DDR5 vs DDR4 Memory: Differences & Should You Wait?

[@ThioJoe]

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[@octanefame8258]

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[@orang6521]

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[@armyguy9735]

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[@Quadrant33]

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[@caleboppeltthebestgamer1063]

can you make a video of getting all the free skins on ps3 plsssssssssssssssssssss

[@draetonbybee9307]

see yall in about 10 years when ddr6 is coming out and this video gets recommended to everyone on the planet.

[@creeper2159official]

Claiming my ticket

[@sylvixyan]

Hi future

[@hamedmnthri4346]

I was here

[@johnmarku3658]

by that time ddr10 would be available

[@muhamadsarhad6566]

Hi future me

[@danielyoung_]

If we are lucky, DDR5 might even be IN STOCK!

[@Ahmed_onYT]

Might...

[@How23497]

Demon86monster It will. RAM is usually made in very high quantities

[@erickabundis7952]

@@How23497 yeah hopefully COVID is dealt with also, that will also help a ton since that’s why there’s a shortage on new components

[@kito3483]

unlike ps5

[@Itsme-if1mw]

Kito you mean unlike 30 series and 5000 series

[@Dragonslayrr]

I get the feeling that DDR4 and DDR5 aren’t dance dance revolution games.

[@aussieglizzy6998]

Bro thats funny af

[@ColRealPro]

Ok wtf why are people so good at making funny jokes

[@Freakazoid12345]

I learned what computer DDR was after Dance Dance Revolution, so DDR the game will always be the O.G. for me. R.I.P.

[@royalrumble7185]

ahahhaahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@justincoltharp9701]

I mean they are but they arent

[@ragingcow]

im surprised this guy isnt teaching us how to download ddr5

[@zachoshark]

is this guy used to be bad?

[@goldenaxe2924]

what?

[@ragingcow]

@@zachoshark all his vids used to be about downloading performance and using usb drives as ram

[@Mangk89]

@@zachoshark he used to be a trolling tech channel back in the day its been years now

[@Kontroll343]

Yeah I always skipped his stuff cause I thought he was just fucking with me

[@Cjnator38]

“DDR5 or DDR4?” Me: *DDR3. Take it or leave it.*

[@christiankm8820]

hahahaha... DDR2.

[@AJAYKUMARSAGAR]

Managing here with DDR2

[@wideasriel]

I still use DDR3

[@ThioJoe]

DDR2 best I can do

[@manu-singh]

@@ThioJoe wow you bought your own membership

[@duhovnik]

DDR5 memories are going to be great!!!! Every single scalper out there: Hold my beer

[@Strahinja_Djordjevic]

Ram is made in really high capacity stock should be high for the most part.

[@plakeplays6420]

@@Strahinja_Djordjevic Ram between 2133-3000 is in stock but 3200 and higher im having difficulty finding

[@qee540]

now. this proof multicore is going to rule the chart.

[@Cazanu417]

Kinda wished they will try that with ram lol they can make 16 gigs of ram in a second unlike a gpu or ps5

[@cock465]

You mean hold my series 30?

[@stingray52]

Trust me, I’ve been waiting since 2010 to upgrade my PC.👍

[@tvthecat]

Pathetic I've been waiting since 2006

[@div_100]

Yikes I am.waiting for 10 more years (2000)

[@musek5048]

@@E.T.S. i tried linking my abacus to a friends pc to see if it would update but not even the beads would budge.

[@perpetualcollapse]

Since 2007 here.

[@srpenguinbr]

IMHO 10 years should be a regular lifespan for a PC for a home user

[@Pixelcraftian]

We're getting a new Dance Dance Revolution?

[@crtcomputer8779]

😂😂😂 nice joke

[@Elias_Harrison]

i dont mean to be an ass *_but that is half stolen_*

[@Weezeler]

I didnt know DDR worked like this

[@kroepoek3764]

@@Elias_Harrison don’t feel bad. This is some unoriginal guy stealing alot of comments and trying to get subs by doing so

[@MrBaconWasTaken]

yessir

[@_purejosh]

"should you wait?" Uh, bruh. We literally have no choice BUT to wait.

[@7PlayingWithFire7]

You cant get ddr4 ram? What backwards country do you live in?

[@wtf847]

@Vaughn Glugla wrong again the idiot above you cant figure out the title is about waiting for ddr5 or staying with ddr4 for now...because there is no ddr5 yet or motherboards or chips designed with it in mind

[@SparkyShootr]

@@wtf847 someone’s angry

[@insanitylol]

@Vaughn Glugla true about cpu and gpu i guess..

[@jyrolys6]

The question is whether to wait for DDR5 or to build a machine with DDR4.

[@kamally]

This is probably what you wanted to know: Just go with DDR4 for now

[@jannclaudebinoya]

First gen of ddr5 are gonna be shit I'm sure. I'd personally wait for 2-3 years after ddr5 fully matures

[@kamally]

@@jannclaudebinoya No real performance increases at first, gonna be very expensive etc. Basically a repeat of what the ddr4 launch was like

[@alrizo1115]

Depends. Watch for reviews first when it comes out.

[@gorkman5697]

@@jannclaudebinoya exactly, you are right

[@maddymuhat8079]

@@jannclaudebinoya agree.

[@louistournas120]

Thank you for sticking with standards applied in Computer Science since the beginning of time 1024 B = 1 kB 1024 kB = 1 MB 1024 MB = 1 GB 1024 GB = 1 TB

[@Vxid4535]

People in the next 10 years "Your phone only has 500 TB? Mine has 2 Petabytes"

[@hidden4305]

@@Vxid4535 50*

[@Vxid4535]

@@hidden4305 Lmao ikr, when I first bought my pc (its a prebuilt) it only had 256gb. My phone had that much at the time (no I dont have an expensive phone, I caught it on 50% off on black friday for like 300, at its original price its the same as my pc lmao)

[@Tuberex]

@@Vxid4535 I still have an old "high end" pc that has a 80 gb HDD.

[@Vxid4535]

@@Tuberex Goddamn

[@AK474000]

Dual Channel on a single DIMM is kind of huge for budget PC game builds. You no longer have to worry about buying single stick of memory and losing out on some performance.

[@arnav6236]

I remember when I was 10 and this guy told me that taping batteries to my Ethernet cable will make my internet faster

[@RealGabeMcGuire]

LOL IKR...It's a little hard to take him seriously now lol. He's got surprisingly good info now though haha

[@comiqc]

Gabe McGuire ....its not hard to tell when someone is joking

[@patrioticwhitemail9119]

@@comiqc it *is* hard to tell who's lieing when you don't know the truth ahead of time. People are on the internet to learn and don't have thousands of dollars to blow peer reviewing every single electronic device they hear about online. When you hear enough info, you can connect the dots and sus out things that aren't like the others, but that takes time, and wisdom isn't something novices have. Have you ever had a freshman walk up to you and ask where a classroom is? At my school we would always tell them "Yeah, you're class is on the third story of the gym where the indoor pool is". It sounds dumb, but they always believed it. This is why age of consent exists.

[@comiqc]

@@patrioticwhitemail9119 so you're telling me taping batteries to something makes it faster, damn what universe am I living in it sucks, lying*

[@patrioticwhitemail9119]

@@comiqc no, I'm saying don't trust anything untill you are able to tell who's lying. As for batteries, I don't see why not. Bigger power make car go faster so why not ethernet?

[@itdotho661]

and we have to wait until mobos start having ddr5 slots

[@gamerkrish7182]

and cpus as well :D

[@ec1021501]

In short, not going to happen in a reasonable price before mid-2022.

[@jannclaudebinoya]

Wait for 2nd gen ddr5 cpus. First gen will always be crap

[@ec1021501]

@@Crisp753 New intel chip you mean Alder Lake? I still don't think DDR5 will be at a good price though by than.

[@maddymuhat8079]

Yeah another expenses

[@prabhanieliyanage6860]

Thio: DDR4 or DDR5, which is better? Me: *survives with DDR3*

[@maurice7017]

its time to get out of stone age my friend

[@thetrollmaster4485]

I have DDR2

[@clarenceaguimod1469]

Reality sucks

[@themsovietbois]

ddr2

[@alexbridenbaker9261]

Just download more RAM

[@andrewaslame9138]

What I've missed? 2021: DDR5 2014: DDR4 2007: DDR3 Me: *DDR2* but still getting 1000fps in Minecraft lol

[@thatranger92]

Ddr3 with 12fps '-'

[@bruhhub3808]

@@thatranger92 you got that gt 210

[@thatranger92]

@@bruhhub3808 huh

[@xgoaysma3848]

What cpu?

[@thatranger92]

@@xgoaysma3848 cries in i3

[@DafterHindi]

Pro tip for joe : Stick the script to the camera

[@davejones1621]

I remember this guy when he used to chat shit about tech XD.

[@Amanullah-dx5uy]

Same and the comment section was full of memes,etc......

[@nikoseleftheriadis9420]

I will wait for DDR 6 ! (:D)

[@rummanjannat8478]

2029. take it or leave it

[@nickt1262]

I agree! What a "racquet" all to try to take ones money.

[@qee540]

how nice to be young :V

[@rummanjannat8478]

@Zoro Cali nah

[@Jon844W]

Good luck waiting for 10+ years

[@ryancoy6537]

This might be the technology we needed to run 3 chrome tabs boys. Time to celebrate.

[@chaoscoolcreations]

me who runs 3-4 chrome tabs on my pc everyday on windows 7 : p a t h e t i c

[@xq9g505]

Me: going to buy DDR5 and get rid of DDR4 Also me: nevermind because mother boards doesn't support it

[@jenycek2222]

Processors neither.

[@shaitanllama3898]

True 👌🏻

[@ssadisfyingg]

@Abdulhadi Zahrani Bro ddr5 isn’t gonna release for another 2 years imo

[@bogodoyandex9654]

@@ssadisfyingg not truth. zen4 and intel alder lake will support. intel alder lake is aboout 2021lately to 2022 early release. zen 4 2022 early release. so ddr 5 is about 1more years can use at destop pc.

[@ssadisfyingg]

@@bogodoyandex9654 Ur probably right, it’s cause 2020 just went by in like a second for me and thought we were still like early/mid 2020

[@marktaylor2087]

Hey Joe, I was just about the start making some upgrades to my PC and after seeing this video I've definitely decided to wait until DDR5 is out. Totally makes sense, even if there's no massive advantage right at the start, at least I'll have the option to upgrade in a couple of years. Could you do a video on this kind of theme? Things to be aware of when attempting a 'future proof' computer, I've learned so much from your channel - thank you so much!

[@auritro3903]

ddr4 has same number of pins has ddr5 * Has motherboard with one less pin * *Visible pain*

[@UtkarshKaushik]

invisible pin

[@Robert.101]

Utkarsh Kaushik lmao

[@riufq]

*as

[@Lobos222]

My experience from DDR to DDR3... as long as you have enough ram for your need. It doesnt matter if you have stat of the art or 2nd gen ram type. DDR4 bought today wont be "obsolete" before you buy a new computer. So it all comes down to the overall cost, what motherboard you want and if you dont mind the early adopter price tag. Obviously DDR5 is better, but you should ask yourself if you actually need it. - Lets not forget that fast ram doesnt make your SSD or spinndisk faster...

[@igorthelight]

+1

[@vorgon]

I heard that ECC was at last going to be standard for DDR5 were it's optional for ddr4 which is why few boards support ECC

[@scottr7683]

Sort of... DDR5 has mandatory in-chip ecc, which protects against single bit errors in a single chip. This is necessary, because the larger capacity, and higher transfer rates will have a higher error rate. This will increase yields, because ram that might have 1 error out of every few billion cycles will be stable, and can be sold without issue. This will lower cost. ECC across the entire DIMM is still a thing, but instead of having 1 parity chip per 8 normal chips, you'll have 1 parity chip per 4 normal chips, making it actually cost more.

[@Carr7.0]

@@scottr7683 also checking on errors cost time and just like video streams not everyone wants to wait

[@scottr7683]

@@Carr7.0 while true, these specs were not written with consumer happiness in mind

[@grn1]

@@Carr7.0 I've seen some comparisons between ECC and non-ECC RAM and while there is certainly a difference it's really not that much especially on newer generations of RAM. If Intel hadn't convinced people we didn't need ECC we wouldn't even be having this discussion though. In theory ECC should make it possible to overclock RAM to much higher speeds since it should improve stability.

[@dakra137]

@@grn1 re: "It's not really that much" as in without ECC you have a few undetected errors per month, and with ECC you don't. For engineering, SW development, banking, analytics, and health care, I want ECC. "If Intel hadn't convinced people we didn't need ECC." I didn't know they accomplished that. What they did do was disable ECC in "non-server" grade chips, so they could charge more for "server" grade chips with ECC enabled. What will Intel do to prevent consumer grade chips from infiltrating the server market once the DDR5 ECC is unavoidable????

[@Onaterdem]

"5 years is pretty old for a PC" Me who uses a PC for 6-7 years and a phone for 4-5 years at least: Thanks economy

[@JoshFlynn101]

I'm gonna try and stick it out with my i5 4690k and ddr3 till Zen 4 or Alder Lake mostly for a future-proof socket

[@PSG1JOHN1]

I'm with you my man i5 4870k... was going upgrade to 5950x out of stock... .. and my 1080ti working ok on cyberpunk 2077 but my cpu bottleneck it lol but playable at 1440p

[@wtf847]

ouch thats like 2 years from now

[@JoshFlynn101]

@@wtf847 eh more like 18 months hopefully

[@Baker.Matthew]

Future proof has never been an issue. I usually just buy all new components anyways.

[@Jason-ut3ou]

Same they are saying Alder lake should be dropping second half of 2021 and ADATA already said they have ram ready for Alder lake. I'm still with DDR3 and a i7 4790k so I think waiting a bit longer won't hurt to much, I'll have my PS5 to keep me busy and hopefully a Switch pro drops this year.

[@metricmine]

5 years long? Mine is 12 years. I built a future proof high end PC in 2009 with 1st gen core i7 that just got released and DDR3. Did multiple upgrades along the way, the GPU a few times, amount of RAM, and SSD for boot drive. PC is still going strong for gaming and video editing and encoding.

[@Eyoldaith]

The answer is no, you should never wait for RAM. You upgrade it when you upgrade other components, you don't upgrade because a new gen of RAM is coming.

[@elijah_9392]

Well, if you use memory intensive applications, such as CAD, then yes the wait is worth it.

[@AdrianOkay]

if you're saving for a big upgrade, THE rig, i would wait for AM5 DDR5

[@Noooo23523]

bruh ddr5 is coming in 2022

[@onlyeyeno]

What I like the most about this channel, even more then the "subject matter" is the way it is presented! It always seems to "hit the right level", avoiding to making it overly detailed and dry or making it so cursive that it's basically just "fluff". It's basically as short as it can be to still remain very useful ( to me at least). And also I specifically like how "Joe"(?) isn't pretentious about presenting matters that he "just researched". But basically just says.."this isn't my specialty but this is how it works as far as I have been able to find out". So kudos for the hard work that must be "behind" these great videos, and I hope You manage to keep this "profile" even as the channel continues to grow. Best regards

[@next6326]

Me who got my new PC with DDR4 My friends: U gonna regret it, DDR5 coming soon! Me: Meh, who cares

[@CrashOut7]

Hey beats waiting for scalpers to buy them out of stock and mark it up

You are fine. How most people use their computer they wont even notice the difference and ddr5 is only viable 3 or 4 years from now even if it comes in 1 year.

[@LoidGaming]

@ yeah even if it comes out next year there wont be any support with motherboards or cpus for a little bit. Im guessing in 2023 is when a lot of people will be switchinf

[@victuz]

Who cares anyway... DDR5 prices will be abusive as hell, and the first waves of hardware won't be mature yet. So just like I'm only getting into DDR4 today, DDR5 can wait some years.

[@TypicalBlox]

DDR5 will be all ready to go in about mid 2022 and will finally reach the super fast speeds in about 2024 DDR5 is like 5G, promised to be super fast but the infrastructure is barley built yet waiting 2 - 4 years for DDR5 ( which will be expensive when first launched ) is pretty pointless, just get pretty fast DDR4 and in like 5 years upgrade your motherboard / CPU and get DDR5

[@Puwunda]

I have the most ancient type of RAM it’s called DDRnone

[@Fogolol]

i guess this is a joke but, it's called SD RAM (i assume Standard Data Ram?)

[@andresacosta5318]

Download some DDRmore

[@Carr7.0]

@@Fogolol you mean synchronous dynamic random-access memory?

[@jajajtec]

Me, still with DDR2: *This is fine*...

[@ZMSTA]

i7 4790k 970 and ddr3 ram gang right here. I think i ll w8 a couple years..

[@wojwesoly]

I think you should wait for DDR5 because when it comes out DDR4 prices will drop

[@makecoffee6157]

Then you can finally buy DDR3 on a PC running DDR2 bought when DDR1 was discontinued.

[@nathangamble125]

@@makecoffee6157 But if your PC runs DDR2 you'll probably have to replace the motherboard and CPU to upgrade to DDR3. You may as just go all the way to DDR4 at that point (get an Athlon or Pentium or something).

[@makecoffee6157]

@@nathangamble125 That was just a joke. Read again.

[@JordanISmith]

@@nathangamble125 r/whoosh

[@0s0sXD]

I've known your channel and watched your videos since your old classic video on how to get faster internet but I just subscribed today. Great video

[@codfish1113]

*laughs at still using an AM2 Athlon 64, with DDR2 memory*

[@hueyrosayaga]

*Laughs in DDR2 Celeron*

[@victorbaez8673]

*Laughs in DDR pentium 4*

[@gintick-lo7pu]

It's a very easy-to-understand and excellent video.

[@nocturnal101ravenous6]

Yes Wait, there is always a trend when it comes to a new release on Ram Modules initially they will gouge the price and the wafers are not really refined enough to support higher clocks to offset the timings. Always wait unless you really want to be that Prosumer that has the shiny new, but accept it for what it is and the ups and downs that come in that category.

[@Richard-ty5xi]

What is so great about your channel is you explain everything even tho we dont get it

[@lxcnovo98]

I'm still with DDR3, but I see there's still people with DDR2 and even DDR1, that's craaaaazzzzyyyyy...

[@spinalprizon]

yup. got 8gb ddr2 ram mate

[@Sentinel-lz4ov]

I still have a machine with 512 mb ddr1 RAM. I dont use it anymore though

[@lolol-real8752]

DDR1 is DDR

[@photonboy999]

@@lolol-real8752 , ..but is "Star Wars 4: A New Hope" Star Wars #1 or Star Wars #4?

[@victorbaez8673]

Mate im still using a 1gb ddr1 pentium 4 system from 2004. Linux project tho

[@brianhginc.2140]

@5:25, Burst Length, all DDR rams since DDR#1 through 5 allows sequential unbroken burst reads and writes, meaning, 0 wasted clocks between reads or writes when accessing the same row, continuously reading in a straight line. The annoying issue is the larger minimum burst length of the DDR5 which means is you want 1 word at the beginning of the row and another in the middle, you are stuck reading the minimum 16 words each time wasting clock cycles before you can get to the second word in the middle of the row. If you look at DDR4 being half speed, the half sized burst length means to access those 2 different positioned words of the same row, it will waste the same amount of time as the DDR5. If the DDR5 burst length was only 8 words like DDR4, then the DDR5 would waste half the amount of time to get to those 2 wanted words compared to DDR4.

[@MaxGuides]

It’s kinda misleading to show the pins being split into two channels because you need all the pins to get the full bandwidth. When it is just alternating what components it is sending to since the throughput is higher than the latency of the components combined with the fact that it is reading multiple parts of each wave.

[@josemanuelzamora4949]

The level of knowledge you get from this video is over 9000. Dude you’re something else

[@4.0.4]

I know you needed a graphic but your thumbnail image for "DDR5" is literally my DDR4 (G.Skill TridentZ).

[@benedeknovak230]

I love geeking out on these videos!!

[@rafaelmarkos4489]

You know, on-die ECC being a part of the DDR5 standard might make it worth the upgrade, if that's something that matters to you. (The debate about the importance of ECC is entirely separate.)

[@cubanamerican22]

This is what RAM class ownership will look like in 2022: DDR5: Rappers and Basketball players DDR4: Middle Class people DDR3: Peasants

[@aceottelo]

Bro I loved your acting in the new Zombieland ❤️

[@aurasushii3676]

Hold up, what do you mean??

[@adkn]

Great video but let me clarify something here. When DDR5 comes out, it will be expensive, just like DDR4 or 3 was, it will take like 2 to 3 years more until it become cheap. So if anyone is thinking to buy latest DDR5 upon release, it will cost a fortune to build it. Right now if you need a PC, just buy current gen DDR4, about 5 years later from today, DDR5 will be available in cheaper and improved form, then build your PC on that.

[@jeand2572]

Actually you are very correct, I was waiting for DDR5, but not anymore. As wait is still very long until it becomes practical to use.

[@Racer5323]

Laptop Who's Been Hacked And Almost Exploded, Still Using DDR3: I Am Fine.

[@evolucioszsakutca]

@Persea gatuna probably a shitty joke made by a 10 year old

[@foreverdonut]

I’ve had my PC for 7 years. 2x 8GB DDR3 memory. 970 graphics card. I am very much looking forward to building a DDR5 PC!!

[@AQ-101]

Me: **knows nothing about ram and doesn't know what ddr is** Aslo me when I see the video title: *hmm interesting*

[@nathangamble125]

RAM is the short-term memory of your computer. Bigger DDR number = more + faster = better (but more expensive). Get at least as much RAM as you need (check task manager to see how much RAM is "committed", and get more than that amount), in at least 2 sticks (so you can run in dual-channel = faster), and of the DDR type that your CPU and motherboard are compatible with. More MHz (Megahertz/Frequency) = faster. More C (CL/CAS latency) = slower. That's basically all the average person needs to know about RAM to be able to make sensible decisions about it.

[@AQ-101]

@@nathangamble125 thx dude but I already know what RAM is amd knows alot about it, I was just confused what ddr meant

[@justaguy8654]

Very informative Thanks for the great quality contents keep it up man 👍 👌 😎

[@anch95]

We all know the real dealmaker with DDR5 is RGB, as indicated by the thumbnail.

[@syedirfanahmad9626]

Hi TJ, I have been watching your videos regularly for the last 5-6 months. Your contents are very good. I was just wondering how can I offer you a cup of coffee ☕ as a token of appreciation?

[@RanmaruRei]

I've upgaraded from DDR3 to DDR4 this month. And I'm OK with this. P.S. I've edited the post. Originally, I thought my previous RAM was DDR2.

[@popcapk5536]

Wow... what cpu did you upgrade from and to?

[@RanmaruRei]

@@popcapk5536 Damn, I did a mistake. It was a DDR3 after all. I had: CPU: AMD FX-4300, 4 cores, 3.8 GHz GPU: AMD Radeon 7770 HD RAM 2x4Gb DDR3 800 MHz Now I have: CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, 6 cores, 3.6 GHz GPU: AMD Radeon RX 580 RAM: 2х8Gb DDR4 3200 MHz

[@popcapk5536]

@@RanmaruRei damn, that is still huge upgrade, fx processors (even though they have high clockspeed) aged very badly, i have seen an athlon 200ge beat fx 8300 oc

[@wtf847]

why wouldnt you be ddr5 wont be a thing for 2 more years

[@JordanISmith]

@@RanmaruRei I have the same cpu as your old pc. The fx line does suck, but I'm moving to core i5.

[@Kurumi42]

damn i watched you 6 years ago and now your finally back in my recommended

[@pranavbadrinathan6693]

Get a good GPU, CPU... One word: Scalpers!

[@La_sagne]

just wait 2 months

[@Limbaugh_]

@@La_sagne I’ve been waiting for years, a few months is a small wait to get my hands on a 3070

[@neilpawa1615]

@@Limbaugh_ but isn’t the 3080ti coming around January?

[@Limbaugh_]

@@neilpawa1615 I can’t afford that much I’m aimin for the 3070 still

[@jyrolys6]

@@neilpawa1615 Best case it's announced on Jan. 6th on CES, but the release likely isn't coming for at least late Feb.

[@DJ_MNCN_]

Thanks for the information. This is very informative. I love it.

[@bomber6369]

thio used to troll so everything he says i take with caution lmaoo

[@riceatfajr]

yeah i have trust issue too

[@SERGE_Tech]

very good level of technical details thank!!!

[@DafterHindi]

Meanwhile : me watching this video on 1 gb ram

[@div_100]

The ram size and it's version are different things?

[@OfficialProject420]

@@div_100 its a joke

[@srpenguinbr]

@@div_100 Yes, size is how much data you can hold. Version comes associated more with speed and latency

[@DafterHindi]

@@OfficialProject420 no i do have a 1 gb laptop that runs the latest 64 bit windows 10 and can run youtube on chromium(but very laggy, what do you expect). It runs file explorer fine, that's a win.

[@DafterHindi]

It also has a slow hard drive and takes 15 min to boot

[@mateiberatco500]

Late to the video, but burst length was explained wrong: once a row was activated, you need CAS cycles to actually read/write, each with a TCAS wait. Burst length is the number of cycles after TCAS that actually transfer data. So for a 8 vs 16 burst length difference, you have 2xTCAS+8 vs TCAS+16 (basically you halve TCAS penalties in best-case scenario). PS: most already know TCAS is the predominant performance "metric" (I know, also frequency)...this is why: for each burst, TCAS is mandatory, but TRP+TRCD are only "used" when next data is not in the same row.

[@definedproductions4238]

ah, my boy thiojoe... back in the days "Double your ram in this easy step!!"

[@thethinkingbyte]

I’ve heard this somewhere before…

[@definedproductions4238]

@@thethinkingbyte his old content lol

[@thethinkingbyte]

Oh I thought u would’ve gotten my joke, like: “Double your ____ in this easy step!”

[@definedproductions4238]

@@thethinkingbyte rip, i'm not good with jokes lol

[@thethinkingbyte]

@@definedproductions4238 oh lol, take care tho bro

[@jabulanisello3712]

Can you mix DDR4 and DDR5 cards if you're looking to upgrade your computer's RAM or you must match them exactly down to size?

[@Red72618]

7 years waiting to change my build

[@maybelive765]

Just built an 8yo computer and im not changing it till the next 4! Lol

[@techpriest4787]

APUs could make fantastic use of the extra channels. Graphics just need that bandwidth. Perhaps that's why mobile also have this since they also don't have dedicated VRam.

[@lydierayn]

ddr5 has been coming for the past 5 years.

[@TuskForce]

can't wait for 2021 to see DDR5 coming out

[@clank2269]

Just like me

[@vladislavkaras491]

Great video. Thanks!

[@hitoshijun2600]

Doesn't take a genius to know. there will be a huge price jump from ddr4-ddr5.

[@nathanielbaldevino5364]

We'll just have to wait for years till the ddr4 get phased out and ddr5 be the standard ram for the consumers

[@SERGE_Tech]

what do we really need ddr5 for? isnt it still possible to use ddr3 for just about everything? and we aren't even utilizing it at its fastest speeds.

[@erickabundis7952]

I wonder how much IGpu’s are going to improve

[@Noooo23523]

to the max

[@2dozen22s]

By 2022, A 16c CPU going from stock DDR4 to DDR5 would be a sizeable uplift, ignoring arc changes too. Heavily multithreaded games would likely benefit from quad channel and burst length doubling at that point.

[@AnonymousMC]

Hey there! I hope you have a nice day, enjoy the holiday season, and stay safe! God bless you!

[@Methosu]

0:37 why there is SDRAM the almost oldest version of ram?

[@bigmontanamitch]

I remember when this was a satire channel 😂😂

[@HappyMarshmallowGamingComedy]

Same

[@OutOfNameIdeas2]

Is this guy still trying to scam people? I never trust him on anything and neither should you.

[@nahrafe]

Wait really

[@Chibling]

Given these changes, do you expect a lot of systems to run a single RAM stick? No need for paired dual channel?

[@machinemadman2277]

58 second gang yessir

[@qeawonstevens6253]

58 minute gang

[@claytonstuart]

2 hour gang

[@nicokozak6635]

3 hour gang

[@qeawonstevens6253]

@@MalwarePad waiting on the 58 decades gang😂

[@gghic260]

5 hours gang

[@ketechin]

Burst length is not literally length of bit. It is just phase clock to burst group of bit on the buffer cache. Length of column bit (bit line) is depending of DQ gate and equal with page width (chip organization), such as x8. And equal with burst chop transfered to buffer cache. So page witdh let say x8, burst length is 16, total bite that can be burst is about 8 x 16 phase = 128 bit = 16 byte. Equal with cpu cache line. Page width could be x4 x8 and x16. Let say burst chop is x4, page width is x4, burst length in ddr5 can be 32 instead of 16. Short story, sorry about my english

[@martinschiffer4280]

is the gen of cpu’s compatible with ddr5 gonna be expensive?

[@TuskForce]

depends. There will likely be a budget option at some point in time and space

[@Hect0rx]

It MIGHT come out next year, we have no clue what it'll cost, no idea what motherboards will support it first and what they'll cost as well. Just build your PC now

[@azmc4940]

Good info. Currently, I'd just go with 64 GB of DDR4 3200 CL16. Faster RAM would only make a difference if RAM speed was actually the bottleneck in your use case, which is very rarely the case.

[@HelicopterRidesForCommunists]

Hey thanks for this video. I just bought a $5363 PC from Digital Storm (because they actually have new cpus and gpus which I find impossible to buy on my own) and one of the things that I was concerned about is getting hosed by not waiting for DDR5. You're right though, at first it will be better but it will be more expensive and likely will not mature for another year or so after it comes out. So, I'm hoping to get a good 4-5 years out of my 5950X/ RTX 3090 build.

[@Trucker-Moosey]

Exact same mindset I have. Enjoy your system!

[@HelicopterRidesForCommunists]

@@Trucker-Moosey You as well good sir.

[@AndyDarkKnight]

They're gonna be expensive af!

[@garymartin9777]

It is important to note for DDR memories that performance is not linear with clock speed. One of the most important timing specifications of a DDR ram is the /CAS to DATA time. This spec is usually given in clock cycles at a particular clock rate but in reality it is a constant time t independent of clock. For example, examining the published Crucial data on DDR4, the clock ranges from 933MHz (ddr 1866) to 1600 (ddr 3200) or 1.07 ns to 0.65 ns. However the /CAS to DATA latency in clocks increases with these clock speeds from 13 to 22 cycles. At the same time, the latency expressed in nanoseconds ranges from 13.93 to 13.75 with an excursion into the 14+ ns range. Overall it remains relatively constant. The rest of the ram circuitry is largely clock dependent so it will perform better. This shows how important making effective use of /CAS bursts to strobe out sequential column data is. Internal and external cache memories are tuned to match the burst sizes of the rams. The point is that if you overclock the memory it will deliver data faster, but not nearly the same percentage as the clock speed-up. And your memories will have to be fast enough to follow along.

[@kingarthurthe5th]

Me with DDR2: mmhmm yes, I can finally afford some good ddr3

[@conza1989]

Thanks! I have a 3 year old PC and it's working just fine, so I think I'll give 2021 a pass unless something else amazing happens, and stretch it to 2022/DDR5 comes out (and USB 4.0 that sounds awesome too).

[@anurag842]

Title DDR4 or DDR5 Me with a DDR2 and intel celeron processor nice

[@june5646]

Basically he explained that DDR5 uses RAID-5 on its memory cells.

[@Koyomix86]

I didn’t know about this and I just built a new pc with ddr4

[@lordium1848]

You know you won’t see ddr5 for at least another year?

[@wtf847]

@@lordium1848 dies the idiot who made this video know?

[@CrashOut7]

You rather wait to get memory from a scalper then not being happy with what you currently have? 🤔

[@Koyomix86]

@@CrashOut7 no, my pc is great and ddr5 is probably gonna be hella expensive I was just saying that I’ll have to upgrade the ram in the future

[@mattevans1643]

@@Koyomix86 you'd have to upgrade everything except the gpu and psu.

[@NissanSkylineVR30]

My opinion on this is wait. Just wait. Let many have said DDR5 will be better than DDR4 when its finally released but it won't be better for the price. You are better off buying a computer now, wait 4-5 years down the line and upgrade when DDR5 is at its peak potential. I see it as a waste of money to buy when DDR5 is first release, pay a premium, and then have to pay a premium again for a better DDR5 later on.

[@r-jaybolante2144]

watching this in my Sempron ddr2

[@kylehazachode]

Dual channel on a single dimm stick? Nice. I hope that spec carries over to the so-dimm sized ram. Can’t wait to run multiple virtual machines completely on ramdisk while working on photoshop projects and watching Plex all at the same time.

[@Versuffe]

Me: *laughs in ddrn0 and 1.*

[@VDavid003]

You... Know there's no ddr0, right? Not trying to ruin the joke but still

[@guitarheromoose8445]

So sdr/sdram?

[@Versuffe]

@@VDavid003 I know, I must have been using ancient ram

[@wojtekpolska1013]

even today 8gb of ram is _good enough_ and 16gb is _very good_, 32gb is already an overkill for **gamers** ,and that's just the max for 1 stick, most pc's have slots for at least 2, and often 4 ram sticks DDR5 is going to be important for graphic designers, animators, 3d modelers etc. since this kind of work is usually much more ram-demanding than video games. I'd consider getting DDR5 only few years after it becomes "the standard" since the faster read times are going to be nice, tho its not worth holding on from building a rig today

[@PaleOrchid]

DDR5 in nutshell: 2 LPDDR4X in 1 dimm

[@dom-_-00w]

Thio i have an issue with my pc is there any way I can send you a photo of it ? So in the newest update I think in the settings it said get the most out of your windows So I clicked that and it said I need to put the password to the email of the pc but I bought the pc of someone and it was logged into their account and I don't have the password and I don't want to turn my pc on and off because I think that might break it and I don't want to put my email in because I have all the things saved onto the other guys email so what can I do please reply !