Elite College Students Said They Had No Prejudice. They Were Wrong. Could This Run On TV Today?

This program aired on television in 1967. The producers selected a group of students from elite universities who said that they were not prejudiced. They spent several days together in retreat opening up to one another and found that, like almost all of us, things were more complicated than they had previously felt they were. Watch this for a while and you will see how they opened up to one another.
At the time, the United States was in a transformative period with regard to race and religion. Many societal norms were being challenged.
The 1960s marked significant progress in the fight for civil rights for Black Americans. The long-simmering racial tensions in America's cities exploded in 1967 most notably during the Detroit Riot, which lasted five days and resulted in 43 deaths. These uprisings were a reaction to systemic discrimination, police violence, and urban decay but further polarized Black & white communities in many cities. The media often sensationalized these events, reinforcing negative stereotypes about Black Americans. The framing sometimes implied that Black anger or criminality was the primary issue.
Some politicians sought to exploit racial tensions. They criticized civil rights activists and protesters, painting them as disruptive or even un-American. The term "law and order" was becoming a coded way of discussing racial tensions and was increasingly used in political campaigns.
While the Supreme Court case Loving v. Virginia in 1967 declared anti-miscegenation laws unconstitutional, interracial relationships, especially between Black and white people, were still largely stigmatized. These relationships often were met with hostility and even violence in some parts of the country.
Asian Americans, particularly after World War II, faced their own set of prejudices and discriminatory laws. The model minority stereotype began to be applied to Asian Americans which painted them as a "successful" minority in comparison to others, like Black Americans. This stereotype, while seemingly positive, created a wedge between different minority groups. Relationships between Asian and Black individuals were less common and discussed than Black-white relationships. These relationships faced prejudice from both communities, often rooted in stereotypes and misconceptions.
The post-World War II period also saw a decline in overt anti-Semitism in the United States. However, tensions still existed. Marriages between Christians and Jews were becoming more common but these relationships often faced challenges, particularly when deciding how to raise children or facing prejudice from extended family or communities.
College campuses were places where religious barriers were challenged. The 1960s saw an increasing secularization among the youth leading to a more relaxed view on interfaith relationships.
Also religious relations in the ‘60s includes the ecumenical movement which aimed to foster greater understanding and cooperation among different Christian denominations and, to a lesser extent, between Christians and Jews.
I did not produce this program but I was one of its cameramen.

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

Amazing 1960s college student race related debate - kzbin.info/www/bejne/omPJaJSVd9d2kNE

[@numbersix8919]

Good camera work Mr Hoffman! I imagine you must have shot several hours of these discussions -- too bad it couldn't have been edited into a longer form!

[@MrRobertFarr]

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[@michelecraig9658]

This is very thought provoking. I grew up in the sixties and seventies and most of my friends were Japanese and Chinese American. The prejudice I witnessed them experiencing was real. But it wasn't until we were in high school and they told me about the internment camps their parents had lived in that I realized my own latent prejudice when I absolutely refused to believe they were telling the truth. They dragged me to Mr. Sanematsu, the only Japanese American teacher at the school, who had been in an internment camp, and I finally believed them. But my initial doubt, seriously damaged our friendships.

[@numbersix8919]

@@michelecraig9658 We just can't believe the worst of ourselves. German people have the same problem.

[@MrRobertFarr]

@@michelecraig9658 I have positive , and negative prejudices about Chinese and Japanese students. At University, I ended up in a class with 50 percent Chinese students. Or Asian students, from Hong Kong. With possibly. Mixed British and Asian roots as Hong Kong was the trading port won by a British victory against Chinese Naval Forces .

[@williamevans9426]

It would be fascinating to interview these individuals again to see how they see the world today.

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

I agree. It would be fantastic. David Hoffman filmmaker

[@intuitivediane]

Yes like that BBC show like the kids that were interviewed every 7 years.

[@gissellest333]

That would be amazing.

[@williamevans9426]

@@intuitivediane Just what I was thinking!

[@brianarbenz1329]

Agree, but given how the cigarette smoke was flying, who knows how many of these people are still with us.

[@bernmahan1162]

So great to see people disagreeing, admitting prejudice and still being able to talk to each other instead of screaming!

[@Aglaesia]

While of course it's mature, emotionally intelligent and important to talk at a neutral level with people you disagree with, I also don't think it's wrong that we have much less of a tolerance for racism and prejudice now than we did then, and it's reasonable for people (especially with personal experiences of the sort) to get upset quickly by ignorant people

[@bernmahan1162]

We were actively confronting racists and fascists from the 70's on, whether the National Front with Anti Nazi League or as part of Anti Apartheid movement. We would yell and so on at demos but when dealing with individuals it is different. You won't talk your Grandad out of his ingrained racism but you can be an influence against his poison. I have been attacked and threatened just for politely asking skinheads at bus stops and on trains to "please don't talk to that lady like that" etc. I have also changed the minds of some racist associates simply by showing them the other side and showing contradictions in their thought. A lot of bigotry is just ignorance. @@Aglaesia

[@mdarrenu]

All possible until the mid-90s

[@ChestersonJack]

I’m 21 years old and while I don’t know if they’d ever bring it to camera, I can confirm young people certainly still have conversations like this today. The exact talking points, the cultural fears, the language used, it’s a little different, but it’s not very far removed from what’s depicted here. I don’t know why, but I love the 60s interviews the best; it’s actually how I found your channel!

[@ownedbymykitty270]

That is refreshing to hear. We had conversations like this when I was in college too back in the early 90s and I thought it might have disappeared now with A LOT more self-censoring.

[@Zowiettr]

current grad student here did my undergrad during covid times and the conversations my peers and i had were like this especially at my diverse as hell university down in florida. Beautiful memories i wish I had footage like this of.

[@dereksalas8195]

What a level of civility these kids showed.

[@paulallen6336]

So therapeutic to speak freely. You'll never know what the other truly intends or thinks without having a dialogue.

[@blueodum]

This is amazing. But in the intro it was said that they were not "uncommonly" prejudiced, not lacking all prejudice. These young people were being very honest and I believe that such attitudes are still common, though not spoken about publicly.

[@brucecampo6543]

I love how they are unashamed of being completely honest, because there is no reprisal for it I'm glad it was afforded to them at the time because we can understand that all races and religions have biases so it is actually normal to feel this way but its not a great idea to stay that way especially in a place like America where we are such a melting pot of so many different tribes, I do feel dialog honest ,earnest dialog is so enlightening, thank you for sharing

[@gissellest333]

Having a civilized talk without cussing or shouting, sadly we can’t do this anymore. “I’m me and that’s what I wanna be” I love that. ❤

[@TheGenericAssasin]

This definitely still happens. Generally not in online spaces, but social media isn't representative of reality.

[@chadthemannable]

Freedom of speech and nobody yelling or hitting each other... Wow

[@jakobbauz]

Also: No one is degrading or insulting anyone, so there is not much cause to be yelling or fighting.

[@dantzmusic]

@@cs5384 Yelling may be a good thing if someone is in immediate danger, but if you are trying to reason with a person, promote understanding, and obtain a listening ear, would not a calm respective approach possibly be more effective in most situations?

[@ArtistinDeadlight777]

@@jakobbauz What are you people on about? They're saying n*gro non-stop. I can't say that without triggering 90% of the American population.

[@JWF99]

It's interesting to look back in time like this, but I don't think this could air on US networks today, btw the camera man seemed to do a really good job! I especially noticed the "zooming in" on their hands while they were speaking, it was quite revealing, Thanks David ✌

[@icedcoffee8561]

Have you never watched fox? Or MTG live on air?? Hatred is pretty open on American television. She throws out antisemitic dog whistles all the time! You have to be seriously daft to not pick up on that... or maybe you don't find antisemitism to be an issue.

[@MicahScottPnD]

Perhaps that's today's problem -- that something like this couldn't air. By my experience, it's through conversations like this that we learn the language to discuss in the way we need to to get moving in a forward direction. Something like this provides example

[@tammyhanley9971]

I love the way they are able to speak with each other with feeling and not yelling and trying to push there personal view or name calling and labeling each other

[@danusdragonfly6640]

I remember growing up listening to and learning the art of conversation. This *could* be aired on tv today - but very few people have these conversational skills anymore.

[@JJ-ju6ky]

Young adults having a discussion where sensitive subjects are being debated, and no one is yelling or interrupting. Refreshing

[@steelyman08]

I think that's the most important thing about the entire debate: these kids kept it together and were respectful despite their differences.

[@ShadowDrake102]

Sarah has such an amazing perspective. Shes tired of racism, but she blames black people and sees them as an inconvenience. So strange, so fundamentally human and trying to make sense of it.

[@MicahScottPnD]

She does seem to be taking it all in and assessing it for real, in my estimation

[@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle]

​@@MicahScottPnDhow?

[@MicahScottPnD]

@@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle It seems to me she isn't pre-decided on the topics, that she's hearing new information as it comes up, adjusting to it, whether it fits her view or not, whether it's comfortable or not. I think she has a realistic approach to the discussion, trying to understand the framework no matter how tricky or complex, and making her best effort to do so. I don't know if that's true, but it's how she seems to me. Now I want to watch the whole thing again! 😊

[@Jeremy-th5pt]

Back when we had conversations without canceling anyone. Those were the days.

[@JohnSmith-ct5jd]

Yeah, before the left took over.

[@africkinamerican]

" The term 'law and order' was becoming a coded way of discussing racial tensions" Or maybe sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar, and law and order is just that. What everybody wants (even people of color), and what our Constitutions promise. The biggest victims of the 60s riots were black communities. Many of these have never recovered. And we've seen replay after replay of this in recent years. Well-funded organizations come into communities, stoke tensions and anger -- eventually rioting, leaving a wake of destruction. How is this helping black people?

[@jctai100]

Thoughtful, well-spoken, honest, forthcoming and above all CANDID! These are the discussions we still need today but unfortunately have neither the capacity nor the resilience to carry forward.

[@drewpall2598]

@jctai100... I agree we could use more open forum, speak freely discussion in this day of age it a good way to get to know how people feel on importin issues of today.

[@chocomalk]

"The model minority stereotype began to be applied to Asian Americans which painted them as a "successful" minority in comparison to others" uhhh statistics are not a stereotype

[@arthurdalton517]

Mr Hoffman what a great interview. So incredible, so insightful

[@christophermorgan3261]

The first thing that strikes me is the intelligence and sophistication and thoughtfulness of these college age kids. Much less so in our own times when students mainly aim for a professional qualification. I live near and graduated from Vanderbilt University in Nashville with a BA in philosophy. Everyone I knew at that time talked this way. Now Vanderbilt students are barely articulate, and too busy on their smart phones to stop for a conversation. Of course 50 years ago is a huge historical gap. Another gem from David Hoffman.

[@thewkovacs316]

if one is a bigot or a racist, by definition, one is not intelligent just more evidence that admission to elite schools has never been what it was cracked up to be

[@Mr.Rob_Bob]

Wow. I couldn’t disagree more. Teens nowadays have access to all information at their fingertips, teens from 50 years ago can’t compete. Using the old as time generation blaming is so lame. Makes you sound like a loser.

[@theprophet2444]

The first thing you notice is that people were much more civilized back then, than they are now.

[@Glamerth]

Civilized? Lol riiiight

[@BeardofBeesPool]

This was 1967.. segregation just ended 3 years prior. MLK, RFK and JFK were assassinated within a 5 year span.

[@MicahScottPnD]

Prophet, i think i know what you mean. They at least have the ability to have the discussion and touch on topics they're obviously not that comfortable with, and they do it with openness, introspection and honesty, despite discomfort. I don't know if that's exactly what you mean, but I think so

[@HiGlowie]

@@Glamerthcivilized in the sense that normal people spoke far more intelligently and rationally than most people today.

[@vickim8836]

Absolutely awesome! Would love to see this same debate among people that age today. My guess it wouldn't be much different. Thanks for this Mr. Hoffman!

[@dantzmusic]

*Prejudice is like a virus. It harms its victims, and people can be unaware that they are infected.*

[@wernerbro3208]

ye leftist woke cucks are the most racist ppl on earth

[@mikemiller659]

Prejudice is learned from experiences in life

[@dantzmusic]

@@mikemiller659 Yes, racial prejudice is certainly a learned behavior. Most of us can recognize prejudice in others. But it may be difficult to see it in ourselves. They may treat someone differently and honestly not know that they did it. On the other hand, by having positive experiences along with a personal effort to see a person as an individual, they have been able to change their hearts and minds, even developing close friendships with some they may have initially hated in their ignorance. How very heartwarming that is!

[@Mr.Robot-_-]

@@mikemiller659 Prejudice is learned from the *stereotyping* from experiences in life*. There, I fixed it for you.

[@pablogats4627]

​@@dantzmusicbeing prejudice can be a good thing sometimes keeps you safe

[@10secondsrule]

It always strikes me how mature young people were in the past. This bunch is more mature than most modern over 40’s or even 50’s. I can only cry thinking of the next generation raised on internet and social media. Incredibly interesting discussion and something everyone should have with themselves - I did and I was surprised how many prejudice I have. I think it’s a normal thinking we carry from the past just like we differentiate much more many shades of green than any other colour. It used to protect us as a group when we were cavemen… maybe… That’s my theory anyway and as long as you don’t act on it and work on overcoming it is natural to have these thoughts. Fear often come from the unknown.

[@HaleyMary]

I agree. Even though some of them shared antisemitic or racist views, they shared their opinions articulately. You can't have a debate with anyone of the millennial, z or even younger xers today without people getting into a hissy fit and screaming at one another.

[@nickpatella1525]

It could have been heated if it was a different group of people. This group had a college education and know that their conversation is being televised.

[@booboo5413]

This is fascinating to watch. It really is and I think what strikes me is the honesty between each other which they might not have known at the time. Looking on as an English woman they all seem to have a cultural accent and manner which appears quite similar to one another. Possibly with this similarity they’re actually able to talk things out more effectively. It’s just an observation but I do think there’s something in how we converse with one another which is overlooked somewhat. I’ve always been fascinated with accents and colloquialism and how much they also impact on group identity.

[@MicahScottPnD]

@@rhonnachurch6929 That's an incredibly peculiar and interesting trouble, phone compared with in-person. Also an excellent observation and insight

[@mikemiller659]

Agreed Spock

[@sj122s]

Plain and simple. People either like, or not like what they want in life. It will always be this way. It is human nature.

[@tttgaming8762]

16:06 “yeah but mines better” Tom is quick

[@steelyman08]

I think the very concept of bringing elite, diverse students together to discuss prejudice was a stroke of genius in itself. You could feel that their lives had been sheltered by the way they communicated. I think that's what made them all seem so honest (they were mostly very straightforward). But that selfsame elitism also gave them the ability to debate intelligently & with enough respect to keep things moving along without anyone blowing a fuse. You could also see one or two reaching out for allies towards the end, but that wasn't even reciprocated. Everyone seemed more relaxed at the end as a result of having released their differences to one another ~ even if agreements weren't actually reached. Could this be aired on TV today? This original 1967 debate, or a similar debate with elite/diverse students today? Sorry if that sounds like a stupid question. This actual debate could easily be incorporated into an historical show about racism. But if you were to put similarly diverse & elite students into exactly this format in 2023, I don't think they'd permit such candour on TV. Sorry to waffle on, but this is an excellent upload ~ a breath of fresh air. Thank you as always.

[@MicahScottPnD]

What an ending!! Now, this is going to sound strange, but sometimes I think "have less confidence" is worthwhile advice

[@kabbub]

Love the honesty and willingness to express themselves. It's refreshing to see. I think they have a trust for each other that a lot of people don't seemingly have now. I feel as if people now are afraid to express their true feelings for fear of being accused of being bigots. I'm old enough to remember people expressing themselves like this without fear of reprisals and remain civil. Thanks for showing this.

[@fallon7616]

My first friend in Catholic school was a little girl and she was black. Kids learn prejudice 😢 I was told that I was not allowed to be her friend 😢

[@KittyGrizGriz]

How very sad for you both 🙁

[@totallyfrozen]

What I like the most about this film is that these students felt safe enough to be honest. They didn’t say anything that made them look too good and maybe they didn’t realize that at the time, but they felt like they had room to be honest and have a real conversation.

[@damnprivacy3579]

That was fantastic! Those kids were beautifully brutally honest, and it is conversations like this we should not forget! This white washing of all things personally unpleasant is going to do a lot of harm in the end. Blessings and joy sent to you David 🙏✌

[@trainer1158]

Amazingly well-spoken young people. Aside from the rich content, the thing I most noticed is the complete absence of "y'knows" and "so" and similar verbal tics that are so annoying. It really would be wonderful to see some of these people re-interviewed. *Also noticed -- and it may just be the editing for this clip -- that boys had far more screen time than girls, except for one girl.

[@niccoarcadia4179]

A gem! Thanks David!

[@matthewfarmer2520]

Yes it would be great to interview these people in the video today to see how they think. They can look at the old video and give a talk on how it was in the 1960s. Some maybe around or they pass on. Thanks for sharing this video David Hoffman film maker 🎥🎞️🙂

[@Sheblah1]

Did each of their particular hostilities yield to progressive insight as they grew older, or did they become more firmly set I wonder?

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

I'd love the answer to that question as well. David Hoffman filmmaker

[@daffidkane8350]

Despite the prejudices of these your people, these young people come across as more calm, controlled, and honest than the college educated youth today who are so angry and vicious.

[@mdarrenu]

David - Another amazing documentary and amazing set of young adults. I remember when you could talk openly like that with other students and no one got all bent out of shape and people were not x or y - they were shades of beliefs. Hope you are doing well.

[@dantzmusic]

*Many governments pass laws to fight racism and other forms of prejudice. Nevertheless,* *prejudice continues. Why? Because those laws only address a person’s actions. They* *cannot control a person’s thoughts and feelings. Prejudice starts in a person’s mind and* *heart.*

[@Wegivesp]

Because prejudice is not racism. Everyone has prejudices and bias based on race. Racism is a system built based on prejudices and bias that is intentionally constructed as the gatekeepers to close the opportunity door on race to oppress that race.

[@dantzmusic]

​@@Wegivesp While there is a social construct involved, “Racism,” according to one reference, is “a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.” This does involve 'prejudicial thinking' which often move some individuals to act upon it. Happily, it can be overcome with truth, understanding, and a real concerted effort.

[@Wegivesp]

@@dantzmusic which has been constructed into a system to opress by race. Your social construct of prejudice and your bias does not oppress me even though it exists. It is oppressive when you build a set of systems that prevent economic equality and justice with the intent to oppress another due to your social construct of prejudice and biases. It is the systemic racism that is oppressive. Not the social construct. Because your thoughts, feelings and biases don't necessarily affect my community without the economic and political system eractied to impose the social construct of racism. The systems that supports the social construct has to go.

[@dantzmusic]

@@WegivespThe revolving door of governmental structures are inherently deficient and corrupt. They do not possess the ability to create a fair economic or just system.

[@dantzmusic]

Feeling of racial prejudice leading to the practice of racism is learned. Children are not born that way. As they grow older, they often become exposed to the racist thinking and actions of others. Parents should teach their children to see every person as an individual and an equal member of the one human race. Parents can also set a good example by associating with others regardless of their skin color or nationality, and never joking about or belittling them.

[@StandedInUtah]

This conversation couldn't happen today. We can't speak honestly about race. We are afraid to cross any lines and be canceled.

[@robertlloyd122]

I have honest conversations about race all the time. I had one with a colleague last week! 💗

[@Meee22222]

I've seen videos with people debating about race.

[@garysantos7053]

Words may lie, but Posture, Confident Assertion, and Tone of Voice say it all.

[@JohnSmith-ct5jd]

People aren't prejudiced. They just notice patterns of behavior.

[@faithunseen123]

This was so informative and could be seen to have the same views today as it was then.The media as it did then always exaggerates and brings division then and now..The honesty of these young people was refreshing and they were able to agree to disagree without anger and hatefulness.The young black girl,Sandy bares a uncanny resemblance to Angela Bassett!

[@arthurnorton284]

It is completely shocking how advanced and forward thinking these young Americans were compared with our young people today.

[@koont666]

There's nothing wrong with being more akin to your own ❤🇬🇧

[@dantzmusic]

@koon666 "more akin to your own?"

[@koont666]

@@dantzmusic I've many different ethnicity mixed freinds, doesn't make it bad that they mainly stay with their own and not should it it natural like I don't hang around with black freinds because of their skin colour it's because they are freinds,I still mainly mix with my own working class British own , nothing wrong in it ❤️🇬🇧

[@dantzmusic]

@@koont666 If we have true friends and we truly care about each other, our skin color, social status, and ethnicity, is insignificant. We should want to associate with them. To say someone "stays mainly with their own" and that there is nothing wrong with it, is a racist and divisive statement. That is one reason our world is so divided today. *There is only one human race.* Skin color and other physical features are just a wonderful variety that is found within the human family. We are all related and have descended from our first earthly parents.

[@koont666]

@@dantzmusic tell that to a Muslim,and trust me I'm no racist just a realistic thinking person,how many white folk in a black ghetto? And vice verse it's not racist At all ,I know it's a nice dream that we all get along but realistically this will never happen,we are all different, staying in your own social circle isn't racist it's the reality,I would help anybody of colour, accent, religion ect would not come into it ,we are all human, doesn't mean we have to all be in the same club ,can you imagine how boring that would be ❤️🇬🇧

[@super1media]

@@koont666 What is your parents are of different ethnicities or skin color? How would you determine which parent is "your own?"

[@numbersix8919]

I was very impressed by the mixed-race girl's answer at the end, that she felt less certain about her attitudes about race after the discussions and was wondering how her attitudes would evolve over the years. Are we better today than these kids were then, or are we just sneakier about our prejudices? My opinion is that intermarriage is the answer to racialism (an old word for racism with slightly different connotations).

[@MatthewsSloan]

It was nice to see a conversation about race where some weren't told to shut up and just listen.

[@tiarobinson5601]

Every generation would like to believe it made things better than the previous generation. And to some degree it's true. But maturity has taught me that culture is made up of people, and people aren't perfect. Perhaps the goal isn't perfection but the earnest effort to keep improving ourselves, and the lives of others who have less.

[@troubleshooter166]

How articulate. People in current time rarely know about Warsaw ghetto.

[@amandacarter291]

Fascinating conversations

[@Matt-kt9nm]

Tribalism continues without the tribe.

[@RosiePosey5150]

I dont know if its cause i grew up with a rainbow family of adopted and foster kids but i dont get racist. Why hate for something someone is born as. Im thankful my father and step mom gave me a LOT of siblings from all colors. I will say the moment i was told my favorite brother was black and couldnt be my brother because of his skin color my rage popped up. I was a very happy loving kid and after that i started noticing the church treating kids differently depending on skin color. I always wanted that beautiful dark skin color he had i still do. So it made no sense. The white kids greeted big the kids who had shades of color were given a hi 😢 i started anger therapy by 10.

[@amyshoneye5455]

Thank U Sunshine 🌞 From a 50th yr Best Of Both Nigerian Baba and Isle of Wight Mother 🥰 I really appreciated this❤ Love wrapped up in a Very BIG HUG 🫂 2U from England 🇬🇧 God Bless Us All My Love 😘❤️🙏

[@sarahshanahan2222]

David.. Where does this stuff come from? Do you have literally endless archives of this precious material? This is truely priceless. Did you film all this stuff? It really needs to be admitted into the library of congress for eternal preservation in my opinion because i do think it is absolutely priceless. A true time capsule.

[@10secondsrule]

I like they can admit when they are not sure about or know something. Most people these days will give you some made up bs rather than acknowledge they don’t know something. It’s so refreshing to hear people actually talk and communicate. It’s a shame we have to look for it in the past. I thinks this skill is disappearing very fast. The next thing which will disappear will be us.

[@bauhnguefyische667]

04:02 let that sink in, that is what it should be anywhere, especially the USA. People only identify with a group because they believe they’re part of it, until that group decides you’re not. Reminds me of Groucho Marx, I wouldn’t want to be part of a club that wanted me (paraphrased a bit).

[@michelleelle4622]

Great episode 🩷

[@dannewth7149]

Kids today think they aren't prejudice either.

[@lisar3944]

This is so trippy - a bunch of young adults sitting around smoking and openly admitting they're antisemitic and/or racist and *calmly* calling each other out for harboring some absolutely disgusting views. Especially interesting is that the women don't seem to open up as much on these topics, aside from expressing a sense of worry or "threat" coming from some of the men's statements...but in a weirdly disconnected and impersonal way. The "protestant" woman's recounting her dad's story about the kittens is fairly bizarre (was that joke supposed to actually be funny? it's a bit of a snoozer imo), but she stops short of admitting she's fully on board...a bit...but fully? Unclear. It's absolutely fascinating.

[@ericmatthews9799]

Well the Protestant "goy" that was interviewed should have used the term "shvartza" ..

[@vincec4248]

Great video. Was able to catch the full length after watching this. As an Asian myself, l am familiar with the asian man’s sentiments at 1:17 as l have relatives who are probably around his age (maybe older by a few years) who share this view on African Americans to this day. My dad’s aunt told me how she and her husband came to the US while she was pregnant with their first child, with just a few bags of luggage and no one to help them navigate what would be their new home but they did it and succeeded. I just had no idea this view went so far back.

[@cattycorner8]

😯 @8:55 "I wouldn't harbor anyone who marched to slaughter passively" . Wow that was like a freezing cold shower on my soul. Ignorance so often breeds hatred.

[@crosxroadhxrmony]

🙏🙏🙏great share buddy🆙🆙🆙

[@ld-zj1bn]

So interesting. Thanks for sharing. A lot to think about.

[@Blu3Jao]

Tom is a very funny character; very level headed, but passively antagonistic in an endearing way. "Yeah but mine's better", without missing a single beat. To talk on the rest of discussion, it's interesting to see such intelligent and well spoken individuals openly discuss their prejudices in what to me, it's a very ignorant and naive way. While this group of people are certainly civil with eachother, and feel safe and comfortable discussing their ideas, the overall political climate was much more hostile and violent, which you can certainly see bleeds over into some of their beliefs. (Granted I was not alive, so my knowledge is purely based on historical records such as these. Thank you again, Mr.Hoffman). You have to imagine that some of these children grew up used to such violence, and accepted all the associated emotions as just implicit costs of living in America. You can see it in the way they talk about themselves and each other. Personally I believe all people are born with prejudice, in that everyone is always going to be uncomfortable with what they are not familiar with. Culture then determines whether that recognition of difference turns into mutual respect and exploration of each other as people, or hateful paranoia that poisons the mind with angst and anger. The latter is unfortunately much more immediately sensational, and I think that's how institutional predujice is able to cement itself in societies; through the passive propagation of hate as something familiar and recognizable. I believe a lot of of the issues we face today are caused by the residual infrastructure of hate that isn't acknowledged. The groups you choose to identify with speak more of your character as an individual than your predispositions as a member of that group (at least to me). To paraphrase these students, 'The same but different, and sometimes mine is better than yours, but you probably think the same thing'

[@chito127]

Thanks!

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

Thank you. David Hoffman filmmaker

[@allenanderson4911]

My first two fiancés through me over. They were as American as apple pie, but their parents were first generation Americans, immigrants. They weren't gonna let their daughters marry anyone outside their nationality. It wasn't racism. It was jingoism. Cultural pride. Which was weird because one of them had a Christian church in their basement. They were from a Buddhist culture. The whole congregation was one race, from one country too. Weird.

[@Unfamous_Buddha]

Rick Santorum! @4:34

[@zmeil]

Of course, of course this video film could be on screen and TVs today! My best, Stef

[@djangogeek]

This is fascinating! Thanks for sharing!

[@AnonymousAccount514]

I can’t believe there are people that think that we haven’t made any progress this is definite proof that we have

[@dennykeaton9701]

How so? Today an honest discussion wouldn't be possible.

[@MrAaronmatthew]

Great channel

[@quietspark8703]

The irony is as a society we've now become prejudiced against those with may or may not hold prejudice.

[@mrluckyuncle]

Are they saying “pastel” Jew? What is that?

[@HaHawk]

sounds like his own slang term for an upperclass / yuppie type (i.e., wearing expensive pastel-colored clothing)

[@daffidkane8350]

I recently attended college in the US. The Democrat professors and students were the most racist I ever came across but they were convinced they were so tolerant. They were contemptuous of Christians, Republicans, working class, and blacks.

[@armyantlocsta]

I literally have NEVER wanted to be “white”…. Ever

[@Thesaurcery4U2C]

The more things change ....

[@OlafsonN]

I enjoyed the candid discussions

[@cleokey]

A lot different outlook among elite students like this and students I knew in regular state colleges in my backyard of Venice, Ca. We were having riots during this interview down the street in Watts. Summer of Love & drugs/sex/rock & roll.

[@hangten1904]

This is a big contrast to the video interview of those international students from the 1950s discussing about prejudice. One group is in denial and the other group is not.

[@3-2bravo49]

The one thing about combat that I miss is that color meant absolutely f*cking nothing. If you were a good dude who stood his ground and gave out as much hell as he took in then it didn't matter what creed or color you were. We lived together, we thrived together, and we died together. Same mud, same blood. We were all just american brothers who sacrificed endlessly for each other. All this crap is so petty most of the time.

[@elderlypoodle9181]

Thank you for this 🏆

[@BeliaLastes]

This definitely wouldn't be talked about in a high school/ college type debate and or forum in this day and age are you kidding kid's today would be flipping out, gotta say though those kids were stylish back in 67 the year I was born, those hairstyles, clothes and the sunglasses 😎, that girl with the kerchief looked like that actress Angela Bassett . Good film David 👍🏻😊👍🏻❤

[@abaneyone]

Sounds like very little has changed.

[@drewpall2598]

David, I found this discussion this very interesting, I could see a television program like this "The People Forum" where a host would ask questions on topics of interest of this day of age to a mix panel of all age group to see how they feel about importin issue of the day. Thanks David Hoffman

[@caustinolino3687]

1:48 Wow, I thought this particular sub conflict only went back to the LA Riots. Interesting to learn it goes all the way back to the 60s.

[@allenanderson4911]

Mohammed Ali refused to have white friends and girlfriends. He just said no. Even turned down superstars and bombshells. Take that for what you want. It wasn't till the last few decades of life, because of switching from political Islam to spiritual Islam, that he changed. Malcolm X had the same switch...and became non-racist...after his haj.

[@witchingbrew3]

I just saw the documentary of actress Soilel Moon Frye. Wasn't Virgil Frye friends with Ali. They walked together in protests.

[@mrw1208]

I came of age in the 1980s. Dated girls who were white, Asian, Native American, Latina, black. No one in my small town paid any attention that I ever noticed. I don't remember race even being an issue. Some people were jerks, some people were decent. Had zero to do with ethnic heritage. We have regressed.

[@pj61114]

I never would date anyone who smoked cigarettes. I am talking 1960s.

[@TheTruthlady]

!!! Thought provoking! I wonder where they are today?

[@fastmovingwaters]

Grew up in the sixties, seventies and eighties and I think we got along just fine. Were there a few bad times? Yes, but overall being in the Italian, Polish, German, Irish, Black, Red and White city of Buffalo NY we got along just fine. Stop the nonsense. By the way I’m a 100% Italian Christian. 😬 I wish I could ask that first guy why he dislikes Italian Catholics.

[@JR-zm2yu]

You said Christian vs Catholic, correct?

[@fbaallied]

Who's "we?"

[@fbaallied]

@rhonnachurch6929 "all cultures?" You're being very ambiguous. You're a White person living in an all-white American community talkinh about"'we all got along."

[@chito127]

@@fbaallied Looking back, I knew what a melting pot was. Now, it would be called a salad bowl; I didn't know better.

[@fbaallied]

@rhonnachurch6929 That first paragraph proves you are living in delusional white privileged existence.

[@SaccoBelmonte]

They're all beautiful people in my book.

[@walterdavis4808]

Thats interesting how they are working out real issues when the issues where real and today civility has left the building on the issues that should no longer be needed to be discussed .

[@joeburly]

The only reason these people discussed this civilly is because others were in the streets protesting. The same or similar issues exist today and people like you not listening is the reason for unrest.

[@walterdavis4808]

@@joeburly I am very interested . But some issues are not currently relieve issues for discussion . To say blacks can't get ahead after Obama served 8 years as president , there are members of Congress and many mayors of major cities , generals and admirals in the Navy ... Is not a currently relevant topic Why the inner city schools are a mess is very relevant .

[@walterdavis4808]

@@joeburly in the 89s I did slum rehab work in inner cities and community projects . It was great work with great people for great group of people . For all we did , the one thing that was missing was building commercial buildings to provide jobs for the people . With no jobs the cities continued to spiral downward.

[@joeburly]

@@walterdavis4808 huh why didn’t they build any commercial buildings?

[@MicahScottPnD]

Walter and Joe, your discussion, id love to sit in a room with both of you for a thorough exploration! Very worthwhile topics, if you ask me. As it is, we're all probably 1000 miles away from each other

[@mathiasniemeier4359]

I am still learning how to use this pad PLEASE excuse my mistakes. 😊

[@derekchevron2491]

Dave we need you and your documents like never before. You bring out relevant content that reveals TRUTH underneath the veil. You remind me of Harold Davis Jr of The Butt Naked Truth. Thank You for your patriotism.

[@WilliamAlanPhoto]

These young people are pretty self aware, and quite eloquent. They are all lucky enough to have affluent parents who can send them to college, to expand understanding, and yet... all the prejudices that existed then, are still prevalent today.

[@KittyGrizGriz]

We are all from the same, Race = Human. I’ve known many people to be racist and can’t stand it, don’t know if it’s more prevalent in the Bible Belt?? Any thoughts on the matter would be lovely.

[@wtffrank]

Interesting that Hoffman fails to mention the loss of free association in the process of applying civil rights legislation