Dear Silksong Fans... GO PLAY NINE SOLS

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Foekoe

Foekoe

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@theGDmenace13
@theGDmenace13 6 ай бұрын
1:29 Well, I'm an uneducated American And I can confidently say you just showed me Portugal.
@Foekoe
@Foekoe 6 ай бұрын
Nuh uh
@akashnandanam8074
@akashnandanam8074 6 ай бұрын
Namaste​@@Foekoe
@RetroLammerr
@RetroLammerr 6 ай бұрын
@@Foekoe guh
@nikkav1029
@nikkav1029 6 ай бұрын
​@@Foekoe you are very Portuguese
@PhonyLyzard
@PhonyLyzard 6 ай бұрын
I didn't want to comment this so thank you for doing so.
@NikoFromOneShot
@NikoFromOneShot 6 ай бұрын
Somewhere out there, in a different dimension we are all playing Hollow Knight while waiting for Nine Sols: Taosong
@merlito2882
@merlito2882 6 ай бұрын
No
@Fundiper
@Fundiper 6 ай бұрын
Where did you come from
@TheCelestine
@TheCelestine 6 ай бұрын
Oh hello there Niko from the hit indie game oneshot
@-w-.
@-w-. 6 ай бұрын
Niko!
@RushWheeler
@RushWheeler 6 ай бұрын
The darkest timeline
@fireb0rn
@fireb0rn 6 ай бұрын
YES! Play Nine Sols everyone!
@Alphinell
@Alphinell 6 ай бұрын
helooo!!
@xiaolibraryofruina
@xiaolibraryofruina 6 ай бұрын
so true
@Caketurtle7
@Caketurtle7 6 ай бұрын
Ur video made me buy it
@jairdinh7563
@jairdinh7563 6 ай бұрын
Less go hope we get a review video from you too I'm just searching for some rn.
@Zirclezz
@Zirclezz 6 ай бұрын
yea!
@Yes-ut8im
@Yes-ut8im 6 ай бұрын
Whether or not you like the stretches of dialogue and character interactions in a game really depends on the type of player you are. For me, I genuinely really enjoyed the dialogue and character writing presented in Nine Sols, and I actually think it serves to elevate the game’s story to a higher level by making each character fleshed out and worthy of sympathy to their own degree. Some people may not be looking for that, and that’s ok, but Nine Sols wouldn’t be the same game without its focus on characters. I would personally recommend it, it’s genuinely an incredible metroidvania that does really unique things, and it’s an experience you won’t get from any other game.
@uiopgamer4647
@uiopgamer4647 2 ай бұрын
Yeah good I too love good dialogue another good example is Hades that game has tons of dialogue but its SO GOOD
@csidesummit
@csidesummit 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely baffled to hear Nine Sols' dialogue described as a bombardment or compared, even jokingly, to a visual novel. In my opinion they were efficient at getting across what they needed to, and good about avoiding needless repetition or dragging conversations.
@No-RE-q1w
@No-RE-q1w 8 күн бұрын
Some people think Souls datalogs are genuinely good storytelling and I can't for the life of me understand where they're coming from because to me, anything that is lacking in presentation as basic as characters interacting with each other in favor of sifting through endless amounts of lore bits in item descriptions in order to piece together the story is nothing short of pretentious and comes across as cutting too many corners. I think Nine Sols does an excellent job showing its characters just enough to get the point across. This is something that I found lacking in Hollow Knight when the game tried to get me to care about its own characters through minimal dialogue and rushed character arcs (outside of Zote).
@ms0624371
@ms0624371 6 ай бұрын
Hi, I would like to clarify that at 2:45 is the simplified Chinese. China uses the simplified Chinese, and Taiwan uses traditional one.
@aika971
@aika971 6 ай бұрын
And I was wondering if there's someone come out and point this out Thank you
@ericklopes4046
@ericklopes4046 4 ай бұрын
These negative reviews have plus 20 hours playtime, so they probably liked the game. It's like playing 50+ hours of CoD and then leaving negative reviews cuz an American game said "Russia bad". I'm eager to see what it is tho. I'm assuming the Solarians represent Maoists or something, and Mao in China is kinda like the founding fathers in the US.
@ellaslidell576
@ellaslidell576 2 ай бұрын
​@@ericklopes4046 The Solarians definitely don't represent Maoists. They're a mix of Taoists and scientists, who are mostly underground since Taoism has become popular. The game isn't exactly political, it's more about death as part of life, and the issues that come when science perverts nature. I don't read Solarians as a version of Maoists - there's no mention of them destroying old religious sites or statues, or outlawing religion at all. There's also not any sign of political repression that I can remember, which people could take as a critique of China's actions. I think the critique is of science and technology making people farther from nature, versus any other political system. Maybe the one critique that could be taken as anti-Maoist is that the "bad" characters are godless scientists and Maoism and communism are not fond of religion? I think that if any one is review bombing from China it has more to do with Red Candle Games's history and political controversy with Xi Jinping than anything else. Which is of course not okay, but what can we do from here. Anyway, masterpiece of a game. Best of 2024
@pokegammer8738
@pokegammer8738 6 ай бұрын
1:29 EXTREMLY RARE PORTUGAL APPEARENCE WRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHH!!!! WHAT THE HELL IS A STABLE ECONOMY!!!
@eduardoazevedo4514
@eduardoazevedo4514 6 ай бұрын
What the hell is shame for our past sins🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹. The portuguese empire shall rise again!!!!! 🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹
@Arnie58
@Arnie58 6 ай бұрын
West european balkans
@lol_una
@lol_una 6 ай бұрын
BORA CARALHO 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@happyjay9168
@happyjay9168 6 ай бұрын
You mean Taiwan?
@eduardoazevedo4514
@eduardoazevedo4514 6 ай бұрын
@@happyjay9168 Taiwan doesn't belong to china but Portugal
@Shiroihitsuji
@Shiroihitsuji 6 ай бұрын
1:29 ahh yes, as a Taiwanese, I can confirm we all live in Portugal.
@senhhs5851
@senhhs5851 6 ай бұрын
Well, with Ilsa Formosa being a thing and all, Portugal is close enough. XD
@唐唯剛
@唐唯剛 6 ай бұрын
2:45 Small mistake. The one used by China is Simplified Chinese. Traditional Chinese is the kind used by Taiwan.
@axyndey
@axyndey 6 ай бұрын
WHY IS EVERYONE CLARIFYING THIS JEFIKJNBGEEJWGKIWE
@hmg8224
@hmg8224 6 ай бұрын
@@axyndey Because we are not china
@artenthusiastae7196
@artenthusiastae7196 6 ай бұрын
@@hmg8224 They not like us, they not like us
@Callmethedrink7
@Callmethedrink7 4 ай бұрын
Is this what Taiwanese people mean when they say they are the ones preserving han Chinese culture?
@artenthusiastae7196
@artenthusiastae7196 3 ай бұрын
@@Callmethedrink7 yeah cuz we didn't burn half of it
@cursedricardo
@cursedricardo 6 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Cave story is fully made by just one man daisuke amaya, from the engine to the music editor that he created the osts in
@gratefulgamer7907
@gratefulgamer7907 6 ай бұрын
That is a pretty good fun fact. You receive the fun fact seal of approval, very cool keep making more fun facts. 😎👍
@dorf7219
@dorf7219 6 ай бұрын
it like a mix of halo 2 and halo 3
@pizzaguy_
@pizzaguy_ 6 ай бұрын
One Hour One Life is also 100% hand made, even the sound effects, the creator made them all with his mouth.
@ogn1k110
@ogn1k110 6 ай бұрын
i will wait and see till foekoe makes so many cave story mentions so he'll have to make video about cave story
@cursedricardo
@cursedricardo 6 ай бұрын
@@ogn1k110 i would love to see a cave story video, its my favorite game
@ghostu9607
@ghostu9607 6 ай бұрын
I feel like youre really underselling the narrative here. Yes it is dialogue heavy and yes it does like to leave you in the dark. However the dialogue does a great job of giving the player insight on every character as well as strengthening the relations between them and allowing us to see how they grow. It makes sense to leave things as a mystery that you slowly start to unravel because Yi is aware of the bigger picture (aside from Eigong’s true intentions). The game treats Yi as a real person, he doesn’t need to explain why they’re on New Kunlun or what’s happening because he, as well as everybody else, already knows. I also will not take dialogue slander coupled with Lady Ethereal’s story because her’s is just Shakespearean levels of tragic and one that elevated the game from good to great for me. I would like to add that I really appreciate your review overall though. This game is amazing and I love seeing any praise of it ❤️
@PhonyLyzard
@PhonyLyzard 6 ай бұрын
Foekoe, I think you need to face the facts. Lots of dialogue isn't a bad thing, you just don't like lots of dialogue. I understand that large stretches of dialogue can be boring. But when I see you complain about dialougue in your videos, when this complaint consistently comes up in your videos about story based games. It feels less like an issue with the game itself and more of a situation of personal preference.
@jurtheorc8117
@jurtheorc8117 6 ай бұрын
I second this.
@wave-zd5sm
@wave-zd5sm 6 ай бұрын
yes
@BlindSpectet
@BlindSpectet 6 ай бұрын
yeh, i mean he’s reviewing the game and he’s talking about what he doesn’t like. if you like dialogue then it doesn’t matter.
@WuRuiDe
@WuRuiDe 6 ай бұрын
I generally don't like a lot of dialogue in games. This game made me realize I just don't like game dialogue when it's bad. The characters and story in Nine Sols is great and well worth reading.
@jurtheorc8117
@jurtheorc8117 6 ай бұрын
@@WuRuiDe What's some examples of games with bad dialogues for you, if it's alright to ask?
@Lanceleoghauni
@Lanceleoghauni 6 ай бұрын
I think it's really funny how many gamers main complaint about nine sols is "Reading is HARD. Why are you asking me to pay attention instead of just twitching"
@bjeelaa8795
@bjeelaa8795 6 ай бұрын
I'd like to add to this that the taoist narratives in Nine Sols are phenomenal. I teach and give presentations about taoism and am planning on writing an analysis on how Nine Sols uses it, both in story and in gameplay.
@purplealmond999
@purplealmond999 2 ай бұрын
I would very much like to read that if you ever get to it.
@Ailyxn
@Ailyxn Ай бұрын
I would like read it if u do
@Crowrona
@Crowrona 6 ай бұрын
I’m able to get through the overwhelming amount of dialogue because of how interesting I find each character.
@Crowrona
@Crowrona 6 ай бұрын
Also understanding the narrative is like fighting a boss for three hours but once you understand it, it’s one of the greatest stories to ever story
@owensartwork2710
@owensartwork2710 6 ай бұрын
I agree, there definitely is a lot of dialogue, and you don’t need to read a lot of it to understand the main story. A lot of it does help build the world and understand the land you are in. I think why sometimes it feels like there’s a lot of dialogue because after your done with an area you probably have a lot stuff to give to shaunshaun and shennong
@goldenwill4911
@goldenwill4911 5 ай бұрын
@@MrTheBest2WasTaken Have you seen a lore vid? The endings reflect a lot upon in-game theology and the peotagonist’s beliefs. If you didn’t get all the lore you will probably not be satisfied.
@terrencemy1563
@terrencemy1563 5 ай бұрын
@@MrTheBest2WasTaken it is a Red Candle game, they didn't leave a big hole in your heart that's good enough. (Yes I am saying Devotion)
@bigdoggo5827
@bigdoggo5827 2 ай бұрын
Nine Sols story is so captivating and intriguing, I say that everyone can give it a shot and it will be at least mildly interested, it's really good
@BonazaiGirl
@BonazaiGirl 6 ай бұрын
I genuinely like the interactions and more direct worldbuilding in this game. While I do like the more passive world building in the Souls games, HK and Elden Ring, the fact that we have cutscenes, dialogue and a more overt story allows me to connect better with the characters and lore of the game’s world as the usual silent, voiceless protagonist of most games just have you as a self-insert than, say, an established character whose already their own person with their own motives and feelings about certain events and the world they live in, especially since I get more of an understanding of why the character and characters around them act the way they do. Plus, I’m all about rich dialogue and engagement in games, so perhaps it’s a personal preference of mine.
@jurtheorc8117
@jurtheorc8117 6 ай бұрын
Mind if i give some suggestions for other (recent) games with more overt story, voiced cutscenes, established protagonist character and good dialogue?
@BonazaiGirl
@BonazaiGirl 6 ай бұрын
@@jurtheorc8117 Sure! I’m always up to get ahold of some good games to play!
@jurtheorc8117
@jurtheorc8117 6 ай бұрын
@@BonazaiGirl Thank you! Heads up: Very big comment incoming The games i want to recommend are Clash: Artifacts of Chaos, Soulstice, Cookie Cutter and No Straight Roads. - Clashs: AoC is a prequel to the Zeno Clash games, which are a very unique and bizarre world, almost prehistoric, with few humans and many sapient monsters, chimeras and freaks. The main character is a lonely, ugly martial arts hermit, who comes across an old man and his bird grandchild being harassed by a mercenary, leading to the accidental death of the grandfather. Pseudo, as the hermit is named, steps in to try and find a new safe place for the Boy, all the while surviving mercenaries, wildlife, maniacs and a theater-themed cult. Throughout the game, there will be moments of the two having talks with one another, like favourite foods, wondering what is across the sea, some teasing such as "Why don't you have feathers? You can sleep on them, like a pillow!" "I could pluck you and make a pillow" "Ah! Bad Pseudo!" "Heh heh heh" and genuinely fantastic music. To note: That last teasing conversation only happens late in the game. Early on, Pseudo is a pretty firm guy that doesn't go out of his way to emotionally attach himself to anyone, but he doesn't dismiss the child either. He's here to get stuff done, has some sass to him (pretty mercilessly against one character in particular), is alright with engaging in conversation, but there's also some melancholy to him. Not feeling like a complete person. The Boy himself can also offer some interesting things, like this following conversation: "I miss Grandpa sometimes." "You shouldn't. The dead are gone. They don't matter." "If they don't matter, why do they make us sad?" "*sighs*... I don't know." and one not long after that: "Pseudo... what happens to us when we die? Do we go somewhere?" "Where should we go? Zenozoik is all there is. Flesh to Dust, Breath to Wind. That's it." "Is that why the wind... sings?" *in a more intrigued, wondering tone* "I... don't know." For the game world itself, there is only one Law: Prior to a physical altercation, you can challenge an opponent to The Ritual, a short game of dice, where the winner gets to enforce a special condition on the battle. It's the closest semblance to any form of order and organization. - Cookie Cutter's about a planet known as the Megastructure that has a rather mystical energy source at its core. The main character is an android woman called Cherry, constructed by a scientist to save that world, who later become lovers She gets intensely, violently brutalized at the start of the game as the dystopian megacorp/government comes to take the scientist away. Cherry gets fixed up by an old friend of the scientist lady and is understandably much more bitter and angry, and is not here to make friends. Though neither is she here to be a deliberate jerk either, Cherry's just blunt and impatient. Many people haven't liked her for it, but all the characters react to her attitude in their own way. Some don't like it, some don't much care, some warrant a biting response back and some find it it refreshing. Cherry does have a separate A.I. companion named Regina who helps to balance out her rudeness and bluntness with a more educated view on things. Fair warning, the game itself can be quite irreverent and provocative. But it's not here to make fun of itself either. Cookie Cutter's quite a passion project of the lead dev, a kind of love letter to a LOT of media that has shaped his and later his team's tastes over the years. It makes no concessions on its weirdness and tone, fully knowing how divisive it can be, embraces clichés and isn't here to reinvent the wheel: but to have a story for the sake, value and worth of the world and story simply existing. - No Straight Roads is set in a city that is powered by music. The lead characters are an indie rock band of a pretty energetic and emotive guitarist (Mayday), and a more level-headed laid-back drummer (Zuke). During special auditions they get brushed off with unanimous negative votes by the jury, who consist of the main music artists that govern the different districts of Vinyl City. Yet the audience's reception seemed very loving. One scene later and Tatiana, the mayor/CEO bans *all* rock music from the city and heavily favours EDM. Meanwhile there's problems of various blackouts happening and most emergency power only gets directed to the main artists' venues. So, Mayday and Zuke seek to strike back. They fight the artists on their home turf, but they're not one-note simple bad guys. The entire game has a theme of music: Bosses don't just have different attacks in accordance with different parts of their themes, but also seem to represent different reasons why people make music, the effect that has on themselves and their audience, music as an industry, and the effect *that* has on artists and their people. From an astronomer DJ to a child prodigy on a piano, to a lady who looks like a living abstract or surrealist art mannequin piece and some others. Between bosses there's also some radio station interviews that the characters can have, discussing stuff like how Mayday and Zuke have their own disagreements-- like Zuke acknowledging that the antagonist company makes genuinely qualitive products, including drumsticks, and that Mayday got quite zealous and broke them. - Soulstice's main characters are technically one singular being. A big part of the game's lore and themes is about bonds and relationships with people, due to an ancient and common threat of extradimensional ghosts attacking a dark fantasy medieval world. This necessitated the birth of Chimeras: Creatures consisting of two souls bound into one body, with the secondary soul having the ability to tap into the intangible and ethereal to make the wraiths vulnerable to physical harm. Chimeras can only be born through two people having a very strong, intense bond. Briar and Lute, the two sisters, dearly love each other, with Briar being quite brash and having a chip on her shoulder about their current state of being, especially regarding Lute being a child and practically dead. Lute is a sweetheart, and is able to keep giving her sister hope, without being overbearing about it. Thing is, the game shows that the bond required to create a Chimera, doesn't necessarily have to be a positive one. And when a Chimera grows unstable, they risk Transcendence, a process of becoming a horrible, powerful monster, every one unique. There's also a snarky shopkeeper/overseernamed Layton who provides extra dialogue for those interested. It can tell more of the world or some insight in what the characters think. Like how Layton used to be part of the great monastery in the city where the game takes place, but always felt that the place was too opulent to really be built in honor of their gods. Too distracting, built more to impress than to revere. (Must admit, Soulstice isn't the easiest character action/hack-and-slash game to get into for reasons of the camera at times, dragging on in either the beginning or the middle depending on who you ask, and varous mechanics, but gameplay and story alike nevertheless have a lot of good stuff to offer and does feel good as well.) Very big comment, thank you for reading through all of this if you did so. I hope i've sparked your interest with these and wish you a lot of fun when you may get to them.
@ahmetkarakaya6103
@ahmetkarakaya6103 6 ай бұрын
I'm a bit sad that he never mentioned that the dialogue is quite well written and feels like a real dialogue than just lore dump most the time. Ig that's the souls player ADHD for you.
@BonazaiGirl
@BonazaiGirl 6 ай бұрын
@@jurtheorc8117 Thank you for the recommendations! Funny enough, I have played NSR and Cookie Cutter (both are great games with great dialogue and unique mechanics, although NSR is slightly janky), but haven’t played Soulstice or Clash. They do sound promising from the way you describe them in such great detail with super interesting synopsis. Might give check them out if they’re on Steam or Console.
@KekichNotGay
@KekichNotGay 6 ай бұрын
4:31 personally I don't have any problems with "long" dialogues in Nine Sols (cuz I don't really think they are long) and also, they are exciting to read and they are not boring (if you don't think so, you just haven't witnessed gacha games with shitton of boring dialogues, that are written by an AI)
@Shyguymask
@Shyguymask 6 ай бұрын
Sekiro is one of my favorite games ever. I might actually pick this up.
@Mostly_Rockin_it
@Mostly_Rockin_it 6 ай бұрын
Yeah you do you plants vs zombies guy
@FranXiT
@FranXiT 6 ай бұрын
Dew it
@Pyrodiac
@Pyrodiac 6 ай бұрын
​@@Mostly_Rockin_itSounds like somebody hasn't watched any of his content in a few years or is still coping with the fact that he isn't making PvZ content anymore. Oh wait he stopped making content as a whole I forgot about that.
@leithaziz2716
@leithaziz2716 6 ай бұрын
Heck yeah. Hesitation is Defeat.
@trashman966
@trashman966 6 ай бұрын
hey aren't you dea- *💀*
@Arnie58
@Arnie58 6 ай бұрын
2:44 Kinda important, If that is correct, traditional chinese is the writing used in Taiwan. Could be chinese plebs just using traditional to make it seem legit, but without further info I wouldn't be pointing fingers so quickly
@somekinnn
@somekinnn 6 ай бұрын
I think he just made a mistake and thought traditional was used in mainland and simplified in taiwan, and claimed it was in traditional chinese as a result even if it was actually simplified.
@j2325138
@j2325138 6 ай бұрын
I can confirm what's shown in 2:44 is simplified Chinese, which is used by people in China (I'm from Taiwan) I think he is just confused which country is using which language 😅
@Arnie58
@Arnie58 6 ай бұрын
@@j2325138 Ah good to know, thanks!
@fadeerchen
@fadeerchen 6 ай бұрын
To my surprise many people take simplified Chinese as a language that Taiwan people use. Stand with FoeKoe, although he might just mistaken something. It’s fine, the history is complicated, we don’t expect every people on earth understand. Just here to clarify, the Chinese in the clip is simplified one.
@ioneleo9
@ioneleo9 6 ай бұрын
@@fadeerchen You're right, Taiwanese people wouldn't use that junk font
@Riki35924
@Riki35924 6 ай бұрын
There's actually an option to skip dialogue by holding, but tbh I didn't have a problem with the dialogue since it tends to be written well
@FarremShamist
@FarremShamist 6 ай бұрын
The dialogue can be super heartwarming and adorable!!
@catasplurge1000
@catasplurge1000 4 ай бұрын
gamers when there is about a minutes worth of dialogue every 30 minutes:
@name-h7x
@name-h7x 6 ай бұрын
"The nine sols xi jingping winne the le poo incident"
@justsomeplantcells-
@justsomeplantcells- 6 ай бұрын
-1000 social credit LingDao wants you to disappear
@smirkdogeface
@smirkdogeface 6 ай бұрын
@@justsomeplantcells- Execution date: 明天黎明 Your last meal will be bing chilling
@tsuki-no-akuma
@tsuki-no-akuma 11 күн бұрын
6:13 Decisively disagree- I was there for the story. The gameplay was secondary to me in this one. The story- I loved, absolutely loved sitting through all 9001 pages of 'notepad text', it absolutely endeared me to the characters and the world, and is the reason the ending tore a hole through my heart in the first place.
@ChessedGamon
@ChessedGamon 6 ай бұрын
I remember playing Nine Sols and realizing partway through it'd be a Foekoe video
@alqash6749
@alqash6749 6 ай бұрын
Foekoe try not to make videos on indie games challenge (impossible)
@scorpioftw
@scorpioftw 5 ай бұрын
To be honest I love the dialogs. They are great, and although there are many, they are always short. Thats the neat part, lore condensed in short conversations spaced throughout the game
@zennvirus7980
@zennvirus7980 6 ай бұрын
Story wise, Hollow Knight is, as its Dark Souls progenitors, more of an archaeological adventure as you go full forensic trying to unravel what F-ed up Hallownest. To that end, its fragmented narrative and passive story telling fit perfectly. It's part of the thrill you get when you discover a new piece of the puzzle. Your job in Hallownest is to unearth its forgotten mysteries, often prying them from your defeated foes. And even Hornet you get to know her more from what you piece together out of patchwork records that mention her than what she herself is willing to say. Nine Sols' story, on the other hand, happens at the climax of the tragedy of its "Hallownest" (New Kunlun), when everything is about to break down. So, considering that the place is still 'alive' it stands to reason that you need more explanations, especially with the involved parties (Kuafu, Shuan Shuan, Shennong, Chiyou, Abacus, etc.). Plus, unlike the mostly zombiefied or plain comatose figures of Hallownest, the Sols are still very much alive and kicking, punching, throwing knives, meat puppets and whatnot at you. They are (allegedly) Functional individuals in a functional society, machine, city, whatever. So your job is figuring out the current problem and avoid (if possible) going full Radiance. And for that, you need more story exposition. Both are good, stellar games in their own right and style. Just my thoughts.
@interguy5846
@interguy5846 6 ай бұрын
About the tweening animations used in the game - they are used exclusively for a class of enemies that are basically zombies, which makes me think it was a deliberate choice to make them seem creepy and offputting.
@beefyboy1574
@beefyboy1574 21 күн бұрын
I think the dog / lion enemies and dragonworms are also partially tweened or puppet animated, but most of that is in the attack animations.
@Irimu_
@Irimu_ 6 ай бұрын
I honestly really like the character interactions. They help me get attached to these characters which by the end of the game I really am. The story to me never felt too much at all. The first time I played stuff like Dark Souls and Hollow Knight I legitimately lost interest and stopped playing because of the passive story telling. If you ask me, properly presenting a story is a good thing. The amazing story and message paired with the parry gameplay is why Nine Sols to me is probably my favourite metroidvania.
@TryHardGamerYT
@TryHardGamerYT 6 ай бұрын
I agree. While I believe that environmental storytelling is more tasteful than lines of dialogue, I think it works well in this case due to the story being more focused on the characters, rather than the world building. I think it would've been great if there was more use of environmental storytelling when explaining the world, but honestly, I didn't really mind reading the lore.
@ravenpac
@ravenpac 6 ай бұрын
Yes, agreed. The chat in this game made me very attached to characters, I loved every interaction with Shuanshuan and I even cried at the end of this game, which almost never happens in metroidvanias to me (except in Ori, I cried a lot in both Oris)
@voikalternos
@voikalternos 6 ай бұрын
AGREED I played through the ending 10 times now, cried every single time
@jurtheorc8117
@jurtheorc8117 6 ай бұрын
Strongly agreed. At first I wasn't really interested in Nine Sols, but the writing, in-world events and discussions and the character interactions made me much more interested. The stuff with finding gifts for Shuanshuan and poisons for Shennong, and from what i believe Kuafu having something new to say after every story milestone, just grabbed and kept my interest. There's other (fairly recent) games where that, having established characters and interesting interactions and development with one another, was exactly a big part of why i retained interested in a game's world. Those being - Clash: Artifacts of Chaos - Cookie Cutter - No Straight Roads - Soulstice Can recommend all of them, though be warned that Cookie Cutter has a very irreverent and at times weird, provocative tone, but like Nine Sols it's beautifully 2D hand-animated, with a colorful, interesting sci-fi/cyberpunk story with a striking style and world all its own (if not *quite* as complex, but still really lovingly made) - Soulstice is a game like Darksiders and DMC and isn't the simplest in the genre to get into for reasons of gameplay mechanics, camera and pacing. But the story of the two sister protagonists is very interesting and the sisters themselves elevate one another. Plus, every level has the snarky merchant who can supply optional conversations, that give more knowledge of the world or insight to the characters' line of thinking. (plus, gameplay in the moments does *feel* good and there's a lot of options you get throughout the game).- - No Straight Roads is simply short and sweet. Small rock band striking back against a full ban on rock music in a city that is powered by music, but all bosses (who play different genres of music) have more to them than simply being "part of the evil corporation". Including the CEO herself. Both main characters have good writing and chemistry. - And Clash: Artifacts of Chaos is a prequel to the Zeno Clash games, which is already a unique and bizarre, almost prehistoric world full of freaks and monsters, and is about a carrot-looking martial artist hermit trying to find a safe place for a recently orphaned boy. And throughout their journeys, both of them have more to tell and see than they first expected. Alongside Nine Sols, I hope that all these games get more known and appreciated. There's undeniable love for the worlds and characters in them and that shouldn't just be brushed aside
@akayalunarit997
@akayalunarit997 6 ай бұрын
Yeah definatly! Also it makes so much more sense because you get parts of stories through other perspektives which is so helpful to fully understand the story and the motives of characters. Honestly, I think its the right amount of dialogue and, thats my opinion, it also makes it pretty realistic. The characters never interacted with another just because of simply "explaining lore". They all had their own reasons, thoughts etc. all the time which makes this all feel pretty alive
@karreira7575
@karreira7575 6 ай бұрын
Bro really pointed to Portugal and called it Taiwan 💀💀
@ximirux2408
@ximirux2408 6 ай бұрын
he like me for real, no geographic cultural knowledge
@TJ-hg6op
@TJ-hg6op 6 ай бұрын
Same thing, both are in north america.
@The_whales
@The_whales 6 ай бұрын
I played too much hearts of iron and can tell you, that would have been true if Japan justified a war goal of Portugal
@karreira7575
@karreira7575 6 ай бұрын
@@The_whales what??
@chaoz7370
@chaoz7370 6 ай бұрын
Coming from someone who just (almost) 100%'d the game (I wasnt heartless enough to break the pot or kill one of the Shanghai's), I don't think the narrative is a bad thing, I loved it. Granted idk how others feel besides Foekoe's, and I could be biased due to my love for good stories and characters, but I really really loved the character interactions, the fact you can just collect a bunch of gifts for Shuanshuan and strengthen your bond with him. I repeatedly checked back into the Pavilion to see if there was any other character event I missed. If you got the true ending, you'll know this game WANTS you to care about these characters. I don't think metroidvanias should be defined or restricted by needing very little story. Yes, it can be very cool to piece together a story by just exploring the world (which is still done well here I'd say), but a good narrative doesnt and shouldnt subtract from the game. Besides, a lot of the talking is optional, you can simply just not give shuanshuan gifts or converse with other characters. Its still "forced" on you sometimes with the bosses, yes, but I prefer that over them being blank slates with no personality or story. Tldr, I consider this game to be absolutely peak, because both the gameplay and the story is great Edit: browsed the comments a little, seems many agree the narrative is pretty good, so hmmm
@Mordak1989
@Mordak1989 6 ай бұрын
I very much enjoyed the story and how it was presented. Not every Metroidvania needs to tell their story via item descriptions and not every one needs to tell it via cutscenes and dialog.
@BlueSR
@BlueSR 6 ай бұрын
nine sols looks so amazing! :O love to see indies thriving hard this year
@bepsi8700
@bepsi8700 5 ай бұрын
Dude the story in Nine Sols is like half of it's appeal, I absolutely hate soulslike games and metroidvanias but the story was so compelling and the gameplay was fun enough for me to push through to the end. One of the greatest blends of gameplay and story I've played in a long time.
@zinAab79
@zinAab79 Ай бұрын
Is so refreshing to have a metroidvania with actual story, I mean real present protagonist story instead of just vague clues about the world lore, this game is great I hope more games take this approach in future.
@apstrac2winner
@apstrac2winner 6 ай бұрын
By the way traditional Chinese is what Taiwanese use. Simplified Chinese is used by China. While it's true that there's some negative reviews in simplified Chinese, it seems like most of them were actually complaining about difficulty. So really it's just people who couldn't git gud.
@ellaslidell576
@ellaslidell576 2 ай бұрын
wow so a youtuber made a big deal about nothing lmao
@roojackaroo8517
@roojackaroo8517 Ай бұрын
If you take away the story you take half the charm away, the relationship with Shuanshuan ,Abacus,Shennong and even Chiyo the battlelord are really fun. Thats not even mentioning the absolutely banger plot which is a puzzle you have to put together which tells an incredibly dark and thoughtful story.
@nanman_chief
@nanman_chief 6 ай бұрын
1:29 As an educated Taiwanese person, I can confirm that this is correct. For the following reasons: We also refer to our motherland as Ilha Formosa, And the places the arrows are pointing to on the map, everyone knows what Ilha Formosa means (which means "beautiful island" in English). The people who live in the places the arrows are pointing to are Taiwanese people. Therefore, It's Taiwan. I have proven this, perfect syllogism, 100% true. QED
@altagos9265
@altagos9265 29 күн бұрын
I personally prefer the large amount of dialogue. Its in short segments and its presented in a way that lets me focus on it far far more easily then a bland lore tablet.
@WilbertWilbert-m6d
@WilbertWilbert-m6d Ай бұрын
Correction 2:49 That is not traditional Chinese but instead simplified. People in china actually don't write traditional Chinese. Taiwanese do.
@Silksong_in_2077
@Silksong_in_2077 6 ай бұрын
Tbh i like the dialogue and i think it is needed in my first playthrough of the game cus it is where red candles truly shine on (the story). It made me understand the lore of the game. But after all, it becomes a hassle since u know everything about it after all. I don’t except it to have like few dialogue on each npc since it is actually a story game (but in a MV way) imo. And i welcomed it since the story is made by red candles. I know they can cook up a good story (which they did imo). I am not an empathetic person but the game really hooked me up the emotion. I feel a bit sad when hearing the credit song (same name as the game). So yea, play rainworld
@irai_nesanOfThamizhOrigin
@irai_nesanOfThamizhOrigin 6 ай бұрын
The moment I saw the MC's character design and animation I was immediately hooked and very much interested. Thanks Foekoe for bringing attention to this hidden gem!
@sonuwu6769
@sonuwu6769 5 ай бұрын
personally the thing that i most love from this game is the amount of characters chatting , i like reading vn and i promised if u like it too ur gonna love this game.
@Laikafan02
@Laikafan02 6 ай бұрын
0:05 LAIKA AGED THROUGH BLOOD SPOTTED WOOHOO
@Kanalzakrytdenegnet
@Kanalzakrytdenegnet 6 ай бұрын
WE ARE KICKING BIRD N*ZIZM OUT OF THE WASTELANDS WITH THIS ONE🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Caketurtle7
@Caketurtle7 6 ай бұрын
Like the people who go made kubo and paranorman and coralline
@Laikafan02
@Laikafan02 6 ай бұрын
@@Caketurtle7 no not them, the game was made by a studio called brainwash gang, I’d recommend checking out their other work.
@crewcrew5947
@crewcrew5947 6 ай бұрын
Lady ethereal was 🔥STUNNING🔥 ngl
@Caketurtle7
@Caketurtle7 6 ай бұрын
Oh hell nah
@crewcrew5947
@crewcrew5947 6 ай бұрын
​Oh hell yeah@@Caketurtle7
@TV_MURDER2
@TV_MURDER2 6 ай бұрын
YOU ARE SIMP ????
@folly1149
@folly1149 6 ай бұрын
mommy?
@ganter5447
@ganter5447 6 ай бұрын
MOMMY
@Dot_Jake
@Dot_Jake 6 ай бұрын
I've been scrolling through your gamelist on steam to find some games to play and found this one. Then, the same day like 4 hours later this video got posted. What a coincidence.
@symbiotesoda1148
@symbiotesoda1148 6 ай бұрын
So THAT’S where this character came from. I saw… art… of them and was wondering who it was.
@thecluckster3908
@thecluckster3908 6 ай бұрын
Fine I’ll buy the dang game already, I’ve had 15 review channels all recommend it to me
@lime4991
@lime4991 6 ай бұрын
YEAH
@Doggo505
@Doggo505 6 ай бұрын
Money well spent. You'll love it
@thecluckster3908
@thecluckster3908 6 ай бұрын
@@Doggo505 we’ll see about that Doggo505…
@JustAFishBeingAFish
@JustAFishBeingAFish 3 ай бұрын
Did you like it?
@thecluckster3908
@thecluckster3908 3 ай бұрын
@@JustAFishBeingAFish I have it in my library but didn’t play it for a month, then started playing another game, and then school started. Haven’t touched any game but the game is at the top of my backlog when I get back into it.
@Chriscrosser
@Chriscrosser 6 ай бұрын
I'm mainland Chinese and I absolutely LOVED this game. It's easily the top 5 of all games I've played. I do want to point out that in 2:38, almost all negative reviews are *not* political, they are mainly about the difficulty & level designs (which honestly I love both). The very few that are political are also mocked heavily both by people from Taiwan and China. The positive Chinese comments outnumber negative ones by a lot. I feel compelled to mention this since I feel average Chinese players do not deserve to be dragged into political sh*t all the time.
@Dong-E_Lin
@Dong-E_Lin 6 ай бұрын
Nice
@stonks8849
@stonks8849 6 ай бұрын
Bullshit tho. Most simplfied chinese nagtive reviews are somewhat about game itself at the surface but really utterly nonsense or nitpicking at best. They're just disguising their hate as logical reviews.
@Chriscrosser
@Chriscrosser 6 ай бұрын
​@@stonks8849 So you are gonna focus only on the negative Chinese reviews over the majority of positive ones? Also who's your position to judge how "nonsense" people's opinions are, maybe you can go over all other languages and see how "reasonable" their negative reviews are?
@達聞東
@達聞東 5 ай бұрын
對,你說的沒錯 在還願下面的評論確實很多粉紅,不過注意到做這款遊戲的是和還願同間工作室的赤燭 的人應該不多
@lazerblade703
@lazerblade703 6 ай бұрын
DISCLAIMER: I haven't beaten the game, so I kinda skimmed this video to avoid spoilers. 99 percent of why this game interested me was the art style, since Hollow Knight, I've been a sucker for great and unique game art and this game is no exception. I definitely agree with the gameplay point, as someone who played and loved Sekiro, I was immediately intrigued when I heard it was a primary inspiration for the gameplay and the demo two years ago already convinced me. As for your point on the dialogue, I am not sure where I fall in. For example I didn't really appreciate the story and lore of hollow knight until I watched mossbag and VattiVydia for Dark Souls. To some, that might be bad thing, since a game alone should arguably let you understand whats happening. I think overall I appreciate the effort to make the narrative more active rather than the passive style of HK and DS. But at the same time I do like to figure it out by myself a little bit. Weirdly enough, Sekiro which you didn't play, strikes this balance perfectly for me as you have a voiced protagonist. I personally don't find the dialogue to be exhausting, and I actually kinda like Yi's pragmatic personality, and how it develops to a warmer side with Shuanshuan.
@jurtheorc8117
@jurtheorc8117 6 ай бұрын
May I give some other recommendations for games with really great art styles? I'll give you a freebie beforehand with Clash: Artifacts of Chaos. Game's 3D and has crosshatching shaders, plus the general design of that world's inhabitants gets quite wild. One of the most notable ones for me is a three-legged dark teal-colored moose man with a three-eyed face that looks like it was compressed sideways into his torso.
@phibby8966
@phibby8966 6 ай бұрын
i agree on the dialogue point!! i think he kind of grossly overexaggerated how much dialogue there is, and most of it is really good. after beating the game yi has become one of my favorite protagonists ever. and to that end there is still a lot "figuring out the story", its told in a very nonlinear fashion and if you're like me you still will wind up putting a lot of the pieces together on your own through uncovering the database logs hidden across the world
@RhysThomas-d6n
@RhysThomas-d6n 5 ай бұрын
I love the dialogue and pavilion events! Shuanshuan is my baby
@gaius8740
@gaius8740 6 ай бұрын
I’ve only played like half of the game but holy god, it feels so nice to play this game. Its visuals and gameplay alone make me want to die and go to heaven. There were some minor criticisms I had with the game however, there were some parts where you could get stun-locked and just watch Yi get slapped up while you’re sitting there like a lemon unable to do anything. But I kind of just AVOID THAT AREA AT ALL COSTS when I play so I wouldn’t meet the same fate. BUT PLEASE, PLAY THIS GAME. I WANT TO SEE IT THRIVE AND PROSPER LIKE A BIG TREE. Thank you and have a great day!
@aether3589
@aether3589 2 ай бұрын
The story part is done well my dude, I really like how they tell a story this way maybe I like it cuz im a reader so it ain't gon complain on this one
@thexdfacedgamer2306
@thexdfacedgamer2306 6 ай бұрын
*_"Who's_** **_Nine and why is he a sols?"_* 💀 💀 💀
@SpoopyChicken
@SpoopyChicken 6 ай бұрын
Who is Yi and why does yi have an ass haircut? 💀💀💀
@sharpfang
@sharpfang 6 ай бұрын
Why does he sol?
@f99yes
@f99yes 6 ай бұрын
translate: They call themselves the Sun People. The Sun People have ten leaders, and the leaders call themselves sol. In the true ending, nine sols die. (Sun People Linguistics/ solarian Linguistic ) 他們自稱太陽人,太陽人有十個領導,領導自稱是太陽,真結局中九個太陽死亡。
@lomek4559
@lomek4559 6 ай бұрын
Better call sols
@鄭小白-n4p
@鄭小白-n4p 6 ай бұрын
This is Chinese mythology, there have 9 sun and it's to hot ,so a human called "yi" shoot the suns and keep one
@trollman_2345
@trollman_2345 6 ай бұрын
Having played the game myself, the story is not overwhelming, it's just... there. Usually i spent stretches of over an hour (minus 3 minute snarking contests between yi and the area boss) before anyone talked to me again, and even then it was, like, 10/20 minutes at most of dialogue? Most of it not even being story related, just... character interactions i enjoyed watching. Idk HOW you managed to get overwhelmed lol.
@axyndey
@axyndey 6 ай бұрын
am I weird for feeling a pretty major wave of hesitation to keep playing this game? I'm literally only an hour in (stuck on the spear boss) and I'm starting to think its not for me Hollow knight gave you a bench right next to most bosses, Nine Sols makes you go through like, 5 enemies before reaching. Now I usually enjoy practicing bosses, but messing up ONCE gets me full-combo'd by this boss, as if there's no i-frames when getting hit. I cant necessarily practice the boss when I die within 2 seconds. Am I missing something?
@trollman_2345
@trollman_2345 6 ай бұрын
@@axyndey just keep trying to parry. Ignore the dash unless you ABSOLUTELY have to
@trollman_2345
@trollman_2345 6 ай бұрын
@@axyndey also you just get better shit as the Game gets harder. The moment you get the hang of the parries, every Boss should be 2 to 3 tries, tops.
@azureth9544
@azureth9544 6 ай бұрын
If that's the spear guy on the bridge, with the lasers behind you, yoy are very underpowered at that point. I feel like the idea was to get the boss to charge into the lasers and kill himself. Fighting him fair is way more harder than anything up to or after that point, not counting some of the harder bosses.
@trollman_2345
@trollman_2345 6 ай бұрын
@@azureth9544 yesn't. The lasers help a little, but the real reason that fucker is there is to teach you how to deal with spear guys- which, in my experience is STICK TO THEM LIKE A TICK ON CRACK. The biggest problem they have IS their multihits combined with their range, leaving them pretty safe. If you stick close enough, you can both make their long range advantage useless AND sometimes sneak behind the second and third hit of their moves.
@AshnSilvercorp
@AshnSilvercorp 6 ай бұрын
You should try Moonring. The dev just said "yea, the game is free." And it's making me relive mystery dungeon again quite well.
@peahaitchgee1564
@peahaitchgee1564 6 ай бұрын
I don’t really understand your narrative criticism, besides the first hour the game doesn’t really bombard you with dialogue
@Lacheln-YO
@Lacheln-YO 6 ай бұрын
Played Nice Sols, wondered why exactly I love the game, realized that the Solarians are canonically are mutates cats I knew exactly why (But no really, this game is absolutely fabulous and do what Foekoe is saying NOW)
@Alphinell
@Alphinell 6 ай бұрын
transformation kink bros are gonna love to hear this
@Lacheln-YO
@Lacheln-YO 6 ай бұрын
@@Alphinell I hate the internet... I CAN'T LOVE CATS WITHOUT SMTH LIKE THIS COMING HERE GRRR
@jurtheorc8117
@jurtheorc8117 6 ай бұрын
@@Lacheln-YO Stay strong and don't give those people any more attention than needed. Easier said than done, but it's worth it to be able to appreciate things on their own, without the fear of others' perversions affecting our perception of those things.
@EpicMustacheGurlOvO
@EpicMustacheGurlOvO 3 ай бұрын
whats funny is that in this game's universe, the cats we know irl are actually mutant solarians, which was implied near the end of the game when we can uncover secret containment units with cats inside and logs where eigong details how she was was experimenting on solarian fetuses, and eventually created the modern house cat lmao
@yuma_sensei
@yuma_sensei Ай бұрын
That’s Portugal my boy 1:28
@SpoopyChicken
@SpoopyChicken 6 ай бұрын
As a steam review once said... "Forsake Silksong, Embrace Nine Sols."
@laurentoutan5133
@laurentoutan5133 6 ай бұрын
Nope... Nine sols is not bad, but it's miles away from Hollow Knight in terms of exploration, lvl/world design, gameplay (and, tbh, general quality). I don't think Red candle even presented it as a "metroivania" (which is a type of game putting emphasis on exploration).
@SpoopyChicken
@SpoopyChicken 6 ай бұрын
@@laurentoutan5133 1. It's a joke 2. I know, I'm a hollow knight fan with a little over 100 hours in the game. 3. I also happen to be a Sekiro fan with about 170 hours in Sekiro. So it's less about which is better, but more about how Nine Sols better caters to me in both theming and gameplay :)
@Hatdudz
@Hatdudz 8 күн бұрын
I played nine sols, and right now I’m trying to get all achievements in my second play through of the game. My biggest gripe about the game is the lack of I-FRAME. Like seriously you could get hit by an enemy or a boss only to take some heavy knock back and get absolutely screwed by another attack while mid air or laying on the ground. AND THEN having to die because you got hit by another attack from a boss. Making it not even your fault. Yes i know this from experience. And maybe i do have a skill issue. Overall….i still like it 👍
@KyleRenny
@KyleRenny 5 ай бұрын
2:16 China said “Take it down, or we take you down”
@rubub8455
@rubub8455 6 ай бұрын
6:17 *Game has action* "It's 2D Dark Souls!!"
@_siegfried9056
@_siegfried9056 6 ай бұрын
dude i saw 1 minute of this bought nine sols, got both endings, forgot this video, saw foekoe made a video on nine sols, and then remembered this was the video that made me get it. 10/10
@fluffy_tail4365
@fluffy_tail4365 6 ай бұрын
I'm playing this right now and it's fire. Enjoying also piecing together the narrative but I am that kind of gamer
@ferwolf8076
@ferwolf8076 6 ай бұрын
hey, i just wonna say, the fact that Laika was mentioned right at the beginning makes me really happy. Its a game that i personally love and i feel like missed out on all the attention it so clearly deserved. So, thanks for that. Happy to know that im not seemingly the only person on earth who has played it, because no one i know has even heard of it
@aidanhanson8749
@aidanhanson8749 6 ай бұрын
Your take on the story telling is so buns dude it was all so interesting and i felt super super close to the mc and all the characters
@Verdane_Wru
@Verdane_Wru 6 ай бұрын
I was 15 when silksong was first announced... Im turning 21 this year.
@JustAFishBeingAFish
@JustAFishBeingAFish 3 ай бұрын
Im 15, I will probably be 21 by the time it releases.
@phrei9
@phrei9 6 ай бұрын
I don’t mind dialogues in this game honestly, maybe because I also like visual novels lol But seriously, maybe I like lore of this game even more than gameplay :^) (not saying gameplay is mid here or something like that, it’s also great :> )
@jurtheorc8117
@jurtheorc8117 6 ай бұрын
The lore and world is genuinely quite fascinating. No spoilers. For beautifully animated 2D metroidvanias with an unusual sci-fi/cyberpunk angle, i can also recommend Cookie Cutter. Very colorful, though be warned that there's some strange and even quite provocative elements to it. But also a lot of love. Lead dev made the game as a kind of culmination of the media that formed him and his tastes throughout the years, and there's *buttloads* of easter eggs to discover. It's a finished game as is but the lead dev is working hard to supply even more locations, characters and story beats and more in the future.
@Shroomroom-o5d
@Shroomroom-o5d 6 ай бұрын
finally you talked about this hidden gem of a game, btw the full game is out now guys go play it!
@g0ldenratioed6969
@g0ldenratioed6969 6 ай бұрын
The devs need to pay my therapist bill, 10/10 game
@Chad-bc9vi
@Chad-bc9vi 2 ай бұрын
Just finished Nine Sols, holy it's amazing, the story is insane, the combat is insane, I love it
@kukukachu
@kukukachu 6 ай бұрын
you're right, it's not sitting next to Hollow Knight, it's sitting above it. 4:29 It's like people don't know what story driven games are lol 5:43 I completely disagree. You're playing a, STORY DRIVEN metroidvania...you seem to forget that. This isn't dark souls, this isn't Hollow Knight and I'd appreciate if people stop trying to make all games like those games. Just because something is inspired by something, doesn't make it that thing. 7:08 BAM! it's just a Hollow Knight Charm system, which was taken from the PAPER MARIO badge system... This is your channel and your opinion, but I definitely think people need to understand the game their playing instead of trying to change it to their mold....The whole point of the story being confusing is that you're picking up the pieces and putting them together while progressing through the game. If you didn't put those pieces together at the end, that sounds like a you problem lol.
@personexisting123
@personexisting123 6 ай бұрын
I agree with all of this except nine sols being “above” HK. I feel like Hollow Knights sheer amount of content makes it really hard to be beat out by anything imo
@jurtheorc8117
@jurtheorc8117 6 ай бұрын
I find myself in agreement with this comment, though not with Nine Sols alone. I've seen it happen with genuinely awesome and interesting games like Clash: Artifacts of Chaos, where a guy played a game for about fifteen to twenty minutes, kept wondering "What is going on" "why does he look like that?", skipped cutscenes and then he and his chat said that things were missing or not well explained, that it felt more like a disjointed group project with no central vision. Granted, he did say he was interested in playing more and the "checking out fifteen/twenty minutes of a game" was the format he works with to explore more games, so the skipping of cutscenes was to experience the most of the gameplay. (then at least be aware how much that format truncates the full understanding of a game. Especially ones that are not easily defined.) But even outside of that: the point stands that worlds in games do not owe the players a full explanation from the get-go. The world does not owe us an understanding of how it functions. Things happen, have happened, people develop their own understanding of how the world works while developing themselves, and we can never fully understand how someone else understands the world. Circumstance, likewise, does not owe us explanation. But we can learn, seek out, think and learn and discuss and disagree to form our understanding of a bigger picture. And to do that, we simply need to use our eyes, ears, and the grey mass between them.
@kukukachu
@kukukachu 6 ай бұрын
@@personexisting123 Well at least we found a lot of common ground :D See for me, it's because of that story element, that intimacy in the game that makes Nine Sols a cut above it, that and the combat is just SO DAMN SATISFYING. I have gone from Crowsworn, to Nine Sols to Hollow Knight and I can tell you that Nine Sols has definitely given Hollow Knight a run for its money. I mean, there were just so many interesting things in Nine Sols, the dreamscape with lady ethereal, the torture part with Jiequan, the ability to poison him before the fight. The super parry, freakin Eigong man. It was SO good. I've spent 500 hours in Hollow Knight and I don't deny how good Hollow Knight is, however Nine Sols, was able to touch me in a place that Hollow Knight couldn't, and that was within the story and the interactions of the characters. I am curious though, what is it about Hollow Knight that makes it better than Nine Sols for you? Where does Nine Sols fail to surpass Hollow Knight?
@kukukachu
@kukukachu 6 ай бұрын
@@jurtheorc8117 a very well articulated comment. Personally, for me, I think it has to do with all normies overrunning the gaming market...You either hear them praising a game that's more like a movie, or you have people that just want to play the game...both sides don't seem to understand the potential that interactive stories give. I don't read books, watch movies or series, I play games to get my stories because I like the interactivity. I like games that have good story, that incorporates it into the very game. While the game play is definitely important, the story is more so, at least upon first playthrough. The game play is just icing on the cake. It is not until I decide to play the game again (if I decide to do that) where the game play becomes more important to me. I also liked that I was able to do everything in this game without having to look anything at all. I despise it when a game puts something in it where you can't figure it out within the game itself. Like seriously, there were some pretty cool things in Hollow Knight, but some of those things, you wouldn't have known about, like the dung defender for instance. That was such a cheap move that Team Cherry did... I don't really like dark souls if I'm being honest, I just like the ideas and mechanics behind those games, like corpse runs and asthetics, and that's it. The way the story is told, is really not my thing and I HATE seeing it tried to be pushed on other games.
@greeneyestoons6014
@greeneyestoons6014 Ай бұрын
Idk why but every time someone asks for a game like hollow knight I always say rain world even though they are completely different genres I can’t wait to play this on my ps5
@Xanatrix
@Xanatrix 6 ай бұрын
Ultimately, I can see why you think there's a problem with the story presentation, but you have to remember that this game is described as Taopunk. It's essentially a xianxia novel in game form, and story is IMPORTANT AS FUCK for xianxia. So I ultimately heavily disagree with all your points about the side stories and character connections being "unnecessary."
@dietpebsi
@dietpebsi 6 ай бұрын
I heard indie platformer made by the developer of detention and I took out my credit card instantly
@whatthewhatthe9117
@whatthewhatthe9117 6 ай бұрын
Nine Sols is like if Sekiro was about Chinese space furries and it is PERFECT
@jurtheorc8117
@jurtheorc8117 6 ай бұрын
You mean Anthros?
@ProtoAlpha
@ProtoAlpha 5 ай бұрын
​@@jurtheorc8117 Anthro feels better, "furry" is offputting
@karmaneversgone
@karmaneversgone Ай бұрын
7:50 lie detected *LOUD BUZZER PLAYS*
@evelyn-v.
@evelyn-v. 6 ай бұрын
3:55 honey youre aussie now, you go to woolies like the rest of us
@dateris
@dateris 3 ай бұрын
So, uh, a small thing to point out: Silksong's demo showcases dialogue cutscenes with Lace. The complaint you have about Nine Sols having too much dialogue will most likely carry over to Silksong. Personally, I thought that Nine Sols had just the right amount of dialogue: Enough to make me invested in the plot, setting, and characters, but not too much to distract from the gameplay.
@happyjay9168
@happyjay9168 6 ай бұрын
1:29 I just love how you are trying to fool idiots with this one lmao
@OarlsCat
@OarlsCat 5 ай бұрын
Tip: Options > Gameplay > Hold the button to Speed ​​up dialogue
@shring727
@shring727 6 ай бұрын
omg thank god someone is mentioning this game it's so good i loved it to bits
@xystoblivion6529
@xystoblivion6529 3 ай бұрын
Don’t really share your opinion about the narrative. That was the best part about the game imo and I was able to piece it together fairly easily just by reading and digesting every bit of dialogue and story collectibles in the game. I understand that people might not have the patience for all that, especially in today’s world, but all the pieces of the puzzle are there and in plain view.
@CreativeUsername1997
@CreativeUsername1997 6 ай бұрын
Good point Counterpoint I’m broke 👍
@justsomeplantcells-
@justsomeplantcells- 6 ай бұрын
Good point On the contray, Piracy
@vladi3862
@vladi3862 6 ай бұрын
@@justsomeplantcells-nah you don't pirate indie games
@bro7496
@bro7496 6 ай бұрын
Keyword "you" ^
@omgman5745
@omgman5745 6 ай бұрын
​@@vladi3862Yeah instead pretend to be a homeless person and harass random people (preferably autistic ones) to get money from them. That's much more morally correct.
@Agent_Cube
@Agent_Cube 6 ай бұрын
​@@vladi3862 if you dont have the money, you do. Not like you would buy them anyways
@TheHappyDays-k5j
@TheHappyDays-k5j Ай бұрын
perfection but some parts can feel so annoying. For example the prison is really slow and when saving the village if u die u have to make ur way all the way back. It ruins it quite a lot for me tbh
@Gharon
@Gharon 6 ай бұрын
Just finished it after getting my ass kicked by the true final boss for about 4 hours. What a great game, the story was way better (and darker) than i expected. It really deserves a spot right next to Hollow Knight, it's not "quite" on the same level for me but still very very close.
@humblehaet
@humblehaet 2 ай бұрын
Plot twist: nine sols is Silksong with RTX on
@virgomaquiavelico58
@virgomaquiavelico58 6 ай бұрын
I personally like the dialogues
@grahamgilmore42
@grahamgilmore42 5 ай бұрын
Completely disagree about the dialogue. There’s just enough to flesh out the lore and the characters. At no point did I feel overwhelmed with the amount of information that was coming my way. In fact, it was a main driver to keep me playing. I also find it refreshing to play a game like this where you’re not a mute husk that’s told to go from a to b. And as much dialogue as there is, I really felt like I was playing the game more than talking to characters. Definitely not a visual novel’s worth of dialogue.
@maxzhou
@maxzhou 6 ай бұрын
Ok so just clear some things up: the negative comments from around 2:43 - 2:52 mostly only criticize the content of the game, mostly complain of the game being too hard, no i-frames, etc. There was only one comment I saw which was purely review bombing but most of them were genuinely just stating things they thought were unpolished in the game currently. Please do some translation on these comments before sharing them, I get that it's public stereotype but still, show some love to Chinese gamers
@karthiktadepalli7560
@karthiktadepalli7560 6 ай бұрын
Can I just say, absolutely killed title. You could not have come up with a better title for this video to get the attention of the right audience. Love nine sols and glad for the exposure :)
@Looona_fan
@Looona_fan 6 ай бұрын
This game was suddenly recommended to me like crazy. I don't even play Hollowknight.
@derple8524
@derple8524 6 ай бұрын
lol, it be like that
@akimbo4637
@akimbo4637 6 ай бұрын
Foekoe will tell you to play a game and then spoil more than half of the bosses in the game within a tight 8 and a half minute window
@FionaAnimatesBagels
@FionaAnimatesBagels 5 ай бұрын
As the comments have pointed out. 1:29 that is portugal. For those of you still wondering where Taiwan is, but are unwilling to google it, find China. See how there are two red islands off the southeast coast? The one furthest east is Taiwan, slightly higher up than the other red island. For your trivia/general gist about Taiwan, they're currently in a frustrating feud with China, and have been for a while. China is insistent that Taiwan is a part of China, while Taiwan is arguing that they are very much their own thing. It's like winning a civil war by saying "nuh uh". For those of you wondering why Taiwan is struggling so much to succeed when us PROUD REVOLUTIONARY AMERICANS did just fine succeeding from England... look at Taiwan on that map. itty bitty lil' island. Now look at China. Worlds largest population per country and collector of fine nukes. A civil war would end in obliteration. I've seen a couple Taiwanese people in this comment section, if I did a bad job explaining the gist, or was straight up wrong about anything, let me know and I'll edit it. 👍
@達聞東
@達聞東 5 ай бұрын
You're doing well😊😊 If some people still can't understand the issues between China and Taiwan, you can understand them as the relationship between South Korea and North Korea. After the end of World War II, the Japanese colonists withdrew from Taiwan, and the Chinese Kuomintang and the Chinese Communist Party were engaged in a civil war. Later, the Chinese Kuomintang retreated to Taiwan, and the two regimes have been in confrontation to this day. In theory, the civil war was not over yet. But as Taiwan becomes a democratic society, the people have had enough of all this, and even though our passports say "Republic of China", more and more Taiwanese do not consider themselves Chinese.
@happyjay9168
@happyjay9168 6 ай бұрын
3:30 I’m genuinely looking for a story similar to Rain World with a deceased civilisation with a story the player needs to put together hope it’s something like that
@xyrongonzalez3833
@xyrongonzalez3833 5 ай бұрын
Update: apparently valve decided to do a purge and all of the spammed Chinese reviews are gone. not just some, ALL OF THEM!
@ihavespoken9871
@ihavespoken9871 4 ай бұрын
W Valve moment
@auralxtc
@auralxtc 6 ай бұрын
I played Nine Sols for about 90m today for the first time and I can confirm that it is well worth it. It isn’t (yet) quite at the same level as my first HK play through, but it is really fun and definitely scratches that HK/Silksong itch.
@childofthecity6181
@childofthecity6181 6 ай бұрын
Local bug forced to read
@seeforkat
@seeforkat 6 ай бұрын
2:46 um actually those are in simplified chinese, which is a variation of chinese used by mainland chinese (not taiwanese, they use traditional) people
@shadowreaperbg7759
@shadowreaperbg7759 6 ай бұрын
We should positive review bomb nine sols
@aahijustalice8112
@aahijustalice8112 6 ай бұрын
I approve of this title go play nine sols RIGHT NOW !!
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