate. I've had the r2 since it came out and i've made so many videos with it. It's amazing with that sony wide and I use a batis 85 for video a lot more than I thought I ever would. Only thing i desire, maybe they would do an app, Would be predefined focus zones and then be able to dictate speed to bounce between them.

[@vanzetti7]

Hey mate can you do a tutorial on sound recording for interviews. Your workflow, equipment break down, problems you encounter etc. I would gladly buy a tutorial on that one.

[@Quarker]

So how big of a deal is the crop sensor video on the Rii vs the full frame video on the Sii? If I get the R, am I essentially paying $4k AUD for APS-C video?

[@PrettyinWhiteUK]

You can use a speedbooster and Canon EF lenses on the A7R2 in crop mode, and it effectively becomes full frame. Then you lose the nifty AF with native Sony lenses. For straight video, I prefer the A7S2, mostly because of the quality of HD / slow mo footage. If you shoot any stills or need AF, get the A7R2.

[@StephanEilert]

Nice! One thing though: use your tripod collar on your 70-200, hahah freaks me out when I see its being used on the camera. Really good review, thanks!

[@LoganNelson]

This is 100% all of the information I was looking for. Your videos are the best I've found. Thanks a bunch!

[@whatshappening177]

When shooting with the A7Rii, 4k, crop mode are you using APS-C lenses. Also when taking the footage into Premiere is it still the same frame size just cropped in?

[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

I use both FF and crop lens in that mode. As for your other question which I am not sure I understand, but if you shoot in 4k it will be 4k in PPro when you bring it in.

[@TechProof]

Very nice video Dave!

[@GrumpyOrang]

What lens do you use for autofocus on the A7R2? Needs to be a native Sony lens doesn't it? Or would a metabones adaptor plus any canon chipped lens (not necessarily Canon brand) work just as well?

[@GrumpyOrang]

Just interested since I'm looking to do up a Ronin M with A7r2 rig and am wondering whether I also need to buy a Sony native lens for good auto focus. I've heard Metabones adaptor with any Canon lens will give you native focusing speed, but is that only for stills? Or does that work for video as well?

[@ChanseyhaEng]

GH5 almost release. I m not sure should I get Sony a7RII it GH5. I am just normal user. Any recommend

[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

Not sure yet, I will have to get a GH5 into review.

[@jbx907]

A9 has come out hehehe

[@jbx907]

A9 has come out hehehe

[@ded_waso]

hey Dave Can I Map APS-C Crop Mode on some custom Buttons for fast switching!

[@AllenFreemanMediaGuru]

BrutalBomzh I have not tried it but I keep seeing other videos saying you can't map a button for that.

[@mickspawn]

Dave Dugdale, i am eagerly awaiting the A7RIII course.. money ready to throw at you

[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

mickspawn hoping to release on Friday.

[@SiFO86]

When do you think Sony will come out with mark iii ? So tempted to pick up the R ii, I know my luck the moment I buy the r ii they will announce the iii. Just like they did with the a6500 😩

[@adventureedit5776]

SiFO same

[@KennyRonkainen]

Great comparison Dave!

[@Pierluca72]

Very sad to hear about the moire and aliasing on the S2. Does it do it both when in slog and standard mode? I noticed you keep the sharpness at 0 on the Standard mode instead of -3 and this could in theory add artifacts. Regards

[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

There are many cameras like the 5D3 that are much worse, there is only a slight be of aliasing with the S2. It happens in all PP and CS modes.

[@mlong30]

Which camera would be best to shoot an indoor high school basketball game, from up in the stands at center court, and which lens?

[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

mlong30 both would work the same in that lighting unless you needed 120fps at 1080.

[@RobV523]

Did you green screen this setup and put a black matte behind you in post? Seems different from your earlier studio setups.

[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

Yes I used the green screen on this one.

[@JohnRobertsTV]

Would love to know your thoughts on Sony A7x vs Panasonic GH4 (soon to be GH5). GH4 way cheaper than A7x and I've heard better menus/usability on GH4. Is quality of A7x worth the price premium?