David Crowder, Faith Leaders Share Experiences to Help Church Face the Deconstruction Movement

As faith deconstruction grows among believers in the church, David Crowder and other faith leaders shared their experience and understanding of the movement, so the church can learn how to approach this controversial topic.
Some on the world stage have praised deconstruction as being an awakening. Others warn against the practice, calling it "dangerous," and going against God's Word.
Yet, David Crowder told CBN News he doesn't see anything controversial about the topic. "Because if it's true, it's true," Crowder said. "There's no threat to examining what beliefs you've been handed. If they hold up, they hold up."
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[@stephengould2232]

To assume that there is no ABSOLUTE TRUTH, is to assume that Jesus Christ is not real, for Jesus Christ declared that He is the TRUTH.

[@budsodalsky]

Oh, so pensive

[@mariobethell3731]

With so many different religions all believing by faith in a God or Gods that they all think is/are real, yet teaching different doctrines at the same time, the question then begs, "What can anybody not believe by faith, and does this belief make anything true". This, l'd really love to know. In the absence of evidence truth is uncertain. Therefore, judgement or any decision making must be suspended. For this is the most honest thing a person can ever do. Anything more than this is merely presumptuous speculations that the religious world call faith. No wonder knowledge is the greatest enermy of faith and any religion!

[@saustindavis]

What you said basically means nothing. The author of Harry Potter stating in the book, "This is a true story," does not make it true, just like the Bible making the claim that it is true is meaningless. Using a thing to describe or prove itself is garbage logic.

[@DanLee8884]

It's not about believing or not believing in absolute truth. Its about who can claim they have it. The conundrum is if u truly believe what the Bible says about humanity, u can't possibly believe we are capable of having absolutely truth. If a human being has absolute truth, what need is there for God? Just worship that person or ideal. Some Christians are so set to defend their faith and the Bible, they ignore the teaching of said Bible. Its sad. Good on David Crowder!

[@creationandcompostteachthe485]

As a science educator and college professor, I completely understand the need for questioning one’s beliefs and avoiding unnecessary bias when constructing one’s own argument. It’s crucial to understanding the basis for scientific inquiry and general problem solving. The problem with deconstructing one’s faith and following the masses of just “loving people like Jesus” is that often the accountability of local assemblies (churches) and the individual believers. They appear to become blended in these massive church settings with outlandish Christian entertainment and sneaker preachers to spread “love” while being confused as a cleaner of secular media. I agree with the above comment, “Jesus the same yesterday, today, and forever” (Hebrews 13:8). Yes, He is love. Yes, He is forgiveness. Yes, He is mercy. But, we cannot water down the Gospel for record sales, public appearance and perception. If we’re aiming to just avoid offending people, we might not be worshiping the same Jesus.

[@cer2299]

So many people seeking a true relationship with God leave fake faithfilled churches to spend time with God. Sometimes it is really the people we are taking a break from, not God. We are ready to be healthy in God. We are ready to feel the real power of God. Under the control of religion many people do not thrive. Sometimes stepping away from religion is the healthiest thing we can do for our spirit.

[@kathyweaver6840]

You must be Born Again. I was 48 years old before I truly get born again.

[@masterjose8483]

How do I truly be born again? I need to know

[@mariobethell3731]

With so many different religions all believing by faith in a God or Gods that they all think is/are real, yet teaching different doctrines at the same time, the question then begs, "What can anybody not believe by faith, and does this belief make anything true". This, l'd really love to know. In the absence of evidence truth is uncertain. Therefore, judgement or any decision making must be suspended. For this is the most honest thing a person can ever do. Anything more than this is merely presumptuous speculations that the religious world call faith. No wonder knowledge is the greatest enermy of faith and any religion!

[@curtishawkins8052]

Amen! I also went through a period of deconstructing my faith. Going back to the beginning, questioning everything and also praying while asking the Spirit to guide me. Yes, my faith is different. Yes, I abandoned certain things I used to believe. Yes, my relationship to the church is different. HOWEVER, my faith in Jesus is stronger now then it was before. My faith is more based on Jesus and the experience of God then is was before and I feel so much more confident in my faith than I ever have. Maybe it is because the beginning of my faith was heavily Jesuit influenced. There is an absolute truth and deconstruction helped me find it... in Christ.

[@ClipSwitchFlashlights]

Not sure if it was just the cutting, but the Gospel is NOT simply "love your neighbor as yourself". The gospel is the good news about the person and work of Jesus Christ. It results in good works such as loving your neighbor as yourself.

[@stluke4655]

It’s also about how we are deceitfully wicked. And are not worthy of salvation.

[@PurpleCapybara]

Exactly. Loving your neighbor as yourself is the second greatest commandment and guess what the greatest commandment is?? Loving the Lord our God with all our heart, soul, and mind!!

[@McCammon728]

They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us. (1 John 2:19, ESV)

[@mcgruff7355]

Amen

[@argonaught5666]

Always gotta be a self righteous condenmer in the crowd.

[@patrickian8843]

@@argonaught5666 His statement is not self righteous in the slightest. However, you sound like someone who has absolutely no idea what it is to be a follower of Christ Jesus. You sound like someone who believes in the Crowleyan doctrine of “Do what thou whilst”.

[@susanrarchbell73]

My relationship with the Lord is a personal one! The only truth is Jesus Christ, God the Father, and the Holy Spirit! The Living Word is forever! Read the Bible everyday and spend time with God!

[@pkl8811]

Christ founded the Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church.

[@cer2299]

We need God not man formed religion.

[@patrickian8843]

@@pkl8811 🤣What!?!

[@argonaught5666]

One thing is for sure. You can read 1000 comment sections and you will never run out of experts.

[@stephenburns429]

yeah if everyone would just hush and listen to that "dean of divinity" they rolled out. because the actual ~expert~ has spoken.

[@Rose-Rae]

Don't follow musicians, men etc. who are unstable, unpredictable and change with time, seasons and status. Follow the Messiah. His Word does not change. He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. He is The Way, The Truth and The Life.

[@StrongBodyandMind33]

Who is the way again? Oh right, I AM

[@justin10292000]

@@StrongBodyandMind33 If by that you mean The Great I AM, aka YHWH, Jehovah, yes, truth.

[@GinaU832]

Amen. Jesus is all I need and want.

[@lisaproctor7276]

Amen Thank you! This helped me

[@rtoadietodd]

I lost my faith when I read the Bible from beginning to end 3 times. I wanted to believe but I couldn’t. The amount of contradictions, the murder of innocents . I was an evangelical , a gospel singer , a believer . But my research provided truths that were not in line with what I had been taught. It was very hard to walk away .

[@CP-012]

How about living in humility and respecting Proverbs 3:5 “ lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him”

[@aimeeanderson8538]

I've been learning that like Corrie ten boom has said it is all about surrendering to his great love for us. And opening our hearts to receive from jesus. He loves us so completely, that unconditional love that we as humans beings are crying out for. Love you david, keep smiling. Love and kisses

[@Redx3257]

If what we believe is true. Then there is nothing wrong with researching and asking questions right? Or does our belief only hold up if we don’t ask questions?

[@Thewanderer_378]

What's really happening is people are trying to figure out the mind of God. ❣️

[@ianbuick8946]

and try to justify whatever sin they're holding on to with -logic and reason- .

[@clebersongalvao6331]

One thing we should not forget is that for God it's more important to obey Him than questioning Him. Yes it is important questioning everything, although to obey Jesus is way more important because the obedience will lead us to God's heart and his blessings. Plus God not necessary has to answer all ours questions, doubts and frustrations. We need to obey and to trust in Him. Period!God bless you!

[@OldManDenton]

It's deconstruction from the "church" establishment. Not Faith, God or Jesus. It's not claiming that Truth is "relative" but rather claiming Truth to be Truer than what's taught in just about any given "church" USA. If the Truth it to be known, then let it be known. Let the child come. There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking questions (as many as the ears can here!) Especially when we are to count the cost as Jesus saids we should do. We don't "go to church". We are the church. Where ever we go, there the church will be. All things True will remain 💯 God-bless the deconstruction! It's no different than pruning or refining. Call it what you want, but let your yes be yes and your no be no as Jesus also has instructed. The Truth shall set you free. Not what any given "church" or pastor etc. says is true but the simple Truth, God's Truth. Everything from 4 quarters make a dollar to Jesus is the son of God.

[@jennifermcgeady1206]

The gospel is not loving your neighbor as yourself as Crowder states. This is works. The gospel is repenting of your sin and placing your faith in Jesus for the forgiveness of your sin so that you are saved from eternal condemnation. Clearly this guy is a progressive "Christian" who believes Jesus came to teach us simply to love others well. This is not a saving faith that will keep you from God's judgement. You must REPENT of you sin and place your faith in the Savior.

[@CyborgNinja7]

It's possible he thinks that, though we only got a few sentences from him so I wouldn't jump to conclusions yet.

[@CyclingM1867]

I'd never heard of this whole Deconstructing Faith thing before seeing the title of this video, but I did this when I was 19, back in 1989. I'd been a Christian since I was 5 and baptised by immersion when I was 12. I was away at Bible college when the majority of my own faith deconstruction happened, although it started the year before in my last year of high school. With me, I never actually doubted God or His Word. Rather, I was questioning WHY I was a Christian. Was I a Christian because it was something that was expected of me, or had it really been my own choice? Well, I came to the conclusion - after much prayer and reading of the Bible and meeting with some friends and praying and talking with them - that I really and truly was a Christian because of my own choice. I did come to a crossroads, knowing that I would either continue to follow Jesus with renewed devotion, or I would walk away. Well, in the end, walking away was just not an option for me. So I recommitted my life to the Lord. This time was absolutely a necessary part of my life, something that I needed to go through, and I don't regret it at all.

[@CyborgNinja7]

Amen, Gordon! We need a personal relationship with God to truly understand this world.

[@nelsonpally]

Reconstruction of my christain life rescued me. I was left the christain faith long time ago but I thank God he never gave up on me. Blessed be the Name of the Lord.

[@aimeeanderson8538]

The bible says God is love, we need to accept and receive it. I love you david

[@alexandermathews3601]

Many Pastors and Christians are becoming Muslims at an alarming rate, this all 100% proves the WORDS of JESUS that "MANY" will fall away from their faith in Last days. It all MUST HAPPEN. Only a very very few will last till the end.

[@tonyaberney156]

There will be a great falling away

[@frankmoreno7216]

I guess this “ Christian” hasn’t read 👉🏼👉🏼 1 Corinthians 11:14 👈🏼 Nowadays anybody calls themselves a Christian. 😂😂

[@carolynmckinnon9185]

@@frankmoreno7216 I dont know where you live but many call themselves Christian's in our country.

[@frankmoreno7216]

@@carolynmckinnon9185 Oh,I’m from “ your “ country too but I try to keep it real. 😂 Did u read the verse & then c what I was talking about?? Long hair Christian men?? Divorced men & women? Drunks? 👉🏼 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 👈🏼 This 👆🏼 kind of people call themselves Christians. But the Holy Book says “ and such were ( past ) some of you.

[@carolynmckinnon9185]

@@frankmoreno7216 But I am washed in the blood of Jesus. And made my commitment to Him only. And Frank it says "Choose you this day who you will serve" That was my day of reckoning! I live to see His face and hear His voice. Hang on to the scriptures that keep you focused. Otherwise you could get caught up with verses that deter you from Jesus. And we are in the last days and are supposed to lift up one another.🙏❤🕊🎺🎶

[@frankmoreno7216]

@@carolynmckinnon9185 Good for you but u can’t change Scripture. If ur born again,ur supposed to steer away from sin. And Commandments are still Commandments under grace! U say ur washed?? How r u baptized?? And r u really following his steps? 👉🏼 1 Peter 3:12

[@budsodalsky]

I think it's simple - he gave us his word - for these reasons - the moment these people start talking about their feelings, love this, love that, what is the meaning of [], personal this, I dont feel that, they are letting other things creep in and confuse them. God not only wants RELATIONSHIP - HE WANTS OBEDIENCE - Reading his word straightens all this "feelings" stuff out - OBEDIENCE is left out of the sermons of 90% of American Churches - these days - so your reading his word is all most have to lean on! I dont agree to ask your pastor - alot of these modern churches dont teach anything else but "relationship"

[@Jwet1100]

It's not a movement it's simply a reality we must face as humans. People have serious legitimate reasons to doubt. Stop saying it's otherwise.

[@mcgruff7355]

Keep deceiving you will only help separate the wheat from the Chaff. Doing actual believers a favor .

[@Jwet1100]

@@mcgruff7355 I'm merely defending the people you say are blatantly deceiving when they are in reality genuinely questioning a faith with questionable doctrine. It's this holier than thou attitude from people like you which make us all doubt in the first place.

[@mcgruff7355]

@2ND NATURE not holier than thou at all if you knew me you would know how humble I am. But I do see what's really behind this and it's too make God inclusive to make him non binary too change God's commands because we want to please secular culture or to just bend the law to please the world and allow for flesh desires to be allowed by applying some Overton window too the Bible. Give me three things you question about our faith and I guarantee it will always go back to LGBT or race relations. I'm of Mexican descent (dark skinned meso American not light skinned spanish)so let me remove that racist strawman before you go there. But my point is social Marxism has infiltrated Christianity under the guise of deconstruction.

[@michellepeterson6320]

@@mcgruff7355 absolutely - It *appears* McCrae has landed on a Critical theology not true Christianity.

[@quantumchem3774]

Secularists do not own the word 'deconstruct'. You should test doctrines to see if they meet the biblical standard (discernment, judge).... Catholics and other church's that rely on a dominant central power structure have issues with this idea, as it removes the priests/popes authority.

[@stluke4655]

Stop the catholic slander when you probably don’t even understand Catholicism (I’m not even Catholic)

[@michellepeterson6320]

Testing teaching and doctrines is not deconstruction. Two different things

[@righteousnessofgodinchrist5555]

💝💝💝AMEN...THANK YOU! JESUS CHRIST IS LORD!

[@gojohnnygo3209]

The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 1Tim4:1 or is it - We know that all things work together for good for those who love God, to those who are called according to his purpose. Rom8:28 Examine yourselves to see which verse applies to you.

[@signyourdeedrealty-jennife4596]

Faith in that scripture means faith in Jesus Christ not faith in the church because church is operated by men therefore it’s able to be manipulative and people in the church do things that are sinful and hurtful and so leaving the church doesn’t mean you lost faith in Jesus and it doesn’t mean the God will abandon you

[@pamelaeason1982]

David Crowder forgot the first and greatest commandment...Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, mind and strength...then the second commandment is to love your neighbor as yourself. Interesting that he conveniently forgot God Almighty.

[@amkelly8540]

Reading the Word everyday

[@callawaycass5148]

Is it not troubling that David Crowder said that loving others as you love yourself is the gospel? Uh oh. That's legalism. The gospel is repentance for the forgiveness of sin; it has the fruit of works in one's life, but doing the works is not the gospel.

[@makeitcount179]

Truth is absolute. Our grasp of it has a contingency factor but a good hermeneutic and continuing study under the tutelage of the Holy Spirit can help us discover the Objective deep truths of God. I reject deconstruction. I accept my responsibility to study to show myself approved unto God.

[@Forgiven.Man.of.GOD.]

AMEN! 💯🙌🏼🔥

[@dansaunders6761]

Deconstructionism == know what you believe and why you believe it. No believer is in danger of losing their faith.

[@bartwfielder]

I KNEW IT! I am not suprised you could see the question of faith in his music.

[@saulgoo2334]

Always knew Crowder and Lecrae were the genuine article. This was a great segment.

[@mcgruff7355]

They are not ,they flirting with social Marxism . They want to deliver you too a one world religion

[@IgonDrakeWarrior]

Crowder?

[@dillon3974]

David Crowder’s songs are not worship music. It is contemporary Christian music which is basically secular music that has God’s name in there but does not fully focus on Him.

[@kayronwalker5635]

psalms 24. ....this is the generation that seek Him...;lift up your heads ole gates and be lifted up everlasting doors. and the King of Glory shall come in. ....this is the generation of Jacob. that wrestled with God. we are all wrestling with God. We shall be blessed with the subduing of the Holy Spirit!

[@mw4340]

People must find the True Gospel

[@tonyaberney156]

This isnt for me..you are right about people need to find the truth,I thank the good Lord for Discernment.

[@viviandasilva8520]

Crowder’s concert was the most Christian and not just a worshipper.. He also preaches the gospel by singing like an angel!!

[@Eunacis]

I believe communal Bible study and critical reading would do the church some good. And then we can lean upon each other to find consensus on the issues that are cutting the body of Christ to pieces.

[@abigailrandall7520]

Or maybe feeding the poor, caring for the orphan and the foreigner? Maybe abandoning the pursuit of wealth and seeking justice for the under privileged? Maybe casting out sexual deviants such as the pedophiles and sexual assaulters? Maybe sitting and weeping with those who weep? Maybe its offering reconciliation for the harm the global church has caused?

[@rebeccag6759]

There’s a big difference in tearing down false beliefs and “deconstructing”. I’m not convinced it’s sound practice or doctrine unfortunately.

[@patrickian8843]

It’s definitely dangerous and should be avoided.

[@Tweeza57]

Without Jesus we can do nothing John 15:5 NASBS [5] I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing.

[@Kushmeiser003]

This is good, woe to these modern day Pharisees and scribes. We’re in the new age of Christianity, spiritually following Jesus. I used to be a hateful Bible thumper, now I’m more at ease and am kinder to others.

[@lesparks126]

One of the Hebrew definitions of Israel is to wrestle with God. It is ok to ask questions, even Thomas did, but hold that Jesus is the truth.

[@claudiasmith5880]

Deconstructing your faith is another way of saying I want to willfully sin with no repercussions.

[@mariobethell3731]

With so many different religions all believing by faith in a God or Gods that they all think is/are real, yet teaching different doctrines at the same time, the question then begs, "What can anybody not believe by faith, and does this belief make anything true". This, l'd really love to know. In the absence of evidence truth is uncertain. Therefore, judgement or any decision making must be suspended. For this is the most honest thing a person can ever do. Anything more than this is merely presumptuous speculations that the religious world call faith. No wonder knowledge is the greatest enermy of faith and any religion!

[@BackToTheCovenant]

Great video on the dangerous teaching and philosophical approach to questioning things aka deconstructing your faith.

[@CourtneyNielsen]

Around here it seems there’s a huge number of people who hate themselves, so following an orphaned statement of love your neighbor as yourself somewhat explains why there’s so much anger and hate out in the open.

[@rozesarered54]

Remember the gospel. The gospel is the foundation of our faith. “Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you-unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures,” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15‬:‭31-‭4‬ ‭ESV‬‬ “because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭10‬:‭9‬ ‭ESV‬‬

[@patrickian8843]

Amen

[@rogermetzger7335]

There are several ways to define the word, “Christian”. A follower of Jesus. A person who believes Jesus is divine (worthy of our worship). A person who has made a profession of faith in Jesus. A person who seems to exemplify the traits of character that Jesus did. A person who is learning to trust the Lord. When people try to compile statistics with regard to how many Christians there are in the world, most or all of the statistics reflect the numbers of people who are “adherents” of religious organizations. Most people (at least in the United States) think faith is believing something for which there is insufficient evidence - or none. Another way to think of faith, however, is to define it as the evidence of things not seen - evidence of things we can’t observe with our natural senses and don't know how to measure with scientific instruments. Humans gather more and more evidence as we mature. We gather evidence from the natural world and, in many cases, we gather evidence from what we read. The more we read - or/and study the natural world - the greater the probability that our concept of the universe and the place of humans in the universe will change. Take, for example, the observant Hebrew who memorizes significant portions of the Hebrew Bible as a child and as a teenager, learns how those scriptures have been interpreted by Hebrew sages for millennia but doesn’t read the Gospels or the Epistles until adulthood. One such person might just read the later writings and dismiss them as irrelevant to Hebrews. Another such person might perceive a profound connection between the Hebrew Bible and the later Greek additions to it. Or let’s take the example of someone who is considered a Christian and hears a passage from the Psalms, a passage from the Gospels and a passage from the Epistles every week for several decades. Maybe that person has even been told that the Hebrew Bible is irrelevant for Christians. But then that person discovers a profound connection between those passages and the content of the Hebrew Bible. If those people’s worldviews change because of exposure to additional sources of material that is considered “inspired”, that can be considered as “deconstructing faith”. But faith in what? Faith in what he was taught by Hebrew rabbis or by Christian clergy? When I was a boy, my dad repeatedly urged me, “Read for yourself, study for yourself and think for yourself.” He gave me that advice after he had been doing that for twenty years. The result, for him, was that his understanding of Christianity was fundamentally different from that of his grandparents. Mine is similar to my dad’s understanding but if true faith accumulates evidence all along a faith journey, some concepts will evolve or, at the very least, the way a person describes those concepts is likely to change. I entirely reject the idea that such changes in conceptualizing the universe and our place in it should be described as indicating that “he was never really a believer in the first palace.” Reading the Bible from my youth more as Hebrews read it than as most Christians do means that my concepts differ from some basic ostensibly Christian assumptions - including assumptions of what or where or when “hell” is. To say so (as I’m doing here) is to ensure that many Christians will call me heretical but that’s OK. I’d rather be true to how I understand the Bible than to adopt doctrines that make no sense to me. If anyone is interested, I can also address the question of what the majority of professed Christians think is meant by the words, “saved”, and, “salvation”.

[@David-os2fb]

What I often see is people coming to the conclusion that there is (or may be) no absolute truth because they misunderstand the implications of the uncertainly and doubt resulting from competing truth claims.

[@chrislowth]

Becker says deconstruction has two assumptions behind it. 1: there is no absolute truth and 2: context trumps truth. I disagree. Deconstruction is about finding the actual truth by stripping away the baggage that power structures and fear have built on its foundation. It's somewhat like archaeology - digging in the dirt to find the gold. What today's evangelical context shows so clearly is that what we now call "Christianity" is simply not worthy of it's founder and his way. That doesn't mean there is no absolute truth, but rather that it has got buried. Probably under a pile of dirty power plays, politics, tribalism, fear and more. I'm a Christian, but to be honest I'm embarrassed by what that label has come to mean - and I (and others like me) want to follow a path that more closely matches the original intent.

[@theroyalone5765]

No, the root of the “Deconstructionist” new age belief is the spirit of rebellion, instead the deconstructionists want to justify their rebellion by using the church as their reason to rebel against the WORD OF GOD (the Bible), deconstruction is just a part of the “Great falling Away,” that was prophesied in the New Testament 2 Thessalonians 2:3

[@mariobethell3731]

With so many different religions all believing by faith in a God or Gods that they all think is/are real, yet teaching different doctrines at the same time, the question then begs, "What can anybody not believe by faith, and does this belief make anything true". This, l'd really love to know. In the absence of evidence truth is uncertain. Therefore, judgement or any decision making must be suspended. For this is the most honest thing a person can ever do. Anything more than this is merely presumptuous speculations that the religious world call faith. No wonder knowledge is the greatest enermy of faith and any religion!

[@jean-pierreferreira3546]

GOD always speaks absolute truth! So the Bible is either absolute or obsolete! Don't be tolerant, its devillish! Bless you all with the goodness of GOD

[@Godsglory777]

There's nothing wrong with wrestling with God, Jacob did it! If your born again God will show you the Truth.

[@ClansmanK]

'For the time will come when they will no longer endure sound doctrine.....

[@eugenedenbrook322]

Amen, Gordon! A quote from Job, which touches me deeply

[@dawnc5797]

As someone who grew up in a legalistic church, left when I turned 17, and didn't know Jesus until I turned 39, I can understand what some of these folks are saying. Example: You can't "inherit" your parents' faith/religion and think it is a real relationship with Jesus. If He doesn't reveal Himself to you and you don't turn to Him and surrender, you're not a saved Christian. Period. So a person in that situation may need to prayerfully consider what their belief is apart from their parents. I spent two decades living in the world not caring a thing about church, faith, God, Jesus, etc., though I did believe in God and respected my parents for their beliefs. I had no true understanding of any of it. I guess for me those two decades were my deconstruction period where everything I heard and learned growing up was cleansed from my heart and mind so when Jesus did get my attention I was able to accept Him without all the legalistic baggage. I certainly don't condone anyone just up and leaving their church like I did. That was God's plan for ME. American Christianity has been soiled by the prosperity gospel, politics, commercialization, culture wars, and a host of other issues that have no place in the church. If I was a saved Christian and for some reason my influence was from one of these things I would likely need to "deconstruct" or separate myself from those influences in order to have an actual personal relationship with Jesus again. As far as truth goes; it is a fact that our experiences in life shape what we believe to be true about nearly everything, but that has nothing to do with the truth of Jesus. The Old Testament and all of its commandments and rules were true for that time. Only the ones repeated in the New Testament are true for us today. Example; the mixing of materials to wear as clothing and the sacrifice of animals for our sins are no longer what we follow or believe, but sexual immorality is still a no-go. Regardless of what we believe to be true based on our life experiences, JESUS IS THE TRUTH. His life, death and resurrection and the purpose for it all is the truth. People need to stop looking at things from their perspective (get their eyes off themselves) and start looking at everything through the truth of the bible (keep their eyes on Jesus). My sister asked me how I could go back to the church we grew up in after everything that happened with the people there. I told her legalism is no longer an issue (alot changes in 22 years), that's where God led me to be, and if our eyes are on the people and not on Jesus we're looking at the wrong thing.

[@lorettah2493]

I truly believe that if you have to be convinced that Gods word is true, then you will deconstruct. Because You have to be like a child when you come to Christ. If you never did that, then you will deconstruct. Either you believe God's word is true or you don't. Jesus is the way the truth and the life. Period. "Faith is the substance of things hope for and the evidence of things not seen."

[@ab3585]

does deconstruction threaten corporate churches?

[@Brutuscomedy]

would be interesting to hear a respectful dialogue between David and John Cooper Get another prof to chime in. Why just one (conservative) guy? How 'bout Phil Clayton or Elaine Pagels?

[@DrJamesArthurWhiteII]

Its Apostasy plain and simple. It is the great falling away. Also, I have doubts any of these people deconstructing had any faith anyway. Seriously, they are just tares leaving.

[@quantumchem3774]

No. Secularists do not own the word 'deconstruct' (discern, refined, foundation...).

[@DrJamesArthurWhiteII]

@@quantumchem3774 the people pushing this are mostly fake Christians. They are not or have ever been really believers. They want a Marxist Christianity that accepts abortion and homosexuality plus other anti Biblical stances. So, its demonic those behind it and more deception!

[@makeitcount179]

"What is truth?" Pontius Pilate asked. Jesus was standing right in front of him. John 9:39 "For judgment i came into this world, that those who do not see may see and that those who see may become blind." " this man delivered up by the predetermined plan of God..." Peter said in Acts 2:23

[@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr]

My faith must have been extremely weak because I watched one girl's videos and I was like, whelp... I think this ride is over.

[@susannaseay4799]

It's important to examine why we believe the Bible because we can't defend something we don't understand.

[@fndrr42]

“There is no ultimate truth” is a “perspective” and how would that be free from the same problems you set out to address. It’s certainly possible to “question foundational Truth” but the answer is either yes or no. To say “Yes from the perspective that their is no ultimate truth” is what we call a logical contradiction and is not possible. Just as you can’t be an unmarried bachelor.

[@appropriatelyinappropriate5296]

And this explains Why I haven't been able to get to another concert! Jesus Christ is King!

[@therealjamiesmith9576]

Deconstructing for me is about breaking about free from the organized religion within church culture today and intentionally pursuing Jesus wholeheartedly for the first time. Everyone who says deconstructing is about turning away from the faith is exactly what people deconstructing are trying to get away from.

[@appropriatelyinappropriate5296]

I disagree with making this an "ism"... But the practice of leaving "religion", questioning your favored denominations is Exactly what the Lord, the author and finisher of our faith, did With me when I was fully baptized with water And with fire! But He led me, hands on Led Me around the proverbial mountain one last time! Teaching me and moving me physically until I was ready for His chosen teacher/preacher. Now scripture is Branded into me! Burned! Never faltering, and He Does show His face! And we can all Believe He is God! Edit for clarity, my teacher is focused on discipleship and the Great Commission. I'm all-in.

[@budsodalsky]

This crowder guy just proves that the message of these "rock and roll" musicians and these "modern" "Christians" throwing out ANY old Christian things (hymns, respect of elders, dressing nicely) MAY just be -- MAY just be -- the preachers that are mentioned in the bible as teachers of the "itching ears" 2 TIM 4:3 "just sayin..." The results are all around us..

[@stephenburns429]

oh my gosh! they brought out the "dean of divinity"! i guess that'll settle everything...

[@jtiner72]

Some segments just create more confusion. Wrestling and deconstruction can mean the same thing. It can actually start from a place of knowing there is truth, and recognizing that there is a lot of non true stuff passed down in the traditions we were raised in. Matt Chandler is right, but he doesn’t seem to realize how much bad tradition is thrown at those who have truly experienced and embraced the grace of Jesus (his work done for us).

[@luketwelvefour]

Just like in building construction/deconstruction there are many levels of deconstruction. One can remodel a room...all the way to ripping out the foundation. They want to take the most destructive of the 'deconstruction' and tell you 'don't use that term because we'll lump you in with them' instead of simply recognizing there ARE many levels to it. Frankly it is a typical word game that they love to play, which is one of the MANY reasons I AM deconstructing and, NO, I am not going to find a different word just because it scares you and challenges your authority.

[@zapatabrothers6023]

Zapata Brothers 1 second ago You don’t even have to feel like you should find another word for your deconstruction. In God’s Word, Jesus tells us “Come to me all who weary and heavy burdened and I will give you rest. Cast your yoke upon me, for my woke is easy and my burden is light.”Matthew 11:28 As someone who recently went through a period of deconstruction and depression, I can firmly tell you that God is good and that he loves you. Even in the moments where I “doubted,” God was ALWAYS there to comfort me and deliver me from my anxieties. Psalms 94:19. Many times, the best thing we can do is ask the Lord to help us in our unbelief and find a community of Believers who will there to uplift you. A song that I would recommend checking out is Lecrae’s Deconstruction, it’s a powerful song that highlights what many believers go through in times of disbelief. God bless man, keep staying strong brother. Psalms 23

[@luketwelvefour]

@@zapatabrothers6023 Thanks buddy, appreciate the encouragement

[@mcgruff7355]

No you are Decieving ,fixed it

[@scwienert]

No one on KZbin is scared of your “deconstruction”.

[@rogervincent2092]

God saves us, not de-constructionism

[@michellepeterson6320]

Wrestling with faith is not the same as deconstruction.

[@StevenWaling]

Deconstruction does not say there is no absolute truth; just that we cannot know it completely because we are limited in our own understanding. We live in and out of a culture. Language itself is culturally conditioned. We grasp at truth but never quite hold all of it.

[@CyborgNinja7]

Christ makes Himself known and manifest to all those He saves. Through Him, we can know the Father.

[@simpleservant1217]

"Just that we cannot know it completely". Do you know that to be completely true?

[@StevenWaling]

@@simpleservant1217 I bet that sounded really clever after your 3rd doobie didn't it?

[@jeremyhinken3365]

@@StevenWaling I'm currently holding all of His truth in my Bible. How can you be absolutely certain the bits about salvation are true? What is the experience of salvation?

[@docbrown7513]

In secular philosophy.... but in Biblical theology it just means that there are some fundamentals, and the rest we can talk about. For example, pre trib rapture is not supported biblically yet most people just accept it because that is what they were taught.

[@roycantrell-rl9mk]

Get them to come to him his my understanding. There he alone can bring change he is the water of life and the bread. . he alone knows what is in the heart of man . He alone can bring the seed to maturity and produce fruits. Look not at the mote in your brother's eyes. When and where were you when you found him and where did that bring you to this day.? All things god can bring together for his purpose. Not just one point of veiw of man. The children today need him more than ever. Music can bring change too. Let them come to him is the points. He will tear down and rebuild he has that power 😊 i know the Potter 😁

[@davidbrandenburg8955]

I think I can only feel and understand and imagine so far because I’m human man and can’t even begin or start to understand the why or how of God so I ask God why what and where all the time and He shows me in His word and with other people in my path even passerby’s I have no idea what terms are popular I read my Bible and ask Jesus Christ to explain clarify and re read over over again and I may never understand why but my Father sees me and loves me and I love Him so much I’m broken filthy dirty and undeserving and should have been killed for my sin but God says No I love you I want you I will keep from harm and I did nothing to earn it He loves me because He loves

[@Godsglory777]

If your born again your born again. There's no such thing as deconstruction, because how can you deconstruct that which you never constructed in the first place. God saves and God is able to keep His own. Faith deconstructionism is simply realizing you were never in the faith to begin with. 1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.

[@seanconway9957]

And yet the Bible itself says that there were ‘more noble’ among the unbelievers, the Bereans, because they studied and learned about that which they would ultimately choose to believe rather than accepting things patently.

[@Godsglory777]

@seanconway9957 no, it says the Beareans were more noble because (searched the scriptures), not throw it out to become a new ager.

[@seanconway9957]

They used their brains to search the scriptures.

[@Godsglory777]

@@seanconway9957 exactly. Anyone who uses their "brains" to prayerfully search the scriptures will always come to the conclusion that Jesus is Lord and the heavenly Father is our Creator.

[@evilsquirrel5214]

I am a partially deconstructed believer. Because of confusion i almost left the faith.

[@carolynmckinnon9185]

Hope you are okay now.😏

[@heavymetalzombiepilot4049]

Imagine being afraid of people finding out that their identity is not living for someone else of questionable origin but for themselves and each other, perhaps as religiosity fades into the background these people will find a “higher calling” that doesn’t require them to prey upon vulnerable people.

[@mwapeg]

David never struggled with his faith, he struggled with his situation. Saying there is no absolute truth means denying Jesus and all He has done for us. Looking for your "own version" of truth means taking away from God's authority and His rule. It's okay to have questions it's not okay to turn it into a trend to deliberately mislead other Christians and cause division in the body of Christ. If you really want to know the truth, just ask Jesus

[@animalsarefriends4342]

Deconstruction of anyone's faith is to be encouraged, if your faith is controlling you by dogmas, doctrines AND fear, if it doesn't hold up to your intelligence , logic, conscience & inner guidance, it's vital for you to question the beliefs. I deconstructed from Christianity 30 years back and found eastern religion & philosophy more suitable for my evolution as a spiritual being!🙏🙏

[@kiwisaram9373]

How can it be called deconstructionism, if it is merely the constructing of faith that was previously left undone?

[@barbaragrahamgrabowski9330]

Jesus stated I Am the Way, the Life and the Truth. Jesus is Truth and if you have bended your knees in repentance of the sin died on the cross for you, as I did.. then Absolute Truth, Jesus, took up residence in your heart. Then no lie should be in your mind, heart, come out of you lips from your heart or mind. If you witness a lie begin to form. Stop. Literally fall on your knees in your heart, mind and soul and literally on your knees when possible. I used to be a walking letter carrier and frequently was on my knees in my heart. Very important read the Bible cover to cover at least 10xs and everyday searching the Scriptures so you can discern truth.

[@michellemybelle9591]

It's more of a Phil Robertson answer.

[@docbrown7513]

I think people are just seeing that common teachings that people spend so much time on are not biblical. The example that comes to mind is pre tribulation rapture. There are also misunderstandings of historical doctrine that have been propagated unchecked like the development of an unscriptural trinity. The same people who insist that creation happens in 6, 24 hour days don't apply the same standard to Jesus being in the tomb for 3 days.... The cultural religion that robs people of the truth is a constant struggle.

[@nicholasgee9127]

The Trinity goes all the way back to the beginning. You're making ridiculous remarks

[@agatinacuria56]

No Human. Only Jesus is the truth! ❣

[@pkl8811]

Extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

[@CharlieEarthRoast]

Deconstructing your faith is only dangerous to a cult.

[@DeathAngel-tg9yk]

👼 THERE'S NO RETURNS.

[@larriveeman]

Unfortunately feelings, friendship and culture color ones view of scripture when it should be scripture that colors culture

[@lesliegaskill650]

Money??

[@TheAngryAtheist]

David didnt write the pslams... People leave their faith because theyre tired of being lied to.

[@jillfabing8756]

This is sad.

[@Cardsfan6251]

Jordan Peterson reference? You lost me

[@spacelinx]

Another aspect of deconstruction not mentioned here is that thanks to the Internet, people are becoming more aware of the true history of the Bible, how it was written (and by whom), and how it all matches up (or doesn’t) with discovered history and archaeology. Many younger people also don’t ascribe to the mainstream messages and stances of Christianity that are considered conservative within political discussion circles. Ministers shouldn’t just be preaching watered down gospels and holding concerts for Jesus, but addressing these deeper issues and what it really means to follow Jesus. Like, why are there more books written about Jesus than appear in the Bible? Why are there more Jewish works than appear in the OT, like the Apocrypha books, or the Books of Enoch, the Book of Jubilee? Why were those books rejected from the canon? What strong proofs outside the Bible are there for the Resurrection? Was Gnosticism the true message of Jesus, or a corruption of the original stories and theology about Jesus? These are the kinds of things people are learning about on their own, making their own conclusions about them, with no guidance on the matter whatsoever from a Christian view or even a based historical perspective. It’s a part of the deconstruction process just as much as it is a philosophical rejection of current Christian dogma and doctrines.

[@stephaniesnell7198]

So reformed-not deconstructed

[@chrisbailey9377]

Pshhhht I ain't deconstructing nothing. My Faith And Belief is on fire. I see God move in life regularly. If your faith is that weak you need to deconstruct it then honestly your weren't that strong of a believer to begin with. I am Christian and know my Father is 100% real. He speaks in many different ways. I don't follow or listen to ANYBODY else in this planet. Id you become born again, and the Holy Spirit is in you then thie Bible becomes so clear it's not even funny. Your form a relationship with God and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and watch God move in your life. Fellowship is always good but it ain't needed. Honestly all these different denominations just pollutes the truth. ACTUALLY baptized and Born again, Relationship ,Bible.... All you need. Deconstructing faith..... Get out of here with that nonsense.

[@chrisbailey9377]

If you become Born again*

[@chrisbailey9377]

Sorry y'all. Should have used spell check. Was excited. 😁

[@Forgiven.Man.of.GOD.]

🙌🏼🙌🏼💯💯🙌🏼🔥💯🔥🔥🔥 AMEN BROTHER!!!

[@ericmchenryil5186]

Matt Chandler is teaching social Justice gospel. So what is he talking about? LOL.

[@user-ky5dy5hl4d]

Faith is not knowledge.