Deanna Troi in Voyager - "Inside Man" Interrogation

[@alexanderholscher6548]

Girl: I know when someone is bluffing. Troi: bitch, I spent years playing poker with a klingon, an android, a man who could see through my cards, and commander Riker. My poker face could shut down the Borg. You never stood a chance.

[@dboymax1]

Troi: I also posed as a Romulan member of the Tal Shiar and faced down Romulan military commanders, even threatened them by execution. You have nothing on me. So try me bitch!

[@Tim85-y2q]

I never thought about how crooked that poker game must be until now.

[@junbh2]

@@Tim85-y2q I don't think they really played for anything real though

[@rconger384]

1:15 Do we really want a future where one mental health doctor can have an individual held "under arrest" without due process, even if the individual IS a prostitute? This is how totalitarian Soviet Union would remove "kolkosnics" from society. They would just declare them insane and take them away.

[@Xylarxcode]

@@Tim85-y2q I mean, it's a bit of a running joke that Worf is terrible at poker, often miscalling a bluff or folding when the pressure is on, Geordi swears up and down that he doesn't use his visor to see through the cards and Data similarly claims that he doesn't use his abilities to give him any advantage in the game. He could easily stack the deck or count the cards with a brain like his, but he doesn't. He's also terrible at reading people's intentions and underlying meaning. Riker is a master poker player, but beyond that, still just an average guy. They're people that *could* easily use their abilities to win the game, but they don't, most likely because they play it for fun in their off hours and want the atmosphere of their game to stay fun and loose. And yes, I am way overthinking a small detail of an old show, lol.

[@marvelboy74]

She impersonated the Tal Shi'ar, took over a ship and ordered the commander shot if she resisted. I wouldn't try her.

[@russell5078084]

marvelboy74 I think this is one if her best scenes.

[@milesmouse72]

and those were romulans...they're better than most for manipulation....

[@kaltenstein7718]

and not to forget she played poker against the great will riker.

[@insertanynameyouwant5311]

well that woman didn`t know Troi`s previous achievements

[@Vsm426]

They were so scared shitless too

[@betotrono]

Reg is not boring he's just cripplingly self-conscious

[@Menaceblue3]

In the words of Rodney Dangerfield, Ensign Broccoli never got any respect!

[@joeswanson733]

man that must've hurt being told to your face that you're boring and not only that in front of your counselor, your CO, and a 4 star admiral.... O_O

[@SovereignStatesman]

So why not take a Paxil?

[@flancrestenterprises945]

Honestly in Troi's place I'd have had to resist laughing in her face. Reg is many things but boring ain't one.

[@enikata7349]

Despite their history, Troi cares deeply for Reg. He's a good friend to her and the last thing she wants is to see him hurt. Being told he's boring would be crushing to someone in his mental state and Troi did not like that. So she not only helped the Pathfinder project, she also threatened someone who wronged her dear friend all without raising her voice or resulting to violence.

[@lauranolastnamegiven3385]

"without raising her voice or resorting to violence" - no, just by threatening to use her professional position as a Starfleet shrink to have a civilian(spy working for a non-governmental entity) locked up in a mental hospital (for a bogus reason, since Leosa had exhibited no signs of mental illness, nor any sign she was a physical threat to herself or others) indefinitely... how Fascistic is that? if there's a crime on the books for what she did, charge her, arrest her (at which point, I assume they have some form of Miranda, and she would have a right to remain silent and still not talk to them), try her, convict her, & imprison her, you can't (or shouldn't be allowed to) just 'lock her away' in a mental ward, uncharged, unable to defend herself, & therefore, unable to leave (evaluations would probably decline releasing her, since she never admitted she had a problem - because she didn't - and therefore they can't start to treat her) forever, because she won't tell you what you want to know...I can't believe, & I'm really disturbed, that so many commenters to this clip think what Deanna did is so awesome and wonderful, when it's really frightening & awful

[@Nillerus]

@@lauranolastnamegiven3385 you're reading into it too much. I completely agree with you, but remember: it's a TV show. Star Trek has dealt with fascism before, in this instance the writers simply failed to think of the structural implications of everything Troi said.

[@joeswanson733]

reg is utterly crushd. this just set troi back by another 8 years.

[@SovereignStatesman]

Yeah, TNG would never engage in torture for information.

[@dannyhouchinjr.4852]

@@lauranolastnamegiven3385 Who cares, the ferangi stole an item, twice, and she had knowledge of it along with what ship they needed to search for. In real life, if she had info on a scumbag child rapist, I wouldn't care if Troi had to beat the info out of her; honestly, I wish you people would stop siding with criminals all the time, contrary to what you believe, there are greater evils out there than being offended.

[@r0bw00d]

If only Deanna had been written this well in TNG!

[@jblyon2]

Agreed. There could, and should, have been so much more to her character. They failed Deanna like they failed Chakotay. Weak character development and writing. I'm glad it didn't turn Marina off from Trek, because she's an absolute riot at events.

[@r0bw00d]

@@jblyon2 She didn't actually mind being eye candy all that much, given that she had been a fat kid, or something like that. I remember in an interview a long time ago that she remarked on the erotic fan fiction with Deanna as the central woman that her inner fat self was going, "Yay! I'm a sex symbol!"

[@jblyon2]

@@r0bw00d I remember hearing her say that at some point. As a fellow fat kid (but without the thin adult part lol) I can't blame her at all.

[@Deadpool_64]

Face of the Enemy really showed her skill as an actor. She was a badass Romulan.

[@carolinehirst4921]

@@Deadpool_64 It took until Season 6 for her to get some real development.

[@Agent_1701-D]

She got the information without using her empathic abilities, solely utilizing her authority and powers as a counselor. And when she says "Try me", somewhere Will is smiling, and if he were there watching, he'd be thinking "And that's how you win at poker". Those poker nights on the Enterprise with the senior staff definitely sharpened those negotiating skills. Whenever I see this scene, I just smile, knowing Deanna has come so far from that first mission to Farpoint.

[@dboymax1]

Lets not forget her experience impersonating a member of the Romulan Tal'Shiar. She played her role perfectly..,.

[@Agent_1701-D]

dboymax1 That too! That mission definitely forged her into developing thicker skin very quickly - baptism by fire.

[@SovereignStatesman]

She got the information without using her empathic abilities, solely utilizing her authority and powers as a counselor. Yeah, Nazi interrogation, Real life scenario: "I WANT A LAWYER."

[@maxcardun]

And THAT is why she works on the Flagship of the Federation.

[@XivioOfTheGreen]

And the lesson we learned here, kids, is: Don't hurt one of Deanna's patients in front of her, especially one she has been putting years and years of time and effort into to help him overcome his social anxiety.

[@joeswanson733]

10 years worth of therapy wiped out in a heartbeat.

[@lauranolastnamegiven3385]

@@joeswanson733 then how effective was it, really? if a few cold words from a con artist could set him back so badly? isn't the goal of therapy, to eventually make one well enough, that they won't need it anymore? it's not, because the goal is to make money, and a cured patient isn't profitable (I'm talking real life, of course, not TNG-world), but it should be...if 10 years hasn't helped him any better than that, maybe Reg needs a new therapist, a fresh perspective

[@joeswanson733]

@@lauranolastnamegiven3385 i didn't say troi was a good therapist obviously she's not of reg still has some of his old frailties in place. Reg really has no business dating anyone as that con artist mentioned...he's too boring. We're talking beyond regular boring.

[@GodFlute2]

When Deanna Troi says, "Try me." She means it. I get shivers.

[@peterburke1709]

Likes she's saying don't push me bitch I'm a telepath I dated a Klingon once and my ex stepdad is a shapeshifter

[@trier4952]

Dabo girl or not, Troi spent years playing poker with Riker, Worf, and Data...she developed one HELL of a poker face.

[@tanall5959]

That's no poker face. You do NOT mess with Troi's friends!

[@xsailor85]

trier4952 And she was very pissed.

[@casey6556]

Evidently after years of not being taken seriously as a bridge sidekick Troi is sick of everyone’s shit “Try me”

[@chrispeplinski7306]

I wish Deanna appeared more than three episodes on voyager.

[@kennethk.3816]

All those late nights on the enterprise playing poker, really paid off.

[@Agent_1701-D]

Playing in Riker's regular poker game on the Enterprise will teach you how to bluff...and how not to.

[@heidiwilks5316]

I don't think Marina ever looked better than in this episode...and she was 45 in this. Wow!

[@ReddwarfIV]

Probably because she looks good in a uniform. Her outfits in *TNG* were just daft.

[@joeswanson733]

i also noticed the same thing she looked best from 1993-1998

[@bozotheclown169]

@@joeswanson733 when I saw Generations at cinema and Troi appeared on screen two guys sat behind me went 'thats that Troi is it phwor', the other went 'i know she's f**ing lovely intshe' 😄

[@JanetStarChild]

@@ReddwarfIV Agreed. Also, her hair style here is a lot more flattering than what she usually has in TNG. Marina looks fab with bangs.

[@PureLimbic]

She must have gotten over Reg's Goddess of Empathy character. ' "Muzzle it."

[@skanthavelu]

Troi was pretty angry after seeing herself in that image.

[@tmmaston]

When she saw that, the look on her face was priceless.

[@aggressiveattitudeera887]

Had no business being in there in the first place. What she saw was not meant for her eyes.

[@TaliaIGhul]

Don't fuck with Deanna or her friends. Ask Shinzon.

[@valiatus6719]

Combat may not be Troi's area of Expertise but Fear, Manipulation, and Physiological Warfare are. Very dangerous, Nice.

[@christopherreed4071]

she was fab in voyager, loved having her in that show

[@dboymax1]

How about Dwight Schultz as Reg Barclay? ST Voyager really allowed the character to shine more...

[@kirishima638]

I loved Barclay's character because he proved that not everyone in StarFleet was a stuck up mannequin in a fancy uniform.

[@JonathanLundkvist]

As Picard himself said: "Its too easy to just transfer away your problem with glowing recommendations". I wonder how Barclay got his shore appointment.

[@Kartissa]

Glowing recommendations based on *actual* exceptional service. Also, hadn't the Enterprise-D been destroyed in Generations by this point? Barclay's shore appointment may have started out as a temporary assignment while waiting for a new ship, but became permanent.

[@kevinjasper6620]

Barclay is a genius that thinks outside the box.

[@SalinaMoonfall]

Even if she couldn't outright hold her for "extended observation" Troi was giving her a look that screamed, "I'm going to make your life hell anyway I can if you keep pushing me.".

[@scottbridge9391]

Don't mess with Deanna Troi!!!

[@twintailMedia]

The bigger the smile, the sharper the knife.

[@BThietje]

Rule of Acquisition #48.

[@jacobbradford7229]

@@BThietje Just remember Rule 190.

[@AtlasBlizzard]

Deanna was a better character in three episodes of Voyager than she was in the entirety of TNG.

[@skynetprime82]

"try me" that was insanely hot of counselor troi ❤

[@TheSilverPhoenix100]

Uhhh why did we never get this Troi on TNG...all we got was an incompetent person who had no business in Starfleet much less on the bridge of the flagship

[@BOLANAREDE321]

On TNG she was such a fluff character. I mean, they didn't even require her to be in uniform, which was ridiculous! In this scene she looks like a professional counselor who works for Starfleet, not just some pretty face to sit next to Picard and say "he feels bad."

[@Mintylight]

Because 80's & social expectations. Same reason Troi and Crusher smashed pots over peoples heads instead of sword fighting in the Robin Hood-episode, ironic as Sirtis & McFadden being two who had experience of sword training. Social norms has unfortunately cuccedeled up a fair amount of characters from being what they should have been. Though I think psychologist always have a place everywhere as mental health is the basis of everything important, I never understood her place on the bridge. She should be in her office, like Dr Crusher, unless certain circumstances called for her presence. The writes admitted they didn't really know what to do with her.

[@histguy101]

Mintylight She was supposed to be the ships counsel, as in, she counselled the captain when he was making important decisions. And since she could sense other people's emotions, she could help him communicate with alien species.

[@DEP717]

Check out an episode called "Face of the Enemy." I think Jellicoe must have got her fired up after his pep talk.

[@DefLeppardVanHalen]

Actually, it was a two-parter called "Chain of Command." "Face Of The Enemy" was where Troi was disguised as a Romulan.

[@ThePathStrider]

Nothing like calling someones bluff to make them go through with it.

[@TheDrowWarrior1]

1:22...extended as in, You will NEVER see the light of day again

[@Deadpool_64]

Weird how her scenes in Voyager, gave her more of a character that actually used her skills as a counselor, than 7 years of TNG. It's nice when the writers give a fuck about her character.

[@UncommonKnowledge587]

I never knew when I watched this years ago but Reg is an introvert and sensitive. Given the correct treatment he could really shine.

[@Three-Headed-Monkey]

"I work a dabbo table. I know when someone's bluffing." "I play poker against the first officer of the Enterprise, a super intelligent android and a Klingon. Try me."

[@wkcia]

Also, a guy who can literally read the back of my cards with his glasses.

[@hiddenrangerstreaming7350]

@@wkcia If they all truly applied themselves at poker, every single person at that table would be playing on Legendary Difficulty.

[@nortski78]

Remember, Troi is a gun poker player, so no you can not know when she's bluffing ;P

[@stratfordbaby]

I think Adm. Paris didn't even know that Deanna was half-Betazoid.

[@bfdia51]

Troi is much better written here than tng. In TNG the main bad guy of the week would be screaming on the view screen in anger and Picard would turn to troi and she would say "I sense great anger." Like no fucking shit

[@luizfcavalcanti]

hell... it is rare to see Dianna like this...

[@dekablueranger]

YEEEEOOOOO! The way Troi said "Try me" at 1:36?... Epic. Freaking. WIN!

[@trapperjohn6089]

0:20 the second that the momma bear instinct kicked in with Troi.

[@FailSonOfAnarchy]

0:18 Like how Troi's expression is like "Oh you done fucked up now".

[@chrismc410]

"And now you will find out"

[@Jbluez1]

As soon as the Admiral leaves, Deanna just starts punching her 😂

[@thecowboyofoklahoma5866]

"You work a Dabo table, I'm in love with the best gambling human in this century." -Internal thoughts of Deanna Troi "Try me!"

[@JasonL77]

As soon as she said “He’s boring.”, Deanna was like “Alright, this bitch is toast. She just tried to humiliate a man I treated for mental health issues plus is also a former crew mate of mine. She needs to be reminded that you don’t mess with my friends.”

[@peterburke1709]

Trois hard look says don't push me bitch I'm a telepathic and I dated a Klingon once. Lol

[@samwiseg1972]

Poor Reg.

[@NPCSingularity]

Troi, pulled an old Bruce Wayne right there. Nice!

[@hungram5170]

Taking a moment to acknowledge what a smoke show Marina is in this scene.

[@luckymouse1988]

A bit sad that they never picked up the Barclay hologram on Voyager story element anymore. "The Ferengi messed with it the first two times? Alright, shelve the whole idea then."

[@Kyrieru]

I wouldn't even call the writing in this scene that great, but Marina definitely seemed like she was allowed to play Diana with more emotion here. Feels like she was probably limited by a direction to sound calm all the time in TNG, so scenes like this where she's a bit vengeful never crossed their minds.

[@mjlawlor40]

OMG I've never seen this episode. What the? I thought I'd seen every episode. GOD I've seen them all dozens of times over. But this one. Eeeee crickey. Maybe there are others too. Ohhhh I'm so excited now. 💚💚💚💚

[@matthew8153]

How have I not seen this episode?

[@adriantownsend2317]

... Forget Picard, we want a Troi series!

[@joeswanson733]

and marina sirtis will fly back here in a heartbeat if offered a troi series. apparently one of the 2 reasons she moved back to england is she gets more acting owrk in england and apparenty trump triggered her enough for 4 yeras to send her packing.

[@aaronmehaffey6251]

0:14 Dwight's over here like "That's it, I'm out. Hey Marvel, you making another Spider-Man game?"

[@MsUltrafox]

Poker tip #1 Know when somebody is NOT bluffing.

[@rhas356]

So...the Federation permits extended mandatory psychiatric holding (we'd call it "Sectioning" in the UK) off the basis of one therapist's judgement in a case where she has a major conflict of interest? Concerning. Deeply concerning.

[@Hotobu]

I pity da fool dat try to steal Murdoc's hologram!

[@hiltonlive32grnrngr]

@Carpentersfan2003 AND in "Thine Own Self" when Riker pissed her off by cancelling her exam, AND in "Power Play" but she was possessed in that episode so I guess it really doesn't count.

[@Herowebcomics]

She has still got it!

[@Jerry74]

The look Troi gave when Barcley left hurt...Oh you gonna get it!

[@gamecock86]

@bamapagedesign Well she only visited him at Reg's request- needing help between Dr. Zimmerman and the Doctor in "Life Line" and counseling him during "Parthfinder" and they were friends on the Enterprise-E and he left shortly after Star Trek First Contact.

[@DrewPicklesTheDark]

Is that admiral the lizard admiral from the V miniseries?

[@MegaManDBZX]

Admiral: I don’t think therapy is what she needs. Diana: That’s fortunate. I’m actually very bad at my job.

[@JesseBath86]

Indeed. :) Try Juliet Jurot (in Star Trek: Voyager - Elite Force). If they were to keep casting her, at least as a guest appearance in several later Voyager episodes, then it would most definitely be that... ;)

[@cassidystarchild7907]

Wow, Troi went Big Brother in a hurry. Maximum fascism, engage!

[@davidlindsay131]

Why is it flickering?

[@demarcusfaulkner7411]

don't mess with troi

[@hefito3d527]

gail will defend my rights over people treating me like a fool in santa monica

[@chrispeplinski7306]

Too bad deanna didnt make another appearance in the finale.

[@msinvincible2000]

We ALL are in love with Barclay!

[@ashkrikorian5753]

just admit it, that scene with the two of them was damn sexy!

[@ProLogic-dr9vv]

It was bad enough that he was clandestinely referred to as a vegetable by Wesley Crusher on the starship Enterprise NCC-1701-D then she comes along and says he is boring. I hope Counselor Troy tore her a new one. OH Wesley only meant for it affectionately ,, that blond is mean.

[@dboymax1]

Well keep in mind there are many TNG who hate Wesley. I would have loved it if after being bugged by Wesley too many times Reg would get pissed say "Shut Up Wesley!" Heck even Picard and his own mother told him to shut up!

[@joeswanson733]

and years of therapy just went right down the toilet in a heartbeat.

[@2Scribble]

I want every TNG fan who posts memes about Deanna being a 'bad consular' and 'useless' to be forced to watch this scene on a loop :P xD

[@HariSeldon913]

Perhaps, but I bet Guinan would also have been rather effective here.

[@neallariviere3902]

go get her deanna.

[@xsailor85]

neal lariviere Show no mercy.

[@jamesmcburnie]

@bamapagedesign Hello, wasn't constant, she only helped him briefly in these three episodes, was on the Enterprise E permenantly.

[@MikinessAnalog]

Reg may not have been her BEST friend, but she knows and cares when one of her friends is being abused mentally. Troi shut that crap down.

[@joeswanson733]

and years of therapy basically went down the drain in a blank of an eye.

[@creatip123]

Troi: 5 minutes, admiral Admiral: ok, 5 minutes Troi: listen, you little b*tch, you either confess to me, or you will deal with a vulcan named Tuvoc. He will mind meld the shit out of your brain, until you constantly crap your pants 24/7 for the rest of your life....

[@Mxyzptlksac]

I know when people are bluffing Try me… I was scared an entire Romulan crew I to obeying me. I was so tough they thought i was Tal Shiar

[@HariSeldon913]

Troi: Computer, replicate a bullwhip and play index 97.3 of movie "The Wicked Lady" on the monitor.

[@The.Badger.]

Troi taking no shit!

[@YoudontknowMimi]

"Try me" *drops mic*

[@YD-uq5fi]

Too bad they didn't figure out how to make Troi useful until after TNG ended. The three Voyager episodes was the most she could get.

[@faridabassi1713]

How do you say in Klingon bad-ass

[@farceadentus]

What happened to her next gen accent!?!?

[@mauriziopuddu4734]

Richard Herd from V.

[@notlisztening9821]

Hey, thats brokoli in the end

[@herbertmckenzie4710]

Love it!

[@NOTHEOTHERGUY]

"Try me". Tastes like chicken!

[@jaspervlogt3843]

Ahh the old everything tastes like chicken joke. Even in the 24th century it never gets old.

[@pjosepha]

Who wants to play poker with this girl? All gangsters: I fold All married men: I fold All pimps: I fold Seven of nine: call. All in

[@brianellinger6622]

I told you...

[@chrispeplinski7306]

Deanna still looked good here but looked bad in nemesis.

[@chrispeplinski7306]

In nemesis she looked ragged. Whereas here she still looked hot.

[@YD-uq5fi]

+Chris Peplinski Aging happens in steps. It is not a linear process. People can look the same for 6 years, and then age 6 years in a year.

[@chrispeplinski7306]

+Brian Wigglesabit i can say the same about you.

[@yvesnyfelerph.d.8297]

They are the Avengers?

[@chengmunwai]

0:10 - 24th Century R3d/Bl4ck pill realities.

[@jamesmcburnie]

@jajwhite There's no episode like that no. :) Maybe you're thinking of a book or DS9.

[@hefito3d527]

and anastasia pearls pillay will also be judged by gail marie bireline so anastasia will no longer be a threat to me and alienships too

[@5of12]

dabo is a roulette equivalent there's no bluffing in it am i the only one who sees how fricked up this is

[@ancan963]

I like Deana in this costume. A lot more elegant than that leotard in TNG

[@Der_Dolmetscher]

It always frustrated me how Troi, Crusher and Worf were written in TNG. Even in the films, they didn’t have much to say. DS9 saved Worf. Turned him from a two-dimensional into a three-dimensional character. Troi was far more decisive and stronger on VOY. And I hope this season of Picard does all three justice.

[@robjackson5245]

LOL Troi got to sides to her. I feel like in "TNG" Marina was playing her character. Here it felt more like she was, minus the belief in mental hospitals, pouring her "bro"-saying non-white Greek self into this. The way she says "Try me" is not white. That's like Hispanics (although Greeks aren't Latin hahaha). It's like she it hard big time. She went ghetto (and no being ghetto is a Latin thing, not a black thing).

[@edusuntrebor]

@KrupyFren Maybe she meant she's seen bluffing in the casino environment.

[@littlehouse15]

woah, that doesn't sound like Troi at all. Marina really lost her accent in this one.

[@jamesmcburnie]

@jajwhite There was no episode like that no, maybe you're thinking of a book or DS9. :)

[@Idas203]

Reg is basically me 😭😭