DCS: PvP Mig-29s Vs F-18 Hornet 3 Round Duel/Fight

[@bobroberts4356]

Gotta say you really bring a great deal of professionalism and information in your videos, really helpful for someone like me getting in to dcs

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

comments like this are why I do it. thanks for noticing and ur feedback. I appreciate it very much and I'm glad you find it helpful.

[@Arkeny-SS]

lets fly .. im new to

[@MatterBeamTSF]

This is the best air combat content on youtube. You're a great commentator to boot.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thank you i appreciate that very much

[@hariszark7396]

Mig-29 , one of the most beautiful airplanes....

[@Topper_Harley68]

Very easy to spot cause the engines makes a lot of smoke.

[@harv5425]

The MiG 29 is just beautiful

[@aharonmizrachi440]

F16 > mig 29

[@IShyper]

​@@Topper_Harley68 - acording to one polish MiG-29 pilot there is "wartime" setting for these engines where they do not smoke, but degrade like 3 times as fast as in normal conditions, which obviously is not that big of a problem in war time.

[@ReneGarS]

Rolf Berge not in the new mig 35

[@initialhunter7]

man i love how the Mig looks.

[@recon17]

Now what can I say, really good and informative video as always. The PvP videos are good. It brings more fun to watch other players on the channel.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you, glad you like it. no more AI on this channel probably

[@recon17]

Well actually you should do the AI part for much more informative stuff.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

can u elaborate on what you mean?

[@recon17]

What i meant was that it might be a bit hard to get players for doing educational videos that you put out on your channel. In such cases a video with an AI will be fine. If i was too dumb just forget it. :)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

ahah no no I understand, ya tutorials ur right that could be challenging. for those I'll use AI. but when it comes to fights...nah no more AI

[@shapiro5000]

You did a good job learning lessons from the first and implementing them. Having a better missile doesn't mean unbeatable if terrain is in the way or you haven't been locked up yet.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks jeff

[@sudhannadandasgupta780]

Great Vid once again! I think this vid underscores the tactical and technological capabilities between a Gen4 and a Gen4.5 fighter. The Hornet will always have an advantage of superior tech especially in long range and BVR engagements with early Gen4 adversaries like the Fulcrum which was amply evident in the first engagement here and also holds true in he real world. Having said that, the Fulcrum is a lethal weapon in the hands of a right pilot and can jump up and bite the ass of any modern 4.5Gen fighters in close manoeuvre dog fights within visual range with both guns and missiles. Especially due to its extreme manoeuvring capabilities, the Fulcrum has advantage in lower altitude and closer to deck 1-1 skirmish as was amply evident from the last 2 engagements. You have clear tactical advantage with the Fulcrum when you are initiating low lever/low altitude engagements because although the Fulcrum did not come with FBW tech, it is so nimble and agile with instantaneous and sustained turn hi alpha capability. Later upgrades of the Fulcrum including the Carrier version also have thrust vectoring capable engines. Great job as always! Look forward.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks and awesome info, thanks for sharing. U sure know ur stuff.

[@sudhannadandasgupta780]

Growling Sidewinder you are welcome dude! You may be interested to note that Indian Airforce is one of the largest (if not the largest) operators of the Fulcrum (both Land and Carrier variants) outside of Russia. So we are supposed to be subject matter experts as far this particular Bird is concerned! 😂

[@bastianshurma548]

Really enjoying this PvP thing. Hope you keep it coming. Also...stunning graphics are u running DCS on a stolen NASA computer?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thanks for letting the secret out...

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

HP OMEN 880-130 - Windows 10 Intel Core i7-8700K 2TB HDD / 1TB SSD 32GB DDR4 RAM GTX 1080 Ti

[@clos242003]

Now we know where to look. Thanks. ; )

[@danieldorn2927]

thats the same setup i have, but i use vr

[@sadekgheidan]

@@danieldorn2927 I'd sue you if you had a 1080TI and up and did NOT use it for VR...

[@alangarnto873]

Loved the video as usual.keep them coming watching these has made my tv a sidewinder show.god bless stay safe

[@Blablablabla1ify]

Love your videos, Mr Growling Sidewinder! Very matter of fact coupled with clever and skilful piloting. Flankertraining taught me how to fight in the F-15 a few years ago, both with systems and the advanced theory of flight such as corner speed, sustained turn rate etc. Now I really enjoy your input on tactics. Many thanks! ps - I think I prefer your old GS intro, as in this vid. Somehow its simplicity better sums you up. In my very humble opinion! Please keep your stuff coming! Edit: obviously I mean simplicity in a good way. Relating to what I wrote about being matter of fact.

[@connleth_208]

Very cool. I like the way you did it. Keep these coming

[@UninstallUpdate]

Thank you Delta

[@formallyknownasj.a.2074]

Awesome flying again man, I was pulling for ya. Really like these 1v1 vids.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you man I appreciate that, and thanks for the feedback. a lot of people seem to be liking these so I'll be bringing a lot more down the road. I'm thinking no more AI. ever

[@formallyknownasj.a.2074]

@@GrowlingSidewinder I still like the AI vids too. Sometimes they seem a little more tacticle (sometimes).

[@shidfard1544]

U make rly good content mate keep going gotta feeling you'll be big

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you man. I appreciate that. Plenty more where this came from.

[@shidfard1544]

@@GrowlingSidewinder np and good luck

[@Xenon4d]

1 vs 1 with fighters is awesome... The winner is that pilot, that's fire the best rocket...

[@sdfg88]

I'd love to see 2v2. Wingman tactics and coordination would demonstrate to viewers how hard it is

[@UBSORRY]

Love it!!!! Just amazing. I can watch this clips all day!!!!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks man, glad ur enjoying the content

[@fauzaanachmadillah4670]

Pretty educational tutorial! No one is the best,all depends on pilot skills

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

wouldnt call it a tutorial man. just a talk through thanks thought I appreciate that

[@matthewbender9152]

Round 3, to the face....

[@lilletrille8998]

Awesome video! Looking forward to the next!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Lille Trille thank you glad u liked it

[@moshoyoko2480]

Nice vid mate! Plz keep em coming!, I'm still waiting for my Hornet vs Flanker heat seekers duel tho 😉

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thanks man, I plan on doing that one soon....I might have to pilot the flanker tho...I'll have to brush up first.

[@moshoyoko2480]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Thanks GS. You're the best!! :)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

u the man bruh

[@fuzy9400]

Nice battle. More PvP in this channel!

[@wesleysugalski2842]

Hi Buddy ! I like that #2 Run, was Mig-29 " Thing"- very nice Kill...……………………………………….. Thanks x video.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

wessssleyyyy. hey buddy. thanks. glad u enjoyed it brother.

[@jordananderson2728]

I'd love to see more of these videos, but with the other pilot in a call to hear both perspectives of the dogfight!

[@JoJo-vm8vk]

If you want to bluff with Russian fighters in DCS you can override launch authorisation, there is key combination for it. Round one: maybe you could have used ECM to delay Hornet first shot. Usually with M-2000 I use it down to 20Nm where we are under burn through range anyway. Sometimes it’s good to release a Fox 3 to cover a “pump” and kind of “reset” the engagement 👍 But great show 👍👍👍

[@baafschaf2143]

Man your videos are pretty enjoyable... keep it up pls!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Baaf Schaf thank u man, willco

[@GeorgeCee]

I'm also having fun flying the MIG29. It is really a very under rated aircraft. It's powerful. great duals. :)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

only the mig29s model, not the mig29a. the "s" model has the r77 adders, and the ECM, "a" model is garbage I find (maybe i'm just bad with it I dont know) but no r77 capability and no ECM...

[@TheGranicd]

Well 29A is basic old model. For comparison F16A didnt even have BWR capability. Tho F16s got upgraded but Mig29s mostly didnt.

[@robertcurtis1191]

shame it still uses the simple flight model. Hopefully it will be updated............someday.

[@MrZockerfreak11]

Robert Curtis 4 days. Check forums

[@allent555]

Enjoy the After Action reporting. Good job. It makes for good videos

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thank you glad you enjoyed it

[@madingahmar4420]

Yess!!! More pvp👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

as promised brother.

[@tarakatutube]

Another great video ! Keep them coming !!

[@solngv8]

The second fight is an interesting concept. The terrain turns your's and your opponent's aircraft into stealth not knowing the exact whereabouts of each other. That could lead into nice tactics such as sneaking past your opponent, 180 turn, pop up for a good scan, lock on while your opponent is looking in the opposite direction from you, and then send a missile up his tailpipe.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

solngv8 yes but to be fair I didn’t mean to do that haha. I was just lucky it worked out that way

[@DAPA8484]

Nice video, 'winder. Your vids (and the Tacview breakdowns) have really helped me better understand the complexities of modern combat sims, which is a wee bit more complex than the WWI and II stuff I normally fly in IL-2. Quick question: Has ED updated the MiG-29 flight model like they did with the Flanker? I know they announced plans to do so last year but can't recall if it has happened yet. Then again, knowing ED and all they have going on..... probably not...lol

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

hi there thanks for the kind feedback. someone else was just commenting about the flight model and if I remember correctly ED said they were releasing it the 10th of this month so in 5 days.

[@DAPA8484]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Nice. The Fulcrum is one of my favorite fighters....the new flight model will add interest for sure. Thanks!

[@Nanne118]

We are supposedly not only going to get a new Professional Flight Model (PFM) for the MiG-29, but also a new cockpit and a number of new features (with in cockpit manipulation), though as to what that may exactly entail is yet unclear. From the newsletter: "However, on 10 October we will release the updated MiG-29 Fulcrum for Flaming Cliffs 3! This will include a Professional Flight Model (PFM), updated cockpit, and several new cockpit system functions. This will be a FREE update for Flaming Cliffs 3 owners!"

[@DAPA8484]

Sweet Baby Jesus! I can't wait for the 10th!

[@FloorItDuh]

I believe one of the best things Russian aircraft have going for them is a lot of them are designed to work in conjunction with their SAM/Anti-air networks which essentially forces NATO aircraft out of their main advantage zone of BVR and higher altitude combat into where Russian aircraft tend to do better which is lower altitude work as seen. I would be interested in you getting a bunch of people into a wargame scenario with different scenarios such as penetrating operations into a Russian air defense network playing to the strengths of BLUFOR and OPFOR. It would be cool to see that play out on the tac view. All that being said though there's a real interesting paradigm shift going on and Russian aircraft have made a number of key advancements that are rivaling western 4th generation aircraft so it'll be interesting to see how this increase in capability plays out in the future in wargame scenarios.

[@Anteph88]

Great videos! Both the MIG 29s and the F/A-18c are good dogfighters: Would be interesting to see how they compare when they get close. Couldn't you do another video like this, but without BVR-misiles?

[@mattieskola7050]

This shows that it doesn't matter what you are flying, tactics and skill are more important.... people like to argue what plane is superior but they are all down to pilots who fly them

[@КритикКритикович-ы8ч]

Good kill 👍🏽 awesome video . 😎

[@MotoMarios]

Loved that. Amazing insight into modern aerial combat. A question: Do missiles ever get fooled by countermeasures? A've watched 4 or 5 of your videos and rarely -if ever- have I seen any missile get fooled by chaff or flares.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

they good fooled all the time, you just gotta use the right countermeasure at the right now. will just increase probability theyre not definite. u might do everything perfectly and still get hit.

[@antoniekawa2678]

Great vid as always ;)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thank you much appreciated

[@gavargas22]

For a second I thought you had been hit, but then I realized it’s just the Mig29 smoking like hell

[@DanielLanducciSpotting]

Amazing disintegration at 10:56 haha. Very good, brother!! I hope everything's going well with you! ;) See ya buddy!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks man, everything is awesome. hope ur doing well too brother.

[@matthewbender9152]

Round 2 was money. Good kill.

[@angryginger791]

I really enjoyed this! The skills and tactics of dog fighting have always fascinated me. I've been sim racing in VR for a while now and love it. This just looks like a whole new level of awesome. I think I'm going to have to give it a whirl. Any advice for someone that wants to get started with flight sims? Suggestions for my first HOTAS setup? Keep up the great content!

[@ismailbargach4674]

Nice video as usual. Quick question: during the third fight why Delta didn't shoot any missile when he dived defensive: he was far from the gimbal limit and was really close to you...?

[@johnmarston2616]

@1:02 is this DCS or Mario Kart?

[@gazzmilsom]

Re: The last one. If you have a buddy you can fly trailing each other one can be well behind (10km ish) and above the other. The higher one should get the attention and shift enemy rader up so the lower one can get underneath the radar and engage from below before shots can be fired at the higher aircraft, the higher aircraft has the position to evade missiles and provide radar search for the lower one so they can stay quiet.

[@yeaimgeno1663]

Hey man love the pvp videos keep at it

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I appreciate that man will do.

[@yeaimgeno1663]

I appreciate you too my guy keep it up

[@matthewbender9152]

Nice going low, he had the angle, but you forced him into a bad position, and killed him. I do love these vids man. I miss flight sims.....

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks man, glad u like em, there will be plenty more

[@spreddyreds9408]

Will i see a Tejas vs F16 in the future?

[@vogonjelc]

Remembering old ironhands videos. He puts one to force enemy on defence followed by another 15 seconds later.

[@vahehatch2800]

I wonder whether you could model a scenario with helicopters, say two or three. and generally what could you expect from such a low flying platform.

[@Tamburello_1994]

PFM coming to a MiG near you soon!

[@Telsion]

Thank you for doing more PvP! Am I right in assuming that the MiG-29S and F-18 Hornet are evenly matched? That third round was a great one btw, the tactics there were so simple, yet so effective. Could you do an F-86 vs MiG-15bis PvP fight in the future?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

hi there, from my understanding in the right hands yes both pilots being highly trained its pretty even. Example is when Nato f18 pilots flew against some of the best mig pilots in the word, the germans, post berlin wall. they actually had a 1:1 kill ratio between mig and hornet. and unfortunately, the f86 and the mig15 are among the rare modules I don't have, if I purchase in the future I will deff do some fight here with them. (I will deff buy them its just a matter of time)

[@Telsion]

Hang on, the Germans were the best MiG pilots in the world? Not the Russians? And that's fine, I'll wait patiently for that video :) In the meantime, I'll just keep on enjoying your content!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

well the way the documentary explained it, once Germany joined the west they had parts and money and fuel and managed to train the crap out of their pilots. (they said one of the best lol not THE best thats my mistake) thanks for the support I appreciate the support.

[@matthewbalberchak9510]

There is a channel on KZbin called Aircrew Interviews. It is really great and you should check it out. Anyways, I watched an Interview with a West German pilot that got to fly the Fulcrum and he said that it was much better than West German Phantoms, but the Western tactics and training probably would have made them almost neck and neck.

[@Telsion]

Growling Sidewinder ah, thanks for the elaboration :)

[@jotabe1984]

controls on that fulcrum seems like pretty analog/dated... is one of the first variant of the Mig-29? since Mig29SMT has dual large display windows

[@lamontcranston7422]

Hence the expression "keep your shirt on"!

[@ashsmitty2244]

So addictive to watch. What two aircraft are the closest match in a fight?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

no aircraft are really a match tbh, all are good at different things. have their own advantage/weakness.

[@jfrorn]

Have you tried radar off, IRST only, flying low?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

no, because I'm a noob with the mig (basically anything russian) and didnt know the mig could do that. thank you. I'll deff look into that. im assuming IRST has a much lower range....

[@baginatora]

Rangewise- you're basically blind and have to rely on AWACS calls. But you're much more stealthy in that mode as well.

[@salswq5989]

I have the ai at excellent and his waypoint going to me. But even on excellent, the f14 forexample does not engage me until 20 miles or so. It doesnt shoot a phoenix from lets say 100 km or locks on me until iam very close and can see it flying in front of me. Is there something i have to change in settings so it can engage me earlier?

[@animalanimal7939]

Finally out of that hornet. Well done

[@HappyFlapps]

Question - Why not just fly nap-of-earth at 100 feet or less off the ground? I thought ground clutter made it unlikely for a Fox1 and Fox3 missiles to track you at that height.

[@cmkpspg]

You really DON'T want to use the TWS mode in a Mig-29 OR SU-27, UNLESS, you're up against more than one target and it's an emergency! The reason for this is, the TWS in the Mig's Radar uses Interleaved Radar Mode, which is just a fancy way of saying that it alternates between Medium and low or medium and High-PRF! So look at it this way... The Higher the PRF the higher the Range that the radar can see and lock targets! This is why you'll often get a spam-missile fired at you at maximum range when you're going in a head-on aspect with the A.I. and it's controlling the Mig-29, BUT it serves a VALUABLE PURPOSE! It allows you to put your opponent on the defensive which gives you time BEFORE he can fire to follow up with a shot that WILL most likely kill him! *Although i will say that the F-18 may have a longer-ranged-radar than the F-15C but i doubt it! And all of this info comes from learning 1v1 engagements in DCS against the Mig-29 while flying the F-15C.

[@cmkpspg]

oh!,...AND ONCE YOU SPOT YOUR ADVERSARY...REMEMBER TO CRANK, give yourself time to decide whther you want attack high or down low, or if he fires first you're basically half way in there to an escape vector! *also, i know you've already demonstrated the "F-Pole" Maneuver which is why i'm reminding you to use it in every day fights! Remember Kids!...F-pole is your FRIEND! LOL! (And keep the great videos coming!)

[@MrZockerfreak11]

The 4x R77+2R73 is a western style loadout which nullifies any small advantage the MiG29 has. The R-77 has horrible, horrible range, its comparable to the AIM-120A in performance. I usually take 4x R77 on the outer pylons and one R-27ET+R73 on the inner pylons. Just 77 and ET works aswell. Loading a single R-27ER might work aswell, because you can force the enemy defensive by firing first (ER has higher range than the AMRAAM). I wouldnt use the MiG29 until 10th october PFM+cockpit update anyway because the RWR is currently bugged, so you dont see the distance to an incoming amraam which makes it harder to calculate whether you need to turn cold or not.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Fresh Dumbledore thank you, I was wondering what’s going on with the rwr I thought I was doing something wrong in regards to it. Nice to know it’s a bug.

[@itsmebatman]

Why do you put the R77 on outer and IR missiles on inner pylons? Is it because you don't want missiles under the wings anymore when you enter dogfight?

[@MrZockerfreak11]

Its because of weight. 27ET in the middile and 73 outside would crate weird drag

[@itsmebatman]

And that is modeled in DCS?

[@MrZockerfreak11]

Obviously

[@JackB_Music]

Sweet vid, I wouldn’t mind doing a 1 v 1 sometime? Do you use VR?

[@ilvaporizzatore]

Is the IRST implemented on the mig?

[@brandonj1914]

Alright, I have a few of the things i need rounded up. But how is your games visuals so crisp? Is it maybe because you play in 4k?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

probably the gtx1080 ti ? I have everything maxed out graphics wise.

[@TheSaintArmando]

Is there a way to change the display in the mig29? I find it rather useless to show the AA interface 2 times.

[@gnas1897]

NASA called... they want their supercomputer back.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thunder8 's well they can't have it. I need it for my flight sims that's more important than the Mars rover and man's journey to space.

[@gnas1897]

Hahahahahaha

[@spartan-s013]

great kills, i was just wondering why he couldn't see you, cos you are in the open terrain and he has altitude just like in first engagement

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

probably didnt have his radar pointed down far enough so i managed to slip underneath

[@spartan-s013]

@@GrowlingSidewinder fair enought, btw awsome videos, keep it up, specialy debreathings

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

copy that man thank you

[@samuelbadger4371]

10:55 RIP did he just break the sound barrier? Lol

[@zhenghe5270]

How do I get DCS? Do I need to download it or is it something you can buy at any PC game store. Also what are the minimum computer requirements?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

free download mate, 1 free map, and 2 free airplanes for you to start. not sure about minimum requirements but its free to download so try it and see if it works. www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/

[@zhenghe5270]

Growling Sidewinder Do I get to choose which free plane to get? Because I want the Mirage 2000.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

@@zhenghe5270 no theyre pre set. u get a trainer propeller one, and a su25 ground attack aircraft. (the su25 can actually be a lot of fun when you learn it)

[@nexpro6118]

Just don't get DCS and then become like most players of this "simulator" I really don't want to use that term ugh. Just don't think that you are a pilot just like the real fighter pilots

[@balamcom7092]

The scenery reminds me of Behind Enemy lines movie of 2001.... SAM has been launched... Ahhhhhhhhhh!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

"were being painted......what? shit they fired scoop it" ya love that scene.

[@balamcom7092]

Yep my man

[@balamcom7092]

PvP makes me feel like I am attending a navy fighter weapons school.... With Sidewinder as Jester

[@lw8249]

Love so much the 29 *&*

[@piotrn9450]

this... thing is unbelievable

[@Mrv9019]

Why dont u try mig 21?

[@animalanimal7939]

And is it possible to fly the YF-23?

[@Barney-ic3uy]

Where are these servers? Open beta installed..fly around for what feels like days looking or hunting until bingo arrives...

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

this was a private server, if you want to join a PvP server search growling sidewinder and join the Caucasus open conflict.

[@Barney-ic3uy]

@@GrowlingSidewinder will do. Great vids pal. Super entertaining and strategically educational..👍flight sim education at its best!!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

@@Barney-ic3uy thanks man, glad you found it useful.

[@raphaelvildren7633]

In round three his reckage crashed at supersonic speed😣. I almost feel bad for him Edit = Delta's reckage

[@ahuman2954]

Invite grim reapers too as ur tac view explains pilot skills in an excellent way

[@Rokaize]

muhammad ali The reapers are great. Learned so much from them. They’d be a great guest.

[@ahuman2954]

@@Rokaize getting much better at tactics dogfights just by watching your videos 😊. Bro i have another suggestion for you also , watch jester814 (Arma3) . We would love if you create cinematic videos of close Air support from his missions.

[@nuk3m3vil]

good content!

[@GeorgieWorgiey]

Cool! You guys should be on discord together so you can talk shit while you fight. Would love to see more PvP

[@juxtaposeism]

impressive

[@23Alkaida]

TWS?

[@1992koi]

why he dedn't shot at u?

[@lastperfectman]

I love MiG-29s and MiG29k

[@kenhelmers2603]

Tactics! Good job :)

[@lvthtxusa]

Is it really that easy ?

[@safwanshariq1478]

How many times did he win and how many times did you?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Safwan Shariq there were a couple rounds where we both killed each other and then one where he rammed into the ground. So I removed those so the video wasn’t 40mins long. But the final round was the one u see in the video “round 3” where I kill him cuz he’s using a 1 bar scan on his radar and I manage to sneak under it. (That’s my theory as to why he didn’t see me anyway)

[@safwanshariq1478]

Growling Sidewinder can you do a rematch but with you in the hornet.

[@dhbroussard89]

got to learn how to notch those incoming missiles,,,,

[@sasquatchycowboy5585]

Dose the migraine 29 have a PFM yet?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I dont know man. not sure if they ever did it.

[@sasquatchycowboy5585]

@@GrowlingSidewinder it should be pretty easy to tell.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

even if I've never flown it before? (don't know how it use to be)

[@sasquatchycowboy5585]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Ahh, lol, I remember when the AFM came put on the SU-25t. Man that was a shock. But little things, dose firing a weapon move the center of gravity? Dose the aircraft "feel" like its moving through a fluid. You're used to the pfm, and the AFM. If the MiG-29 is used on the sfm, it would feel very generic to you and like you're not flying an actual airplane. It's hard to describe but it would be noticeable immediately. Like it would feel like you were flying a very limited simulation.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

yes, firing the gun makes the plane shake u can only do short bursts. yes the aircraft feels like its moving thru a fluid, pulling up you can hear the air going over ur wings, u can almost actually feel it. the actual flight model of the mig does feel different from any other plane in the sim. so I think the answer to ur original question was yes.

[@eduardoponce5328]

Mig 31 with vector engine please

[@boyteebah3794]

luck was on your side in round 2

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

very much so

[@schumifan78]

I would rather see head to head set up, 3km separation at mach 1 and rear aspect IR missiles and guns only..

[@DD-bn2mx]

the game should show your hand on that throttle, for it to be more realistic.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

literally working on something like that. will release it soon

[@dr.alamzebkhan9184]

I am waiting for DCS: JF17 Vs JC39 gripen vs F16 Vs tejas. jf17 is not so good with radar, but lets see how the pilot got talent.

[@thanhnguyen-xi8fq]

He was at higher altitude, how could you open the fire first (round 3)? why did not he fire the amrram at you before you did, and keep you busy defending youself instead of comfortably kill him..provided that the F-18 has a superior radar and avionics

[@AggrarFarmer]

Far away from Superior Only F-14 and F-15 / Mig 31 have superior radars.

[@giannisgt28rs]

GG ace!

[@banzaiib]

No ET's? WTF mate? Great video, though.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

soon man, was practicing with r77 for now. I was losing my mig virginity

[@Blind_Hawk]

You've definitely to do that again with the PFM of the MiG-29. Matt Wagner said it's in testig.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

damn they haven't dropped that yet? I thought thats what I was flying

[@Blind_Hawk]

Nope the actual FM is an AFM.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

any word on when?

[@GenericAmerican1]

"on 10 October we will release the updated MiG-29 Fulcrum for Flaming Cliffs 3! This will include a Professional Flight Model (PFM), updated cockpit, and several new cockpit system functions. "

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

sweet thanks for that update

[@jercki72]

cool pvp dude

[@AliceDerg]

with that first engagement, I see what you're trying to do, but you're flying straight at the missile for way too long. It's probably better to crank right and give the missile a nice huge offset to chase and hold that for about 5 seconds (which seems like forever, really just gotta wait for it), and THEN turn back in to fire a missile and keep on turning to crank off to the opposite side just as much. After holding that for a little, then you can do what you need to do. But when you get in close, you really should be looking at either breaking defensive or shooting enough missiles to force him to act. *Edit* Also, I'd say that you going defensive wasn't defensive enough. You more or less did exactly what you did with the first missile, which is why you ate it. And then what he did for the 2nd engagement with going vertical to turn around to try to find you when he could've used the hills to try to do something is... odd. 3rd engagement he really just set himself up for failure.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

ya 2nd one I think he turns around cuz he doesnt know how far back I am. i''m sure if he knew I was that close he would have nosed down and tried to hide.

[@ahuman2954]

I think on pvp u should b playing 3 rounds ..1st with long range amram 9 metc 2 round wt guns only 3 with sidewinder nd guns