Day 17 - Opiate Withdrawal, and Gabapentin

Hey guys!
I just wanted to do a video, expressing my personal concerns about Gabapentin.
I'm not a doctor, and this is not meant to be taken as advice. It's just my own personal opinion.
Much appreciation and love to you all!
Peace and good vibes.
Jay

[@suesana4504]

Thank you so much for making this video. TAKE NO MEDICATIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ON THE MARKET FOR AT LEST 15 YEARS W/O RECALL ISSUES! Doctors got HUGE kick backs for feeding patients, "new" drugs that harm MANY! I was given Gabapentin in doses that were 3000-5000 mg and I should never have gotten more than 100-300 MG MAX! it destroyed my kidneys are took a long time to get off of. Zoloft is dependence/(addiction, if there is dependence there is addiction) causing too. They finally made this a scheduled medication because of the benzo and alcohol type effects which SHOULD have been mentioned. Doctors/pharmcorps aren't too bright/ethical about the drugs they are allowed to pass out in samples of out. The first taste being free type drug pusher tactic says alot & try pushing on patients. I got ill for 4 years at age 18-22 and was given so many drugs I would not take and then they'd get pulled for causing too many deaths and injury. Why doctors are allowed to be gatekeepers. We KNOW what opiates are and how they interact with the body, so they can be mitigated. These newer meds aren't being responsibly managed or tapered.

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thank you so much for this extremely important comment! I'm going to pin it, so more people notice it! Thank you for watching and so wisely commenting, friend. 🙏

[@SAMEntalhealth]

The boredom kills me. I want to succeed, but I feel like I've been left stranded in the middle of nowhere:-(

[@LC-go1uh]

Search for God with all your heart and you'll find the meaning to life. He will answer. It took several months of me seeking with everything inside of me before I found Him. Don't look in churches and preachers. Some of them are good but some are not. Open your bible and get on your knees And seek His face with everything inside of you and you will find Him. Nothing else in this world will ever satisfy your soul to 100% capacity. We were created to have a relationship with the one who created us and having that is where you find true satisfaction and contentment.

[@xaviergarza8525]

Seriously

[@SAMEntalhealth]

@@xaviergarza8525 thankfully ive been clean for some time now but it wasn't fun then :(

[@MyBenzoHell]

Keep pushing man, I’d be carful using gabapentin for more than 4 weeks due to dependence issues that might occur,But they worked for me for the worst of the nerve pain, stay strong 💪

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thanks for your continued support and advice, man! And excellent work on all your progress! I'm proud of you!

[@CMoore8539]

My Benzo Hell 😊

[@JaneCooper190072]

I'm on day 3, but from a light and short heroin run and they're helping Alot, I'm figuring by day ten I should be starting to feel better BTW, I got a gabapentin habit years ago, but once I reduced the miligrams I didn't feel a thing coming off those though. but yeah, they help through the first part of withdrawal, like 7-10 days use and I shouldn't get a habit. Yh, they told my mom that they would help for nerve damage in her feet, she had no idea they were addictive, she never took them though, which is good cause I need them right now

[@TheseFourWalls]

Congratulations, my friend! I'm proud of you for taking your life back. I spent over 13 years, messed up and miserable. The last year of my life spent sober, has been one of the richest and most productive and healing. Gabapentin was an absolute life saver. But I believe I was on too high a dose, and for too long. So, coming off the Gaba really screwed with my sleep, and increased my anxiety for about two weeks. But, ultimately, the support and relief it gave to me exceeded the negatives. Thank you for your comment, and again, congratulations! ✌😊

[@DarnLina]

I feel the same pain. Thank you for making this video! Best of luck on your journey.

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thank you for your support. It means so much to me! Best of luck on your journey as well. One day at a time. ✌😊💛

[@gerryhill4820]

Love ya, man. Hang in there. Good luck with the rest of your journey.

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thanks Gerry, that means a lot. You're appreciated. Be well, friend. ✌🏻

[@lorettawagner78]

Hi Jason I just stumbled on to you and instantly loved you! No I'm not crazy just a sensitive person. I realize there are more people like me out there and I'm not alone. Thank you for sharing your life it is a tremendous help to many of us.

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thank you so much, for such a kind and supportive comment. Starting this channel, and getting the chance to interact with such kind people, and realizing I'm not alone, has made a huge difference in my life. We are never alone with our struggles, my friend. 😊✌

[@noellemerry514]

Just wanted to say hello and send a bunch of wishes for a peaceful night and gentle tomorrow. Happy to hear you are having more good times than bad! Carry On!

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thank you so much, that's very kind of you. I'm feeling good tonight, so I'm hoping to get a good night's sleep. Thanks for the kindness and support. 😊✌💛

[@vegasbarbie4186]

You look great Jason! I’m very proud of you❤️❤️❤️

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thank you so much!

[@samanthataylor5394]

Awww!! Hey Jason!! LOVE this. You're awesome.

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thanks so much, Sam. 💛😊✌💛

[@CMoore8539]

I Support All MAT Recoveries. I believe in damage control, and I believe that Recovery is different for each person. We all have the same problem, but each of us are unique.♥️

[@sarah29880]

Looking good Jason! The struggle is real. Wow you go through a lot: I can’t imagine. Glad reading helps. I do like reading meditation and spiritual related books and feel like it gets me through rough times. Good for you 👍🏼👍🏼💕. I am a physical therapist and man those drugs people get on sometimes, it’s too much. In the nursing home people are on like 40 drugs or more. It’s crazy. Doctors CAN be pill pushers at times. Glad you do your own research; I did too related to Lyme disease since no one would really help me.

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thanks for your support, Sarah! Yes, reading helps a lot. It keeps my mind occupied. And I had lost my love of reading, while on pills. So, I've got a lot of books to catch up with. :) And yes, some doctors really are pill pushers. I've known a few. Unfortunately, I don't think my doctor really thought this one thru, so I'm glad I did some research. I think Gabapentin is an amazing drug... Just not for addicts like me, who are trying to get their brain chemistry back to normal. 💛😊✌

[@CMoore8539]

These Four Walls I Agree.

[@CMoore8539]

@@TheseFourWalls How are you doing? It’s getting cold 🥶. Stay warm Brother.💞

[@steveng8240]

Keep ya head up man. I know I’m late but I’m going threw withdrawal myself and it’s one of the hardest things I’ve ever had to deal with

[@TheseFourWalls]

Hey! Thanks for the comment. Keep fighting, my friend. We fall, and we get back up... Stronger each time. 🙏☺✌

[@williamwinn948]

music,bathtubs,talking and hobbies helped me.

[@TheseFourWalls]

Great advice, my friend. All these things were some of my biggest helpers through that hellish time. 🙏✌

[@wsphxrubii6753]

Your videos really have me breaking down because you're saying everything I feel outloud. I'm struggling with fentanyl perks and it's really ruining my life my daughter's life and my family's life and they don't know what I'm addicted to but its surely getting more obvious. The sickness it's so horrible I try to slow down but truth is that's never gonna work. I need to let my family in. My father. My sisters. I keep acting like I'm fine but it's taken its tole on my body my health my mental health. I haven't felt so hopeless and depressed and anxious and the feeling to just end my life since freshman high school. I over came it and not with the meds I was given. And now to say I'm losing what I fought for because of a pill I smoke. I don't want to lose my daughter. Or myself I feel like ending myself. I'm in tears and this needs to be my wakeup calling. Bless you and the Cold utter truth you are speaking. 💗 I'm a big fan of you I admire you. Every movement is a self improvement. I will get clean I can and I promise to begin a journey to sobriety.

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thank you so much for your comment, and sharing your experience. The best thing I did, to help me on the road to recovery, was fessed up. (First, to myself; then to my loved ones.) Once you're open with others about it, then you can be more open about the struggle... The quiet war you're fighting on your own, with no back up... Others can help you hold yourself accountable, because it's just something no one should have to battle on their own. Support is truly key. I know you've got it in you, and I know you're going to get clean: for yourself, and for the ones you love, and who love you in return. 💛 I'm here if you ever need someone to vent to, my friend. Keep fighting the good fight, because you are SOOO worth it. 💪😌✌💛

[@SAMEntalhealth]

I was on them. Check my videos

[@chrisradke65]

Hope your doing well

[@joarddelagarza5779]

Pray that your ok

[@FeelLikePac]

@Wsphx Rubii hyd sweetness

[@myriahramos6041]

You are looking good Jason!!

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thank you so much! 💛😊✌

[@rockinroberta9925]

Look at all of these beautiful comments!!! Now you know why I keep making videos. I am so inspired by all the love I Receive here on KZbin. It’s amazing and isn’t it?! You are such a sweetheart Jason. Xoxoox

[@TheseFourWalls]

Yes! The support, encouragement and love I've been shown has touched my heart. I feel so grateful to people like you, who helped plug my channel into this recovery community. You're a very special woman, and I appreciate all the love and support. Big hugs! 💛😊✌ Xo Xo

[@kerryirving2949]

That’s TERRIBLE that that medication gives you ALL the same symtoms as withdrawal ! Yes the doctor SHOULD of told you. I’m GLAD your speaking to your doctor day! Hope it goes well. I’m PLEASED your having more better times that bad 😊 & you look REALLY well!

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thank you so much, Kerry. Your continued support has meant a lot to me. 😊✌

[@kerryirving2949]

These Four Walls your welcome 😊 & thank you for saying that!

[@cassieschroeder-rhodes8774]

Good morning Jason! Gabapentin is a strange med. I’ve been on it for years and have had a positive experience with it..especially for mood and anxiety and for the other various medical issues I deal with. I have also tapered off of it several times, under the supervision of my doctor. In my own experience coming off of it I had sweats and mood swings. I have also came off benzodiazepines..and for me that was just horrible even with a taper plan. For me personally coming off gabapentin was nothing like coming off benzodiazepines. That was my personal experience. Everyone is different and react to meds and tapers differently. I felt the withdrawal from benzos way longer than gabapentin. I do agree with you that doctors need to tell patients that their bodies can become dependent on gabapentin and that they need a taper to come off of it. Thanks for the video Jason. Keep on keeping on! Have a good one😀🌟

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thank you so much, for sharing your experience with me. I'm so glad it helps you... Cuz it's really helped me, too. It's just that, after reading some of the withdrawal symptoms (especially the mental ones), it scared me a bit. So I'm glad to know, from your experience, what the withdrawal was like for you. I'm going to come up with a plan to do a slow taper, with my doctors help... Thanks for your comment and support!

[@cassieschroeder-rhodes8774]

These Four Walls You’re very welcome. 😁❤️

[@rockinroberta9925]

Cassie Schroeder-Rhodes 🧡

[@drainedeyes4268]

I know it’s been a while since you uploaded this, but I feel you so hard on this stuff. Im currently trying to get off Gabapentin just to make it easier coming down on Suboxone, which is ridiculous considering I specifically asked my doctor “will I become addicted to Gabapentin” before I ever took it, and he literally told me NO, it is NON habit forming, and this was a year before it became a schedule drug, but he still should have known, and he should have been honest with me. I’ll always be pissed about that one, like come the f on dude, this my LIFE, and with that one decision, he made it exponentially more difficult. Because I was quite resistant to getting on anything else aside from Suboxone. This is a hell of a journey, though, I’m wondering how you’re doing now. I can’t wait to be free again, hoping it won’t be years from now. Im currently on 6mg a day, started at 16 a day around 5 years ago. Just can’t take it anymore, gotta get clean somehow, no matter what it takes. I quit using cannabis around 8 months ago, that was tough, but doable, and I’m hoping that will be a temporary resource once I get to the really low doses. Hope all is well with you, people just don’t know how hard this is.

[@TheseFourWalls]

Hey friend - thanks for this kind and extremely honest comment. People don't get how hard this journey is. I'm 3 and a half years in, and I still struggle. I've had 7 to 10 days, scattered here and there, where I've relapsed. But I noted what triggered me, avoided said trigger, and picked myself right back up like my life depended on it. Because life free from the chains I used to be in is night and day... The old me is buried safely within, and I've slowly gathered the tools to deal with him when he comes out, so-to-speak. I really hope you're doing well on your journey, my friend. I apologise for the delayed response. (I've been on my other channel) Just know I'm rooting for you every step of the way, and I get how hard and heavy each step is. You're stronger than you know; we all are. Fight on, friend. 🙏✌ And thanks for the kind, encouraging comment.

[@drainedeyes4268]

@@TheseFourWalls I’m so glad you’re doing better these days, I can’t tell you how happy that makes me to know. Your videos have been a bit of a haven for me over the last couple years as I’ve been searching for ways to get off this stuff. I eventually ended up trying micro dosing Psilocybin to help get off Gabapentin, and that ended up helping my brain heal from it much much faster and with much less horrible withdrawals. It also really helped me get to the root of why I’ve stumbled with drugs and become an addict, and I believe it helped me a lot. It’s non addictive so I stopped using that no problem. I’m getting my second and last shot of Sublocade the day after tomorrow, and then I’m done with buprenorphine FOREVER. So I’m hoping that goes well and I can heal accordingly. Some people have some minor withdrawal for a couple months, but I’m ready for it I think. Either way I’ve spent as much money as I’ll ever spend on it so I’m just done with it all. I’m ready to be free again. Fuck these pharmaceutical companies and the doctors who have absolutely no regard for patients, though. But thank you again for your videos and your reply, it means a lot. I wish you nothing but the best as you continue with your journey with recovery. Never give up, you’re incredible resilient yourself, you’re actually a champion for going through everything you went through to get off of it all, seriously.

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thanks for your comment, it's good to know my videos are helpful in any way. And I couldn't agree more, my friend... Fuck pharmaceutical companies, and fuck irresponsible, money hungry doctors - fattening their pockets while having no regard for the literal hell they've put us through. I missed the part in your first comment about you asking your doctor if Gaba was addictive... I literally asked the same question and got the same answer. It's insanity. But I'm proud of you, having come through all that you've come through thus far. I know how hard it is, it's like a silent, solo war with yourself. But I have complete faith in you successfully finishing your journey back to the person YOU want to be. It's obvious, in your comments, how serious you are about getting clean. And, at least for me, that's what it took... wanting it more than anything... getting pissed and fed up and just wanting my life back. And that's how you sound. You're gonna be successful, friend. And if you need to talk or vent, I'm here. Keep your eyes on the prize, fellow warrior. 💪☺✌

[@MeganVictoriaKearns]

I took 300-600 mg twice a day. I cannot believe I didn't know about this before. I know everyone is different, but this worked so great for me.

[@TheseFourWalls]

I'm so very glad it worked well for you, my friend!! 😊🙏✌

[@Zonatapio]

Exactly. Gabapentin is supposed to only be taken for the 1-2 weeks tops just to get over the immediate accute withdrawals. There's virtually no chance for dependancy in that amount of time with the dose you mentioned, and even substantially more. After you're over the hump, then stop. You can even slowly decrease the dosage after the first week if you're worried about it. Gabapentin is a miracle for opiate withdrawal if taken correctly. Reason he has issues is because he's taken it for a long time. For everyone else lookign to use it to get off opiates, take it as I mentioned above and not long term.

[@TheseFourWalls]

Everyone has different experiences with Gabapentin. What might be a miracle for some could be a curse for others. I took it exactly as prescribed, and experienced hellish withdraws. That was my experience. If I'd been abusing it, I'd have expressed that. And just doing some simple searches on the internet, you can easily see that this is the case for many, many others who take Gabapentin. Everyone doesn't respond the same to a medication. But certainly glad it helped you, and everyone else that benefits from it. ✌

[@TheseFourWalls]

And ps, I was on Gabapentin for months before I even began my recovery journey, for restless legs. So it wasn't a 1 to 2 week situation for me. My dose was increased to help with the opiate withdraw. Then I dealt with the Gabapentin withdraw.

[@Zonatapio]

@@TheseFourWalls which only reinforces my point. Its the best opiate withdrawal medication there is, especially when taken for accutes (1-2 weeks). Your situation was different because you had prior long term use and a very high dose, hence the withdrawals you experienced from the gabapentin.

[@lonismith3002]

You’re amazing. I miss watching your videos!

[@TheseFourWalls]

You're amazing as well, my friend. I'm putting out a brief video today, and I'll be doing a livestream next Saturday at 4pm (EST) ✌💛☺ I've missed you all.

[@lonismith3002]

These Four Walls I’m so excited to hear you’re putting out a video today and I’ll set a reminder in my phone for next Saturday. I really, truly hope that you are doing well!

[@goawayandlearnsomedamnmann1391]

He's beautiful and strong.

[@michaelschwartz812]

How much gaba are you taking a day? You should be done with the withdrawal at day 17 right? Most people say 3 to 7 days then you have post withdrawal but I dont believe you should still be having night sweats at day 17

[@TheseFourWalls]

Hey Michael - This video was made over 6 months ago, so I'm off the Gabapentin now. But I was taking 1800 mgs a day of Gaba, as prescribed by my doctor. The night sweats I was experiencing at this point in my detox weren't from the opiate withdrawal, it was from the Gabapentin taper. But honestly I experienced night sweats during my PAWS as well. I experienced a lot of heightened anxiety and nightmares which would cause night sweats. But that's also tied into my Complex PTSD. So, everyone's withdrawal process is gonna look different. Thanks for the comment. ✌😊

[@user-zv5bt1we4s]

Hi there please to meet you ...I have a question if you don't mind? Do you get tolerance withdrawals from opiates? Thank you for your videos.

[@alonzobutler600]

I dont know you but I’m proud for you !

[@meatgoggles8149]

Can intake gaba for 1 week for acute symptoms? I have underlying nerve pain which will be made worse by the opiod withdrawals, how long does it take to get addicted to gaba?

[@TheseFourWalls]

Yes you can, and it helps a lot with opioid withdrawal and nerve pain. It takes about 4 to 6 weeks for most people to start experiencing dependence. And some people don't find it to have any addictive properties at all. I have experienced HELLISH withdrawal symptoms from tapering off my Gabapentin, but I was on a high dose for over 7 months. Thanks for your question, and best of luck to you. ✌👍👊

[@jamiefox1473]

I'm looking to get off this suboxone...I've been on it for over 5 years and just sick of having to take it to do anything or just to be happy. I'm scared to be depressed and not have energy to work and do anything! But I want to know what's the best way to get off with little withdrawals that scares the hell out of me.. I will take any advice I can thank you.

[@TheseFourWalls]

Hey my friend - I never ended up having to take Suboxone, so I am afraid this is a question better suited for your doctor. Discuss a slow taper (coming down like 2mgs every three months or something) so you can more gently get your system used to not having it. Also, check out the KZbin channel Real_Talk_ Recovery - a woman named Nicole runs the channel. She does live streams daily, and she's very knowledgeable about Suboxone. She even runs a MAT support and recovery group meeting once a week. (She's currently doing a slow-taper program herself, after being on Suboxone for 4 years.) I wish I had more answers for you, my friend. But I'm always here for support, if you need to talk. Peace ✌

[@jamiefox1473]

@@TheseFourWalls thank you..I watch slot of people say they have done it with little withdrawals but everyone is dif. Just at the point where I dont want to take it anymore and get back to normal again and not need a drug to be happy or live my life..

[@TheseFourWalls]

That's exactly how I had started feeling, like I no longer wanted to be dependant on a drug for my happiness. Plus, the drugs weren't helping as much anymore, and I was always stressed about money, and how was I gonna score... Drugs are so high-maintaince and exhausting. I know for me, 600 mgs of gaba, 3 times a day, was enough. But the maximum daily dose is 3600 mgs, so I know some have to take more than I took to get relief. It's best to talk this all out with your doctor. I'm proud of you for taking the leap. Talk soon. Jay

[@apriljames726]

Kratom Will help you make the impossible Possible! Watch A Leaf of Faith~*~

[@addict2quitwithzach166]

I'm right there with you. I don't get why they don't really consider who they are giving it to.gabapebtin. Yeah it seams all the things we don't want while going through this is exactly what it does to us. Crazy. Looking better in every video though.

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thanks, Zach! I'm truly feeling better and better, despite the bad moments. When I'm having a tough time, it's getting easier and easier to be mindful, and understand that the rough moments pass, and all the good feelings that have been dulled for years are finally getting a chance to resurface. But I need to get off the Gabapentin, so I've begun a very slow taper, under the supervision of my doctor. Thanks for your video, discussing Gabapentin. I think it's important for people to know what the doctors aren't always saying.

[@addict2quitwithzach166]

These Four Walls I'm glad to hear at least now you know and can make decisions based on that. That's good you are going slow with it cause it sounds like that stuff can be nasty if you come off too quick. I'm looking forward to getting those feelings back.

[@rossrcfallacaro3422]

How is your anxiety today? What are you doing for anxiety? And if it has gotten better, how long did it last

[@TheseFourWalls]

It took me about 3 months, but I have c- ptsd, so it may take you less time. Distract yourself (binge watching, exercise, build up some support) I'm here if you need to talk! You got this!!

[@OtherSide..]

I'm proud of you good work

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thank you so much, my friend. 🙏 (I love your name!)

[@rossrcfallacaro3422]

I’m doing a 1 week taper off an extremely high dose and that’s it for me. It’s the last med I’m coming off and then I’m DONE. I can’t taper because I have no self control snd rather go through the hell instead of drawing it out. I have no choice. Just Gonna do it and will report back

[@TheseFourWalls]

I'm proud of you, for joining the path to soberity. I'm here if you need some one to talk to! Keep us posted, my warrior friend!

[@rossrcfallacaro3422]

These Four Walls thanks man. I have complex ptsd also from childhood trauma exacerbated by 2 tours in Iraq in 03 and 05. I was on every friggen psych med in the book for years and I managed to come off all of them. I got extremely injured out there and had multiple back surgeries and a knee surgery so I was also on every pain med in the book I managed to come off of. Gabapentin is the LAST med I take and I cannot wait to get off it to finally get my life back. Gabapentin originally helped my anxiety and my pain, but I’ve been on it for about 12 years, and I’ve been on 3600mgs the past 3 years. Every time I’ve tried to taper, I’ve always wound up back on it so a quick week long taper is it for me and I’m never refilling it again. I just want my life back. It has made my anxiety much worse over the years but still hells somewhat. I can live with the pain, it’s the anxiety that kills me, especially between the hours of 4am - when I wake up - and noon... after that it’s still bad, but tolerable. I will keep you posted

[@TheseFourWalls]

@@rossrcfallacaro3422 Hey, friend. Yes, please keep us posted. I'm so sorry to respond so long after your reply, but I was never notified (as usual), so I just now noticed it. I apologize. And thank you for your service, my friend. I hope you're doing well.

[@evalu3260]

I hope congratulations is in order Jason. What a gorgeous looking guy you are. I can’t imagine your need to even try a drug. Good luck with the rest of your life. 💖💕🌹🙏😍

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thank you so much, for such a kind and supportive comment! I really appreciate it. I'm over 5 months sober now, and really looking forward to what my life has to offer. Thank you again for watching, and commenting. 😊💛✌

[@choke_the_woke1179]

I aint doctor either but GABA saved ma ass in my last detox ! I took it only for 2-3 weeks to get over the acute withdraw and then stopped, of course I started by using Loperamide for the first week, Constipation is hell but at least I was off my drug of choice cause of lope, try to eat as lil as you can if you are mega dosing lope or eat something that doesn't turn to stone in your gut before you push it out, then I switched to GABA and it mostdefinitly took 70-80% of my worsts symptoms off, if you happen to have some Benzos for only a week or two MAAAAAAX that can help too, but you go find your own dosage, I'm not gonna tell anybody how much I was taking of each, good luck, oh btw I started hitting the gym after a month or two to help my body and brain recover faster, now im a big ass mofo, you can consider TRT and HCG treatment too as you probably have no fuckin testosterone in your fucking system, which makes you cry like a lil girl, which is normal of course, nothin to be ashamed of, testosterone also gave me a weird high after 3-4 weeks which I can't describe here. its like the magic hormone for a male. peace

[@davidmoore1201]

What mg of gaba

[@choke_the_woke1179]

@@davidmoore1201 3000 worked for me, but you wanna start lower like 1500 first and see if it work ! if not bump in up to 3000 or eve slightly higher if you have to

[@marlbat6075]

i am now going on my opiod withdrawal and gabapentine, its so difficult i really cant survive, what i need to doo?

[@annaxefta2421]

My boyfriend is able to find enough for a couple days. Buy I hope it’s enough for the first week if I stretch it. I get mad anxiety to

[@phillipgeorge4278]

Me to panic

[@yuhhjjj2030]

you got this G

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thanks, friend. 🙏✌

[@lakevagrady9505]

And it's very weird because I wasn't either watching your video explains a lot of symptoms that I have from that particular medicine

[@MaineReactor]

Hey bud, I was prescribed gabapentin for withdrawal as well man and I didn't know I would go through withdrawal from it either. I stopped taking it abruptly and I had withdrawal symptoms for a week or so. My insomnia came back and anxiety, just make sure you taper off it bud. I told my doctor I didn't want anything addictive and he still prescribed it to me. It helped me but I wish I would have researched it as well. Glad I jumped off it now looking back on it! Some crazy shit out there! I read that they give gabapentin for bi-polar in some cases too! Scary! Good to see you bud! Thanks for the info!

[@TheseFourWalls]

I'm really glad to hear the withdrawal only lasted a week for you. Hopefully, by tapering, I can soften the blow a bit. Plus, I haven't been on it long. But yes, it's frustrating that the doctor's aren't a bit more... sensitive and forthcoming with ALL the information. Thanks for your support man!! 😊✌✌

[@kingk5827]

Hey bro my other account got suspended for some reason same username but remember I told u i mistaked my Gaba withdrawal for suboxone and started taking it again, well I weaned myself down again and I haven’t had nothing but my usual suboxone and weed for the past 5-6 days and I’ve been gaming it for the past couple days felt completely fine, day one and day two were shit cause I couldn’t eat nothing at all like last time but after that it was pretty easy! The first time I cold turkey’d this time I weaned down using my scale to about 150mg and it was easy Peasy. Jus thought I’d share my story cause you were asking if I stayed off it!

[@TheseFourWalls]

Awesome job, my friend! Weaning yourself is so important. I'm super proud of you! Thanks for sharing this. Keep up the amazing work!! 💪😉🙏

[@jaco3849]

I have been taking gabapentin for a few years now I take 3, 300mg 3 times per day, it's not the pregablin it's just the normal ones but I can't imagine life without them at the moment, I have tried going through with the withdrawal a few times now but each time it got to much for me to handle and I have went back on them, I don't know what to do anymore, I think the first step in reducing my daily intake then see how it goes from there.

[@TheseFourWalls]

I think that sounds like the perfect first step. 💛

[@jaco3849]

@@TheseFourWalls I have also had a opiate dependence for over 20 years, not been on it for the full 20 year I been on and off so not a stranger to the rattle, I found that taking tramadol and gaba helps get rid of 90 percent of the withdrawl, that's why I started taking the gabas but they are horrendous to get away from. I found that tramadol was easy compared to the gabas to rattle from, I only felt bad for a few days from tramadol and it was more than bearable.

[@TheseFourWalls]

My doc upped my dose of gaba (I was on it prior, for RLS) from 300 mgs a day to 2400 mgs of gaba to help me come off oxycontin. It helped for the first week, so it got me through the worst of the physical... But then I was kept on it for months. I finally asked my doc "should I stop taking this much gaba?" She basically told me to do what I wanted. Then she said "hell, even if you have to take more Gaba to stay off opioids, we're ALL winning." I didn't want to feel "dependant" on another pill. I wanted to be sober. I needed my brain to heal. So I began taking myself of the Gaba. And holy shit!! Coming off of gaba was the WORST! I'd sweat buckets, toss and turn all night. I'd get no sleep, none at all. I had bad headaches and "brain zaps" for a few months, after being completely off the Gaba. And I felt hopeless. So, I began a sloooow taper off the Gaba. It was still rough, but I made it. Dr's should be more forthright with their patients, especially regarding medications that run a high risk of causing dependency. And the withdrawals are no friggin joke.

[@jerryjerry7624]

When I came down from gabs, 600mg daily I was advised to do 20 mg r everything 3 day's, no faster and you'll feel nothing. I have to the it 50m no side effects at all. Jerry

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thanks so much for the advice, Jerry! 😊✌

[@kenyaneal3858]

Whats the dose what does r mean expalin this again pleaseeeeeeeee And thanx for the video iv bn watching reading and learning i neved kbew gaba had all these diff side affects like most drugs thanx for that info

[@martinmena6463]

Thanks for the video I'm starting my withdrawal now pray for me I will pray for you to

[@TheseFourWalls]

🙏🙏🙏

[@mikeflo6459]

How you feel now

[@kickinaddiction]

Thanks for the shout my man! I was talking about your journey today on my live stream. So did the gaba get rid of RLS entirely? I wonder if you’ll still get rls if you end up coming off it or maybe you’ll luck out. Can’t wait to be as far in as you, keep on trucking brother! 💪 👍

[@TheseFourWalls]

Oh damn, I missed your live stream. I'll catch the next one man! Yes, the Gabapentin took care of the restless legs. I only experienced bad restlessness the first 72 hours into my withdrawal. It was a grueling 3 days. But then the physical symptoms either began to ebb, or I got used to them, cuz the rest of the comedown has been primarily mental... Depression, anxiety, cravings. But, mentally, I've prepared for the battle, and I think that made a big difference... Knowing what each stage was/is gonna be like helped me prepare. ✌😊✌

[@SAMEntalhealth]

I would switch every other day xanax and gaba. But then stopped with no issues. Really use it when you need during withdrawal. Kratom helps, and you can develop dependency but it takes a while. It makes you feel normal with some long lasting euphoria and no anxiety. The comedown you would not even notice

[@ashleybutler3644]

I’m in the process of coming off suboxone and was prescribed gaba 3 days ago. I have kratom. Do you think I should alternate the gaba and kratom? To help keep from gaining a dependency? I’m 28 months clean off a 14 yr Xanax habit and don’t ever wanna have those feelings again. Addiction sucks!

[@SAMEntalhealth]

@@ashleybutler3644 that's actually great idea, with non consistent medication. Those 2 totally! Kratom will help you feel better all around, taking away your anxiety and depression. Gabapentin does wonders for sleep. Like wonders. You will sleep. I take 900 mgs for sleep which is relatively low for most people but during withdrawal, probably 1200 mgs. But with Kratom, it works just like suboxone. Except you can't go into precipitated withdrawal so it's good. Red does good for sleep and withdrawal, green is like drinking espresso but not getting hot and sweaty caffeine high(Kratom is coffee plant so similar upper effects without the negative side effects. Check my videos for info I get into kratom. I was addicted to fentanyl pills the pressed m30s which had PCP, Suboxone, Oxycodone and fentanyl all in one pill -_- so imagine

[@SAMEntalhealth]

@@ashleybutler3644 oh if you got off xanax this shouldn't be as bad lol it may be lengthy but not super harsh Some people have panic disorder and it makes symptoms worse but it's not the actual symptoms of withdrawal doing it it's in our heads Scary place to be though

[@ashleybutler3644]

@@SAMEntalhealth I used kratom before while coming off suboxone and Xanax. It worked rather well. Used it for 11 months and noticed my hair falling out. So I went back to suboxone, but am still clean from Xanax. I refuse to ever take ine of those evil things again. Here I am 2 years later ready to give it all up. How long would you say it takes a body to get addicted to either one?

[@ashleybutler3644]

@@SAMEntalhealth I can only imagine what you went through coming off all that! I was addicted to perch and Oxys for 5 years then moved to methadone for a couple years and from there I’ve been on subs for 4 years’ish. I’m ready to tackle this monster once snd for all! How long have you been off? How are you feeling now?

[@SAMEntalhealth]

Music comes back hard lol

[@Seaneey]

I'm about to start withdrawals off oxys & I heard gabapentin can help taking them for a short time.

[@TheseFourWalls]

Yes, Gabapentin helps A LOT! It's just always best to take it for the shortest amount of time possible, as you can develop a dependency on the Gaba as well. (After about 6 to 8 weeks). Congratulations on starting your soberity journey. I'm proud of you, friend.

[@Seaneey]

@@TheseFourWalls I was only able to get 3 300 mg

[@user-nu7km2ez7j]

Did gabapentin help with your oxy withdrawal? I’m a full blown addict taking 7-8 30mg oxys a day. I have gabapentin will it help?

[@Seaneey]

@user-nu7km2ez7j It did for the few I took. You can't do it for long, or you get addicted to those. I ended up going cold turkey & suffered through withdrawals for a couple of weeks. I've been clean ever since & I highly recommend you do it all the way through. It's worth the pain. It's only temporary & the feeling when you're no longer trapped is really nice. You can do it. You're worth getting clean & even though I don't know you, you owe yourself the life you deserve. Good luck, brother.

[@bostonemily617]

Im comming off 2 grams of fetanyl today is day 1. And ive been on gabapebtin for 10 years. I told them baxk in 2010 the withdrawals were so bad i wanted to hang myself. They told me it was in my head. .... Im using my gaba rx to get off the fetanyl. Not working. But i locked myself away for the next week. Im from boston mass. And im so fucken scared. I feel like a lost cause man. Been doing this for 15 years. Im just. Done. 😢

[@TheseFourWalls]

💙💛💙 I'm here for you, my friend ✌😊

[@kristoZen]

The only issue is time itself, believe that Emily, fight the time it takes for these nasty chemicals to leave your body which will inevitably come, the world needs you, push through it and let your natural human self get through this short time period only to look back and learn from the experience.

[@bostonemily617]

Thank you 💜💜💜💜💜

[@michellecisneros2720]

When did you feel yourself again I’ve been 18 days sober and I’m trying not to take anything but I’ve been going through it bad with all this anxiety I don’t know what to do about it . I don’t wanna go back to doing the pills again but I feel so uncomfortable it’s a struggle .

[@TheseFourWalls]

Hello, my friend. Yes, it is a struggle, but you've definitely made it through the worst part, and I'm so proud of you. Congratulations! I started feeling more like myself after 3-3 and 1/2 weeks. But it's different for everyone. It's all a mental battle now. Find a support system. Find ways to occupy your time. Be patient with yourself and kind to yourself, like you would a child. Soberity makes us feel brand new, and brand new can feel raw and uncomfortable until you acclimate a bit more. Pills were our crutch, so now it's time to find healthy coping strategies. Ever minute you're closer to freedom, Michelle. I know things are still tough, but your brain chemicals and receptors take awhile to balance out. I'm in your corner. 🌜🌞🌛 Congrats on fighting so hard to get your life back. You're a warrior. Much strength and many positive vibes, Jay

[@laurachoate5068]

Three years I’ve been made these posts I started watching them because I was going to withdraw as I Watched them and now I’m just curious did you ever stay clean

[@TheseFourWalls]

Hey, my friend! I'm actually releasing a new video this week, talking about how I've hit a few bumps in the road... But each time I've slipped up, I've immediately picked myself back up. Within the past 3 and a half years, I've had maybe 7-9 days where I've relapsed. But that's obviously a far cry from the addict I was before, so I'm not too hard on myself - and I think that's crucial. If we beat ourselves up, we stay down. It's all about picking yourself back up from inevitable stumbles ... Cuz we're human ... We're fallible. But we've all got reservoirs of strength and perseverance within us. And once you've fully recognised and reclaimed your power, you can break free from those chains. Keep fighting, my friend. 🙏✌

[@laurachoate5068]

I’m actually 39 days clean today I just got out of rehab a week ago and I’ve honestly been struggling since coming home and it’s a sign that I’m doing good because I completely forgot about this comment I made two months ago thank you for replying

[@jaimereynolds258]

🙂❤️

[@TheseFourWalls]

💛😊💛

[@schailajohnson6019]

The brain doesn't heal. !!! That's so true

[@SAMEntalhealth]

It heals through influence. Influence forces your chemistry to change... for instance, let's say you're struggling looking for drugs right? And you are driving down the road yadayada, you come across a car accident. You witness it. You see the person needs help and feel you have no choice but to help, so you go involve yourself to see if they're ok. Once you leave there, you'll feel different. Life will hit you in the face and thoughts will race, but it'll humble you, which is a feeling you may have not felt before;-). See me, I always was in the forest, hiking in blizzards, rain, hurricanes, I love the forest. I also love legends of the forests around america, well being obsessed with all that and blinded by addiction, I realize something, why can't I have a career, hobby and home in the forest?!!! My dreams became my goals, but they weren't dreams during using, they were just cool thoughts. Mind you I didn't use subs after 3 days withdrawal. Only used em 2 times and the rest i had to step out into the world!! You can do this!! Are you doing ok?!!

[@TheBipolarOg]

Doctors are supposed to inform us. I had a similar (but different med) experience. I have to have my back fused for 2 bad herniated discs. I'm always honest w/ all docs that I'm BP 1 w/ psychotic features. I said pain meds and certain muscle relaxers were a no-go. Well, the one muscle relaxer they could have prescribed to me out of all of them to be the worst...they prescribed. Luckily 2 days later I know myself well enough to watch for the red flags. My mania isn't like shopping binges...it's like jumping out of cars , thinking I can fly...or worse. I was very lucky, but boy was I pissed. I get and feel your frustration.

[@schailajohnson6019]

The withdrawal is shit. The doctors wont tell you. I been on them for 5 years because I have hip dysplasia and I have emotional issues- vision problems- my hands shake. I feel like throwing up all the time. It gives you anxiety it makes you sad and hopeless. These pills need to be taken off the shelf. I sweat so bad too all day more when I'm trying to sleep. Its horrible!!!!

[@patcruise1323]

If you are not told there is a higher chance that you won't become mentally addicted. The doctor probably thought that if you just used it long enough to get of the opoids you wouldn't become addicted. The mental addiction is the hardest part. It is what will tell you "I don't feel good because I don't have it. I need it." I'll tell you in my opinion what the best thing you might want to take action against this is. Because I know gabapentin. STOP all of your research about it. Forget about the things you have already learned. Do whatever you can to put the info out of you mind. Dumb it down. I know it's hard but don't over analyze it all. Just let it be. Go to the doctor and tell him you want a taper for gabapentin. If he offers a "comfort med" I wouldn't take it. Addiction is one of the reasons people have lost so much faith in medicine and doctor's. Chris from the rewards soul said in one of his videos that when he was in recovery and actually wanted to stay sober. The doctor prescribed him opioids and narcotic medication when he told the receptionist that signed him in. He was given to bracelet signifying that he was an addict and the other signifying that he was in recovery. When he was admitted into a room he told the nurses and the doctor the same thing. When he went to leave the hospital the prescriptions he was given was for narcotic medication. Not all doctors are like this though. There are doctors that do have respect. There are also doctors that just care about growing their bank account and pushing as many pills as they can. That's why they say that we are responsible for our own recovery. In our dealings with doctors we can decide what to take and what not to take. Because even if you tell them all that and they still give you something and you take it it could mess up what you have going on. There is no way I would expect you to know this. You are fresh out of the gate. I would recommend that you also look up the pamphlet from na called in "times of sickness." I'm pretty sure that you can find it online. It is very helpful. I have had many friends get tripped up on gabapentin. It's a nerve pills that can also affect your moods in a positive way. Because of this medicine I have been so many people relapse. They will start taking it will be fine. The doctor will either cut them off of it or they will try to stop taking it or something like that and they relapse. But it's because they're either not taking it as their intended to or they stay on the medication too long. Also they use the medications but don't learn any real coping tools that are to be used in place of them. You are through the worst of it. I promise you. You are better off on a non narcotic medication. I my state the consider gabapentin as a narcotic and the place that I go to receive counseling will not prescribe it or obviously won't let you have it in your system if you don't have a prescription from another doctor. Also I want to know what area you live in. I'm guessing Maine? But let me know.

[@TheseFourWalls]

Thank you so very much, for your thoughtful comment and advice. (I live in upstate N.Y.) I plan on talking to my doctor about tapering me off, slowly. Because I want my brain to have the best chance to heal, from 13 years of opiate abuse, and I don't think Gabapentin is helpful for that. But I'm also cautious, because I don't want to overwhelm myself at this point in my recovery. So I'm being very mindful, and keeping myself patient as possible. I really appreciate your thoughtful advice, and your support! ✌😊

[@patcruise1323]

@@TheseFourWalls That sounds like a very good plan. Always talk to your doctor of course. Being honest with a doctor is very important for us to do. It also can be especially hard for us. I didn't mean to overwhelm you in any way. I know you will hear it In the rooms about dumbing it down and making it as simple as possible. It really helps. Sometime when researching something so much we set our brains up to go in a million different directions. I live in Kentucky and I attend a counseling service tailored to rehabilitation from addiction. It really helps to learn, to talk things out, plan and have people to help hold you accountable. But I realize with the agoraphobia that you face that isn't an option for you right now. But attending a physical support group can really help you to open up and step out of your comfort zone. Something none of us love to do. But all in good time I think it might be beneficial. Personally it gives me something to look forward to. To get out, see and converse with my friends and help me deal with situations that I need help on. I have definitely been anti-social and of course I am very awkward. Social situations are extremely challenging for me. Alot of times I find them to be excruciating. Im also wondering if for you the agoraphobia came before the drugs and was worsened by use. Or if it was purely manifested by use? But with anything practice makes things so much easier. All in good time of course with a smooth easy transition. The best way to make a difference is to get out there and get your hands dirty. But I highly admire you for taking this on here with KZbin. We need more of this here. You are very brave and I am very proud of you. Every person on this planet can make a difference and it is so heartwarming to see you do it in this way. Keep coming back. We need you.

[@TheseFourWalls]

@@patcruise1323 You didn't overwhelm me at all, I thoroughly enjoy everyone's advice and input! Thank you for your comments. To answer your question, I firmly believe the pills caused my social anxiety to become full blown agoraphobia. Before I started taking pills, I was social, I visited people regularly. Ran all my own errands. Everything. It was about 5 or 6 years into the addiction - when I was 28 - that I started having panic attacks every single time I'd step out the front door. Over the past couple years, through working with an in-house therapist, I've been able to broaden my world a bit. I can go get my mail somedays, on my own. I can go to the store somedays, IF I'm with someone I trust. And these are things that, a couple years ago, were impossible for me. But eventually I'd love to be able to go to physical meetings, and think they'd be more beneficial. Thanks for your supportive comments. 😊✌

[@patcruise1323]

@@TheseFourWalls Ok. Yes I definitely found the same issue with myself. For me the drug use made me extremely nervous, anxious and anti-social. It wasn't until I got into recovery that I realized that the reason I was so anxious and anti-social when around people was because I didn't want them to see behind the mask. I was afraid I would be found out in some way or another. I was afraid that are there is one discover she's not normal. (As if there is such a thing) There is something wrong with her. Just like with eye contact. For a very long time I could not look anyone in the eye when I'm speaking to them for more than just a second or two. Eye contact with very few and far between. My disease wanted me all to itself, sitting in a dark room alone and unlovable. It wanted me to believe that I was being damaged beyond repair. It made me fear confessing or asking for help. that is what is so dangerous about this disease. It wants to keep you isolated and completely dependent. But coming off of the drugs and working on myself helped me get over the shame from my past and I didnt have to hide anymore. Of course that all took time. Growing up with emotionally abusive father who also happened to be a quote functioning alcoholic really always made me feel like I was less than. Even before my drug use. Then you add my drug use on top of it and with my drug of choice I was not able to function. In any fashion. Unless I had it. So that added to the feeling of feeling less than. I felt like the black sheep. The outcast. The one that you looked to as the failure. And so I set out to prove myself right. I had zero confidence in myself. It took a lot of positive self-affirmations self-care and positive self-talk to train my brain into realizing I'm a person. That I make mistakes. But I am human. That I deserve to love myself and to let myself be loved by others. I value myself today. That is what recovery has given me. I guarantee you if you give it a little bit of time and self-discovery and self-love that you will come away from all of this ready to face the world. It takes work but if you put in that work, those feelings will diminish greatly if not completely disappearing altogether. Just start by telling yourself every day that you're worth it. You are worth everything that this life and these people that you can have relationships with, have to offer. 💗💗💗💗

[@TheseFourWalls]

@@patcruise1323 Yes, it certainly is a disease that likes to isolate us. In every way. And now there's going to be a process of relearning who I am... I'm very excited to be working toward something now. It's given me a lot of purpose. And hearing all of your stories and triumphs is giving me a lot of hope. Thanks for sharing with me, and identifying.

[@HappyHermitt]

Smoking a lil bit of cannabis helps a lot.

[@fed6997]

Are u still clean? It's my day 17 off opioids. I can sleep until 3 o clock and my body is restless. When did it stop? thx for this video for my 17th day ❤️

[@TheseFourWalls]

Yes, I'm still clean. For me, the restless was almost all gone by 30 days. Although, I did have several restless nights for the first 3 months. They just slowly went completely away after that. Congratulations on how far you've come, my friend. One day at a time. I'm here for support, anytime. ✌😊

[@kirkwoodgillespie5424]

I honestly think your anxiety is what is causing the symptoms your mistaking for "withdrawal". I could be wrong, but my guess is you're stressing out that there's nothing in your system and that anxiety is causing sweats, anxiety etc.

[@TheseFourWalls]

I think you're right. Now that I'm a year into recovery, I can look back more objectively... And I think that the stress and anxiety wreaked havoc on my system. Thank you for watching, and for your comment. ✌

[@kirkwoodgillespie5424]

No problem man, good luck to you and keep going!!

[@vaskylark]

@@TheseFourWalls No I bet it was withdrawals you were experiencing. If you were on Percs for a long time, like years, it can take your body years to recover. PAWS is real!

[@OGmediahub]

How could gabapentin makes you addicted if it doesn’t make you high ??? I take it at night for the night sweats otherwise its game over …

[@Rackus82]

Damn.....I knew Gabba was too good to be true.....now I start the detox from it......FML.

[@TheseFourWalls]

Sending you peace, strength, and all-around good vibes, friend. Fight on! ✌🙏

[@blacakcartel8824]

Hey am about to go into withdraw i just want to go on withdraw for 24 hours so i can take suboxone wish me luck i have a couple gabapentins ama take them to help

[@TheseFourWalls]

Best of luck to you, my friend. You can do this!

[@22Trapstar]

Did it work ?

[@annaxefta2421]

Where did u get gabapention

[@annaxefta2421]

But did it help ??

[@TheseFourWalls]

Hi, thanks for your comments. I got a prescription from my doctor for the Gabapentin, cuz I had restless legs when I tried to sleep at night. But the Gabapentin was upped because, yes, it helps with withdrawals. 😊✌

[@annaxefta2421]

I’m trying to get some by wed Trying again but this time I’m flying to my sisters 12 hours away and staying for a month. But I’m scared to death

[@TheseFourWalls]

It's natural to be scared, but I believe in you. Just take it one minute at a time... It gets better, but it's gonna be hard at first; forming better habits, learning new coping skills, and reaching out when you need support is crucial. If you ever need to message me, my email is [e-mail]. Stay strong, my friend. ✌💛😊

[@doingme8384]

Anna Xefta how are you? This was almost a year ago.

[@tomshortstop14]

How come you seem so well your first days those are he worst help me!

[@wadeboothe4397]

I used Gabapentin for 4 days. That stuff makes you feel like shit all slow and tired. Once withdrawals were done i got off that shit.

[@detroitbaby4946]

Hi I was using 2400 MG a day for like 7 weeks and 3 days now I quit cold turkey how long did your whithdrawl stop or atleast get half easier

[@wadeboothe4397]

@@detroitbaby4946 I never used it long enough to get dependent on Gabapentin. I just took it for withdrawals and that was that.

[@TheseFourWalls]

@detroit baby - I was on about 1800 to 2400 Mgs a day for about 6 months, and my withdrawal lasted about 12-14 days. (If possible, you want to try to wean yourself down a bit.) But hopefully all is well, and you're doing better now. Be proud of yourself for every little victory, big or small. And don't be hard on yourself if your recovery looks different from someone else's... We are all on the same journey (if the destination is soberity) but no two paths are exactly alike. Much light and love, fellow warrior. 💪😊🌻

[@petermeo9087]

Yes thats the only way to use gaba, 10 day max for acute withdrawa.and stopl anything you continually use you will become accustomed to.i use high dose gaba 5/10days then Imodium at high dose then taper for 3 days this works .good luck people from n.z

[@MICKEYISLOWD]

I am a opiate addict and I am on Gabapentin. I don't do opiates anymore but now I'm stuck on Gabapentin. I have to say this that coming off Gaba is far worse than opiates. It took two weeks to feel better after stopping opiates and it was very painful for me as I had every symptom the worst being insomnia and RLS. I tried cold turkey with Gabapentin and after just 3 days I was out of my mind with all the symptoms of opiate withdrawals but much more severe in intensity. I also had blurred vision, very rapid heart rate, and terrible thought that frankly scared the living shit out of me. I had to throw in the towel and take Gaba again which left me in tears feeling trapped for life. I am now going to try water titration tapering which will take probably anywhere from 6 months to 18 months. Cold turkey is very dangerous with Gaba and I'm just saying you don't have to have that hellish experience if you are patient enough to taper over a very long time period. Stay safe guys:)

[@wsphxrubii6753]

This is how I feel as well. But on fentanyl pills. The sickness is so scary and hurts every inch in my body and mind. I see going to doctors will not help me if they are only prescribing another addiction.

[@wsphxrubii6753]

The insomnia and cold shakes were the death of me. I have experienced the greatest terror. It really does scare me to the extent. The withdrawals are so real. I hope soon to start myself cleaning for real. Reading these comments really gives me the balls to fucking push myself!!

[@michellecogdill6128]

@cross hatch What does aac mean and chasing a brown dot mean?

[@SAMEntalhealth]

@@wsphxrubii6753 check my videos. I was hooked on the M fent Boxes. I give advice and tips if you need

[@SAMEntalhealth]

I was on 900 mg max, did that for 2 weeks, then 600 for 2, then 300 for 3, and stopped. I guess it's all depending on your tolerance. I heard some take thousands of mgs is that true?

[@texastoast5202]

How much gaba were u taking ?

[@TheseFourWalls]

2400 mgs a day, for about 8 months. ✌

[@texastoast5202]

@@TheseFourWalls why so long?

[@texastoast5202]

@@TheseFourWalls Are you still clean today?

[@TheseFourWalls]

I was actually on it for a few months before I decided to quit percs, due to nerve pain and damage. My dose was increased to help with the withdrawals, and I was just left on it too long. And yes, I'm still clean, still going strong. (2 and a half years) Thanks for asking, friend. Be well. ✌🙏

[@gabriellebernard198]

What a beautiful face

[@TheseFourWalls]

You're very kind, thank you for the comment my friend. ✌🙏

[@erikgreeno6136]

Dang dude great insight. I'm literally chizzling away each day till I'm down to sub/gaba flakes . I'm at 2mg sub and about 80mg of gaba. I was on 16 sub and 900mg gabapentin. gonna have to bite the bullet soon..keep up the great hustle! youtube - Wes Roman. I share my experience when I was coming of harder substances. it's an ongoing process. anyways keep it up 👍🤛

[@TheseFourWalls]

Day by day, my brother. I'm proud of you. Much respect and admiration. Thanks for your kind comment. 💪😊👊

[@anthonyvee9267]

I did the same. Only I used pregabalin (Lyrica) instead of gabapentin. I felt when taking the nerve meds you only had to use very tiny amounts of sub. I felt they potentiated each other. So using the smallest amounts of each is the trick. Try doing so while away from work if you can because its much easier chilling detoxing than it is at work where your anxiety/agitation will rise and cause you to break.

[@acookiecutterstory2897]

All I know is that 2 years into my addiction I was on high doses of gaba and my family and friends saw my light go out. My kids were real small when I came off. I don't recommend doing what I did. I didn't taper and it was personally horrific for me. The gaba benefits didn't outweigh the risk. I thought it was just me being depressed and didn't believe anyone that was like whoa something is way wrong with you on this medication. Not saying its the case for everybody but like you said if you research the drug you'll figure it out real quick why it may not be a god send for everyone with chronic pain who takes it.

[@TheseFourWalls]

I couldn't agree with you more, and that's what I was hoping to get across... To just do your research, cuz it's far from a perfect fit, for many. (And I totally respect that it works wonders for many... I just think, as an addict who suffers with depression, it's not going to benefit me for long...) 😊✌💛

[@CMoore8539]

These Four Walls I’m glad that you brought this up, Jason, cause I recently had a dr prescribe gabapentin to me. I have only taken a couple of them, so they aren’t in my system. Just wait till I tell my doctor, off! Shame on them! They know what they are doing. Just take it slow, Jason. You are off off Opiates. That’s the hard part. I am pissed at those drs too.

[@TheseFourWalls]

@@CMoore8539 I completely understand your frustrations, Cindy. 💛

[@Insertnamehereplz]

I’m on gabapentin for withdrawls

[@TheseFourWalls]

They were a lifesaver for me... They were just trickery for me (personally) to quit, after I didn't need them anymore. A super-slow taper of the gaba finally worked. 🙏☺ So glad they benefited you.

[@lillacoix9808]

@@TheseFourWalls how long were you on the gabapentin when you tried to stop them (following your opiate withdrawal)?

[@lillacoix9808]

@@TheseFourWalls I'm getting ready to withdrawal from high dose of opiate pain meds so thats why I ask❤❤

[@TheseFourWalls]

I'd actually been on Gabapentin for about 6 months (for a different issue) before I began my detox. When I started my soberity journey, the Doctor upped my dosage. So, in total, I was on it for well over a year. Congratulations for beginning your own soberity journey. I'm very proud of you. 💛 Gabapentin certainly helps the withdrawals. I just recommend talking to your doctor about your concerns, and staying on it for the shortest amount of time possible. 🙏 Thank you for your comments,

[@joshuaharrington5994]

Yes in fact the good thing about gabapentin is it’s non addictive so very very safe to use compared to zopiclone diazepam rivitril I would actually say gabapentin is safer than paracetamol

[@kx250braap]

Gabapentin is addictive just takes awhile and is leaps and bounds better than opiates

[@blacakcartel8824]

But after all did gabbapentin help you throu your Withdraw

[@TheseFourWalls]

Yes, it did. And I'm very grateful for that. But then I found the gaba hard to get off, too. Very hard. You will need to taper very slowly off the Gabapentin.

[@blacakcartel8824]

These Four Walls how much do you recommend taking i got the 600mg

[@blacakcartel8824]

I have suboxone too bit since i have to wait 24 hours to take it

[@TheseFourWalls]

Taking 600 mgs, 3 times a day, helped me enough to get by. ✌

[@blacakcartel8824]

These Four Walls thank you

[@lakevagrady9505]

And they said it was an addictive at all

[@TheseFourWalls]

I was told Gabapentin wasn't habit forming... But, for me, it was just as hard to get off as the painkillers were. Many people have no trouble getting off Gaba. Unfortunately I wasn't one of those people. Thanks for commenting, friend.

[@SAMEntalhealth]

I made some videos check them out!

[@annaxefta2421]

Im

[@SAMEntalhealth]

The brain heals through influence. Influence forces your chemistry to change... for instance, let's say you're struggling looking for drugs right? And you are driving down the road yadayada, you come across a car accident. You witness it. You see the person needs help and feel you have no choice but to help, so you go involve yourself to see if they're ok. Once you leave there, you'll feel different. Life will hit you in the face and thoughts will race, but it'll humble you, which is a feeling you may have not felt before;-). See me, I always was in the forest, hiking in blizzards, rain, hurricanes, I love the forest. I also love legends of the forests around america, well being obsessed with all that and blinded by addiction, I realize something, why can't I have a career, hobby and home in the forest?!!! My dreams became my goals, but they weren't dreams during using, they were just cool thoughts. Mind you I didn't use subs after 3 days withdrawal. Only used em 2 times and the rest i had to step out into the world!! You can do this!! Are you doing ok?!!

[@kingkiller_1001]

Dude it's a chore to watch this video

[@TheseFourWalls]

Sorry dude. Guess it's hard to be entertaining when you're coming off drugs. If I ever relapse though, I promise to try harder. ✌🏼