Deadly Ambulance Crash Reveals Corruption Within Medical System | New Amsterdam | MD TV

[@justincase7848]

Makes me feel really grateful where i live we have a volunteer EMS that is funded by private community donations and staffed by many rotating volunteers. They have a system where volunteers take calls closest to them. Most calls dont actually need an ambulence so when possible they just use their own cars, which have EMS sirens. The system works so well that their response time is 2-4 minutes and often faster.

[@megazero952]

no, instead you wait 7 hours for an ambulance, and if you have a possible life threatening condition they tell you to pay for a taxi because the ambulance "is not a taxi service" so instead the taxis are the ambulance service so its a private ambulance service anyway

[@justincase7848]

I'm not sure what your referring to. I am referring to an EMS system that exists in the place where I live. It's called Hatzalah- it's a Jewish volunteer EMS. Feel free to Google it.

[@DRBx_UKx]

@@megazero952WHERE THEY LIVE, THATS HOW IT WORKS, THERES NO RIGHT AND WRONG IN THAT SITUATION BREV

[@patrickmcguire7896]

This reminds me of the pilot episode of a show called Knick. It takes place 1900 and ambulances would actually complete with others to get the person to their respective hospital, in the show they even fought over it with fists and bats especially if the patient was rich

[@creativehorsequeen]

The 1900s were wild

[@jazzycat8917]

Same thing used to happen with firefighters. Sometimes they'd be too busy getting into brawls with rival firefighting units to actually put out the damn fire

[@metalltitan]

They portrayed something similar in Gangs of New York with the fire departments being basically gangs themselves and fighting each other to loot burning properties and letting them burn down, while blocking hydrants so other squads wouldn't be able to put out the fire. Not sure how historically accurate that whole thing is, but it's bonkers to think about.

[@civilwildman]

I take it you mean "compete with others"?

[@hayleyyeager8008]

This is just messed up both literally and figuratively

[@tokyochannel2020]

It is a little complicated to explain but in NYC, EMS is not only operated by the fire department (FDNY) but also there are hospital ambulance units, volunteer ambulance units, private ambulance units and even a police ambulance. This is because the FDNY has always been understaffed and underequipped, it would be impossible for them to take on all the calls in the largest city in America. Thus all these other ambulance units exist all operating within the 911 system.

[@SantiHRod]

In other countries, where the budget for medical departments is low, and there's rampant unemployment, people started to make their own ambulance businesses, like not even big companies behind them that could make them professional, a lot are just amateurs that had just passed a first aid course, and carry the minimum equipment required by law. Some almost live within the ambulances they own, and do actually race with other ambulances, whether they're carrying patients or not. On top of that, private clinics and small private hospitals endorse this behavior by paying for the amount of patients they deliver, so instead of taking a patient to the nearest hospital, ambulances take them to the hospital that puts a bigger bid. A lot of this is taken from "Familia de Medianoche" not the series, the documentary, that follows a family that runs one of these ambulances within Mexico City, one of the most populated cities in the world, that's also one of the most insecure in its own country, a Country that has low medical budget.

[@vexxama]

“He’s one of us” “He shouldn’t need cover” “He’s never done anything like this before” Excuse me? What planet is she living in that she thinks that’s in anyway an appropriate response to his actions

[@lucidvibes8133]

She only defended him until the point where she realised he was transporting a non-emergency patient

[@vexxama]

@@lucidvibes8133 until she gets all the facts, even after learning he took documents and was lying about it, she asks whose side her coworker was on for point out his actions got a none emergency patient killed. She doubles down on being on his side because he works at the hospital, even when she knows he’s at fault

[@SandraNelson063]

Freema! Love her! A Beautiful soul!

[@DevinZA]

"C-Spine? What's that?" ....do they not have spine protection in this universe?

[@cunningsmile4166]

Who the F tries to pull out when they hear SIRENS!?

[@BS-hl9me]

Plenty of people don’t hear them in loud cities, and lots of times you also cant see the lights. Apparently American siren are on where there is less stuff in the way for the sound to travel, but the European sirens are better in cities with more obstacles.

[@michellealinateague9892]

Karens, Boomers, Deaf and blind drivers that cant see past their ego,

[@CommanderRedEXE]

​@BS-hl9me Untrue. They are VERY easy to hear even in cities. The real issue is people either just don't care here, or hear it so much they drown it out. Heck, as someone who gathered shopping carts in a grocery store parking lot, I've nearly been run over countless times because people simply don't give two shits about anyone else on the road.

[@joshthomasmoorenew]

You'd be suprised

[@coltonkoepp655]

@@BS-hl9me Not even remotely true the only way to drown out the sound of a ambulance siren, police siren or fire truck siren in the US is by blasting music so loud you go death they're about as loud as a tornado or air raid siren here heck standing next to a train horn as its blaring is quieter

[@joseescobedo7899]

This entire time I thought hospital run their own ambulances I don't understand why private companies for ambulances exist in the first place

[@rcairforceone]

For profit

[@jonyprepperisrael60]

makes me happy that I live in a country with non-profit volunteer EMS force

[@metropod]

Except that IS the non-profit EMS force… the EMS Bureau of the New York City Fire Department.

[@jonyprepperisrael60]

@@metropod sorry, meant to say that it is practically the only EMS force and so doesnt have to compete with private companies

[@o.h.8337]

What happens next?

[@TheMegaelectronic]

This is nonesense. Hospitals have more business than they know what to do with. Especially in NYC. Hospitals and EMT is understaffed.

[@patrickmcguire7896]

Yeah I was going to ask that. Are private ambulances really that big of a deal?

[@Beautylifestyle222]

Yes

[@elderliddle2733]

Yes, they are. Think about it: why are you charged for your ambulance ride separately from your medical expenses? Why is it so high? Because they are a private business. That’s why ambulance bills are 1-3k. They know they are needed and they Jack up the price taking advantage of the situation. These companies even have debt collection firms to chase those bills. Remember, hospitals do in fact compete. They compete for the skilled workers, the reputation, and that sweet insurance money.

[@pn2294]

@@patrickmcguire7896yes depending on the area

[@sjfrench8034]

@@elderliddle2733 When I started working at a hospital we had this orientation thing for all the new employees, and one of the things they showed us was other hospitals in our immediate area. It was to make sure we understood that patients had other choices and so it was important not only to the patients but to the hospital that we provided high quality care. Which is a fair thing to remind us of, but it definitely shows that yes, hospitals are competing.

[@Rogue_Centurion]

Bloom defending the paramedic because he’s a medical personnel is hilarious

[@patrickmcguire7896]

This whole scenario makes no sense even for a TV drama. I get them speeding to get the extra patient/customer but why would they go overboard speeding to get back to the hospital? The patient is already in the ambulance its not like they can get out and walk home, plus the guy's life wasn't in danger, yet the driver was going beyond the limit even by normal ambulance standards. It's not like paramedics are written up by how fast or slow they go as long as the patient is stable. Second what is the deal with this private ambulance argument? Maybe I'm missing something but seriously how big a deal is this? I've never even heard about it in real life just in another show 9-1-1 Lone Star.

[@strrts5135]

The private ambulance thing is real It depends where u live Not so much in the city but in the suburbs the ambulances are very spread apart so we need to use private ones Sometimes the politics of it get really crazy

[@sliestwheel]

If you bothered to actually fully watch the video he did it because he was forced to by the battalion captain who was also being forced by the new corrupt medical director.

[@Lorkanthal]

The faster they get him offloaded the faster they can be ready to pick up a new person. That is the reasoning.

[@fashiondiva6972]

Privately owned ambulance companies are extremely common, in major cities in particular (no clue why someone is claiming this pertains to suburbs). In LA and Las Vegas there are numerous ambulance companies, some with government contracts and others with specific hospitals. And they indeed do compete for patients; private companies need them for pure revenue and the government needs them to justify their ongoing budget. Your first question should be self evident from what I just stated. Patient turnover is critical to keeping their funding/# of positions and equipment, and for the private companies, it’s for their bottom lines. You seem to have missed the point of the fictional corruption since you didn’t understand the foundational facts re competition driving this kind of outcome-to justify their continued existence (a common motivation). Getting a patient in and out, i.e., to the hospital faster frees them up to go grab another patient (who may or may not require transportation via ambulance). The need to transport patients faster should be self evident.

[@dontworry9029]

@@sliestwheelthat still would never happen. No one is racing to get more patients, even for non emergent calls. No BC or MD could make that call. Plus these doctors would have no idea of ambulances “jurisdiction”. We don’t operate out of hospitals. They have no way of knowing whose district is whose. All they see is an ambulance dropping a patient off lmaoo. And it’s an incident like that, they will not have access to dispatch records.

[@sethcourtemanche5738]

Are private ambulance companies really a thing?

[@cozyninos]

Yeah we even have private air ambulance services. I can think of 2 private ambulance companies here as well. All pricey af and most would rather drive up to ER

[@SeinenNinja]

Yep, very rarely are they public

[@ClaudioProductionsX]

Yes. We hired that service for my grandma, since she's in her 90s and can't move from home, and we can't call emergency number for mild yet concerning matters (getting very sick, pressure spikes, etc). The public healthcare system here is overly-saturated. Private health care centers avg wait time is between minutes to an hour, public healthcare it's 10 hours average just to get triaged.

[@hjpop]

In my city, the private company was hired and paid several million dollars and they only have a response rate of around 40-43%, costing the city millions in overtime for paramedics. We are finally ditching the private and going back to the Fire Department covering it but that will cost millions more to get enough coverage again.

[@zerog270]

Oh yes, I worked in the Milwaukee, Wisconsin EMS system for years and it is horribly dysfunctional. On paper it looks great but the citizens are cheated out of the proper care by saving on taxes.

[@heatherschall6470]

I'm only on the 5th episode of season 1 in New Amsterdam so I kind of want to know what season this is from

[@yttrash565]

S4e7, they put it in the description

[@heatherschall6470]

@@yttrash565 okay sorry sometimes I have trouble with reading I have dyslexia

[@4rc4n3f0rg3]

@@heatherschall6470 dyslexia can be a pain in the ass at times. true?

[@heatherschall6470]

What season and episode is this from New Amsterdam

[@yttrash565]

S4e7, they put it in the description

[@DaDuran.]

Flashbacks from season 1 ending…

[@jjs1300000]

This is disturbing and thank god for the NHS.

[@metropod]

These characters in the video are all public health employees. The medical staff are New York City Health & Hospitals employees while the ambulance crews are Fire Department EMS.

[@UddiniHoudini]

There are still private ambulance companies in the UK, luckily it's all kept in order under the NHS.

[@joshuahudson2170]

I called for an ambulance for chills at 5:00am and no other safe transport. They measured a fever of 110 in transport. Is that fever enough? (I don't think that number was right either; but the Tylenol I took before departure kicked in while waiting for ER admit due to full ER and the fever broke and at admit I still had a 103 fever.) Why ambulance? Because I knew I could not drive and I was in no shape to call a taxi.

[@the_once-and-future_king.]

At 110f (43.3c), you're dead. Their thermometer was way out of calibration (or they had very recently used it to stir their coffee).

[@joshuahudson2170]

@@the_once-and-future_king. On the contrary, 115 is recorded as survived. I don't believe 110 was right; but neither do I believe it has no basis in reality.

[@the_once-and-future_king.]

@@joshuahudson2170 Survived, maybe, but not without severe long-term organ and brain damage.

[@newsallypurpleyt8609]

Interesting, sad, and cool vid.

[@FullTimePatient37]

I don't understand if anyone on Max's position would have figured it this QUICKLY..😅

[@unclelink]

When money becomes the driving force instead of service, the patient suffers.

[@tenjenk]

Martha Jones got to be a doctor afterall!

[@scottw6704]

Damn....

[@RetiredxiPascal]

All of us

[@Livywww]

Love me some MTV

[@jenniferdegrote3298]

MD TV?

[@Livywww]

@@jenniferdegrote3298 YES IM KMS NOW

[@jenniferdegrote3298]

@@Livywww KMS?

[@kbgregoire1]

I am 🤗

[@joeyjose727]

@@jenniferdegrote3298killing myself?

[@larry92adventure65]

Shouldn’t it matter if they get the hospital in general and there shouldn’t be a need to compete because you’ll never outdo another hospital because you can never have to many hospitals

[@civilwildman]

What'd the guy pull out of his pocket at 3:33?

[@songbirdglitch5859]

The report for non emergency.

[@finnsnow2495]

Music sounded like a zombie movie at the start

[@MsToniquica]

25 is almost over

[@arielleagustin8280]

Started this show because of Amanita

[@ShadowMoon878]

Thank goodness i live in a country where polyclinics, hospitals, specialist centres and the EMS are operated as non-profit by law and all are funded by the government.

[@niaharmes9256]

Can someone explain to me what is in the tissue the guy is holding @ 3:47

[@Domihork]

it's the missing report

[@niaharmes9256]

@@Domihork Thanks

[@michellealinateague9892]

Thats the report, the one that he was told to falsify. It proves that there is severe corruption in the hospital ambulance system. He was told if something happens, destroy the report.

[@andrewkemp6722]

Who’s here in 2069

[@NH-tb2sm]

2073

[@CreepyCorridor8525]

2077

[@xdiamond7157]

2099

[@scottw6704]

Ha! I used to roll my eyes when people would get excited about...meeting up in the KZbin comments section, like it's a place. Hey let's hang out in the KZbin comments section after school! ("Woo, party!" "I'll bring the 8 ball" "I hope my mom can come pick me up")

[@StracheyWade-i4v]

Martin Donald Brown Steven Lee Kimberly

[@griffinmartin5899]

that driver paramedic is a terrible actor

[@jazzycat8917]

He's acting out a man in shock, what is terrible about that

[@Bad__Juju1]

Who’s here in 2025

[@Bad__Juju1]

Me

[@Bad__Juju1]

Me

[@Bad__Juju1]

Me

[@RomantasyForever999]

It’s not even 2025???

[@louniece1650]

​@RomantasyForever999 I clicked 'like' before it occurred to me, it's still 2024. 😂

[@racersCompilations]

It’s not that big a deal honestly

[@donovannewman8462]

Well they got in an accident and killed someone, so I would say yeah it's a big deal

[@CCFrostbite]

@@donovannewman8462 unfortunately not really technically though the ambulance crew was not following protocol the driver pulled out in front of an emergency vehicle with its lights and sirens on so technically though the ambulance hit them the driver of the car would maybe be held responsible for not getting out of the way of an emergency vehicle and this is another extremely unrealistic show we’re all they care about is there own dumb ego it’s like that whole 911 episode all over again just with out the massive egos

[@donovannewman8462]

@CCFrostbite True, but you know the lawyers would say the driver of the vehicle wouldn't be able to hit the ambulance if they were not engaging in that behavior or out of their own jurisdiction. It's all so complex that the case can get bogged down in legal technicality very quickly.

[@JorgeGtz509]

Weak

[@patrickmcguire7896]

Yeah seriously how realistic is this? It seems far fetched that private ambulances are that big of a threat.

[@JorgeGtz509]

@@patrickmcguire7896 fr haha

[@ghostpup_]

tf

[@JorgeGtz509]

@@ghostpup_ weak or what ?