Aliexpress vs Best Buy Gaming PC Pre-Built Showdown

[@johnwood7283]

I don’t understand why more reviewers aren’t using the Dawid scoring method, it’s obviously superior in every way!

[@bierrollerful]

The scoring + editing at 4:04 had me wheezing

[@samholdsworth420]

Sus!

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

I think I should patent it.

[@Gato.Lol.]

@@DawidDoesTechStuff yeah you should sell it as a commission

[@paulmeyer1001]

"it looks like the kind of PC a librarian has to kick to turn on" is an AMAZING metric for reviews

[@giganticjasper5604]

The fact that the ASUS system was $1000 is actually mind blowing. Those are some truly abysmal specs for that much money.

[@jersen5085]

For 1000$ I can build a system with 3060 in it

[@jdwilli88]

The fact that is was in sale from 1400 is hilarious

[@iitzfizz]

@@jersen5085 For $1000 dollars you can build a system with something way better than a 3060 in

[@The_10th_Man]

Do they think they’re Apple?

[@Detlevboi]

Canadian dollars...

[@Podzall]

dawid single handedly keeping the prebuild pc space profitable for the OEM's again, so its just dawid

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

I really hope I’m the only one buying them. 😂

[@mattd5240]

😅

[@djcvmusic1]

​@@DawidDoesTechStuff I what cheap/good GPU you recommend I know there RX580 but should I go for RX6600 ? Thks

[@zepda]

@@djcvmusic1 go for the rx 6600 is alot stronger then the rx 580 the rx 6600 is like a rtx 3060 and the rx 580 is like a gtx 1060 6gb

[@Runescape12345]

​@@DawidDoesTechStuffwhat do you do with the prebuilds after?

[@Rza0-z4s]

Normally you hold the RGB button down for around 3 seconds to switch between case controlled and mobo controlled.

[@sL1NK]

Exactly. Standard for all the argb sync capable devices/cases/hubs etc.

[@commander3494]

How are you going to motherboard control molex fans (unless they have a seperate rgb connector and i missed it)

[@mew2.025]

Really? I need to try that.

[@Rza0-z4s]

@@commander3494 Some cases come with the controller, some don't. My case came with a controller and works like that. My desk is plugged into my mobo and the RGB works the same too.

[@samholdsworth420]

Nope nothing was connected

[@DaddyMoogie]

Also, Dawid single handedly convinced me to not buy a pre-built and build my own PC for the first time. Been running on it for a few weeks already and am so happy I did.

[@slob12]

Well done...once you have taken the plunge you will never look back .i built my first pc back in 2003 purely because i had no choice.A friend had sent me unwanted computer parts which i flew over in my suitcase when i moved to sweden....always nerve racking the first build but it gets easier over time.....nope.....still have every pc built from 2009 onwards....i truly regret getting rid of those that came before....i would love an old retro gaming rig but wont spend money on one now

[@MxMoondoggie]

It always amazes me when a motherboard manufacturer makes a prebuilt and somehow give it a terrible bios. That was an actual choice they made when they manage to get it right on even the most budget motherboards they have.

[@zbrkesbris5987]

Its more of an Intel's fault: Up to 11th gen only the highest/most expensive Z-series chipset allowed for overclocking (including memory) and definitely not on non-k CPU. 12th/13th gen CPUs and motherboards had some of the restrictions on memory overclocking (xmp profiles) lifted.

[@Vinterloft]

2933mhz is the limit of Intel B- and H- series motherboards

[@realfeils4655]

@@Vinterloft correct my cpu is i5 10th gen and b460m mobo and im locked at 2667mhz when my kit is rated at 3200

[@RandomBovineFeces]

had that bios on previous motherboard, ram change is very easy to find, feels like he didnt actually look.

[@alangarde2928]

To any advertisers reading, Dawid is genuinly the only Tech KZbinr whose sponsor spots I don't skip. Keep paying him for his craziness!

[@Zach1987usa]

love that you click the mouse during fan sound comparison. Thanks for the frame of reference!

[@MorgoSargas]

I’d like to protest the power button test results. For me the ali button sounded waaay better, like a proper button, while asus sounded all cheap and plasticky.

[@kadrix732]

Whaaa? No way, the ali button sounds cheap af while the best buy button sounds really thonky and good!

[@11matt555]

@@kadrix732 Power button on the Ali computer has satisfying travel though.

[@ntro9347]

my thoughts exactly

[@somebodystolemygoddamncarr520]

​@@kadrix732 the best buy button reminds me of those old mcdonald toys. buttons like those are wobbly and not satisfying

[@azure3438]

best buy button will most likely stuck and you would cry as you can't shut down the computer ever again as you can't press the power button to turn it on😂 (Speak from an experiences with similar type button that got stuck and must punch the PC to make it work)

[@BjorfRodriguez]

i love the use of mouse clicks as a point of reference for the sound level. really puts the noise into perspective. great vid!

[@Halterung01]

Do the best buy clerks think you eat the PCs every time you enter and buy another one? 😅

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

They must think I’m a hungry boy.

[@shaneeslick]

😂

[@kirby1225]

exquisite taste in food. (not in computers though)

[@Houtka86]

Besides hilarious these videos are actually the winning argument for why you should build yourself

[@Oreo-kq6ov]

Now do a third video where you build a PC with the same budget

[@ridingflats]

No way the Best Buy power button is better, I hate those ones lol.

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

It just shows how rough the one on the other case is. 😅

[@armedhyde1448]

Fantastic video as always! Thank you for attaching Canadian prices, very few Canadian content creators actually bother..

[@SquintyGears]

It's not that they don't bother. It's that the CAD price is a conversion from USD and it fluctuates. While the USD price is actually MSRP (usually a 1:1 for euros too). It just makes more sense when in 2 weeks there could be a 20~100CAD difference. To be clear it's just never in our favor because we don't have a massive population/market.

[@Diablo-jt4tv]

WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY McAfee is still a thing???

[@Luca_Natoli]

I thought they died off years ago, apparently not.

[@DLTX1007]

Intel owns mcafee so... it's not going away anytime soon

[@dudewithtimestoppingability]

You would be suprised when u see all lenovo laptop comes with pre-installed mcafee

[@mr.cookie8265]

a friend of mine still uses avira

[@samholdsworth420]

Why is any antivirus still a thing? Lmfao

[@turkishstig8489]

Look at my boy throwing references to BMW M, good to hear you are a car guy

[@colourlesssky2754]

This was just like the old days of watching top gear.. comparing things and in the end there is no result for a winner 😅 perfect keep it up

[@swagthebeast6001]

when you have alot of RGB it gives gaming boost :)

[@volvo09]

E peen goes from 🍌 to 🍆

[@Moochi4]

Rgb life's matter

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Exactly! 😂

[@JHXmas9001]

It's go-fast stripes, but for PCs

[@itsJPhere]

No, it's RAM. RAM gives a boost. Don't confuse RGB with RAM. Also you can just download more RAM. Nobody actually downloads more RGB, that's a myth.

[@Atari5732]

-300 points for preinstall McAfee seems more than fair.

[@AnnaDoes]

Definitely 😂

[@gregx5096]

Almost suspiciously underweighted, given how I have been unable to completely root it out of the gaming laptop I purchased semi-recently, even with the specific removal tool downloaded from their site.

[@TNHoWalfas]

@@gregx5096 This is why I clean install Windows after every time I get a new computer. It makes sure unwanted bloatware like McAfee is actually gone.

[@murry001]

its almost as if McAfee PAID BestBuy to include it o_0

[@Atari5732]

@@murry001 I can't think of any reason why it would be included, unless they were getting paid.

[@mswaney81]

My dad installed McAffe voluntarily. I awarded him -300 points and removed him from the family.

[@Shane76375]

RIP

[@Garrettdx1988]

It's about time a KZbinr comes up with a point system that actually makes sense

[@m3ntal_incgames848]

I can totally relate to the crappy BestBuy prebuilt. I have a similar model with an i5 9400f and a GTX 1660. The BIOS limitations are seriously crazy. I ended up building my own system around a year after buying the prebuilt though the prebuilt was a steal back then. Cost around 600 USD just a month before the scalper apocalypse hit back in 2020.

[@Sk00maPipe]

It is wild that the Ali Express budget box crushes the Best Buy box. I think everyone knew it'd be better based on visuals alone. The Best Buy system looks still very much like an office PC tower from the late 90s - late 2000s.

[@gennolli7315]

Would be fun to compare them both to a system you built yourself for the same price

[@atomicskull6405]

They would both loose, badly.

[@ottomcannick7698]

​@@atomicskull6405tbf, that is the point?

[@colestowing8695]

thank you 100% for adding the mouse click to the noise level test. It's impossible to get a feel for what it really sounds like normally 👍👍

[@gregx5096]

Dawid is the only video host where I don't skip the sponsors, because he keeps them funny. ("LinOOOOOOOOOde" 😂👍)

[@intraspec]

I love that you interrupted the sponsor segment to address how poorly the "drooling" looked

[@jeffreypaul9428]

Gonorrhea vs. Syphilis, can't wait!

[@TheSykoRC]

the story twist in the end was very satisfying. thanks.

[@harrisonmauldin5090]

7:59 that should be your new channel picture that facial expression is gold

[@tahjayulett8001]

I think it'd be very interesting to build a PC at the same price point and see how it compares to these pre-builts

[@adawg3032]

I bought a cyberpower from best buy once. It had a 3050, 12600kf, 16gb of XPG ram, an EVGA 600 watt power supply, and a gigabyte B660 D3SH UD motherboard. I paid 1150 for it, it was probably the better pre built PC deals i have ever seen. Came with a 120mm AIO CPU cooler too and a total of 4 RGB fans with a remote control for the RGB hub. Best buy does have some really solid deals sometimes, just gotta be patient and shop around for something really good. Pulled the 3050 out and plonked in a 3070 and gave the 3050 to my nephew for his potato PC

[@spacewoag4572]

for the first time, im actually rooting for the ali-express pc before watching this video

[@fierce134]

That twist at the end really shook me! I didn't see it coming at all

[@beanbag8020]

Just wanna say, Dawid you upload non-stop bangers. Like, every video is to do with something that I would do if I was able to and had the time or funds. Thanks!

[@SurferSandman]

Looks like a compute a librarian has to kick in the morning to get started!!! lol so good. Love you Dawid!

[@hotrodhendrix1]

I had a republic of gamers laptop back in 2007. Loved it. Still laying around somewhere

[@devinbaines]

-300 for McAffee is hilarious. I am laughing my arse off. Well played, sir, well played.

[@MrDethhollow]

Huge BMW person here. That's a harsh and 100% fair take there

[@joefell5311]

You do know you can bypass that Microsoft account by pressing SHIFT+F10 at the screen and type in the command window OOBE\BYPASSNRO and hit Enter and let it restart so you can choose limited setup, right? I hate Microsoft pulls that crap on everyone.

[@MobbDeep-Prod]

Yeah sure everyone knows that...

[@saberpv]

Great video! The world of pre-builts is getting turned on its head; used to be to get a decent system you had to go with name-brand. Now it seems the formerly-questionable options (Aliexpress? REALLY?) are coming into their own.

[@Isthatchicken01]

I felt like I just watched a Doug DeMuro review but with PCs. Love these comparison vids!

[@Secondvenus]

Here we go, the ultimate matchup! I was waiting for this.

[@mashrafiaziz]

The ultimate showdown

[@EJBert]

Dawid's WWE-style PC smack down!

[@TheGoatBeats]

Your obsession with Drachme is strong, i loved it too. :)

[@bigmind8508]

1st player brand is actually pretty good. I've been using their gold rated PSU for my 2nd PC for 5 years now and didn't have any problems with it.

[@laracroft8553]

I've been watching for a couple years now and finally gave in and ordered all the parts for a 1440 beast, 4070ti hope that was good choice and I7 13700k. This weekend I am going to try and update bios and install windows but so far it was fairly easy for first time pc builder after lots of studying that is.

[@johnszatkowski6898]

I have a similar ASUS system (AT LEAST CASE WISE) but mine has a Nvidia RTX 3060 and a Ryzen 5700G with 16Gb of ram and paid $1300 US almost 2yrs ago. I have since upgraded my RAM to Corsair RGB 32GB 3600Mhz for CAD reasons and upgraded my CPU to a Ryzen 7 5700x ($199 on Amazon on sale a year ago) which was quite a boost that I did not expect probably because of the PCIE 4.0 support the 5700G only supports PCIE 3.0 so my GPU and SSD's are slightly faster now. I am also overclocking the 5700X for even more performance while still air-cooling with a BE-QUIET cooler. As far a the BIOS goes mine has a ASUS B550 MB and does support XMP. The BIOS looked the same in the video so you may not be looking in the right spot. As you stated I too am NOT a fan of the case here but it was a pre-built and these were the best specs I could get at that time when prices were INSANE!

[@Celtic_Canadian]

Now you need to do secret shopper between Alienware and Starforge systems to see who is the true alien commander!

[@thomaslloyd815]

I have a pre built Asus Rog G20CE without a GC, and I bought my graphics card, a rtx 3070, and a upgrade with Corsair ram, and I love my system.

[@samright4661]

I don’t have a clue about Computers. I find your videos entertaining 😂.

[@dezusa]

-500 points for no ram options was waaay too generous

[@iamamucha2914]

I finally bought a gaming desktop and moved up from a 2018 msi apachevr that had a 1060 in it and an i7. I bought an ROG desktop with an i7, 3060 and 16gb of dual channel ram for around $1200 and there are some things I like and things that hurt me. The case is actually pretty great especially when I look at your channel. It has ventilation on the front, top and right with the left housing a panel of glass or whatever the material is. The dual channel is great and running that the 3200 it's rated at but the bios is basically the same as what was included in this one with little room to work with. The only bloat was myasus and armorycrate which were easy enough to get rid of. The huge issue I have is the power supply being 500 watts. I'm sure that's enough as it is 80 plus gold I believe but I really feel like I should upgrade that and I believe I actually can luckily though. I'm sure someone will say I paid way too much for it but I had circumstances where Best Buy wasn't the best buy but rather the only buy if I wanted to upgrade my laptop with no cpu cooler running at 90°c consistently. I was pleasantly surprised considering what I've seen you wade through.

[@PointingLasersAtAircraft]

Building a custom loop system with absolute bargain price water cooling components is a fun challenge and much more rewarding than expected.

[@TheManolis1984]

Odd reference to Drachmi there as a form of payment. Surely brought back some memories

[@peterbell7682]

Quality content mate, love the videos. Keep up the great work. Appreciate you getting me through my IT support role every day haha.

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

I'm so glad i decided to learn how to build and built my own PC.

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

Asus prebuilt really "blew" it. Got majorly "burned" in the benchmarks

[@SovietToaster]

Gotta love a nice Preventilation front panel!

[@marksaxon]

I would buy the Aliexpress system in a heartbeat if I didn't know how to build a system. If it just had a 5600x or 5700x, it would be a serviceable desktop for many years. The 2060 Super isn't great but I think the case and components are not bad. The 4500 kind of holds it back a little bit if anyone was to do productivity work on it. MXZ has a 5700 version for $979. They also have a 3060 Ti/1 TB SSD/5700 option for $1139. Not bad for a prebuilt. Sure you could build the same setup for about $800-900 but for it being prebuilt, it isn't bad.

[@skasaii571]

Up for a Battle Royale with all the Pre-builts he's already bought

[@TechOrigami]

Fighting fire with fire, are we?

[@CASPYBXL]

You make me laugh every time, ... this time with the Scalpocalips .... xD !!!! Jeeez .... Great video Dawid !

[@harryisawesome0420]

I had to pause the video when Dawid was checking the power supply and write a comment, does the Best Buy computer have a PS/2 connector for a mouse and keyboard?!

[@corgistaniel1150]

This is late, but it's worth noting that you can set the XMP profile in the Asus bios by pressing F7 to go to the "EZ Mode"

[@Durkeeon]

I live for pointless infotainment reviews. Best Tech Channel EVER!

[@TeenyMango2312]

Hey Dawid, thanks for the email It really made my day, I love watching this type of content, as you never know who's gonna do what!!

[@religionofspeed]

Wasn't expecting the BMW dig! Dawid a secret car boy confirmed.

[@MrBendoug]

The ROG system may actually be running it's RAM at max speed, I had a 10400 system with a B460 (?; is been a while) and the RAM speeds were capped by the mobo itself

[@covante4822]

Probably a b460, those didn't have memory oc unlocked. B560 did, it would be weird for asus to put an 11th gen chip in a 10th gen board when they are in the business of selling motherboards but that would explain why there is no ram oc option in bios.

[@RichWhiteUM]

That may be the case with their Intel builds but not their AMD ones. I bought one of their AMD builds during the start of Scalpergate and it was the only way to actually find a video card in my area. I was able to set XMP to the speed of the dual channel memory it had. I wonder if Intel has something to do with that? EDIT: I just saw the reply from Covante, and yep, it's an Intel thing. I had forgotten that Intel limited memory overclocking to the Z series boards at one time. If anyone wants the specs of that system, it had a Ryzen 7 3700X, 16gb of Micron 3200 MHZ memory, a GTX 1660 Ti, and a 500w 80+ gold PSU. The motherboard was an Asus Prime B550M of the cheapest variety. I forgot what brand the PSU was but it wasn't complete garbage. I still have it packed up around here somewhere. It also had much better ventilation than the Asus system Dawid had in this video and I was able to add more fans to it with a little light modding of the case. I paid less than US$1000 for the system through the US army exchange. For those that don't know what that is, it's the tax-free store that caters to the US army and veterans.

[@madmcrae]

Damn Dawid. You just keep getting better!

[@RobertLeev]

Great video! What watch are you wearing on your wrist?

[@AnnaDoes]

An old Soviet wound up :)

[@RobertLeev]

@@AnnaDoes thank you!

[@xaero7262]

If dawid would get a buzzcut he would look like a norwegian warrior ⚔

[@ciprianchiriac6677]

Check the xmp in the cpu configuration > overlooking settings

[@tqlla]

Its like Asus took the loudest components possible and put them in a small box. That cooler is loud, but that Chicony Power supply is insanely loud.

[@guycxz]

If you get that system on Ali, you should also get a 120x360mm magnetic filter and a glass breaker.

[@userbosco]

@5:00 the Ali-Gigabyte has 7 expansion slots. Not sure if that's a true indication it can actually be upgraded or expanded, but it's usually the case (no pun intended).

[@HunTaoLee]

Ryzen 4500 is PCIe 3.0 vs Intel 11th Gen PCIe 4.0. For gaming, it seems PCIe Gen doen't matter as long as it is 16x. For budget gaming (Australia), buying a laptop is more affordable. ROG Strix GA15 R5-3600X/16GB/1TB SSD/GTX1660Ti 6GB Desktop @ Harvey Norman is AUD 2399. A gaming laptop with Nivida 30XX is less than AUD 1900.

[@bdifferentb]

In Asus bios, the XMP option is right there on the main screen in EZ mode.

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

I’m looking at the bios right now. Unfortunately it isn’t, it’s not the standard Asus Bios. It just looks like one.

[@ValouFCH]

Not for Prebuilt, they give you a downgraded version of the BIOS where you can do basically nothing

[@bdifferentb]

@@DawidDoesTechStuff Oh, that's strange. I stand corrected then. I've never seen an Asus bios without it right there. Finding it in the advanced options was always nearly impossible. 🤦

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

@@bdifferentb I know right! It’s crazy to me that it’s not in there, but unfortunately it isn’t.

[@bdifferentb]

@@DawidDoesTechStuff I doubt it's worth it, but I wonder if you could flash a complete bios, then do it.🤔🤔

[@Lawthugg]

This should be the standard in scoring pcs. Yes the Dawid scale.

[@sayansahu1724]

best ever tech review show ever lmaoooo dawid never fails to make me laugh XD

[@lewiswalker3244]

Dawid, there is a fairly easy way to set up windows 11 without signing in with your microsoft account - when you get to the connect to the internet page press shift and f10 or shift fn and f10 to open the command then type in oobe\bypassnro then go through the setup process again and press i don’t have internet and connect it once you’re on the desktop

[@ValouFCH]

My friend has a similar Asus System, he bought a great kit of High Speed Corsair RAM and I was going crazy when I saw that you couldnt change the RAM speed in the BIOS

[@dyslectische]

Its have a hidden bios. Just look for how to unlock it . Pressing "A" while entering BIOS setting - after pressing your key to enter the BIOS setting (usually F1,F2,F8,F10,F12 or DELETE) immediately press A once. Look around your menus and see if something is unlocked. If you have a laptop with an "Fn" function key toggle try pressing Fn+Tab three times. Check for menus again. I read that it is possible you need to re-enter your BIOS settings before unlocking the menu, so you could also try to enter your setting once, pressing the combination three times, and then re-enter the BIOS settings Other common combinations, usually pressed while under POST to enter the BIOS: Shift+F1/F2/etc. ; Ctrl+Shift+F1/... ; Ctrl+Alt+F1/...; In laptops you could also try Fn+F1/.. or Ctrl+Fn+F1/...

[@esinohio]

I couldn't resist... I made an Underground Baby Battles t-shirt.

[@joeprobablyknows]

This is my all time favorite point battle because absolutely no one, not even Dawid, understands the scoring methods 😂🤣

[@RocketEightEight]

Dawid is the only youtuber whose videos I click without even reading the title.

[@TheDiner50]

Knowing Dawid your going to regret that one day. I can not really imagen how but this is Dawid we are talking about.

[@AnnaDoes]

Haha you are not wrong 😂

[@RocketEightEight]

@@TheDiner50 the only thing he can possibly do wrong is to start talking about politics. I accept pretty much anything else.

[@MoultrieGeek]

How did you get be quiet! to sign off on your promo spot? Their sense of humour must be on par with yours (and mine). Well done!

[@gmcanepa]

Gaddammit I recently upgraded all my fans and didn't go with BeQuiet solely because I have a white build.

[@RespekfulFungus]

That Hexagon lick killed me. 😂

[@princebanini]

Your commentary is absolutely top notch ❤😂

[@IcebergTech]

BeQuiet's marketing dept: "er, is Dawid saying people piss on our fans?"

[@arokh72]

I've always said there is no real reason to buy a prebuilt. If you don't want to build your own system, that's perfectly fine and understandable, but if you live somewhere with access to a PC store, such as PCCaseGear, Umart, MSY, Scorptec, etc in my region, then go for a custom built system. You get the advantage of picking the parts yourself, and usually with help from staff IME, and they'll put it together for you, and usually...hopefully, test it, before sending it out to you. A win win, IMO, if you don't wish to build a PC yourself. I find building PCs annoying and frustrating, so will go down that route myself for my next PC.

[@JeremyWertheimerScience]

No Dawid, that definitely didn't look like drool on the BeQuiet fans. Wow, just wow.

[@telepathickoala587]

I still can’t believe the amount of pre builts that seem to be engineered around preventilation

[@cdoe3395]

This man's hair is becoming more luscious with each ali express review.

[@Wooksley]

The RAM speed issue is Intel's doing as I recall. They famously stated that XMP is overclocking and therefore it isn't supported on non-K skew chips.

[@DJSammy69.]

Now you have to combine these two systems to make them better!!

[@Jessespresso]

Dawid, I'm not sure if you know but you can bypass the microsoft login for windows 11 with a few commands from the out of box menu :) just in case you wanted to avoid it in the future