DCS: Air Density Vs. Missile Energy.

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This is just a basic video discussing some very simple principles when it comes to defending yourself from incoming missiles. in this video we discuss drag, air density and the effects it has on a missile. This information is the kind of stuff I wish people had given me when I had first started DCS and I'm just hoping this will help some of the newer players out there who may not be familiar with these concepts.
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[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Hey guys, just some real basic concepts here, nothing too complicated. just a side note, if the opponent does the same you did (drags the missile down) whoever recommits and fires again will usually win. so keep ur head in the fight. good luck and thanks for all ur support on the channel. its been an amazing few months seeing it grow. thank you guys.

[@GeneralFresh]

love your work mate. keep it up.

[@TheSpaseDestroyeR]

If possible you can do chess like battles (if he does this do this, if he counters try that...etc.) Thank you for all the hard work !

[@TheSpaseDestroyeR]

dundun92 i understand and yet i want to know the possibilities to get the upper hand

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

ya I know what you mean but approaching like that will more than likely get you killed. what you can do is learn these different maneuvers and have them in your "toolbox" but at the end of the day it comes down to your pilot skill and Situational awareness as to which one you decide to use.

[@TheSpaseDestroyeR]

Growling Sidewinder i will be waiting for your next videos then 😊

[@bar1456320]

i dont even play dcs and i really like your videos, it's just always interesting.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

בר קורב haha that's awesome man thank you

[@John-fe1cd]

I'm also in that group haha.

[@MlTGLIED]

Once I played LockOn Flanker 1.0 for many years. But now I have no time for that. thats why I watch your videos.

[@msingh683]

Same here

[@snakeoo7ca]

It's never too late to start, we need good men on DCS!

[@Vampiresquid007]

I work as an aircraft engineer. And holy moly i didnt expect dcs to even have physics for missile performance under different heights. This is amazing. I remember using simple dodge mechanics in F-22 lightning 3.. Ancient but good game at its time.. obviously it didnt have the mechanics but if you wanted to dodge you had to make the missile turn so bad that it would lose energy and miss. Good vid.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thank you glad you liked it. and yes DCS has deff taken it to the next level when it comes to attention to detail.

[@Planehazza]

It's not unique to DCS. Falcon BMS simulates this too.

[@Vampiresquid007]

@@Planehazza i figured it would be posible for falcon bms too. I also havent gotten my mind set to play it yet. Love dcs so far.

[@mikkihintikka7273]

@@Planehazza is it as good sim as dcs?

[@SidiVici]

Best DCS channel! I do always learn a lot. Thank you GS!!!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

ur too kind mate. glad you found it helpful

[@EbonySeraphim]

Totally agree here. I've found Volk is best in class for helicopter systems and tactics in DCS (A-G operations). I really need the equivalent of this channel for A-G tactics across all modules. Obviously would need to point out how different aircraft will generically be able see some targets, or hit certain shots others can't reasonably pull off.

[@recon17]

I always thought that by pulling down from a higher altitude you might increase the chance of getting hit by the missile. I didn't thought of the fact that increased density would slow down the missile. But now I know that i was wrong. Thank you @GS.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I thought the same thing when I first started out. glad to hear you found it helpful.

[@grumpyfinn]

@@GrowlingSidewinder lol

[@m0rph3u5.]

Your channel is truly an encyclopedia with a lot of timeless gems like this one

[@Name-ps9fx]

Awesome video showing air density effects on missiles...kudos also to whoever made that missile chart!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

yes that chart is very handy.

[@Buzmanni]

Source for the chart: docs.google.com/document/d/1DqdPRmZ2rQmy5JsGYflRr3So51FJDbflwM3YsimTnIg The chart in the video actually shows the range of the missile when fired at cold bandit flying at Mach 1.1. There's another chart in the document that shows the head on range.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

@@Buzmanni you got the English version of this doc ?

[@madingahmar4420]

Great video man! As always, quality delivered. I’m surprised about the amount of content this channel has. I never loose interest. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 hope the channel grows.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks man, that means a lot to me, its already grown farther than I could have ever imagined thank you to guys like you who watch and who support with the nice comments it really helps me keep up the motivation to keep recording editing and posting all these videos. you guys will always be appreciated here.

[@charles_wipman]

All this info it's great helps to learn to fly and also learn to fight; clean and clear, i like it.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

glad you found it helpful

[@nadoProducer]

Neat transition to the Tac View segment man, good stuff

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks man, that took me some srs time to make, so I appreciate that.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

ahaha. i'm not sure how I feel about you falling asleep to my voice mate. I might just start dropping random tacview slams in the middle of the video.

[@Boslandschap1]

I think your videos are amazing. No BS, great explanation & interesting stuff.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thank you, i'm glad you find them helpful mate

[@RockGeek00]

Physics fact of the day: In the absence of any external forces and provided your already on a heading towards your target then yes a straight line would be the quickest way between 2 points along with being the shortest distance. However when external forces get involved and when you start out moving on a different heading than your target the brachistochrone will always be the quickest way between 2 points with no exceptions. Keep up the good work though I love watching these videos.

[@Power5]

You have to add a few more variables into your assessment though. A brachistochrone curve only works best when living creatures and airframes with G limits are not involved. "Always" the quickest way between 2 points with a difference in altitude where the destination is below the start point, and when the object does not have a biological G limit, or when the airframe does not have a mechanical G limit. Theories are always nice to understand, but you also need to know how to correctly apply them to the situation you are looking at.

[@RockGeek00]

@@Power5 Yes this is also why AI piloted planes will probably replace human ones within the next century they can calculate the most efficient trajectories on the fly, react faster and only have to worry about the integrity of the air-frame when dealing with limits. I mean they already can outfly human pilots nearly 100% of the time in simulations with the computing power of a raspberry pi. Its only a matter of time.

[@Power5]

Again though the plane has mechanical limits so a theoretical slope is never going to be possible. Again, the brachistochrone curve figures on a stationary object and not trying to go vertical down. The fastest way to the point directly below plane will always be maximum G roll over pull down dive. Either the plane avionics or the human pilot will determine the maximum G.

[@MlTGLIED]

Once I played LockOn Flanker 1.0 on Win95/98 for many years. But now I have no time for that. thats why I watch your videos.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

much appreciated mate.

[@RM-el3gw]

Great video! Also I know I've been late to mention this, but this new microphone that you are using is great! Cheers! Favorite DCS channel btw, I learn a lot from your explanations.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

haha thanks i'm glad you guys are liking the new mic, its deff a big improvement for the channel thanks to all who pushed me to get it.

[@wesleysugalski2842]

Hi Buddy ! That was sweet tach on Basic Concepts and this is the way win Dogfights. Thank for super video...

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

wessssley. hey buddy, thank you glad you enjoyed it.

[@moshoyoko2480]

Very nice and detailed explanation there GS, this is refreshing my tactics/understanding, GR8 job there on the TacView M8!, love your vids!, I find myself going through the older ones as well, plz keep it up M8!! :)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Moishy Ok thank you man. U always comment on my stuff and ur always supportive. Grateful to have subs like you.

[@moshoyoko2480]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Grateful to have content creators like you man! And I mean it!! :)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Moishy Ok thank you brother

[@Paul91415]

And those armchair generals say whoever fires first wins, and a missile on it's way is a 100% hit/kill....

[@nakotaapache4674]

thanks for sharing tactical attack and defense Information

[@solngv8]

Cool idea to use thicker air density to drastically shorten a missile's effective range.

[@grumpyfinn]

not an idea. an established actual tactic, he read it or was told.... didnt come up with it himself

[@solngv8]

@@grumpyfinn I didn't say Growling Sidewinder was the first to come up with the idea. But, if It wasn't for him I would've never known about it.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

@@grumpyfinn ya I didnt see him say anywhere that he thought I made it this tactic up lol. little quick on that trigger finger there mauri

[@grumpyfinn]

Lol

[@sylas1985]

Very nice video again. One thing crosses my mind though. You not only led this fox to the dense air but also increased the distance by coming down thus the missile had to travel more and more into denser environment with every feet it flew down. BTW. From what I see that the gain from using G to propel the missile it's not that significant to overcome fraction forces in a denser environment. Anyway it's indeed a good video - thanks for it :)

[@bearnicholas3830]

such great information keep up the good work....!!!!!!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thank you and willco mate.

[@satish8299]

you could be a great teacher for fighter pilots right. wow thanks, that was interesting.

[@JG10rBull]

Nice man, very informative again going to try some of this stuff out with the F18. I bought my new laptop yesty and she eats DCS get 130fps at Alt and 70-90 low.. I train up with the F18 and see you in the Sky Soon !!! 👍 10/10

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

awesome man, i'll see you up there.

[@UBSORRY]

Nice!!! I might download it today. I need to start practicing

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

UBSORRY join the discord too buddy lots of help in there for new comers

[@thomasfinch5605]

Dude. You have some real understanding of balistic flight dynamics and energy conservation. Generally speaking, you have an amazing grasp on modern aerial tactics... Where did you learn this? Sim iterations?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks man I really appreciate that. I have watched many documentaries read many books and a lot of more pro players helping me with this stuff behind the curtains tossing me sources and other things, basically I'll read and watch anything I can get my hands on when it comes to this stuff.

[@b3rno]

Is the gravity pull effect involved - or it has the coffee break? They both fired a missile almost in the same time, ok? Aim-120 that goes up gain more energy than the diving one???? Following that logic - all object coming from above must decelerate because of the air density. Especially small and aerodynamic objects. Of course the air cause drag but gravity pull should have more impact on the object than air density. The higher you fired the missile the further it should go and the higher pk In the video above it works just opposite

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

once again, firing at higher altitude works better if the target stays at high altitude due to the missile pushing thru thin air to get it. increases the range almost 4x. its not that gravtiy doesn't have an effect, its just not as big of an effect as air drag. you can see the missile at 30000 feet impacts at mach 3. while the one in dense are is basically dead. it still has speed due to gravity, but not enough for it to guide itself onto a target.

[@payupich]

Wow man I never would have thought that… I thought pulling the missile down would help it gain speed… cool

[@Official_Roz]

Nice vid GS, love it.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks man, glad you enjoyed it.

[@payupich]

Awesome vids dude

[@therealcharliesix7126]

Well done as usual!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thank you Michael.

[@shapiro5000]

Nice video! Now I see why you go inverted before firing - so you can just drop towards the ground.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

exactly.

[@enduril122]

"Jeest".. a gamer... a really smart guy

[@PierreFromBelgium]

Nice explained !

[@rainham47]

Entertaining and helpful

[@GeorgeCee]

Great video. awesome.

[@Batmack]

I would never think that, missiles being much faster than their terminal velocity, they would loose energy by diving, drag being worse than the potential energy they convert to speed, while it seems quite obvious and common sense. Feeling pretty dumb right now.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

haha. as long as you learned something new mate thats all that matters.

[@Batmack]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Sure, thanks for it. I used to do that in Thirdwire's SF2, (wich seemed much more "Lite" even before they went full arcade) more to loose myself in the ground clutter and run faster than the missiles could turn, but now that i got to see this, I remember how they just seemed to be anemic, rather than loosing lock. Particularly odd when you could use it with Kuwait's EE Lightnings against Iranian Tomcats.

[@nacionalistadaesquerdacent9069]

Good stuff!

[@Ricomefusula]

Hi there! I'm loving your videos man, they got me to seriously go back to DCS and actually try to learn it (it'd been sitting in my Steam library forever). Anyway, here's my question for you: this type of tactic works great when using Fox-3 type missiles, but what if you're only equipped with Fox-1 and 2's? (i.e. the S530 and Magic II from the Mirage 2000C) I feel like I'm hugely outgunned whenever I fly that plane, but God knows I won't stop using it..! Thanks for your work!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thank you glad you're finding them useful. for semi active missiles i'd recommend the fpole maneuver mate. fox2 its just a matter of getting close enough. I'm not a good mirage pilot myself but i would probably stay low and use terrain masking if I was going against anything with fox3s. and wait until they come close enough, pop up and hit them with a fox1 or even a 2 if theyre close enough.

[@LuisLopez-zh9kh]

This still applies to Over G fighters- an Xbox 360 game from 2006 :P

[@allent555]

Great lesson!!!!! Thanks

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

glad you enjoyed it allen

[@avramnovorra]

This begs a question I've been thinking of since I've watched some of your BVR fights: since DCS obviously takes air pressure vs altitude into account, does the Mach number also factor in air density, considering sound travels faster at sea level than it does at altitude?

[@mjbrennan99]

Every time I decide to watch one of your excellent videos, my first gut reaction is to switch to a Fox3 so I don't have to listen to your growl.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

haha sorry about that bruh. on the bright side you only have to listen to it growl for like 2 seconds

[@TheSpaseDestroyeR]

Great video!

[@VishalJoshi-sk8ll]

Woow, another one. Ur video was Helpful & @least Entertaining, cheers.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks so much man, glad you enjoy them

[@Astronut128]

Thanks for the info. I'm planning on buying my first DCS module when they go on sale. The only thing I'm worried about atm is DCS world is frequently crashing during loading and when in flight is dropping frames frequently.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

youre very welcome are u sure that your computer can handle dcs ?

[@Astronut128]

Definitely higher than what Steam recommends, although the ram may be pushing it. GTX 1080 SC i7 4770k 16 GB DDR3 (2133 iirc)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Astronut128 hmmm that should be more able to handle DCS. Do u have an SSD drive you can put DCS on?

[@Astronut128]

I've got it on a high speed ssd. Today I tried the newest beta version and it appears to have resolved the crashes and reduced the frame dropping to tolerable levels.

[@Astronut128]

I've just now got Flaming Cliffs 3 since it went on sale but I just noticed that most modules don't officially transfer between steam and the standalone version, although I see some posts saying they can "transfer" UNofficially. Have you had any experience with that? The last post of both threads mention something about it: forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=202493 steamcommunity.com/app/223750/discussions/0/618458030680254680/?ctp=2

[@sg0101010]

Thank you very good, much appreciated. Good explanations. Hard to see in the video but when you did fire your shot, were you close enough that you didn't have to wait for it to go pitbull before you went down ?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks steve, and yes thats correct, thats also another reason why you can only do this with fox3 (active radar homing)

[@JohnSmith-yr6je]

Damn never knew there were so many calculations and effects with missiles. I always thought they were heat seekers or active radar like in battlefield 4 and all you had to do was pop flare to avoid being hit or turn on after burner and head down to out run the missile.

[@andrejvolcansek3232]

id also add putting the missile to 90 degrees (3 or 9 oclock) and affording myself a bit shallower dive (70-80 °), think that would bleed even more energy off the missle, since it will have to turn on two axes, spendin some extra energy on vertical axis turn. right? :)

[@colonelstriker2519]

Could you do a video for these instruments on your cockpit? I want to learn in depth on what these shapes mean or what even is the radar at this point

[@CNSFX]

Are there tables that show missile max G? There should be turn performance tables for certain altitudes and missile models. I have some older books but they don’t publish this data.

[@smrdamudic47]

Can anyone post that graph about missile effective range, would be very gratefull. Great video,as always!

[@oleksandraverchenko9920]

Ackchyually. You never fire standalone missile. It's always a salvo with sound interval, to counter basic maneuvers and harass adversary.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

ya I understand what youre saying but theres no need to fire 4 amraams when you CAN kill him with 1 given u use the right tactics. that being said in an online situation i've also harassed an enemy with 3 amraams but I think its situation specific.

[@kamraniqbal5183]

great, thank u

[@kylewalbroehl408]

Is their any reason why you inverted when you fired your missile

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Kyle Walbroehl just to go into the dive faster. It's a one second difference but at those distances it can be life or death.

[@kylewalbroehl408]

Growling Sidewinder ok that makes a lot of senses thankyou. Love the videos btw keep up the good work

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Kyle Walbroehl thank you man willco

[@StoneCoolds]

Kyle Walbroehl its called the cool factor. It gives you 25% of badass boost xD

[@sbtjlhw111]

imo if you inverted like he did, it gives you positive g and forces your blood to go to your stomach, if you didn't and dive anyway, it gives you negative g and blood rush into your brain, and iirc most fighter jets maneuver faster in positive g

[@sterlingarcher4989]

When you released your missile and rolled towards the ground, you lost your lock. Had it gone pit bull straight off the rail?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

yes, even if it hadn't done pitbull it would have automatically done so having lost the lock. but yes at the range I was firing from it would have gone pitbull off the rail.

[@sterlingarcher4989]

Thanks for the reply - going to practice tonight - great video, can’t believe I hadn’t already subscribed (remedied).

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thank you and welcome to the channel.

[@ewthmatth]

Interesting. So that’s why phoenix missles go high i guess.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

one of the many reasons I'm sure.

[@JPROP-vb7sv]

Im thinking about getting into dcs. Does this game have tutorials to teach you all this stuff. It seem a bit overwhelming

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

it is over whelming at first but you just have to stick with it, lots of tutorials on youtube, also join a discord where people can help answer your questions. come into it with the understanding that its a very complex sim and it will take you months to really become competent. its worth it tho its a lot of fun.

[@JPROP-vb7sv]

@@GrowlingSidewinder thank you sir. Im still building the PC at the moment but I want to get into it in VR. Seems like a blast and I have always been interested in combat aviation.

[@sbtjlhw111]

At one point in my life, I thought split-S spelled like split ass I want to get AIM120'ed

[@charlesmagrin6260]

awesome tuto thx! could you please explain and demonstrate the differences between the Amraam and Sidewinders variants (AIM120 B/C & AIM9 M/L/P available in DCS) that would be helpful thanks! :)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

i'll certainly look into it man. see what I can do, no promises

[@charlesmagrin6260]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Yeah I mean if that's interesting for other people too, anyway thanks for always replying to the comments man ;)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Charles Magrin my pleasure man, I really enjoy talking with u guys actually, so it's a win win for everyone.

[@CNSFX]

There’s a website publicintelligence.net/u-s-navy-f-18-natops-flight-manuals/ that has the real flight manuals but when it comes to weapons systems the info is classified as you’d expect.

[@ChadGatling]

What is the purpose of inverting before firing?

[@ChrisCom.]

This guy is a st8 up “G”

[@RyuKimGaming]

Im sub you because i liked your gameplay, tactics, and you give all important information about dogfigts, gun range, etc. Do you have a Tutorial Section? I played this game once but saldy i never understand it. Cheers ;)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks so much, im glad youre enjoying the content, I dont really have a section per say I just randomly make guides based on ideas that come to mind.

[@RyuKimGaming]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Alright! , Maybe in the future, i found you a Good instructor of this game, i know there are others, but you grab me up ;)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks man, i'll try not to disappoint in the future,

[@GeFlixes]

What's the point where an air fight goes from a fight against the enemy missiles (in terms of energy/manouvering) to a fight against the enemy fighter? Isn't the fighter that has more height and speed at about 13:00 in a better position to recommit? It comes always down to 'chance of missile evasion' vs. 'time, energy, and chance to commit to the next offensive manouvre', doesn't it? For that reason, an F-Pole or Beam would be superiour to air-to-air-missile anti-energy manouvering, especially if you don't have any Fox 3s to force the enemy into a defensive manouver (That's the reason M2000c against the major FC3 fighters is so challenging).

[@KC98561]

Excellent video. Could a plane out of chaff decoy a radar homing missile by pickling the drop tanks at an interval?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

mmmm no. not that I know of. but its an interesting idea.

[@KC98561]

Im thinking the F-15 tanks because they are so huge and while moving away from the missile.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

kevin cvalciuc ya I can see ur logic. I know it doesn't work in DCS. I have no idea about real life.

[@KC98561]

Ok, thanks. I know the Iranians did something similar in the Iran-Iraq war since they didnt have chaff dispensers they would put foil and other pieces of metal inside the air brakes and then deploy as a decoy.

[@milanprica7513]

Doubtful. Tanks are much smaller radar signatures than chaffs which disperse to large area. Also I think they lose speed and trajectory much faster which helps the missile to filter them out.

[@russhogan6967]

I think it would be really cool if you did a video of you in an F 14 vs a Saint Adversary vfc-13 😎. Top Gun? Never heard of him 😂😂😂

[@joshuatiu1177]

Nice video! Would it be possible to do this while keeping radar lock and within effective missile range, perhaps to guide semi active missiles? Thanks!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

preform F pole for semi active missiles is my advice.

[@dmenager]

But when the missile goes down line that, even though it's entering more dense air, does it gain an energy advantage due to gravity pulling it down?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

yes it does get help from gravity but next to drag it appears to be minuscule.

[@SuperAWaC]

no because it's so light

[@L3AF]

Going from high to low dont that increase the rockets speed as well just that it looses energy faster when it runs out of fuel?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

it still gets help from gravity but drag will kill its speed so fast it won't be able to hit a maneuvering target anymore. even with the help from gravity.

[@petersmythe6462]

I see a lot of people, mostly Americans, who seem to think modern air-to-air kills occur at 50 or 100 or 150 kilometers. This is possible but very misleading.

[@S3NTRY]

Is there guesswork involved in when to go high again?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

not really i mean guess maybe in a way, the more u do it, the more you learn the behavior of the missiles.it becomes muscle memory.

[@jemarcatubig3171]

Can anyone enlighten me on why does diving bleeds missile energy but on aircrafts, diving gives them more energy. Is it because of thrust?

[@bruhh6805]

Dark docs narrator vs this guy

[@markstanton9620]

The AI seems poor on his side, a human would have increased speed and put himself at a 90 degree angle to your missile maybe even try a 180 escape.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

yes the objective was not to demo a fight tho, it was to demo missile evasion, I just needed something to fire a missile at me so I could bleed it out.

[@MikoMuru]

Spam chaff and make the missile recalculate its trajectory until its out of gas :)

[@maximilianbeyer9268]

You‘re breaking lock at around 10.5 nm. Is this already within pitbull range? (Always thought it was at about 8nm)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Maximilian Beyer even if it's not it's fine, ur essentially forcing the missile pitbull before it would like but it can still do it at that range. I recently learned the terminalogy for this, it's called a "cheap shot"

[@maximilianbeyer9268]

Thank you, i didn‘t know about that :)

[@DanielPerezS]

Do you wait until pitbull before turning down?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

u dont have to, its called a cheapshot. you can break off before pitbull and Force the missile to go pitbull.

[@SuperAWaC]

comfy

[@Topbuzzr]

Any info on beating Sam

[@jcairlanga]

Night gun battle?

[@ComandoAdler2]

Only I know is that the first fired missile from long range (r-Max) are going to become garbage

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

ya. the only thing it can kinda do is make him go defensive and even then a simple crank will defeat that missile.

[@OGhistorian]

You can't fire a missile while inverted

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I did tho

[@JoJo-vm8vk]

I'm astonished by how dumb is the AI. Turning straight into incoming Fox 3...really ??? At least in Falcon 4 they know how to pump !!!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

lol don't look at this as how smart the AI was, he wasnt supposed to actually "fight" me, his only job was to fire missiles at me.

[@adamsmith5151]

Your voice sounds like you have a little Canadian win you. lol

[@samr6148]

#science