I love the lazy flat earth argument of "oh you put the images into some software, therefore it's fake"
@Green_Tea_Coffee14 күн бұрын
Which is really funny, in light of the fact that every image of the flat Earth is faked in software.
@anteshell14 күн бұрын
I think part of my brain turned into slurry after I saw Flatzoid's smugness. It never stops astounding me how people like him can think they've found some universal truth while the people who study this and more their whole life don't know crap.
@IsYitzach14 күн бұрын
@@Green_Tea_Coffee Except the Apollo 17's "Blue Marble" where they just turned it upside down. They didn't have CGI in 1972. You only have to rotate the film/photo when done. So... Maybe you've believed a lie.
@SteveLaw-UK14 күн бұрын
@@IsYitzachI'm pretty sure that wasn't an image of flat Earth.
@bjornfeuerbacher551414 күн бұрын
@@IsYitzach Read the comment by Green_Tea_Coffee again. Carefully. I think you misunderstood his point. :D
@markboz336614 күн бұрын
Flerfs, please note, this is what happens when you're honest. You find errors in you work and admit then make corrections. You don't double down with more incorrect information.
@jimnaden559414 күн бұрын
I had a video show up on Facebook where a bunch of Flatulents were crowing on about "Now that TFE has been proven to be all faked". As expected they would scoff and sneer at any rebuttals that showed they were wrong about the alleged fakery.
@peterz235214 күн бұрын
Hear hear
@kerianhalcon355714 күн бұрын
But if you correct your mistakes how are you to look like a complete numpty?
@thomasw.eggers430314 күн бұрын
@@kerianhalcon3557 I've been working with computer since 1961. Errors are common. NOT correcting them is the "numpty" method. Coverups are worse than the errors.
@kerianhalcon355714 күн бұрын
@ Sorry I thought the sarcasm was implied.
@geoffwales864614 күн бұрын
This is why documentaries have teams of people to manage all this stuff.
@SteveLaw-UK14 күн бұрын
Dave: Hold my beer.
@no_rubbernecking14 күн бұрын
You're right, though that is perhaps a bit harder when half of the overall group is against the documentary.
@GamesFromSpace10 күн бұрын
I mean, there's only five billion people working on the globe conspiracy. They don't have the resources to manage photos like that.
@christopher41019 күн бұрын
This is all pretty dumb. Anyone can prove a globe. Every day. No money needed. No need to go to the poles, it isn't hard at all to demonstrate....
@megasaturnv57314 күн бұрын
So satisfying that my perspective of the sun was almost exactly 180 degrees from you were seeing. Glad I could help! 😄
@derrickwolters869414 күн бұрын
Thanks for your contribution!
@lXlDarKSuoLlXl14 күн бұрын
You're a real one, thanks for giving us the opportunity to laugh at flerfs 🎉
@jimnaden559414 күн бұрын
Thank you for helping.
@pbezunartea14 күн бұрын
So cool!
@deryk2002au14 күн бұрын
Well done. This is great info
@FloydMaxwell14 күн бұрын
Dave works a thousand times harder than the "best" Flat Earthers
@Hunter-NG14 күн бұрын
Your comment is null and void. Flat earthers do not work.
@bigfatbruce14 күн бұрын
Wouldn't that still be equal to zero though? Jk 🙂
@yoshi31414 күн бұрын
that's the problem. they make up arguments, and expect others to do all the work.
@kevinfairclough461914 күн бұрын
@@bigfatbrucelove the zero joke! 👏
@c.e.g744814 күн бұрын
Flat Earthers work? Sorry but that is a bad joke. All they do is regurgitate what other misguided people said about 175 years ago. They refuse to do any real test. The tests some of them did were faulty or at least grossly misinterpreted.
@OrenArieli14 күн бұрын
I appreciate the transparency you always display. It's the "polar opposite" of anything the flat earth community puts out. Having also done many time-lapse videos myself, I give you extra props for going through the process while the flerfs on the TFE basically showed up with a GoPro and warm clothing.
@marambula14 күн бұрын
they complained about wanting gopros given to them and paid for by the trip organizer too. meanwhile da global boyz did their homework, had contingency plans, and did the work bringing their own equipment. flerfs we’re just freeloaders and are now dealing with fans that are calling them liars and questioning their christianity, reaping what they sowed.
@OrenArieli14 күн бұрын
@@marambula "Gotta' lie to flerf'. Has there ever been a more accurate truism short of 'death and taxes' being the only constants?
@rudolfquerstein671014 күн бұрын
@@marambula Honestly this is only true for Witsit. Lisbeth never was a big flat earth star, she just won a free ticket to be there. And Jeran left flat earth and Jonathan while being a flat earther, was not really someone who seemed to be too deep into it, and I'm not sure where he stands now, from what I heard of him he is also not a flat earther anymore, but I don't really know.
@bungeetoons14 күн бұрын
@@marambula The irony is, authors of the Bible didn't think the Earth was flat. The Earth is referenced as a circle, most likely meaning sphere in context.
@nonstopscott00714 күн бұрын
@@bungeetoons Most likely cuz you said
@Ruonkrak14 күн бұрын
He's not geting confused between "cropping" and "resizing". He's flat-out accusing you of intellectual dishonesty.
@-tera-334514 күн бұрын
Yeah, I kinda got the impression that he was claiming the actual circle of the sun was cropped, changing the actual sun size. Not that they were all just cropped to an equally-sized square space around the sun.
@jozzetv14 күн бұрын
@@-tera-3345 which would be easily debunkable if fkatzoid or keith would baother to look at the original raw files... but instead he only relys on selected youtube videos, as all flerfs do. Never actually going to the source.
@SteelCityJW14 күн бұрын
Fkatzoid thinks cropping out dead space on a photo is changing the objects angular size.
@Peter_Scheen14 күн бұрын
Resizing could not have explained the 24 hour sun. They are really stupid.
@marylynne910414 күн бұрын
@@jozzetv- exactly, as you say, the most egregious thing about that is most of them only look at each others videos, and never bother to look at the original source material at all. Then they just copy each others’ talking points. Easy money, no intellectual input required at all.
@BrianTCollins14 күн бұрын
The world has witnessed an epic series of firsts captured live by you and the TFE team. Too bad the Flat Earth cult is too deceptive & stupid to realize that you guys made history. Thanks Dave!
@Green_Tea_Coffee14 күн бұрын
I think at this point TFE has probably made it much, much harder for the flerfer movement to recruit new people. The existing grifters and true believers won't be swayed, but it's now a much harder thing for them to recruit new adherents.
@rudolfquerstein671014 күн бұрын
@@Green_Tea_Coffee It also caused some serious splintering. There are the people around David Weiss who acknowledge the 24h sun and somehow try to add it to models. There is the Oakley/Dubay guys who just ignore it or claim it is faked, then there are also the demonstrable realists... well only one, who does whatever, I don't really know. The split into those two camps is fairly interesting. The DIRTH people acknowledge the sun doing what it does, but it is hard to tackle them because they don't have a real explanation what people saw. I think Jeran already tore down a few of their ideas. The Oakley and Dubay people don't even go there. They just claim that it is faked or that what the sun does tells you nothing about the earth, which would be true... if the flat earth was not illuminated by the sun. Many of those stumble if you either take away their arguments about a fake, which was done step by step by releasing more material over time. Like the drone flight sounds fairly ridicolous in a studio does it... but this wasn't known to many flat earthers initially, that they flew a drone 5000 ft into the air. The most prominent losses are likely Jeran and Jonathan (from what he said, he also isn't a flat earther anymore, but he never was that deep into it I think). But it isn't unlikely that it also convinced some others. We know that before it started it rankled people that Dubay and Oakley did not join them. Unlike other flat earthers both were invited as guest and would have their costs covered. I think the 3rd one is David Weiss, but unlike the other two he acknowledges the 24h sun... at least he did the last time I saw something from him. So he doesn't have the struggle to explain why he claims it was faked but did not want to ensure it is not by going there.
@AnthonyAnthony-tk4ye14 күн бұрын
All greenscreen and mirrors… 😜😂😂🤑
@IsYitzach14 күн бұрын
@@AnthonyAnthony-tk4ye I'd like to see you try to reproduce these results with "green screens and mirrors." It won't go well and if it does, the budget it going to be more. It would be easier to do it for real than to fake it.
@chriscrosstheworld71614 күн бұрын
@@Green_Tea_Coffee That's beauty of TFE, its done now and it will be around (pun) forever. Anybody else big shaken from the flerffing??
@garethrichards72314 күн бұрын
One of the things I love most about Dave is his complete transparency and patience. Always willing to admit errors and then explain what the effects were on the data.
@DamascusSteel-j1f14 күн бұрын
When’s he going to admit he failed to destroy the FE.
@paradanglers14 күн бұрын
Oh boy Damascussteel, you REALLY haven't been paying attention have you?
@JohnM366557014 күн бұрын
@@DamascusSteel-j1f , When are you going to admit that flat earth is the lie?
@JohnM366557014 күн бұрын
@@DamascusSteel-j1f The sun spot photos taken from 3 different locations on Earth showing the same pattern of sun spots on the surface of the sun but in different orientations proves that the Earth isn't flat. If the earth was flat, those 3 photos would show the same pattern of sun spots in the same orientation.
@leftpastsaturn6714 күн бұрын
@@DamascusSteel-j1f When you going to grow up and stop crying because flat erff is a pitiful joke?
@M2M-matt14 күн бұрын
Taking these errors into account it doesn't disprove the the globe predictions and the results. The sun does not set and clearly you see it 360° around you within those 24 hours.
@andyjones712114 күн бұрын
All those people, cameras, raw files, 360 footage, time stamps, videos, drones, etc, and they still say it's fake. I mean, Dave took a picture of him taking a picture of his camera taking a picture! This is as airtight as it gets! Anyone who says it's fake shouldn't be taken seriously at this point. They obviously won't be persuaded and they don't care about the truth.
@MxXxD14 күн бұрын
Oh but they blinked, so they lost sight for a milisecond, hence sun set, TFE is fake, flat earth wins hahahahaha
@ShizukuSeiji13 күн бұрын
@@andyjones7121 If a flerfer is critical of TFE just ask them why didn't they go and make their own observations? Anyone who chose NOT to go there now has absolutely zero argument and can be dismissed.
@JHJHJHJHJH13 күн бұрын
Yep. And it is also yet another failure to provide any working model or even the most basic answers to simple questions about how they believe things work. It's just about sowing doubt to keep their cult going. Since the final experiment (and a good while before for many of them) their arguments have been akin to scientists producing an evolutionary timeline of the animal kingdom and the cultists insisting unicorns exist because the scientists didn't spell Tuesday with a capital 't' one time. It's all nonsense and diversionary tactics. They don't want to 'win', they just want to keep the debate going. It makes them a lot of money.
@Green_Tea_Coffee12 күн бұрын
@@andyjones7121 At this point, I'm halfway convinced that the entire flat Earth movement was cooked up by the government as a way to discredit other, actual conspiracy theories and theorists by proxy.
@KatherineWatches14 күн бұрын
It's been incredibly amusing and gratifying seeing the flat earthers collectively have meltdowns, thank you so much for the videos and updates and even on admitting when you make mistakes! Love your stuff keep it up!
@hansweichselbaum253413 күн бұрын
The funny thing is that they keep going!
@Case_14 күн бұрын
Anyone claiming that the Sun changes size when it rises or sets is literally saying "beware, I make wild claims about trivial stuff I never bothered to actually verify, despite it being piss easy". Also, seriously, your videos and your thoroughness going through everything are once again exceptional and as always setting standards for transparency and full disclosure. Well done (again, as always.)
@rakninja14 күн бұрын
that's like one of the first things you learn when you take even a passing interest in astronomy. stuff at the horizon looks bigger to the eye because you have things to compare the object in the sky to. when things are closer to zenith, you have nothing to compare them to. a very well optical illusion that we use to demonstrate the concept of checking angular size to grade school children.
@Case_14 күн бұрын
@@rakninja Yeah, but that's a separate thing, Flat Earthers actually claim the Sun/Moon get *smaller* when they are closer to the horizon since they are (according to them) getting further away from you, and prove that by showing videos of the Sun's glare getting smaller as it dims near the horizon, because they don't understand glare and the actual Sun are two separate things (also see Dubay pointing out that "the Sun" gets "smooshed" in the 360 footage while it's actually the glare that can be seen).
@DragonNexus13 күн бұрын
The "prove me wrong" crowd are always maddening.
@DragonNexus13 күн бұрын
@Case_ I think it's the 3D camera that was smooshibg the sun, if I recall Daves video correctly
@Case_13 күн бұрын
@@DragonNexus The glare from the Sun, you mean (which was the point here). Yes, the changes of its shape were due to how the 360 camera works, as anyone familiar with cameras and/or optical devices would (or should, anyway) understand.
@russlehman207014 күн бұрын
The fact that an equatorial mount works at all is pretty solid evidence for a globe earth.
@daveeckblad14 күн бұрын
At a bare minimum, when observed from one location on earth, an EQ mount proves we at least live on a cone. But once you move north or south any non-negligible amount the altitude of the EQ has to change in relation to the round globe we live on.
@PeerAdder14 күн бұрын
@@daveeckblad that's correct. having to change the orientation of the mount to match your latitude wouldn't be necessary on a cone, all you'd need to do is fix it to the apical angle. or keep it at a fixed 90 degrees if we lived on the curved surface of a cylinder with north in the centre of one flat end and south the other.
@nzbeeman13 күн бұрын
In one of the many videos from TFE there is @Dave explaining the EQ mount to @jeranism, you can see the cogs turning as he puts another bit of the jigsaw together
@LordWaterBottle13 күн бұрын
@@nzbeemanI'm gonna have to go find that now, appreciate you!
@joeshmoe796712 күн бұрын
It is actually ABSOLUTE proof of a globe. It is designed based on a tilted, rotating, orbiting sphere. It absolutely could not give the results it does, on a flat motionless earth. If you notice the orientation of Dave's tracker pointed basically straight up. In my back yard it needs to be point at 51 degrees, or all the other angles based on location. Other wise accurate tracking is not possible. I have offered $10K to any flat head who can duplicate the results, for long exposure astrophotography, basic strictly on flat, motionless, horizontal earth. 5 years later, after posting a dozen times. Zero response and of course $$$ is still in the bank. Flat earth's greatest problem is, you cannot prove something that isn't.
@robertkustos293114 күн бұрын
I recall a pilot chasing the sun. He tried to keep it in his sight all the time to prove it doesn't really disappear, therefore proving the globe is spinning. Anyway 15° per hour drift. Thanks bob.
@thewhitefalcon853914 күн бұрын
Did he have to keep turning right?
@tinyear92614 күн бұрын
@ nose down all the way.
@JasenCooke14 күн бұрын
Thanks Bob
@perry9296414 күн бұрын
he would have had to go 1000 mph the whole time
@tinyear92614 күн бұрын
@@perry92964 yeah and if he got tired he could rest as the 1000mph atmosphere pushed him along. Inertial rest frame means nothing to spinners.
@israelSamuel-ur4vq14 күн бұрын
Party for Dave to hit 1 million subscribers
@perryrush656314 күн бұрын
OK ok ok. I finally subscribed since you asked.
@dco856214 күн бұрын
@israelSamuel-ur4vq that would make him the biggest FE grifter of all time
@siwilson143714 күн бұрын
Didn't even notice I hadn't subscribed, thanks for making me go up to check
@melissagiroux163113 күн бұрын
He’s the only flat earth debunker that I’m subscribed to. I love his videos.
@marscience781913 күн бұрын
Agreed. 144K is just way too look given the brilliance and level-headedness of his work
@sintanan46914 күн бұрын
Can we take a moment to appreciate just how big those sun spots are? The sun is massive and those spots are larger than our entire planet.
@subangovender167314 күн бұрын
Dave McKeegan your integrity and thoroughness is admirable. Much respect.
@martinurbani14 күн бұрын
If flat earthers had just an ounce of Dave’s integrity, ….🤔…..they wouldn’t be flat earthers!
@johnnyvernersson224114 күн бұрын
Or a fraction of his intellect 😊
@miraqen780114 күн бұрын
@@johnnyvernersson2241 or a fraction of a normal sane human being's intellect
@jamescollins839713 күн бұрын
I'd trust Rusty's opinion on the subject before a flefers! 🐕🌏✔
@insanecuckooman83423 күн бұрын
you have to understand that for them this is not about facts. it is about feeling so important that the world would conspire just to decieve them about something that is not even important.
@AerialPhotogGuy14 күн бұрын
I am questioning myself at this point, why am I still watching people that refuse to acknowledge reality (flat earthers that is). It may become bad for my own mental health if I continue. Nice work, Dave
@bigfatbruce14 күн бұрын
I enjoy mocking their stupidity.
@johnnyvernersson224114 күн бұрын
@@AerialPhotogGuy I feel the same. 😢
@rakninja14 күн бұрын
well, watching dave specifically, you tend to learn things about the scientific method, photography, and other general bits of trivia.
@PVS-202414 күн бұрын
@@rakninjait's so very true, I'm happy I found his channel. He's a great science communicator. I just wish I was still blissfully ignorant of the pestilence who are flat earthers.
@derekrobillard732011 күн бұрын
@@PVS-2024i hear ya. In my case, I think it will be better for my mental health if I stop trying to reason with flerfs online. Some of their characters are so insufferable.
@mrsulcus67413 күн бұрын
I'm pretty impressed that while waiting for a flight, McToon can just knock together a program to sort out all the image admin.
@Hawk_of_Battle10 күн бұрын
Probably whilst also solving a rubiks cube in a couple of minutes at the same time.
@john_blues14 күн бұрын
Thanks for the honesty and transparency Dave.
@marambula14 күн бұрын
great job with the photography on your trip!
@fatallywound3d34014 күн бұрын
Amazing stuff! The amount of work you put in to capture everything and debunk their excuses before they could even make them is impressive and shows you were the right choice for who to go
@PDG195614 күн бұрын
"... bang goes that idea!" - Brilliant understatement!!!
@2dadsjo96414 күн бұрын
It’s so painful that you have to: photograph yourself, photographing the sun, with timestamps, and backup photos of photos on your phone. All this effort to deal with the insane reactions from the flat earth community.
@Pebphiz14 күн бұрын
And it's STILL faked and paid for by NASA. An exercise in futility.
@karlchilders821514 күн бұрын
Yes but he didn't have anyone take a pic of the camera that was filming him having a blanket placed over his head to block the sun. Checkmate globers!
@Lerithan14 күн бұрын
And then, despite videos of videos of videos, they will still claim it’s fake because….Unreal Engine or something? FE is so dishonest.
@alistairfrith777214 күн бұрын
@@karlchilders8215 actually, there were 2 insta360's so presumably there is another video from the other one, showing both Dave and the first insta360 that filmed Dave, which also will have been filming the other insta360. This is all getting very meta and recursive! Basically, whatever the FEs say TFE should have filmed, they did.
@alexc430012 күн бұрын
Whereas FE community is satisfied with, variously, whiteboards, cgi, hilariously out of scale models, etc.
@kevinfairclough461914 күн бұрын
Brilliantly photographed, Dave. Some expensive gear. But great learning experience, a really good example of a scientific mind. The planning for this was pretty intense, you have my utmost respect. I’d love to have your experience and knowledge. My (late) Dad built an observatory with a rotating roof in the back garden. I wish I inherited his ingenuity.
@squidly211214 күн бұрын
Wow, this is tremendous !! .. Awesome photos! .. it is awesome that so many people have engaged in this adventure .. awesome stuff !!!
@lucvador202513 күн бұрын
Merci Dave pour ton honnêteté, tu es un champion. ❤❤
@4seiken-59414 күн бұрын
The flat earther trying to argue that the sun changes size at sun set.. does he not realize that the sun appears BIGGER at sunset, when according to flat earth, thats when it is further away??? Meaning it should look smaller??? 😂
@finesse4914 күн бұрын
No one has ever accused flerfies of having good reasoning skills.🙂
@rudolfquerstein671014 күн бұрын
The next problem is that the same logic should be true for the moon. Yet the moon is not bright enough to cause any glares, so it more consistently appears at the same size as the sun does. That is why I always ask them for prove that the moon changes size throughout the day, they can't show any of the weird glare images they do with the sun for the moon.
@dco856214 күн бұрын
It depends on the altitude the footage was taken from and the amount of atmospheric lensing due to things like humidity etc. There are tons of sunset videos where the sun shrinks almost to a point. When it appears to get larger the air is magnifying it due to atmospheric conditions. Amazing that this is only ever brought up by globies when trying to dismiss long distance curvature tests but never anywhere else.
@glennledrew834714 күн бұрын
There is an optical illusion whereby the Moon (and Sun if made safely dim) APPEAR larger when near the horizon. This is a well known phenomenon, part of the cause being the proximity to terrestrial objects versus when higher up in the large, empty sky. In actual fact, refraction more commonly makes the Sun ACTUALLY slightly smaller when quite near the horizon. The lower limb is lifted more than the upper limb, resulting in a departure from circular to elliptical. The horizontal dimension is unchanged, but the vertical squashing causes a reduction in angular area. The same occurs for the Moon, of course. But slightly complicating this is the fact of the Moon's comparative nearness, which results in the Moon being slightly farther from an observer when low in the sky, and hence appearing slightly angularly smaller. Between observers where one has the Moon at his zenith and another who has it on his horizon, the difference in distance to the Moon equals 1 Earth radius. I might mention as well this interesting fact. The lunar parallax is about 1°, due to the Earth subtending about 2° as seen from the Moon. This means that for observers on opposite sides of the Earth having the Moon on their horizon (one could be seeing moonrise and the other moonstone, for instance), the Moon's position against the starry background will differ by 2°, or some 4 Moon diameters.
@CorwynGC14 күн бұрын
@@dco8562 Please provide links to those tons.
@Sköldpadda-7714 күн бұрын
Funny how “globers” will make a video admitting and/or correcting errors, mistakes, or misunderstandings, while “truthers” and flerfs don’t. Wonder why that is? 🤔🇦🇶🌏
@patchso14 күн бұрын
Science attempts to disprove it’s hypotheses, while conspiracists attempt to prove theirs.
@heyitsmetrousers439914 күн бұрын
Globers? Noooooooo normal people you mean normal people 😂👍
@ProjectionProjects2.718214 күн бұрын
Because flerfs don't know how to be intellectually honest.
@Sembazuru14 күн бұрын
@@patchso Yeah. My pithy little saying is "The dirty little secret of science is it can never prove anything. It can only disprove or fail to disprove." Feel free to steal it.
@DaedalusYoung14 күн бұрын
Because if the flerfers _would,_ it would end their grift.
@patchso14 күн бұрын
Amazing work Dave. I’m so impressed by the rigour and shear amount of hard graft that you have put into this project. And not surprisingly, the results are both educational and beautiful.
@IanHsieh14 күн бұрын
Flerthers: Ah so are you going to accept that the Earth is flat? Oh wait...
@RainCountryHomestead14 күн бұрын
Thanks Dave, I do truly appreciate all the work you have put into this.
@SteelCityJW14 күн бұрын
Well done as per usual Dave (and Rusty *pat,pat*). Great job everyone around the world who sent in pictures they took from their locations. GREAT GROUP EFFORT!
@mrluckduck155814 күн бұрын
Don’t know how I came across this video. However, I think you did a great job explaining yourself on a subject that shouldn’t need to be explained. Keep it up mate 👍
@RogHawk12 күн бұрын
I love it! You covered everything. I wish I could have sent some sun and moon photos, but it was cloudy here all the time you were there.
@MosyCott13 күн бұрын
Hi Dave, so glad that you found the solar images so usefull, glad to be able to help you and Toon out with TFE, …. Steve from Albany….. :)
@conchi588214 күн бұрын
Thank u! The earth never was and will never be flat! 🌏🚀
@stuartculshaw534214 күн бұрын
What if we let the air out and stamp on it?
@conchi588214 күн бұрын
@ The earth will always be a sphere, all the evidence, all the predictions say so... on the other hand there is denialism and little interest in knowing where we step🤷🏻♀️it is easy to deny without wanting to learn, sorry.
@Slimmeyy14 күн бұрын
@@stuartculshaw5342 "C'MON BE FLAT, YOU STUPID... ROUND THING! BE FLAT! FLATTEN! WHY AREN'T YOU FLAT, YOU STUPID BIG ROUND--"
@awatt14 күн бұрын
As the Earth is covered in uncarbonated water, technically, it's flat.
@conchi588214 күн бұрын
@@awatt Do you mean fluid mechanics?
@normanrubenis728314 күн бұрын
And on another note.... Imagine how massive that green screen studio must have been to fit in a full sized aeroplane and snow vehicles. Amazing eh.
@khananiel-joshuashimunov456114 күн бұрын
NASA has an unlimited budget for deceiving the public to further globe sales.
@ZestaBackfromburnout14 күн бұрын
You can see the size of the studio they used for lives on my community page
@leftpastsaturn6714 күн бұрын
@@ZestaBackfromburnout Translation: 'You can see nothing of the sort on my community page, but please, please give me some attention. Please!'
@NoStringsAttachedPrd14 күн бұрын
@@ZestaBackfromburnout looks like a picture of some distant rocks. prove it's a "movie studio", you didn't bother. literally you get a tiny blurry picture of probably rocks and spun a conspiracy theory about how it's an entire massive movie studio complex. where's the demonstration? this is just a baseless assertion. no wonder no one responded, it's not worth the time or the effort cos you put none in.
@ZestaBackfromburnout14 күн бұрын
@@NoStringsAttachedPrd no. My claim is that the large structure on my community page is the structure TFE used to create their lives from union glacier. Do you think they would give us a close up tour around such a structure? 😂
@chloewright114 күн бұрын
Rusty is so adorable! 🥰
@keithvasquez669513 күн бұрын
A good debunker who cannot only admit he made a mistake, and then go back and figure out what went wrong, then explaining it so succinctly is a debunker I trust and will continue to follow. Even though it's flat earth stuff, which is just silly. Dave is still a delight to watch and learn from. Great job citizen teacher. And by figuring out how he made the mistake, it will probably never happen to him again! Examining your errors is a great way to learn. We always learn from our failures. Sometimes even more then success.
@lookingglassf112 күн бұрын
F - first A - attempt I - in L - learning
@keithvasquez669512 күн бұрын
@@lookingglassf1 nice!
@keithvasquez669512 күн бұрын
Nicely said
@NithinJune14 күн бұрын
2:44 bro your dog looks so done with ts 😂😂😂
@aone905013 күн бұрын
Usually tries to escape unless he holds it lol
@Green_Tea_Coffee14 күн бұрын
That bit about the damascussteel weirdo is really a mic drop moment.
@rakninja14 күн бұрын
there's icing on that cake. check the pinned comment.
@JasonJ105214 күн бұрын
@@rakninja Sadly, I'm not seeing a pinned comment. Am I too late? :(
@Green_Tea_Coffee14 күн бұрын
@JasonJ1052 Sort comments by Newest and it should show up.
@rakninja13 күн бұрын
@@JasonJ1052 aw dang, yes. you are.
@alexdhall14 күн бұрын
10:55: "Time for more pets hooman" - Rusty 😹😻
@TheJohnp7613 күн бұрын
I’m surprised the flerths didn’t pick up on the dog doing a Masonic Handshake at 4:41.
@jonboy295014 күн бұрын
I wonder that the staff working in Antartica must have thought when you told them the reason for the visit.
@rudolfquerstein671014 күн бұрын
Imagine you are like Jeran and apply for a job. In your CV you write that you joined a research expedition to antarctica. That sounds really impressive... but only until someone asks specifics :P
@bigfatbruce14 күн бұрын
@@rudolfquerstein6710 😂
@hansweichselbaum253413 күн бұрын
@@rudolfquerstein6710 To study sunspot activity. Sounds good to me.
@rudolfquerstein671012 күн бұрын
@ Oh if you don't mention flat earth this was a great trip and looks good in any CV.
@mojomusica12 күн бұрын
They did actually laugh at them. When they arrived they asked the ALE staff what time the Sun set, to much hilarity, disbelief and pity.
@thedubwhisperer215712 күн бұрын
What a lovely video - a perfect illustration of the humility of a humble scientist always ready to make corrections and move forward. Well Done Mr. McKeegan. 🤘 Contrast with theists and FEs...
@_NicBP14 күн бұрын
Good work, Dave. Doing the work for the benefit of reality. Shame your efforts will never be respected by those flerf numpties.
@bigfatbruce14 күн бұрын
Maybe not respected but deep down they know the results are true. Every one of them now knows they can go to Antarctica to debunk or witness the 24 hour sun for themselves but they won't waste their money because they know what they'll see.
@bobbabouy853714 күн бұрын
"Centered and cropped all of the photo's" Flerf's slamming heir hands down on the table, "we got em bois"
@ZerzuzeXiiquin14 күн бұрын
Guess that was a spot on video... Ok I will see my way out now.
@jimnaden559414 күн бұрын
Well played.
@derekcoaker657914 күн бұрын
Nah, stick around, everyone loves a good Dad Joke. 😂
@josebarria323314 күн бұрын
I'm glad you have seen the sunrise in Punta Arenas. Sunrises and sunsets in southern Chile are the best
@jimnaden559414 күн бұрын
That was quite the stunning photo.
@Hannes290614 күн бұрын
Fantastic, Dave! The fact, that you made a mistake and are now correcting yourself makes it even more bulletproof. You and the other globers (i. e. normal people) were definitely the best choices for this trip. You did so much good work there, while Witsit was lying under a table.
@timehunter946714 күн бұрын
It’s funny how huge the difference is between when flerfs are criticised vs human beings being criticised. Really interesting video.
@TheM0JEC14 күн бұрын
I’m loving the pictures and video from the trip. Doesn’t matter if folks don’t get it, it’s really cool seeing a place I’ll almost certainly never get to visit. So many angles in such good quality! Pleased you had the X4 cameras there I love mine.
@RM_VFX14 күн бұрын
For the local sun believers, if you bothered to observe the rules of perspective, you'd know that moving objects change size in frame most dramatically when they're closer, not when they're farthest away. So the sun at noon should show an obvious change in angluar size by early afternoon. It shouldn't take until just before sunset to see a sudden change in size. A car zooming away from you will halve in angular size in a second or two, but a car a half a block away will stay near the same angular size for many seconds.
@Elkysium14 күн бұрын
And another igit that doesn't comprehend that the atmosphere acts like one giant lens and is more pronounced the closer you get to the horizon... Also, NO ONE knows what the sun actually is or how it actually works. Google it if you don't believe it...
@Amradar12313 күн бұрын
@Elkysium OK. Opened Google. Typed "what is the Sun" First result: "The Sun is the star at the center of the Solar System. It is a massive, nearly perfect sphere of hot plasma, heated to incandescence by nuclear fusion reactions in its core, radiating the energy from its surface mainly as visible light and infrared radiation with 10% at ultraviolet energies." Not: " No one knows what the sun actualy is or how it works"
@BadDadDodge14 күн бұрын
The flerfs don't account for human error and because of this they shout 'FAKE'. It makes me laugh how Flerfs don't allow the human errors or issues when in reality their whole brain is an error. I bet you are kicking yourself for this mistake, don't worry about it mate we are all human and when we lack sleep were are even worse. you done great work regardless, i hope you enjoyed the trip. Hopefully Will now plans for a greenland trip during the northern summer so we can then ask the flerfs about the 6 months difference. I guess a 24 hour darkness video would be required however they will just say it is a 4 hour nighttime put on a loop unfortunately!!
@cinnamonrollypoly14 күн бұрын
Aww, I think Rusty missed you! Great video as always.
@DragonNexus13 күн бұрын
I think Rusty misses him if he takes an extra 5 minutes in the supermarket.
@cinnamonrollypoly13 күн бұрын
@@DragonNexus Lol, that dog is such an attention w hore
@newbiegamelover476711 күн бұрын
I can never get enough of him begging for pets.
@jonathanmarino796814 күн бұрын
Flatzoid grasping at thin air 😂
@alzdeane14 күн бұрын
...again!
@dther631414 күн бұрын
Fkatzoid ;)
@d.charlespyle14 күн бұрын
Well he's gotta do something when he's not removing 11 frames from video footage.
@michael6954-m8s14 күн бұрын
Blimey you do work hard Dave!
@diogopaiva8514 күн бұрын
I saw a beautiful image today while hiking up a rocky hill that was about 150 meters high. During sunset the clouds were being illuminated from beneath, I immediately took a picture to show my flerfs friends, as it can't ever happen on a flat earth. It really amazes me how people that say that "you need to trust what you can see", can't actually see how silly their arguments are when compared with reality.
@mako88sb14 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, for most of them, it appears to be a bunch of childish arguing instead of having the moral character to admit they are wrong.
@A-12-1-1413 күн бұрын
They'll respond "AAAHHHHAAA!!!!!!! TeH kLaUDS be LiteD form BELOW!!!!!!! MEEN daT sUn be BELOW DE KLAUDS!!!!! IMPOsIbel oN the bal Ert!!!!!!!!"
@diogopaiva8513 күн бұрын
@A-12-1-14 lol
@joeshmoe796712 күн бұрын
@A-12-1-14 That is pretty accurate!! LOL!
@Green_Tea_Coffee12 күн бұрын
That's because flerferism isn't a belief based in fact. It's truly a faith-based one. And frankly, I think it's mostly just a way for people who are extreme outliers to peacock about their unwillingness to believe literally anything that they consider to be mainstream.
@bryans515014 күн бұрын
Welcome home Dave. Well done Sir... we love you man!
@BatteryHooper14 күн бұрын
Any person doubting the validity of Dave’s observations had an opportunity to go and make competing observations… yet, here we are.
@Loki-14 күн бұрын
Damascus Steel has been real quiet since this dropped
@leftpastsaturn6714 күн бұрын
No, he has thrown one of his amusingly ineffectual tantrums now.
@tomaszwota146514 күн бұрын
actually, he just commented almost the exact same thing under this video, lol!
@Saol.Alainn14 күн бұрын
Trying to stop himself from total delamination
@doomdrake12312 күн бұрын
All of you have done awesome work while in Antarctica.
@MegaloTnt14 күн бұрын
11:19 Even if the sunspots are not visible, this is a seriously amazing image
@CelliniCreations14 күн бұрын
hAlpha filters are pretty cool, but prohibitively expensive for many people.
@wild_lee_coyote14 күн бұрын
Dave has done more to dismiss any flat earth argument than flat earth has done to prove it’s still flat. Just a reminder that disproving anything that Dave presents, doesn’t prove a flat earth, you still have to prove the earth is flat on your own. It is impressive the amount of work and care Dave has gone through to make sure any argument flat earthers come up with has a clear answer.
@Raven-626-14 күн бұрын
Rookie mistake, everyone knows that the second you disprove the Round Earth the only logical replacement model is the Velociraptor shaped Earth
@Green_Tea_Coffee14 күн бұрын
The last time I was this early, Witsit and Jeran were still members in good standing of the Flat Earth community!
@BlairNZ788114 күн бұрын
Oh good grief, all the Flerfs think they have the right to debunk these photos without any of them going there themselves, taking the same photos and seeing these sun spots for themselves. No - they just sit in their basements and hope all their sheep followers with give them a superchat. 🙄
@-SaKage13 күн бұрын
No, they have the right to debunk them, that's how science works. If you can prove someone wrong, you are allowed. Just they can't and therefore they just make silly unsupported claims (at best)
@Green_Tea_Coffee12 күн бұрын
None of them will even bother to download and analyze the RAW files, that Dave has made available for anyone who wants to review them. They're happy to watch selectively edited, low-resolution clips from the likes of Dubay.
@shainedupuis264914 күн бұрын
Those "trucks" that transported the luggage from the plane are called snowcats. They're used to groom the snow on ski mountains and they're also used to groom the track for the Antarctic marathon apparently lol
@tomaszwota146514 күн бұрын
they're compacting the snow underneath them pretty damn well. But expect a flat earther screaming bloody murder when you step over groomed snow without leaving much of a dent in it... They are truly a lost cause.
@6yjjk14 күн бұрын
I'm just here for the dog.
@ad-sd-vids533211 күн бұрын
Last April I brought a good camera to misquamicut beach, and I shot block island from 3 feet above the water, then shot it 20 feet above the water, and I could see a little more of the island from higher up, and the wind turbines behind the island were much lower than they should be. There’s no explanation for that if the earth is flat
@artem6411 күн бұрын
Things get lower due to perspective. When you were lower to the ground, the perspective changed. That's the FE answer. You're welcome.
@j.ascension79 күн бұрын
Imagine being invited to see it with your own eyes, punking out, then complaining its fake when it's recorded digitally
@djcie101814 күн бұрын
Intellectual honesty at its best, thank you, sir.
@DrD196714 күн бұрын
Here is definitive PROOF that the earth is (mostly) flat. Approximately 71% of the earth's surface is covered with non-carbonated water. Therefore, the earth is (mostly) flat. Case closed!!!
@ZachNeumann14 күн бұрын
But will it fizz if we shake it?
@callmeconvay797714 күн бұрын
Hmm, but is the molten core of Earth carbonated? If enough of it is, then the Earth isn't flat...
@gacharemasxx802314 күн бұрын
How does the water stay on Earth if the Earth is flat.
@DualDesertEagle14 күн бұрын
🤣😂😂🤣😂 I'm f'in dying!!! Took me a moment to see what u did there but once I did my neighbours must've been wondering what the heck I was lauging about so hard!
@DrD196714 күн бұрын
@@ZachNeumann No, it's flat
@crestavid14 күн бұрын
Good job Dave, keep fighting the fight, there's always gonna be grifters and liars who will question your integrity sadly. Just keep calling them out.
@dco856214 күн бұрын
You do realize that Dave is the one grifting off of FE?? Does he make videos about anything else? 😂
@johnchapman420814 күн бұрын
The sign saying "Danger, cliff!" isn't fighting idiots that wander off the edge, just hoping to reduce the number of idiot pancakes.
@daveg210414 күн бұрын
@@dco8562 At least Daves videos are educational. The only thing you will learn from a flerf video is how to be manipulative and incompetent.
@wclxb14 күн бұрын
@@dco8562 Grifting is making money by being dishonest. I don't think that proving a conspiracy theory wrong with actual evidence would be considered grifting.
@dco856213 күн бұрын
@wclxb And the entire premise that anything to do with the sky proves anything about the alleged convexity of the ground is pretty dishonest.
@GuttersMN13 күн бұрын
Your commitment to this effort as well as your transparency are admirable. Well done sir!
@usmcyounggun687914 күн бұрын
6:32 you can see Austin’s breath while he is sitting in the chair lol.
@tomaszwota146514 күн бұрын
bububububububut my vape gate!
@corey223214 күн бұрын
Doesn't matter. He vaped that one time, therefore they must've been in a studio (while also in Greenland last Summer lol)
@maxeadon202110 күн бұрын
Elephant in the room - sun is moving R to L above and i see it moving L to R in the UK. Here's the kicker for all flerfs ; how can the sun be moving in both directions at the same time when sun spots prove its the same sun ? Irrelevant to whether or not it's a 24 hr day ?
@Danikar9 күн бұрын
I mean, there are so many elephants in the flat earth room, I'm pretty sure the whole movement can be classified as a circus.
@daviamsilva9 күн бұрын
@@Danikar The globe evidences are the elephants and the flat earths are the clowns pretending everything is fine and the elephants are fake
@maxeadon20219 күн бұрын
@@Danikar Found its heavily linked to churches/lack of science education/science theory is not a fact.
@mikaelkaris927313 күн бұрын
Thanks Dave, you r very good at your field. 😊
@HaloSerene14 күн бұрын
Thanks for that, Dave
@JoeBob7956914 күн бұрын
Dave always gets his points across in such an honest and easy to understand way, it's kind of sad that flatearthers still don't understand. Or maybe they just _pretend_ not to understand so that they don't have to admit they were wrong..
@israelSamuel-ur4vq14 күн бұрын
Party for Dave to destroy flat earth
@RashiimAllen14 күн бұрын
World records for most celestial photos captured greatest to least: NASA, EASA, Dave McKeegan, the rest of the world combined.
@Wurtoz964314 күн бұрын
What’s EASA
@daveg210414 күн бұрын
@@Wurtoz9643 European Union Aviation Safety Agency, apparently. They obviously mean ESA.
@PeerAdder14 күн бұрын
@@daveg2104 which, for the initiated, is the European Space Agency.
@dannymirjanovic845314 күн бұрын
Holy shit 12/15 is my birthday! So cool you got this on that day.
@kstricl14 күн бұрын
Flerfer follow-up video: I dreamt up more unhinged theories, so I am removing and dismissing this evidence that didn't go my way. Dave: I missed including some evidence, here's a follow up and all the raw evidence. I really appreciate the raws Dave. I opened up 0005 and cropped it, I'm pretty impressed with your shot. I only have an old 12mp Sony A230 (my primary is a Tamron 28-200; great for tourist shots, not so much for bespoke shots) and I know this is better than I could get. Some of those other submitted photos are absolutely gorgeous though. For anyone curious, the only difference I can see with the raws as I opened them and as shown on the time lapse is that the relative brightness is increased. Will this change any Flerfers minds? Doubt it. But I enjoy the content.
@mwhelan5314 күн бұрын
Oh my God! Keeghan you made a mistake. Suddenly the earth is officially flat, unicorns, Santa, the tooth fairy, leprechauns and the Easter bunny are confirmed real.
@nicksantos4310 күн бұрын
The internet unfortunately rewards contrarianism. These are people that have built entire brands on Flat Earth, they just cant let go!
@kg4tnp13 күн бұрын
Never underestimate the power of intentionally misunderstanding nature to turn a profit.
@Bobswife-v3n13 күн бұрын
That’s the globe defenders in action
@Amradar12313 күн бұрын
@@Bobswife-v3n Poor Bob 😢
@joecantdance49413 күн бұрын
@@Bobswife-v3n Poor Bob. Desperation really suits you
@leftpastsaturn6713 күн бұрын
@@Bobswife-v3n Poor Damascus Steel. You really are very easily upset and fragile.
@leftpastsaturn6713 күн бұрын
...and the most ironic comment so far award goes to DamascusSteel / TJ-07f / Bobswife / CharlieTuna / JohnThomsontheGreat (same person)... "Jesus is being annoying all you can do"
@Alysm-Aviation13 күн бұрын
Love it when he puts up his copy pastes and forgets to swap accounts.
@leftpastsaturn6713 күн бұрын
@@Alysm-Aviation He's even used three of them simultaneously, agreeing with himself, replying to his own comment. Mad as a bottle of crisps.
@Alysm-Aviation13 күн бұрын
@leftpastsaturn67 because he knows that even other flerfs don't want anything to do with him.
@leftpastsaturn6713 күн бұрын
@@Alysm-Aviation I'd pity him if he wasn't so proud to be that ignorant and pointless.
@PhantasmTheNoble14 күн бұрын
Honestly, I just love and appreciate cooperation of so many people around the globe
@jpablo6814 күн бұрын
Great video Dave, I want to photograph the sun with a solar filter in the future, and also the moon, I just need the tripod and the solar filter. BTW it's funny how you can provide the raw files from the camera and have flat earthers claim that the pictures are "manipulated" when they can easily download the files and check for themselves, but I guess the camera industry is in the conspiracy to always show the sun at the same size in the files.
@marambula14 күн бұрын
FlatHeads think satan is around every corner.
@Sableagle13 күн бұрын
I got an A4 sheet of solar filter material and made my own with an old cereal box, scissors and duck tape.
@inothome9 күн бұрын
First thing I noticed when I saw the moon the fist time from Antarctica, I said, wait, it looks upside down! lol Duh.... uhh.... yeah, it will be. But wasn't expecting that and no one else seemed to notice. Spent two winters there no Sun for months, awesome!
@NOPEGENX13 күн бұрын
Great update and detailed explanations. Flerfs are grasping to hold on to their flat earth as their assumptions disappear and the world curves beneath them.
@andyjones712114 күн бұрын
It must be so frustrating trying not to make any little mistakes or forget anything, knowing that flerfs will be looking for any reason to call it fake. The whole idea of sending Jeran and Witsit was for credibility, right? These people are so mentally impaired.
@andyjones712114 күн бұрын
I mean, you took a picture of you taking a picture of your camera that was taking the picture! Time stamped, raw files, 360 video, drones, video, etc, and they're STILL calling it fake, CGI, in a studio, etc. If this doesn't prove a globe, then it absolutely proves there's literally NO evidence they'll accept and they don't care about the truth.
@Wurtoz964314 күн бұрын
If you don’t get it perfect it’s fake, if you get it perfect it’s too perfect and therefore fake.
@ryantennyson756214 күн бұрын
Doubt flat earthers have a realistic understanding of the word honesty.
@SteveLaw-UK14 күн бұрын
Add it to the list of things they don't understand.
@DragonNexus13 күн бұрын
Most of them sound like they have never left their home towns.
@dannolte538414 күн бұрын
It's always a pleasure for me when you include your puppy
@cwverburg10 күн бұрын
Can we please stop paying attention to flatearthers and enjoy living on our real earth. Greetings from the top of the globe New Zealand 😉🇳🇿
@clintsstuff95914 күн бұрын
Now that globers have shown all this evidence of a globe earth, how about we get some photos and proof of a flat earth. Flatties its your turn now. No cartoons allowed.😂
@AECRADIO113 күн бұрын
Dave has PROVEN he is TOP NOTCH!
@Bobswife-v3n12 күн бұрын
He’s a mush mouth drunken hillbilly
@leftpastsaturn679 күн бұрын
@@Bobswife-v3n Oh, the amusing irony. You sad little stain.
@daveeckblad14 күн бұрын
Look at the astronomy program PIPP which does all this planetary alignment and cropping for you. Very easy to then demonstrate what settings you're using in that program to shut up the flatties.