DCUO: Massive Marketplace Change to DCUO

[@wuatarrel]

dcuo gone beyond pay to win, now its pay to not play

[@starrequiem6053]

💀💀💀

[@TBGEver]

On God 😂

[@puzzledhypnoshroom1004]

I never thought they’d EVER do this. But I already quit and it’s definitely staying like that now. I already hated the idea of the episode and now this shit lol. Yea I’m not touching DC

[@banggoman7371]

You mean not to pay to not to win 😂

[@therealNOD2547]

i mean it not even pay to win because you can still get the stuff without paying

[@cilobana3250]

It’s quite obvious they are milking this game for what it’s worth whilst they can. Obviously a justifiable business decision, just don’t let them profit at the expense of you guys. Don’t buy shit from this game anymore people, you are what makes the game.

[@HiHi-yk1mv]

That’s why the new art so overpowered

[@jailbreakmaker003]

And all that profit doesn’t even go back into DC. They funnel it to EverQuest for some reason. It’d be a different story if the money DC players spent went back into DC to better it. But they’re just paying the bills and anything left is sent elsewhere. It’s mind boggling that the ceo wanted to see this game last another 10 years and within a year of saying that it has plummeted to an all time low. The game requires zero skill anymore. You can just buy your artifact XP. You can buy stabilizers to get feat points. And now you can buy episode currency. Next will be renown and it’s over. You could just log in day one drop all that money abs be done within an hour maybe? And again al l that money you just dropped isn’t even going back into the game you payed al l that into. Disgusting. I haven’t subbed in over a year ans don’t miss it. I usually only bought replays but even now I’m reconsidering it.

[@hussleforlove7179]

Yet some of these retards do

[@kokainderhund]

game is boring af now, no reason to spend on it, every episode is the same shit just different eye candy

[@jailbreakmaker003]

@@kokainderhund the o Lu rewl thing to give credit to is the maps. Open world is reused but the Reid’s/alerts as if recent have been quite good looking. Content wise it’s as bland and boring as boiled chicken

[@Gokuirlll]

I say fire new devs and just hire the ones that actually listen instead of making unnecessary decisions

[@williamcarder1975]

@@Gokuirlll will never happen

[@Gokuirlll]

@@williamcarder1975 ik but a boy can dream

[@EwkaKonewkaa]

im playing sicne 2011. lately just hopping to see how its going. always wished it the best, but now i dont care anymore, it can die

[@BSJINTHEHOUSE420]

So this is how DCUO dies… with pay to not play.

[@solareiusdeiu]

Pay to skip 😅

[@JayyTwoFaceTTV]

Now all we need is to be able to buy skill points..

[@HiHi-yk1mv]

They are so slow. If they would’ve been did this they would be rich enough to improve the game

[@BaithNa]

You already can by buying unlocked time capsules

[@BaithNa]

And replay badges

[@jailbreakmaker003]

You already can. Time capsules. Yeah they’re a gamble but that’s the point. Get you to spend as much as possible on the chance you’ll get what you want.

[@HiHi-yk1mv]

@@jailbreakmaker003 You get like less than 30% of sp from time capsules. Use your brain before you hit send next time.

[@DECEPTICONUK]

I stopped playing this crap a year ago, best decision ever. 10 years of being let down. Time for all of u to move on. DCUO is dead.

[@JaredSheldrake]

You obviously havent moved on yet 😂

[@Moonshinne]

If they made all sp 100% buyable they’d have enough capital to turn around the game

[@adamwilder2943]

Thanks for the video, as I'll keep my real money usage to a minimal

[@Be.Blessed]

Engagement = money I saw through it when I read it.

[@durrclips746]

Why even play the game? Just give them your credit card They were selling source marks already on the store. Maybe you didnt notice before. They were definitely already selling source marks months ago but not episode currency.

[@woIfson]

nobody bought the source marks, this right here is a completely different monster, with dlc currency they can't go more p2w then this.

[@dominiquesimmons8008]

Same thing ​@@woIfson

[@teristylez1809]

They want us to quit.. the writing has been on the wall as the stars align. Life time subscriptions (Wolf packs), slowed release of half a**ed reused content, and now sabotage to drive player away. Take time and enjoy the game for what it is. Its the best and only superhero game with the most robust customization in gaming. Just play for fun we can't win when the hand that feeds won't feed us. They want us to die off the end is near.

[@diegoelunico]

I agree, so they can shut DCUO down and they will complain by saying that "players don't play the game anymore as they used to".... 😒

[@Christian102XD]

I remembered they said: "This episode is gonna be like anything you've seen before" And all I've seen is ways to get more money from players. They just wanna get as much money before the game dies. Reason why I'm not playing this game anymore.

[@CardboardCollect]

Player count is so low everyday I log in I just sit around with the omnibus timer taking forever I’m sick of this game.

[@claudiabcarvalho]

Nah, that's because there's an overpopulation of dps. I queue omni as dps and healer, and 99% of the time I find a match immediately as a healer.

[@D-k2p]

For me this was the final nail in the coffin, i have been playing this game for 12 years. And you’re telling me that I can buy everything with real money 5 minutes after the episode released? What even is the point of playing anymore? Event currency, source marks and time capsules i was already against these things but atleast they didn’t grant you endgame gear. I’m so done and I was so excited to play the game after a days work. Only to see this change, i deleted the game right after because again… what is the point now?

[@paltehermanospoloos4753]

I don’t see the problem you don’t have t to pay😂

[@Mike-er9td]

took you long enough

[@kidink-_3782]

@@paltehermanospoloos4753he basically saying there’s no point what’s the point of playing if that’s the easy way out now it’s not realistic anymore they only want money there are people who put thousands into this game it’s never going to stop with the bs like this u have people that continue to contribute to it it’s hard for this game to go back the way it was it’s never going to stop instead of worrying about the things that need to be done

[@notanotherswordreviewchann4901]

Lmfao the amount of coping and fan boy slobs in these comments for this trash game is astounding. Pathetic losers with mommies credit card....low information voters

[@paltehermanospoloos4753]

@@kidink-_3782 there are people that don’t want to grind and maybe have jobs so I don’t see the problem for them to spend money to get good

[@DarkTrainerGas]

Damn.... i can only imagine the number of players leaving today 😖

[@FlashJ7]

i really hope this is the wake up call for a lot of vets/whales

[@PlusUltraBrando]

Anyone experiencing the op item bug? I finished raid/journal mission and go to mister miracle but no button to talk to him

[@svz1345]

Everyone is. I was so confused cause I thought I did something wrong but naah, the episode is bugged af. 😢

[@claudiabcarvalho]

If you press the button to interact, he will offer you a task, but that interaction will also count for the omnipotence mission.

[@Almost-Infamous]

By engagement, they do not mean actively playing the game. By engagement, they mean spending money on the game.

[@williamcarder1975]

This game is quickly dying. They are just trying to milk it for all they can before it shuts down.

[@JaredSheldrake]

@@williamcarder1975 it died the day it was released over 10 years ago apperently.

[@kryptonianpatriot4637]

Yeah. This is absolutely phuck'n ridiculous. I couldn't even obtain the new OP belt. I'm stuck on the prompt "check in with Mister Miracle" and he's not lit up for me to engage with him. What a shit show.

[@TheBaddad106]

The beginning of the end is happening before our eyes.

[@nicolasbosco2820]

Dead game 😂

[@geoffreylane5606]

Because most of the players never put their foot down it has finally come down to this. This game has been dying since 2014 and nobody ever complained enough and loud enough as a group, nobody boycotted the game on Twitter or anything like that and it has finally come down to this.

[@johnm2894]

Thanks O, as always Grea content, you're very insightfu.l I truly love the game but, they are making it very hard for someone who's been a loyal player for so long ,we are lucky to have you!!

[@fightermama1748]

I don’t like it!! You can get fully geared without running a single second of the content! We already have tons of people who get geared without knowing how to properly play the game. This will only make the experience for true players even worse when they get put in an instance with those who bought their gear and don’t know what they are doing!

[@DarienWhite-vm2hb]

All the feats will be on sale next.

[@DcuoRn]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@staytruog]

I would rather them do this, and sell sp so that the game can stay alive… As we can see by gatekeeping the skill point situation new players are not coming in, I wonder if every new DLC will come with a character booster… Which in my opinion is the right thing to do, but the characters need more than 70 skill points

[@trumpelstiltzkin9068]

Gatekeeping the sp is the only reason ppl still play and the only thing stopping the game from being p2p

[@claudiabcarvalho]

​@@trumpelstiltzkin9068 Exactly! They're the only reason some players run old content.

[@tavissalley1096]

So your hoping they make it p2w bro mfs are not spending this to go up on this old ass game

[@Shaojackify]

Not enough players already, we get so few new players then to make it worse we eat our young. I'm honestly stunned it hasn't gone full maintenance mode already.

[@LosrelatosdeGerman]

I'm very happy I uninstalled this a few days ago.

[@emeraldknight4475]

It's seems to be end days of dcuo don't it

[@isthisnametaken9965]

I said it before and I’ll say it again; obsidian is for the people. You would think since he’s in the dc creator thing he would side with them to stay there, instead he actually calls out bs like this. Never been a sell out

[@Percoseti]

This game has become so money hungry I’m glad I quit this game long ago

[@Percoseti]

@@popeyeschknisfknawsum to support obsidian

[@slowmojo9355]

Yea i just to also play a lot, but i also quit like over a year a go,

[@Lucchese18]

I know theyve said the game is dying for damn near the whole existence of the game but..... Idk this seems like the beginning of the end for real

[@novadeathstar5845]

I think that’s the point no more 2x 3x currency weeks now were forced to give up our wallets

[@Deadran]

Been away from the game for like 2 years now but pop in to watch your vids here and there, holy fuck this update is absolutely egregious. Are they getting close to sunsetting or something?

[@RegionYT]

I started playing new world recently.. buy the game once and one dlc and you get the whole game to explore…

[@DamienGGW]

i'm curious if it cheaper or more expensive per mark by buying marks or spending replay badges and running the content

[@shein360]

Those prices are outrageous. Good god

[@PawsomePaw]

Seriously? My god, how can you drive a game to the wall like that? What's next? We can buy all the feats that we don't have yet? Anyone who continues to play and support this game is just stupid....

[@hussleforlove7179]

A lot of people on Xbox are stupid those wannabe tough guys

[@ksa7621]

Im gonna keep playing cuz it’s nostalgic af

[@rompetoto1743]

The end is near…

[@inspire7718]

gearing to shut down 🤣

[@HiHi-yk1mv]

Literally

[@HiHi-yk1mv]

Now I’m def not buying nothing but they gone have to give me some of my money back because they never lead anyone to believe they were shutting down

[@rodgers731]

Painfully obvious theyre just milking it as much as possible before they shut it down. Lol not even trying to hide it anymore.

[@adamquark7515]

They already stopped engagement from getting increased when they raised the amount of SP's that are needed to keep your role maxed out by 5 points (from 10 for each episode to 15). Now, this. I just no longer have words to describe how down this game is going. Actually I only have insults.

[@johnharris8696]

They might as well take feats out shit spend money and you are just as strong as a player with max skill and gear. This game has just become a money grab any more

[@jerilcrafton5138]

I’ll be the first one to admit I hate grinding the currencies. (I know it’s lazy) but I don’t play the episode for the content anymore. I’m a hardcore casual I only really play for the styles. Do I buy TC? Hell yeah I do. That being said even thing I give 0 fks about the content being put out. The concept of “this is new, let’s get explore” still drives me to play. And it makes the game engaging for me as a casual. I’ll be 100% I don’t have a single piece of elite gear aside from lantern. But it’s because I don’t care to. I get the basic gear and I’m happy. This episode is really letting me down though. Despite me being a casual, and lazy I still think it’s important to earn these rewards. And in my way I do. I have to say one of my biggest disappointments though… 1 new style and a currency change for the secondary gear from the last episode is just lazy. Do better…

[@nicholasm7092]

You complain about them being lazy but you self being lazy you just a hypocrit

[@wavyrc8985]

Just buy membership once( when a tc comes out that you like) farm stabilizer mission and pay IGC for resets. No need to waste $

[@notanotherswordreviewchann4901]

Yep. I'm done with this garbage. Hoping the servers are taken offline in the next few years. Fuck this bs. I even deleted it from my catalog. Trash game. Had so much potential for so long but it's clear the devs and owners don't give a shit. I'm out.

[@dacariice19]

I been off and on since launch. This game still holds a place in my heart but it’s about time to retire. I been on top I took breaks and grinded back. I bought $1,000s of dollars getting artifacts maxed with a main and 2 alts. I feel I beat the game back in 2014. If they want more interest than they should make a true sequel. With current graphics and rework on powers and abilities and fighting

[@jailbreakmaker003]

I’ve been on and off since 2013. Got back into it hard during Covid and found a league. I still hang with them but now I’m party chat. The game still holds a huge part of me cause I do still love it at its core but it’s completely changed. The level of customization you can’t find in most games. The combat dynamic actually being smooth. I just tried FF 14 and it looks good and all but it feels so slow compared to DC which I never thought I’d find myself saying. I’ve spent an ungodly amount of money on shit and became a try hard. I’ll still play but I no longer feel comfortable giving them my money. Why spend money on replays if I can buy the marks. Ugh this is a new low

[@The_Bi-polar_Express]

I only get annoyed when a specific friend of mine expects me to kill all his quest mobs for him, then he logs off half way through a dungeon and leaves me hanging, don't get me wrong, I can jold my own, its just frustrating. Update he invited me to a group, told me to kill his quest monsters for himand demanded all the psyionic remnantsI had, then he got blocked.

[@claudiabcarvalho]

And people thought that firing Mepps was good news for us. Maybe he was fired because he refused to do those kinds of things.

[@majinhunna]

How bout work on a new power like all the other powers youll create. Would be nice for sum wind type stuff idk

[@Joshua_Pate]

Anyone playing on PC through steam? Stuck on the Launchpad screen. Literally closes and does nothing.

[@colmmccallion9204]

Works fine for me but that sounds like an issue I had years ago, corrupted config. Try load the game outside of steam to confirm

[@ItalianStallion219]

Damn this is sad. I just came back to dcuo after listening to a podcast the two head people were on and it got me excited to play the game again. Now to see this just shows they haven’t learned anything, it’s fantastic they went to free episodes but this is just another divide between the devs and the players.

[@williamcarder1975]

I give this game this game 12-18 months tops

[@DcuoRn]

$50 for 100 coins 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂I wanna know who buying that crap

[@dashinc.8006]

A lot of stvpids..

[@solareiusdeiu]

Whales

[@DcuoRn]

@@solareiusdeiu 😂😂😂

[@hank2948]

​@@solareiusdeiu there aint a single irl person with real money playing this shit. What you think are "whales" are actually just scammers just wasting money or little kids maxing out their mom's credit card

[@spritualflared]

I think it’s a good idea, ain’t nobody tryna grind their life away in a virtual game 25/7

[@incognito1940]

Then whats the point of even downloading a game if you dont wanna grind? Thats the point of what games are, you grind to get up. You saying its a good idea is stupid because then what you going to skip content buy marks and gear and then what? Just load in the game to stand around? Thats sum boring ass shit theres literally no point of downloading the game if thats all you gonna do.

[@Brxydan]

Thats the point of games like this. Its supposed to be some type of grind. now they removed like the only grind worthy thing in the game by adding the ability to purchase ep currency which is just crazy.

[@slowmojo9355]

Than they better off Making a new DCUO and everybody starting from scratch

[@Killuminati911]

Game is done for me, playing since launch. PvP was the best thing it every had 2011-2012 rip🥲

[@franciscohahn9393]

After the artifacts it felt like it was a pay to win, but i got to understand it same with allies, i did spend some money (a lot) but it's ok at least if u understand the game you are able to choose the correct ones. I can understand a bug, unfinished content released (as a developer that crap happens more than i like), surprise shutdowns, broken artifacts, whatever....but paying the currency feels specially wrong. Well today i canceled the membership, hopefully they can correct the course.

[@rikumuas]

At this point might as well start selling feats and boss drops

[@kinglyatticus]

I dont know what to say......

[@greenmumin]

This company is soo backwards man..there are literally so many things they could do/give us to get our money:there are hundreds of requested styles,base items ppl has said would happily pay for them-No they dont do it- then they do stuff like this because they wqnt more money💀🤦 If they would really want money,there are TONS of things they could do that the playerbase would be happy for and would happily pay for-they dont do any of those things.BUT they like to do stuff that kinda breaks the game. They are really not that smart,are they?🤦

[@jeremyjordan669]

making skins/ base items would cost them time and money to make before making a profit on those items if a profit at all. and as always for any video game players never truly know what they actually want. and im torn on the them being not smart because they are being smart in the sense of how to get as much money as possible as quick as possible without doing any extra work. that all being said i do not agree with them doing stuff like this in any fashion.

[@jeffspencer1255]

At this point the only thing I would be interested in in the marketplace would be a way to pay to get rid of the lag. Last 3 episodes are unplayable.

[@JaredSheldrake]

Might need to upgrade from your 2005 playstation

[@jeffspencer1255]

​@@JaredSheldrake Way to assume. It's a widespread, known problem.

[@JaredSheldrake]

@@jeffspencer1255 alot of old playstations being used it seems lol

[@JaredSheldrake]

@@jeffspencer1255 alot of ps2s kicking around lol

[@ethanflores7948]

the game on Xbox is empty... 4 or 8 people per server... I've logged in several different times a week and in all its just empty. Are the players more active on PC?

[@TheRoreaga]

PC and PS are on the same servers, so yes. Also much more on US servers than EU.

[@ethanflores7948]

@@TheRoreaga starting from scratch is a bother but still holds in as a good game. Thanks for letting me know ✌🏼

[@flameable4783]

I just wanna make my toons look good man 😭😂

[@The_Bi-polar_Express]

Im trying to find a legitimate way to quickly grind coney coins. Is it reset elite solo?

[@allstardevitt]

Basically, it's still better to get replay badges ($10 per 4 raids/32 currency)

[@digitalmaijiin6236]

Completely unrelated but I wish theyd make sp worth it as well. The small flat stat increases beyond the initial 100 is pathetic. We spend all this time grinding for sp and it just feels cosmetic...

[@1506Jimbob]

Player engagement basically meant engage their wallets

[@Joe-oy9yh]

I’m happy I decided to quit this game about just about a year ago seems to be heading on a downwards spiral every time I see something about the game!

[@ShatterStory]

This completely defeats the purpose of playing that episode if you’re just going to buy that episodes currency. You’ll be bored af after you’ve gotten all the gear.

[@emeraldknight4475]

Same aspect as the wolf token coz they removed the double xp now currency will be the same for sure said it soon as wolf token came out

[@TheKaoticivory]

Not worth it 10 dollars get u 350 badges /87 = 4 runs so 100 dollars is 400 marks and 200 dollars 800 so u losing out on 300 marks … but ppl don’t care they probably will still buy

[@demonocusmetalocus3558]

Its looking more and more like they are just grabbing as much cash as they can before the servers shut down for good.

[@woIfson]

they really doing the ''easy way out'' this is why i stopped playing this game for over 2 weeks now even with this new dlc i can't muster the strength to log in, it's that bad.

[@jjaws43v3r3]

I get why people are not in favor of this, but I also see it as a way new players can catch up to the vets/OGs its not forcing you to buy it so the game is still playable. I will say content is a bit dull with the reused assets but didn't they just pull in new people a bit ago? shouldn't we wait a bit more for the chance that this game might flip around and they just need the extra money to pay for it? I thought they were going to redo the graphics at some point which as a style hunter I think is a much needed update. to add on as a positive to this a lot of us grew up playing this and we have jobs that don't let us play nearly as much anymore so if I can drop $20 for a small skip to try and stay in the recent content that I would not really have the time to grind for would be a good thing.

[@ObsidianChill]

how would this help new players buying gear and not running the content to learn the game?

[@NipseyX]

Player since 2011 ps3 here. 😢😢😢😢 all ima say you guys feel my pain

[@slowmojo9355]

That was the good olt times, i still remember when the game came out and than intalling it in my PS3. It took like 3 to 4hrs😄😄

[@Superpatriot]

Dude, I'm crying laughing right now. I may have to dust off my OBS and make a video around all this shit because to be completely honest, knowing what I knew back then, I'm not surprised by ANY of the things you've talked about in the last two videos.

[@DCUOMultiverse]

What did you know back then?? Bow you have to make a video and tell us. :)

[@DarkHorusDCUO]

He’s alive 🤯

[@gond9166]

When the developers of a game do these kinds of cash grabs, it means the game is shutting down soon. And they want to grab as much money as they can before the end.

[@felicelupin]

Just like double XP, with this, they'll cancel double/triple marks. Vote with your time and wallets.

[@juancaraballo5957]

Why won’t they add quarks to the market place as well 🤔

[@shein360]

Where do I find Batman in the open world?????

[@youngcnyce]

Imagine actually paying hundreds of dollars to get full gear set then the game shuts down a couple months later 😅

[@calvinsutton4405]

One thing you fail to realize is that everyone is not members, everyone can't afford to buy coins. So when there is double XP, etc., people who can't afford can utilize that time to run content. You assume everyone has money to spend. The majority of DC players grind. People like yourself have money to spend. DayBreak is a business and they're going to market what sales. Your emotional opinions don't pay DayBreak bills or employees. Stay humble😳

[@tomashley4643]

When all the weird shit like this started on city of heroes...it was shutdown 6 months or so later...

[@tomashley4643]

"so 47 had low engagement to run the content. I got an idea, lets sell currency for 48 so they dont need to run it at all".

[@jailbreakmaker003]

What’s the point of replay badges now if you can just buy the marks

[@shein360]

I wish we could buy quarks

[@ThatSubZeroGamer]

DCU Online: How do we make more money?🤔💰 NBA2k: I hear you're looking to make more money? I got an idea for yea... Hehe.😎

[@tavissalley1096]

The fact you have people saying this is good just shows you how watered down gamers have become to poor games and just accept it

[@jfernandez7176]

Every single game out there requires money to be spent to get "something"... so I am honestly ok with this.

[@3LP3LOCHA]

PREACH BROTHER PREACH!!!!

[@drathmor1401]

wow they complain about engagement and then just make a way to skip playing entirely, the powers that be for this game just have brain worms now

[@BaithNa]

Just don't buy it. Why are people acting as if there's some kind of moral line beind crossed? This game is in maintenance mode and they've been selling everything from feats to arts, why not sell this too? If people want to gear up super quick and stop playing, let them. The rest of us will gear up normally and play as we usually do. No one is being hurt by this unless you only play to see your name at the top of the damage charts, like a loser. Just buy it or dont, play or don't. It's not that serious.

[@ddddavyy8383]

I think most people are pissed off because it has ruined the ecosystem of the game entirely. Why group up and do raids and grind together as a group and make friends that way...when you can just buy the currency and level up straight away without the hassle? Not only does it ruin the community, but it's also indicative that they don't care about what content they're putting out when there's an option to fast track straight through it all. It's the RockStar Games approach to online content support...

[@lucas85180]

why ppl cant make their point over something bad?

[@StealthMockingbird]

Not even remotely surprised. Skill Points are next. SMDH.

[@stevejeebs]

Man, I’m disappointed fr but I’m not surprised. They really don’t care atp, they probably want to get rid of this game for real. Real sad tbh.

[@shawnanderson3062]

After all these years, the game might actually DIE. Officially pay for gear/win/advance. The only reaseon to run content is lousy SP, and those are missing. Also only 1 recycyed raid,alert, solo. Actually WTF were they thinking. R.I.P. to DC.thanks and haveagood1 after 13 years thanks to Obsidian for all youve done for the community bless you

[@claudiabcarvalho]

Yay, more bad players refusing to learn the mechanics because they can pay to get strong enough to ignore them in the lastest 3 episodes! Then they run old content and blame healers and tanks, and cause disbands because they refuse to follow mechanics, ruining the experience for people who enjoy actual gameplay. I was "tanking" battle-healing Aracno Overlord today, just me and a dps, and the guy couldn't block or avoid massive damage to save his life - I died once, he must've died 20 or more times. I lost aggro a few times and the boss would turn to him, and all of those times he just kept attacking and running away, leading the boss away from me. And he just kept going like that - he could've learned from how I was doing, he could've changed his strategy, but no. During Batman Day, my team got wiped fighting Zoom in Royal War because they didn't block Zoom the first time (and I had to block, so I couldn't save them). I kept fighting him (battle-healing again), they didn't ask me to wipe, and I defeated him by my own. It also bothers me how everyone who's not a tank is oblivious to the fact that they can interrupt enemies' weapon attacks with block and lunge (the ones that are susceptible to interrupt). I saw what they did with the new episode, displaying a shield above the character's head when they need to block, maybe because they think players don't want to read. But anyone who played The One Who Waits knows that that's not the problem. People don't ignore texts, they ignore mechanics, they want to press buttons randomly and finish the run without having to think about it; they don't see value in doing mechanics, because they want to feel OP, and following rules isn't "cool". They need to make people feel cool for doing mechanics.

[@PlayerWays412]

I get it because people don't even Queue up content anyway.

[@woIfson]

so what? you still gonna need to buy the elite gear and you gonna have to play the dlc elite content to get the renown unless this idiots start selling elite renown too, now that would be absolutely comical.

[@jeffreyshaw7988]

Everyone screws about money being involved but oblivion and og,s will still own them x) just like wolf token don't buy our protest is our money

[@jeffreyshaw7988]

As in win in pvp own them ofc ;p

[@Damonicus1]

Pay to get bragging rights. I recently went back to the game for ep47. I enjoyed it, for maybe a week, then got tired of the same grind over and over again.