DCUO: Do Skill Points Matter for DPS?

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ObsidianChillDCUO

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Do skill points really matter when dpsing in DCUO? Let's take a closer look at the numbers as this is always a hot topic in the game with the influx of players using CR Skipped characters that only start out with 80-90sp and then players are left to compare themselves against veterans with 800+ sp. Enjoy
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@artificialintelligence0101
@artificialintelligence0101 Жыл бұрын
This is excellent news for new players since they'll never get the opportunity to do all the feats anyway. The chances of finding a raid/alert group that knows how to do feats is damn near impossible unless you're grandfathered into an OG league or something.
@czotheghostgmail
@czotheghostgmail Жыл бұрын
Not the league I'm in we do it all especially for the feats
@youngreckless97
@youngreckless97 Жыл бұрын
@@czotheghostgmail right. The league that YOU are in.
@SpectralGloom
@SpectralGloom 4 ай бұрын
Telling people to be suboptimal and just pay to win is excellent news? Nah. We don't need more new players that just buy stats and can't play for shit. Do you realize how big 11% is in a number based rng system? It's gigantic. It's like saying oh I'm not gonna wear some gear at all.
@strub3868
@strub3868 4 ай бұрын
@@SpectralGloom facts
@micahnauman3579
@micahnauman3579 Жыл бұрын
Thats one of the reasons why I stop playing when feats became attached to time capsules. I started noticing the guys with the most money we’re getting skill points and the gaps between players who didn’t have it in their skill points. I’ve never came back because of the massive difference in skill points between where I was an endgame players. But now that I know that it’s not that big of a deal and it’s all around artifacts, I might be enticed to come back and start playing again yes it’s not fair to those who have grind it out to get these feats. Honestly, DC should just get rid of skill points altogether.
@leatherDarkhorse
@leatherDarkhorse 8 ай бұрын
My suggestion cr = passive skill point, feats are for using allocate active. Much more easy to balance the game now
@brandenwilson4378
@brandenwilson4378 Жыл бұрын
So they essentially undid what they fixed years ago. BRILLIANT!
@Mercurii1
@Mercurii1 Жыл бұрын
I am new and I met someone who basically told me the same thing and I didn’t want to believe him until I checked for myself and I am glad I did because I was about to start wasting time grinding skill points. Thank you very much!
@SpectralGloom
@SpectralGloom 4 ай бұрын
He's stating a very wrong opinion. 11% loss is huge in any mmorpg. He's almost always giving bad advice and he prone believe it vecayse they haven't actually tested themselves anything he says against other avenues.
@markarmstrong5096
@markarmstrong5096 Жыл бұрын
ive said that skill points are for special roles i.e battle tank, buff troll, etc... Or dps comping (which i am not a fan of but to each their own). Sp's also help to use less armories. And your absolutely right about prec and health. Good video. New players needed to understand this.
@Imformless
@Imformless Жыл бұрын
Keep posting like this constantly this makes my day everytime i see u ❤
@ObsidianChill
@ObsidianChill Жыл бұрын
thanks
@talenpauls3192
@talenpauls3192 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. 😁 arts and good load out what makes you strong.
@demonocusmetalocus3558
@demonocusmetalocus3558 Жыл бұрын
1 thing i noticed is with the might and power stat if you have nothing in it you run out of power a lot more than if you have that stat maxed or close to maxed.
@SpinningRevolver-4
@SpinningRevolver-4 Ай бұрын
Might and power never ran out on mines unless u built prec usually is the one fastest power ran out.
@DELIGHTFULMOVIES
@DELIGHTFULMOVIES Жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I had tried to start a character on another server. Looking at the amount of skill points now and how much people are requiring to run content with them now and the state of the game it's really hard on new players. With the stat squish and small community, getting into lower raids is easier, but actually getting feats from them is very difficult/nigh impossible unless you have a set group to run with...but good luck finding that. It would take months/years to catch up to end game players which puts a lot of players off. Making feats easier to get and more impactful would help the community as a whole, but at the moment, buying artefacts is one of the only option available to get close. :(
@mariano3113
@mariano3113 Жыл бұрын
Feats should be easier to get without a Stat Clamp...allowing easier 'solo' feat collecting in older content. Devs definitely went the other way there ...
@YuhPaul
@YuhPaul Жыл бұрын
Same as well. I attempted to make a new toon & looking at the current skill points & feats needed, it would take ages and might scare new players to get in the game since almost all the older content is dead or fully ignored
@Daj2009
@Daj2009 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this message , and I hear and am moving into the right directions. 😀
@ZeeDahktah
@ZeeDahktah Жыл бұрын
This is good for my alt account. Why I have an alt account? I got problems…lol! But there’s no way I have the time to acquire the SP I currently have on my PS account on my PC account. I have a day job, a social life, and responsibilities. Lol! As always, good info. Your spreadsheets are real and useful data.
@Raven078
@Raven078 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, as always. Thank you so much for sharing! 🤘
@ObsidianChill
@ObsidianChill Жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@EloyCanto
@EloyCanto Жыл бұрын
10% drop on damage is way too much when you are doing solo content or running with weak people, something that happens a lot on random alerts, i recently respected my characters because i bought loadouts so i can have pure dps and pure role, and the difference is abysmal, and i am the kind of player who gives sp to health dom and rest even on dps because i do tons of solo content and need to survive whitout any healer, so i can see the numbers, but in practice is a different story. To put it on perspective, My main does the higest damage but has heat vission on 140 and the other 2 arts on 120, my alt has all the arts on 80 buti bought replay badges to grab the sp points i farmed on my main and has about 20 to 30% less damage than my main. One thing i totally agree is that chasing SP only is stupid, a dude asked in the forums how many SP needed, and i told him that Stats are really the number to watch and that stats can be obtained by several sources, so on that i do agree with you, get the SP you can whitout being obsess with feats, and use the other sources, arts, augs, allys, to compensate, i mean that is the real meaning of a balanced character, something that use many sources in order to get the level, not just one.
@eminencedcuo217
@eminencedcuo217 Жыл бұрын
Bro this guy is insane, he wants us struggling through content.
@LawTheStryker
@LawTheStryker Жыл бұрын
I would advocate more for SP if some of them weren't behind a paywall. Not every active player is an active member but they put in their time still. I think people should just come up however they want and stop being toxic lol.
@6739673937664
@6739673937664 2 ай бұрын
Be cool if they made it so you only need like 200 sp to be max, but make special cosmetics for those who go over the 200sp cap that way ppl who have all those sp who worked for them can instantly get the cool gear/cosmetics and pol who want the cosmetics can work towards them
@kalladerexperimentx983
@kalladerexperimentx983 Жыл бұрын
ObsidianChillDCUO work damn hard to give us all those stats meanwhile all other just report the latest news that everyone can read in 2 sec when open client...
@ObsidianChill
@ObsidianChill Жыл бұрын
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@Icarus_26
@Icarus_26 Жыл бұрын
Skill/knowledge>artifacts>sp
@ObsidianChill
@ObsidianChill Жыл бұрын
knowledge usually leads to skill, but still correct assessment :)
@Tahs_TV
@Tahs_TV Жыл бұрын
There shouldn’t be a 355 cap on the final column in sp. If you can could keep building your power tree via sp that would help.
@bobbyhands7589
@bobbyhands7589 Жыл бұрын
A dead dps does no damage, survivability is more important to me
@DECEPTICONUK
@DECEPTICONUK Жыл бұрын
Great vid bro
@Hoggwash1839
@Hoggwash1839 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I am new, about 3wks. Did the skip. Trying to do feats on episodes and I keep hitting brick walls. They have removed the ability to do needed content unless you get lucky in omnibus.
@christiankufner3906
@christiankufner3906 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for that video. Great.
@Geoforcee100
@Geoforcee100 Жыл бұрын
even before watching the video SUPPORT ROLES : YES IT DOES, FOR ELITE PLUS CONTENT 100% EVERY STAT COUNTS!
@kriscole8648
@kriscole8648 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video thanks
@TheBmills415
@TheBmills415 Жыл бұрын
This is why amulet with berserk mod is so effective. My celes toon jumps 10k to 25k might. My atomic it jumps 10k to 35k might because of aura addition. The lower my health goes the higher the might and if I get that amulet stack bonus it's nutz.
@ObsidianChill
@ObsidianChill Жыл бұрын
yup definitely, amulet can be super effective
@TheBmills415
@TheBmills415 Жыл бұрын
@@ObsidianChill My celes runs grim and amazatrix with robot. Not sure if my might buffs my pets but it sure feels that way. My pet arts at 120 and they hitting hard on this amulet setup. Amulet at 160
@isthisnametaken9965
@isthisnametaken9965 Жыл бұрын
That’s why I keep saying as long as you have 250 sp you good. Then again collecting styles and doing playthroughs of stuff you’ll get a lot of sp unless you purposefully go against very simple feats
@invierteconadrian
@invierteconadrian Жыл бұрын
Ive always said SP are overrated
@James.Sunderland
@James.Sunderland Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the stats on health next to see if it's even worth maxing that when you could put it in dominance and vitalization instead. 10:10 But here, why would you max health if at 100 you don't get percentage buffs anymore? Wouldn't you rather stack it into a third category after finishing might then health to 100?
@ObsidianChill
@ObsidianChill Жыл бұрын
are you speaking as a dps or as a tank?
@James.Sunderland
@James.Sunderland Жыл бұрын
@@ObsidianChill dps
@joshuahahlbohm3992
@joshuahahlbohm3992 Жыл бұрын
I think people are talking about in a PVP battle they have no chance of winning if someone has that much higher skill points
@Krazor161
@Krazor161 Жыл бұрын
I stopped playing when I realized how strong my fresh alt was with lvl 80 arts and 70 sp. mid game to end game (for me) was just grinding sp and the sp only matters when, example: both dps players have equal arts, and are racing for top dmg, (for me) when it got to that lvl of play, no content was too difficult and it was just being competitive…. So sp not worth the grind and I didn’t see the point of mid or late game
@MrPs3tube
@MrPs3tube Жыл бұрын
Please share this video with the devs… it’s ridiculous
@slowmojo9355
@slowmojo9355 Жыл бұрын
Working as intended, the Devs ain't doing nothing to Skill Points.... It would discourage new players from playing.
@mr.o2291
@mr.o2291 Жыл бұрын
We should be able to buy skill points. Just started playing again and I’m not about to go from 172 sp to 800. It’s already pay to win anyway
@blackningeen
@blackningeen Жыл бұрын
I have 475 with 3 lvl 160 arts even if it’s a 5% difference in damage we’re I’ll be at 76mil and the next dps be at 23 mil with with 200 arts in A alert still speaks volumes , might wanna get them skill points up my boi
@ObsidianChill
@ObsidianChill Жыл бұрын
if the other dps has 200's and you have 160's that 200 art dps still needs to have a brain or there wouldn't be a difference at all
@blackningeen
@blackningeen Жыл бұрын
@@ObsidianChill lol your right about that
@magusxxx
@magusxxx Жыл бұрын
For me, getting skill points is the satisfaction that I will never have to ever do certain content ever again.
@tommilsom7123
@tommilsom7123 5 ай бұрын
hes right, i only have 150 skill points as for my league members, they have like 400 to 600 skill points and i out DPS them by atleast 40 to 50 mil per elite raid, my highest was 80 mil above them, so skill points aint that important
@playboybrendo103
@playboybrendo103 2 ай бұрын
What’s your n there art lvls
@tommilsom7123
@tommilsom7123 2 ай бұрын
@@playboybrendo103 at the time only one was 120 and the rest was like 80, now that time has past, like 2 months, everyone i play with have grown real fast
@125SonGoku
@125SonGoku Жыл бұрын
My question is do 200 Artifacts really matter that much more than 160 Artifacts? Most arts seem to have the majority of their bonuses and function at 160 and are giving the bulk of their main percents and performance. Ranking them up to 200 only seems to increase their buffs slightly and seems like just the cherry on top. As far as gradual grinding or to get most bang for the buck wouldn’t it be most ideal to have several 160 arts and swap them for their effects as opposed to focusing on few 200 arts?
@ObsidianChill
@ObsidianChill Жыл бұрын
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@125SonGoku
@125SonGoku Жыл бұрын
Dang, from that it looks like 120 to 160 is small return on most. But hitting 200 does give bigger results than I’d thought. Feels even more Pay2Win when you see the numbers side by side. Would suck to invest in 200 arts only to replace them when better ones come out.
@notanotherswordreviewchann4901
@notanotherswordreviewchann4901 10 ай бұрын
Where skill points really shine is way old content. Even with the cr drop those sp really help burning those low end bosses and adds.
@abyssabyss7203
@abyssabyss7203 Жыл бұрын
Lol correct, as its always been (and should be). W/same setup (i.e. arts), SP is a minimal difference. Its skill. New players dont suck an have a hard time “catching up” because of SP, its cause they are new an dont know what they are doing. Get over the learning curve (which i assure everyone is VERY minimal), u just need arts an maybe allies an ur golden lol
@letsplaysomthing3799
@letsplaysomthing3799 Жыл бұрын
i think they must remove SP and left just gear score and atifacts
@leatherDarkhorse
@leatherDarkhorse Ай бұрын
My suggestion cr = passive, problem solved
@Dzantro
@Dzantro Жыл бұрын
I see the issue, but people have spent real money on artifacts. If they can find a way to make skill points greater than or equal to artifacts without nerfing artifacts then it'll be great. Artifacts help new players who want to invest in the game and get to the current episode effectively. Though, they do cost money and a lot of money if that. It's a hard hole to dig out of honestly.
@ObsidianChill
@ObsidianChill Жыл бұрын
they could take away the base stats on the artifacts but keep all the bonuses. In the video moving from 100-200sp was 1300 might where simply 1 200 rank solar amplifier is a base 1785 might increase, not including its 5% might bonus
@Dzantro
@Dzantro Жыл бұрын
@@ObsidianChill Ahh true. I wonder what they’ll do. If they do anything at all anyways.
@theanunakian64
@theanunakian64 Жыл бұрын
The longer u stay in a fight the more dps.
@theversonic2223
@theversonic2223 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think the form of the test is accurate to reality, I mean you are only focusing on the might, but sp also gives power and health, and the biggest issue imo, you are testing on sparrings, where you get full power constantly, in a raid or alert you don’t get that power recharge, and if you can’t use powers you can’t do damage, same with health, a 10k/20k increase could save you (e.g it’s one more tick of lava dmg in NUe, that gives the healer time to save you)
@ObsidianChill
@ObsidianChill Жыл бұрын
power consumption is a moot point. You have White Gear mods, you have generator mods, you have cyborg allies, you even have energy soders plus alot of single target might rotations are channeled based anyways and hardly use any power. Why would you be standing in the lava in NUe to where you'd take damage? If players want to be dumb and intentionally take damage then 340sp in health isn't going to save them. What are you talking about you wouldn't get power regen in raids? are you not running raids with controllers?
@Christian102XD
@Christian102XD Жыл бұрын
Can you do a prec version just to see if the results are similar?
@ObsidianChill
@ObsidianChill Жыл бұрын
prec scales even better than might does so I have no reason to suspect anything would be different in terms of sp vs arts
@dcuoshankjones3587
@dcuoshankjones3587 Жыл бұрын
"Only" dropped 11% dmg? Thats 2 stacked compound omegas... get your sp up people.
@shaquilleT
@shaquilleT Жыл бұрын
I know I'm late finding this video but I'm about 217 sp spent should I stop getting more points and focus on artifacts then?🤔
@dcuoffendinghabits7949
@dcuoffendinghabits7949 Жыл бұрын
Do this video for heal/tank/troll
@derekwilhelm1555
@derekwilhelm1555 Жыл бұрын
Wow ok this is very surprising
@CelticRuneSinger
@CelticRuneSinger 3 ай бұрын
He doesnt know what he is saying
@gabrielct8
@gabrielct8 Жыл бұрын
Arts>>>>SP
@TheBmills415
@TheBmills415 Жыл бұрын
Yep. Only die hard sp bigots sweat sp
@Guttex
@Guttex Жыл бұрын
Hmmm, why you so suprised. They for longer time are focusing more on things that make them money, and since players sp dont give them money, and artifacts does, then no wonder that they make pay2win and artifacts/allies matter more then players skill points.
@shawnanderson3062
@shawnanderson3062 Жыл бұрын
You broke my heat. I know arts are the sh!!, but i thought sp meant more than 11%. Although its still 11% better. What about when those stat merge? My extra health(after might) ahnd arts like tetra using health% turned into might? for when you have 700sp what do you do with it? thanks and haveagood1
@ObsidianChill
@ObsidianChill Жыл бұрын
For DPS the extra sp are just for prec for extra weapon tap damage (if you are might and vice versa for prec dps using might abilities) and health for survivability. Its more a luxury than anything. Support roles at least can take advantage of multiple skill trees. This game puts alot of feats behind time capsules etc where I would rather spend money leveling arts then worrying about spending money on TC's
@shawnanderson3062
@shawnanderson3062 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for all your testing. Very appreciated@@ObsidianChill
@odinofasgard
@odinofasgard Жыл бұрын
Skill points SHOULD matter. Clearly, they really don't. That's completely ridiculous. It really is all about $$$$ Artifacts. That's really crappy. Feats actually doing something was one of the things I really liked about this game. And they don't anymore. Ugh. I was right to be so opposed to the Stat Revamp. I'm currently watching the last 9 months of your videos over the last few days. That's more time than I've spent playing the game in the last year.
@frth5141
@frth5141 Жыл бұрын
Im tryin to 4v4 obsidian one of these days.
@MostCoolestName
@MostCoolestName Жыл бұрын
hey semi noob here, is quislet better than grimorium?
@ObsidianChill
@ObsidianChill Жыл бұрын
quislet is better yes.
@MostCoolestName
@MostCoolestName Жыл бұрын
@@ObsidianChill ty
@ronniejacksonjr5607
@ronniejacksonjr5607 3 ай бұрын
So skill points in dcuo are obsolete.
@MrSraluch
@MrSraluch Жыл бұрын
I was saying about it like 1 year ago each time i make post at forum Mepps baning me so good luck nothing gona change in this game. So why people so horny to get time capsules feats ? becouse they dont know SP dosnt matter ! Devs not gona change it .
@BaithNa
@BaithNa Жыл бұрын
I've grinded SP for the past decade and it's a horrible waste of time. My toons with little SP do great damage while the ones I grinded SP do only slightly better. They should just make gear the deciding factor and make arts/SP an insignificant factor for DPS and role play. Good MMOs don't rely on tedious grinds or borrowed power to keep.players playing. Just another reason for a DCUO2 without any of this nonsense.
@Stizzfoshizz
@Stizzfoshizz Жыл бұрын
What “good” mmo doesn’t have tedious grinds?
@slowmojo9355
@slowmojo9355 Жыл бұрын
@@Stizzfoshizz Right🤣🤣.... People just talking out of their A$$.. its and MMO theres always a grind
@amusedjester
@amusedjester Жыл бұрын
Aaaand this is what dcuo meant by alternative progression; buy your arts and allies and you won't have to go through SPs, bwahahaha. Brilliant!
@tinodadzz6932
@tinodadzz6932 Жыл бұрын
This is very sad. This is the main reason why this game is dying. No one logs in anymore to grind for feats, ppl don’t need to spend money on capsule styles for their feat. There is no need for a subscription. Leagues are dyin because farming feats is no longer important. Ppl don’t even need elite gear they can just spam for normal gear then log off and not come back til next dlc. Ppl selling their accounts w 700 sp left and right
@yt-itzluckygamer8537
@yt-itzluckygamer8537 Жыл бұрын
First one
@devonnelson3929
@devonnelson3929 Жыл бұрын
This game is 100% pay to win now. Not only do you need to pay if you want to be one of the players that does elites and stuff you need to pay literally hundreds of dollars to get all everything you'll need.
@Stizzfoshizz
@Stizzfoshizz Жыл бұрын
You don’t “need” to pay anything.
@devonnelson3929
@devonnelson3929 Жыл бұрын
@@Stizzfoshizz if you read the comment it says "you need to pay if you want to be one of the players that does elites" cause I can tell you right now at a player since month one of the launch I 100% would not allow people in my elite raid without good artifacts. And unless youve spent months leveling them then you paid a lot of money ontop of the fact you have like a 5% chance to upgrade it if you don't spend 5$ to make it 100% so if you don't pay the 5$ you'll definitely not level that up and it'll probably take you a year or two to get a artifact the legit way. Sure I didn't say you couldn't play the game without money but I've been playing over 10+years I've become one of the people who always does the hard raids and feats it's what I like about the game but now I can't do them unless I want to spend money on the DLCs that come out every month now and replay everything.
@Stizzfoshizz
@Stizzfoshizz Жыл бұрын
@@devonnelson3929 I think most feel like they need to spend because the game isn’t enjoyable enough to entice people to log in for the ridiculous amount of time needed to get the resources to level arts for free. Because I definitely agree, the artifact system is disgusting. Leveling them for free is possible, but definitely a chore and can take a really long time if you haven’t already put years into the game and have the resources to speed up the process. But it doesn’t take long at all to get arts to 120, even without a double xp week. Ive had probably hundreds of successful zero wipe elite runs with healers and tanks that have sub 120 arts. Takes a bit longer for sure, but not so much that it was annoying. If nobody is being stupid and wiping the group then I’ll put up with lower damage lol
@tytan233
@tytan233 Жыл бұрын
Tuska
@LosoWorld
@LosoWorld Жыл бұрын
This is why its so many TRASH players on the server niw smh Long Live the OP OG players
@MrHapkido72
@MrHapkido72 Жыл бұрын
Video seems a little disingenuous. Sure it's only a few million difference for a few second parser but that few million becomes much more over the length of time for a raid or alert.
@ObsidianChill
@ObsidianChill Жыл бұрын
The sample size here is 5min of non-stop dps. That few million can also be made up using buff soders, trinket pet roation, ally rotation. There are plenty of factors that go into dpsing. This is to show skill points matters the least of that when you can simply buy arts/Allie’s/trinkets etc where you can’t just grind 500sp in a few weeks
@bretthansen8166
@bretthansen8166 Жыл бұрын
😂🤦🏼‍♂️
@averythompkins3682
@averythompkins3682 Жыл бұрын
GOD loves you enough to send HIS only SON to save you and if you repent and turn from your sins and be baptized in THE NAME OF THE FATHER, THE SON and THE HOLY SPIRIT. ((if you haven't )
@orthatsright8837
@orthatsright8837 Жыл бұрын
Amen ❤
@oldcitypicker
@oldcitypicker Жыл бұрын
“Skill points don’t matter for dps” … “0 skill points im losing 25k might” 😐
@crowngaming3277
@crowngaming3277 Жыл бұрын
The fact that skill points don't matter and I've been grinding them since 2011 really bothers me and it's ruining the game. A noon has NO RIGHT being on the same level as a 10 plus year premium member..
@toohottohandle429
@toohottohandle429 Жыл бұрын
Skill points does mean something it means u achieved your goal so. Yea it still does
@LoudMusic781
@LoudMusic781 Жыл бұрын
Yeooo that's crazy. Thanks for this video. As for a DPS it's not that serious to go crazy on skill points. I'm legit speech-less..... All that work for skill points and just to have it not mean as such as it did before. Kind of sad. As for a controller, tank and healer it probably of course helps. But this is wild for a dps. Anyhow thanks for clearing this up.
@drathmor1401
@drathmor1401 Жыл бұрын
great testing as always, and totally agree you only need about 170 for your role and you will be ok as all you really need is that 100 in primary for the 10% and the 60 for the crits, and you're good.. heck that's how most of us hybrid build, by throwing 100 in what ever other stats we need for that 10% and most of the time that's all the extra you need to make it more viable the state of the game is sad were those arts are so essential now. giving us alternate ways to play is nice but the fact that they are almost required now just bugs me
@kfkcnonyohoe
@kfkcnonyohoe Жыл бұрын
what ab healing ?
@TheBmills415
@TheBmills415 Жыл бұрын
Arts are cash grabs sp is also but not as much as new arts every 4 months
@TheBmills415
@TheBmills415 Жыл бұрын
@@kfkcnonyohoe 100 to 150 in restoration and you're good to go
@drathmor1401
@drathmor1401 Жыл бұрын
@@kfkcnonyohoe your biggest stat boost from SP is still going to come from getting at least 100 into resto and the 60 in healing crit and crit magnitude. you can be a little under geared as a healer and still do fairly well. but gear is the largest stat gain but with sp at least get to that 170 mark or 190 as its also helpful to dump 20 in dom for shields as 20 is the sweet spot of max gain for the least amount of SP
@Erased-_
@Erased-_ Жыл бұрын
@@drathmor1401yea you don’t run elite fasho lmao
@BeyondEllisBeck
@BeyondEllisBeck Жыл бұрын
I already knew this. The devs made artifacts solely because the majority of their player base left after the discontinued support of the PS3 and the stats revamp. They say it's for giving us different play styles but that's all bullshit. It was a way for them to make profit and stay afloat after the massive amount of players going a-wall. I told them from jump that the revamp was a mistake and was going to make them lose a good portion of veteran players. They didn't listen and now look at it. You have people who only started playing the game after the revamp on the forums defending artifacts and allies thinking everything is fine and dandy but it's far from it. Fuck what this game has become! I'd take revamp era over what we have now any day.
@marianosantiniello2213
@marianosantiniello2213 10 ай бұрын
You mean the era when the DPS were so powerful that roles were becoming less and less needed in content? Delusional. Revamp was to balance the game as well. It was all out of whack. I have scoreboard pics from before revamp and the DPS were way too powerful. This is an mmo, not a fighting game. You didn't understand the point of the revamp clearly.
@gorans007
@gorans007 Жыл бұрын
Can you explain more about this for support roles?
@marianosantiniello2213
@marianosantiniello2213 10 ай бұрын
That's not what dpsuo does. It matters far more for support roles. Artificats, augments and allies matter quite a bit as well.
@ariesrose5846
@ariesrose5846 Жыл бұрын
I think sp for dps could matter more if they changed the crit chance and crit damage traits to further increase those stats. If players could push their crit chance to lets say 70% with 500-600ish sp or more or a dph build increasing their crit damage it would feel like the skill point you gained are more impactful to dps roles.
@jamesoaks1120
@jamesoaks1120 Жыл бұрын
Man i havent played since 2017, whenever starro was originally launched, but tbh last raid i remember running when it was new day 1 was Unholy Matramony, played from late 2012 until whenever UM dropped because basically SP didnt matter back then, i left with like 320-370sp i think, i think 400-415 was max SP max then or 380 was, so would you honestly recommend coming back to DCUO?? Because just from this video SP only really matters for support roles, also i hear/read dps is now all about having things called artifacts.
@surrealneo
@surrealneo Жыл бұрын
Just yesterday I watched a conversation ingame about skill points and how important they are.. Crazy when the percentage difference based solely on points isn't really that great of a gap. Outside of special needs conditions and wanting to max out yours points, just to play and have fun!? Is fun apart of gaming anymore? For me it's what keeps me going, once it becomes work or a chore to do, I'm out. I play a "Game" that is both "fun" and challenging. - Peace-
@surrealneo
@surrealneo 11 ай бұрын
I couldn't have said it any better.👍🏽
@Shadow497
@Shadow497 Жыл бұрын
This is why I'm honestly an advocate for nerfing arts or at least the % buff it gives you. It makes those that spent hours. Days. Years grinding for sp kinda pointless. Yeah I know it's un popular but I'd like my hard work and others to be rewarded not just have someone be able to pay for what I worked hard to get to achieve.
@kfkcnonyohoe
@kfkcnonyohoe Жыл бұрын
cry
@MrMack49
@MrMack49 Жыл бұрын
@@kfkcnonyohoe eat a d🥒k
@troylawson1902
@troylawson1902 Жыл бұрын
You still need SP for support roles however that makes a difference
@Shadow497
@Shadow497 Жыл бұрын
@@troylawson1902 okay so a new player can pay for arts and be just as good as dpsing but not as good as a support role.. still the fact that they can be as good at anything as someone that has spent years grinding is sad. If they want to keep the buff arts give that's fine. Just make the value of sp more.
@grim681
@grim681 Жыл бұрын
People who pay support the game though. Nerfing people who invest is not going to help in the least.
@zmstar3186
@zmstar3186 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the testing as normal, I am just coming back and you make a small update video for water DPS/healing rotation,arts. Just looking for something more current. Thanks
@regancollins1465
@regancollins1465 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like other games, diminishing return
@Dan-fv5nq
@Dan-fv5nq Жыл бұрын
Thanks for proving yet again that this game is broken AF; continuing to lose motivation to play this damn game.
@leatherDarkhorse
@leatherDarkhorse 8 ай бұрын
My personal opionion: make the feat = active skill point and cr become passive skill point. So nobody could just over power or unde power and the weird level clamp cry babies causing newer player less disireable to play the game.
@brettdickey6566
@brettdickey6566 Жыл бұрын
sp's is such a slow grind it just burns me out. that plus idc to do elite's and i would like to someday but alot of ppl gate them out to higher sp people. they need to do somthing with sp's more than artifacts
@andrewgillespie7430
@andrewgillespie7430 Жыл бұрын
What is even good sp at this point I'm at 480ish and the increase isn't that crazy. Does prec get better with more sp?
@elementalgolem5498
@elementalgolem5498 9 ай бұрын
yeah for tank SP is kinda CRITICAL to sucess hehe you get about 30-40% tankier, if not more. which matters because you cant heal a oneshot tank
@bmcpherson8328
@bmcpherson8328 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you. I will never spend another penny in this game. Beta player, quit in 2016, came back for a year subscription last year to see what’s new. been a way for a year, reinstalled a week ago for the hell of it and anniversary event access. Not particularly meaningful, but noticed that Chris Cao is at WOTC…. WOTC OGL news lately? 🤔🙃 all the acquisitions over the years… Why it was bought without seeing what the base of the game is made of, and how inherently unable to make it better… they still bought it to sell it while adding extra systems. Sad for anyone who doesn’t know it’s history. The game has become a bitcoin or NFT. 😏
@boepressha8859
@boepressha8859 Жыл бұрын
Wow and I’m returning 🤦🏽‍♂️ tysm for these vids💪🏽so just do collection with detectors
@County425
@County425 Жыл бұрын
I recently restarted as I was on PS and now on PC. My electricity DPS is keeping up, and sometimes out performing, other DPS that have more SP and even more points in their arts and augs. There's also a little bit of luck and reaction that goes into it. If you're not getting smoked by stuns and boxed, or you can breakout almost instantly and start your rotation up, then you can keep up with people a bit better than may not be as fast or paying attention as much. A lot of small factors can contribute to DPS.
@juskobe7235
@juskobe7235 Жыл бұрын
everytime i watch yo vids i get sad lmao this game suppose to be so much further and better its crazy they have the base of a crazy game but just lazy Chinese devs
@ObsidianChill
@ObsidianChill Жыл бұрын
yea I miss the time where the only thing that impacted your dps was your gear mods and some white mods lol. All these arts and allies have completely diluted the game and makes players choose between competing or not.
@troylawson1902
@troylawson1902 Жыл бұрын
This also explains why I use to see some folks fighting when guy 1 has like 100 SP but max rank arts and guy 2 has 500sp and max arts but loses in damage to guy 1 because his rotation was just better 🤭🤭 interesting indeed.
@fishantrope6267
@fishantrope6267 Жыл бұрын
Just good gameplay 😉😜
@SpectralGloom
@SpectralGloom 4 ай бұрын
11% damage loss/ increase is actually huge. That's very much a wrong statement.
@ObsidianChill
@ObsidianChill 4 ай бұрын
for the amount of time it would take a player to go from 0-340sp or the amount of money it would take to buy time capsule styles, that 11% is not huge whatsoever
@SpectralGloom
@SpectralGloom 4 ай бұрын
@ObsidianChill what amount of time? The free time we have after hitting end game content and being loot locked? Plenty of time to get skill points and have better stats.
@ObsidianChill
@ObsidianChill 4 ай бұрын
@@SpectralGloom the amount of time it would take you to get 200+ SP naturally, you would already have earned enough nth metal to level your artifacts high enough to nearly double the 11% you are concerned that is actually huge.
@DangerouslyActive
@DangerouslyActive Жыл бұрын
Which Proves, dcuo is currently pay to play, pay to win.... I still respect the Sp grind.
@hello99785
@hello99785 Жыл бұрын
Bro the cash is there a way too open it if i not member my limit is 50k 😢😢 Because i will not spend single dollar on the game currency difference to high for me
@smokewagon8363
@smokewagon8363 Жыл бұрын
I'm at 726 sp with almost 240k might. Someone with no sp isn't going to beat me. Period.
@LucianoLopesLima
@LucianoLopesLima Жыл бұрын
DCUO is 100% a Pay-To-Win game!
@AmorphisBob
@AmorphisBob Жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder if it'd make more sense to put all those points into health if you're like me and die alot. A dead DPS does zero damage after all.
@gmaster1795
@gmaster1795 Жыл бұрын
I knew this just based on pvp imagine someone with 100 or less sp come and smack someone with 700+ sp smh it happens more often than you know lol
@Jason-pj9pb
@Jason-pj9pb Жыл бұрын
At what point should you start filling in another circle in the loadout? I thought I recall after a certain amount of skill points in a certain circle, diminishing returns began to happen...
@kerronsinkia6979
@kerronsinkia6979 Жыл бұрын
Yh but low arts still doing more damage than max arts sometimes which is bs literally.
@JW-pc8gx
@JW-pc8gx Жыл бұрын
How much sp would you need in general for both roles such as tank and dps?
@ronaldtorian5345
@ronaldtorian5345 Жыл бұрын
Omg thank God you still play , serious question cause I'm just coming back, what's the name of the gear you can buy in the auction to raise your CR ?
@ObsidianChill
@ObsidianChill Жыл бұрын
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