DELL Did Me Dirty... RTX 3070 Dell XPS Pre-Built

[@WayStedYou]

followup replacing the cpu cooler and adding another stick of RAM incoming.

[@DJKr15py]

A front case fan wouldn't hurt either

[@martymcfly88mph35]

@@DJKr15py RGB case fan***

[@L337f33t]

Upvote for easy next video

[@echristi678]

Agreed. Show the small upgrades one at a time. First switch to dual channel, and show us the improvement. Maybe also the conversation with Dell about how they shipped not what you ordered. Then upgrade the CPU cooler and show the performance improvement from that also?

[@mkkohls]

Agreed, I'd get Dell to send you what you ordered. I'd ask about the cpu cooler too but that isn't guaranteed. Do it with dual channel and a non crap cooler to see how the case setup performed.

[@tbuksuperfly]

Reads 'dell did me dirty' - wonders how many warranties they sold him

[@errorcode503]

Same here

[@nicholasneyhart396]

About 15.

[@supertouring1]

I wonder if you go online, is there is less warranty upsells?

[@jaystein1405]

I like Dell Support for the most part

[@markiemarkmar]

Probably sold him all of them when he didn’t want any of them.

[@jeffreypaul9428]

"There was a problem with my payment method" - my wife is literally begging me to stop buying prebuilts.

[@samuelstephens368]

Pretty soon he will be divorced. Living in a cardboard box look at all his purchases:)

[@rhyzon]

@@samuelstephens368 sure, but it will be a RTX 3000 GPU cardboard box, which will be worth something.

[@tasnimulsarwar9189]

@@rhyzon and he might have inbox heating considering the cpu heat with that cooler.

[@NityaStriker]

Build your own computer like a chad !

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

She is getting trying new creative means to stop it. 😂

[@pointlessco.6363]

I love the office look, it’s kinda sleeperish. Don’t tell me you’d walk into a home and think the DELL desktop sitting on the IKEA desk had an RTX 3070 in it.

[@f86tune48]

🥱

[@briendownie]

that's entirely the point and why I would consider buying it!

[@arandomcommenter412]

@@briendownie There isn’t really any point to a “sleeper” pc, on par with all those rgb things.

[@thefpstester1293]

I do like the Optiplex style I prefer it over a matte black case anyday

[@prateekpanwar646]

@Lucas Gawor More like at 4K 120+fps

[@marcosmedia7463]

Dell's strategy: -1 Stick of ram *only* -Warranty

[@goodboy4105]

stonks

[@DoubleAAce]

Put the good stuff in the title and hide the rest.

[@JR-ef3by]

I got a acrer nitro 5 that was dual channel

[@marcosmedia7463]

@@jevonsuharnoko1679 hehe, it's the funny number

[@bigtik5233]

All about that “future upgrade capacity”

[@brentbeneky9762]

You are that guy, buying a dell prebuilt so no one else has to

[@vamwolf]

Better then a hp

[@DevinRAR]

@DIDIER MATEO RAMIREZ - ARCE I’d never buy HP computers for a business. They suck , their website is horrible, etc. Dell is the best you can get in a business environment.

[@jaystein1405]

Lmao. The things we do to get a gpu these days

[@pauliosantos6379]

they will still buy :(

[@nathanimes4041]

Truly doin the Lord's work, this one...

[@sasanmottaghipour876]

I would really like to hear the call to customer " support " to tell them the ram configuration is incorrect, and their respons to that.

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

I actually already did this video, I don't play the whole call but you do hear a bit of it. 😁

[@sasanmottaghipour876]

I've seen the rest of the series so far, oh dear xD

[@firegaming9672]

well dealing with big tech companies with policies and non sense i wouldnt be surprised to hear something along the lines of "its no problem all were going to need you to do is send the pc back and we should have it fixed and returned within 4-6 weeks" :)

[@casualmcztmc9989]

@@DawidDoesTechStuff link please

[@dawiddoestwitchstuff1128]

@@casualmcztmc9989 The video is called "So We Called Dell's Customer Support..."

[@5racing]

I personally love the minimalist look. When I get a PC I want it to look like a office PC aka sleeper

[@joeonyt196]

"i know it isnt a gaming system" *has a 3070 in it*

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Yeah, I'm not sure what this thing is supposed to be. 😂

[@zsoltpeterdaniel8413]

@@DawidDoesTechStuff I think it supposed to be a sleek office pc for engineers with the power for 3d modelling.

[@nathanmead140]

@@zsoltpeterdaniel8413 one of these graphics cards isn't needed for 3d modeling, a quadro k420 or a gtx 1080ti will do 3d modeling just fine with software that is actually good, my laptop from 11 years ago only had a nvidia quadro nvs 3100m in it (just a rebranded GT 218m with different drivers) it sucked at gaming but I could create high polygon models with thousands of vertex's and it didn't slow down until I got up to millions of vertex's.

[@DeadlyFredXXX]

Just get an Omen 30L

[@nadtz]

@@DawidDoesTechStuff Dell back when didn't offer consumer graphics cards in the enterprise systems, I think they have realized they can sell them to certain niche markets who will take the card out and use the system for other stuff or resell with another card which is actually smart of them given how hard it is to get a graphics card at the moment. Though I'm sure some will just leave the system as is as well.

[@truelink64]

When the XPS is less expensive than some scalper prices

[@hdoan1519]

If dell is cheaper then scalpers we have let the scalpers become too comfortable

[@PWingert1966]

Buy the prebuilt to sell the RTX 3060 in it for more than the original machine was bought for!

[@delectableangel1986]

@@hdoan1519 That's not necessarily true.. Dell gets deals for parts for the pre-builts cheaper than the consumer market. Scalpers have to rely on the consumer market being sold out of stock to make a profit.

[@randomfill4549]

So here: - Either fight scalpers - Or buy a furnace

[@wyterabitt2149]

Or spend the almost nothing extra for a decent cooler, meaning you don't have to deal with either. And if you watch the Linus video mentioned, there are a few prebuilts from companies that are all made from branded off the shelf products, extremely well made, cover with great warranty and servicing, all for less than you build build it yourself - or very slightly more (but more than worth it).

[@samuelstephens368]

@@wyterabitt2149 sorry what Linus video was he talking about?

[@tristanweide]

@@samuelstephens368 secret shopper 2 series

[@lilbitretro6377]

I mean...it IS winter time in North America...just sayin'...

[@samuelstephens368]

@@tristanweide ah okay ty I'm watching his xqc video now.

[@dienand_]

Honestly the interior of this PC feels like jumping through a time machine back to the early to mid 2000. This is what most of us had back then and how it looked (aside from some modern touches)

[@hansdampf2084]

Not everybody needs RGB bling bling. I have a PC to work or game with. If i want a lightshow, I also could go into kids theme parks.

[@kenkoarmada7674]

@@hansdampf2084 i mean rgb adds 30fps tho

[@kirby1225]

@@hansdampf2084 i assume he means the motherboard, and the interior does look pretty depressing.

[@kriminalnews7764]

@@hansdampf2084 leave alone the RGB, you can get a nice case and setup without fancy lighting, the airflow and the components are just utter trash on this PC man.

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

@@hansdampf2084 ok. mr.dell employee

[@Blaahb]

Me who thinks that the case looks nice as a non-gamer looking sleeper case: :(

[@outtheredude]

I look like an accountant and I approve of this wet dream case.

[@antonvoltchok7794]

Honestly it’s small, and the air intake design pattern is fine, if that case was just painted all black I’d have zero problems with it

[@miker953]

Plus he knew exactly what it looked like when he ordered

[@TheEcoronin]

I kind of like it with a fan in the front of the case.

[@icedgriffin4704]

yeahhh

[@lekmannen9990]

”And over here you have the CPU cooler equivalent of thumbing in a softy” that cooler will never mentally recover from that absolut savage put down.

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

😂

[@konkerz7380]

Best CPU cooler review....ever

[@mikep9418]

I just had to Google what "thumbing in a softy" means 🤣

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

@@mikep9418 Oh wow! I'm sure that was disgusting. 😂

[@jonathanhawranko2679]

@@DawidDoesTechStuff Now I refuse to, lmao

[@arushashwingo]

the guy who installed that single stick of ram be like : "HA HA I'm in danger"

[@scudsturm1]

hes living on the bleeding edge

[@zeroturn7091]

W

[@boiledelephant]

I've worked in IT for years now and I've never understood why the ventilation on OEM towers is so dreadful. They make some really neat design choices with cable management, board layouts and the like, but then they get stuck in the 1990s with a single crappy rear exhaust fan, a miniscule PSU fan and almost no gaps for air to get in. When the system's an i3 and integrated graphics you can understand, but when there's a high-end gaming or workstation GPU in there - which doesn't even evacuate rearwards - it just becomes baffling.

[@javajav3004]

more broken prebuilts = more money, true points tho

[@Teksers]

Please film yourself while phoning DELL and asking about your order with the memory mix up. I would very much like to know what they do in these cases when they fudge up.

[@apefish2266]

what they will say DEAL WITH IT you shouldnt have looked inside you need to pay for the 3 year extended warranty for us to help you

[@Jwellsuhhuh]

yeah exactly pretty sure they just fked up the order and put the wrong memory and cpu cooler

[@echristi678]

You don't have to look inside to know that though. Task manager shows it 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@rossmcwilliam3284]

@@Jwellsuhhuh the same thing happened to me with my alienware so i doubt they do it accidently

[@Teksers]

@@rossmcwilliam3284 False advertising and I think it's against the law. I payed for something and you give me something else plus this is not good for publicity and companies live of that.

[@michaelleeper3649]

This PC was clearly false advertisement and fraud.

[@RobertForslund]

Absolutely! I would NEVER have accepted it like that! If it's not as ordered, you should never accept it like that! Either get me the system I ordered or give me a refund, it's as simple as that! It is absolutely false advertisement and extremely misleading to customers. Just because they might ship these machines to companies that couldn't care less other than it can handle Excel or whatever does it mean it's okay to ship something that just isn't up to the specs that the customer ordered! 🤔

[@TheNightquaker]

@@RobertForslund Well, it's not really about it being okay or not, for Dell to mislead the customers like that. It's literally illegal!

[@RobertForslund]

@@TheNightquaker That's why they should face the consequences of their actions. Either return me a system that I ordered or give me a refund. If they wouldn't do either of that, I would file a law-suit against them. How far that law-suit would go I couldn't say, but still, they need to know that they can't just steam-roll people, or businesses any way they like and expect them to be happy with whatever they sold them! 🤔

[@darthrex354]

No Its a dell.

[@martymcfly88mph35]

They should send him another 16gb stick of that same RAM free of charge.

[@shade20x64]

You can't spell Dell without "L" Two "L"s, for that matter.

[@PWingert1966]

He-D-Ell

[@kjetilhvalstrand1009]

Well "I" and "l" looks almost the same.

[@maxheadroom22and26]

In germany we have a tv station: RTL. The q in RTL stands for quality...

[@JR-ef3by]

Two L’s make a W

[@rickierickie7831]

At least they try to make it good lol

[@ecksfiftyone8779]

Thank you! This is still relevant today. When ordering today, you have to do one or both of the following things: 1) Get the "K" model CPU, it comes with the better CPU cooler in the picture. 2) There is an option to upgrade to the liquid cooler for $50. I'm not sure about the ram issue.

[@notFoxils]

When Dawid finds out his house is prebuilt Five minutes later House: nonexistent

[@LowKDR123]

ahaha funny 😬

[@intelligence6900]

God that motherboard makes me wanna hug my pc and tell it how special it is

[@lenonkitchens7727]

You're not kidding, and I, unfortunately, have an MSI X570 Gaming Edge WiFi that I had to buy in an emergency from Best Buy. It's being replaced with a Crosshair VIII Dark Hero next month though. :D

[@haqd2340]

@@lenonkitchens7727 “unfortunately”

[@naufalzaidan3259]

@@haqd2340 lol

[@lenonkitchens7727]

@@haqd2340 Have you seen the reviews on that motherboard? I can confirm everything bad that ever been said about it. Not only does the VRM hit 100+C under, what I consider, light load, but rebooting only has about a 66 percent chance of success. The rest of the time, I have to sit there and twiddle the damn thing on and off again until it finally decides to boot. It's a horrible piece of shit, and a complete ripoff at $200.

[@intelligence6900]

@@lenonkitchens7727 👍

[@supremeasura3358]

wow straight up missing a ram stick, that's pretty outrageous

[@Tomazack]

I'm not sure what would be worse. 1x8GB ram where they forgot to add the second one, or 1x16GB where they completely ignored the order and went for single channel as per their usual shit machines.

[@kaaolin]

@@Tomazack a single 1x8gb would definitely be alot worse

[@zeroturn7091]

Guaranteed that the guy that did this goes over on his lunch break religiously.

[@stevedixon921]

The fine print for many pre-built's include some form of clause for 'substitutions'. You get the sum of what you ordered, not the specifics (so 1x16gb instead of 2x8gb = close enough in their world). I'd still take a poke at them for the CPU cooler though to see how they respond, that is on the dark side of dirty for a substitution given the marketing material (where custom/high performance does not equal oem boxed). You could make a case for 'inadequate' given the temps, especially if you can get it hot enough that it down clocks on a sustained load.

[@JabbaTheAmerican]

"Thumbing in a softie" is the best way I've ever heard Dell's business practices put.

[@Katrielle_Going_To_Quebec]

1000$+ prebuilt PC: *Has one stick of RAM* Dawid: Ah shit! Here we go again.

[@bohdankanicki2077]

Not going to lie, I actually liked the look of the case.

[@crispydakota13]

I also generally like more simple, understated designs. The whole over-the-top designs of some computers can be cool for some, but there is something to be said about a nice, minimal case that can slot in anywhere.

[@vlissblisskiss]

it's subtle i like that

[@bohdankanicki2077]

@ni6hant yeah I mean I'm grown (well sort of), I don't want my PC screaming "I'M A GAMER 360 NO SCOPE" at this point in my life.

[@Pipiundkakiinpipikakaland42]

I think the let down is that it looks just like a 300$ used dell pc bought from a company that no longer uses it for doing excel and ugly power point presentations. I literally used to have the same case 10 years ago.

[@anothersiguy]

Agreed, I think it looks great. Definitely inspired by the Dell Precision cases, which is a good thing

[@exturkconner]

I remember when XPS was like the premium gamer line for Dell. These days they just look like office PCs. Now the product stack is super confusing too. You have g5 for gaming dells but also you get some gaming XPS models and some gaming inspiron models.

[@jimmypuppo3965]

one of my first computers that i could get online with was a dell xps gen 4. i don't remember what graphics card it had but i was barely running tf2. lots of great memories with that machine lol. before that, I had a precision from the same generation with dual xeons but that thing would dim my lights as soon as I turned it on.

[@xroyalstevenx9151]

I thought the XPS was always a premium “workstation”. I have one from 2012 with a GT640, 12 Gigs of ram, and an i7 3770. It’s old but still runs tf2 and 2013 Tomb Raider like high settings, and Bioshock Infinite high. I can’t believe it’s been in use for 9 years now 😂

[@exturkconner]

@@xroyalstevenx9151 No they were never workstations they were gaming theme. The workstations were always the Precision line. Hence why your XPS has a gaming graphics card. I think when they acquired Alienware it changed the product stack. But now the entire dell lineup is kind of confusing.

[@HelloHi-eu5rk]

@@exturkconner I never seen a gaming oriented xps. I always thought dell’s alienware and g series was for gaming.

[@exturkconner]

@@HelloHi-eu5rk Dell didn't always own Alienware. Prior to that XPS was 100% it's gaming brand.

[@META313.]

In cases like this (easily fixable cases) you should fix things (in this case change the cooler and add second stick of RAM) and show us the actual potential the system has

[@readme_nfo]

"the cpu cooler equivalent of thumbing in a softie" *brother...*

[@Freakschwimmer]

you need to get 69 likes on that comment :D

[@handyan7]

at least Dell didn’t try and upsell the warranty to you 50 times when you bought it online

[@arushashwingo]

dark times man we don't talk about that

[@M1hay_L]

You 2 clearly didnt watch linus tech tips (secret shopper videos)

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Yeah, buying online is way better than alternative.

[@NoName-bg2om]

So you almost have a decent system there, just need a case, motherboard, cpu cooler, power supply, and another 16Gb stick of ram.

[@gastaannoying1780]

TBH, for someone who don't really care about leaving some performances on the table and just need a pc able to run RTX, this thing's a good pc. Btw, i'm well aware that for an enthusiast, this is a "scam"(although, not like other prebuilt makers)

[@Mr.Genesis]

@@gastaannoying1780 A CPU shouldn't be bottlenecking your $700 GPU.. it also shouldn't be running at 88c underload and this PC shouldn't cost $1500.

[@gastaannoying1780]

@@Mr.Genesis fair point

[@TheStoso2]

Why does he need a case?

[@gastaannoying1780]

@@TheStoso2 breathing space

[@OriginalMergatroid]

Dell needs a good class action lawsuit against them considering how often they are ripping people off by not delivering what was ordered.

[@iaminurgoofyahhwalls2tickl985]

Or everyone who gets ripped off should be entitled to a free really good gaming pc.

[@kuro9410_ilust]

@@iaminurgoofyahhwalls2tickl985 people who actually bought this actually got scammed by them too

[@cessnacitation-x]

If you can't be bothered to ask Dell to refund you/give you the components you asked for, then you kind of deserve to be ripped off. It's not that hard to send them an Email.

[@fubartotale3389]

I built mine with a DVD drive because I wanted to "past proof" it.

[@Someone-ci8wf]

It would be interesting to see you contacting dell support about the memory stick and seeing how they handle the issue

[@ilovedetails]

"A power supply as confidence inspiring as a Soviet era nuclear power plant operator"

[@FourOf92000]

_computer explodes_ ...it waS DYATLOV-

[@void9092]

@@FourOf92000 HE’S DELUSIONAL, TAKE HIM TO THE INFIRMARY

[@tibbsazoid]

Bald and Bankrupt... did someone say soviet???

[@aceous99]

500 wat psu... not good... not terrible...

[@johnkeane320]

Not great, not terrible

[@toddkobelljr.2004]

Cyberpunk 2077: 61 fps with an RTX 3070 My gtx 1070: best I can do is 8

[@MichusubPl]

My 1660 chocked while playing on medium 1080p

[@toddkobelljr.2004]

@@MichusubPl my 1070 was just trudginggg really slow. I put on high res textures, for shits and giggles, and some things would still load in gta 3 quality textures.

[@danilp8757]

the 1000 cards support DX 12 but i noticed my 1080 ti took around 20-40% perf hits with DX 12 instead of 11 and cyberpunk is DX 12 only my new 3080ti is the opposite result on the other hand

[@KrissFliss]

In 1080p or 2k, 4k?

[@Alexander12547]

Ya know I'm so over the "gamer" look that the simplicity of the dell's are looking good to me.

[@nothingtodo58]

Correct. Performance matters, not appearance.

[@Adam-qs5ir]

Same, I bought a prebuilt for the same reason and I have turned off the flashy lights

[@jerryknudsen7898]

Completely agree

[@MorpheusCh]

Also it means less likely of house robbers taking your PC because it looks discreet and not worth stealing. Robbers usually go fancy looking things like Macs and laptops.

[@bertro514]

@@Adam-qs5ir same. Though it's getting harder to find a black, no LED, no plexiglass case at a decent price. They have become the outliers and cost more than the flashy ones.

[@vasipro]

They actually made a huge effort to cut every cost possible.

[@KelvinKMS]

so Dell PC always die between 6 months to 2 years.

[@stephensullivan527]

@@KelvinKMS I've worked in IT for nearly 8 years and I can tell you for a FACT that Dells last longer than almost any other brand I've seen in the field. (Sometimes longer than we'd like lol)

[@ChrisD__]

@@stephensullivan527 What about Lenovo? I second that, there's a reason so many people repurpose used Dell Optiplex's

[@stephensullivan527]

@@ChrisD__ Those have been good to. They are both really easy to fix up, slap a GPU in, and turn into a basic gaming rig for wanting to get into PC gaming

[@marcellachine5718]

@@stephensullivan527 your talking about latitudes precisions and the like.

[@CTMKD]

"Dell, you suck." Linus and eventually Dawid

[@TheDonshaz]

Also i love that he opened it up, messed with it, took out components and then started it up. So if anything goes wrong they can blame you 😂

[@JChrist69]

They would blame him either way I doubt he's worried

[@Eri.fnn1803]

imagine you found this pc on your grandma's house 20 years later

[@toxicityuser]

@@benjamingaster “yeah grandma give it to me it’s of no use”

[@natefunk1]

I just got one of these cards as a work trade with a customer who was sold this pre-built, with no clue what they were getting. They only use the computer for web surfing and email.

[@Eri.fnn1803]

@@natefunk1 fr? lmao

[@natefunk1]

@@Eri.fnn1803 Yep. They're getting 500 in IT support and I get a rtx 3070.

[@tr4shpanda]

20 years later 3000 series still not in stock. only 3070 remaining

[@MikeDancy]

as an e-waste guy, I can say with certainty that you should never ever put those in the landfill, donate them to a thrift store, someone wants them

[@stephensullivan527]

I've been using that exact keyboard at work for years now and it's held up great

[@sobakathehusky]

@@stephensullivan527 lol I game on my old XPS keyboard from 10 years ago, no joke. All my buddies have mechanicals, but I’m comfortable on one and love the low profile. No problems at all. I’m old

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

For sure! I have a local PC recycling center that I use when ever I need to get rid of broken PC parts. 👍

[@DaRyteJuan]

@@stephensullivan527 I feel sorry for you. Spend $40 on an ergonomic wireless mouse and keyboard set. (You’ll thank me later.)

[@ukeyaoitrash2618]

@@DaRyteJuan Oh god now do you mean one of those goddamn funky split in two abominations?? :/

[@darrinfyfe7728]

I just priced it out and it's $1999.00. The 3070 was a $1000 upgrade.

[@jasonbrewbaker3932]

I don’t understand the hate on the design. It looks very upscale to me. And not as ugly as the Alienware line… Not to mention you’re not even explaining the whole cooler thing. Like is it the cooler or is it the single stick of memory that’s the bigger issue?

[@ikeo8666]

dell: hehe nobody who buys this shit would know how to open it up anyway

[@jrizzlefn]

Lol

[@gamewizard1760]

There's two thumbscrews. How could anyone mess that up?

[@jrizzlefn]

@@gamewizard1760 lol ture

[@maloony3717]

Ye it's impossible to open

[@itcheebeard]

"CPU cooler equivalent of thumbing in a softy" Just earned my sub straight up

[@charlesmathieu9255]

Prebuilt: exists Other KZbinrs: don’t do it Dawid: IM THREE PARALLEL UNIVERSES AHEAD OF YOU

[@LemonsRage]

A: "How much Airflow do want" Dell: "No"

[@AnnaDoes]

I died with ‘it’s the CPU equivalent of thumbing in a softie’. 100% spit-take material

[@jaystein1405]

💯

[@o_o6869]

She really deserve a heart on comment.

[@alexshmalex]

Massive entertainment value on what should otherwise be one of the most boring unboxings ever. Really well written and had me laughing out loud. Thanks Dawid!

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

I'm really glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching. 👍

[@pal54321]

that exagerrated fake laugh is off puting though

[@theprophet2444]

A friendly reminder that Mcaffee didn't uninstall himself!

[@Baligante]

I'm actually quite fond of the way those XPS machines look, as well as the new Optiplexes. I like those a fair bit more than most DIY gaming PCs

[@TensaZangetsu1200]

That's just false advertising, how can they get away with having that shitty cooler?

[@Erwin0912]

Dont forget that they sold a single ram as dual channel lol

[@lab-matrix]

@@Erwin0912 because. in fine print somewhere, it states. we have the right to replace whatever part for something else if we don't have it on hand. or if the idiot builder doesn't pre build ones with 2 sticks this month.

[@arnox4554]

@@lab-matrix Pretty sure that shit ain't gonna hold up in court. You can't ignore consumer law by just putting into fine-print, "It's OK for us to ignore consumer law."

[@RustyShacklefordReal]

@@arnox4554 probably easy to cover their ass with "buh it wuz accident" and give another stick of ram to anybody who calls em up. Cheaper that way, because I'm sure most people buying dell prebuilts never intend to open them.

[@emma70707]

@@arnox4554 , but they may put in the fine print that you wave your right to suing them in court and they will select and pay for a mediator, and that does tend to hold up.

[@thedevilsreaperx]

I'd send the system back with a letter reading only an angry emote.

[@paulallen1370]

send it back but keep the gpu

[@thedevilsreaperx]

@@paulallen1370 yeah as compensation! :D

[@Vihtic]

6:38 "Like thumbing in a softy". Okay im subbing

[@B0b842]

"Wich weirdly means buying a dell pre-built may be one of the most reliable ways at the moment to get your hands on an RTX 3070" *I thought I will never hear this in my life*

[@Banom7a]

eh, it's pretty similar in 2017 during Bitcoin boom (if anyone remember that)

[@LaserFur]

but knowing dell the PCI slot probably has a different pinout.

[@Fractoman]

The fact that you didn't get all the plastic film off is driving me nuts.

[@xeress]

Reach out to Dell and ask for the dual sticks and the cooler in the marketing material, let us know how they responded . It would be an interesting video to see if/ how they treat with a customer calling them out on false advertising.

[@jorrdanna6219]

this

[@wemartin12]

They only put enhanced coolers on -K variant CPU's.

[@joshstanton267]

Threaten to put a 7.62 though their eye socket bro 😁

[@sabianwarner5316]

@@joshstanton267 that sure would end well

[@RastaMonk420]

"The CPU cooler equivalent of thumbing in a softie" dead

[@ae92levingtapex]

Can you explain it to me? I don't get it lol

[@ae92levingtapex]

@Kymii~ hey I'm legal, just not from North America

[@ae92levingtapex]

@Kymii~ I'd forgotten about this, and have since googled it, enough said, I get it now

[@googletarded8300]

That XPS looks like an Optiplex business pc, wtf. Even the back looks like one!

[@MJ-uk6lu]

Dell has been getting worse and worse

[@itsyurmumm8458]

Idk, kinda low key. I liked it, but it is built like a furnace. Cooling isn’t Dell’s strong suit. I’m actually running an upgraded optiplex rn, but I got an i5 and dual channel 8gig ram, and put an RX570 and Corsair PSU in for CHEAP, even with the surge in GPU prices. I got that all for like $300. That’s pretty damn good tbh. All of that has made me appreciate Optiplexes for what they are.

[@nathangamble125]

It _is_ an optipex business PC, just with a different name.

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Yeah it really does. It's such a disappointing looking system.

[@clarko7878]

"Thumbing in a softie" earned my like. Well done sir.

[@phalspar]

Stopped the vid JUST to find someone who caught that

[@DirtbagHercules]

6:36 for those that missed it

[@mizhimo]

Tbh, I love the aesthetics of those office cases, just a black box without tempered glass panels nor f**king RGB.

[@jelle8055]

I agree, though I don't mind glass when used correctly,

[@cybercery5271]

smh you lose performance without rgb

[@KorekFrost]

Some be quiet cases look better imo

[@geraldeh7291]

I don't like the glass panels or RGB either. I just built a new AMD 3600 cpu machine and used an old generic black case from my dad's computer that didn't run any more. I replaced two 5 1/4 face plates with a front fan mod and it looks great. If I want lights, I will buy a desk lamp. lol

[@Boyz2705]

@@cybercery5271 if you don't want to lose performance, you can just use rgb led strips

[@TheLukasz777]

My computer specs: i7 10700K no OC RTX 3070 MSI Ventus 2x8GB RAM G.Skill 4000MHz Trident RGB MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK In Far Cry 5 in the performance test I have AVG 157 Fps and 1% 122 Fps. I didn't expect such a difference compared to DELL.

[@tszatek]

"we introduced new Dell XPS few months ago..." "I know I bought one" "ahhh, so it was you..."

[@theminecarthero]

a more accurate title would be: Dell SCAMMED Me!

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Haha!! Fair enough. Considering that Linus recently had that exact title, I thought I'd change it up a bit. 😁

[@aikainnet]

For those that are wondering, dell skipped out on dual channel memory despite it being ordered as such. Has nothing to do with the gpu.

[@teddym2808]

It absolutely baffles me! They could literally improve their computers SO much by simply providing better cooling! It's nuts! And for those who say, well then people won't buy their flagship ones, well their flagship ones thermal throttle too! (at least they are much more usable overall). What should be in XPS is Alienware cooling, and what should be in Alienware is hardcore stuff that keeps the CPU and GPU at 100% load and boost at all times without throttling. That's what you should get for that money. The only ones that totally nailed desktop cooling WITH quiet performance are apple at the moment. Is everyone else too stupid to even do something half as good?

[@Syl2r]

Accountant here, I like the look. XPS accountant design certified.

[@jpf7942]

The most boring, generic design ever. Right up our ally 😂😂😂

[@rendoid]

I swear Dell's business model depends on the fact that the vast majority of people will never open up their own systems lol

[@mihan2d]

Well clearly they never do. That's the whole point of prebuilts.

[@GandalfTheSilver]

@@mihan2d Normally I'd agree with this statement, but the point of prebuilts at the moment is too get around the insane GPU prices and replace any components that need replacing, and for MUCH cheaper overall than a custom of the same exact same setup. GTX 1660S on its own is going for $800+ on amazon right now, and I can find a desktop for $800 WITH the GTX 1660S contained prebuilt.

[@dafaqu694]

@@GandalfTheSilver Exactly why I'm getting Lenovo T5 with 3070 on it

[@AussieR1]

It would be interesting to see the improvement with 2 sticks of ram and a decent CPU cooler.

[@jasonpotter3001]

DDTS, can you smell that follow up video cooking yet??

[@rainonedavid3564]

Problem is, even the cpu coolers are proprietary. I doubt you can find a decent one that fits.

[@shenrl5624]

I subbed immediately after he said "CPU Cooler equivalent of thumbing in a softie".. Almost died laughing

[@weswes10]

Step 1: buy crappy dell prebuilt Step 2: Sell video card on ebay for the same price you bought said prebuilt Step 3: ?!? Step 4: Profit

[@mqayyum9226]

@Monochromatik-Vision nah that thing will sell for $200 so you are left with a $1300 non branded 3070

[@jaystein1405]

I wouldn't call it crappy. It's decent

[@scudsturm1]

except 1 stick ram, and a 12v only psu and a meh cooler

[@Tzalmavet]

"Reference 3070 I was going to use for a custom loop, $1,500 or best offer"

[@zackattack6106]

Put dual channel ram and put a little bit better cooler in it and see how much performance you gain I'm interested

[@joshstanton267]

Yes a beefy cpu cooler and dual channel 3200 low timing RAM would be sick. Overclock it!

[@jackdonovan5435]

06:40 "CPU cooler equivalent of thumbing in a softie" had me doin' a lil' giggle I won't lie 😆

[@SilverXTikal]

my God I missed that xD

[@Carrot_Handler]

Spilt coffee on my self after that bit.

[@The_Trojan]

I ordered the 11700 version of this a couple of weeks ago. You can upgrade the cpu cooler pretty cheaply and you can get a heat sink for the VRM. They better send be 2x8gb though or I will be pissed.

[@조셉은플로버]

Update me

[@The_Trojan]

@@조셉은플로버 Yeah it shiped with dual channel but there is a big issue. You can only use JEDEC profiles on ram you buy and cannot enable XMP. I could handle the enforced CPU power limits that dell does not let you remove but not supporting XMP is a joke.

[@Duhpression]

@@The_Trojan rip

[@The_Trojan]

I ended up grabbing an NR600 case, EVGA CLC 360mm cooler and an ASRock Z590 Steel Legend Wifi 6e mobo. Much better now.

[@Sheovion]

@@The_Trojan let me guess, the original Dell mobo and PSU were proprietary?

[@apefish2266]

is it just me who genuinely likes the look of the case

[@fuelhemi426]

I like it too

[@n.stephan9848]

No, you're not the only one. I honestly can't stand most gaming cases, they're so over the top.

[@vivzey]

@@n.stephan9848 that's why the nzxt h500 is my favorite case

[@n.stephan9848]

@@vivzey That case looks beautiful, very sleek. Thanks for letting me know about it.

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

It is sleek and inoffensive, but it just seems like an OptiPlex. The XPS is dell's higher end line and I feel like they should have made more effort. But you know, personal preference and all that. 😁

[@JakeLikesTech]

Wow, this after the LTT secret shopper where Dell actually scammed him.

[@ZARuslan]

can leave a link please? Can't find video

[@iFYMxDRKNSFALLS]

@@ZARuslan i think this kzbin.info/www/bejne/faCYpX-Fa86jrtk

[@dans2ndxbox360]

Hahahahaa!😁😂🤣

[@mrblurleighton]

Should've taken the LTT secret shopper warning. My condolences.

[@nate-ox5lw]

Am the only one who prefers pcs that look simple like this. I'm not a fan of rgb and flashy lights

[@returnofbeaux]

Amen. If my machine came with obnoxious RGB LEDs, I would try to learn how to make them look more dignified with a pulsating amber or a flickering green. Maybe just a constant, low red.

[@atraidiesl3549]

Yes you are :)

[@nate-ox5lw]

@@atraidiesl3549 nah this other dude agreed with me

[@VonSpud]

I dont like the crazy cases with plastic fairing that tries to make them look like a transformer. RGB ok but I barely look at the fancy lights.

[@nate-ox5lw]

@@VonSpud I agree

[@catherineclark8890]

My laptop was on its way out, so I decided to get a Dell XPS with an RTX 2060, 10th generation i5, and 500W power supply. I've been gaming regularly on it for a couple months now for at least a few hours a day, and here's my rundown of the system. - If you want to game, you MUST replace the CPU cooler and add more fans. After mods, my CPU stays at 45C and my GPU 60C even after a few hours of heavy gaming. I used a Vetroo V5 CPU cooler, which is cheaper than Dell's proprietary cooler / Noctua's equivalent cooler. The difference in performance between the three is negligible. - It is difficult to upgrade the RAM on these systems because RAM speed is capped depending on what processor you have. For i5s, the cap is 2666. For i7s, it will not go above 3000. I'd at least like to upgrade my single 16gb stick to two 8gb sticks, but I've heard of people having issues finding compatible RAM for this system. - Use zip ties instead of rubber screws to mount your fans. - The motherboard and power supply cannot be moved from the case. So if you want to move parts to a new case, you'll have to buy new ones. - On my order, the front panel's power button did not extend far enough to actually turn the tower on. I keep the front panel off. It isn't pretty, but ventilation is a lot better with the front panel off anyway. - ALL fans must be connected to the sockets on the motherboard that say "CPU FAN" and "FAN SYS". If you try to connect it to the power supply / any other socket, the BIOs will throw up an error. This means you will need fan splitters / extension cords. I have CPU FAN connected to the CPU cooler ( duh ) and top intake fan. FAN SYS is connected to the bottom intake fan and rear exhaust fan. It's not the BEST, but it plays triple AAA titles at medium-high settings, and I have not run into significant issues since using this as my gaming PC. I also upgraded from the stock 256gb Kioxia NVMe to a 1tb WD Blue. In total, I spent about $1000 on the tower + improvements. Happened to get the tower for $800 during one of those sales Dell runs about once every month. Pretty good given the current specs and the way the PC gaming market is right now.

[@TheNightquaker]

I hope they don't ask you to DELLete this video.

[@robertp457]

It's not MSI ;)

[@stepmumstuckinthewashingma6676]

Stop

[@nadtz]

Can't even lie the ad was so funny I actually sat through the whole thing. That cooler is also atrocious. Between that and the ram misconfiguration I'd be giving dell hell.

[@garrettturner7383]

I guess I’m like the only one that really loves the way these dell PCs are designed?

[@loganmitchell1382]

No, I've always liked how those cases look. I don't like my pc being lit up like a Christmas tree,

[@myspookydiaries4087]

🙋‍♀️

[@rozadodelacolina]

IKR, I just can't understand how people can honestly think that unicorn barf look is any good. For me this is a 1000 times better than any "gamer" design. Who needs to look at the guts of the machine anyway? It looks so dirty and unappealing. A clean solid color looks way better imho, the clear look just makes the computer look like a cheap toy, reminds me of those old transparent gameboy.

[@RickMyBalls]

You must love working in grey offices I guess.

[@blackbomber72]

@@rozadodelacolina now that is too extreme. When I spend thousands of dollars in PC parts at least I want to look at them. A good color pcb and good coolers can truly look great

[@agenttexx]

I got two XPS at Christmas and ordering them was a nightmare. I cancelled two orders before getting a confirmation they would be delivered before February. But it meant changing the processors from i9 to i7 and getting the RTX-2070 instead of a 30 series. On my son's XPS, i opted to get a machine with the stock intel GMA and put my old GTX 1050Ti from my old gaming computer. It was the only way to get him a system capable of playing Cyberpunk. I eventually yanked the 1TB hdd and replaced it with a 1TB Samsung 970 SSD. I also took the 16GB of Ram out of my computer and put it into his giving him 32GB of RAM. I upgraded mine to 64GB.

[@jacobnfff6354]

“Trendier than a vegan ice cream shop” - Dawid

[@infernow2125]

"Warcrime blower cooler" Does my all black plastic blower gtx 1060 from a prebuilt count

[@icebergpreservation5164]

3 gig or 6 gig, I'll forgive a 1060 3gb

[@infernow2125]

@@icebergpreservation5164 its a 6 gig-

[@icebergpreservation5164]

@@infernow2125 just a lil war crime

[@user-kp4ii5eu2w]

@@icebergpreservation5164 😂

[@RetroAmateur1989]

I am fairly confident that they were not expecting you to open the case. So they thought they could scam you with one stick of ram and a stock cooler. They literally prey on clueless people.

[@Erilan5]

It also shows up in windows though

[@RetroAmateur1989]

@@Erilan5 It does, but I think they assume you are not going to be savvy to that either.

[@Alighierian]

@@RetroAmateur1989 Pretty much. I mean, even if people see it in passing, I'm pretty sure more than a few either simply don't know what they're looking at, or just don't bother looking further into it because they don't know something might be off. Slightly related: I was also running a stock intel cooler on my i7-6700k for about 4-5 years, until I actually started looking into some other issue, which led me to look into why my CPU was trying to cook dinner, which in turn resulted in a cpu cooler upgrade. I never actually noticed it before that point, given I never had issues with it, and stuff ran just fine.

[@haz1101]

Now we know that they lied!

[@kasimirdenhertog3516]

New video shows how the rep screwed up the memory

[@InterstellarCloudd]

“..running hotter than the earths mantle.” My big gamer brain was sitting here thinking “Why is the earth doing parkour?” To be fair I graduated at 15 and my brain went poopy after.

[@farismalik4857]

Do a video where you upgrade the Dell prebuilt by using dual channel memory and a way better cooler, to see if you can get better performance. That would be fun to watch!

[@sebaschan-uwu]

That black 3070 looked pretty slick and clean, now I really want one

[@ambientlightofdarknesss4245]

You know times are dark when dell is a good recommendation for getting a gaming PC.

[@_shadow_1]

My laptop wasn't that bad...then again it's a laptop...

[@larsondavis8155]

Dude, you're sh*t talking is so clever and funny. "Let's see what it looks like inside this accountant's wet dream." Hilarious.

[@johnDingoFoxVelocity]

i wouldnt have purchased a xps at all i own one the nightmare you face upgrading the machines in the xps lineup are a joke

[@danosdotnl]

yes

[@johnDingoFoxVelocity]

@Aditya Bhattacharya yes there laptops are not bad i wont argue there its there design choices thats where the issues line

[@gamewizard1760]

Dell sacrificed the XPS line when they acquired Alienware. They used to be much more upgradeable than they are now. That used to be one of their big selling points. They aren't much different from the Inspiron or Vostro lines now.

[@gamewizard1760]

@@Hello_-_-_-_ Everything. The motherboards are proprietary and won't work with a standard ATX PSU, or mount up in a standard ATX case. Don't buy one of these thinking you will be able to move everything into a standard case so you can use a more powerful graphics card with it. These machines are built to be disposable.

[@anam00090]

@@johnDingoFoxVelocity I know new model is better but my Dell XPS 15 is the last Dell hardware I will every get. Battery swollen after a few months, screws screwed in so tight, I was unable to disassemble to repaste it, heats up and throttles very quickly and they removed undervolting, so I can't even manage my temperatures that way. As someone that never planned to buy a Mac, issues with Windows 10 and Dell have finally made me look the other way. Really disappointing. And their customer service is the *worst*.

[@RandomFlux]

It would be interesting to see a follow-up report with a decent CPU cooler and dual-channel memory.

[@mitchboland9591]

This looks like the computer my dad would use to play minesweeper on Windows XP lol

[@michaelpiper4067]

i had to look up 'thumbing in a softie'. very good!

[@CarteWork]

Horrendous fps for those games. My last gen graphics card and processor get a good bit higher at 1440p

[@RaneBoDasch]

Yeah that's horrible. Got a ryzen 2600 and gtx 1080 putting up better numbers at 1440p

[@mrroboto6361]

It would have been nice if he could have done the review with a better cooler and proper ram setup. You can trash on Dell for the bad setup, but you can't trash the hardware that was gimped out of no fault of its own bad design etc. I'm pretty sure if it had proper dual channel ram and a better cooler your last-gen is not touching that 3070 unless you have a 2080ti. As the GPU temps were just fine despite it being a hotbox in the case so I doubt cooling is an issue on the GPU, the real question is if it performs at least reference specs from a hardware stance. Barring the GPU itself not being on par with reference and proper setup, the only bottleneck I see would be the cheaper ram being clocked lower.

[@CarteWork]

@@mrroboto6361 yes, that is obvious. The complaint is that this is what unknowing people pay for and expect "3070" performance and don't get it. Obviously not his fault.

[@j.m4a1]

@@RaneBoDasch I’ve got the same cpu but it runs super hot I need to get a good cpu cooler which one do you have?

[@RaneBoDasch]

@@j.m4a1 stock cooler should be ok if you're not overclocking. Try reapplying the thermal paste and check mounting pressure. I actually have a 240 mil aio. Its a bit overkill but it keeps my temps below 60c under heavy load. Its a pretty cheap aio. Uphere brand. Its lasted 4 years now and i rarely shut off my pc. I'd recommend something like the hyper 212 evo. Any $20 to 30 aftermarket cooler should be fine

[@laobrendan2146]

Why does it look like an optiplex lmao

[@DanielOfRussia]

Proly because it is one lmao

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

I know right! XPS keeps getting lamer.

[@dashcamandy2242]

@@RobFlexz XPS was originally Dell's response (and direct competitor) to Alienware, and solely marketed for gaming back in the day.

[@joshstanton267]

It looks like something that dawid bought because he knew it would be shit, so he could make a funny video about it... 😝

[@FlippyDipDipper]

I keep seeing these and I was wondering what it would look like. Thanks for doing this! Great videos as always, keep it up!

[@viikzen4449]

I bought a dell prebuilt with an i7 11700 and rtx 3060 for $1250. Slapped in a u9s and its actually pretty solid. AND mine came with dual channel 2x8gb ram

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Oh hell yeah! They are one of the better ways to get your hands on a reasonably priced GPU theses days. I like to replace the case and motherboard though to completely purge the Dell from the system. 😅

[@tdrb42]

Dawid: Dell, can I please have dual channel memory? Dell: No, I don't think I will.

[@BTC909]

Dell will since that is what the invoice shows but will they have you send it back or send someone to you?