Deadmau5 & Steve Duda Explaining the Mixing and Mastering Process

[@Paromaster]

Joel is basically slowly turning into Rick from Rick and Morty

[@nunnukanunnukalailailai1767]

I will never get bored of these razer videos

[@urphakeandgey6308]

I think Deadmau5 and Steve Dude is an underrated combo. Even as just people. Interesting synergy.

[@Ast3rixMusic]

Really cool to see deadmau5 mixing. I really love the way he creates his tracks. Inspiration for sure!!!

[@jesse7591]

idk why i was about to be like "wtf why repost" ty for reposting , keep these videos alive

[@DelasVC]

This synth arp is actually magical!

[@EasyHeat]

Early 90's? I was an acoustic hardcore drummer. Did a ton of blow after hours at Greensboro NC's Ace's Basement w/ Sonny Moore before MDMA hit my brain & Daft Punk hit my ears. LMAO! Dom & Roland, Deiselboy, Dara, AK1200, Icey, Baby Ann... That was my shit back then. I freakin' love the Amen break! It's the tits!

[@TM-pi2rn]

yes even young people love the amen break its timeless and people still find new and creative ways to throw in the amen

[@Dramatello]

bro turned up the knobs WITH HIS HANDS on the synth and it's like my heart went WOWWWAA!! I'm not a huge fanatic of external hardware and I do believe that time is slowly becoming obsolete... but damn, that sound had a different tone to it.

[@PedraamJam]

Same here.

[@ZigZagProductionStudio]

Oh 100%

[@sutorilaszlo512]

Hardware synths never goes obsolete...

[@chicagoturntablism]

I agree 100% it’s sounded so good warm and full

[@Narz3000]

Damn I love these guys. Learn something new every time.

[@andretonelli]

4:46 Deadmau5 waveform actually looks exactly like it sounds. All bouncy and quirky.

[@thegeneration8299]

I love candid and honest content like this. I will say that I have headphones on while listening to this, and what I noticed when he did the 30-37 hz roll-off was just a touch more high end stood out naturally. When he bypassed, the perceived extra high-end sparkle disappeared just a touch. Nothing crazy or bad, just noticeable from my perception.

[@cbro444]

i'd be whipping that analog filter day and night. so tight

[@rodvik]

I appreciate the cut out the super low advice deadmau5 ❤

[@mr.player7104]

Yeah, even it gives us more freedom in headroom

[@Ohriel]

Deadmau5 talks like he's just _so full of this shit_ but still does it because he loves it

[@henriquematias1986]

Or because he wants the 💰?

[@Ohriel]

@@henriquematias1986 obviously

[@kilibecher]

I think he would just rather make music than sit there and talk.

[@walkernotte3019]

​@@kilibecherI think he's been doing a lot of 3d animation and development with unity which is hella more mentally stimulating than explaining the pluck lead synth from deadmau5

[@quantum_ocean]

I get the feeling that he doesn't' really love it anymore, and has become cynical about it.

[@dxboommusic]

GREAT SHARING BROTHER I THINK THIS WILL HELP EVERYBODY WHO WANT TO LEARN ABOUT MIXING AND MASTERING 🔥

[@DJ_JMMY]

Pink light in the background is sick 🩷😜

[@anonymousdcal]

Depends on your mix as well I'd say most just use fabfilter or eq8 low cut which will suffice could even add extra low cut eq on the channel thats causing extra unwanted low end. Theres ways and means about it if you're playing at tomorrowland!

[@AndiNovaOfficial]

10:08 He explains it as if this would be the most normal thing ever. Just go to your 100k+ hardware setup and push some knobs.

[@georgereasonproductions]

this is very well presented and will help alot of people well done you:D

[@Kadahor]

👍🏻 + fav. And its like a tuttorial about his best song. Thanks to both of you.

[@bgpjr1989]

what song is it?

[@Kadahor]

@@bgpjr1989 “imaginary friends”

[@theunconciousmind7314]

well the deadmouth pluck is a saw wave with a filter 😅 got me. one time i made chord of a detuned saw wave and i realized its exactly that same chord skrillex used in ghostn stuff in the melody. just a damn simple saw wave with detune 😅

[@Beatsbasteln]

This footage is from 2017 or so, so you have to take it with a grain of salt. still it would be important to discuss some of these statements, in case some true fans are around. it's not true that you gain headroom from lowcuts, especially not from steep ones. if there really was some rumble maybe, but it can do more damage if the material was already clean. not talking about phase. no one cares about phase in mastering and it also doesn't constantly matter in mixing. but resonant filters add peaks, which is the opposite of getting more headroom. you could use linear phase filters to not get peaks but then you got preringing, an actually audible artefact even. i don't wanna be a keyboard warrior though and deadmaus obviously is capable of creating great music with his methods regardless of if he's right or wrong about certain details. at the end of the day all that matters is that you make music

[@ShelcoGarcia]

mastering is all in the mixdown shixt mixdown shxt master!

[@wowerman]

Old video was posted years ago.Nayway good reminder

[@gabbajon5654]

most club systems wont go below 40 or 30 and if they do the engineer will probably use a subharmonic synth anyways so id definitely be high passing above those frequencies. Just be careful of the filter ringing ;)

[@williamfields]

The Engineers Filter mentioned is interesting, but be careful with really steep high-pass filters. They can cause a lot of ringing around the cutoff frequency, and they totally destroy phase relationships.

[@444Inlakesh]

Nobody understand curves except for the masters.

[@musicxtech6680]

i thought only the linear phase mode made pre ringing. does zero latency, steep cuts make ringing as well? 😮

[@williamfields]

@@musicxtech6680 Yes, absolutely. But it is post-ringing.

[@444Inlakesh]

@@musicxtech6680 yup

[@jaysundj]

might sound stupid but what do you mean by really steep?

[@DroneDrummer]

Man, I really just clicked on this to stare at the modular wall behind them! The hours that I would spend.

[@Nicklz5555]

Alright cool 😂🤓 class loved it !! Epic analogue synth btw 😁

[@SMac-bq6pz]

Can see who takes themselves seriously out of the two. Classic 'Bants' by the mau5 😆😆😆😆

[@PedraamJam]

I like his personality

[@Jay-407]

It still blows my mind that this guy is capable of making beautiful pieces of emotional music lmao he’s such a cold sob

[@soundfx68]

It was took down because part of not so Masterclass, this is probably part of a Razor sponsored segment, check the lappy :D

[@ItsWesSmithYo]

Nerd Out algorithm is creeping into my dreams 😎🖤🙌. Also, yeah just cut below 30, all good 👍🏽

[@mikasaarela6217]

this is nostalgic

[@DroneDrummer]

You have amazing latency removal on the modular, @Au5

[@soularslaps]

not to be to techy, but wouldn't you need a linear type of filter or eq to use so it dose not change the phase of the wav?

[@TUMM0]

I was thinking the same thing🤣

[@georgwalt7978]

steve duda is my hero. if nine inch nails hires you away from digidesign to be their tech, youre basically a god.

[@ackzz]

Great info, thx and cheers!

[@ivod.7137]

Won't a steep filter in the 20 hz area introduce phase issues?

[@You-ud2fp]

No not really. Not enough for it to suddenly become not mono compatible anyway

[@NoQualmsTheArtist]

Yeah but the phase shift is equal for every sound because it is on the master bus. Mastering engineers have been high pass filtering forever, just use your ears.

[@robbeservaes3625]

Yes it will, but not in the way phase issues are generally thought of. It won't change the phase relationships, since it's applied to everything, but it can increase your peak level by potentially a lot, instead of decreasing it, which would be the logically expected result. Using linear phase mode would prevent this increase in peak level, but would in turn introduce pretty bad amounts of pre-ringing

[@cryptochiefs4752]

Can do it with a linear setting on maximum quality to reduce this issue

[@robbeservaes3625]

@@cryptochiefs4752 all quality settings (at least in proq3) produce preringing, it's inherent to how linear phase EQ works

[@OperculumAudio]

I am envious of Steve's head of hair. Dude has the hairline of a god!

[@WilliamAshleyOnline]

Great video

[@ziggytonumaa]

8:30 😂i died

[@ShelcoGarcia]

when I mixdown and treat each stem I treat it to my ear then throw my chain on it then tweak my chain accordingly. Buuuut when its a single pre mixed stem yes things change.

[@jinnybeats]

Bro put ott on the master i can't believe what I'm seeing

[@aidanchan1693]

Ayy he knows Engineer's FIlter!

[@joachimg.5203]

Legendary guys.

[@ZigZagProductionStudio]

Absolutely!

[@tamasszabo361]

Duda István 🎉

[@lepureur4657]

A lot of engineers spoke about high passing everything and why it was not THE thing to do

[@JayM928]

Can you elaborate on why?

[@lepureur4657]

@@JayM928 it increases peak volume, phase shifting, you shouldn't do it by default, as any other treatment

[@fullyleaded]

Could you put the link to the original video please?

[@saidbv]

Nice 👍

[@ArawakMusic]

why is he using ott plugin when it's native on ableton live ? 🤔

[@TheHillsSocialClub]

Nice !👍

[@kanjimanji]

5:38 Isn't it beter to isolate and check only the zero-to-20Hz range instead of comparing full range with 20Hz+ and conclude there is no difference? That way you can "hear" what you are about to cut out.

[@jackumphreyiii5154]

I think the issue with that is you won’t hear much of anything depending on your sound system.

[@cd78]

pure genius

[@diffusives]

yea and steve duda created Serum , which is the most popular synth these days . absolutely 10/10

[@adammason1587]

8:45 the deamau5 pluck

[@andrewmaclean9810]

he put an OTT on his MASTER... either my life has been a lie or this was some lowkey xfer marketing back in the day. Either way my mind is blown lmao Also wouldn't creating a roll off at ~20hz create phasing issues unless working in linear phase. I'm not hating, I love these guys, I'm just wondering if some of this may be dated intel

[@innavision1920]

For real I thought putting OTT on your master is like a big no no

[@andrewmaclean9810]

@@innavision1920 Yeah definitely don't do that. Maybe you can find a case use for it or maybe it would work in some super experimental but highly intentional setting, but as a general rule HELL NO haha It CAN do some interesting stuff at a super low depth on some busses but on your master is just insane. I suspect Steve was just trynna boost his xfer sales w this

[@MelomanTheNerd]

It’s not an ‘every time’ - but you 𝒄𝒂𝒏 𝒖𝒔𝒆 it on the master buss, just roll the depth way down to, say, 4 and then slowly roll it up to 7 or 8. Wouldn’t recommend going past 9, however. It starts to give you too much of everything and 1k becomes extra hard sounding. Low end does some nice, cool sh** …Ymmv.

[@RicoLee27]

I think the OTT was purely for the synth layers only for the video

[@bimyo]

you can absolutely put it on the master, turn the drywet to like 10-20% and it works how they’re using it

[@ns3429]

GOAT JOEL

[@ZZRZT]

Hey guys, does anybody know what song's name is in the project? thnx

[@ZigZagProductionStudio]

Imaginary Friends

[@xtiper]

low cut at 20hz ? doesnt it create post ringing ?

[@cholkymilkmirage4984]

idk what post ringing is but I can oddly enough hear when he cuts the 20 hertz and toggles it. But it doesnt change or ruin anything. And it helps to do what they say ti does, Keep the spikes away from ruining the dynamic control

[@xtiper]

@@cholkymilkmirage4984 try to put that 20 HZ low cut on a kick, and watch the meter with, and without the low cut, you will lose like 2/3 dB of headroom, cause of the post ringing, cause as you know, an EQ will use the phase to process , and a low cut in the sub has a BIG impact on the phase and create post ringing and that's really bad

[@kevinlovelace6772]

Almost every eq decision you make adds post ringing. Rarely is it audible unless using extreme settings. When it is audible you can use a linear eq instead but then you’re introducing pre ringing. If you can not hear it, then the Benefit of gaining headroom in your overall mix can outweigh the cons the post or pre ringing introduces. Use your ears, not your eyes. If it sounds good, it is good.

[@cholkymilkmirage4984]

@@xtiper i looked it up, it happens with a linear phase eq. I dont ever use the linear phase mode lol only zero latency

[@xtiper]

@@kevinlovelace6772 totally agreed !

[@BTB88]

Alright cool

[@josephborderline]

He has a folder called "Secret porn folder". I guess that's where he keeps the good stuff.

[@EzComEzG0]

Mans has a chain called "Hats N SHIT" and "Bass Crap" @6:08 lmfao - LOVE it

[@user-gq6sf4si6j]

Everyone that meets deadmau5 says he is the greatest D#*khead to ever walk on 2 legs.

[@13Skribbles]

He has OTT on his master chain? Wow I never would have thought of using OTT in the master Very interesting

[@ZigZagProductionStudio]

I always have the OTT on my master, you do wanna be careful with the settings on it though

[@13Skribbles]

@@ZigZagProductionStudio yeah I would imagine because it’s such a powerful tool. I can only guess how much it must change the sound of the mix. So I have a couple questions for you then Do you add the OTT after you have started mixing or do you add your OTT and your master chain before you start your mixing? And secondly, can you go into a little bit more depth on the Settings that you do adjust and how you adjust them to tame it down a little bit? Thank you

[@ZigZagProductionStudio]

I'll do a video about this!

[@aadmzz7428]

yeah very intersting i noticed that

[@benjoe999]

If you want phase issues,do it 💩

[@P4nikStudios]

Poor Steve, mean Mau5

[@tuxievous420]

I can’t read the comments while listening to him it’s adhd at his fullest and dm5 is autistic leave him alone he works deep in the game and has accomplished more than anyone in the comments

[@djGreenALERT]

Don't get me wrong, I love Serum.. But.. when you use the hardware? The difference is just chalk and cheese.

[@SanplerVarondaro]

super

[@JoeyGodsey]

ight cool.

[@rolandbruegger4482]

30Hz and lower is called infra sound. At high enough volume, can send a human diaphragm into resonance, causing huge discomfort and/or rupture it. Its good to remove that frequency range.

[@Pbenter]

Just use the DADA LIFE Sausage Fattener

[@ABSENTAS]

10:00 god

[@кук-б2з]

bruh what venetian snares doin' with dedmaus?

[@dbdlor]

Definitely much more punch with that EQ cut on the lower end using galaxy buds.

[@v4nt4music]

Could you list the track name ?

[@ZigZagProductionStudio]

Imaginary Friends

[@v4nt4music]

@@ZigZagProductionStudio thanks homie. Should have known lol

[@stephenfegely]

Greetings Gentlemen 🙂

[@prototype9000]

you aint headlining unless you are redlining get rid of the limiter

[@jonnyk2091]

how old is this video?

[@VurseTV]

2016 I believe

[@ZigZagProductionStudio]

Yea it's from a while ago, I had the archive and decided to repost it

[@jonnyk2091]

@@ZigZagProductionStudio sounds good, glad to see it, my first time too! :)

[@jonnyk2091]

@@VurseTV thx

[@phaedruslykos3249]

dude reminds me of jim carrey

[@SOUNDINTHECITY]

@13:05

[@zpurpz]

This is the Cardinal sin of EDM

[@mindstuff417]

I get the impression Deadmau5 is annoyed listening to Duda's explanations. Duda is annoyed by the popularity of someone who doesn't care about the specifics. At the end he's like, can you act cooler...funny shit.

[@marcellkovacs5452]

You know they're friends, right? kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4C4nHxrna1lfrs

[@GooseTronics]

whens serum 2 come out?

[@poykehmusic]

3:35 Sorry Steve, but even on *the best, the bigger PA system* in the universe, you _won't be able_ to hear anything below 20Hz. Human ears only get to ear frequencies between 20Hz and 20kHz. And that's when you're not too old, cause it's decreasing with time. You can feel the physical tremors, though.

[@Kaotix_music]

they deff took it down because of the cursing at the end

[@lafoudrepasslafoudrepass5238]

I don't comprehend how this fool has so much gear but says Ill just use my plugins

[@okoiful]

this shit's hilarious XD

[@voodoogodfather7292]

making good dubstep isn't that easy to do in my opinion

[@Tumanic1996]

Anyone noice his arm ? 🦎

[@societylost4344]

Yeah bro start a band. Hire 2 keyboardists and a drummer.

[@Neuri]

Steve Duda knows more about things than you.

[@domitsunami2325]

“Way way more fatter”

[@ZigZagProductionStudio]

OMG I'm not sure if I should upload that one or not. Such a classic line haha

[@atrahlic]

Lol I barely learned today that Steve duda is a person

[@ZigZagProductionStudio]

He's a legend

[@SjarMenace]

Who tf uses a mouse like this. Just place the mouse right of you

[@Trentcast]

Couldn’t we have just had this with Steve Duda alone? Or perhaps literally any other amazing producer who knows what they’re talking about like? Like Noisia?

[@henriquematias1986]

It’s a razer ad not a producer’s video!

[@Mopark25]

No

[@keiomi5275]

This video looks explained from a kid that watched one youtube video about compression and mixing and still didn't realize what he is doing.

[@AndrosYang]

I like how duda realizes the audience after mentioning intersample clipping

[@SHRWM]

How many records have you sold?

[@karmatosed7211]

i lubs deadmau5 but dsoes the guy ever leave his house?? lol

[@bwhity]

i like how much he hates the music industry and hype around it, lol

[@JonathonConnorOfficial]

STEVE DUDA > deadblou5e

[@dallas-cole]

from something to nothing

[@Tom_the_great]

Dolby atmos is dead