Dead & Company - Cold Rain and Snow (Riviera Maya, MX 2/17/18)

Dead & Company perform 'Cold Rain and Snow' on Night 2 of Playing In the Sand 2018. Click SHOW MORE to read Gary Lambert's notes on this performance.
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Performance Notes
One of the longtime mainstays of the Grateful Dead repertoire, first adapted from an Appalachian murder ballad into the uptempo rocker that appeared on the band’s 1967 debut album, then reworked into the slower-paced but still powerful arrangement that survives to this day. - Gary Lambert
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Written By Jerry Garcia, Phil Lesh, Ron McKernan, Bob Weir
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Produced By Derek Feathersone
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Dead & Company was formed in 2015 when the Grateful Dead’s Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann and Bob Weir joined forces with artist and musician John Mayer, Allman Brothers’ bassist Oteil Burbridge, and Fare Thee Well and RatDog keyboardist Jeff Chimenti. The result was one of the most successful touring bands of the decade. The inaugural tour kicked off in the fall of 2015 with two sold-out shows at the legendary Madison Square Garden in New York City and ended with two sold-out performances at the ‘Fabulous’ Forum in Inglewood, California.
Since then, the band has completed five tours, playing to more than 1.5 million fans, and has become a record-breaking stadium act. Dead & Company has headlined iconic stadiums across the country including Folsom Field, Autzen Stadium, Citi Field, Fenway Park and Dodger Stadium. Additionally, the band broke Wrigley Field’s all-time concert attendance record in 2017. Dead & Company’s 2018 Summer Tour ranked in the top 25 of the Top 100 Worldwide Tours and for the past two years, their Summer Tours ranked in the top 15 of the Top Global Concert Tours.

[@ahrugah1]

John finds it's. I fully enjoy his voice and his guitar playing. The band is so tight. Hats off to them all.

[@davidlong1641]

Solo was just stupid good. Ridiculous, a masterclass in just tearing it up.

[@dashjeffreys6998]

Never gets old.

[@TonyMacFarlane]

Just the musicians.

[@mattkav684]

@@TonyMacFarlane and we fans unfortunately...but there always seems to be a new supply waiting to take our place!

[@robertrindler2080]

I concur

[@Music_head689]

The whole band is just fascinated with him. I’ve never seen anyone make it look so easy in my 18 years of guitar playing

[@nathangray4601]

Hmmm maybe one other fella 🥸

[@bunnybeckman8029]

He’s very good but not Jerry & not trying to b !

[@JamesBrown4ever1]

Good guitarist. Too bad he sings like Dave Mathews.

[@forrestplatt7977]

Jerry's the coolest, but John slays it so bleeping hard. And take a look at pictures of Jerry in 1987 and compare them to John in 2023. Same age.

[@coreymclernon]

Got the shivers from that guitar solo 👌🏽

[@samaulicino4202]

Been a dead fan since early 90's. Never cared much for this song until this version.

[@charlesdevito4165]

I love this song. You are correct this version is the best!

[@jasonrichardson9180]

I have been listening to the Sphere night one version, over and over so good!!

[@philtaylor2387]

That was really stunning what an inspiring performance Jerry would be really proud of John for sure its so nice to get back into the boys after all these years

[@kjohansen4088]

I love watching John jump up and down like he’s taunting Bob. “Look what I can still do”

[@martinwall7297]

can't stop listing to d&c Mayer is really talented. this song especially, glad the band didn't fade away, thank's Bob. you guy's just keep going, we the peoples love it

[@CarnivorousShort]

ROY bean JRAD

[@martinwall7297]

@@CarnivorousShort ???? from where

[@robertthompson3941]

John Mayer appears to”BE” a Tallented Guitarist!,

[@robertthompson3941]

(He has ALL of his fingers 2!)

[@robertthompson3941]

Bob resembles Gerald a bit,huh?

[@chriswelsh8826]

Lovvve Mayer with the Dead!! Love Jeff with the Dead.. Hoping & praying I'll get to see Dead&Co again!!!!! Missing some live music

[@davidjtaylor1017]

I call them Mayer n company he steals the show every time Ive seen them which is a few times each time getting better n better but every one of them got skills n I appreciate there talent keep playing n I'll keep listening n dancing to the dead one love DT

[@jeffenglish9344]

Yes he is on a complete other level …

[@petermetzig]

The Dead is the best thing that ever happened to John Mayer. His playing has improved dramatically. This the best Dead version.

[@tannermullis6872]

He said on Instagram last year the band made him a better player & a better person

[@billwinter5267]

So good!

[@rorymcclellan3740]

The camera man dipping to catch john tweeking pedals on the fly at 3:28 was kick ass!

[@roberthodge7802]

A great song always needs a master of it's time John is the master now, long may he reign.

[@brigs369]

john boy second solo is one of the best ever put down on a guitar

[@cookingspicy6443]

And then transitioning out of the solo he flubs the riff that even my beginner ass can nail :(

[@sadsixersfan6258]

​@cookingspicy6443 you are officially better than john mayer

[@sonnyboybluesharpfargo8705]

My appreciation for The Dead did a quantum leap the last five years...their body of work is a neverending cosmic jam for the soul...

[@taylorlangley900]

Love that Clapton lick at 4:01

[@affordablepoolleakrepairs1005]

Jerry would be so proud is al ican say !!

[@Thomas-ew1ic]

It's so liberating for the soul to listen to REAL music. Thanks, and please keep do what you're doing.👍👍👍

[@TonyMacFarlane]

What are you talking about? These men have become a cover band of their own music.

[@ArienDH11]

@@TonyMacFarlane Cover or not the music is still playing Tony, get with it or get off the bus.

[@pumpkinking5174]

@@ArienDH11 Don't think the band would agree with your gatekeeping BS.

[@ArienDH11]

@@pumpkinking5174 im not gate keeping

[@ericwhyte9804]

@@TonyMacFarlane worst incarnation of the dead ever.

[@jakekoehler1]

Happy belated birthday Bobby and Johnny!!!

[@bwdelisle]

Amazing!

[@kjguitarman]

Absolutely fantastic version of this song. Dig the Mayer guitar style overlaying the slowed down tempo.

[@Tmrfe0962]

Like finding my favorite music all over again....Thanks J.M. For Taking This Further....

[@helmutbakker4140]

... Amazing !!! ... Großartig !!! Das internationale Publikum liebt Dead Company !!! ...

[@robertthompson3941]

My “Beother”,who was a ‘Head a long ‘time before me went to “see” ‘Dead&CO.,& he Enjoyd the Concert"

[@willsmusic7347]

The best version of Cold Rain and Snow since Jerry at Farm Aid in '86 🥳🔥🍄💀🌹☮️

[@shiltzy00]

Dead and company is the best thing to happen to John. The overall vibe of the band and the fans seem to have opened a side of him his past arrogance had trapped within. I enjoy watching his soul grow with this band.

[@kaseigunsou]

Exactly on point. He seems far more mature now thanks to them. As he stated in some interviews, Dead & co is about the band and the legacy, he has a part in it but it isn't all about him. I feel like this experience is his dream come true somehow. He's always been a blues old rock player turned into pop singer because you can't have a career in rock as you could have in the 70s. Dead & co is a way for him to get into the time machine and enjoy what he could have been back then when rock bands ruled the Earth. His last album has some great nods to his Dead playing. Wild Blue especially. People think about Knopfler but honestly, I feel he wouldn't have written such a tune had he not toured with the Dead.

[@chadb2448]

I couldn't agree anymore he's the next best spot filler obviously jgb and original when Brent was around to was a golden time these shows make me feel so happy I can't fill that feeling anywhere else🤘❤️⚡️💙

[@euaggelion03]

It has certainly humbled him. I think it's Mayer at his finest, and what's ironic is he had to take less of a frontman position to get there. He had to learn how to be a part of a band. He had to lessen himself to make himself more...

[@vickylane9723]

@@euaggelion03 love it

[@Acoustribute]

Not sure I would go that far. The stuff he did with Steve Jordan and Pinot paladino in the John Mayer trios pretty epic! Just give it a listen.

[@a1apoolleakdetectionandrepair]

This wAs years ago! Try outs !! Took over! Hopefully I see one day in the spere 😂🙌🙌😎

[@LeileeBaker805]

Still here🎵🌹

[@scottbegonias313]

Wait till y'all get back from Mexico to the Midwest and the East Coast! That cold rain and snow will be a reality! Enjoy playing in the sand.. cherish it ⚡

[@fuji4202]

One ☝️ my favorites. Dead Co last show in Irvine Meadows . 1st set opener

[@prime8nate]

Now that he’s is a very warm and humid part of the world, Bob Weir decides to wear pants.

[@willanicole6356]

LOVEEEEE THIS AWESOME 💛💙💟💙💟💙💛💚💙💜💟💟💙💛❣

[@abraxas511]

They are one of my favorite grateful dead cover bands going today.

[@bunnybeckman8029]

Chuck they r not a cover band open up ur eyes of the world !🤪😆😘☮️😱🪐👽❤️‍🔥💥☄️👻

[@abraxas511]

@@bunnybeckman8029 Oh, I thought they mostly covered music by the Grateful Dead. Sorry.

[@mikerinaldi7170]

​@abraxas511 can a person who helped create a song cover their own song? Wait a minute,... Are you a record company attorney?

[@BrianDesCombes-o8t]

I wasn't a fan of lil johnny until I took a chance on him, seeing him perform with Dead & Co. totally changed my view of him...simply because the way he plays, he truly shreds strings, 6-17-19 at Deer Creek, i was lucky enough to dose and i was taken back to the 90's, with much praise to the boys in the band, dream come true to see Bobby on stage! Ear opening to hear lil johnny play too, you made me a believer, ty for not playing body is a wonderland, that wouldve ruined it lol

[@BrianDesCombes-o8t]

This was actually one of the first few songs they played that night, I truly felt like I was in paradise, best feeling I've ever had at any show, my favorite music, and a crowd of folks just like me...most comfortable feeling in a long time

[@tdub2290]

John’s voice is so on point here…. And that solo…. Good Lord!!

[@bunnybeckman8029]

I love John’s voice also it’s very different than any others I’ve heard !

[@JamesBrown4ever1]

Meh, he sounds too much like Dave Mathews.

[@ericwhyte9804]

His inability to sing is my biggest problem with Mayer, which completely ruins it for me. It's just awful to hear him try to sing. Am glad to see dead and co go. Worst version of the dead ever

[@michaelhyduk8794]

Was at this one and it was sooo good. Got Backstage for Saturdays show & looking for the photographer to send me those picks! Thanks Prizeoooo!

[@tourhead]

Killer show! I went the next year and would have went this past January! Thanks for posting!!! -Nordy

[@jeffreyrauch5889]

Cant wait to go see them in Hershey pa

[@glenndavis6272]

See ya there bro

[@bunnybeckman8029]

I wish I could b there to c u young punks get it on ! 🥲😥😖😣😵‍💫just listen to the music not what u think they should sound like !

[@user-bh1mu3pz7b]

wish that there was no ads mid song! Be better youtube.

[@michaelwenzel1715]

@5:16 Jeff Chimenti is like, damn, I don't know what he is playing, but I like it.

[@kalleanka6937]

GD was in STOCKHOLM 1990, AND IN LONDON AFTER. i saw them i Stockholm GOOD

[@johnfarversr]

Works both ways. Was never a Meyer fan until tyis

[@barbaragill6066]

❤️thank you ❤️

[@Paul-mp2mj]

Nothing compares Can't be duplicated

[@bunnybeckman8029]

Billy is very happy to b able to keep it all going , I’m happy too ! ❤️🌹☮️❤️‍🔥💥☄️😱😵‍💫🐇🐰🥰🤪😍🤩😆🤣😍

[@stardumbspots]

One show in London, only One please ;)

[@augustwest6637]

Have D and C ever been there?

[@stardumbspots]

@@augustwest6637 never :(

[@augustwest6637]

@@stardumbspots have you ever been to a show?

[@hippiejohn334]

JRAD blows DSO out of the water !!! Look into it my friend ✌

[@gratefulmike58]

The only complaint I have about John Mayer is that he doesn't have a hippie hairdo ....

[@elmoblatch9787]

Yeah, his day job is a pop star, so he must have standards.

[@gregberry1812]

A few extra pounds? Maybe a beard?

[@danamcguire8895]

@@gregberry1812 😂😁

[@danamcguire8895]

😂😂😁😁

[@jonathancoller6188]

Go ahead and check him out today, I’m not sure if he’s had a haircut since quarantine 😂

[@elektriktomikmusiktechnik3092]

gehts noch langsamer ?

[@Mr2405007]

Remarkable

[@Nate-pz1rf]

Love seeing Mayer just being happy to play, I heard him say live that he “just writes pop songs to sell because blues isnt in the market or on the radio to make a living, but loves blues most” and it shows. He is a very competent musician and its funny when teens see him live and wonder why he solos for 10mn instead of singing the whole time.

[@ukelyptus]

I mean give the teens some credit here-they were mayer fans way before deadheads embraced him! Personally I didn't know much about him until dead & co. and now that I've given his pop stuff a try I like a lot of it too, even if he doesn't claim it it's pretty great in its own right

[@Nate-pz1rf]

@@ukelyptus But I still dont get why pop fans cant appreciate a great instrumental and how they want vocals constantly.

[@ukelyptus]

@@Nate-pz1rfI think it's just that instrumentals are harder to appreciate when you don't play yourself. anyone can sing along to a catchy tune even if badly. harder to engage with a great solo

[@bunnybeckman8029]

I saw John once on tv doing himself some good songs of his but I love him more now with the Dead& Co. Thank u Bobby weir for picking out the best to do what u do !! ❤️❤️🌹🌹☮️👽🪐❤️‍🔥☄️😵‍💫💥😱👻🤪😆🤩☠️

[@KevinChociej]

Garcia is the real Deal!!!

[@idahoolson]

there is only one jerry------ but the company is rocking it

[@spencermokrenko8833]

7:47 unbelievable...

[@goodkarma1967]

Are you effen kidding me here? John sounds AMAZING! I had been listening to the 72 version of cold rain & snow than an 89 & I stepped away, this video came up & I honestly thought it was Jerry for a minute there! Fantastic strumming!

[@glenndavis6272]

You got it man. Incredible

[@jg6698]

Gotta admit he sounds like Garcia here.

[@jg6698]

Saw them in KC in '72 after they got back from Europe. Fantastic show. Saw them in '73, '74 and '77. By '77 it seemed they were sort of going thru the motions. I "retired" with my memories of that original show.

[@mixaliskokkinos1496]

Buffalo '86..!!!

[@liangtao936]

i like dead and company the only thing that would have iced the cake in my opinion is to have a strong and adaptable lead vocalist with john and bobby further mixing up the impressive jams that they play themselves into and then their backing vocals

[@jg6698]

Glad you have no input. Some folks love to tinker

[@bunnybeckman8029]

I think they all just do very good at what at they do ! Music ! ❤️☮️🌹☄️💥❤️‍🔥🪐👽👻

[@Austinomical]

Anyone know what licks John is playing in the first little solo

[@aangb0b]

Best cold rain and snow imo, ngl

[@joeinnis6715]

no doubt my guy

[@pedrohgromero1]

3:22 "Hey, we did the same lick bro"

[@Bridgeknapek]

Great Jamming Mayer

[@josephquartaro6121]

Bobby, I have alway loved u.

[@bobweir1713]

Why thank you

[@gregz3775]

Oh my.... That is the SICKEST SHIT EVER!!!!

[@shaneboucher5431]

Already ready for 2022 tour and y'all ain't finished 2021

[@barbararosvold755]

5:31

[@bunnybeckman8029]

Whose Gerald ?

[@BillKinsman]

What is the "Il Brutto" shirt about?

[@donnaleefender2272]

Best version

[@petermillward282]

No Jerry. As we fade away. Soon all witnesses will be dead and gone. Deadheads tell no tales. Only the vinyl and grainy video may survive. My brother cried when he heard this song. I cried watching him cry. Going to where those chilly winds don't blow. God speed to your wishes. A song about what you have and what you want. Driven out into the cold rain and snow. No man can survive. Beauty in front of you preening. No respect. The trouble lies in you.

[@bunnybeckman8029]

Johnny is in a class of his own as Jerry was & I love it that he loves where he is ? Bobby did such a great job getting this band together & I know I’ve said this before but what would we have without him ? I think nobody could do what he does ! I believe in my heart that Jerry would b very happy with Bobbys choice , I’m sure we all r & if there is anyone out there who don’t think as we do then keep ur mouth shut !!!

[@drakeopdahl6584]

well shit this is just fantastic, might be my favorite of cold rain and snow!

[@chipzpix]

wow

[@dirkfoley1]

Wonder if Trey Anastasio was offered a gig?

[@gregz3775]

BEST.... SONG......EVER!!!!!!

[@LeileeBaker805]

🎵🌹

[@tbone2451]

Mayer can play any genre, and play it well

[@danmeehan5801]

Even Mayer would say he's no Jerry. He does it great and in his own way, but he leans way more Clapton/bluesish. Jerry had such a hybrid style blending scales and genres in a song. I still like it. But no one beats Jerry.

[@dbasstij512]

and no one has to "beat" jerry to make the music beautiful...

[@bunnybeckman8029]

Jerry will always b the man ! Nobody can play him !

[@spiderguy01]

4:05 feels so f*cking good , John can change the mood of the song whenever he feels like it

[@ericwhyte9804]

Yea sure , when he starts singing it goes straight downhill to crap. He shouldn't sing ever

[@miguel77077]

@@ericwhyte9804he has a good voice tbh, but he’s a member of THE Dead & Company mainly bc he’s a guitar god ,I haven’t seen anyone play Grateful Dead songs better than him (other than Jerry himself) the fans absolutely love him 🫡

[@sashamclean1119]

All About The Love

[@spyrosloukanikos347]

Bad Sound??

[@peterward9446]

*_Is Mayer playing a 3/4 scale belly-fiddle ... or is the dude over-size??_*

[@Faunover]

Mayer's a big dude 6'3" i think

[@peterward9446]

@@Faunover *_Damn! ... there's another stereotype blown away - giitara-meisters are supposed to be gracile, edgy, little guys ... all of the really great one's - Mayer excepted - have been sub-5'9"..._*

[@j.r.r.tolkee7000]

@@peterward9446 According to Google, Jimmy Page is 5'11.

[@peterward9446]

@@j.r.r.tolkee7000 *_Quite so... Maestro Page, is of course - the pluperfect exception ... underwriting the entire phenomenon of 'British-Exceptionalism.._*

[@MaynardOwns]

John is tall and has huge hands. Dude uses his thumb in a more innovative way than Hendrix in some songs.

[@thomassyverson7561]

A really fine version of this wonderful old hillbilly murder ballad.

[@samonellasgayclone1054]

When oteil isn’t smiling. You know it’s serious business 😎

[@julesmarable3965]

❣️💀❣️💀❣️💀 - 🥶 🌧 & ❄️

[@kaanolcusenler1900]

OH MY GOOOOD!

[@bunnybeckman8029]

I have to keep going back because I’m to busy watching the comments !

[@ewaldsteven]

Wow. John's solo in this is absolutely ridiculous. 10/10

[@ianmurawski8165]

Let’s see reasons I should play with this band one I feel like I’m a part of their family to it would be a great experience three I don’t think anybody realizes how hard it is to be in a wheelchair

[@michaelwenzel1715]

never heard a guitar slinger finer then HIM.... Mayer is GoD ....

[@whatajerkaquariums1854]

what about jerry

[@elmoblatch9787]

There are guys in smoky bars as good as Mayer. That's a fact.

[@bobbyrighi6329]

@@elmoblatch9787 LOL stfu

[@namcat53]

You have got to be kidding.

[@bunnybeckman8029]

There is no human that can b god u foolish thing that’s blasphemy !

[@jimijam48]

... Everyone's singing the praises here of the esteemed Mr. Mayer. I've always liked his playing from when he first hit the scene as a very young Gunslinger'... Being a veteran of nearly 100 Shows (w/ Jerry), and a handful Post-Jerry i find this a bit disappointing. This is the first time i've seen anything w/ John Mayer standing next to Bobby and Co. - so this is fresh perspective... C. R. + Snow was always a personal favorite - i've played it with my buddies' many times. I remember it mostly as an "opener" so maybe it was on this night ?? Might explain why John was reaching down dialing-in his effects pedals. And also why it seems a bit "stiff" at first - he really gets going (and warmed-up) after a bit... Obviously an amazing guitarist with mad skills, but seems a bit "ordinary" to me here - i expected More. (Someone mentioned "Clapton"), so yeah, chucking Clapton riff's w/ Bobby standing next to you and Hart and Kreutzmann' in back is pretty Ordinary. I would have expected a man of his talent and skills to do a little "homework" and capture more of Jerry's unique phrasing and style, rather than throw out all the same riffs' i heard not too long ago at the "Blind Faith" Re-Union. Oh Well... So yeah, great guitarist, one really sweet PRS guitar; nice amp-stack out back, playing great, no doubt: - just lacks something for this old-timer that misses ole' Captain Trips' a bit too much. At least John's eyes look a bit "glassy" - so he was having fun and his mind was in the right place !! ~ To everyone singing his praises, i apologize for sending a realistic cold-rain down on your Parade !!

[@RLMUD]

John is great, but what is all this stuff about him having Jerrys tone with the PRS, NOT EVEN CLOSE.

[@jahrojasexqsys5238]

Jerry Garcia's tone was definitely a singular thing born of his unique style, custom gear and of course fhe chemistry between him and the people he was playing with. That said, i think PRS built a damn fine guitar that i think captures the spirit of jerry garcias various custom built guitars...while at the same time giving jon mayer something he was happy with. I think thus guitar can serve as a sort of symbol for what jon mayer has done in D&C. Faithful and meticulously studiy of the source material while staying true to itself and the spirit of innovation and evolution that was such a big part of the Grateful Deads sound.

[@meandmyunclesbrother409]

JahRojas ExQSys I totally agree with you PRS makes some fine instruments and it really does represent John’s place in the band

[@rickerickson6169]

Awesome!!

[@martinwall7297]

greatest guitar player of all time to date! check it out yourself.

[@pumpkinking5174]

Yeah, ok

[@martinwall7297]

@@pumpkinking5174 next to Glen Campbell & Billy Strings

[@otismotis08]

Dude...David Gilmour says hello

[@michaelwenzel1715]

who will compete with Mayer , this Day's , Joe B. , E.C., Nuno, maybe ? He is the Best Guitar player out there right now. His skills and his variety is unique. He can play all Genres just my opinion

[@bobweir1713]

Eric Gales is something as well, mostly blues..I agree about Jonny boy! He is a gift

[@JohnBricksmith2048]

​@@bobweir1713 Someone knows what's up. Amen on EC. That boy has chops for days!

[@chlobear1840]

Holy Lord. John is amazing in many ways lol.

[@WilliamSmith-dg5re]

John came in with his guitar, not Jerry's. He'd his own artist, with his own style. He is not trying to be jerry or play his style. That is what a true artist does. That being said O HOW I MISS JERRY.

[@Phisherman86]

SMOKING

[@glenndavis6272]

Man that's good shit there. See y'all in Hershey 8/28.

[@ultra_toxic3131]

8:31 dO i sEe a SeTLisT thErE miCk boi

[@johnlerner9259]

Can I click “like” on this video more than once??😀

[@robertthompson3941]

I WAh that Jerry did NOT! (Alrhough, he did!)