Why Expect Any Different?

[@MetikalMan]

Rosenqvist x Malukas is a very solid lineup for MSR.

[@bartsullivan4866]

Would like to see them back on the podium especially Rosenqvist who is a pole machine but just can't put it together for the whole race.

[@f1videowatcher939]

If they left it on peacock only, then it would've been bad. They gave it a TV option despite the day's issues.

[@ptl2007]

NASCAR should've been switch to CNBC

[@f1videowatcher939]

@@ptl2007 NASCAR is the number one USA motorsport, by many rankings. They have priority over IndyCar.

[@ptl2007]

@@f1videowatcher939 Nah, after hour 4 hours it should've switch and NASCAR's needless "competition yellows" (which I hate) didn't help either.

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

​@@ptl2007no kidding NBC has owns a channel like SYFY but they don't use it for anything else other than for Wrestling.

[@joelbrooks3198]

​@@f1videowatcher939That shows how stupid the American people are.

[@ThomasWCarpenter]

I don’t care who gets an advantage but it’s a bad rule. With rev limiters employed there is no reason to close the pits unless entrance or exit has cars or debris obstructing things.

[@TheeGlocktopus]

When a team owner owns the series and the tracks, you should be concerned about who gets an advantage... This was a Penske driver who got the benefit.

[@atakmediaphoto2486]

Last year there was a similar circumstance with Rosenqvist I believe

[@TrevorPhipps-vw6kr]

@@TheeGlocktopus ok well your pretty dumb if you. Think that is true sorry but I really don’t think they would do that when the same driver got a win taken away for a stupid penalty that they can’t prove

[@bcschneider53]

Boy do I miss NBCSN...I have my concerns about Fox Sports but I am very much looking forward to this NOT being an issue from the 500 onwards next year...

[@adammartin5809]

Versus was so good

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

​@@adammartin5809yep the intro music for Versus was so good.

[@miketwotwenty]

Yeah NBCSN getting shut down was a big mistake!

[@ericmarchesini4883]

I feel like the biggest L was the NBC broadcast that it was similar to the 2018 INDYCAR race at Sonoma but nonetheless I thought this race was better than September. I was at Watkins Glen this weekend where it was hot on Friday and Saturday and then I got soaked with Robby Noonan on Sunday where I had to leave early due to the rain/thunder/lightning. I do miss NBCSN and I wished they never left after 2021.

[@lylejames8828]

To be fair, not only have channel changes happened on NBC before this announcement and on other networks as well, this is also EXACTLY why a strong streaming option is desirable. The days of worrying about channel changes for either watching live or hoping your DVR follows along were horrible days that no one needs to go back to

[@brianmurray7980]

+1 Anyone with Peacock got the entire broadcast without issue. GL doing that with Fox next year.

[@danielhresko4900]

How about Peacock going to a commercial break on LAP FOUR?!?! Told me everything I needed to know about how NBC felt.

[@anthony0358]

Thank you Kevin Lee for doing a great job. The green flag dropped on CNBC at 631pm

[@jimmcpherson4240]

David if you'd rewatch the pitstops that everyone is bitching about, there was several cars pitting before JN pitted. I agree the yellow should of been as soon as the incident happened. As for NBC get use to it, it won't get any better.

[@SuperZero0ne]

As much as I love the on site race reporting, I am gonna miss the live commentary next race. The DL500 Club live commentary races are best.

[@hikaruk.981]

At this point, as far as strategy goes, you have to look at what Palou and Dixon are doing, and then hope to find a way to outpace them on the final pit stop.

[@prof_kaos9341]

Kiwis can fly! (The kiwi is a flightless bird)

[@frankbieser]

The real problem is Penske, in that Penske doesn't know how to market entertainment. The failure in the sim racing world really stands out (at least they realized their mistake and returned to iRacing, the thing that saved Indycar's bacon during cv19), and now the handling of the move from NBC to Fox sports has clearly been bungled to the detriment of Indycar. Andretti may have been right that Penske needs to sell the series to someone who knows how to properly promote the sport. And besides, a team owner that also owns the league is always going to smell bad.

[@TrevorPhipps-vw6kr]

I disagree. Indycar has done but go up since Penske taken over

[@frankbieser]

@@TrevorPhipps-vw6kr Has it? From what I've been hearing, viewership numbers and track attendance have been falling for a few years now (with the exception of the 500).

[@ChefBourgeoisie]

@@frankbieser they renovated the bathrooms at Indy though... (edit) and built the victory lane lift

[@professorlarrs]

It was not the first time NASCAR used rain tires. It was the third time. First at Wilksboro in 2023 then at Richmond this year. CNBC picked up coverage right at the green flag.

[@ericwendlandt7808]

I was watching the broadcast. I only heard it was going to Peacock. WTF

[@professorlarrs]

@@ericwendlandt7808 NBC announced during the NASCAR race that CNBC picked up coverage at 6:30. They cut off an episode of Shark Tank when they did.

[@tolldoll1007]

Wet weather tires, not rain tires.

[@TheeGlocktopus]

CNBC lmfao

[@GrandpaShark]

He said it was the 1st time Nascar switched to rain tires in the middle of a race.

[@warphammer]

Quaternary is the word you're looking for. My reaction to the 3-way wreck was "Days since last 78 car drama: 0. Again."

[@F1jones]

Yesterday's NBC broadcast with Kevin Lee filling in for Leigh Diffey was great. Let's keep that broadcast team at Fox.

[@MetikalMan]

No doubt, they were so professional. Leigh is toooo loud. Lol

[@danielhenderson8316]

I'm still holding on for a Bob Varsha return.

[@thejman3489]

It was good but Leigh Diffey brings the energy. We kind of heard some of the other broadcasters trying to fill that role but ultimately just wasn't as good as Leigh Diffey.

[@nickhill934]

Seconded, did a good job. Leigh Diffey seems like a good guy and is, without a doubt, meticulously prepared for his broadcasts, but…I’m sorry, he’s just too damned hyper. It’s a long race, I think you gotta know when to just let the action breathe a little.

[@JOHANNESwhoelse]

Except for Bell. For each time he's knowledgable, there's three times where his commentary is absolutely insufferable.

[@joeyager8479]

The reason Ganassi and Penske win most of the races is that they currently have the best strategy and adaptability. Their drivers at good at both all out or fuel save. Throw out radios, spotters, real time info and multicar teams and it would be a lot different.

[@naparacingfan9275]

The FOX deal makes a ton more sense now.

[@NawnyaBusinaz]

Not really unless they have a streaming option like Peacock.

[@graylonsestak4803]

@@NawnyaBusinazdon’t need a streaming deal if every session is on cable tv + replays on KZbin

[@naparacingfan9275]

@@NawnyaBusinaz Venu Sports the ESPN, TNT, and FOX streaming option is supposed to release this fall.

[@johnbarker5009]

I'm also a NASCAR fan, and I was furious when NASCAR held the channel for a 2 1/2hr rain delay. At the time I was positive the New Hampshire race wasn't going to restart, but still.

[@DannyRicBobby]

@@graylonsestak4803 I don’t think you realize how much cable is actually dying, streaming is on the rise, I don’t remember the exact numbers, but they were pretty jarring from what I remember. Also, Fox has treated NASCAR horribly in their coverage there. They see it only as a place to broadcast the early part of the year before the NFL. I’m certain that they will have a similar attitude and horrible production on the IndyCar side.

[@zilentzap]

I agree so much with you, I'm tired of people implying IndyCar benefiting Penske, when Josef came in the pits I felt like "ah shit here we go again"

[@GordoFabulous]

I may have missed it, but I didn't see any indication on the NASCAR broadcast of where the IndyCar race was being shown. I didn't find out about CNBC until the race was over. (Fortunately, I have an awesome cable system and could rewind to the start of the race.)

[@paulj.ingram2839]

This was the best Laguna Seca weekend since before the Split. The helicopter shots of the Monterey Peninsula were spectacular. The grandstand was full enough to not look embarrassing for the broadcast. I was there and attendance was a third more than last year. Just a crime that so many casual viewers did not get a chance to stumble on a very attractive broadcast.

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

2018 IndyCar Sonoma all over again

[@flyingphoenix113]

Man, I miss Sonoma. I wish Indy alternated between Laguna Seca and Sonoma (since they're so similar) or put them at opposite ends of the calendar.

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

@@flyingphoenix113 imma be real. Sonoma was so boring. It’s a boring track in general for any series. A snoozer of a track. If you like it, that’s fine. Laguna Seca is just honestly way better

[@bartsullivan4866]

@@flyingphoenix113 I'd go travel to that for sure if they did.

[@Daveybird]

@@flyingphoenix113Hilly California road courses. Kinda like asphalt off-road racing.

[@GaryWagers]

Indycar made a great choice by moving the restart line after the final corner. Last year they couldn't even take the green flag half the time because the whole field would crash in the final corner trying to get a jump. Driving standards this year were far better than last, and that one change was responsible for most of it in my opinion.

[@AlexRosendall]

People are in for a rude awakening with FOX if there’s ever a rain delay with NASCAR before an Indycar race on the same channel. Any network will prioritize NASCAR due to the ratings. I don’t think the FOX deal had anything to do with NBC’s decision making. They would have made the move to prioritize NASCAR regardless

[@ryanfraley7113]

Fans need to learn where FS2 is on their cable system, satellite, or streaming service.

[@modasher]

It won't be that big of an issue. FOX Sports has 14 races next year but only 5 will air on FOX. The other 9 will be on FS1. If anything's going to get affected, it might be the UFL. If there's a UFL game after an Indycar race that's been delayed then it might push them to shorten the post race coverage.

[@chrisguardiano6143]

@@modasher from what I have been reading, the UFL is currently in talks with NBC & CBS about creating a third package for games next season, meaning that some games that were on Fox this season would be moved to this third package or be moved to ESPN/ABC so that Fox can accommodate NASCAR & Indycar. In basic terms, the UFL is trying to increase the number of broadcasters it has without having to resort to streaming. Since NBC is likely going to spend a ton of money to regain the NBA, this third package of UFL games is likely going to CBS since apart from the PGA Tour & select UEFA Champions League games, they don't have any major sports from April-September when the NFL & college football starts up. This is especially the case on weekends during the summer in which they don't have the PGA Tour.

[@bartsullivan4866]

Sadly I believe your right on the money. If there is every NASCAR and Indycar going on at the same time and NASCAR goes on rain delay I think the same thing is going to happen on FOX.

[@danielhenderson8316]

Incorrect. The IndyCar contract with Fox is for all of the IndyCar races will be in Fox and has already been built to where NASCAR will be in FS1 for any conflicts while Fox has NASCAR.

[@PJBlick]

Didn't even knew this race was going on... But the 6 Hrs at The Wat was lit! I was able to catch it on Twitch! Crazy race with the weather issues causing havoc!

[@thejman3489]

I didn't even think to look if IMSA was going anything this weekend. I was too caught up with Pikes Peak. Bummed I missed The Glen.

[@PJBlick]

@@thejman3489 Pike's Peak was going on this weekend? Was it shown live online somewhere?

[@prof_kaos9341]

Why have F1, Indycar & now endurance on the same day? I predict more divorces

[@thejman3489]

@@PJBlick Mobil 1 youtube channel. They streamed it live. It is kind of hard to find since it is not streamed by the official Pikes Peak youtube channel.

[@Phil00484]

Great race. Always amazed on how durable these old DW12 cars are to allow for off track jumps.

[@w.arnold8806]

There must be some crazy photos out there, especially from Lundgaard jumping down the Corkscrew :)

[@zachbishop5421]

Romain has looked great this year let's be honest hes been wrecked out of the top ten twice and he's still having a good year

[@tubesoupio]

But he's still kinda a tool LOL

[@davidius74]

Usually by someone who should not only have been given the 5 minute stop penalty during the morning warmup but should be booted from the sport. What he did weaving across towards Romain could not only have damaged both cars but could seriously have injured both drivers and any debris with wheels flying off could have gone into the crowd injuring or even killing innocent spectators. Crashtino Suckucci has the worst haircut in all of sport and is also very dangerous in control of a high speed vehicle. It is not only Romain he has hit in the last year or two but other drivers too.

[@FobiddenMexican]

I’m really hoping the hybrids mix up the field a little bit. Tired of seeing Penske and Ganassi wins over and over. Also the caution rule is absolutely ridiculous and absolutely hurts the legitimacy of IndyCar. I’ve also never understood why they close the pits to begin with. It makes sense in multi-class racing but I don’t see why IndyCar needs it, maybe I’m missing something though.

[@PaperBanjo64]

I remember when literally every car in an IndyCar race had a legit shot of winning races, I'd like to see Andretti and McLaren win some.

[@zeropoint216]

That's why I don't cheer for teams in Indycar. It's not an even playing field when some teams have 4 cars and others have 1. I'm a Dixon fan. I strongly dislike Palou. This isn't Formula 1 where teams matter much more to me.

[@JamesJozef]

The shakeup won’t last long if it happens. Penske and CGR are the best organizationally/have the best personnel. Only a change in that hierarchy will shake up the standings long term.

[@danielhenderson8316]

​@@PaperBanjo64Every car still does have a chance of winning races. The problem is only certain teams have a chance to win the championship.

[@schwarem]

KZbin TV is usually good at figuring out schedule changes, but it gave up and didn't even record the IndyCar race, so I missed it.

[@Getitonwhenucan]

Me too. Only I have Hulu and it didn't record the race. It did record the post race show though. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@jacobshelor419]

On the caution procedure, there's 2 options that I think work best. First, copy NASCAR and close the pits with the caution, allow all drivers to pit under caution, and if an incident happens where a car is stopped in a dangerous position (really anywhere), immediate caution. Option 2: copy F1, allowing for local yellows if needed, but a full course yellow gives all drivers a free stop option, then sees the pits closed.

[@charliepalmer3244]

I didn't even realize that the race was *interfered with on USA, I got that $20 a year Peacock... (currently available)

[@jamesward3622]

I just really started watching indycar this year. I grew up watching nascar every weekend with my dad and have continued. I stayed on peacock yesterday when nascar came back on. It's a better on track product to me

[@tylerensminger]

Be very curious how much of a wildcard the hybrids will be

[@ChrisDoutre]

This is my first time watching your channel. It's great stuff; thank you. I am very impressed with your analysis of the race. And of IndyCar. One point I have not seen discussed is that Palou was in the danger zone for a few laps. There is no question that he deserved the win, but an untimely yellow could have really hurt his track position. So, I think it's fair to say that luck did play a role in his win. In effect, he gambled, and won. The other thing that really impressed me about this race was that there were no lap 1 collisions.

[@richieb74]

100% nothing burger with newgarden getting the pit before the caution. This has been the standard for years. The pit is left open and everyone is given a change to put before the yellow. This has happened for years. People just want to shit on Penske. It’s not like they win every year or something. Ganassi wins far more and get nothing but love

[@ScottChristensen-t9g]

I agree and as pissed I was about it, the rule has got to change. If there is a caution, there is a caution and if you get screwed by it, too bad so sad. Either way someone gets screwed/someone benefits

[@timford3599]

Well, you know what they say? Nobody kicks a dead dog. I don't know how so many fans didn't see this kind of reaction toward RPR anytime they win or appear to get a "Lucky" or, worse yet, a "Favorable" call. Haters gonna come out of the woodwork and cry FOUL! The Penske term "An Unfair Advantage" does not mean "Cheating." That is not how R.P. operates. (I'm not even a big fan but, you got to, at least, be realistic.

[@prof_kaos9341]

Agree, yellows always favour some more than others. FYI, am a Gnassi supporter over Penske

[@billware6793]

Chevrolet-Penske are cheaters.

[@theBusterMan215]

It would have been fine if the yellow was thrown once Newgarden fully exited pit lane…. He got a free pit stop that put him from 11th/12th into 2nd. Total bullshit and certainly lots of bias from race control

[@cawcdad]

What sucks is that I set my DVR to record the race so I could watch it again after going to the race. I have done this for every race I have gone to, as well as some other sporting events I have attended. Now I can't watch the race and see what happened on the back side of the hill.

[@richardsilvestri6874]

I know this has nothing to do with the subject. I’m sending all the positive energy I can muster to the Legendary John Force after his horrific accident!

[@richardsilvestri6874]

75 years old and an over 300mph impact can never be a good thing

[@PaperBanjo64]

​@@richardsilvestri6874I just hope he's OK, he's had an amazing career, if he didn't race again he still has his race team and I'm sure he'll be at the track as long as he can even if he isn't driving.

[@herewegoagain7403]

insane to me that a driver can spin out on the track, facing the wrong way.... no immediate FYC but instantly flags it when a driver stops in pit lane.

[@Robertsonian]

Rossi falling back was disappointing especially when it became apparent that Herta had no juice for Palou at the end. Palou is unreal at times but I'm def tired of seeing him win at this point.

[@PaperBanjo64]

Same, and I really don't like him that much especially with the contract BS

[@agamernamedwill2585]

Yeah, I think Rossi just got stuck with the dirty air. He had a hard time passing once the pit sequence was over. I think he was faster then herta just burned off the tires trying to get to him, plus the fuel saving didn't aid him either. Probably could have won if he didn't have to deal with the pit road traffic that left him behind herta

[@danielhenderson8316]

The good news is we're about to hit 6 oval races where he's never won.

[@PaperBanjo64]

@@danielhenderson8316 heck yeah, and Newgarden will win some and TKO his points lead!

[@noah.s95]

Rossi mentioned on his podcast they had much better relative pace running hard than saving fuel. Also, Chevy fuel save isn’t as good as Honda

[@purwantiallan5089]

Laguna Seca is very suitable for everything including track actions.

[@mntwst]

Palou did not make an extra pit stop. He made three just like most of the field...

[@noah.s95]

He did a green pit stop later when everyone else pitted under yellow slightly earlier than desired, creating fuel save situation for herta and Rossi

[@InfernalKnight2448]

It was a good race. I am a NASCAR fan normally but watch imsa, indy, f1 and nascar. Indy had the best race overall in my opinion.

[@Saxdude1984]

I'm one of those 'Kiwi fans from down-under'. The 'yellow flag' rule Indycar has, has driven me crazy ever since I started watching Indycar in around 2018. I know Americans like to do things differently, but I do find it very frustrating, that for street course and road course races, an incident at say Turn 5, can't just have the safety car collect the drivers at Turn 1 (or whatever the first turn is after pit lane exit). I find that a rather simple concept. For the ovals: there's no choice there; once an incident occurs, it must be full course yellow and 'thou shalt not go to the pits until we allow you to!' must be the rules, for multiple reasons. But for the other courses Indycar drives on, it should just be localised yellows, allow the drivers to get their pit stops done if they want to, and everyone piles up behind the safety car. As a non-American, the whole 'thou shalt not go to pits due to safety reasons over the yellow' is rather silly, as that actually causes safety issues in pitlane as the ENTIRE FIELD rolls through pitlane at the same time as a result. Anyways that's my rant on this: I very much dislike how an entire race can be won because a driver 'won the yellow flag lottery' by pitting at a different time to everyone else. Kinda like Lando Norris in Formula 1 this year, when the Formula 1 officials managed to make an absolute mess of the safety car picking up the lead driver.

[@thejman3489]

The tracks are a bit smaller here. Having a local yellow you would either have to make it very small or it would take up about 1/3 or maybe even half of the track. Realistically there are only a few courses big enough to do local yellows and it just isn't worth the effort for those few occasions.

[@I_Evo]

​@@thejman3489Then have a Virtual Safety Car, slow the whole field down around the whole track, especially when all that needs to happen is a car needs re-firing and/or turned away from a barrier.

[@danielhenderson8316]

​@@I_EvoYou'll still have issues at the smaller tracks like Detroit with cars already out under a VSC. Thankfully, the hybrid is going to allow cars to refire after a stall so local yellows can work as designed.

[@marty0063]

This yellow flag rule adaptation is newer. We’ve been watching for a few years now, and I still remember some of our favorite drivers for a race getting screwed by a yellow and learned to deal with it. It’s just racing. That happens sometimes. Then within the last 3-4 years it seems is when this started to change. I definitely don’t like it, but at least this time Newgarden blew his chances from the lucky advantage he’d gotten. Not anything against him. I jus5 don’t like how he had gotten such great track position out of it.

[@saleen367]

The Newgarden being allowed to pit, then throw the yellow and coming out into the field in 2nd was a terrible look for IndyCar. I even said out loud, there is no way that can be correct. IMO that was the biggest red flag of the day. It needs to be changed even if it leaves some teams at a disadvantage.

[@richieb74]

First time watching?

[@MowersNBlowers]

Cheaters will be cheaters, from last place to 2nd! Bullshit

[@don7680]

Just get Peacock if you're a real fan. It's cheap and you can watch practice & qualifying too, whenever you want in 1080P. Way better picture than cable which is 720P resolution. Cancel at the end of the season if you don't want to continue.

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

or piracy, which is free

[@danielhenderson8316]

I'd be fine with Peacock if the ad free tier had an ad free race instead of cutting to black at random points. Or at least had side by side.

[@calvinkatt662]

Peacock is great and the price is very reasonable. I'm really sad that IndyCar is leaving it at the end of the season.

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

@@calvinkatt662 all IndyCar races will be on FOX next year. No cable

[@calvinkatt662]

@@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT I know. But for practice and qualifying, you will need either cable or the new expressive VENUE streaming service. From what I've heard, one month of VENUE will cost more than Peacock did for the entire IndyCar season.

[@westrx7]

Indycar TV ratikngs? Seriously? Peacock wasn't available to me, and there was never a mention the race was going to CNBC. I just hope NBC doesn't screw up the Olympics as bad as they handled the Indy race.

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

Except there was. I think with about 10 minutes before the start of the IndyCar race NBC said on USA that the IndyCar race would be on CNBC at 6:30 pm. Pfft

[@DG-wu7ke]

IndyCar has had recent success. I think it is because of good racing. They actually found a package that works with different engine manufacturers and produces close raceing with loads of drama. It has generated multiple paths to a win when the second half of the race unfolds. Making a TV Network change will be difficult, at best. Now, making an overhaul to the powerplant rules simultaneously is aggressively ambitious.

[@sparkieT88]

I didn't realize they were changing the cars mid season. Why is that? Why not wait until the season is over? Seems like it could have an impact on drivers , like favoring ones style over another's. It feels like changing the rules half way through the game.

[@rexthewolf3149]

Because Indy doesn’t know what they’re doing.

[@Rearmostbean]

They didn't have the tech ready and didn't want to wait the whole season to launch it Bizarre but it is what it is

[@timford3599]

@@Rearmostbean True That!

[@chuckpierce3084]

They said Indy car was going to be on CNBC, By the time I figured it out and found CNBC I missed the first two laps. Didn't get the last three hours of the IMSA since I don't cough up for the FFFing Peacock.

[@pastorearl1]

Thanks David for that review. Now I understand why my KZbin TV thought it had recorded it but instead all I saw was episodes of Law & Order😢. Agree with you on nit throwing the yellow flag.

[@johnthefalcon2903]

I have Peacock but I was pissed at NBC for moving the broadcast (though I understand why they did it from a business standpoint) so I streamed it on Indycar Live with a VPN.

[@fchrisgrimm]

Set it for anywhere but the US?

[@johnthefalcon2903]

@@fchrisgrimm there's a list on Indycar Live. I prefer Switzerland. The speed seems decent with it.

[@JeffSherlock]

I have hated NBC's use of onscreen graphics since day one of their coverage, especoally with thew soundeffects. I try to concentrate on races and cannot.

[@luciushilliard6352]

Anytime a Penske driver gets something to land their way, the fanbase will be frothing.

[@BradleyAnderson-mw5dd]

The Newgarden yellow was ridiculous. In the past they have had the drivers complete their yellow cycle and not thrown the yellow until the last driver to pit had exited the pits. It was especially bad since Newgarden was the only driver on that particular strategy. He made the mistake of staying out and was gifted a free stop, fresh tires, fuel and moved up to the 2nd position. To me if it warrants a FCY, it should be thrown as soon as possible for the safety of the drivers. Thankfully Josef made a couple of big mistakes after that - which diffused a lot of the tension. Can you imagine if he had won!

[@JOHANNESwhoelse]

Newgarden slowly becomes Indycar's version of Homelander.

[@thomasbroker69]

My jaw was stuck open for a long time, I’ve never not liked any INDYCAR driver until his post cheating interview, then things like this happen, it was bordering ridiculous, they left the pits open just for Newgarden..WTF..thankfully he messed up if he had won I would have flipped out.

[@ramblinman4197]

Newgarden was not the only driver who took advantage of that yellow delay. There were other cars that came in.

[@djobe420]

​@@ramblinman41973 cars running 14 place on back..... So let's just let him jump 12 positions..... I've only ever seen them allow the drivers cycle through the puts when the entire pack is coming in. Not 3 randoms running mid pack

[@BradleyAnderson-mw5dd]

@@ramblinman4197 May have been one other, none in the top 10

[@KPDigitalTravel]

Top notch content as always. I am really nervous about the move to Fox. Peacock has been lifeline for me because I moved to Vietnam two years ago and even though I have to get up in the middle of the night, I have watched EVERY practice, qualifying, and race. I hope to be in Nashville for the finale but am afraid that it may be my last IndyCar race. If there is not a reasonably priced way to stream the series after this year...I will be gutted. I love IndyCar but don't plan on moving back just to watch Fox broadcast. 😥

[@Marsman512]

NASCAR guy here. I hate what NBC did for you guys this past weekend. Since the NASCAR race was the one I wanted to watch and it was the middle of the three races this weekend, here's what I saw. IMSA guys got screwed over too, at least a little bit. I normally tune in about a half hour before the NASCAR race starts. I tuned in this time to see three hours remaining in the Six Hours of the Glen and that coverage is gonna move over exclusively to Peacock to end the race. Why? Why bother to put the start of the race on TV if you're not even planning to show the end? I didn't think this was the worst thing though. I don't pay attention to IMSA often, usually only the Rolex 24, so given my limited knowledge of the league I figured everyone knew well in advance this race wasn't ending on USA Network. Still a bad move in my eyes to schedule it like that from the get go, but oh well. Next was the NASCAR race at New Hampshire. For the most part the broadcast went very smoothly in my opinion. And then the rain came in and red flagged the race. Eventually it was brought up that IndyCar was supposed to be on next, so I wondered how that would play out. Then they announce that the coverage that was supposed to be on network television was going to stream exclusively on Peacock. WTF! It's raining, NASCAR's humming and hawing about their next move, at least show the start of the IndyCar race while we're waiting. But no, they wanted to show the end of last weekend's Iowa race. All the while there's nothing on the screen indicating what's happening to the IndyCar coverage. Eventually they announce one time that the race will be on network television after all, and it'll be on CNBC. But still nothing on screen saying where the IndyCar race is. More Iowa replay, and eventually NASCAR gets going again. The IndyCar race is never brought up again on the NASCAR broadcast. Not out loud, not in text on the screen, nothing. If I'm a casual IndyCar fan and just tuning into whatever race happens to be on the TV guide, I'm really confused right now. There's no way it's on NBC's finance/money channel, right? I really wish they were more persistent with their reminders that IndyCar was on CNBC. Maybe some scrolling text at the bottom of the screen. I also wish that they would have showed the start of the race on USA Network until NASCAR sorted themselves out. They could have had the IndyCar commentators say something like "For those of you that tuned in to see the IndyCar race at Laguna Seca please change channels to CNBC. For those of you wanting NASCAR please stay right here. We'll be back here after the conclusion of the NASCAR race in New Hampshire." TL;DR: Although I'm a NASCAR fan, I hate what NBC has done this weekend. It was a disservice to IMSA and IndyCar fans, and I would have been fine giving up some coverage of the rain delay to see the start of the IndyCar race.

[@sward0483]

Idk why there's even any questions bout grosjean. Dude was fantastic early on with Dale coyne, and he's been good so far this season. He struggled with andretti sure, but the fact he doesn't struggle the same way with now 2 other teams.... leads one to question what it was with andretti that caused problems? Even rossi wasn't very good with andretti outside maybe his first year with them. Does coyne run Chevy engines? Had a thought maybe it's the Honda package he didn't gel with

[@v10mclaren]

I think the real frustration with Newgarden is, anytime we have to explain an odd call or no call from race control, it’s something that benefited Newgarden. No one else is consistently in this position. Not saying that I agree with the conspiracies or that I think race control is wrong. But it does seem to happen a lot.

[@Fluffster93]

FYI when you discussed CNBC, I think the word you’re looking for is “quaternary” (I just looked this up).

[@cookinginthedark6768]

Rossi pulling that 5 second lead had me flashing back to 2018. Lame duck NBC also had me flashing back to 2018.

[@94nolo]

was looking forward to the finish after the NASCAR race. was greeted by some BS tv drama show.

[@DuddleBug5]

USA Network cars to much about law and order which over 72 percent of Motorsport fans don’t care about

[@DuddleBug5]

Over 72 percent of Motorsport fans probably don’t care about law and order

[@todd.sherley]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Newgarden just get lucky timing with the safety? Just as happens with every other racing category?

[@codymoe4986]

The announcers recognized this immediately and made notice of the precedent that IndyCar has already set.... Turns out, everyone here either missed the broadcast or were deafened by the PENSKE demon, screaming in their ears....

[@beezball]

Grosjean should have the most baked in experience in hybrid charge/deployment strategy. It'll be interesting to see if he can capitalize on it.

[@theBusterMan215]

If they wanted to wait to throw the yellow, Indycar should have waited until Newgarden had completely exited pit lane… but nope! The broadcast was showing his onboard and they literally threw the yellow the moment he hit his pitbox. That is a totally biased race director trying to benefit his boss’ team. Sorry, but that’s the truth. Bring back the rule from the 2000s where a full course yellow is thrown whenever the accident happens

[@FlyinBlaney]

Rosenqvist going from P3 to P11… MSR have no execution.

[@docmcdonald9311]

Matter of time before somebody gets hurt when Indy car delays yellows. Kinda like NASCAR when the raced back to the start finish line.

[@braedenh6858]

Oh there was a race? I tried to watch but it wasn't on tv. I turned it to where it was supposed to be but all I saw was a bunch of colorful boxy-looking cars driving in circles.

[@whoasked9500]

I mean it was on cnbc but yeah Indycar got fucked

[@MotorSport33-f5u]

Serious disrespect on nascar

[@kawai99100]

The entire race day was confusing for me.

[@NASCARDAWGYT]

How to know someone isn’t a nascar fan without them saying they don’t like nascar

[@calvinkatt662]

@@kawai99100 I don't get only running the first half of the 6 Hours on TV? When it was time for the NASCAR race, why not move the rest of the IMSA coverage over to CNBC?

[@kicapanmanis1060]

Surprised David made no mention of Haas keeping one charter on this channel. Like not even a short quick video about it.

[@2speedy4u22]

The problem with the discretionary timing of the yellow flag is it’s open to way too much interpretation. If the race genuinely needs to go yellow, it needs to happen immediately. Doesn’t help matters that when they delay it, it always seems to benefit Penske (ie McLaughlin at Barber last year). To eliminate the favouritism they need make their rules black and white and follow them. It’s when they start winging it that it goes bad. (Ie changing the number of laps after yellow to warm tires at Indy).

[@joedfd43]

Hey @david and other Indy residents. I’m visiting 2 Saturdays in late July. Is the museum open and are there ever any bars or any place fun to go to watch the race/qualifying in town?

[@nancymcgee4776]

Nothin but love for J New at my house! ❤

[@terrylessmann2274]

Bummer. I had no idea Indycar was shown on cnbc. They only said peacock and I don't pay for that. Why couldn't they have run a crawl saying something. I watched NH thinking it would only take them 20 min to get 40 laps in. Of course that didn't happen with the circus that is NASCAR. But a quick announcement or a simple crawl could've / would've been appreciated.

[@FIA-F1]

They literally race in rain in a freaking OVEL!!

[@1CreativeRider]

We watch on Peacock; coverage was perfect as usual.

[@I_Evo]

A subscription service and you still get incessant commercials is far from perfect. US motorsports fans and the US sporting public in general accept a very low bar when it comes to sports coverage of live events.

[@stunter2875]

Holding the caution flag will come back to bite IndyCar one of these days. Someone will end up getting hurt because of the stupidity. You should NEVER chance safety. Its just not necessary or smart

[@chasefollett4107]

David I could listen to you yap about Indycar all day. ..well, maybe not all day, but you get my point.

[@CodyDockerty]

I'm just annoyed all those yellows happened just as Dixon was about to go on the surge past Kirkwood

[@mwdrum]

Indycar Radio Network is the best, that’s how broadcasting should be done. If you haven’t listened, you don’t know what professional commentary is. (Mark Jaynes - Davey Hamilton and crew ) It’s not the screaming big mouth Diffey. Will Powaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

[@zeropoint216]

IMSA this week delivered a plague unto my house. Allow me to elaborate: #33 (literally the only LMP2 I cared about) crashes out #55 Mustang out Iron Dames Lambo out #65 Mustang out Gradient Racing Acura finishes last (non-DNF) #4 Corvette Winward Racing goes 4-4 and Porsche wins again, beating the #01 Good thing I was at Laguna Seca, or I would have been very unhappy.

[@atakmediaphoto2486]

I wish we had a live timing replay available so we could dive back into it and see how much josef really benefitted. While watching the live timing during the race after palou and Grosjean pitted he was at least 1 second a lap faster than either. Grosjean was only a few seconds down the road so he would’ve come out in at least 4th in front of Grosjean and maybe in front of Rossi and Herta depending on how long he stayed out and the gaps. But again without a live timing replay it would be hard to figure out from rewatching peacock

[@DeMichel93]

okay, so what is Peacock? is it a streaming service? I do not live in the US so I don't have any info about it.

[@chadbuckley3162]

I’m glad it wasn’t on TV ! Y’all know they pushed for that certain car to win. Glad no one got to see that

[@Maverick33]

I just hope the hybrid tech doesn't turn it into F1 Light

[@karenperdue4879]

I wish we would have known it was on CNBC we don’t have Peacock and we wasted all that time waiting on the rain delay of the NASCAR race. We didn’t see a single thing at the bottom of the screen that IndyCar race was going to be on CNBC Glad they’re gone next year

[@ramblinman4197]

I only found out it was on CNBC because someone watching on Peacock told me

[@karenperdue4879]

Just goes to show you what other people have said INDY Car it’s going to be treated like a red headed step child for the rest of the year Good riddance

[@ptl2007]

NBC should have switch to IndyCar and move NASCAR to CNBC. 6 hours for a race is ridiculous, the "competition stoppage" NASCAR seems to love to do didn't help either.

[@Noman1010-nh6uh]

Ain't no way people gonna watch, that channel, Nascar is way popular.

[@ptl2007]

@@Noman1010-nh6uh Yeah, but 6 hours for a race is ridiculous

[@gameshowe7975]

CNBC picked up the start of the race. Only the pre-race items weren't picked up on CNBC. They did announce the CNBC switch on the USA Nascar coverage.

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

Yep I remember hearing it with about 10 minutes before the IndyCar race actually started too.

[@bartsullivan4866]

The race was exciting but ended just the same with a Gnassi or Penske winning it. I had hopes that Kirkwood or Rossi could have pulled off a big win, even Herta for that matter but ended up just being Palou riding off into the sunset again. The TV coverage was complete BS with my local USA station only showing NASCAR rain delay and then Law & Order ridiculous. Not even a ticker to say the race had been moved to Peacock. Kind of like when Fox showed nothing but infomercials instead of the Daytona 500 not mention of a rain delay ticker anywhere. No idea Leguna race went to CNBC just total BS.

[@noviranger88]

Supercapacitors are the way forward. We’re going to see POWWWWAAAAAHHHHH!

[@bryonmahler3806]

The fact that IndyCar was on CNBC was not a surprise under these circumstances. Preferring NASCAR events over IndyCar events has happened for years. For example, NASCAR was at Texas this April and IndyCar was not. Therefore, this was not evidence that NBC has checked out on IndyCar. However, did anyone notice that every commercial on CNBC was a full commercial break and not side-by-side?

[@mjgallagher8367]

Even when they knew that they weren't coming back to USA, they certainly should have/could have told everyone that they were running it on another cable channel....

[@carlsaganlives6086]

Sad to see Graham morphing into Marco..

[@danielhenderson8316]

Father time catches up to everyone, and he's almost reached Graham's career.

[@johnthefalcon2903]

I think Indycar needs a F1 style virtual safety car option (on road / street courses) for the situation we had with the Armstrong wreck. Ideally in that scenario, Armstrong stalls, go virtual safety car, let the drivers get into the pit under the VC, BUT maybe have a 5-10 second penalty for pitting under the VC since the driver doesn't have to do an out lap (so driver doesn't get an advantage but it doesn't totally kill their race either like it would if they were to get caught out), then go full safety car; and do the restarts like normal.

[@austinskirvin01]

CNBC picked up Indycar coverage just before the green flag, so the whole race got on TV, albeit not on the correct channel

[@MetikalMan]

No more wave around, and eliminate the arbitrary closing of pit lane!!!

[@ptl2007]

Newgarden benefitted with these rules back in the 2023 Indy 500 also, Ericsson got screwed out of repeating as Indy 500 champion.

[@SchumiFan92]

I watched it start to finish on Peacock, no issues. Streams don’t get delayed cause of NASCAR waiting out the rain

[@BillyBob-sx6hr]

The whole yellow thing depends on the severity of the yellow If it’s a big shunt instant yellow Can’t judge a yellow on where cars are in the pits It’s a good luck bad luck thing Don’t make too much out of it

[@stuartkinzel8195]

I DVR the races because I can't watch them live. When I got home late Sunday I queued up the recording to watch the race. Only I didn't record an Indy Car race but a NASCAR race. DAGNABBIT! Probably not possible but it would be nice if a race gets moved to another channel, the set up recording could follow.

[@Lowlife-North]

Why whats wrong with nascar?

[@stuartkinzel8195]

@@Lowlife-North Nothing, except I was wanting to watch Indy Car

[@scottmcdonald399]

LOL. NASCAR was on first. Rain delay pushed it back. Its pretty common, and normal to do this.

[@TrevorPhipps-vw6kr]

I remember a time when Indycar got the priority over nascar so Indycar fans can’t complain unless they wanna be ignorant and just want to complain

[@davidgray1515]

As it always should be.

[@pizzalover7254]

If I remember correctly, coverage began on CNBC right before the race start.

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

Yep it was on a pace lap before the actual start of the race.

[@DeMorcan]

I watched the whole race on Peacock. USA with NASCAR was on in the background. SInce I watch Peacock, I never noticed a difference.

[@ptl2007]

I too have Peacock, but if the race is on network tv, I prefer to watch it network tv because it's easier for me to channel surf.