Dear Santa - The Cinema Snob & The Nostalgia Critic

[@konstance13]

It's so weird how lifetime and hallmark fetishize widowers. Like, "Mm, your wife died and you can never love again? Your grief is such a turn on."

[@HylianFox3]

it really is beyond creepy how all these movies revolve around "I am the one who can totally make you forget your dead wife"

[@findyourcenterbbc8483]

I think it is the christian mindset of divorce is bad unless your spouse cheated on you.

[@samflood5631]

Couldn’t there be a movie where a guy falls in love with a women going through a really bad divorce but the asshole husband tries to get back together with his ex wife because he’s jealous of the main character. It could be the other way around with a woman falling for a guy whose girlfriend cheated on him without realizing that he’s using her to get back on his girlfriend for breaking his heart.

[@PurpleMoonFlute]

I think it's a religious / societal thing, like you can't be taken seriously if you weren't married by a certain age and if you ever got divorced. Also, people can't just be single and never married before? Is that such a bad thing??

[@DarkEclipse23]

@@HylianFox3still better than people fetishizing decapitation, murdering, shit, and farts.

[@mynameaintyourbusiness7148]

So lemme get this straight: this is a movie about a spoiled rich brat who intercepts a kid's wish list and decides to stalk/break a perfectly functional family while villifying a woman who has done nothing wrong??? How is that charming?!

[@ashleyupchurch5395]

My Name Ain't Your Business Because the little girl says so

[@AngelofMusic04]

Like the Nostalgia Critic said, because "A Very Play Misty for Me Christmas" doesn't look good for Lifetime/Hallmark.

[@zuttoaragi8349]

Because there are a LOOOT of women who view it that way. The idea that they have no skills, no talents, and no real benefits to bring to the table but "who they are" is good enough to make a guy drop everything for her.

[@Nicamon]

Because Amy Acker!💖💖💖💖

[@HylianFox3]

Even worse, she's not doing this because she really loves him or whatever, she's doing it so she won't lose her allowance. Of course she won't get a job, that's too hard.

[@Dream0Asylum]

Plot twist; the mom and dad really didn't go on vacation - they just set up a green screen to avoid their sociopath of a daughter and have a happy Christmas for once.

[@lightfurredbadger8536]

"And he's a fucking cannibal'" I love you Brad

[@Thegr8MC]

What is it with all these chick flick movies having the girl trying to get with a guy who is already engaged or dating someone? Why the fuck would any woman want a man who would readily dump someone he was dating for a long time and about to marry for someone he just fucking met!? How could such shallow relationships ever be considered romantic!?

[@jasmineneal5005]

I agree

[@Jt1Torso1Winabego]

It's pretty fucked up when you think about it.

[@Sloth7d]

The Great MC As much as I don't care for Hallmark and LifeTime movies like this, I don't think it's always so black and white. What if that person legitimately is "the one" that they get a connection with and they are in a dead-in relationship. I think there are better ways to go about resolving such a conflict than a movie like this suggests, but it can happen, right? It's possible.

[@theblocksays]

What was it Chris Rock once said on his stand up? "Women HATE other women, when a woman see a happy couple and finds the man attractive it's, I gotta have THAT man!" LOL

[@michaelconnell1010]

Suddenly the popularity of NTR makes more sense...

[@Salixa456]

This movie's protagonist is what every crazy home wrecker thinks they are IRL.

[@chrisgostanian6753]

Lifetime seems to be bipolar in that regard. Half of their movies are about how the homewrecker is a wonderful, unique snowflake who deserves to get "her" man, and the other half are about how every woman you let near your husband or kids is a homewrecking monster who will murder and usurp you.

[@mathieuleader8601]

passive agressive

[@Salixa456]

Chris Gostanian Preach. I think they were trying to go for something kinda like the relationship in Enchanted, but forgot to make her genuinely charming. And they didn't try to demonized the fiancé for no reason...

[@PosthumanHeresy]

"Home wreckers" don't exist. Shitty men exist. Your husband/boyfriend/regular jizz injection has free will and doesn't have to leave you. It's not like women have mind control powers. If the guy you're with leaves you for another woman, it's his own damn fault for being a pile of shit. Don't blame her that you dated a shithole.

[@PosthumanHeresy]

ShadowWolfRtL I suppose, but I've usually heard it to describe success, not just attempts.

[@BigK13372]

My god, it's like the writers of this movie were trying to adapt the song "Every Breathe You Take" by Police and completely miss the subtext that it was a stalker song.

BigK13372 Besides, didn't Sting say it was an "evil, nasty little song?"

[@BigK13372]

QueenVoltalia Exactly my point. Even with the singer himself stating how fucked up the song is, the writers will still believed that it is a loving romantic; thus missing the point.

[@hippymad1]

Subtext? It was overttext.

[@seigeengine]

To be fair, that's what happens when you make something sound a way it isn't. Plenty of popular songs are misleading that way, where if you don't really pay attention to the lyrics, it sounds like something very different from what it is.

[@a999op]

The original writer said that is wasn't suppose to be a stalker song. So actually they weren't really missing the point. It was suppose to be a romantic song but it sounded like a stalker song. He did not make the song like that on purpose.

[@FlickorTreatProductions]

Last week I was watching an 80s psychological horror thriller about a guy who secretly hides in a family's attic and he was a much more likable and sympathetic character than this lady.

[@DarthRushy]

Will's Genre-Rama What was it called?

[@FlickorTreatProductions]

the smoking dad That's the one. It's a really good movie.

[@geoffreysorkin5774]

@@thesmokingdad4413 I thought it was Bad Ronald. They remade that one, the remake was called The Boy And then I remembered Bad Ronald was from the 70s

[@eggmannega6895]

My question was going to ask if it was that one with Robin Williams.

[@BlackburnBigdragon]

Let's see. The protagonist commits a federal crime and then proceeds to stalk a guy and his daughter, who conveniently have a dead wife/mother, and is engaged, and then inserts herself into their lives, breaking up the guy's relationship with his fiance and ruining his fiance's relationship with the guy's daughter. And Lifetime expects us to think that this is romantic. Really???

[@vectorequinox6202]

Its clearly a horror movie and Lifetime missed the point.

[@fpp9183]

Perfect! Just forgot to mention that she was worried all the time about mother cutting of her money....

[@johnathanholmes1297]

Well... She didn't have a good relationship with the daughter.

[@yousefhussein9061]

BlackburnBigdragon that is the most romantic thing I have ever heard the writers get relationships

[@irradiatedkrill2012]

Crystal: Here, Olivia! Have a shopping spree and some ice cream! Now who do you like better, me or Jillian? Olivia: You're the best mom ever!

[@cookiemocher388]

The gay sterotype could of been done right if around the end they made this joke, Kristel says something about him being gay, and then the gay best friend said "what?! I'm not gay!" "you-you're not?" No!" "But the way you a.." "oh, so Just BECAUSE I WEAR PINK.." and then he went off crying, and never showed up in the movie again

[@TheFrugalVideoGamer]

Or take a page from Patton Oswalt's book and have the character be absolutely clueless about how to get the guy. "Uh, fuck it, blowjobs, I guess? Guys like blowjobs, right?"

[@Azazreal]

@@TheFrugalVideoGamer That would indeed seduce me

[@BlackburnBigdragon]

The writer was pretty much like. "How can I make the plot of "Fatal Attraction" romantic? and failed miserably.

[@Grabehn42]

I just lost it with the "cameo" line. For some reason I just love seeing the NC's dad on videos.

[@danielryanmulligan9381]

Barney Walker is the single(1) greatest actor of all time, plain and simple, no contest!!!!! Dan aka…ps on this point, anybody who disagrees with me, is a big, fat, filthy liar!!!!!!

[@gRinchY-op5vr]

the only Real flaw you could argue Jillian had was she cared for the guy during his grief purely to be his next wife at some point - and even then thats not fully implied outside of Crystals "that makes two of us" line about lying... even then that just means the guy shouldn't be with either woman!

[@joecollas9942]

gRinchY 230490. think its she was there for the good and the bad. The other chick thinks he hot and got to have him no matter who she hurts on the way

[@gRinchY-op5vr]

Joe Collas that's pretty much what i got from this, just seemed like they added that one scene to imply she's got an agenda too which failed miserably

[@jackwells8107]

Without seeing the movie, I felt like Jillian had two flaws - she was pushing for marriage, in what was really just a friendship, and she was wanting to marry someone with a child, but not bothering to make a good connection with the child. What's-his-name should probably have been a bit more careful about why he was getting married, but that didn't really make Jillian a villain.

[@gRinchY-op5vr]

@@jackwells8107 I haven't seen the film either, from the review we only ever get Jillian talking about the kid rather than to the kid or spending any time with her. She did seem pushy when I'm not sure (again not seeing the film) if they are actually in a relationship or if they are just friends, you are right that even with these flaws she's no more a villain than Crystal is and the dad should just not be with either of them if that is the case

[@julieporter7805]

Especially the line about how she held his hand at his wife's funeral. It sounded like she was even interested in him while he was married so I'm not sure that they aren't the same underneath, both such awful characters.

[@Blueleaf11]

So the moral of the story is that the key to true love is lying, stalking and manipulation. And only do nice things if you get some kind of reward for yourself. God bless us everyone!!!

[@Mr_Bunk]

I'd like to think that Fat Grandma didn't actually catch Hitler, but some random thief with a toothbrush moustache she mistook as Hitler.

[@stephenmarco2927]

I like to think she mistook fdr for hitler and that's why he could never give a speech standing again

[@gRinchY-op5vr]

Mainly because Fat Grandma would be the end of Hitler

[@kaatyblue]

Doug and Brad together are like peanut butter and jelly.

[@brianstraight9308]

No, no. Peanut butter and chocolate!

[@gmanz8487]

I think so too!

[@yourfavoritegames4971]

Well Brad’s the only one left so it makes sense

[@gmanz8487]

@@yourfavoritegames4971 How?

[@yourfavoritegames4971]

Mordecai Harmon everyone else left and Brad and Doug are good enough friends that he stayed on channel awesome

[@Theladywiththeblackdress]

Isn't it a federal offense to read a letter that isn't addressed to you?

[@PhoenixRising87]

Yes. Yes, it is.

[@mathieuleader8601]

The Wiretap Act to be exact

[@chungusbooper]

Wait, just reading it? Surely you mean opening it.

[@culwin]

Read it, no, take it, yes.

[@calthesquidking5839]

This letter... is mine.

[@ShadowPa1adin]

The movie starts with an grown woman that has never worked a day in her life being financially cut-off by her rich parents in order to get her to find a husband? When the hell was this written? I'm pretty sure there are stories in the original "Arabian Nights" that have a more progressive attitude towards women.

[@merrittanimation7721]

Considering the character in the framing story explaining it is intelligent enough to trick the sultan into not killing her by telling the story that's not hard

[@kissarococo2459]

The uncensored version of 1000 nights has PLENTY of scheming women. One story I read (and was traumatized by as a child...)was about a woman demanding her husband has sex with her in a public garden. Bunch of bandits see them doing it and kill the husband and rape the woman. The moral of the story? Women are kinky so keep them on short leash. Another story has a mermaid trying different kinds of whips on her sister because she thinks she is not married to guy he has kids with. Until the husband comes and convinces the mermaid not to whip her sister to death in name of Allah. @@merrittanimation7721

[@23Starcatcher]

Pretty typical of 60's feminism.

[@AlexKS1992]

Take it from a guy that has read the book it's anything but progressive. Then again Feminazis are anything but progressive.

[@ShadowPa1adin]

@@AlexKS1992 ThatsTheJoke.gif

[@Piemanthe3rd]

Brad saying "Have you seen the porn i watch? I never get off easy" filled me with Christmas spirit.

[@SgtScorpious]

and other things i'm sure are best not discussed

[@yupitsjessbbyx3]

Was it really that hard to make a likable lead and making the girlfriend unlivable. Like, they couldn't provide actual evidence of her being awful? She couldn't have been cheating on him, or maybe emotionally unstable or at least mean to the daughter? DO THEY REALLY NOT KNOW WHAT MAKES SOMEONE A TERRIBLE PERSON?

[@47Cartoonguy]

Even then that would be a little manipulative now you HAVE to hate her

[@cristyablad]

The people writing this 100% do not know what makes someone a horrible person, as they are the people who wrote this.

[@coolnerdlll6053]

The most puzzling thing is that Dear Santa is currently free on KZbin, and if you look at the comments, they're all talking about how it's a heartwarming, feel-good Christmas movie with great characters and an uplifting message. Did Pete write all the comments himself?

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

KZbin can filter comments.

[@Jarod-vg9wq]

The only reason there’s good comments.

[@IAmAwesomeRocker]

"I think he's straight" ... "And he's a cannibal" Omg I think I just had a fucking heartattack XD

[@dancepiglover]

Crystal not only gets involved with this family because she stalked them, but takes it further by having an inappropriate relationship with a child via the two conspiring against the dad's girlfriend. The lady knows no boundaries.

[@chrisgostanian6753]

16:16 HOLY SHIT, what a horrible thing to say. Did the writers think this garbage human was actually likeable?

[@elrodtherocker]

Root was more likeable. And I'm talking when she was straight up killing people and kidnapping Harold.

[@fhb3]

It's NOT a Cinema Snob Christmas without Fat Gramma! And... Santa Christ?

[@culwin]

Don't forget Bear-Ian

[@fhb3]

culwin And at 22:25, we get a Shock Treatment shout-out! So that IS Fred (from Angel) playing the lead...

[@emberparadox458]

Yes, also from the other Joss Wheaton classic Dollhouse.

[@pompousproductions]

Well we have to connect these two reviewaverses somehow.

[@gracekim1998]

Felix Brown yep😇

[@dinkrumpchumper1385]

Taken from the girlfriends perspective this is a very dark and fucked tale about a psycho trying to break up a family

[@KyleNorty]

Why did they have to film the mom in front of a greenscreen? If she's only on videochat, clearly on a laptop, why wouldn't she just be in a hotel room? It would make much more sense and look better.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

@mr. Wldasoldmysoul4pussyasateen They could have used a corner of the set they already had.

[@madamefluffy4788]

I'm surprised this movie wasn't written by James E. Reilly (the dimwit who was behind the soap opera Passions). The stalker in this film bares a striking resemblance to Theresa Lopez-Fitzgerald - a young woman who, after receiving a teddy bear from the son of wealthy socialites, became so obsessed with the boy that she grew up believing that they were meant to be together - so, went through a ridiculous amount of plots, manipulations and lies in order to make him break up with his fiancee, disown the only family her knew, just so he'd marry her instead. And, it worked. The series ended with Theresa marrying him - her final message to the audience (I kid you not - she broke the fourth wall to address the audience) was to never give up on your dreams/follow your passions in order to get what you want. It was a royally fucked up - even for a soap opera.

[@PosthumanHeresy]

So that's why it was Spike's favorite show on Buffy The Vampire Slayer!

[@AngelofMusic04]

Madame Fluffy Kay and Beth were worse, in my two cents. But at the same time, everyone in Harmony were awful people. Except for Tabitha.

[@garnetpoochyena824]

Madame Fluffy ...didn’t she rape him at one point and steal their baby??? In any other movie she would’ve been ran over with s car by the other woman. Da fuq how she get a happy ending???

[@lizzychrome7630]

This movie is about a woman whose heart is so big it's her weakness. Gillian, who works at a soup kitchen and helps the homeless because it's just what she does, is in tragic denial about what an emotionally abusive bastard her boyfriend is, and blames everyone but him for the fact that he's cheating on her with a sociopath. I hope Gillian drove off at the end because she realized that she deserved better than this crowd of fuck-nuggets and went to find decent humans like herself to interact with. Anyway, great review! I always love crossovers. And a Fat Grandma/Santa Christ relationship! Why did no one think of that before?!

[@Cpt_nice]

That creepy music never fails to get a chuckle out of me

[@JaycRam]

It's driving me nuts--where is that from?

[@dnmstarsi]

Yep! This song never fails to be unfunny and unfitting especially for creeps like Clay Walsh.

[@athomicritics]

JayRam it make me insane too , i still cant find where its from

[@HylianFox3]

it's just too perfect

[@daneyal7162]

Jillian is the real victim here. She deserves so much better.

[@malachidaley759]

For real, she did absolutely nothing wrong

[@samflood5631]

And yet the movie makes her the main villain of this story.

[@megano2000]

This movie is like Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, but bad and during Christmas and not a musical.

[@DigiRangerScott]

Caesar Orzell But still stealing pets from the popular people

[@megano2000]

And dressing them up like the popular people!

[@marcen12]

...and Ex-Girlfriend is an actual movie.

[@DigiRangerScott]

marcen12 That's SUPER Ex-Girlfriend

[@marcen12]

Either way, they're movies.

[@seanmatyas3938]

What is with all these movies that think it is OK to break up relationships because "we should be together" Here is an easy fix. Get rid of the Jillian character and make the movie about the dad not being able to move on from his dead wife. Then get rid of ALL the stalker elements and instead replace it with a woman who starts working at the soup kitchen for ethical reasons. The two can have a budding relationship and in the end they get together. You can keep most of the other plots around and it is a movie with likable characters that you root for. SHOCKING CONCEPT.

[@sensibleGamer]

*psst* you said the kid asked for a "new dad" in her letter to santa

[@StonedGremlinProductions]

Meh.

[@psychotripnerdstuff]

I think we can all agree she needs a new dad, too.

[@sillygrl23]

Maybe Brad really wanted Derek and the Soup Kitchen Chef to secretly hook uo? ;)

[@psychotripnerdstuff]

ladydiskette Then they'd plow. HARD.

[@psychotripnerdstuff]

ladydiskette Sounds like dessert!

[@maugos]

Wait, when do I get my magical gay advice powers? Am... am I broken? Am I a defective homosexual? No, it can't be! AUUUUUUGGHHHH! *brandishes an axe and runs down the street*

[@lettylunasical4766]

You just need to meet the right Basic Bitch and your Gay-Best-Friend powers will begin flooding in.

[@Rickbane01]

*Calmly locks doors*

[@CreditR01]

Best comment thread. Merry Christmas. : D

[@Triceritrozer]

It's easier than you'd think, but harder than you'd hope.

[@SPIKEY123Z]

Meowsers!

[@Usagi393]

Jillian was right to be suspicious of Derrick 1.) He was emotionally cheating on her, like the whole movie and 2.) Who wouldn’t be upset that your boyfriend spent the night with a woman he knew for 3 days and didn’t even have the curtesy to call and inform you of the situation beforehand

[@somethingsuperbland8829]

The hell os “emotional cheating”?

[@Miguel-Raton]

"Bear-ian, huh?" "I write drunk." milk came out of my nose.

[@DeepEye1994]

Even with Doug and Brad riffing on it this movie was painful...

[@FelisTerras]

Tell me about it..at times it tried to be 'The Hand that rocks the Cradle', then made several u-turns into random bull$hit area and turned into a wannabe-reality-sitcom. In it's own way, this is just as bad as the 'Last ounce of Courage' flic...

[@briedriel8133]

Niall Hagan and Hallmark

[@bobrew461]

if a man did all the shit that happened in the film, no one would justify it as "cute".

[@FelisTerras]

I don't think the gender really matters in this case...this is 'Old Fashioned' on the flip side with a twist

[@theshipper5797]

Yeah that pretty much sums it up, except I didn't feel the urge to punch her as much as the dude in that movie. Sure she was a stalker and unlikable, but not punchable unlikable.

[@beethovensfidelio]

Say what you will about Disney’s “Enchanted”, but at least the screenwriter for that film didn’t make Nancy Tremaine *“cartoonishly evil”* in order to justify her fiancé Robert choosing Giselle over her. In any other movie, Giselle would come across as flighty and mentally unstable, and Nancy would be the sane one. However in “Enchanted”, they don’t vilify Nancy in order to boost Giselle up. Instead they make Nancy a nice woman who doesn’t see Giselle as her “enemy”, as well as having her *graciously* accept the fact that Robert is in love with Giselle, not her.

[@TheHeroOfTomorrow]

"No, I meant FUCKING. I clearly got that scene wrong!"

[@jamessmart3]

TheHeroOfTomorrow lmao cinema snob was on point

[@Agent57000DM]

Santa Christ hooking up with Fat Grandma? Brian coming out of the closet? Is this a Channel Awesome fan fiction episode?

[@DigiRangerScott]

Agent57000DM What part of Fat Grandma reading a story don't you understand?🤣

[@TheRealNormanBates]

Obviously, the part where Fat Grandma reads a story.

[@tonyjackson8505]

I haveta agree with Doug and Brad, the girlfriend isn't perfect, but obviously cares about the male lead. To top it off, Amy Acker, who I love as an actress, isn't being a perfect mom, she's a goddamn enabler, agreeing with whatever the kid says. Oh my dad's girlfriend is a bitch...YUP she is, let's take her out. The kid doesn't want a mom, she wants someone who will take her side. Let's see if dear old dad likes the new replacement when the kid is 15 and wants to date a guy named Roughneck with a face tattoo who's 23 and the new moms ok with it cause, d'oh the kid is always right about snap character judgements.

[@gRinchY-op5vr]

tony jackson oh I love when the kid accuses the dad of not giving anybody a chance - except he basically gave two women a chance in this film and the kid gave only one of them a chance...id say 7 year old logic but I've met smarter 5 year olds than this lol

[@AlexOlinkiewicz]

Wow, this is just Stereotype after Stereotype, I'm surprised that this wasn't made by PureFlix

[@julieporter7805]

Alex Olinkiewicz Nah, if it was made by Pureflix the gay character either wouldn't exist or would be in league with Satan. (Of course Pete works with Crystal so pretty close.)

[@mindlessgonzo]

I was expecting a different Fatal Attraction reference whenever the creepy music comes up. "I'm not gonna be IGNORED, Dan!"

[@goob_goob_gooby_goob]

Plot twist: Crystal's mother isn't actually real, she's just a computer program. Like a virtual pet-type thing

[@johnmiller7637]

I think SantaCrist is the best character ever created.

[@aztn19]

John Miller second only to Bill

[@wingsandash]

Fat Grandma forever!

[@drakkenmensch]

This review is a critical mass of awesome characters.

[@TheBonkleFox]

@@aztn19 Fuck Bill. he existed solely for a stupid and hypocritical joke in a review that was supposed to be a special milestone but was just a regular thing with barely any mention of the milestone.

[@SoCalloweenNEWS]

This review had me dying, "Bear-ian??? I write when I'm drunk" 😂😂😂

[@tophers3756]

I'm frightened by anyone who'd identify with the "protagonist" or find this movie compelling.

[@lizerman74]

I died laughing when gay!Brian saw Sarah sitting there crying and got all happy.

[@MISTAWULFY]

"Santa Christ brings all the HO HO HOES to the yard" really needs to be on a shirt or something

[@Headbanger142]

Oh God, I remember the other day I was visiting my parents and I saw the "plowing" scene. I honestly couldn't believe it. I was disappointed she didn't end up breaking the plow causing him to get mad and throw her out of the truck.

[@teddyfurstman1997]

Love your review they are funny! ^^

[@caidalee1994]

I will always come back to this episode simply for Sarah’s cry. Always gets a good laugh, and I quote “for Murder.” too often.

[@Flaris]

What a terrible movie. Why is this kind of story a thing? I can get the basic idea of her rich parents wanting their daughter to do something with her life and thus giving her a push. Although in reality I think the kid would presume they are blushing since even rich parents wouldn't actually toss their kid into the street. Maybe if the threat was to seriously cut back her money to survivable but not enjoyable levels that might work. Anyways...just why? Why would anyone think it is a smart and clever idea to have someone who basically is only acting for their own benefit try to ruin other relationships? They don't even go an intelligent route and have the other woman be a terrible person. She's just a decent person who gets a happy relationship ruined because...she's not the main character. Hell why not just have him be a single father? Why does there even have to be another person to demonize? Oh well I guess the cold comfort is that relationship is doomed. Any idiot who gets involved with this girl will quickly realize how badly he messed up.

[@jaxparra8168]

I'm a 23 year old virgin I'd just be gratfull a girl took the time to follow me around.

[@oren1305]

+jax pearra Not if she started ruining your life, stalking you, or trying to force you into situations you're uncomfortable with. Then, you wouldn't care that it's someone giving you attention; because it's all negative and bothersome attention that could result in serious issues. See, the stereotype is that women hate stalkers, but somehow it's okay for women to _be_ stalkers, which it isn't. Don't let a crazy woman manipulate you simply because you're lonely, dude. It's not worth it… (I've seen enough of my male friends be hurt that way).

[@chaosvii]

This is the same line of oblivious reasoning that causes catcallers to sincerely believe that unsolicited sexual remarks towards women they find unattractive should be considered complementary towards them _I mean if I was that ugly I'd be happy to recieve any male attention_

[@seigeengine]

Seem there are ways to make this work, like maybe she gets a job and he's a coworker, or maybe she has to do something charitable for some reason, and she encounters him, but the stalker element just doesn't make sense. If they had made her fail, become one of those homeless people when her parents stopped supporting her, and then faded out, that would have been a much better movie.

[@vixxcelacea2778]

Actually there are quite a few stories of kids from rich families getting cut off for random reasons (some justified, others not even close) and those kids end up in serious financial debt or even become homeless. Given how little her parents clearly cared about Crystal, I don't think they would care. Many rich parents often feel like what they earned was theirs, not their kids and that even though what made them rich is luck and a bit of skill, those kids must start from scratch. My own grandparents when they had a lot of money did something similar to this. People who have money are often very bitter and selfish. That being said, I totally agree that this movie is absolutely awful and Crystal is an irredeemable creep and in this movie it's only okay to them because she's female. I can guarantee this movie would not of gotten a green light if Crystal had been a rich playboy stalker, no matter how attractive told he must find a women and then followed a little girl and her mother around, babysitting her etc.

[@9Godslayer]

A Cinema Snob and Nostalgia Critic cross-over? It's a Festivus Day miracle!

[@megamage911]

Aww hell yeah! :D

[@9Godslayer]

Kefka Palazzo How's the Warring Triad treating you?

[@megamage911]

Tyler Witt wat

[@9Godslayer]

Kefka Palazzo Those three gods you imprisoned? The source of all magic?

[@megamage911]

Tyler Witt Shh, they don't know where I am!

[@PowerGlove79]

There was a either a Lifetime or Hallmark Christmas movie some years ago call “All I Want For Christmas” (not to be confused with the 1991 movie with Thora Birch and Ethan Embry) that had a very similar plot. Only in that one, The villain to me was the kid. He was a real brat who was constantly dumping on his moms perfectly nice fiancé, just because he was rich.

[@KingOfDoma]

Headcanon: this is a brainwashed Illyria from Angel: the Series, and this is one of those happy little hell dimensions from season 5 where you go into the basement and get tortured every night...

[@martinsriber7760]

Poor God-King of the Primordium.

[@sutterkane3264]

ITS FRED!!!!!! I FUCKING LOVE FRED!!!!

[@Azrael666Azazel]

It's weird because that was my exact same thought after seeing Amy Acker.

[@samflood5631]

24:11-I feel that scene is personally satisfying as the guy calls out the “main character” out on her bulls**t. If I were him, I would have called the cops on her and filed a restraining order on her.

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

I love Linkara's Fat-Granny character

[@MissLovebat]

Why am I suddenly shipping Santa Christ and Fat Grandma? This isn't my weirdest ship, mind you.

[@existenceisrelative]

Mine is Lamp and Wall Plug. Will those two *ever* make it work?

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

+existenceisrelative Nope.

[@stephenmarco2927]

Not so long as the surge protector keeps getting between them

[@existenceisrelative]

Stephen Marco Meddling surge protector, he's always been jealous of wall plug.

[@FelisTerras]

Heh, now *that* would be both creepy and hilarious. Just picture Fat Grandma giving Santa Christ a litteral whipping, then telling it to Linkara. Oh, and btw, at 30:14-30:28, did Snob just propose to Critic? Seriously, he looks ready to crawl on this one's lap and declare his undying love..ok, I'm fangirling, here. Still, with the chemistry these two got going, there's little wonder to think among those lines

[@Takeshi357]

Well, at least it doesn't have an entire school watch a snuff film.

[@devinbell4816]

Schools aren't supposed to do that?

[@thejudge305]

it was in a movie called last ounce of courage. some bastard tries to win sympathy points by showing war footage of his son getting blown away during irac war

[@tcarroll777]

lol "you're not getting off that easy" "have you ever seen the pornos I watch? I never get off easy" that fucking killed me for real. rest in peace, me

[@samflood5631]

20:28-And just like that scene in Edward Scissorhands where Kim Bogg dances around snow created from Edward cutting ice sculptures. And that firework scene in Chainsaw Man where Denji and Reze first kiss before biting off his tongue. And just like that scene in Final Fantasy 16 where Clive and Jill had sex after their fight with King Barnabas. And just like that scene in Tales of Arise where Alphen hugged Shionne in Lord Vholran’s castle as she was emotional breakdown. And just like that scene in Tokyo Ghoul where Kaneki and Touka have sex. And just like that scene in Ghost where Sam and Molly make a clay pot together.

[@Jude300c]

The two women seriously look like the same person... Just one with neater hair, and the other...different....

[@Nakia11798]

June300c I couldn't tell which was which

[@jane6799]

Ikr

[@julieporter7805]

Would it have killed them to make one blond or red haired?

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

So glad that wasn’t just me!

[@hunterwilder9665]

A crossover between the Nostalgia Critic and the Cinema Snob is like seeing Halley’s Comet: you don’t see it very often, but when you do, it’s very cool

[@samflood5631]

23:01-I 100 percent agree with her. Why did the movie feel the need to make her the antagonist again?

[@CactusJackIV]

I love when the NC and the snob get together! I enjoy the way all of channel awesome does their collaborations.

[@MJTRadio]

I know Lifetime gets a lot of shit for rewarding pettiness and shit like that, but I never imagined it actually got this bad ._.Oh yeah, and Snob, any chance of the Christmas Shoes movie getting a similar treatment?

[@sillygrl23]

Or maybe The Christmas Shoes 2? That was pretty awful.

[@devonanderson2902]

@@sillygrl23 You mean "The Christmas Blessing"? I saw the trailer for that and the saddest part was hearing that Golden Globe Nominees Neil Patrick Harris and Rob Lowe agreed to be in that film.

[@goldensloth7]

I got a snow day, some beer, and there's a Snob/Critic crossover. It's a good birthday.

[@JadziaCheshire]

As someone with a laugh like is Hyena-like, I find it very offensive that this movie uses that as a way to say that Jillian is bad or unfit to be with Derek.

[@causticwit]

Jillian doesn't even have what I'd call a hyena laugh!

[@sugarskullbyte3773]

I don't know what's worse: not having any rational characters in real-life situations and environments (Drop Dead Fred comes to mind) OR having at least one perfectly reasonable character and no one listens to them...

[@ennohankel6658]

cRaZy J both can be funny if done right

[@Canadamus_Prime]

You know, just once I'd like to see a movie like this where the protagonist DOESN'T get their love interest because as part of their character development they realize that their romantic rival is the better person for their love interest.

[@tristanhartup4936]

Here here

[@AngelofMusic04]

Matthew Walton They did. "Little Black Book" with Brittany Murphy, where the sociopathy of her character is astounding.

[@thelocustgod9098]

"AND HE'S A FUCKING CANNIBAL!" Fuck me that was funny. XD

[@dantr14]

I despise these listen to your heart not your head movies

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

Shy Guy "Listen to your heart" is not a bad moral if your movie has anything resembling good reasoning(like Mulan 1). This movie sure doesn't.

[@dantr14]

ajmrowland Listing to your heart is how people die it teaches people to be ruled by there emotions instead of trying to think then acting.

[@PosthumanHeresy]

People who listened to their hearts instead of their heads quite possibly, thanks to the long term nature of climate change, doomed the entire human race less than two months ago.

[@statykelektricity9591]

Well, I think that if you listen solely to either your heart or head, you're doomed. Listen to both!

[@seigeengine]

I hate when this movie tries to interpret "listen to your heart not your head" as "do retarded shit because you're being emotionally manipulated."

[@Account_Not_Applicable]

my older sister marathoned so many Lifetime Christmas movies last Christmas because she was working on a project. There are SO many that have the "girl meets guy already in a long-term relationship (or vice versa) and decide they're better with the person they just met" storylines. I just want one Christmas movie that doesn't have a finding true love subplot. also why am I watching this when it's practically May? I'm two/seven months early and five months late

[@03bgood]

Remember, it's okay for women to stalk men, but heaven forbid a man stalks a woman! Also I have a request, Brad; can you review the J.K. Rowling TV movie from Lifetime?

[@missmoanypants]

03bgood I hate how we're suppose to see it as cute or quirky when women are stalkers. It is creepy not matter who is doing it! 😓

[@kimberly6663]

To be fair, in a considerable amount of chick flix handsome men stalking women is romanticized too. Twilight being one of the creepiest examples of this. Not cute!!

[@hinasakukimi]

oh god is there actually a jk rowling tv movie

[@princesstamika]

foul! even in most romance movies a man continues to pester a woman or stalk her and we're expected to see his unrequited love and feel sorry for him. it's made even worse by the woman eventually "giving in".

[@neosoontoretro]

@princesstamika You have to be specific with what romantic films you are talking about. Sorry, but in my experience the internet has a tendency to overgeneralize romantic comedies.

[@lankey6969]

"Shuttin' off the sex pipe" The Snob writing really shines through.

[@GreaterSeraph]

Critic and Snob are at their best when they work together.

[@derek_sayre]

More like the Snob carries all of these unfunny people through the video. Brad does his best as usual but the horribly unfunny critic drags the video down

[@SamIAmxoxox123]

yay Lloyd had a kitty cameo...too adorable!

[@AngelofMusic04]

Samantha Crespo "Meow-sers!"

[@Mayeur000Donz]

I would pay all the money to watch a film that follows cliches like this film does... except it has some sense and by the end the "hero" is truly shown to be an asshole and the "bitchy" girlfriend is given a break.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

"Try and catch me. I''m a cat now. MEOWSERS!" XD

[@ikillomega]

Jason Priestly often shows up on in my dreams, usually riding on top of Meg Ryan and Lauren Holly in a two-person horse costume accompanied by the theme to Perfect Strangers as played on guitar by Jonathan Taylor Thomas dressed as Prince. I have very awesome dreams.

[@Ukiby3000]

"I call him Big Ben 'cause he always comes on time!" takes me out EVERY Time 🤣

[@s7robin105]

So in order to find love.. all I had to do was stalk someone who lost their wife and grow a bond with their child in 3 days and try to ruining their relationship with someone they've dated for years

[@howsitgoingwhiskerdude]

S7Robin It’s a lot easier than you might think.

[@JYJnKumi]

I randomly got the phrase, "I'm a cat now! Meowsers!" stuck in my head and went through 5 crossover videos to find out which one it came from.

[@JP-dh1xv]

Linkara, NC, and cinema snob fuck yeah.

[@rcct44444]

JP and Rob Walker

[@AussieDragoon]

Brian needs to work on his foppishness. I give his performance 5 silk neckerchiefs out of 10.

[@aformofmatter8913]

Honestly, I didn't find Bear-Ryan that funny because his performance wasn't over-the-top enough.

[@cristyablad]

@AussieDragoon Chloe Banderas, is that you?!?!

[@TheBlackCloakedMan]

This is Crazy Ex-Girlfriend if it had no self-awareness.

[@Vulkurt]

Scenes with Brian and Sarah - how often did they crack each other up?

[@roseuslotus92]

Doug's father is so precious.

[@hemmingwayfan]

You guys are a riot whenever you team up. Be awesome if you two did more crossover reviews.

[@baz5042]

Wait if the Cinema Snob take place in Fat Grandma's stories does that mean every other Channel Awesome reviewer take place in Fat Grandma's head?

[@itsyaboiChubbs]

Colt Stovik S T O P

[@RadMan224]

We must go deeper

[@baz5042]

Shamal Jifan Oh my, are we getting a little head of ourselves?

[@itsyaboiChubbs]

Shamal Jifan idk but I may want in on this

[@LaydiNite]

I prefer to think that they are Chester A. Bum's drug hallucinations...

[@naurmael]

The George RR Martin joke gets funnier every year the winds of Winter doesn't get written

[@carriekube7357]

Man, the protagonist is an awful person.

[@BlueZeroThree]

Carrie Kube She makes Cinder Fall look like Jesus

[@carriekube7357]

***** I also think the fact that her parents gave her whatever she wanted, pampered her and never really told her no until now probably has something to do with it as well.

[@jagarcia0705]

Actually she's not really the protagonist. The real protagonist is the one with common sense, & yet The Stalker & 7 year old manipulative girl make her out to be the bad guy. The Stalker would fit nicely in the neighborhood that has The Kranks in it.

[@seigeengine]

jagarcia0705 No, you're confusing protagonist with "good guy," or "hero." The protagonist is just the main character.

[@ninja0329]

Is it weird that the antagonist is the only person with common sense and is the person you want to root for?

[@tanookicookie]

Apparently to Lifetime, being a stalking homewrecker who only helps the homeless to get a man's attention rather than actually give a helping hand is A-ok as long as she's 'quirky!1!!'

[@nomduclavier]

"Try and catch me. I'm a cat now." Did you just pull a Phelous

[@TheMadwomen]

B H/ I saw more of an Obscurus Lupa in that joke, but I guess there was a pinch of Phelous in there.

[@Theladywiththeblackdress]

Santa.....Satan DONT YOU SEE THE CONNECTION???

[@itsyaboiChubbs]

Alcendence look, hes been convicted as the source of all evil, give the guy one day

[@WikiSorcerer]

And God mad dogs in his image.

[@MadameSomnambule]

Said by almost every bible tumping mother ever. XD

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

GTFO Kirk Cameron!

[@cookiemocher388]

God, Dog, u see what I mean😱

[@jacknapier8201]

This'd be a different kind of Lifetime movie if the genders were flipped.

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodye591]

Exactly

[@HylianFox3]

you know a movie is bad when the offensive stereotype is the most likeable character

[@JYJnKumi]

They could've fixed so much of what was wrong with this movie by making Jillian a gold digger or something and Crystal finding out and trying to prove it to the dad, then the dad realises both women are insane and accepts being a single dad. 😂

[@joefowler7832]

That end made my Christmas....hahahahahahaha WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU WEARING?!!!