DCS: 3v3 F-15 Eagle v Su-27 Flanker Squadron Tactics PvP

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So This video is a longer format then we are usually doing on this channel, I decided to make it so we could Jam pack it with information so in the first part of the video we do the in game of the flight and footage and then we do the group tacview you guys enjoyed from last time and then after that we go over the content with moltar who hosts the SATAL competitions and is a part of the 51 squadron in DCS and he talks us thru some awesome squadron tactics successful things we did and things we can improve on. So I really feel like this video is jam packed with awesome stuff for anyone who really wants to learn this stuff and is just a casual player in DCS/Beginner. I hope you guys enjoy the video and as always thank you for watching and your support on the channel. You guys are the best.

[@caalcb7]

This should be in eSports!

[@nazurimen4578]

Yeah

[@ryanrachmansyah]

High cost, and high equiptment

[@vielplaysdagames2298]

I think it is or at least they have tournaments that are commentated

[@justinwolf148]

This is more complex and awesome than any esports game.

[@benpurcell4935]

SATAL is DCS’s esports competitive league.

[@weasle2904]

"Tax Dollars At Work" lmao

[@alexhebert2948]

Get Moltar to lead a 3 Vs 3 where you don't know what the enemy are flying. He is Tactically and strategically superior. Would like to see if he could orchestrate in a live theatre. Also in that scenario you need to be the lead on the opposing team, since you have the second best strategic and tactical abilities and we know your combat skills are high. I.e. in order to have balance you need to NOT be on the same team as Moltar.

[@Nico-kd8jl]

5:50 I accidentally said out loud "Oh thats sexy, oh that's hot" and my flatmate comes in like "yeah you want me to close the door?"

[@Triggatra4258]

😂

[@juliocanche7822]

Relatable

[@zombrz]

Jesus loves you ❤

[@zombrz]

@@juliocanche7822 Jesus loves you

[@zombrz]

@@Triggatra4258 Jesus loves you

[@MrEKG123]

Thank you, as a father with two children I have very few opportunities to really relax. Drinking a bloody mary on the couch while watching this fit the bill, and the rumbling jets soothed my 'tism. Please make more like this, very well edited!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks so much man, i'm really happy you enjoyed it. I appreciate the kind feedback man.

[@theaceofspades485]

You and me both brother. Hang on and get these babies to teenagers already. Sure that comes with it's own hard times,but bye bye to the diapers and constant worry what they are doing,and long long nights 😂

[@varmint87]

24:10 poor guy ejected into the ground!!! OUCHIE!

[@marcoschmid4504]

I think that was just the seat

[@marcoschmid4504]

Sorry nevermind xD

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

varmint87 it's a hard knock life

[@maddoxhill9773]

Dude I fliched when that happened!!! LOL

[@user-jg7qw6bn1t]

Just saw this comment, had the same reaction I guess. Russians are known for surviving low altitude ejections. (Ukraine I think had that horrible air show crash where the jet hit the ground and flew through and drug a fence through a crowd of people) kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4PHimN7dtCIl7s Pilot survived though, but he was still seated where the cockpit was pointed towards the sky.. Then there’s another air show crash where the ejection seat from a Russian air craft, ejected in what I’ll call a negative position or upside down almost, but the seat was able to eject out and then back up in a successful attempt to get the pilot out and back up so the chute could deploy. I believe that the pilot survived that as well.

[@george-hi1fp]

The pair of su27 did one of the Best take offs i ve ever seen

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

george Χαριτος I agree that was beautiful

[@champagnegascogne9755]

0:09 All aircraft, form up on Trigger, nice and tight!

[@michelestefanini5466]

You play ac7?

[@meta.5studios]

A man of great taste.

[@MEDICIN3M4N]

"Why?! What good is that?!"

[@Aphexion]

Looks like the Strider Squadron introduction xd

[@ethanpagan3365]

Huzzah! A man of quality

[@ahmednaser6924]

one of the best fight i have ever seen in dcs the order the formation the tactics . beautiful man and amazing tackview

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Ahmed Naser thanks man glad you enjoyed it

[@aimready]

This is definitely what I like to see. One of my favorite so far.

[@JerDog1984]

When those missiles hit the sound effects are just fantastic, and scary!

[@Wisewolf_of_Avalon]

lol the russians had enough of "Tax Dollars at Work" and took off without them.

[@Theagoh]

You are levelling up things here. In the future we are gonna have 16v16 and then 64v64 lol

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

The Ago hahaha not sure my computer could handle it. Would be awesome tho

[@peterweller8583]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Give it a couple of iterations GS

[@charliewood1680]

That name tax dollars at work 😂😂

[@corwinparker8548]

That was amazingly fun! I feel like I'm a better pilot now for watching this. Still green as can be, but every good piece of advice lets you get closer. Thanks so much!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Glad you found it useful brother

[@abdulmismail]

24:08 Oh man. He ejected right into the snow. Gruesome death, that one!

[@PolarBearSeal]

Congratulations MasterJay! Here's to a wonderful life!

[@LRRPFco52]

This type of scenario is a great way to illustrate how important managing the BVR and Edge of Visual Range fights are, avoiding WVR as much as possible even when limited to 1990s-era fighters and missiles. When you factor modern AESAs, midcourse-guided BVR missiles that have cooperative guidance, higher bandwidth data links, and everyone with HMS-cued HOBS missiles, the stand-off ranges and threat bubbles increase even more. Now imagine having VLO platforms in high altitude perch looking down with fused sensors data, allowing the F-15Cs to maintain EMCON in this scenario, and acting as AEWAC/ EW, with the ability to do terminal guidance for weapons.

[@Schmidty1]

Jesus christ I just read gibberish haha. You need to know all of the acronyms in the world to understand what you wrote xD.

[@LRRPFco52]

@@Schmidty1 BVR= Beyond Visual Range WVR= Within Visual Range AESA= Active Electronically Scanned Array (RADAR) HMS= Helmet Mounted Sight HOBS= High Off-Boresight System Missile VLO= Very Low Observable (Stealth) EMCON= Emissions Control AEWAC= Airborne Early Warning And Control EW= Electronic Warfare That was really nothing. In any profession, you will learn a separate language with all kinds of jargon and acronyms to for brevity communication.

[@recon17]

Thank you GS for this video. I was able to learn a lot of stuff. I hope that more videos like this will come in the future. Also, congratulations to masterJ and his wife.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Anish lal my pleasure thanks for watching, plenty more like this to come in the future

[@treysimmons2589]

Yooo!! I died at the whole “I’m coming on him” thing! 🤣🤣🤣

[@hemantvaidya4443]

That's why there is so much snow

[@mikem.s.1183]

Superb, @Growling Sidewinder. This longer format (quasi- short story) is great. Looking forward for more.

[@solngv8]

I'd call that a Sunde split on the last splash.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Great name for it

[@rollenford08]

You have great vid and congratulations to master Jay.

[@linkkicksu]

The MiG-29, Su-27 and all their derivatives and variants have such cool and intimidating looks, especially when fully armed.

[@maddoxhill9773]

heck yea bro another video!!!, and another heck yea for MasterJay & his Wife!!!!

[@masterjayj54]

Thanks man!

[@maddoxhill9773]

Wow Didn't expect for this many likes nor Growling Sidewinder to love my comment and Master Jay J to Respond too... Best day ever!!! ( thanks guys )

[@ThisguyisDonJohnson]

This is awesome!!! The PvP fights are so intense and interesting. Please make more of these videos and keep up the good work.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Lee Schmager glad you enjoyed and thank u plenty more like this to come

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Moltars Channel: kzbin.info/door/hfyq4FFuYuUcgPRTxBEZXA

[@zwanso]

Congrats to Master jay! Im very curious as to why you are still using th AIM-9L rather than the AIM-9X ? Do please Tell. I've seen the AIM-9X in person. The pilots even say it has suburb characteristics. Care to explain?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

zwanso the 9x is not available in DCS for the f15 only the f18 can carry it

[@zwanso]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Are you kidding me?? I'm disappointed to hear that. Thanks for the response!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

@@zwanso ya its a shame, no problem man

[@mojisoleymani3067]

can i have request a battle plz. between miraje tapy 5 with f14.🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@rokenwolf]

This was an awesome video and I definitely appreciate the amount of work that must have gone into it, from mission set up to video editing and voice over. Excellent work!!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Roken thanks man ya this took a hell of a long time to set up always nice when someone realizes the effort that goes into this stuff. Glad you enjoyed.

[@jsing9818]

An hour long video.....bro this is a real treat! Thank you!!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

J Sing my pleasure man I'm glad you enjoyed it

[@Tigerbythetoe]

Super interesting to watch, great fight on both sides. I enjoyed seeing the tactics adapt to the situation it really showed how each side tried to make the most of their respective strengths. Cool!

[@jonathaniszorro]

Sunde's guns at 29:30 ripping that wing off like a f***ing bandsaw. Getting a guns kill is always worth bragging about, doing it while still packing two sidewinders... badass.

[@reduk1999]

You’ve reached another level my friend, the amount of effort your putting into these now are making for must see viewing well done to all....and thanks to all involved.... this has got very slick in a great way.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks man I appreciate it very much, its always nice when someone notices the effort that goes into these. Much appreciated brother.

[@kalebgarringer2618]

Awsome video man. I really liked that last tac view with moltar discussing the tactics and everything.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Kaleb Garringer glad you enjoyed it man hoping to learn lots from moltar in the future

[@madingahmar4420]

Wooohooo masterjay!!! Congratulations to ur family 🎉🍾🎊🎈

[@Tomasm21]

Great adventure. High quality video with whole tactic analysis. And review from an expert. And the game itself is a masterpiece. Many aspects are close to IRL.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Tomasm21 thanks buddy glad you enjoyed it

[@FD1CE]

It was like a whole course. Greatly informative and educational. Thank you and all your participating guys.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

glad you found it helpful man thanks for watching

[@aria767]

Get Moltar to lead a 3 Vs 3 where you don't know what the enemy are flying. He is Tactically and strategically superior. Would like to see if he could orchestrate in a live theatre. Also in that scenario you need to be the lead on the opposing team, since you have the second best strategic and tactical abilities and we know your combat skills are high. I.e. in order to have balance you need to NOT be on the same team as Moltar.

[@jenskalden]

Watch satal, there you can see moltar facing off against even enemies

[@flyinbrianvids]

The mighty eagles are victorious, nice flying gentlemen.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks buddy

[@David-nu6kw]

The cinematic footage is incredible! So good!

[@Boslandschap1]

Great video, love the informed explanation of what is (actually) happening and what I should be looking at.

[@charlesfosterkane3902]

Excelent video!! Great Final Analisys!

[@rogiervandenbroek610]

Thanks for the video, you put a lot of effort into it. It shows and is appreciated. I would like to add though that Sundre was pulling over 12g in his turn with the gun kill. Hell of a stomach cruncher!

[@bradcarpenter1881]

Congrats MasterJay J! And another great vid Sidewinder!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thanks brother much appreciated.

[@bradcarpenter1881]

Growling Sidewinder and no need to apologize for providing us with over an hour of content, dude we should be thanking you for it 😂! Thanks brotha!

[@214JRoss]

GS once another awesome video brother! Finally got started in DCS yesterday and holy shit it’s intense and bad ass! It’ll be literally a hundreds of hours before I’m anywhere near what you guys are doing lol. Keep putting up these videos so us newbs can learn from the best! Masterjay, congratulations on the birth of your baby girl!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks brother, ya man its an intense sim, just remember to take ur time and dont burn yourself out, it can be a lot of fun once you get the hang of it.

[@jpeete]

Congratulations to MasterJay! Another great video. 3 vs 3 p2p....awesome.

[@jaysea1590]

After watching this for the first time years after release, I think revisiting this format could be really cool to see in 2023. Excellent video

[@avidgamer5676]

Dude every video recently has been getting longer and longer. I LOVE IT! will have to watch this in two parts.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

AvidGamer thanks buddy and ya I think in the future ill try and limit the videos to like 35mins max but this one just had so much info I wanted to get out to u guys. I didn't want to break it up and stuff. I figured people knew what a pause button was and could take a break as they desired.

[@avidgamer5676]

It's all good here.

[@timsullivan4566]

Just came back to watch this one for the 3rd time and only now did I manage to appreciate the value of Moltar's commentsm so VERY glad you took that unusual step of a 2nd Tacview- no shortage of lessons here! Only regret is that no significant attention paid to Nylop's situation. Not only don't know WHY he had so much difficulty tracking the SU's, but why was there no effective response to his reported confusion? I'm sure IF Moltar had heard the audio, he'd have lots to say about a squadron's response in such a dangerous scenario.

[@negawan]

Awesome and insightful video. Great job to all those involved!

[@olivertripp5412]

Stumbled in here on your channel for no reason, didn't really know why one of your videos got recommended but I've been binge-watching your stuff for the last 9 hrs and have to head of for work now. I've watched 3-4 of your sessions with the french rafale-guy, your Huey vs. Hind thing (funny af, still feel the pain from pretty much constant laughing...) and now I've seen this one as a last one (for the moment!). Love the fighting and the in depth analysis afterwards. Really good work on your side, chapeau! Maybe I will get into this game myself. Never wanted to play stuff like that because I've always said I don't play what I've used to do for work but either my mentality changed a bit or it's enough time passed by now. So until next time!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks for the comment and for checking out the channel, I really appreciate the kind comments.

[@reduk1999]

And awesome news for Master J best wishes

[@merlingt1]

This is by far my favorite video you've made.

[@billywilliam7747]

Awesome. The clip is just like a movie. Love it. You guys play the game with great skill. Great Thanks

[@Jolly-Rogers]

Thanks for the nice video. And congratulations, MasterJay. I pay tribute to your wonderful strategy and implementation.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

my pleasure glad you enjoyed

[@jeffreyraia5804]

Great job editing the video. I was glued to it till the end.

[@Mitissa515]

Love these long vids Growler, The take-offs may be boring to some people but I think they add to the tension so please keep doing these! Also doing anything more than 1v1's is entertaining because it's a whole different ball-game than one on one engagements. Cheers to all 6 of you!

[@Dv087]

Thanks to all of you. That was so entertaining. What a fight. And a gun kill to wrap it up. Awesome!

[@charles_wipman]

Good flight, i didn't knew what to spect other than good team tactics and a nice air combat; and seems that that's what i'd get.

[@PhillipChalabi]

I havent watched all your videos, but this one was the best I have seen thus far. The breakdown and criticism was excellent...

[@LRRPFco52]

Love the 3v3. One thing I'll say about the R-27 variants is that after yechnical exploitation of scores of them gained from the East Germans on the MiG-29s, the pK was close to zero, a really POS missile in the history of AAMs. The R-73, on the contrary, was scary effective and pushed a lot of thinking in NATO on the ASRAAM. The US Navy had pioneered AIM-9G & VTAS/SEAM in the late 1960s with HMS in the F-4B/J, but it didn't catch on with the rest of the US air component forces, although the concept was further developed in the AFTI F-16 starting in 1978.

[@mr.xasiklas6584]

Just want to say that after 2 years of playing DCS, I finally did my first multiplayer flyout on your Caucasus server. I was always a multiplayer guy but kinda hesitant about DCS. Had the feeling that I would always die without even knowing it. Ended up getting three fucking kills. Two Hornets and an Eagle iirc. Great fun. Will surely fly on there more.

[@alexeyaviator8600]

Tactics and coordination this is what matters a lot! Enjoyed watching the fight

[@charliewood1680]

That's what I love about you kid your parents raised you right that was good of you to give a shout out to masterjay like that

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks man, ya well masterjay is a great guy happy to give him some spot light where i can

[@69fabin]

In my humble opinion these are the videos that the canal should focus... Just great!

[@masonmurray1011]

6:39 my ears are now bleeding, thank you very much

[@omkarm.k2156]

Wow 1hr+ !! Much appreciated brother

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

my pleasure man I hope its useful

[@omkarm.k2156]

@@GrowlingSidewinder I don't have the game, but I love the way the video presents a situation of a dogfight and tactics to survive, pure entertainment!!!

[@jh52663]

How much time do you put into this game!? Blows my mind how easy you make things look!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

oh man it look a long time, lot of practice, it gets easier tho over time once you pick up the main concepts.

[@EhsanVahidinia]

I've just watch this video like a movie. absolutely fabulous. Hollywood should learn.

[@knndyskful]

“Let’s just fly to their base, just fly right at them” LEEEERROY JENKINS!

[@ob1983]

Hey there, just found your channel, it is fantastic, world class presenting / production too. Just going to work through them all. Regards 🛩

[@guilhom5602]

Excellente vidéo!! vraiment génial de suivre ces engagements ; je comprends mieux les entrainements des Rafales de la marine au dessus de la Bretagne

[@theaceofspades485]

Good job guys. Entertaining mission , and plenty of come all over them.

[@tyapka]

Haven’t watched but Christmas has come early!

[@GentiluomoStraniero]

GS, very classy of you to mention someone's special day. Great video!

[@trykozmaksym]

This was good - more subscribers to this gentleman.

[@polarbear6979]

Loving the subliminal messages @57:30

[@Nick-ms9yw]

Awesome stuff man, been watching heaps of your content lately I even bought the f-18 and f-15 on dcs

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks man, congratulations on joining the community, always nice to hear new people joining.

[@Nick-ms9yw]

@@GrowlingSidewinder yeah thanks man I’m still learning the f-18 atm it’s a lot to take in

[@SyhaDan]

Feels like im in the cockpit...This will quench my thirst until top gun 2 comes out... Thank you

[@BOYASTIGDCS]

The best PVP ever I have watch in DCS or any other PVP out there.

[@UBSORRY]

Another amazing video!!! Got a new 65 inch and watching yours video now on it!!!!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks man grateful to have supporters like you, hope ur enjoying that 65incher

[@sulake13]

Very inspiring video. I couldn't tell is was over one hour long. Very enjoyable and helps a lot. I am a beginner. I could probably never be able to do anything like this. Just bought my first jet yesterday(mig29)

[@JZ1917]

Deadpool giving the real Squadron Tactics Training.

[@riteousrighthand6144]

Spent 6 years of my life swapping parts in a Strike Eagle. one of the best jobs I ever had.

[@bryancleveland339]

Amazing video, LOVE the Eagles

[@ryantaylor6730]

You should do a video on military aviation terms and stuff like that (for beginners like me)

[@joshstanton267]

He did a video on that 😛

[@michaelalkio8914]

You guys are the best and I'm glad that your up there god bless

[@drazensenjug6511]

Just one thing, more of an observation: the lead on takeoff sets throttle to 97% to allow others to controll the distance

[@lordfraybin]

That was good! Very entertaining.

[@MrNismopro]

Awesome video, great job 👍🏼

[@TheLoneHaranger]

Love these fights. Unable to qualify for flight training (eyes) I can live vicariously It's been said but I repeat, durn fine editing. Watching the Eagle flight depart I mumbled quietly, "We about to go a-huntin' bear . . "

[@emanuellandeholm5657]

For some reason my cat really likes your videos. :)

[@bluearmy6847]

39:21 you point out the mistakes, but if he was to commit tours the missiles while turning 6G force he could of went cold, but the Su-27 would have spotted him and gun him down. 40:20 That is good performance (Viking 1-1) in the Flanker, me personally would never expose my rear end to the enemy, but he was low to the deck and manage to get the missile off by flaring, which is perfect, but still give up your tail for the enemy which is closing in. Love the video and learning from your interception PvP match keep it up GS.

[@abdulrafay1509]

Amazing video GS, your strat was amazing

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks for watching buddy

[@whitenoise509]

Can't wait to be good enough to do this!

[@johnnynoland4482]

Solid video. Do you have a video or discussion about your hardware gear/setup for DCS? Curious to know how people are setting up their computers/stations for ease and simplicity for playing. Thanks!

[@MrMJpilot]

Great video! Nice shot by Sunde.

[@aryakelkar9580]

now i accept that i play games like this like a mad maniac up in the air and kill everything but not in a vaery prfessional way but this vid and the last kill,by sunde,man that was clean.

[@josephunderwood1875]

Love your videos. I'm learning so much. My only flight experience is an introductory lesson on a Cessna 152! I play Wing Over Europe sometimes but only with moderate realism. I'm out of my element with legitimate dog fighting tactics. I only have a joystick with a throttle on it. I'd love to get the equipment to do this kind of stuff. It's really incredible how great this looks. Is it possible to play with VR? Also, is there a certian tactical advantage to being over the water instead of land?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks a lot man, ya you can use VR if you like, also, the radar worked better over water cuz of less terrain interference, just a better situational awareness picture.

[@Cybetrexs]

Would love to see another W/ pro analysis, was awesome

[@midnightrider1100]

These types of fights are much more enjoyable than the dog fights. This is what these planes were designed for.

[@formallyknownasj.a.2074]

What up brotha, Great video today, I really enjoyed the 3 v 3 dogfight.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

J. A. Thanks for watching buddy. U the man