David Gilmour’s Rat Tones (…and More!)

[@mustyguitar]

Please remember that this video is a guide for you, it may not be spot on for you guys. Remember, some of the sounds are extracted and they lose some of the frequencies. Same goes for other tones as well. - TONS of tabs & backing tracks & tone and gear guides: www.patreon.com/mustafacankaya - What Do You Want From Me Cover: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWqXYYuujdxkndk - Keep Talking PULSE Cover:kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmfKYoyYrtebeJI - PULSE Definitive Guide: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGmnnIqAYsaMrpI - PastFx Revolution Review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGHbnY14hc9_jpI - Gdansk Definitive Guide: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpmWd6dsds6MoKc - Learn Echoes Gdansk Solo: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmiYkpmQlKxopK8 - Learn Gdansk Funky Solo: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnOofZhqp616Y9U 🎸 Absolute Essential Top 10 Gilmour Solo Backing Tracks and Tabs: www.patreon.com/mustafacankaya/shop/10-essential-gilmour-solo-tabs-solo-14794?Link& 💵 Here are the 9 CHEAP AND BEST pedals I recommend for almost all the tones I get: thmn.to/thocf/xxm4h02xts ✅ Here are all my gear that I can't live without: thmn.to/thocf/at2lukfwk3 ➡ Check Out My Jams: kzbin.info/aero/PLZE1z4lCW33MVR-33x4zk9aecfnJiUIfj

[@kaitodesire]

Dude I am so glad I found your channel, love the content 👍👍👍

[@angusorvid8840]

I used Rats on and off for decades. I started using them when I played classic rock in the mid 80s with my first guitar, a strat. I kept using them through my metal phase as I played lead shreddy guitar in a lot of silly metal bands in Los Angeles, and then when I got out of that scene I always found a place for the Rat. I still love the Rat and use it. But I think the Rat copies have gotten so good that there's no reason to obsess over a ProCo original Rat. I had a Donner chorus a couple years back that I got for $30. I wish I still had it. That was one of the best choruses I've ever had. The best gear is not always the most expensive.

[@SomeKindOfMadman]

Beautiful playing, it’s always a treat to hear you, also informative as always. Thanks a million.

[@guitarandblanket]

Great work! Bravo! Fantastic sounds, very close to David's tone.

[@riphopfer5816]

I own a vintage 80s ProCo Rat-you know…the Big One. However, I play a VERY wide variety of tones, and my pedalboard has ~20 pedals on it. For that reason, I LOVE Mooer Mini pedals. As you said: they contain EXACT copies of the original circuits, but take up a fraction of the space. I’ve replaced my Blues Driver with a Blues Mood; I replaced my Marshall Bluesbreaker with a Blues Crab, my Rat with a Black Secret, and my main flanger is a Mooer E-Lady. I also really like TC Electronics’ Mini pedals with TonePrint, as they can be reprogrammed to affect the tone like a number of different pedals. My main chorus is a TC Corona Mini set to behave like a CE-2; my compressor of choice is a TC Hypergravity that I have set to respond like a script-style Dyna Comp, when I’m doing the Gilmour thing; My personal tone borrows a lot from Mark Knopfler, however, so I can, in under 3m seconds, reprogram it to behave like an Orange Squeezer. Lastly, I use a TC Spark mini as a clean boost after my drive section. I also have the full-sized Flashback 2 and the original Hall Of Fame Reverb. Anyroad…love yr channel, man; you’re a killer player, and have a VERY good understanding of the fundamentals of tone-shaping. I wish I knew all you do when I was your age! Keep rockin, brother. Cheers!

[@richb9232]

I am so glad you enjoyed my recommendation Brandon! I was concerned it maybe too different. I properly love this song, absolutely perfect on its own. It's such a departure from the their middle period and Roger's voice, very Floyd and overtly political. I really enjoyed your reaction mate. To hear the breadth of their ouvre (probably spelt it wrong) try out their first 2albums man. Peace brother so glad you had a good time!

[@derekbrown6832]

Another great rat clone worth mentioning is the TC Electronic Magus Pro, i have one, it sounds great, and covers a lot of ground. Great video, and playing.

[@HackTheSystem-kw1nb]

that keep talking tone is my all time goal man. thank you! insane playing!

[@andbenitz]

You nailed the On The Turning Away tone!

[@mustyguitar]

meh, the backing track I made is not the best, it killed some of the frequencies, but I think that is as close as it can get in a mini setup.

[@feds27]

The Rat is such a versatile pedal. Thanks for sharing this.

[@nelsongruber4680]

Great!!! Mustafa!! 💪🎸🎶Thank you for the lessons.👏👏😊

[@lostinchords]

I've found the Rat/Black Secret to be a great alternative for The Wall tones. For example, on YOUNG LUST, I use it in the following way: Rat at 10 o'clock, bridge/mid pickups, guitar volume rolled off to 7 or 8... and of course a flanger (ElecLady) and a short delay. Sweet!

[@mustyguitar]

why not bridge?

[@lostinchords]

@@mustyguitar I've tried it too, but the mid+bridge gave a glassy character with the RAT and the guitar vol rolled-off that sounded better.

[@bsquare6809]

I have the original proco rat. Version 1a. Fringe logo. Original box along with warranty card. It was my dads. He never really used it much. It still looks like it just rolled out of the factory.

[@mustyguitar]

dude that sh*t must cost like at least 5k in this market. nice!

[@Dwightpower88]

Hang on to that, man

[@KYCDK]

I just discovered an aussie band that seems kinda similar to pink floyd, the guitarist said david gilmour is his biggest influence too, they are called psychedelic porn crumpets (the minute I saw that name, I knew they were gonna be good lol) "found god in a tomato" has a few pink floyd influences in there I think, especially the solo and the little jam preceding it also the themes just seem very syd barret in a way, same with the names, like the one mentioned is about a guy who finds a tomato which I guess just opens his mind and shows him the universe and stuff. they also have songs like "marmalade march" "cornfake" "gurzle" which all sounds like names you would find on a syd barret solo album, they have an album called night gnomes and a song called "mundungus" it's like if you mixed the music of 70's floyd with the ideas of syd barret floyd and also sprinkled in some metal guitar riffs sparingly in a few songs, just enough to give a led zeppelin kind of edge. it's really weird, and it seems very 70's but also modern in a very odd way. they are a modern band btw. it's kinda weird how they have a ton of mixed ideas that work kinda well together I've just been bingeing their albums and singles for the past week and need to share it

[@roscius6204]

I'm pretty convinced, definitely more rat tones in those songs than I would have imagined. Nice playing too...

[@BorysOliinyk]

Looks like I'm bringing Black Secret back to my pedalboard :) Thanks, Mustafa!

[@mustyguitar]

Haha! Black Secret is not always on my pedalboard, but always around it :)

[@andreybyl]

Great video👏

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

I think he used that smaller board mainly for guest appearances?

[@chrissguitarshow206]

Been waiting on the rat tone approach

[@erwintrobinger3559]

Hello! Your channel is the one for gilmour content. Im interested how this pedal compares to the Russian Big muff for his lead tones. Is there any need to have both or is the big muff also pretty much in the same range? I just bought one..should i get a rat clone too ore is the bm enough? clone

[@RoyDumaw]

Does the Black Secret's filter knob work the same as the filter on the RAT? Brighten the sound as you turn it anti-clock wise, unlike all other tone knobs on other pedals.

[@mustyguitar]

Filter knob is terrible, I don’t know what it does 😅

[@Lander-bo2rq]

i like the rat type tones that gilmour got from pulse a whole lot. but personally i like g2 a whole lot more because its basically rat II pro+ premium or something like that. but even more i love big muff and for the past 3 months ive been loafing for one. specifically the patriarch. it sounds even better than the green russian and as good as rams head (in my head).

[@mustyguitar]

You know, I'm not affiliated or anything with the brand, but honestly, whatever PastFx makes, it's something good. their G2 pedal is always on my board, td-y is almost always on my studio tones and gdansk tones, the elastic is of course legendary and the one I always use for flanger tones and patriarch is always there when I need something more than green russian. the low and mids knob is the best thing on a big muff

[@Lander-bo2rq]

@@mustyguitar can totally agree with the pedal takes and i have seen a lot of people mistake that you are affiliated with past fx. but anyways over the past 2 weeks i have come to apreciate flanger more. the people of past fx are really good pedal makers.

[@OneMoreGrave]

Check out the Wample Ratsbain. Best rat out there.

[@michelvondenhoff9673]

David Gilmour, one of my favorites. Still remember when I heard Money and One of these Days for the first time. On a holiday my souvenir is mostly music. Meddle I bought in Prague and Robert Johnson in Charlesville-Mézières for example 🤠

[@cobowe]

Mosky is closer to the RAT I love the Mooer E Lady & Phase 90, but their Rat is Pants Mooer Crunch is rear Mooer Analogman DS clone is brilliant

[@MrEpic-lf4gn]

Mooer DS clone (Ultra Drive MKII) is s**t.

[@orlandoteodorogomes374]

Eu gostaria muito de poder regular esses timbres mais próximo possível na BOSS GT-1 Será que consigo??

[@RomainBigeardGuitar]

I think he had it in his rig for the Momentary Lapse of Reason tour as well, no? (So more like 1988)

[@mustyguitar]

nope, that was boss mz-2 or hm-2. but funny enough, he had a ts10 on his 1989 rig :)

[@RomainBigeardGuitar]

@@mustyguitar You're right, I thought he had introduced the RAT before. I got my old HM-2 out on the week-end because I went down a Gilmour Rabbit Hole (as you do).

[@Flerg3]

What did he use on No More Lonely Nights? Sounds Ratish to me and that was in 84’

[@mustyguitar]

That is Boss HM-2 and probably Boss CE-3 chorus.

[@john_sandilau]

Can you maybe make a guitar lesson/tutorial on Red House by Jimi Hendrix pleaaasee!!! Thanks a lot!

[@mustyguitar]

what a classic! But I don't think I should be the one to cover it, at least for now. I'm not intend to do what other players can do better than me. But I'm going to get into Hendrix more in the future

[@AlpSaygi]

Çok güzel çalım ellerine sağlık hocam, fakat low frekanslarda sorun var. Gitar soundu çok tiz ağırlıklı. Kaliteli bir IEM ile dinlediğimde Rat, muff, fuzz pedal fark etmeksizin genel olarak gitar ses processinde EQ sorunu var gibi.

[@mustyguitar]

Bunu biraz açar mısın tam anlamadım, ben bir ses mühendisi değilim ve bir problem olduğunu düşünüyorum hali hazırda

[@AlpSaygi]

Ben de ses mühendisi değilim, bir gitaristim. Yıllarca Gilmour tonlarına kafa yormuş birisiyim diyebilirim. Öncelikle videolar için takdir ettiğimi belirteyim. Amfiden mikrofonlama yoluyla mı yoksa kabloyla ses kartına giriyorsun? Backing Tracklerde sorun yok düşük frekanslarda özellikle fakat; sanki gitar hep Money'in meşhur Dry Solo'su gibi duyuluyor. Mid ve Tiz frekanslar var ama Bass frekanslar kayıp geliyor. 70'ler Fuzz ve 80'lerden itibaren Muff soundlarında sıkıntı olacaktır illaki.@@mustyguitar

[@3rdPlaya0709]

What is this “extracting” you mentioned

[@mustyguitar]

Means everything but guitar is removed from the mix. Well, at least as best as I can :)

[@domfrollo1482]

Mustafa selam, pastfx'in pedallarina nasil ulasabilirim, yardimci olabilir misin?

[@mustyguitar]

nasıl ulaşabilirim derken? sitelerinden ulaşabilirsiniz. türkiye'ye getirme konusunda mı soruyorsunuz?

[@domfrollo1482]

@@mustyguitar Evet Turkiye'ye getirmek icin soruyorum. Avustralya'dan geliyor sanirim, gumruk vs sorun oluyordur diye endise ettim. Veya Turkiye'de bir distributoru de yok diye anladim. Thomann'da da goremedim.

[@mustyguitar]

@@domfrollo1482 150 euro'yu geçmediği için gümrükte kalmıyor. ama seni arayıp %50 vergi isteyecekler. sitesinden sipariş verebilirsin diyeceğim ama allah'ın cezası memlekette paypal yasak :)

[@MK-tj5bf]

Now Im confused even more than before :) What should I use for high gain Gilmour sound? Big Muff or Rat style pedal?

[@mustyguitar]

yo, my man how did I confuse you :( what kind of high gain are we talking about? high gain like 2016 faces of stone? high gain like sorrow pulse? high gain like echoes gdansk? all of these sounds are high gain, all of these are different types of pedals :) you use big muff for big muff sounds and rat for the early 90s to mid 90s stuff. just like in the video

[@MK-tj5bf]

@@mustyguitar Actually liking for the sound of the end of 80s A Momentary lapse if reason and Delicate sound if thunder. And definitely the sound for Comfortably Numb. Thanks a lot!

[@mustyguitar]

​@@MK-tj5bf you mean something like this?: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqC0f5emYsmAp8k you should get boss hm-2 type pedal then.

[@MK-tj5bf]

@@mustyguitar Now Im even more more confused :))))) So Big Muff Rat Boss HM-2 ….. I just need a pedal to play PF :) Boss BD-2 and one of those mentioned above. But which one of those?

[@mustyguitar]

@@MK-tj5bf I think these will help you a lot: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6qpood8jrtlkLc kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZO2oYhjbbejlbM

[@colinmortimore218]

What amp and speaker is being used?

[@mustyguitar]

Laney Cub 12r with stock speakers

[@igorelperin8277]

Very good job, but for CN from PULSE you did not nail that tone - have a listen that show

[@giffyfaces]

for the love of god, will you intonate your guitar.. i can see just by looking at your saddles that its not been done and it makes your playing stand out as bad. sort your intonation out and then ill consider listening but as it stands i cant listen to any of your playing as while its good it can be a lot better and its not down to technique its down to the strings being set properly.

[@martinc76]

is the black secret the one that is on aliexpress?