Day 2 - America's Cup - A Close Call - 13-10-24

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@Moamanly
@Moamanly Ай бұрын
Matt Sheahan's reports have very quickly become my go-to race reviews. No hyperbole just excellent journalism and editing making it so informative for a non-sailor like myself.
@attilaplasch6814
@attilaplasch6814 Ай бұрын
I agree with you. Matt Sheahan's coverage has been terrific!
@ricklyons6197
@ricklyons6197 Ай бұрын
Probably would not be watching the cup if planet sail and mozzy sails weren't doing their superb coverage and analysis.
@moonfam4
@moonfam4 Ай бұрын
As a non sailor, I enjoy the analysis of both Mozzy Sails and Planet Sail as well. I would still watch, but would know less about what was going on.
@peterebel7899
@peterebel7899 Ай бұрын
So the Brits provide a decent value to the cup.
@benjaminwilshere7405
@benjaminwilshere7405 Ай бұрын
Ineos' Inside Tack show they do is great also
@jamesbong4928
@jamesbong4928 Ай бұрын
Gosh in NZ it'll be absolutely unavoidable as always.
@enzeda
@enzeda Ай бұрын
Another excellent summary of the day's AC racing. Britannia chasing and waiting for a TNZ error is ominous
@Drifty325i
@Drifty325i Ай бұрын
Man that Kiwi boat and crew look good, slick! looking forward to higher winds to see if Ineos can put up a fight, she looked good when it got up the other day, was very impressed with them in the lead up
@Drifty325i
@Drifty325i Ай бұрын
I’m a Kiwi so go ETNZ but let’s see some close racing!!
@MrToddness
@MrToddness Ай бұрын
Love these reports and lack of bias.
@benlu
@benlu Ай бұрын
Dylan fletcher owns that penalty as he helms on that side of the boat. He’s got to defend(turn) way faster given he’s in such a weak port starboard position in the box
@Kelvinpaul4
@Kelvinpaul4 Ай бұрын
Yeah, that turning circle was almost 90 degree turn and they seem to point higber as well. I have a feeling any match racing tacking duels will be playing into the NZ boat design strengths.
@peterebel7899
@peterebel7899 Ай бұрын
This was the design game.
@jamesbong4928
@jamesbong4928 Ай бұрын
Yeah this is looking more and more like men against boys, hope it changes though.
@INTELIBUILD
@INTELIBUILD Ай бұрын
Rays dig at Sir Ainslie was brilliant! Looking forward to more engagement in the coming days! Go Kiwis
@SuperReasonable
@SuperReasonable Ай бұрын
Do you dislike Ben? Is he hated in NZ, or is it just sledging?
@INTELIBUILD
@INTELIBUILD Ай бұрын
@@SuperReasonable I’m not from NZ, but am a Kiwi fan. I enjoyed the dig from Ray!
@jamesbong4928
@jamesbong4928 Ай бұрын
When did this happen & who's Ray?
@barrypope4358
@barrypope4358 Ай бұрын
All through the Qualifying and LV regatta it was noted that Britannia's Achilles heel was light wind performance. It will be interesting to see them race against TNZ in 12-15 knot range.
@outthereindustries7413
@outthereindustries7413 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the great daily insights. As a Kiwi we really do know that it an't over till the fat lady sings. Pressure on both teams to win the final race, what an event.
@dadcooks1347
@dadcooks1347 Ай бұрын
ETNZ's automatic/link controlled heal control during manoeuvres seems to be flying under the radar. Love it.
@EnglishLawyer
@EnglishLawyer Ай бұрын
Can you please explain?
@floodo1
@floodo1 Ай бұрын
pretty sure NZ has the best control systems
@dadcooks1347
@dadcooks1347 Ай бұрын
@@EnglishLawyer it’s hard to explain, easier if you watch the onboard footage of the race (posted on KZbin) watch that and pay attention to the heel angles when NZ are going to windward, they have a windward heel, and when they put the board down to tack, the boat instantly heels to leeward and maintains that precise heel angle all the way through the manoeuvre and on the next tack. They do the same with the mast rotation, the board drop triggers the mast to rotate automatically to the new tack position. The mast rotation one is well known, but the heel angle has not been mentioned that I have heard. It’s amazing to see it working from the onboard footage. I assume it’s auto adjusting the foil cant angle and maybe others as well. It’s why they are accelerating faster out of tacks I think.
@Moamanly
@Moamanly Ай бұрын
@@dadcooks1347 Wow! Excellent analysis, thanks.
@peterebel7899
@peterebel7899 Ай бұрын
@@dadcooks1347 Why aren't other teams as smart as some Kiwis from the dark backside of the planet?
@johnbenefield922
@johnbenefield922 Ай бұрын
Great unbiased informative commentary. Thankyou
@warwickblach1828
@warwickblach1828 Ай бұрын
I agree with everyone, Great reporting Matt Sheahan, you and your team should be the only ones reporting . Well Done
@abreidtooldiemakingenginee5676
@abreidtooldiemakingenginee5676 Ай бұрын
Great breakdown your an interesting man to listen to.
@marknicol4957
@marknicol4957 Ай бұрын
Higher and faster always wins. ETNZ VMG has always been one of there go to.
@ObiePaddles
@ObiePaddles Ай бұрын
Locked horns and nearly locked foils!
@Alfonso_111
@Alfonso_111 Ай бұрын
Ineos were loving the loop back so they could chase but hadnt prepared themselves for a dial up situation... completely caught out at their own game. They are looking very rattled now.
@ObiePaddles
@ObiePaddles Ай бұрын
Give Nathan Outridge a kiwi passport.
@OGMoses_
@OGMoses_ Ай бұрын
Nathan has been the best addition to ETNZ this cup such a talented skipper and it looks like he fits in nicely the Britts have got a tough job ahead
@asterixdogmatix1073
@asterixdogmatix1073 Ай бұрын
Emma Outridge, (his wife) is a Kiwi and they have lived in Auckland with their children for a while.
@EnglishLawyer
@EnglishLawyer Ай бұрын
He probably has one as he had to meet the Nationality Rules surrounding the AM Cup and in any event, NZ has the North Island, the South Island and the West Island sometimes called Ozzie (Australia) so all good. LOL
@asterixdogmatix1073
@asterixdogmatix1073 Ай бұрын
@@EnglishLawyer New Zealand is happy to give Australia Russell Crowe in exchange for Nathan Outridge and Glen Ashby.
@EnglishLawyer
@EnglishLawyer Ай бұрын
@@asterixdogmatix1073 Absolutely! No argument there. NZ would be on the winning side! Glen is a legend. No doubt. The best in the world and Nathan is proving himself
@dadcooks1347
@dadcooks1347 Ай бұрын
If you were keeping clear, the diamonds wouldn't have crossed would they? Weird statement by Sir Ben. If the tables were turned he would think it was a great move in the pre-start.
@EnglishLawyer
@EnglishLawyer Ай бұрын
I think Ben needs to go to Specsavers. He seems a little myopic
@Moamanly
@Moamanly Ай бұрын
Yeah, my bs metre was on high alert during that interview. He must have thought he was sailing down the Nile.......
@peterebel7899
@peterebel7899 Ай бұрын
Never turn the table over a Sir!
@fffuuuu2
@fffuuuu2 Ай бұрын
I think what he meant is that Burling was changing the course as he tried to go deeper
@cubatea
@cubatea Ай бұрын
Been waiting for your video for hours. Thanks as always. No mention of Ben’s swearing at the TV interviewer on the live feed ?
@daniel.mcleay
@daniel.mcleay Ай бұрын
Yeah strange, in most sports you would be fined $ or other action. Not a great look, but tbh the commentator is not great and is kinda annoying. But still it’s a rough look for the sport
@roderick167
@roderick167 Ай бұрын
are you referring to steven telling there are positives with Britain speed, then Ben saying to steven "it must be the kiwi inside saying that", and Steven replying "I'll take that on the chin"?
@benjamindewes2345
@benjamindewes2345 Ай бұрын
​@@roderick167 then a few seconds later he says fudgin anchor😂😂😂
@davidr5597
@davidr5597 Ай бұрын
​@roderick167 yes, followed by "total (or utter) w@nk3r" on the boat comms before they were cut.
@actiaint
@actiaint Ай бұрын
To be fair it sounded like Steve said i “dont” get that feeling coming off uour boat, which i think is how Ben heard it. In actual fact stdve never said “dont” and was meaning to praise Ineos attitude not diss it.
@artistglyn
@artistglyn Ай бұрын
I think the momentum is already well in the Kiwis favour. For all his chat Ainsley looks haunted and rattled. They need to up their game.
@jackweta
@jackweta Ай бұрын
So many races to go epic a true test
@attilaplasch6814
@attilaplasch6814 Ай бұрын
As a witness to the 34th America's cup.... it not over until the last race. I'm looking forward to seeing how Team Ineos/Britannia respond to this situation.
@RodneyRowlands
@RodneyRowlands Ай бұрын
One heck of a battle! As a pombe I'm rooting for Inios however, I have a great respect for New Zealand team. Its a sport!, a great sport. giving us great entertainment. God bless you both for your efforts.
@davidtydeman1434
@davidtydeman1434 Ай бұрын
The kiwis are better at 1) starting, 2) tacking, 3) upwind, 4) downwind, 5) mark rounding. Unless something dramatic happens this going to be over quickly
@pauljamison3340
@pauljamison3340 Ай бұрын
How could Ainslie say he was keeping clear when TNZ had to take evasive action to avoid a collision??????
@actiaint
@actiaint Ай бұрын
Its not a new rudder. Tnz have already said it is same rudder.
@peterebel7899
@peterebel7899 Ай бұрын
A rudder is a rudder is a rudder
@TT-bs2vm
@TT-bs2vm Ай бұрын
Sir Ben is rudderless, so to speak.
@dennisnguyen8105
@dennisnguyen8105 Ай бұрын
American here. That statement did it for me. Not that I was a neutral before but I don't want the Brits to win, not that they would.
@cooldude.1811
@cooldude.1811 Ай бұрын
The Kiwis seem to have a boat that is better set up for the lighter winds that have prevailed in the two days thus far. It would be interesting to see if they can continue to maintain their lead in stronger winds around 15-20 knots, or if Britannia can reverse this trend.
@garygavin857
@garygavin857 Ай бұрын
So much better comments here than the TV glee club. Ineos starts, low wind range are its weak points. Should the weather change then Britannia comes into its own. 2 sec NZ gain on speeding out off jibes is interesting as this all adds up. Ineos gained by a race cancelled a better chance for changes too arrive. Lets hope they get too fire some shots. They have 4 shots left to do so. The Brain trust will be working overtime.
@greyhamlogan2255
@greyhamlogan2255 Ай бұрын
Ask Spithall how he fared against the Kiwis in the pre starts in the last regatta Ben.
@NobodyOfNote-qv5wh
@NobodyOfNote-qv5wh Ай бұрын
How did Spithill do in 2013 against the Kiwis?😂
@stevenbissett
@stevenbissett Ай бұрын
This is the race committee. We are shortening your comments to two words.
@Moamanly
@Moamanly Ай бұрын
😀
@peterebel7899
@peterebel7899 Ай бұрын
This is the empires: Penalty commentator - give 75 words back!
@stevenbissett
@stevenbissett Ай бұрын
@peterebel7899 This is the race committee. You have been awarded Sir Ben Ainsley's two words.
@antsbull3370
@antsbull3370 Ай бұрын
Its pretty interesting given Ineos had a budget 2x that of ETNZ
@LukeDraper-p6u
@LukeDraper-p6u Ай бұрын
Pretty interesting given that etnz wrote the rules.
@TheLeg_11
@TheLeg_11 Ай бұрын
@@LukeDraper-p6u Does the challenger of record not help write the rule?
@petecresswell227
@petecresswell227 Ай бұрын
@@LukeDraper-p6u TNZ and Ineos (Challenger of Record) jointly agreed the rules ...
@Jasperdog3329
@Jasperdog3329 Ай бұрын
@@LukeDraper-p6u Tell us you don't understand how the challenger of record and the defender jointly create the rules and protocol without telling us you don't understand how the challenger of record and the defender jointly create the rules and protocol.
@diyguru9677
@diyguru9677 Ай бұрын
@@LukeDraper-p6u The rules are written and agreed to by both defender and challenger of record which, in case you're unaware, is Britannica.
@randysmitchell4810
@randysmitchell4810 Ай бұрын
I would watch this gentleman calling a Tiddly-Winks Match.
@antoinep9733
@antoinep9733 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your excellent coverage, it’s top-class journalism. The independent commentators like yourself are doing a much better job than the official channels. As a Kiwi, I’m kind of embarrassed by some of our commentary. It’s truly cringeworthy. 🤢
@PeterParslow
@PeterParslow 25 күн бұрын
NZ: seven wins in light winds & quiet seas. UK: two wins in slightly more wind & a bit of chop.
@ptewilks2634
@ptewilks2634 Ай бұрын
Matt always the best thnx; the cup race course has to change ; or we just do 7 starts; there is no way by no passing its a joke the Cup has moved on with the boats but the courses have not, something has to change for the next 38th cup; but up down courses have seen there day.
@howzat95
@howzat95 Ай бұрын
Has Ben not been asked about the wanker comment?
@moonfam4
@moonfam4 Ай бұрын
as a kiwi, Bens analysis was spot on
@barneyrubble9309
@barneyrubble9309 Ай бұрын
When the holders can get all the data from the challenge series but the challenger gets zip from the holders must be a huge advantage. This will be a white wash sadly. The way the rules favour the holder so much i dont see anyone beating the kiwis for a very long time.
@jonnyrush1
@jonnyrush1 Ай бұрын
They are calling it close and have to find a solution yes the wind 💨 and tacking settings and technology and design starts are big. As a Kiwi we want the AC again but a competitive series is good for the sport and higher winds no delays but it is part of the Cup Cheers
@davidsinclair6425
@davidsinclair6425 Ай бұрын
Time to put Giles back on the boat? When he was on last time the chat seemed to have more 'spark'
@antjetautkus5506
@antjetautkus5506 Ай бұрын
Kiwis 🥝 🥝 🥝 🥝 🥝 🥝 🥝 🥝 simply the best 👌 👍...bring it 🏆 home guys 😊
@graemerae4551
@graemerae4551 Ай бұрын
Why is there only 6 laps in the final but 8 in the LV final >? Seems very odd.
@Mickeysternum245
@Mickeysternum245 Ай бұрын
There is 8 legs, but we’ve only had one at the full 8 because the wind strength has been down in the other two so they were shortened to 6
@adrianwright8685
@adrianwright8685 Ай бұрын
NZ appear to have a boat that is about 1.5% faster!
@hogwash1462
@hogwash1462 Ай бұрын
Be nice to Ben. Don't get him angry.......
@nem447
@nem447 Ай бұрын
Lets be honest, after the LVC Ben thought he was the start box king, then got taken to school...
@AUmarcus
@AUmarcus Ай бұрын
It ain't comin' 'ome.
@hogwash1462
@hogwash1462 Ай бұрын
It ain't been decided yet. 2013?
@AUmarcus
@AUmarcus Ай бұрын
@@hogwash1462 It's all over bar the Pommie whining. 🤣👍
@hogwash1462
@hogwash1462 Ай бұрын
@@AUmarcus Really? ETNZ just shown to be fallible.
@AUmarcus
@AUmarcus Ай бұрын
Kiwis are just better....simple as that.
@kiwioffgrid2437
@kiwioffgrid2437 Ай бұрын
Given that NZ is clearly the faster boat in these lighter conditions will Ben use the closeness during the pre start and attempt to take out the nz boat. I suspect that we will see super aggresive prestarts, prestart targeting and intentionally created collisions. All NZ has to do is keep clear during the prestart. With having the faster boat, it doesn't matter if NZ looses the prestart.
@anmihovil
@anmihovil Ай бұрын
You should check the data mate. It's not the speed difference killing the Brits. It's something much more painful.
@GGxKiwi
@GGxKiwi Ай бұрын
Delusional mate. No one is going to try and take out anyone's boat.
@JulietUla-v7q
@JulietUla-v7q Ай бұрын
Batz Ports
@maitaimik
@maitaimik Ай бұрын
What are the odds on a Kiwi whitewash ? Ainslie just hasn't got what is needed.
@SuperReasonable
@SuperReasonable Ай бұрын
Sadly, I can see a whitewash unless the breeze increases.
@floodo1
@floodo1 Ай бұрын
7 nil incoming?
@peterebel7899
@peterebel7899 Ай бұрын
7 1
@manudajee5370
@manudajee5370 Ай бұрын
Stick it to them boys 🤙🤙🤙🤙🙏🙏🙏🙏
@brucefale6132
@brucefale6132 Ай бұрын
You thought you were keeping clear....cmon Ben...lol
@noone-ld7pt
@noone-ld7pt Ай бұрын
he was on the other side of the fucking sail dude, this one is 100% on his co-helmsman.
@brucefale6132
@brucefale6132 Ай бұрын
@@noone-ld7pt Ben is a has been.
@Columbi007
@Columbi007 Ай бұрын
the whole maneuver from entz they change course all the time. And if a right of way boat is changing course it has to give room to keep clear RRS 16.1 And now tell me at which moment entz altered course ?
@Jasperdog3329
@Jasperdog3329 Ай бұрын
Wow, what a completely wrong look at the incident. NZ was on starboard, GB was the keep clear boat and did not move nearly quick enough to avoid a collision. NZ had to alter course to keep clear and the boats still got their umpire diamonds hugely overlapped, hence the penalty to GB. This could not have been a more clear cut penalty if you tried. Take your GB biased-glasses off and actually look at the incident again. Nobody believes that NZ was the at-fault boat there.
@williamrichards656
@williamrichards656 Ай бұрын
Im hoping we can get back to some proper saiing, its hardly interesting to watch.
@victorlarkins2404
@victorlarkins2404 Ай бұрын
Got to be humble though anything can happen...up etnz blehhhhhhhhhhh 😜
@EnglishLawyer
@EnglishLawyer Ай бұрын
Ainslie has form. in 2017 he ploughed into the back of Team NZ during the dial up causing significant damage to Team NZ. He then collided with the Japanese entry SoftBank causing major damage. Both times he was penalised and yet today he nearly did the same thing and it was only pure luck that the foils didn't tangle. Again he was penalised. You can't win the America's Cup by causing damage and being penalised. Maybe this isn't his game and he should get out of the sandpit and let others play.
@Alfonso_111
@Alfonso_111 Ай бұрын
@@EnglishLawyer Well remembered. Did he not crash a few times in Sail GP as well? His aggression gets the better of him sometimes.
@MarkMoore-l4g
@MarkMoore-l4g Ай бұрын
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@Silvius.2
@Silvius.2 Ай бұрын
3:50 sorry Ben was at starboard... wow he can telling was no penalty? Why then sail into penalty, before turning sailing dozens meters straight💁‍♂️🫣 Ben was to late steering? Seen long before where kiwis steering sorry. Im not want blame british but was taking penalty own totally... Kiwis made taihoro race fit. Mozzy sail channel telling weeks ago that's kiwis sail trimming is not effective and uses to mutch from cyclists😆. Kiwis sails and controls is good. Mozzy channel also telling kiwis foils are not strong enough. British boat is good but this penalty at pre start showed changing side was to slow.
@Jasperdog3329
@Jasperdog3329 Ай бұрын
Settle down and go take your meds.
@EnglishLawyer
@EnglishLawyer Ай бұрын
I do enjoy watching Mozzy. I think he has a good tactical and analytical brain but if what you say is true then he is off target and quite clearly wrong. There is nothing wrong with the Kiwi sail trimming and obviously nothing wrong with their foils.
@EnglishLawyer
@EnglishLawyer Ай бұрын
@@Jasperdog3329 I think you should let @silvius.2 express his opinion. English obviously isn't his first language but he stated his case and he was not rude or derogatory so I don't think your comment was justified. The fact is, Ainslie screwed up and got a penalty.
@sharp2684
@sharp2684 Ай бұрын
@@Jasperdog3329 sorry to spoil the party bro but @Silvius.2 is absolutely right! ETNZ was ''SAILING DOZENS METERS STRAIGHT'' and Ineos had plenty of time to avoid the collision, they were way too slow to react. Your insult was uncalled for.
@peterebel7899
@peterebel7899 Ай бұрын
Never cross your sword with a Sir!
@fitelilemana8008
@fitelilemana8008 Ай бұрын
Empires looking one way only kiwi should clear their boat from coming closed it's a waisting of time
@taismyth5791
@taismyth5791 Ай бұрын
Disgusting to Have to see this Add over and over again and again! Adds gone Wild! tvideler!
@rogerprout5574
@rogerprout5574 Ай бұрын
Bens thinking what can I do? Crash? I would not put it past him. But he has got to be able to blame the umpires. He was clearly the give way boat. and looking at his or should I say Dylans turn down? it was a deliberate menace.Bens thinking, "how are we going to beat these guys? Crash? But subtly.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 Ай бұрын
It wasn’t that. It’s that they were too slow or left it too late to react. It was a simple port-starboard and ETNZ had to alter course. It was always going to go against INEOS. This stuff happens all the time in match racing. There was nothing surprising or unexpected about it.
@johnh9031
@johnh9031 Ай бұрын
Was that Dylan shouting ‘Jesus christ’ as the horns nearly locked ? Were the kiwis scaring the new boy?
@colinhare4722
@colinhare4722 Ай бұрын
You NZ guys sound really angry with life despite being 3 0 up and getting all the umpiring 50:50 decisions. You're going to win at a stroll anyway so relax.. and cheer up.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 Ай бұрын
@@colinhare4722 I’m not a Kiwi. I was hoping for a British win to at least make the series more interesting. Not everyone here is a dick.
@EnglishLawyer
@EnglishLawyer Ай бұрын
@@colinhare4722 Colin I don't think the "NZ guys" "sound really angry with life". That sort of comment is without justification and unwarranted. I just think their knowledge is more extensive than the people who make uneducated comments about the Rules and match racing and are just expressing their knowledge and opinion, To say someone is angry with life is just nuts and should be treated as such.
@Trajan2401
@Trajan2401 Ай бұрын
Maybe the biggest rout in AC history?
@RicoSuave007-z5i
@RicoSuave007-z5i Ай бұрын
There should have been a penalty on each boat canceling out. Being on starboard tack doesn't allow a boat to alter coarse directly in front of another, becoming dangerously close to a collision. The Kiwis altered course directly in front of GBR - not at all what I would call giving room to keep clear. Simply because there wasn't an actual collision doesn't absolve them completely.
@peterebel7899
@peterebel7899 Ай бұрын
According to international maritime collision avoiding rules: - when it comes close the right of way boat has to turn in parallel ti the give way boat. This is exactly what the Kiwis did.
@rikiwikeepa4684
@rikiwikeepa4684 Ай бұрын
Keeping it close 700 metres behind 57 seconds behind is this guy blind
@atxsailor452
@atxsailor452 Ай бұрын
Well this won't be an Americas Cup worth watching! 🤑TNZ🤑
@NobodyOfNote-qv5wh
@NobodyOfNote-qv5wh Ай бұрын
Most Kiwis that I know here are not that interested in this AC after TNZ moved the regatta away from NZ. Farcical!
@seekandUshallfind
@seekandUshallfind Ай бұрын
Ainslie needs to follow Spithill and retire
@lencroft7305
@lencroft7305 Ай бұрын
boring... show race not talking heads
@markpearce2510
@markpearce2510 Ай бұрын
So boring They look like giant peddle cars Jib and main No spinnakers
@KiwiPlacesx6
@KiwiPlacesx6 Ай бұрын
simple don't watch. many are enthralled by the technology, the boats the crew the support etc just turn it off
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