Day 3 of testimony in Karen Read murder trial

[@adriannerouleau533]

The loud sighs by the judge… she’s definitely biased. 🤯 B*^%*

[@bbwaddict_shae]

BIG time. Shes frustrating 😤

[@ecalose6785]

Yep!

[@cherylschien4274]

She can spot a murderer when she sees one

[@heartpaws519]

Paramedic was very confident and specific while being questioned by prosecutor. As soon as the he realized the video caught him in a lie, he developed instant amnesia.

[@govindagovindaji4662]

That's only because the proficient 'defense' lawyer was trying to make him a detective and he unfortunately bought it. If the paramedic had realized it, he would have handled it better. He wasn't lying. I don't think any of them are. I think it is just the way a good defense attorney puts the questions to them. It gets confusing as they go in and around things and try to come at different angles, back and forth and back again, to cause that confusion. It's a good what I call 'trickskill', haha. Those vids were horrible too and should not have been used. I did not see closed ambulance door, for just one example.

[@JennyLouLou]

I believe Proctor and Bukenik fudged the statements of the first responders in their reports.

[@fr11288]

If the prosecution is trying to make her look like she did it in person they have no evidence of that and by the looks of the testimony so far it looks like she definitely wouldn’t do that on purpose. I don’t think she’s a murderer.

[@lisapsoinos86]

I agree, she's not a killer. I believe something happened to John with others in that house & someone is accountable.

[@phil1517]

She's guilty. Her broken tail light is near the body and cocktail glass from the glass JOK was holding was found in the tail light. There's no other explanation for that other than Karen Read backed into him.

[@mantra4612]

​@@phil1517didn't she get into an accident later in the night and that's how the tail light broke

[@phil1517]

@mantra4612 ------ that's not what she told the cops. And she won't take the witness stand to confirm that because she knows it's a lie and she broke her tail light when she backed into John O'Keefe and killed him.

[@allkindsamusicchick]

@@mantra4612 Please!

[@christinabutler7142]

The judge huffing and puffing the entire time is extremely unprofessional! That could certainly bias a jury and grounds for a mistrial. She needs a complaint made for reprimand. Unacceptable

[@Amanda3280h]

Agree!!

[@ecalose6785]

@@Amanda3280h if shes not acquitted, shell win on appeal. One if the worst trials Ive ever seen besides the recent Trump bullchit!

[@cheapyweepy5651]

Probably the camera person

[@9Greyskies]

Such a difference watching a young man tell the truth and another skate around it and even possibly flat out lie at times.

[@MassBorn]

Poor kid caught up in the lies and bs of his coworkers

[@ecalose6785]

Not possibly.

[@Kimbo-y3s]

The judge is biased!!! She told defense he can only ask a couple questions????

[@MassBorn]

Apparently she's known "as aunt bev" to the owner of the house they are all corrupt in my oppinion

[@vdicredico]

Aunt Bev keeps sighing.... is this a real trial?

[@BamaMom26]

The judge needs a cpap machine

[@sset4975]

They need to fix that squeaky witness chair lol

[@tarawible2151]

The younger man paramedic is way more believable then the older guy

[@michelletaylor4211]

What the heck is wrong with this judge? Sidebar, sidebar, sidebar with no objections? The video is clearly part of evidence!

[@Gle7799]

If the first cop that arrived on the scene took info from parties. The paramedic wouldn't have to. He could have gotten the info from the cop for his report. The cop was lazy and negligent and didnt keep.proper records.

[@wls1020]

She needs to be REMOVED!!!

[@AmyMcLaughlin-xy3pe]

The entire legal department is corrupt? Not sure what that means, but u can’t brush things with such a broad stroke. There are bad police officers, etc. but the majority are good people. I have family members who are police officers. They aren’t all”corrupt”?

[@govindagovindaji4662]

Even sloppy or lazy cops do not murderers make and they definitely do NOT make up an entire police department, ever. Shame on her and everybody in her 'conspiracy camp'; it's been discovered by (with receipts; and I think his name is Kevin) 'Yellow Cottage Tales' You Tube Channel that Karen has had over 100 hrs. of phone conversation with that guy they call 'Turtle Boy' planting him 'stories', etc. Go figure. She seems such a deceitful person, not on the up an up all the time. I think she could be very likeable but since she is insecure and knows it and does not want to be, she tries weird ways to make and keep friends ~ like trying to pay for that girls room in Aruba. Buying the crowd dinner is one thing, but that room offer was a very weird response. I am beginning to wonder if maybe being hit by the car did not cause all the injuries and she possibly physically punched him too. He'd been leaning into drinking more and more it seems, like on New Years Eve and it was one of her (rightful) complaints about him. He may have passed out in her car, too and she'd just had enough of it and socked him a few times during her own alcoholic black out. Maybe he was keeled over into her lap when those kids didn't see him in the car. I've thought of so many angles that it seems neither lawyers are picking up on.

[@Amanda3280h]

Shut up

[@Gle7799]

The cop should have been asking those questions to karen and others.

[@laurahowland5217]

Why would she say she hit him if she didn’t? What was she talking about then?

[@milart12]

Of course!!!! She said it because she did hit him. The Karen Read supporters are ignoramuses.

[@wls1020]

Why is this witness so dead set on not saying if he is or isn't in the ambulance, makes me wonder if he was trying to let him die because dead men can't talk. He doesn't want purgure himself

[@StephSilva-qw1lm]

Maybe because he really dosnt remember?

[@govindagovindaji4662]

Scenes like that are very fluid. Everybody is moving about doing this, that and the other thing. At the time it is going on, you are not thinking that you are going to have to recall every minute of detail and in what order it happened and who was standing where and doing what. We should be thankful because if they did, they would not be focused on the job at hand. And we would not get the best attentive medical care. Try it sometime. Don't think ahead but just pick some event you went to and try and recall every step from the moment you got there and if possible, even compare it to someone else's recollection. Memory is a tricky thing, it really is. Once you 'think' you recollect something a certain way, sometimes that sticks yet other times after a while of not being able to pin it down, you change it in your mind to something else and then that version tends to stick. It's weird. Memories can be dreamlike sometimes.

[@phil1517]

You are distracted by all sorts of irrelevant items but go out of your way to ignore irrefutable evidence of her tail light fragments being found near the body and glass from a drinking glass John O'Keefe was holding was found in Karen Read's tail light assembly. Lol.

[@Gle7799]

The prosecution has the burden but the lawyer is so calm as he knows the truth will come out and he feels confident his evidrnce will be strong as it comes out.

[@TeresaAnnAskew]

Karen Read is innocent 🙏🏻💙🙏🏻

[@kathleendudek2955]

She's guilty!

[@michelletaylor4211]

Lead paramedic, unbelievable! How can he sleep at night? This woman is now fighting for life, and he is lying 🤥

[@ecalose6785]

After the Proctor testimony I dont believe anything the States witnesses say, nothing!

[@kathleendudek2955]

He's telling the truth!

[@milart12]

The Karen Read crowd is full of such contemptible ignoramuses. EVERYONE is lying except for Karen Read. Why would HE lie?

[@michelletaylor4211]

The young EMT is petrified. Bless his heart. He has no clue, apparently even with what he did. I get that you cannot remember everything, but nothing? And why can't this judge just say overruled, rather than asking the witness the question.

[@AlishaMeadows]

It’s crazy how the fire department the EMT are in on the whole thing

[@fr11288]

Poor guy I truly hope they come to the truth of this what actually happened

[@lisapsoinos86]

🙏♥️

[@fr11288]

If they didn’t find the other shoe, was it left in the house did he take his shoes off when he went into the house and then some type of altercation broke out and he had no time to get out to be put on once you real fast I mean it doesn’t make sense

[@barbaralojko4844]

A Real bad car accident occurs yrs.-- back on my property.Man was hit on impact, There WAS 1 boot on this man's foot, other one WAY up my driveway. The back of KR's Car , is an Exact scenario, Impact Sent him probably backwards.Hey she easily could have took a boot, Panicked realizing SHE did Level him.Yet, thinking fast, wanted to throw Off the crimescene.I don't think she would be Up all night,just waiting for his return.Thats a HUGE stretch,he's was a grown man.YET Her conscience, led her to ZOOM back, because SHE Damn well KNEW ,what happened.She just underestimated, b e DIED upon Impact.

[@JennyLouLou]

​@@barbaralojko4844the defense has woven so much doubt throughout this case. No chance she will be convicted.

[@lindaroodt484]

Probably dissapeared alongside the phone the house and that basement floor

[@Peace_and_Love_777.....]

​@@lindaroodt484... don't forget about the dog!

[@barbaralojko4844]

Exactly 💯! That's sinister, that aneaker was NOT on his foot!! Probably bc he was fiirst, " DRAGGED"( dead weight is Heavy)- out of basement..."! BIZARRE IS an understatement!

[@AlishaMeadows]

I hate how the prosecutor object and the judge says I’ll have this one like what does that even mean?

[@Sueboo47]

The plow guy could have hit john okeefe since visibility was poor and most people are not walking at that hour. Was the plow checked

[@JennyLouLou]

Certain investigators had a cover up job to focus on.

[@TheInnerPact]

I wish she would take the stand to explain why she thought she hit him. Many cops, state personnel, judge, family this and that are all corrupt and biased. No doubt BUT where this statement came from? If isn’t her, who did this? A Dog could have attacked him, it is true, but he was found in a very odd location and a dog or other people wouldn’t have carried him without leaving finger prints on his clothing. The family deserves, at least, the truth. 🙏

[@govindagovindaji4662]

Sounds to me like Jenn was trying her best more than once to remind Karen that she was hysterical and therefore saying things against her own interest without coming right out and saying, "Hey stop incriminating yourself." She was trying to protect her and that's the opposite of a conspiracy to frame her. Which is such sheer baloney to me b/c Karen is the one who went around waking everybody up and telling even Jenn & Kerry on and off that she might have hurt him.

[@JennyLouLou]

If Karen was a murderer and hurt him, would she go around incriminating herself like that? No.

[@9Greyskies]

Disgusting.

[@joannt2298]

It truly sounds as though the judge is part of the prosecution team the way she’s interrupting without an objection, constant side bars to stop the momentum. It’s insane

[@good01]

This judge is the worst

[@govindagovindaji4662]

"Distended" = beer belly = if you continue drinking for years and liver begins to be compromised = Ascites where a continuous state of fluid builds up in the sac that encapsulates the abdomen faster than it can be relieved via liver-kidney-vein or circulatory functions.

[@MassBorn]

Is this prosecutor joking? You can clearly hear her screaming hes fn unalive...you cant fight video with audio i mean come on

[@debkb7]

Why would she be screaming that?

[@debkb7]

He was not doa or dead at the scene. He was not pronounced dead until at the hospital.

[@JennyLouLou]

​@@debkb7she was in shock. Obviously.

[@michelletaylor4211]

​@debkb7 he was in cardiac arrest. That's dead. EMTs were doing CPR. You don't do CPR on someone that has a pulse and heartbeat. They were attempting to revive him.

[@fr11288]

How could he have any scratches deep scratches on his right arm? How could that have happened? They should be looking into that. I doubt if it happened on the street and if he’s in the lawn how does Body get onto the lawn?

[@phil1517]

His body was found 8 ft into the lawn from the roadway. That's the width of 2 sidewalks. What exactly are you so confused about?

[@Boscorelli09]

How would he have scratches on his arm yet had the time to put his coat on. If he was hit wearing his coat there would be rips in the coat . Which tells me he was injured in the house and put his coat on to leave

[@fr11288]

He wasn’t wearing a coat the dog attacked him

[@Gle7799]

Can't wait to hear from mcabe.

[@govindagovindaji4662]

1:45:00 on: I would have honestly been able to say I cannot see well enough to see much of anything in any of these videos. I can hardly believe that the judge even allowed them in as evidence.

[@robertpowderly3733]

Why did KR return to the area?

[@lisapsoinos86]

To look for John, he was at that house at a party

[@pattibarnett1142]

She returned where she had hit him because it finally dawned on her that he might have been hurt ...

[@Gle7799]

To make like she had no idea what she did.

[@RationalNon-conformist]

@Gle7799 He went into that house, he was there! She did not hit him!! There’s a reason why they sold their home and redid the cement floor in the basement! What are those marks on his arms??! And the black eyes? Intelligent people can see that something is very wrong here!

[@lisapsoinos86]

@@RationalNon-conformist I agree 💯

[@9Greyskies]

What a shame.

[@sonjaearnest6934]

Never seen a trial where the judge asks for all these side bars! Clearly something is wrong here.

[@TheMJordanGroup]

wow this guy is such a liar....paramedic guy....

[@girlinterrupted9145]

I can imagine your first thought might be that you could have hit someone in that situation - imagine the emotions and confusion when approaching that scene. I don’t know how he hadn’t already succumb to the elements- that’s what I’d be stressing . He would have most likely died of hypothermia if he was out there that long , especially when you consider the fact that he had very little clothing on. Also, you would have to prove how the injuries got where they were - what part of the car hit him etc., very odd placement of injuries for a hit and run. I suppose he could have been getting out and in a fit of rage, she took off- he could have grabbed the inside of the door or door frame and it could have twisted him around, this could have bruised his hands as well as injured his arm and his head and face could have caught the underneath and then the door as he was breaking free from his grip then dumped on his back… His injuries would depend on whether she was backing up or pulling forward but they would still be similar . However, if she tore out of there quickly, it seems there would be fairly deep imprints in the snow and possibly the ground.

[@deneenstrickler6032]

Can’t stand this judge, absolutely horrible and definitely on the commonwealth side . The defense has valid points and she constantly said sustained!

[@julinotmylastname1355]

UGH I'm watching weeks late so I'll prob have to ask on a more recent day, but does anyone know what that lady is doing with what looks like a CB radio mic? Is she dictating? Never seen that before!

[@ToddHuffRev]

is it normal for there to be so many sidebars during a trail / testimony?

[@Sueboo47]

Does the police officer have to be present in the courtroom to utilize his dash cam video as evidence

[@fr11288]

Sometimes, if you have one she won that means you got hit real hard for that you to come off

[@fr11288]

Did karen read scratch him while they were at the bar before they left did he have scratches from her before she actually dropped him off because how else would they get on his skin on his arm?

[@Larrydavey]

The Alberts now disappeared dog bit him.

[@Gle7799]

No

[@Gle7799]

This witness sats the arm wounds show signs if being older perhaps made earlier in the evening. Interesting. I hope more gets revealed about this. . He could have been injured on his arm at least earlier in evening. All other wounds had fresher blood.

[@MassBorn]

The owner of the house had a dog a German Sheppard

[@debkb7]

Dogs generally go for legs not just scratch arms. Think about it.

[@Gle7799]

There wee plentiful amounts of paramedics on the scene. Im sure there are sometines just two.

[@AmyMcLaughlin-xy3pe]

Karen Read is guilty as sin. Shame on her for not taking responsibility.

[@barbaralojko4844]

10000%--- Her demeanor speaks for itself, since 1st day. Her personality is similar as: Casey Anthony, Scott Petersons a great example to compare her to.Smug, Self focused, Not 1 Single Tear, has she shed, Even the fire Luietenant commented, on scene...She's Very RIGID .Just knowing my husband, boyfriend was fatally injured, she had Strange comments.Indicative of a panic situation- while she was at scene, to makeup HER tailored Story to distance the truth....

[@MassBorn]

You're joking right? Lol the entire legal department is corrupt in my oppinion

[@RationalNon-conformist]

@barbaralojko4844Wow, you are truly unwell. Woah, you love drama and lies, go read a book.

[@RationalNon-conformist]

The shame is on you.. go get some help if you think the prosecutions case adds up!

[@lisaphillips8036]

Worst judge ever. So rude and needs to stop all the sighing

[@Rmwmtjay1878]

They are ripping everybody apart her defense team is on it

[@michelletaylor4211]

Please don't tell me his clothing is missing?

[@deneenstrickler6032]

And commonwealth WEAK

[@lisakelley4583]

Karen just needs to come clean instead of blaming everyone else

[@barbaralojko4844]

Exactly 💯!!!

[@Larrydavey]

Get your heads examined.

[@Gle7799]

I agree

[@Gle7799]

Bingo

[@RationalNon-conformist]

Oh boy, you have no idea what you’re talking about! The prosecution’s timeline doesn’t make any sense!! Watch the whole trial and then tell me she is guilty!

[@fr11288]

Something attacked him you don’t get scratches through layers of clothing

[@rickg2516]

Did he receive the scratches from the undercarriage of the car?

[@veronicaglover744]

​@rickg2516 if he went under the car, how did he end up in a yard where there wasn't tire tracks? Surely when they decided to blow the snow away from the area, they would have seen snow packed tire tracks. I can't make a scenario of a passenger getting dropped off and somehow being hit on the right side and head. How are his legs not affected by being hit by a vehicle? He has head injuries and an injury to the right arm. So what, he was crouched down and standing facing the street for her to hit him? She dropped him off a ways up the street before the house and flag pole or backs up to get momentum, he walks along the road and then she hit him? It doesn't make sense to try playing the scenario of a passenger being dropped off at a house party and hit with so much force to cause what happened to mainly the right side of his head and face. Maybe someone else can make it make sense.

[@phil1517]

​@@veronicaglover744- the ground was frozen and very hard. Karen Read's car would not have left tire tracks.

[@fr11288]

With those human scratches on his arm with those an animal scratches on his arm

[@MassBorn]

Dog scratches and the owner of the house "rehomed" the dog before anyone could test it

[@debkb7]

Rehomed or not the police could have got a warrant to have that done.

[@fr11288]

How come they’re not asking why was the body was found on the lawn because cars don’t drive on the lawn, so how could she hit him cars drive on the street not on the lawn? How did he end up on the lawn?

[@dinaanderson1529]

Because when a body is hit by a car the body is thrown many feet away

[@RationalNon-conformist]

@dinaanderson1529 The way they say she hit him, it makes it impossible for him to have landed on the lawn like that!

[@debkb7]

No not true it was possible for him to end up in the lawn.

[@Gle7799]

Interesting. Arm wounds older than others.

[@Gle7799]

The arm had dried bloid indicating olded wound than the others with fresher blood.

[@Gle7799]

Perhaps we had donestic violence issue before the incident

[@lindaogara5053]

It's funny camera man showed the whole read family, and every single one of them had the same fish lip face,

[@barbaralojko4844]

Tamarind monkey comes to mind

[@Gle7799]

Yes and the okeefes are sitting right near karen.

[@mariamonte5354]

The reads all have BOTOX LIPS

[@phil1517]

What's up with Karen Read's eternal JOKER smirk?

[@Gle7799]

Oxygenation priority

[@9Greyskies]

Wtf?

[@fr11288]

If his stomach was bloated, that usually happens when someone dies and Stomach close up

[@jfk32975]

Defense team is a joke

[@jfk32975]

What is the point of this cross. What a waste

[@M.K.386]

Isn't this the knee on the neck state?

[@jeremyschick3450]

Lead paramedic…”she said I hit him”, but never documents that or tells anyone for 2 years cause he wasn’t asked? Oh but definitely told the doctor/ nurses verbally but not specifically…that was ONE of the possibilities. Among which others… in your report? The video speaks for itself…he claims to have a coherent convo with Karen while he’s doing chest compressions. Didn’t see that or hear it in the 30sec video. Once paramedics show up Karen gets 10 ft out of the way, as directed. Why do the responding officers not hear or document that? Prosecutors case is kinda simple..Karen hit him, admits it, evidence is there. Soooo… why have 50 of the 55 witnesses been constantly perjuring themselves, not to mention deleting, destroying evidence. Alan Jackson could easily refute the charges…instead he’s going full Perry mason Matlock on these mofos cause his San Diego supersenses smell the stench of canton.

[@Rmwmtjay1878]

this judge has a real problem with literally time should always calling people off to mostly the defense The scratches on the car look like Sunday music on here nice to make them

[@MassBorn]

You can hear her sigh like this is a waste of her precious time she seems as corrupt as the prosecutor in my oppinion

[@ogcatlady]

​@laurieplantamuro2968 that's what I was thinking! She seems so bored and aggravated.