DaVinci Resolve + Fusion Tests on the M1 Pro MacBook Pro

[@magblogs]

Thank you so much for making this video. There is a huge demand right now for motion graphics content in fusion now that resolve is more accessible. Thanks for taking the time to share some tips with us really appreciate it

[@DETEKTOREN-SHOP]

Do you think a M3 Pro also do a Great Job for Davinci ? Some people say that the M1 Pro are better ?

[@diegolcase]

exactly what I was looking for, thanks for sharing!!! great vid!

[@RyanOsborneUK]

Glad it could help 🙂🙏

[@skrumb]

There's no bloody way you always post what I'm thinking of

[@RyanOsborneUK]

Great minds my friend 👀

[@AntiNomad]

You got yourself a new fan ! Thank you so much for your thorough content. Don't be discouraged that you're not at 100k subs yet. I promise sooner than later you won't even be able to find my comment.

[@RyanOsborneUK]

Thanks Yasha! 😄 glad it could help. Not discouraged at all, I just enjoy creating new videos and tutorials and hope they can help.

[@rano12321]

Fianlly some proper Fusion tests. Would love to see some Fusion VFX tests and playback of the built in Fusion templates in the Fusion page. Also, I'm not sure if you did this or not, but you can right click and turn on "Render cache fusion output", that speeds up the Fusion cache process a lot.

[@TheColleenDabeanShow]

Thanks for this review. I'm taking a remote job for the winter so I need to take a laptop with me if I want to keep making videos (I do), and I believe a mac book is pretty much my only option for having something that doesn't leave me feeling like I'm under a pile of sandbags.

[@rajstories3693]

Amazing video Ryan, really wanted to see this thing. 😀🙏 Can you please make more Fusion Tutorials, as I just loved the way you animated stuff in the video, I just get confused when the number of Nodes increase in the project, your way of explaining will definitely help me to understand fusion more. Thank you.

[@RyanOsborneUK]

Glad it could help 🙂 more fusion tutorials on the way my friend!

[@KevPez-IS]

Excellent! I’m looking to get a MacBook to edit in the future and I was specifically looking for fusion info…any decent laptop can do basic video editing but this is what I needed to see.

[@baptistedescamps8154]

Thank you

[@aaronmellon2359]

Wondering if you have been able to try the same things since you posted this vid with an M1 Max and 64GB ram? Off chance someone in your circle has one. This machine (m1 pro with 32GB) is certainly better than mine, but that rendering time is what I want to get rid of. Wondering if the M1 max can do it and if I should shell out the $$$. Many thanks for doing this fusion specific vid.

[@bsv_za]

Thanks for making this video. I also do all my motion graphics in fusion. Curious to know what your thoughts are about Fusion vs AfterEffects for motion graphics. Can't seem to decide a winner. It seems to me like AE is faster both in terms of how you input things and rendering. Fusion seems like it's better for more complex projects where various different items are interrelated. Not to mention the native particle system and 3D environment.

[@RyanOsborneUK]

Hard to say, depends on what you’re doing. After Effects only introduced their render engine a few versions back. It hasn’t always been as speedy as it is now. But yes, Fusion could do with a bit more improvement in that area. I sort of view it this way: After effects is an amazingly powerful tool, highly specialised and great at what it does. Fusion gives you the building blocks to create new tools. The ability to create macros and templates for reusing later is 🔥For that reason, I think Fusion wins (for me anyway). I’d love to see Blackmagic prioritise Fusion updates in the next Resolve release.

[@bsv_za]

@@RyanOsborneUK the biggest reason I use Fusion is because it's so well integrated to the rest of resolve. It makes it faster to take a whole video project from start to finish. As a standalone program, I'd like to see some innovation with the UI and shortcuts. Simply stacking 2 clips on top of each other in AE is a much faster process than in Fusion. And there are other examples.

[@oluwaseyiojo4414]

Thanks a lot , this is helpful , Fusion is a pain on my current i7 macbook.

[@EditorPerezoso]

Hi Ryan, very helpful your videos I am watching them all. Could you do a tutorial of the presentation you used?

[@totoroutes5389]

👍 m1pro longer battery duration Vs. the m1max (additional $250) less chance of drop frames during preview. I'd prefer the latter.

[@dzyanw]

I really hope they make fusion lighter so we can better use laptops to work on these projects, I've just been waiting with upgrading my laptop for a year or 2 now because I don't see any large improvement jumps in fusion work :(

[@mariotriforce]

Have you tryed with vfx connect clips to fusion standalone, also might be better to use the shape tools as that should be accelerated 🤔🤔

[@RyanOsborneUK]

I haven’t! Thanks though, I’ll check both of those out. I know a bunch of folk like using fusion separately for better performance. Is this what you do?

[@mariotriforce]

@@RyanOsborneUK 😉, if I did use fusion more I probably would a bit of both 😂, I'm not the biggest mograph person 😉

[@yann-davidakpa7635]

what would be better ? open CL or Metal ?

[@eduvivan2562]

Sorry for the lateness, do you sometimes wish you got the M1 Max instead?

[@RyanOsborneUK]

I wouldn’t wanna compromise the battery life. It’s amazing on this machine and not quite as good on the max. So no, not really. Though on occasion I do have to wait for things to renders. Usually pretty speedy though

[@JustinHiggins]

The colour gradient on those books tho...

[@RyanOsborneUK]

😂 Good eye.

[@uncleanAlibertine1]

great bro

[@ThiefOfBoredom]

Have you had any trouble with exporting fusion compositions? I could make a 6 second composition in 3D and it will try to take 3+ hours to render. I have the 14in 2021 M1 MacBook Pro - 16gb

[@adityachaudhary554]

Do you think m2 mac mini, 24 gb ram would able to do 4k editing and some fusion text animations??

[@RyanOsborneUK]

Yes 👍

[@adityachaudhary554]

@@RyanOsborneUK thanks for guidance

[@imiy]

Why to edit in 4k timeline??

[@RyanOsborneUK]

Just to stress test the machine 😊

[@IntelligentoSanket]

Better to use "Render In Place"

[@RyanOsborneUK]

Yeah this works too 👍

[@sadiqandnature]

Im not a heafty video editor but my current PC is restricting me from trying heavy edits on davinci. Thinking to get M1 Max to future proof as I don't want to invest in PC for next 6years. What are your thoughts?

[@RyanOsborneUK]

I haven’t tested the max but from using the pro, it handles video edits a breeze. If you’re doing heavy video editing, the max will do well. It may even be overkill… My only pain points have been heavy fusion motion graphics work and noise reduction. Same as in the video, you’ll need to let that stuff render 👍 once rendered, it plays back no issues and most stuff renders pretty quick. Hope that helps 🙂

[@sadiqandnature]

@@RyanOsborneUK Thanks Champ. Definitely helpful response

[@rodrigomacias]

BMD needs to optimize fusion. That's the only thing I miss from After effects

[@RyanOsborneUK]

Yeah I hear you. Apparently they did with 18… but seems like they could still improve things.

[@loudmotion5639]

i think apple lacks raw power, thats why its so slow, even with optimisation ,its still going to be super slow...

[@tomaszbejnarowicz]

what is heavier 1kg of steal or 1kg of feather

[@RyanOsborneUK]

😂 they’re both a kilogram. Unless you’re Limmy.

[@Altek2k]

Is there any advantages to using Divinci resolve on a mac over a windows laptop?

[@RyanOsborneUK]

Supposedly it’s optimised for apple silicon 🤷‍♂️ but I guess it would depend on what laptop you’re comparing it to.

[@BillySoundFarm]

I'm editing with a 2019 MacBook pro 16. The only thing I want to do that this machine won't do is run magic mask automatic people tracker on a talking Head video that's 40 minutes long 1080p. It tries to do it and maybe if I gave it to 7 days it would get there but that wouldn't work for me anyway. ... I'm torn between a base model M2 MacBook pro 16 and an M2 max mac studio. The only reason to do the studio is because I'm afraid 16 GB of RAM won't be enough to run that magic mask. If I did the studio I would only use it for magic mask and then use my old laptop for the rest of the edit. ... ... Will the base M2 MacBook pro walk the dog with magic mask?

[@RyanOsborneUK]

Really hard to say dude but I used to use a 2019 mbook pro and upgraded to this one. It’s been vastly better and more reliable. Magic masking 40 minutes of footage is a tough ask of any machine though. I’d ask yourself if there is maybe another way to achieve the same effect? If your shot is static, could you not use normal masks and some Hsl keying?

[@BillySoundFarm]

@@RyanOsborneUK The only thing I thought of to make it easier is splitting up the shot into clips so that it's not all 40 minutes all at once. These are church sermons and for some preachers I could get away with does feathering out a zone in the middle but a lot of these guys get really frisky and walk all over the shot. ... If it was 4K footage they were giving me I could zoom in and lower the resolution and use the auto reframe tool and basically have the shot following them around and then get away with feathering the middle. ... Or these guys could just fix their lighting lol 😂

[@BillySoundFarm]

@@RyanOsborneUK Your reaction tells me that a reasonable person would not expect the M2 pro-chip with 16 GB of RAM to do this. I think what I'm going to have to do is just buy one and make sure I can return it and if it doesn't walk the dog I'll have to return it. If the studio won't do it then I don't know what to do I'm not doing anything bigger than a studio. Thanks so much for your help!

[@RyanOsborneUK]

@@BillySoundFarm sounds like a difficult edit 😂 all the best with it my dude. I’m sure the m2 won’t disappoint

[@RemcoJvGrevenbroek]

on (my) pc the cache rendering is on the color page almost twice as fast!!

[@RyanOsborneUK]

That’s awesome! What spec you using?

[@RemcoJvGrevenbroek]

@@RyanOsborneUK what i meant to say is that somehow the rendering is faster on the colorpage then on the editpage or fusion fusion which is weird

[@RyanOsborneUK]

@@RemcoJvGrevenbroek ahh I see. In my experience that’s pretty normal :) fusion gets a bit more graphics intensive

[@RemcoJvGrevenbroek]

@@RyanOsborneUK I mean cache a fusion conp in the colour page. Make a fusion comp go to the colot page in stead of editpage and pres start

[@RyanOsborneUK]

@@RemcoJvGrevenbroek ohh… okay! That’s strange. I need to try this one 🤔

[@loudmotion5639]

Do you think resolve could handle 4k 10bit codec with at least 1 noise reduction node, 3-4 parallel nodes and one CST or lut at the end without proxy??? I love to colorgrade and its sad if i cant use my noise reduction on m1 pro...its a deciding factor in a sense lol

[@RyanOsborneUK]

I use 4K 10 bit codecs all the time with multiple parallel colour nodes and this machine doesn’t struggle with them. I haven’t actually used much noise reduction though. Let me run some tests and I’ll check back with you here 🙂👍

[@pencil2936]

@@RyanOsborneUK would be great to see your test result

[@loudmotion5639]

@@RyanOsborneUK Thanks a lot for your response, I always use a little bit of noise reduction since i shoot raw and its not denoised internally by the camera...and seriously i saw some reviews of the denoiser and was shocked how its so slow but they were pushing the NR settings to some extreme level too which is a bit unrealistic lol. Okay plz let me know good SIR ^^

[@RyanOsborneUK]

So I've run some tests. I don't shoot raw and I don't do a lot of heavy colour grading but I'm using mostly XAVC-S 4k 10bit H.264 from the Sony A7siii (no proxies) and everything works perfectly fine. It seems like I can add endless parallel nodes and it will still play back at 25 fps. I won't lie to you though. As soon as I add NR, then it slows to about 2-3 FPS. It struggles and the only way I can get it to play back smoothly is to select "Render Cache Color Output" on the edit page and let it render. It'll play back at 25fps once it's rendered. I want to do more extensive tests so I'll upload a video showing my findings as soon as I can for you guys.

[@loudmotion5639]

@@RyanOsborneUK oh wow, never thought u will actually do the test Ryan ! THANKS ton. Yeap that's what i was scared will happen... NR was optimised for gpu usage and on my nvidia rtx3070, I can easily get 18fps without any playback caching or resolution halving. Does that also mean having a basic small fusion animation on top of a footage will make everything go slow? Maybe I should think of something like having the Nr in the timeline node tree or something... 4k 10bit is normally heavier on the processing too than braw. Btw was your timeline at 4k resolution and always have your nr node as the first node, it reduce the processing and also allow for better color keying/selection :) Anyway thanks tons man, maybe I should go with the studio instead, I will still be able to be mobile but at a reduced capacity :)

[@VictorEdemSetordjie]

At a point, I was wondering if it was my m1 that was just falling behind….. considering I use a lot of motion graphics and I had the wrong corrections, thanks to all the KZbin hype. Those motion graphics lagging is a very accurate representation..

[@RyanOsborneUK]

I prefer to be honest with these things!

[@caribemediaproductions2236]

Thank you, great video, i have the M1 Max. I am rotoscoping in fusion on a 4k raw image, kinda need good playback to see if the scope follows the footage. Its not going smooth on my macbook M1. The mask is not updating always and I need to click a corner of the mask every time for it to update, and sometimes the mask is updating but the background image is not (stuck). Is there a way to make this work?

[@RyanOsborneUK]

Thank you! It totally depends on the image you’re working with but… sometimes I find starting from the middle of the clip (rather than the 1st frame) is better for the magic mask (if that’s what you’re using?). Then you can work forwards and backwards to complete the rotoscope.

[@diamondpeakstudios2610]

I'm only getting about 3 hours of battery life out of the m1 pro 32gb when editing on davinci - only half a year old - should I get it serviced?

[@RyanOsborneUK]

Hmm… that seems a bit low. You have the 16 inch yeah?

[@diamondpeakstudios2610]

@@RyanOsborneUK yeahp, 32gb m1 pro 16" 2021 model

[@RyanOsborneUK]

These batteries don’t stay good forever and it totally depends on how graphically intensive the work you’re doing is… But it might be a good idea to get it serviced, yeah. Not an expert but if you’re going from a full battery to dead in 3 hours, I’d say that’s on the short side. The one I have is getting a good 5 - 6 hours when editing on the go.

[@MrNury]

Hey bro , greetings from Greece Komotini. Nice video. I want purchase an apple m1 or m2. Can i get the project file. I want test on my pc. My system Spec.. Intel 12th 12900k Gigabyte Aero G Motherboard 32 Gb ram Gskil. 2 x 1 Tb Gigabyte M.2 SSD Coolermaster 750w Coolermaster pl360 flux Water cooling 2 x Samsung 27 inch 4K monitor.

[@RyanOsborneUK]

Hello there 👋 sounds like a beast of a set up. Leave it with me, I’ll see what I can do for you!

[@xaratemplate]

100% screen brightness on the mac you’re going to ruin your eyes. I try not to go past 50% brightness as it hurts the eyes.

[@johnprivate6625]

The only thing that makes the m1 pro 16” heavy in the hand is that the surface finish is too slick. And some vinyl grip tape and it feels light. And yes the battery life is impressive. The simple addition of an iPad 20w charger and spare MagSafe or USBc cord to your camera bag will make it travel proof. The 140w charger is nice but so heavy, and mostly unnecessary if you travel between destinations with power points.

[@RyanOsborneUK]

You’re totally right John. It doesn’t feel too big to me. I’m definitely getting a smaller charger soon for travel though