Supremely Outmatched | F-22 Raptor Vs Su-27 | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@krapransvr5198]

can you do an out matched vid with the jas gripen against Viggen or mig 29 ?

[@davidmckenzie1695]

Other matchups Su-57 vs Ukrainian Mig-29 , Su-35S vs Ukrainian Mig-29, Those are real life scenarios. For hypothetical F-35A/B/C vs F-14AM from Iran and J-20 vs F-15C.

[@numberyellow]

NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs SU-57, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs NGAD, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx

[@firebald2915]

Tossing spaghetti missiles at an f22... None stuck to the Teflon Raptor. I love this bird.

[@m41a1z]

Always Love your video❤ , you play dcs with vr?

[@SPDFRK]

"Enemy pine tree 12 o'clock!" "Good kill. Good kill."

[@Shadow27Titan]

Anyone else have flashbacks to the f22 sneaking up on the su27 from behind?

[@SuperSabre157]

Toxic let us down....

[@RosalindMullins-i7l]

Yes😂😂😂 I was thinking that the whole video 😂😂😂

[@MartinSparks-ef9gr]

That would be a no .

[@chrisfitzmaurice7484]

Yep. That was hilarious.

[@ireaddekker]

One of my favorite moments! 😂

[@kenc9236]

"A guy camping listening to his radio." Kabam lol

[@404-u5f]

His stake was definitely well done 😆

[@queenstownswords]

Are you sure there was not an outhouse in those woods?

[@potatoskunk5981]

Although, simply listening to the radio would not result in a transmission that could be homed in on, since that's a passive receiver. Maybe it was a Starlink antenna for the outhouse so you could watch youtube while taking care of business.

[@Danlovestrivium]

Not really how a radio works. An anti-radiation missile can't see a passive antenna.

[@mikemontgomery2654]

That’s what he gets for supplying the enemy with porta-potties.

[@555_Kochi_STi]

The F22 went so cold it started snowing.

[@Ifoughtpiranhas]

Your missile tracked a bat hanging upside down in the tree trying to use its echolocation ability to find bugs for dinner. ☠🦇

[@FukaiRei27]

Poor bat, it didn't only lose its dinner, but also lose family and home.

[@skankhunt9078]

No because the bat uses sound waves not radio

[@Takyodor2]

@@skankhunt9078 radioactive bat xD

[@christianwarrior4367]

@@Takyodor2😂😂😂 Science👍🏼

[@skankhunt9078]

Maybe radiative bat could be tracked

[@wipplewopple1876]

SU-27: "Got an IR Lock on an F-22." YF-23: "Well, golly gee, if only there were some way to avoid that?"

[@christianarrington6492]

From now on I will picture I will picture Ron Howard as the pilot of every YF-23 I see

[@michaelkossin2765]

What is the way to avoid that?

[@otterconnor942]

Well, Northrup Grumman couldn't win ALL OF THE CONTRACTS. 😂

[@johns1625]

YF-23 should have been called the Manta, or the Manta Ray instead of Black Widow.

[@condor7964]

I'm pretty sure that's only effective from below with the YF-23.

[@Matt6644]

9:48 "Hey guys, welcome to camping with Steve BOOM!"

[@warhawk4494]

Nice hiss

[@kdaltex]

Those youtube references, whatever happened there?

[@sclarin2]

Steve is a treasure

[@yurackjung9321]

no bro why he never deserves that :(

[@ettcha]

Did a reset of my watch history a while ago so I stopped getting recommendations from him a little after his wife passed. Thanks for the reminder, I'll go see what he's up to. Hope he's good.

[@aaronliddell4280]

Says there “probably won’t be a merge” then proceeds to die at the merge! Lol

[@firebald2915]

I back away from the screen when his confidence goes up. Almost a mutual kill... Toxic did well.

[@robertgehrig1631]

Exactly. So close to the merge.

[@Zermattquattro]

@@firebald2915 I find myself checking his six (in the cockpit mirrors) whenever GS tempts fate.

[@silverblueshadow]

@@firebald2915 toxic is pretty good. goes to show all it takes is a decent pilot in the f-22, and it's already almost quite one-sided of a fight

[@clairecelestin8437]

I've only just started the video, but the words "Thank you to Toxic for flying the F-22 in this video" mean that you're about to get smoked

[@silverblueshadow]

yep. if another pilot in the f-22 gs may pull it off, but it's toxic, in a raptor, so i'm actually expecting a raptor win lol

[@Slipknotfanatic89]

I thought the same thing hahaha. F22 plus Toxic plus outmatched was always going to end rough!

[@jekylld8414]

My exact thought when I read it too lmao. "Yeah sorry gs you're good but not that good"

[@Fighter_Daily]

I’m sorry but the “Objective, Survive.” Got me 😂😂😂

[@vipondiu]

I picture a guy in that treeline putting on his new bluetooth headphones. "Activate Bluetooth?" "Yes" "Connecting...." and then he starts to hear the "swoooOOSH" of an incoming 5-meter long stick of death from the sky

[@daveyanderson6166]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@colonel_cookies_]

You survived him until he was so close his stealth technology wasn't effective anymore. Tou did a very good job for a under dog

[@Mobius118]

To be fair, no Raptor pilot worth his salt would allow the fight to get that close

[@off_grid_javelin]

It was a purely technical fight, GS had his radar off and r27 was the ace up his sleeve. As soon as the r27 depleted... so did his chances of keeping the raptor down.

[@Dyjsong]

0:53 unmentioned secret weapon: checking the rear view mirrors*

[@maxlin3442]

Anti-Stealth Optical Sensor

[@soundwaverecords9023]

Ill get ya some and ill teach ya

[@maxlin3442]

@@soundwaverecords9023 Plz do

[@deathskrieg5525]

Rear view mirror is the secret accessory to the MK I eyeball

[@maxlin3442]

@@deathskrieg5525 true

[@cj41079]

"S300 is not doing anything for me, that's pretty cool" 😂😂😂😂

[@vettedriver8104]

Can’t kill what you can’t see! 🇺🇸

[@victorzvyagintsev1325]

@@vettedriver8104 Technically, S-300 shouldn't care what stealth you got. It covers enough radar frequencies to see "stealth".

[@Chiungalla79]

@@victorzvyagintsev1325 Seeing is NOT the same as having a weapon grade lock. The frequencies that can see stealth aircrafts with little trouble are NOT suited for weapon grade locks.

[@victorzvyagintsev1325]

@@Chiungalla79 Serbians didn't know they couldn't get a weapons grade lock on a true stealth(which f22 isn't). In any case, we are talking about how much use an integrated radar network can be to a blind Su-27 pilot that going magnum at a stealth aircraft. All the pilot really needs is the general direction.

[@jancecd8466]

F22 and f35 the only real stealth fighter the other or 4.5 gen like su. 57 . Out dated

[@sebekglab]

7:30 “Fox Magnum” can be appropriate call out.

[@mikewebber4784]

Fagnum maybe 😂😂

[@r2020E]

@@mikewebber4784 bruh 😂

[@jessematthews6861]

As an american who loves american aircraft I found myself torn between rooting for the f22 and rooting for you to win an outmatched round. The times you won an outmatched round in an f16 made it easier

[@Richard-f4b4r]

Careful! The transmission source for your missiles could be some poor guy in an outhouse watching GS on KZbin! We all know how dangerous it is using an outhouse when GS is flying nearby!!😂

[@XiaOmegaX]

I get the feeling these missiles would be useless in a country where lots of people had wifi. 5ghz looks like radar.

[@spinningsquare1325]

​@@XiaOmegaXof course not

[@cesarpazmino3425]

Feel like a Tacview of this match up would have been interesting. You would have gotten to see where those missiles all went. RIP to the innocent guy in the woods

[@Zermattquattro]

Awesome idea. I’d be really stoked if GS did this for us.

[@nikospitr]

nice fight. But Toxic was aware of your tricks :)

[@barbaros99]

IF GS exists, THEN Expect the unexpected.

[@mrlt1151]

When in doubt, defend cold. He would have known that GS wasn’t running his radar, so even if you don’t know about the anti radar missile, there’s the thermal threat. If the passive radar tracking was the only threat, just turn your radar off and run him down when he defends.

[@fubar5884]

9:33 GS just merked some random dude out enjoying the countryside, flying his new RC plane and listening to the radio until something half the size of a telephone pole screamed over and exploded.

[@TheOriginalFaxon]

GS I looked up the protocol for the use of AGM-88 and what targets it will be able to go after easily, and it does indicate that the missile can be fired at a valid airborne emissions target, like an AWACS. The "Magnum" call would be the same whether it's fired at a ground or air target, so you're correct to use it here despite firing entirely at airborne targets. The intent of the callout is to indicate what payload is in the air, and what it's attracted to, so that friendly air assets in the region can fly appropriately. If there was, say, an EA-18 Growler in a static holding pattern not pulling Gs, the AGM-88 might be able to take it out. Likewise, an EA-18G successfully took out a Houthi Mi-24 Electronic Warfare Asset just 2 weeks ago using an AGM-88 while the helicopter was airborne.

[@Danlovestrivium]

Would be cool to see if you could fire one of these R-27P at an AIM-120 after the 120 goes pitbull, using it as a countermessure if you had to.

[@Doodelz02]

What I understood from that is that the correct call should have been: "Magnum, tree!" 😊

[@spinningsquare1325]

​@@Danlovestriviumif you get a lock on the missile a normal ARH works good for that. Modern radars can do that kind of stuff

[@Danlovestrivium]

@@spinningsquare1325 Yes, but hitting an air-air missile with another air to air is something completely different, especially in this situation where the missile he's firing doesn't even have it's own radar nor is it being guided by his own aircraft radar.

[@snakeplissken1754]

9:50 Those evil commando squirrels hiding in trees with their radios to do all kind of nonsense... finally one got punished for good.

[@treyhelms5282]

You know too much.......

[@thomasfarley5070]

Thanks!

[@BladeKi11a]

Still waiting for GS to drop the BF3 F-18 mission “Going Hunting”

[@crownbikes1375]

This needs to happen

[@Bruce_R1]

that arrogant flare-barrel roll when he dodges your dying attempt to trade with him at the very end was *chef's kiss*. I chuckled anyway

[@AA-xs8mv]

That was actually a very good fight with the Su-27 considering it's the old version.

[@BenWilliams-jj8hc]

True and a testament to how capable they are even to this day, it takes america's best to defeat them. The more modern versions are absolutely frightening

[@Nanosuit37]

The Kid, " I let you live long enough so I could get close to watch you die and see the life leave your eyes."

[@Benoob06]

Would you intercept me?

[@Nanosuit37]

​@@Benoob06 😂😂😂 I'd intercept me.

[@SolemnHeretic]

If the F22 ever does lose its 'virginity', HLC should portray him as being perfectly normal for about a month until he starts getting 'the itch' again.

[@treyhelms5282]

@@Nanosuit37 "Glad that thing is on our side."

[@TheNerdForAllSeasons]

F22 flying over the exploding carcass of a Flanker with the Battlefield 2 theme blasting is FUCKING. CINEMA.

[@bigmal3128]

SU-27: "Got an IR lock on the F-22... Oh! Clever girl." BOOM

[@JonBrase]

A useful strategy might have been to launch the anti-rad and Fox-2 missiles in pairs, one actually tracking the target and the other fired blind in the same direction. The Fox 2s are going to do best from rear aspect, and the anti-rads can only see him from the front aspect (if he's actually illuminating anything).

[@coolhandab5296]

"Coincidentally" this is actual doctrine. Fire heavy AAMs in pairs, one radar-homing and one IR.

[@Danlovestrivium]

Would be cool to see if you could fire one of these R-27P at an AIM-120 after the 120 goes pitbull, using it as a countermessure if you had to.

[@zolikoff]

Would have at least been a mutual kill there at the end if he still had a P

[@PhillipChalabi]

"I don't think we will be going to the merge today" - Famous last words GS.

[@mackenzierinier4956]

I was thinking the same thing about the missile in the trees. Little Jimmy with his new radio just got smoked.

[@SplashJohn]

I was thinking little Jimmy with the cool new walkie-talkie he just got for his birthday.

[@neilkigers8047]

Love this series of "Outmatched" fights, you did well in this one!

[@williampremo2197]

The thing that really evens the fight in your favor is the fact you know virtually all the F22 characteristics.

[@heiditiso4995]

Can I get a W for toxic? Hats off to that guy.

[@christopher9979]

I LOVE this series. Would you please do more with the F-15C??

[@HoHum321]

🤣🤣🤣 "The S-300 isn't doing anything for me, so that's pretty cool." 🤣🤣🤣 ...Fkn comedian level humor... 😅

[@andersjjensen]

Would have been even funnier if the F-22 had taken it out...

[@tobiasbandt161]

that detailed rwr screenshot with labeling was a great addition and really interesting. Please more of those :D

[@brandonlackowski7375]

"A guy in the tree line camping and listening to the radio just got smoked" 😂😂 Thanks for a great laugh lol

[@thedeejlam]

The problem is your emission/rad-seeking missile couldn't find the F-22 pilot quoting Shakespeare over the radio at the time.

[@1984Phalanx]

Camping guy listening to his radio: "Ah it's so peaceful out here..."

[@calvinmasters6159]

"What's that sound?"

[@kittyhawk3831]

This fight concluded the old-fashioneds way... with a JOUST!!!

[@282XVL]

The flip and flare dump the Raptor pulled at the end there had some serious style points. Made what should normally be a mutual death banzai charge look like Bad Guy Number 8 in the credits doing a banzai charge against John Wick.

[@peterweller8583]

Kudos for thinking out side the box. That might have worked still condolences to your family.

[@heylookeveryoneitsjeff]

Those poor squirrels in that tree didn't stand a chance

[@tippership]

This was epic! Loving the overmatched series! Tho not a 30 or 35, I think you had a decent shot at this - but with him going cold and whatnot- you needed to set him up to fail- like go off to the side, his AWACS would have him come your way- you shoot a Magnum from long range- THEN duck behind a tall mountain- and he'd have no clue. Key would be shooting from far so he didn't shoot and crank away- Also, giving him a signal then hiding behind mountains so he gets way closer- then either waiting till he goes by, and hitting him with ETs, OR popping up briefly and using the anti rads, then hiding again- if he's too slow, he'll see you dissapear and won't crank away And if he gets close- we already saw, like a year ago or so, you do that series of fights raptor vs flanker where you used the cobra to one turn kill raptors- so you've got close range down to a T against raptors...though Toxic might remember that lol Day 105 / Video 53 of asking for ya to get some seat time in the Mig 31 , we haven't seen ya do that! Though you gotta get used to it, i dont think starting out with the foxhound in the overmatched series is the best way to learn it lol - though it could work with the right tactics(partially cheesy admittedly)- as even Raptors can't go Mach 3.....and R-37's from Mach 3 and 80,000 ft are deadly ....(though not sure if the Electro optical system will find a raptor from that high up- but HIS radar won't be elevated to be looking for you at that altitude , also- so.....Foxhound is the king of stealth, flying near 100k?)

[@NationChosenByGod]

That last kill by the F-22 was a thing of beauty.

[@Mav09]

F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New Day 52

[@Vhvjdow0ajsbcdhcuei3o22-om4sm]

As much as the enjoy the 1v1 fights, I would like to see some sort of escort included. In actual air combat fighters need to escort, say a bomber, and forced to engage one another. These 1v1 fights often include flying out of target range and playing as safe as possible, and those circumstances arent readily available for an escort.

[@vunoevdue]

Missile be like: *Looking for target, looking for target...* *SQUIRRELL!!!* 🐿🌲 🚀🎯 ☄ 💥💥💥

[@rmp5s]

Really shows the power of stealth. Can't shoot what you can't see.

[@user-tl5fi9lz9z]

He decoyed your Fox-2 by turning your aircraft into a huge ball of heat.

[@TheMcdili]

I love your content. I think it would be cool to have a series where you have partial or bad intelligence and end up in situations that you didn't prepare for but are forced to deal with. Just a random thought, love your stuff

[@bc3713]

That went from pretty relaxed to sphincter clenching hella fast

[@catcat1517]

Guys were out camping drinking some beers and you locked onto their bong.

[@MidnightAspec]

Raptor playing with its food once more.

[@iker42]

The disrespect of putting a missile out on you and not even going defensive.

[@MilitaryTechNerd006]

As soon as i saw toxic was flying i knew it was over for bro😂

[@SevPrime]

MiG-31 intercepting F-22 with their powerful radar and missiles I think it would make a great video

[@Packer1290]

I always read that thermal tracker is like searching the sky looking through a straw.

[@tmmy2ootuff843]

Good show! Taking on a Raptor mono et mono in a Raptor would be tough, and dude u were close in a Su, man. Way to hang in the fight. Your Frenemy in the 22 must be a seasoned virtual pilot too, I assume. That wasn't beginners luck, u were maneuvering him. Oh yeah, and R.I.P. the poor feller on the ground. vaporized

[@StealthCloudchaser]

Not gonna lie, I was hyped up to see you merge with the F 22 on the end, Great dogfight .

[@roadtrip6075]

The last scene was beautiful.

[@Gunni1972]

Well played to both pilots. Getting THAT close to an F-22 was unexpected. That was dogfighting range.

[@anthonyware4033]

I kept waiting for the F22 to form up off of your wing lol.

[@noamansattar]

New Fear: Don’t go camping Don’t listen to radio Drones are for little kids

[@CartoonrBOY]

"Ahhh - I love camping. Wait - what the hell is tha..." BOOM!

[@spider_corsa]

I wonder how this missile isn't start tracking the AMRAAM? It's also an air target and also have its own radar emission (especially after the enemy aircraft going cold and/or turn off the radar).

[@MikeIsTooCommonAName]

Does it count as a merge if your wreckage crosses past him?

[@kdaltex]

Call the missile a "Trojan" since it uses the enemy radar against itself unknowingly

[@benn454]

*remembers the time a Raptor joined up and flew formation with GS's Flanker* I think I've seen this movie before... 🤔

[@GenKi.13]

Great video as always, but sometime i miss the TacView. To see how close or far everything went

[@bgl11]

Agreed! A quick tacview for the survive series would be fun to see.

[@kjkh3104]

Same

[@SolNacht]

Well done, that was good to watch, you kept it very close.

[@davidmason9118]

Incredible cinematics at the end. WELL DONE.

[@fedirkryvyi]

Is it possible that those missiles are also looking for an AMRAM radar and it makes them loose aim?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

a great theory, if there is pitbull amraam I would imagine yes, this missile should and probably would target the amraam.

[@SpiderAUT88]

9:50 that rocket knew who the real enemy is: mother nature 😂

[@drewm4914]

This reminds me of the last time GS in the -27 went up against the F-22.

[@donnibrasko1]

Raptor playing with his food always entertaining! love the content, continued success

[@SirDavidPaladin]

That squirrel trying to radio his family just got smoked.

[@artemistominson]

Bro that "objective: survive" at the begging cracked me up.

[@sebastiencausse4152]

MORE supremely outmatched! It's load of fun and suspense!!

[@NXL269]

If that "HARM" is looking for radar emissions could it lock onto an enemy missle and not the aircraft that launched it? Or am I misunderstanding it?

[@juraspeed2112]

Awesome as all ways such a visual joy to watch!!! Thanks

[@firepilot17]

I have definitely been missing the F22 in your videos and were so excited to see F22 in the description - then you’re not flying it. DAMMIT!

[@sedrickroundtree2534]

Curious to see the harrier jet vs f35

[@memoxd722]

f-14 vs j-20 next pleaseee

[@W1ckedRcL]

Wait a minute... I've seen this episode before. Didn't end well last time, if I recall 😂 Watch your mirrors.

[@MichelVaillancourt]

that was a matter of ten seconds ... remarkably close call for the F22

[@strainrx]

epic ending. one of my faves from your videos.

[@InfusedBio]

That last kill was as cool as it gets. You were panicking knowing that you were about to merge and there is basically no way to win now, so there was pretty much no point in waiting to get a missile off because the F-22 still got the coolest kill by effortlessly shooting you in the face and then just lightly dodging the missile before running off into the sunset. Crazy kill, almost would have won too.

[@Fryguy101]

7:24 I would argue it's technically a Fox-1 Semi-Active Radar Guided Missile. It's entirely dependent upon the target being illuminated with radar, the only difference is that it's dependent upon the target illuminating itself with radar, rather than being radar-painted by the attacking aircraft.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

looool so harms are also fox1s ? because the SAM is technically illuminating itself ? the logic needs some work my dude.

[@Fryguy101]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Nope, because a HARM isn't air-to-air. Fox is NATO brevity code for air-to-air. So as the one we're talking about is air-to-air, within Fox-1 (Semi-active Radar), Fox-2 (IR Guided), and Fox-3 (Active radar guided), it most closely matches Fox-1. Unless and until NATO creates Fox-4 for 'passive radar guided', it's the best I got.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

@@Fryguy101 ya but we can make things up, but what's the closest thing that exists today....for a missile that hunts radiation ? of course given the opportunity a new code would be assigned in real life, and it would probably have a fox designation I'm just trying not to make things up and use the already existing logic. Btw fox4 already exists it what they use to call guns. So even with that logic maybe you have go to fox5

[@Fryguy101]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Sure, Magnum works also, but the entire point of brevity codes is to build situational awareness. Fox-1 gets across that you're firing air-to-air, which I'd argue is the more important distinction. Of course, in DCS there's nobody else who needs to hear it so it's moot. I just thought it was a fun exercise to work out which of the existing Fox-# it would be.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

ya I think if tasked in real life to come up with a brev code for it, it might be fox4/5 since no says fox4 for guns anymore. but ya I agree its an interesting thought exercise.

[@isiaharellano3789]

"Would you intercept me? *smacks lips* I'd intercept me."

[@shadowsavage1014]

Would love to see a J-20 vs Su57 Video

[@pmgvictor4625]

I’ll have to give any pilot props on a Fox 2 Hail Mary as the F-22 is staring down at you and knowing it’s already over.

[@bonwestlake3928]

This happened a while back but two F-22’s snuck up on Iranian F-4’s that where trying to shoot a pedator. They never even knew the 22’s were in their airspace. The American pilot told them boys to go home. Great show!

[@diesirae8954]

Has this ever been proved?

[@diesirae8954]

Or is it just one of those stories the oldies tell to the youngins?

[@thatguy-fu1ig]

Was confirmed yes. Its a old thing tho. ​@diesirae8954

[@calvinmasters6159]

I've wondered about that. Stealth, with it's shaped airframe and absorbent coating, is fine, but what about the radar? Remember "Wild Weasels"? Using enemy radar as a homing beacon?

[@thomasfarley5070]

Fantastic video!

[@Zermattquattro]

I was so rooting for a mutual kill at the end there.

[@silverblueshadow]

i expected a raptor win. didnt think to give the russians that much credit for what they boast with their capabilities

[@MarginalSC]

That radar tree regretted its decisions